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Agree sick.. however lets remember you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. So its not correct to condem him until he has been proven guilty. due to the nature of the allegation its very easy to let personal feelings come into it, i so agree anyone who can do that should have key thrown away for good at best but deserve worse than being locked up. but we have to make sure he has genuinely done it first dont you think.
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"Agree sick.. however lets remember you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. So its not correct to condem him until he has been proven guilty. due to the nature of the allegation its very easy to let personal feelings come into it, i so agree anyone who can do that should have key thrown away for good at best but deserve worse than being locked up. but we have to make sure he has genuinely done it first dont you think.
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As been said innocent till proven guilty but 19 charges is a lot. I do hope he is innocent but if he is not he is going away for a very long time. Shame the saying rot in prison don't mean that these days. Colour tv x box and all the other stuff I've heard they get. It's not a punishment these days |
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over a year ago
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Is this not old news.
I know he was arrested last year and allegations were investigated but proven to be a pile of shite.
You would think after that he would be squeaky clean.
If after his scare last year, he has gone out and committed offences then I have no sympathy and he deserves all he gets.
Something tells me though the allegations last year may just have been the tip of the iceberg.
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"As been said innocent till proven guilty but 19 charges is a lot. I do hope he is innocent but if he is not he is going away for a very long time. Shame the saying rot in prison don't mean that these days. Colour tv x box and all the other stuff I've heard they get. It's not a punishment these days "
I heard they get free Swedish messages too. And la-z-boy recliner chairs. The good ones too with the fridge in the arm for all the beer they get. I heard that Bono from the popular beat combo The U2 personally goes round and serves them dinner. All on my bloody taxes!
Kill them all, mince them up and feed them to the poor instead of horsemeat is what I say. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That should have been Swedish massages, not messages. But they probably get them too, from hot Swedish ladies that are allowed in to service them. Scum!"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Like other posters have said, innocent until proven guilty. The media appear to have found all these celebs guilty before they have had chance to stand trial.
If he and any of the other celebs (and any other person) are found guilty then throw the book at them. I also believe that punishment for any sex crime is far to lenient is this country for those found guilty.
But until someone is found guilty we should presume them innocent as to do otherwise risks any chance of a fair trial |
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"Like other posters have said, innocent until proven guilty. The media appear to have found all these celebs guilty before they have had chance to stand trial.
If he and any of the other celebs (and any other person) are found guilty then throw the book at them. I also believe that punishment for any sex crime is far to lenient is this country for those found guilty.
But until someone is found guilty we should presume them innocent as to do otherwise risks any chance of a fair trial"
I totally agree with you there ... People shouldn't be so quick to jump the gun. Innocent till proven guilty !! |
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Blimey....so many judgemental people on here!
I'm not saying he's guilty or innocent, hopefully that will be proven in court, but crikey, lets hope none of the 'hang him now' brigade ever get wrongfully accused of something! |
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"Blimey....so many judgemental people on here!
I'm not saying he's guilty or innocent, hopefully that will be proven in court, but crikey, lets hope none of the 'hang him now' brigade ever get wrongfully accused of something!"
exactly and wrongly accused seems to sadly happen alot.
Also as someone said about after last year if he has commited more thriw the book at him.
From what i understood this was just a lawyer going back over what they previously had and had found him clear off.. so who knows but lets not judge until proven.
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"I heard they get free Swedish messages too. And la-z-boy recliner chairs. The good ones too with the fridge in the arm for all the beer they get. I heard that Bono from the popular beat combo The U2 personally goes round and serves them dinner. All on my bloody taxes!
Kill them all, mince them up and feed them to the poor instead of horsemeat is what I say. "
OMG,,,, that’s horrible….. no-one deserves the punishment of being forced to spend time with "Bono" for company…
Honestly, I’d rather face the electric chair,,,, I really would,,, ,    |
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"As been said innocent till proven guilty but 19 charges is a lot. I do hope he is innocent but if he is not he is going away for a very long time. Shame the saying rot in prison don't mean that these days. Colour tv x box and all the other stuff I've heard they get. It's not a punishment these days
I heard they get free Swedish messages too. And la-z-boy recliner chairs. The good ones too with the fridge in the arm for all the beer they get. I heard that Bono from the popular beat combo The U2 personally goes round and serves them dinner. All on my bloody taxes!
Kill them all, mince them up and feed them to the poor instead of horsemeat is what I say. "
sensible policies for a happier Britain |
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The problem with the So called great British press is they are allowed to name people at the allegation stage which does ruin peoples lives if subsequently found not guilty, mud always sticks unfortunately.
