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By *romleyM41Man
over a year ago
orpington / surrounding |
Yep !!! One of my best friends lives just outside and in just inside, none of his vehicles are compliant and he has no plans to change that as they are perfectly good, working vehicles for the countryside. So he has told me that when we meet it either has to be outside of ulez rather than ever coming here for a bbq etc etc.
Hope Khan spends the rest of his life walking barefoot and stepping on Lego and upturned plugs with every step |
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over a year ago
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"Yep !!! One of my best friends lives just outside and in just inside, none of his vehicles are compliant and he has no plans to change that as they are perfectly good, working vehicles for the countryside. So he has told me that when we meet it either has to be outside of ulez rather than ever coming here for a bbq etc etc.
Hope Khan spends the rest of his life walking barefoot and stepping on Lego and upturned plugs with every step "
That’s what I thought would happen. I live outside but find I’m not looking for profiles in London anymore, despite it only being a 30 minute drive away.
I think it’s just a revenue builder, I don’t think they really give a fuck about the environment |
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By *avinaTVTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Yep !!! One of my best friends lives just outside and in just inside, none of his vehicles are compliant and he has no plans to change that as they are perfectly good, working vehicles for the countryside. So he has told me that when we meet it either has to be outside of ulez rather than ever coming here for a bbq etc etc.
Hope Khan spends the rest of his life walking barefoot and stepping on Lego and upturned plugs with every step "
Yep, bugger people breathing cleaner air! Useless hippies! |
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By *romleyM41Man
over a year ago
orpington / surrounding |
"Yep !!! One of my best friends lives just outside and in just inside, none of his vehicles are compliant and he has no plans to change that as they are perfectly good, working vehicles for the countryside. So he has told me that when we meet it either has to be outside of ulez rather than ever coming here for a bbq etc etc.
Hope Khan spends the rest of his life walking barefoot and stepping on Lego and upturned plugs with every step
That’s what I thought would happen. I live outside but find I’m not looking for profiles in London anymore, despite it only being a 30 minute drive away.
I think it’s just a revenue builder, I don’t think they really give a fuck about the environment "
it has absolutely nothing to do with cleaner air at all, khan built up a massive debt with TFL during the lockdowns, bailing them out and trying to keep them afloat, and this is how he is recouping it. If it was about cleaner air there wouldn’t be any money involved at all, it would be a blanket ban on cars that don’t meet the criteria. You can’t say “if your car isn’t compliant you can’t drive in this zone, unless you pay us , then you can drive whatever the fuck you want and where ever the fuck you want” and not expect people to realise it’s purely about money.
The sooner he is voted out and someone else comes in the better.
I read somewhere that out if 22 cameras in the borough of Bromley, 19 are out of action or missing. So there is hope |
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"Yep !!! One of my best friends lives just outside and in just inside, none of his vehicles are compliant and he has no plans to change that as they are perfectly good, working vehicles for the countryside. So he has told me that when we meet it either has to be outside of ulez rather than ever coming here for a bbq etc etc.
Hope Khan spends the rest of his life walking barefoot and stepping on Lego and upturned plugs with every step
That’s what I thought would happen. I live outside but find I’m not looking for profiles in London anymore, despite it only being a 30 minute drive away.
I think it’s just a revenue builder, I don’t think they really give a fuck about the environment it has absolutely nothing to do with cleaner air at all, khan built up a massive debt with TFL during the lockdowns, bailing them out and trying to keep them afloat, and this is how he is recouping it. If it was about cleaner air there wouldn’t be any money involved at all, it would be a blanket ban on cars that don’t meet the criteria. You can’t say “if your car isn’t compliant you can’t drive in this zone, unless you pay us , then you can drive whatever the fuck you want and where ever the fuck you want” and not expect people to realise it’s purely about money.
The sooner he is voted out and someone else comes in the better.
I read somewhere that out if 22 cameras in the borough of Bromley, 19 are out of action or missing. So there is hope"
I drive a diesel which is so low on emissions that I don’t have to pay road tax, but I do have to pay ULEZ. I saw a listing on a car site for a petrol Lamborghini and it’s ULEZ compliant despite my car doing 4-6 times more MPG. I can’t work it out |
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Bullshit tax. Birmingham has CAZ and there are loads not paying.
Pay the charge and pollute all you want..not really about clean air.
It has caused more traffic in other areas as people are avoiding the zones and driving more miles to avoid the zones so how is that clean air?
A v12 new car can avoid the charge but my 1.5 diesel with no road tax cant, how does that make sense?
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"Bullshit tax. Birmingham has CAZ and there are loads not paying.