I think its wrong that people should be named until found guilty, but when and if they are then they deserve all they get. |
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"Agree sick.. however lets remember you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. So its not correct to condem him until he has been proven guilty. due to the nature of the allegation its very easy to let personal feelings come into it, i so agree anyone who can do that should have key thrown away for good at best but deserve worse than being locked up. but we have to make sure he has genuinely done it first dont you think.
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I agree.
Put the ropes away for a bit guys... |
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"Is this not old news.
I know he was arrested last year and allegations were investigated but proven to be a pile of shite.
You would think after that he would be squeaky clean.
If after his scare last year, he has gone out and committed offences then I have no sympathy and he deserves all he gets.
Something tells me though the allegations last year may just have been the tip of the iceberg.
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The original allegations were made in 2011 and dropped as the Police didn't have enough evidence to proceed. Apparantly, new evidence has been found, which led to his arrest and charging for those original allegations of 2011.
Whether Guilty or Innocent, his career at Corry is over, probably for good, but definately for the short term though it'll take I guess about 6 weeks to write him out of the scripts as I'm sure Corry is filmed about 6 weeks prior to screening. |
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"For sex offences ... 19 of em including 1 child rape! Now that's something I didn't expect to be seeing.
source, BBC website  "
From what I read, the original allegations were made last year and the CPS decided NOT to proceed. Now another officer has decided there is enough evidence to charge him. If he is guilty then throw the book at him but bearing in mind the allegations about Jimmy Saville, might this be a case of the CPS being over cautious?
Just being devil's advocate.. |
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over a year ago
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Innocent until proven guilty.
The media don't worry about FACTS or EVIDENCE .... they just want to report something sensational, to sell papers.
Gawd help any of us, if we ever become famous! |
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"Innocent to proven guilty,would you let him babysit your kids or grandkids.
I think we know the answer."
a lot of folk would not allow a TV or someone whom they knew to be on this type of site either... |
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"Innocent to proven guilty,would you let him babysit your kids or grandkids.
I think we know the answer."
I wouldn't let anyone I didn't know babysit any child related to me however it would be shaky grounds on which to convict someone of tape and the basis of British law us still innocent until proven guilty. |
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By *quirrelMan
over a year ago
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Granada TV who make corrie is in my part of the country, I know a few people who work there and its been commented on that he is very seen as very "stand off-ish" he shows poor social skills, this has meant he doesnt mix with or socialise with other cast members or some members of his own family.
His odd behaviour with cast and the crew has meant his character has been sidelined in the past so it may be easier to "kill him off" some rumours of bizarre behaviour in his private life do not mean he is guilty of anything illegal but it is suspicious behaviour for someone in the public eye and draws parrallels with michael jacksons behaviour. |
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So someone who is a bit stand offish and doesn't socialise with their work colleagues is likely to be a child rapist?
That's a big chunk of the population in the frame then....
And the similarity to Michael Jackson?
I do love a bit of amateur psychology |
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His odd behaviour with cast and the crew has meant his character has been sidelined in the past so it may be easier to "kill him off" some rumours of bizarre behaviour in his private life do not mean he is guilty of anything illegal but it is suspicious behaviour for someone in the public eye and draws parrallels with michael jacksons behaviour."
And your post draws uncomfortable parallels with the publics behaviour concerning Christopher Jeffries in the case of Jo Yeates. |
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"As been said innocent till proven guilty but 19 charges is a lot. I do hope he is innocent but if he is not he is going away for a very long time. Shame the saying rot in prison don't mean that these days. Colour tv x box and all the other stuff I've heard they get. It's not a punishment these days "
Like you would know lmao.
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over a year ago
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"He was always giving Chesney funny looks. "
Eeewwww lol
Yeah love some posters. If I ever have to go to court I will insist on having non fab people on the jury. I'd be hung drawn and quartered before I even got there with some of you lot |
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Has he been pronounced guilty already?
There seems to a fare few who are a bit premature at times. He may be guilty, he may not but I think that's down to the jury. |
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"Just on news he's been charged with 5 rapes
news says 1 of the charges is rape, 19 sexual charges in total and it seems to be one girl."
Yeah but a little exaggeration never did any harm did it?.....
It woudn't be a Fab forum without something being twisted
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Just to cover all angles and keep everyone happy..
If he is innocent I hope he gets off and puts it behind him
If he is guilty then I hope he gets a good stretch inside...and all that goes with it. |
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Whether Guilty or Innocent, his career at Corry is over, probably for good, but definately for the short term though it'll take I guess about 6 weeks to write him out of the scripts as I'm sure Corry is filmed about 6 weeks prior to screening."
that's very interesting |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"As been said innocent till proven guilty but 19 charges is a lot. I do hope he is innocent but if he is not he is going away for a very long time. Shame the saying rot in prison don't mean that these days. Colour tv x box and all the other stuff I've heard they get. It's not a punishment these days
I heard they get free Swedish messages too. And la-z-boy recliner chairs. The good ones too with the fridge in the arm for all the beer they get. I heard that Bono from the popular beat combo The U2 personally goes round and serves them dinner. All on my bloody taxes!
Kill them all, mince them up and feed them to the poor instead of horsemeat is what I say. "
I do so love irony. |
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I think folk need to be wary and how things are worded as this site like anyother sites inc facebook and twitter have falken foul of the law i refer to lord mcalpine and false accusations.
Let due process take its course.
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"I think folk need to be wary and how things are worded as this site like anyother sites inc facebook and twitter have falken foul of the law i refer to lord mcalpine and false accusations.
Let due process take its course.
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Your right there...I am all for free speech and a bit of piss taking when it comes to jokes..and jokes will always happen when someone is in the spot light...you cant say 'of course so an so is guilty, its obvious I know someone who knows someone who.."etc etc
Thats bordering on slanderous...a few little words make all the difference 'if they are guilty' |
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"Is this not old news.
I know he was arrested last year and allegations were investigated but proven to be a pile of shite.
You would think after that he would be squeaky clean.
If after his scare last year, he has gone out and committed offences then I have no sympathy and he deserves all he gets.
Something tells me though the allegations last year may just have been the tip of the iceberg.
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The allegations, and they are only allegations at the moment were based on what he was alleged to have done before..not based on new stuff by the looks of it..so last years allegations are just that..no Iceberg at the moment..
From what I have read the CPS looked at the case against him again and gave the police the nod to arrest him..
Its easy to crack jokes etc...but, joking aside, I hope he is innocent, lets wait and see. |
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Maybe he can share a cell with Tyrone..... Oops I'm forgetting thst's not real!
An earlier poster mentioned that after this he will probably never work on Corrie again. Work?? I'm off to check the OED.  |
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"Cleared on all 12 charges....
Thats great news, never believed he did it."
Just read of his acquittal on the Guardian site. I bet he dropped one. Still, let's see how he's treated by the public now he's been acquitted. His reputation has still been smashed all over the place. |
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"Should she be punished for all this?"
In my opinion yes, if he was cleared without any doubt what so-ever then she should now be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, both criminal and civil. She tried to destroy an innocent man's reputation... |
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"Should she be punished for all this?
In my opinion yes, if he was cleared without any doubt what so-ever then she should now be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, both criminal and civil. She tried to destroy an innocent man's reputation..."
Wouldn't it be just great if all those who "aided and abetted" her in doing so were prosecuted also. |
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"Should she be punished for all this?"
think that's a tricky one..
CPS clearly thought they had a case to put in front of a jury etc and due process in this case went one way..
would not want any woman who had been sexually assaulted or worse to be deterred from coming forward lest she be prosecuted later on..
the numbers of convictions are too low in any case..
for the small number of those who make false accusations I think the Police will or may prosecute for wasting their time etc.. |
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"Should she be punished for all this?
In my opinion yes, if he was cleared without any doubt what so-ever then she should now be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, both criminal and civil. She tried to destroy an innocent man's reputation...
Wouldn't it be just great if all those who "aided and abetted" her in doing so were prosecuted also. "
Compo culture et al |
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The blokes life in ruins no matter what the folk making the false accusations should get the jail term he would have got if guilty.
So easy to accuse folk of historic crimes as hard to disprove.
About time folk accused of sex crimes got same anonimity as alleged rape victims it just is not right.
I hope he gets the support he deserves. |
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"The blokes life in ruins no matter what the folk making the false accusations should get the jail term he would have got if guilty.
So easy to accuse folk of historic crimes as hard to disprove.
About time folk accused of sex crimes got same anonimity as alleged rape victims it just is not right.
I hope he gets the support he deserves."
I've always said they shouldn't reveal the name until there proven guilty. If there innocent it would be easier to carry on with there lives |
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"Should she be punished for all this?
In my opinion yes, if he was cleared without any doubt what so-ever then she should now be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, both criminal and civil. She tried to destroy an innocent man's reputation...
Wouldn't it be just great if all those who "aided and abetted" her in doing so were prosecuted also. "
I totally agree with this
The poor mans life and his famies life will never be the same again
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"Cleared on all 12 charges....
can only assume by the icon your not in agreement..?"
Not at all....the jury have made their decision and as they have sat through the evidence I'm sure their decision was correct.
Perhaps I chose the wrong icon but I didn't think a smiley one was appropriate for this serious matter where nobody has come out with any positive result.