Pay the charge and pollute all you want..not really about clean air.
It has caused more traffic in other areas as people are avoiding the zones and driving more miles to avoid the zones so how is that clean air?
A v12 new car can avoid the charge but my 1.5 diesel with no road tax cant, how does that make sense?
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To paraphrase Khan and his cronies
"It's er, because. The....er.... nitrogen...co2 thing oooooh (points thumb) global warming is bad and, erm.....I have a Porsche....erm......ha ha your poor. Buy an electric car......yeah. do that" |
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"Yep !!! One of my best friends lives just outside and in just inside, none of his vehicles are compliant and he has no plans to change that as they are perfectly good, working vehicles for the countryside. So he has told me that when we meet it either has to be outside of ulez rather than ever coming here for a bbq etc etc.
Hope Khan spends the rest of his life walking barefoot and stepping on Lego and upturned plugs with every step
That’s what I thought would happen. I live outside but find I’m not looking for profiles in London anymore, despite it only being a 30 minute drive away.
I think it’s just a revenue builder, I don’t think they really give a fuck about the environment it has absolutely nothing to do with cleaner air at all, khan built up a massive debt with TFL during the lockdowns, bailing them out and trying to keep them afloat, and this is how he is recouping it. If it was about cleaner air there wouldn’t be any money involved at all, it would be a blanket ban on cars that don’t meet the criteria. You can’t say “if your car isn’t compliant you can’t drive in this zone, unless you pay us , then you can drive whatever the fuck you want and where ever the fuck you want” and not expect people to realise it’s purely about money.
The sooner he is voted out and someone else comes in the better.
I read somewhere that out if 22 cameras in the borough of Bromley, 19 are out of action or missing. So there is hope
I drive a diesel which is so low on emissions that I don’t have to pay road tax, but I do have to pay ULEZ. I saw a listing on a car site for a petrol Lamborghini and it’s ULEZ compliant despite my car doing 4-6 times more MPG. I can’t work it out"
There goes ny plans of riding a two stroke 500 then, most of my riding is in london. |
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By *romleyM41Man
over a year ago
orpington / surrounding |
"Bullshit tax. Birmingham has CAZ and there are loads not paying.
Pay the charge and pollute all you want..not really about clean air.
It has caused more traffic in other areas as people are avoiding the zones and driving more miles to avoid the zones so how is that clean air?
A v12 new car can avoid the charge but my 1.5 diesel with no road tax cant, how does that make sense?
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exactly. I had a 1.5 diesel and got over 600 miles out of a tank of fuel, and it wasn’t compliant, another one of my best friends has a 5 litre range river svr but his is compliant, what a load of bollocks. All it shows is it is purely about money and nothing else. |
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By *romleyM41Man
over a year ago
orpington / surrounding |
This subject puts a been in my bonnet clearly, but to show the impact his is already having, yesterday I drove through a local highstreet that is normally a nightmare to park in because it is always quite busy, yesterday was the quietest I think I’ve ever seen it, parking spaces galore. This is going to put so many small business owners out of business because people will choose to shop outside the ULEZ zone (completely understandably) and like someone said about Birmingham, it’s going to push the traffic elsewhere. I personally am only 3 miles inside it and instead of going into Bromley or supermarkets locally I’m driving down to Sevenoaks and shopping there in the hood that this highlights the damage it’s doing to local businesses and they can reverse the decision before too many people loose their livelihoods. |
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By *olf and RedCouple
over a year ago
Nr Cardiff or at Chams Darlaston |
We were in London a couple of weeks ago when it was just coming into force. So I was listening to a radio show about it. Strange how the Mayor’s office gave £800,000 to Imperial College and it’s the outcome of their research which was used as one of the main reasonings to bring in the ULEZ. |
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"Chuck the Khan out in May 2024 and restore all roads how they use to be before the cycle lanes and LTNs
Do you think Khans successor will get rid of Ulez ?"
Well if you vote for Brian Cox, he said he will get rid of all of the ULEZ. Susan Hall will only reduce the expansion zone to where it was before |
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By *romleyM41Man
over a year ago
orpington / surrounding |
"Chuck the Khan out in May 2024 and restore all roads how they use to be before the cycle lanes and LTNs
Do you think Khans successor will get rid of Ulez ?"
I can’t remember her name but one of the candidates running next year has said the first thing she will do is scrap it, it’s one of her big selling points on her manifesto so if she gets in let’s fucking hope so !