Michael Turner will always be remembered for this..the girl for bringing it to court (whether something happened or not) and the CPS for not obtaining a prosecution.  |
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A local man where I live was accused of sexual assault on two 14 year old girls a few years ago, he protested his innocence, he lost his job, his wife left him, he lost his home everything, when the case came to trial, the girls finally admitted lying, it turned out he had a run in with them, so they thought it would be funny to make up the story, the man was left a ruin and even now he is shunned by the local community, a simple case of shit sticks, what happened to the girls fuck all, they got a caution for wasting police time............maybe it's about time the accused had some kind of privacy until proven guilty |
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on the one hand she should be punished for wasting time, potentially ruining his career and his life
but on the other hand, what if there are rape victims out there that won't come forward because there worried they may themselves get punished if the rapest is cleared |
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"The blokes life in ruins no matter what the folk making the false accusations should get the jail term he would have got if guilty.
So easy to accuse folk of historic crimes as hard to disprove.
About time folk accused of sex crimes got same anonimity as alleged rape victims it just is not right.
I hope he gets the support he deserves.
I've always said they shouldn't reveal the name until there proven guilty. If there innocent it would be easier to carry on with there lives"
on that basis someone like Stuart Hall may have had no case to answer..
once his name was 'out there' other witnesses with the same story etc came forward..
again its a fine balancing act especially when someone is proven innocent..
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"Cleared on all 12 charges....
can only assume by the icon your not in agreement..?
Not at all....the jury have made their decision and as they have sat through the evidence I'm sure their decision was correct.
Perhaps I chose the wrong icon but I didn't think a smiley one was appropriate for this serious matter where nobody has come out with any positive result.
Michael Turner will always be remembered for this..the girl for bringing it to court (whether something happened or not) and the CPS for not obtaining a prosecution. "
*not prosecution....a guilty verdict. |
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I read that there was no actual evidence of the abuse and that the several testimonies/statements from the girl were all different when she was asked by somebody else.
Also, the fact that she didnt scream when he allegedly raped her age six does make you think there's a girl that doesn't seem too bothered about being genuine. If he was guilty, you can only imagine the physical damage he'd have caused (not that you'd want to).
Even if he does get something else in the form of a pardon, he's been exposed as an unfaithful d*unk. The least the justice system could have done for him was offer him counselling so that he doesn't divebomb right alongside his career. |
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The question about his career is very relevant now in that Corry bosses correctly suspended him from his role once he had been charged by the police. They have however left his role open and therefore it would seem correct that having been found not guilty he should be able to resume his career in Corry. Otherwise Corry bosses would almost be carrying out the role of ruining an innocent man. |
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Unfortunately for this innocent man his career is probably over. Mud most definately sticks. As for being a crap husband well his marriage is probably over too. All his own doing but I wonder how many married men on here without their wives permission would like their private lives dragged through the courts in front of family and friends....
This is the second Corrie actor to be found not guilty of sexual assault charges. The actor who played Frank was also found not guilty..
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"I read that there was no actual evidence of the abuse and that the several testimonies/statements from the girl were all different when she was asked by somebody else.
Also, the fact that she didnt scream when he allegedly raped her age six does make you think there's a girl that doesn't seem too bothered about being genuine. If he was guilty, you can only imagine the physical damage he'd have caused (not that you'd want to).
Even if he does get something else in the form of a pardon, he's been exposed as an unfaithful d*unk. The least the justice system could have done for him was offer him counselling so that he doesn't divebomb right alongside his career."
You have no idea!! According to what you read..... Do you believe everything that's printed????
As for questioning her being genuine on the basis of not screaming??? What planet are you on? Have you any idea that most rapes don't have the victim screaming the place down?
No, Probably you don't! |
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"I read that there was no actual evidence of the abuse and that the several testimonies/statements from the girl were all different when she was asked by somebody else.
Also, the fact that she didnt scream when he allegedly raped her age six does make you think there's a girl that doesn't seem too bothered about being genuine. If he was guilty, you can only imagine the physical damage he'd have caused (not that you'd want to).
Even if he does get something else in the form of a pardon, he's been exposed as an unfaithful d*unk. The least the justice system could have done for him was offer him counselling so that he doesn't divebomb right alongside his career.
You have no idea!! According to what you read..... Do you believe everything that's printed????
As for questioning her being genuine on the basis of not screaming??? What planet are you on? Have you any idea that most rapes don't have the victim screaming the place down?
No, Probably you don't!"
Did you read that fact by any chance? |
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"Innocent to proven guilty,would you let him babysit your kids or grandkids.
I think we know the answer.
a lot of folk would not allow a TV or someone whom they knew to be on this type of site either..."
what a ridiculous statement, generally baby sitters are family or friends, and their personal life would have very little to do with it, all my family and friends accept me as a gay man, who sometimes dresses, I am a part of their lives and they trust me.