How true this is I don’t know but i read on the news a while back that the forecast for revenue generated by ULEZ is that it will drop over a couple of years as people change cars etc so Khan has already asked his boffins to draw up a new plan for pay per mile to be introduced to charge EVERYONE who drives within the zones in order to make up the difference and increase revenue again… google it and see for your self. |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"We were in London a couple of weeks ago when it was just coming into force. So I was listening to a radio show about it. Strange how the Mayor’s office gave £800,000 to Imperial College and it’s the outcome of their research which was used as one of the main reasonings to bring in the ULEZ. "
Another "dodgy" dossier,Alistair Campbell school of lying. |
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By *orny-DJMan
over a year ago
Leigh-on-Sea |
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I think it’s just a revenue builder, I don’t think they really give a fuck about the environment "
Completely agree. If Khan really cared about air quality he could simply ban non-compliant vehicles - and the studies have shown it's going to have a negligable impact anyway.
Basically, the ULEZ scheme boils down to it being ok to pollute the air if you pay for the priviledge of doing so |
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"Chuck the Khan out in May 2024 and restore all roads how they use to be before the cycle lanes and LTNs
Do you think Khans successor will get rid of Ulez ?
I can’t remember her name but one of the candidates running next year has said the first thing she will do is scrap it, it’s one of her big selling points on her manifesto so if she gets in let’s fucking hope so !
How true this is I don’t know but i read on the news a while back that the forecast for revenue generated by ULEZ is that it will drop over a couple of years as people change cars etc so Khan has already asked his boffins to draw up a new plan for pay per mile to be introduced to charge EVERYONE who drives within the zones in order to make up the difference and increase revenue again… google it and see for your self. "
Well if khan gets the boot, it will be interesting to see if the new mayor does as they say or does a complete u turn!
Pay per mile has been debated as the future of taxing cars for over 25 years. The idea is nothing new. It was spoke about as a tiered system where you’d pay more in peak times to use certain roads. This was Tony Blair’s government.
I have an idea. How about we set the tax rate for all cars the same, say £180 per year.
You know, line it was prior to 1995 ish.
We’re going to be forced into electric cars anyway by how many will be available for sale new over the next 7 years as the current government is looking to reduce the percent of ice cars allowed to be sold each year until 2030 when they’ll be banned from sale altogether.
It’s not just cars. See the 3rd reading of the energy bill that is going through parliament as we speak. It mentions criminalising homeowners who can’t get their houses to meet energy performance and emission standards. Custodial sentences!
If you have a log burner or a gas fire and boiler, they’re coming for those next.
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By *orny-DJMan
over a year ago
Leigh-on-Sea |
"Chuck the Khan out in May 2024 and restore all roads how they use to be before the cycle lanes and LTNs
Do you think Khans successor will get rid of Ulez ?
I can’t remember her name but one of the candidates running next year has said the first thing she will do is scrap it, it’s one of her big selling points on her manifesto so if she gets in let’s fucking hope so !
How true this is I don’t know but i read on the news a while back that the forecast for revenue generated by ULEZ is that it will drop over a couple of years as people change cars etc so Khan has already asked his boffins to draw up a new plan for pay per mile to be introduced to charge EVERYONE who drives within the zones in order to make up the difference and increase revenue again… google it and see for your self.
Well if khan gets the boot, it will be interesting to see if the new mayor does as they say or does a complete u turn!
Pay per mile has been debated as the future of taxing cars for over 25 years. The idea is nothing new. It was spoke about as a tiered system where you’d pay more in peak times to use certain roads. This was Tony Blair’s government.
I have an idea. How about we set the tax rate for all cars the same, say £180 per year.
You know, line it was prior to 1995 ish.
We’re going to be forced into electric cars anyway by how many will be available for sale new over the next 7 years as the current government is looking to reduce the percent of ice cars allowed to be sold each year until 2030 when they’ll be banned from sale altogether.
It’s not just cars. See the 3rd reading of the energy bill that is going through parliament as we speak. It mentions criminalising homeowners who can’t get their houses to meet energy performance and emission standards. Custodial sentences!
If you have a log burner or a gas fire and boiler, they’re coming for those next.
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We pretty much have had pay per mile for decades in the form of Fuel Duty. The more fuel you use, the more of it you pay |
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The blade runners are genuine heroes in my opinion. Taking a stand against them all. We're already in a cost of living crisis and they choose to go ahead an smack those things on top of everything else! |
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"Surely most visitors to London catch the train anyway? Never mind ULEZ, where are you parking??"