"a lot of folk" are threatened by swinging, only if they don't know the person involved ( so they wouldn't be asking a stranger to babysit anyway ) |
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"I read that there was no actual evidence of the abuse and that the several testimonies/statements from the girl were all different when she was asked by somebody else.
Also, the fact that she didnt scream when he allegedly raped her age six does make you think there's a girl that doesn't seem too bothered about being genuine. If he was guilty, you can only imagine the physical damage he'd have caused (not that you'd want to).
Even if he does get something else in the form of a pardon, he's been exposed as an unfaithful d*unk. The least the justice system could have done for him was offer him counselling so that he doesn't divebomb right alongside his career.
You have no idea!! According to what you read..... Do you believe everything that's printed????
As for questioning her being genuine on the basis of not screaming??? What planet are you on? Have you any idea that most rapes don't have the victim screaming the place down?
No, Probably you don't!
Did you read that fact by any chance?"
No sadly it's not from reading! |
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"I read that there was no actual evidence of the abuse and that the several testimonies/statements from the girl were all different when she was asked by somebody else.
Also, the fact that she didnt scream when he allegedly raped her age six does make you think there's a girl that doesn't seem too bothered about being genuine. If he was guilty, you can only imagine the physical damage he'd have caused (not that you'd want to).
Even if he does get something else in the form of a pardon, he's been exposed as an unfaithful d*unk. The least the justice system could have done for him was offer him counselling so that he doesn't divebomb right alongside his career.
You have no idea!! According to what you read..... Do you believe everything that's printed????
As for questioning her being genuine on the basis of not screaming??? What planet are you on? Have you any idea that most rapes don't have the victim screaming the place down?
No, Probably you don't!"
No I dont believe everything I read. I read it, compare it to everything else I've read beforehand and make up my own mind. I'm not the judge, where's the harm? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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His fellow actor on corrie Craig Charles was wrongly accused of rape years ago and he bounced back. I hope he does the same and they let him continue on the show,otherwise justice is not completely done. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This is why we have a justice system based on facts not media hysteria.
Verdicts can be wrong, but lunch mob mentality has no place in civilised society. |
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"on the one hand she should be punished for wasting time, potentially ruining his career and his life
but on the other hand, what if there are rape victims out there that won't come forward because there worried they may themselves get punished if the rapest is cleared"
I agree, its a fine balance but there must be a deterrent from this kind of serious accusation if its just a vindictive lie.
Any rapist is vile scum in my opinion and they deserve harsh punishment but those who falsely accuse men of rape/abuse deserve equal punishment because this kind of thing can, and does ruin innocent peoples lives... |
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"on the one hand she should be punished for wasting time, potentially ruining his career and his life
but on the other hand, what if there are rape victims out there that won't come forward because there worried they may themselves get punished if the rapest is cleared
I agree, its a fine balance but there must be a deterrent from this kind of serious accusation if its just a vindictive lie.
Any rapist is vile scum in my opinion and they deserve harsh punishment but those who falsely accuse men of rape/abuse deserve equal punishment because this kind of thing can, and does ruin innocent peoples lives..."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He has been proved innocent in court of all charges .
Not quite. He's been FOUND innocent.
Oooooo  pernickity people
It's a vital distinction."
It would be if i was anally retentive and im not .
he is innocent. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"He has been proved innocent in court of all charges .
Not quite. He's been FOUND innocent.
Oooooo pernickity people
It's a vital distinction.
It would be if i was anally retentive and im not .
he is innocent. "
OK. I know. I was trying not to over complicate things.
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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In cases like these it is always one word against another, so I don't see how you can punish someone for making the allegation unless they admit to making things up.
I do however think that people should not be named unless convicted. |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"Not guilty, good!
I hope the parents or whoever put the girl up to it just sort of disappear!"
Oh, I doubt it!
One of the tawdry Sunday rags, sorry, papers, will serialise the girl's life story!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good job we didn't hang him as some seemed willing to do! "
Exactly.
Its not beyond the realms of possibility that the allegation was based on fact, just the same as its not beyond possibility the defendant is innocent.
But a process has taken place to provide the best possible verdict according to evidence.
People lie. People are mistaken. People believe what they are saying even though its incorrect. People use the system for their own means.