But train prices have risen to levels that it’s cheaper to drive in. £25 for me to get into London for a 35 minute journey. I’ve travelled all over Europe, in Bucharest, Romania it was pretty much £1 to get anywhere by bus, underground or tram. Paris is relatively cheap with prepaid travel tickets, even Milan is cheap to travel around. I’ve had meets in London and the person you have visiting you has to give up a paid parking pass to stop outside their home or in their street. I think this must have a huge impact on people inside London wanting to attract, not just fab meets, but family and friends visiting. Do people inside these zones feel isolated from what everyone outside is able to do? |
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You need a petition to remove the start /stop exception on new cars as all cars that have cold engines produce more pollution.
The start/stop tech is producing more pollution just in traffic with a cold engine.
This will put there tax band back to where it should be as they are producing the same pollution depending on engine size as they drive around.
Ive seen in bath where council parking has now used the ulez to charge more to users who are not excempt. |
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By *orny-DJMan
over a year ago
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"You need a petition to remove the start /stop exception on new cars as all cars that have cold engines produce more pollution.
The start/stop tech is producing more pollution just in traffic with a cold engine.
This will put there tax band back to where it should be as they are producing the same pollution depending on engine size as they drive around.
Ive seen in bath where council parking has now used the ulez to charge more to users who are not excempt."
On cars fitted with Start/Stop, it doesn't kick in until engine reaches a certain temperature. |
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"Parasite Khan should concentrate his efforts to clean air in Pakistan one of the worse world contributors to filthy pollution and his home country - one way ticket I will gladly fund ! "
Criticise his politics all you want, but he's British. You know that. |
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I drive a diesel which is so low on emissions that I don’t have to pay road tax, but I do have to pay ULEZ. I saw a listing on a car site for a petrol Lamborghini and it’s ULEZ compliant despite my car doing 4-6 times more MPG. I can’t work it out"
Conversely, I drive a 13yo Audi Q7 3.0 TD, I pay nearly £650 road tax for it, but it’s ulez compliant
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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago
Peterborough |
"Parasite Khan should concentrate his efforts to clean air in Pakistan one of the worse world contributors to filthy pollution and his home country - one way ticket I will gladly fund ! "
I'd send him to China, loads of pollution for him to tax. |
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I drive a diesel which is so low on emissions that I don’t have to pay road tax, but I do have to pay ULEZ. I saw a listing on a car site for a petrol Lamborghini and it’s ULEZ compliant despite my car doing 4-6 times more MPG. I can’t work it out
Conversely, I drive a 13yo Audi Q7 3.0 TD, I pay nearly £650 road tax for it, but it’s ulez compliant
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you wont like my comment
you should pay more for rd tax than i as you produce way more polution than i do
the stop start tech is just a con just to get a lower tax bracket
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If that's a problem anyone want a cheap ulez compliment vehicle then? I'm getting rid of my old Renault kangoo wheelchair adapted vehicle, that just like me, could do with some tlc, which I bought years ago for getting my disabled mum around. Ideal for dogging!!! Not that I ever did that with my dear old mum. Whether it would entitle you to put, "can accommodate, can travel " is another matter. |
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"Parasite Khan should concentrate his efforts to clean air in Pakistan one of the worse world contributors to filthy pollution and his home country - one way ticket I will gladly fund !
Criticise his politics all you want, but he's British. You know that."
My point is that his half whit scheme is not anything to do with pollution ; he is using any scheming way possible to fund his inadequacies and gross incompetence as a leader over the last 8 years .
Whereas his heritage is from a county that blindly contributes towards serious ozone depletion.
One could use words like hypocritical |
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"Parasite Khan should concentrate his efforts to clean air in Pakistan one of the worse world contributors to filthy pollution and his home country - one way ticket I will gladly fund !
Criticise his politics all you want, but he's British. You know that.
My point is that his half whit scheme is not anything to do with pollution ; he is using any scheming way possible to fund his inadequacies and gross incompetence as a leader over the last 8 years .
Whereas his heritage is from a county that blindly contributes towards serious ozone depletion.
One could use words like hypocritical "
Ok, sure. I don't see how where his parents are from makes any difference at all, so no idea why you'd bring it up. Well I do know, but well done for talking about his heritage this time rather than his "home country".
You can make the point about disliking ULEZ without any mention of his heritage - there's no hypocrisy on his part as he's not responsible in any way for what happens in Pakistan. |
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Yes I'm a single parent and live right on the border, half a mile away from the edge. My only family are in Dorset, they used to visit. Now they don't. They don't invite me there bc they're quite precious about their property and don't want a toddler running around it  so to see them i can meet for an afternoon somewhere ect but any extended time isn't going to happen now. I'm really sad bc my girl hasn't family (grandparents, cousins, aunts/ uncle ect) only a great aunt/uncle and now not even that. |
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"Parasite Khan should concentrate his efforts to clean air in Pakistan one of the worse world contributors to filthy pollution and his home country - one way ticket I will gladly fund !