Its the system we have and its progressive. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wonders what happened to innocent until proven guilty
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That's just in the justice system. Everywhere else seems to be about jumping to conclusions, sensationalist media stories to make money, and providing blood for the baying pack animals. |
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"Wonders what happened to innocent until proven guilty
That's just in the justice system. Everywhere else seems to be about jumping to conclusions, sensationalist media stories to make money, and providing blood for the baying pack animals. "
It is the other way around now though. Guilty till proven innocent |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"just said on news hes been cleared I just heard this too. Some politician has been accused now of sexual offences, against other men I think it said
Deputy Speaker Nigel Evans....has resigned "
He's still innocent. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"just in...
any of the lynch mob been back to eat humble pie and think ' fuck, hope I or one of mine never face shit like that'.....
haven't looked but I doubt it "
Well said something needs to be done about the publicity with cases like this. There needs to be an investigation on why the case was brought and personally I would say lie detectors for the accused and possible prosecution or if they refuse remove the anonymity.
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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago
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"Should she be punished for all this?"
Yes. She/they have commited crimes including perverting the course of justice (making false witness statements to the police), perjury (lying under oath in court) and wasting police time.
Of course those who are genuinely victims of rape should not be deterred from reporting this to the police. But by the same token, those who fancy some easy money or choose to use the law to gain a vindictive revenge should be punished and publicly so. |
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"Granada TV who make corrie is in my part of the country, I know a few people who work there and its been commented on that he is very seen as very "stand off-ish" he shows poor social skills, this has meant he doesnt mix with or socialise with other cast members or some members of his own family.
His odd behaviour with cast and the crew has meant his character has been sidelined in the past so it may be easier to "kill him off" some rumours of bizarre behaviour in his private life do not mean he is guilty of anything illegal but it is suspicious behaviour for someone in the public eye and draws parrallels with michael jacksons behaviour."
And your theory is WHAT |
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"just said on news hes been cleared I just heard this too. Some politician has been accused now of sexual offences, against other men I think it said
Deputy Speaker Nigel Evans....has resigned
He's still innocent."
I'm aware of that.
Was stating a fact!! |
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"Innocent to proven guilty,would you let him babysit your kids or grandkids.
I think we know the answer."
For a start how would you know, if they kept the names of these so called perverts quiet until they were proven guilty or until it went to court, what about all these other guy's and I don't mean actors who have been accused for rape only at the last moment the person admits it was liars, but by this time the Damage is done, no matter that the accuser admits they lied, mud Sticks |
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"Innocent to proven guilty,would you let him babysit your kids or grandkids.
I think we know the answer."
For a start how would you know, if they kept the names of these so called perverts quiet until they were proven guilty or until it went to court, what about all these other guy's and I don't mean actors who have been accused for rape only at the last moment the person admits it was liars, but by this time the Damage is done, no matter that the accuser admits they lied, mud Sticks |
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The point above above being 'Found' innocent not 'Proven' may seem pernickety but is spot on when answering the question of how to treat the accuser. The burden of proof is very high in criminal cases and in not being able to prove guilt in doesn't automatically follow that the accuser is lying. I've been a Juror in a very similar case (minus a celebrity) and even though 9 of 12 jurors were convinced of his guilt because 3 couldn't agree that it was beyond reasonable doubt the guy walked free as an 'innocent' man. |
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"I think the majority of these accusations are an attempt to get money. I know some won't but I can't help think why didn't the do something about it sooner? "
And that wins the prize as the most relevant post of the whole thread.
Celebrities are usually pretty well off, so if you can get a criminal conviction against one the civil case for compensation isn't far behind.
The Saville case not only (rightly) opened a huge can of worms as far as genuine abuse was concerned but by freezing his multi million pound estate it opened the floodgates to to any chancer who thought there was a few quid to be gained by concocting a few spurious allegations. Settle out of court anyone?
I wonder how many of the other pending cases have similar motivation. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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this is why rape cases are always hard to convict..
I absolutely see why people think in sexual assualt cases think the person charged should not be named until the verdict.... like someone said, it may bring out other people who have experienced the same thing... as it did in the john leslie/stuart hall cases
and i can see why some would like the accuser named if the accused is found not guilty..... it is a power the judge actually has but is rarely used, and maybe that should be more often...
also the cps have to be looked at as they "thought" it was strong enough to bring to trial... if he had not have been "famous" would they have done it? |
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By *ilandlarryCouple
over a year ago
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"The question about his career is very relevant now in that Corry bosses correctly suspended him from his role once he had been charged by the police. They have however left his role open and therefore it would seem correct that having been found not guilty he should be able to resume his career in Corry. Otherwise Corry bosses would almost be carrying out the role of ruining an innocent man. "
Corrie bosses never suspended him, he took a leave of absence. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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This guy has been found innocent.
Leave him alone now.
The girl has been slated a liar and after his money.
Leave her alone too as a lot of men get away with rape on the grounds of lack of evidence and rape victims should never be too scared to report.
All I'm saying is we don't actually know what happened so we can't judge anyone. |
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"I think the majority of these accusations are an attempt to get money. I know some won't but I can't help think why didn't the do something about it sooner? "
one of Savilles 'victims' was told by her own Mum 'don't be silly' when she tried to tell her..
with that sort of support is it any wonder that some may chosen to stay quiet..
the vast majority of sexual abuse is by persons known to the victim, recent cases eg some elements of the Churches etc have been covered up for decades..
have no doubt that many, many other victims live daily with the horror of what happened to them and they kept schtumm as they knew they wouldn't be believed..
add in the power and wealth of celebrities, the fact that domestic violence was treated lightly and the attitude of the Police and the legal system during the time that some of these offences occurred..
inevitably there will be some who will see anything as a chance for an easy buck, think that the numbers will be a lot lower than some in the media would have us believe.. |
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By * Jay69Man
over a year ago
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I do hope people will bear this thread in mind the next time a public figure is accused of something vile.
The 'Hanging's Too Good For them Brigade' should feel ashamed.
He IS innocent and always has been.
Leave the guy alone. |
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"Used to bump into him all the time at the Trafford centre. He seemed like a nice guy with his kids.
Never followed the case for that reason. "
Although I think he is proven innocent so we should leave him alone, I think your remark is a bit silly.
Rapists and child molesters don't walk round with peedo tattooed or a billboard. They do generally look and act like nice people |
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"Used to bump into him all the time at the Trafford centre. He seemed like a nice guy with his kids.
Never followed the case for that reason.
Although I think he is proven innocent so we should leave him alone, I think your remark is a bit silly.
Rapists and child molesters don't walk round with peedo tattooed or a billboard. They do generally look and act like nice people "
not the ones I know |
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"Used to bump into him all the time at the Trafford centre. He seemed like a nice guy with his kids.
Never followed the case for that reason.
Although I think he is proven innocent so we should leave him alone, I think your remark is a bit silly.
Rapists and child molesters don't walk round with peedo tattooed or a billboard. They do generally look and act like nice people not the ones I know"
Its like telling kids they can get in cars with strangers if they look nice.
Its got nothing to do with how people look. |
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"I do hope people will bear this thread in mind the next time a public figure is accused of something vile.
The 'Hanging's Too Good For them Brigade' should feel ashamed.
He IS innocent and always has been.
Leave the guy alone."
sadly there will always e those who want others hung, drawn and quartered often without knowing any of the evidence..
human nature I suspect.. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"......They do generally look and act like nice people not the ones I know
Its like telling kids they can get in cars with strangers if they look nice.
Its got nothing to do with how people look."
Yet 'how people look' seems a major factor in decision making on Fab. |
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"Used to bump into him all the time at the Trafford centre. He seemed like a nice guy with his kids.
Never followed the case for that reason.
Although I think he is proven innocent so we should leave him alone, I think your remark is a bit silly.
Rapists and child molesters don't walk round with peedo tattooed or a billboard. They do generally look and act like nice people not the ones I know
Its like telling kids they can get in cars with strangers if they look nice.
Its got nothing to do with how people look."
you might say that. I would say trust comes with experience and until then, don't trust anyone
Don't get in the car |
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"......They do generally look and act like nice people not the ones I know
Its like telling kids they can get in cars with strangers if they look nice.
Its got nothing to do with how people look.
Yet 'how people look' seems a major factor in decision making on Fab."
Meeting people for sex requires attraction so obviously!!?? |
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"Used to bump into him all the time at the Trafford centre. He seemed like a nice guy with his kids.
Never followed the case for that reason.
Although I think he is proven innocent so we should leave him alone, I think your remark is a bit silly.
Rapists and child molesters don't walk round with peedo tattooed or a billboard. They do generally look and act like nice people not the ones I know
Its like telling kids they can get in cars with strangers if they look nice.
Its got nothing to do with how people look.you might say that. I would say trust comes with experience and until then, don't trust anyone
Don't get in the car"
And I'm experienced enough to not trust people just because they look nice.
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By *_MariusMan
over a year ago
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"I do hope people will bear this thread in mind the next time a public figure is accused of something vile.
The 'Hanging's Too Good For them Brigade' should feel ashamed.
He IS innocent and always has been.
Leave the guy alone.
sadly there will always e those who want others hung, drawn and quartered often without knowing any of the evidence..
human nature I suspect.."
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Also, the fact that she didnt scream when he allegedly raped her age six does make you think there's a girl that doesn't seem too bothered about being genuine.
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Forgetting about the case itself, I just had to pick up on the above.
What a crass statement. So all abused children should scream? - Fear/ blackmail/ emotional abuse wouldn't keep anyone quiet, of course....... |
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The accused should have the same anonymity rights as the accuser. How many lives have been ruined by false rape claims. I had a friend who was falsely accused and it cost him everything his wife his job and ultimately his life |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"......They do generally look and act like nice people not the ones I know
Its like telling kids they can get in cars with strangers if they look nice.