Criticise his politics all you want, but he's British. You know that.
My point is that his half whit scheme is not anything to do with pollution ; he is using any scheming way possible to fund his inadequacies and gross incompetence as a leader over the last 8 years .
Whereas his heritage is from a county that blindly contributes towards serious ozone depletion.
One could use words like hypocritical
Ok, sure. I don't see how where his parents are from makes any difference at all, so no idea why you'd bring it up. Well I do know, but well done for talking about his heritage this time rather than his "home country".
You can make the point about disliking ULEZ without any mention of his heritage - there's no hypocrisy on his part as he's not responsible in any way for what happens in Pakistan."
Your missing the point - Khan doesn’t give a shite about health; this is a TAX lining his and his useless left wing ( work from home doing nothing civil servants ) pockets . We need to get real the county can’t survive using such stealth tax policies. Those who do work have no incentive to do so.
If he had the slightest concern as to peoples health he would mention, and make donations to, the poor country’s who are less fortunate , like Pakistan ,who are the real contributors to poor health and global pollution .
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"Yes I'm a single parent and live right on the border, half a mile away from the edge. My only family are in Dorset, they used to visit. Now they don't. They don't invite me there bc they're quite precious about their property and don't want a toddler running around it so to see them i can meet for an afternoon somewhere ect but any extended time isn't going to happen now. I'm really sad bc my girl hasn't family (grandparents, cousins, aunts/ uncle ect) only a great aunt/uncle and now not even that. "
I don't know who Julie is but she is your friend if you want an online map that shows all the camera locations inside the ULEZ zone. It might be useful for you if you are half a mile inside the boundary  |
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"Yep !!! One of my best friends lives just outside and in just inside, none of his vehicles are compliant and he has no plans to change that as they are perfectly good, working vehicles for the countryside. So he has told me that when we meet it either has to be outside of ulez rather than ever coming here for a bbq etc etc.
Hope Khan spends the rest of his life walking barefoot and stepping on Lego and upturned plugs with every step
Yep, bugger people breathing cleaner air! Useless hippies!"
It ain’t about clean air. If it was the cars wouldn’t be allowed in the zone. How long it will take to make a relevant change is going to be a LONG way off. |
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"Parasite Khan should concentrate his efforts to clean air in Pakistan one of the worse world contributors to filthy pollution and his home country - one way ticket I will gladly fund !
Criticise his politics all you want, but he's British. You know that.
My point is that his half whit scheme is not anything to do with pollution ; he is using any scheming way possible to fund his inadequacies and gross incompetence as a leader over the last 8 years .
Whereas his heritage is from a county that blindly contributes towards serious ozone depletion.
One could use words like hypocritical
Ok, sure. I don't see how where his parents are from makes any difference at all, so no idea why you'd bring it up. Well I do know, but well done for talking about his heritage this time rather than his "home country".
You can make the point about disliking ULEZ without any mention of his heritage - there's no hypocrisy on his part as he's not responsible in any way for what happens in Pakistan.
Your missing the point - Khan doesn’t give a shite about health; this is a TAX lining his and his useless left wing ( work from home doing nothing civil servants ) pockets . We need to get real the county can’t survive using such stealth tax policies. Those who do work have no incentive to do so.
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So even when you dont drive your car thats not ULEZ compliant, you still been charged £12.50 a day? And you guys want a Labour government thats admitted on t.v that they plan to have ULEZ zonesin other cities in the UK |
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"So even when you dont drive your car thats not ULEZ compliant, you still been charged £12.50 a day? And you guys want a Labour government thats admitted on t.v that they plan to have ULEZ zonesin other cities in the UK
What are you talking about? You don't pay the charge unless you drive in the zone.
I have no strong views on the ULEZ, but let's stick to the facts."
yes you do, I know someone who told me they live where the ULEZ camera is on his street and being charged everyday when his not using it. His trying to appeal them as we speak |
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"So even when you dont drive your car thats not ULEZ compliant, you still been charged £12.50 a day? And you guys want a Labour government thats admitted on t.v that they plan to have ULEZ zonesin other cities in the UK
What are you talking about? You don't pay the charge unless you drive in the zone.
I have no strong views on the ULEZ, but let's stick to the facts. yes you do, I know someone who told me they live where the ULEZ camera is on his street and being charged everyday when his not using it. His trying to appeal them as we speak"
Then I'm sure he'll get it back, as the rules are really clear that parked cars aren't charged. |
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