Its got nothing to do with how people look.
Yet 'how people look' seems a major factor in decision making on Fab.
Meeting people for sex requires attraction so obviously!!??"
Is it obvious? Some people aren't quite so shallow. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"The accused should have the same anonymity rights as the accuser. How many lives have been ruined by false rape claims. ..........."
That was the case in the past.
The 1976 Labour government introduced anonymity for defendants - only for the measure to be repealed 12 years later under the Tories.
Probably the same Tories who'd introduce hanging without trial.
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"......They do generally look and act like nice people not the ones I know
Its like telling kids they can get in cars with strangers if they look nice.
Its got nothing to do with how people look.
Yet 'how people look' seems a major factor in decision making on Fab.
Meeting people for sex requires attraction so obviously!!??
Is it obvious? Some people aren't quite so shallow."
So you would have sex with a lass that you had no attraction to? Now THATS shallow! |
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"......They do generally look and act like nice people not the ones I know
Its like telling kids they can get in cars with strangers if they look nice.
Its got nothing to do with how people look.
Yet 'how people look' seems a major factor in decision making on Fab.
Meeting people for sex requires attraction so obviously!!??
Is it obvious? Some people aren't quite so shallow.
So you would have sex with a lass that you had no attraction to? Now THATS shallow!"
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"..........
Meeting people for sex requires attraction so obviously!!??
Is it obvious? Some people aren't quite so shallow.
So you would have sex with a lass that you had no attraction to? Now THATS shallow!"
If she asked me nicely, yes. |
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I truly believe the accusation of being a rapist or paedo is thrown out there with too much ease. I having been a person its been thrown at. Its not easy to discuss this in here and I know I will get some greif from somewhere but here it is. I have been my godsons father figure pretty much since he was born. To me he is family and I think of him as a son. I take him on holiday every year and spend lots of time with him as he helps me out alot when my backs bad. I often take him for days out as a thank you. On one occasion I asked if he would like to bring the girl who he'd been dating for a while. She was 13 he was 14 at this point. Although her mother new me as did everyone else involved all of a sudden it was "somethings not right here. Why would he want to take a 13yr old girl to the lakes for a day" and I was branded a paedo over night for trying to be a nice person and do something nice for my godson and his girlfriend. Its all ok now and everyone Who jumped on the "he must be a paedo" bandwagon has changed their tune. She's even been away on holiday with us. But I still hate that thats what they thought of me, even for a short time. I truly feel for those people who have been victims of paedophilia and rape but I really feel too for those who have been falsely accused of it too. |
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"......They do generally look and act like nice people not the ones I know
Its like telling kids they can get in cars with strangers if they look nice.
Its got nothing to do with how people look.
Yet 'how people look' seems a major factor in decision making on Fab.
Meeting people for sex requires attraction so obviously!!??
Is it obvious? Some people aren't quite so shallow.
So you would have sex with a lass that you had no attraction to? Now THATS shallow!"
Yawn. |
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I don't think your a peedo for taking a 13 and 14 year old on holiday, just a nice guy.
Although I don't think a 13 and 14 year old couple should be encouraged to be going away together. Its a difficult age to know wrong from right |
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"......They do generally look and act like nice people not the ones I know
Its like telling kids they can get in cars with strangers if they look nice.
Its got nothing to do with how people look.
Yet 'how people look' seems a major factor in decision making on Fab.
Meeting people for sex requires attraction so obviously!!??
Is it obvious? Some people aren't quite so shallow.
So you would have sex with a lass that you had no attraction to? Now THATS shallow!
Yawn. "
Yeah, yawn indeed. Oh, sent your mail that you sent me to admin! . The least you could have done was let me reply to it before you blocked me though! |
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"I don't think your a peedo for taking a 13 and 14 year old on holiday, just a nice guy.
Although I don't think a 13 and 14 year old couple should be encouraged to be going away together. Its a difficult age to know wrong from right "
Seeing that they never leave my site long enough to do anything that's not a problem. They sleep in separate beds and I make sure they behave. |
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"......They do generally look and act like nice people not the ones I know
Its like telling kids they can get in cars with strangers if they look nice.
Its got nothing to do with how people look.
Yet 'how people look' seems a major factor in decision making on Fab.
Meeting people for sex requires attraction so obviously!!??
Is it obvious? Some people aren't quite so shallow.
So you would have sex with a lass that you had no attraction to? Now THATS shallow!
Yawn.
Yeah, yawn indeed. Oh, sent your mail that you sent me to admin! . The least you could have done was let me reply to it before you blocked me though! "
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