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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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What the fuck is wrong with people these days!! On way back from Manchester and im sat on the train.. So this guy comes over and asks me to move my guitar to sit down.. Im good with that.. Then this women asks me politely to move my bag so i now have my guitar and bag on the seat next to me on the seat..
Sat listening to my music and next thingi know im getting pushed.. I look up and some guy is stood there and asks to sit down.. Now all the over head compartments are full with other peoples stuff.. I said i have no where to put my bad.. He them grabs my bad and throws up down the isle and pushes my guitar out the way..
Now is it me or am i obliged to fucking kick shit out of this arrigant peice of something lower that shit.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Violence never solved anything 
I would be pretty miffed off if someone touched my stuff,but have also been miffed off once when a guy wouldn't move his bag for my daughter to sit down. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You need to ask us what to do first? I presume he's been sitting there these past five minutes while you decide whether to kick his head in or not. I think the moment has passed. I'd have wrapped the guitar round his neck the moment he touched it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Really don't know why people have to revert to violence, what does it ever solve? And I am guessing you didn't pay for 2 seats??
Yes they were in the wrong to move your belongings, but violence is not the answer |
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"Why didn't you just put it in the overhead compartment? "
He did say they were full further up.
Yeah he was wrong to move your stuff but really unless you paid for 2 seats you should of moved it first. I've gotten trains to London with bags piled on my lap before for the same reason x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Although throwing your bag was way out of order,,,,,
Why should your luggage create problems for someone else who just wants to take a seat they’ve paid for….
Surely if you’d felt so protective about you luggage, you could have offered to stand and use your seat to store it on.... But instead you seem to be suggesting someone else’s should compromise their desire to use a seat they have paid for just so you can keep yours and occupy another with your luggage……!
I would have called the guard and had you remove your luggage from the vacant seat and whatever problems that caused you would have been of your own making…!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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get your guitar out and start singing "i know a song that'll get on ya nerves"at the top of ya voice ,you'll find you'll end up with loads of space quite quickly  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Play him a song.
Dedicate it to him and sing at the top of your voice.
When you have finish tell him what a lovely individual he is and he's made your weekend.
Or just kick him in the balls |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I hate people that think that the seats next to them on a train are reserved for their baggage. Totally selfish and shows a lack of respect for other passengers. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
There will be a post on another forum somewhere about the sod occupying two seats on a packed train, refusing to move his sodding bag and guitar and now having to sit next to him after being forced to move them for him.
Have a nice day. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I hate people that think that the seats next to them on a train are reserved for their baggage. Totally selfish and shows a lack of respect for other passengers."
This  |
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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago
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I'm sorry but you are in the wrong most trains have a luggage compartment you should have put your bag there the guitar I get But it could go between your legs. I get really fed up of paying for train tickets then having to stand on a journey because someone won't move their shopping or luggage. Yes the guy was wrong to throw your bag down the aisle but your taking up space with stuff that should be in a designated spot |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Are you trying to get a reaction, surely most people would find what you've done unacceptable, surely the question should be would it be acceptable for the passenger to have shoved the guitar up your arse. |
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"Although throwing your bag was way out of order,,,,,
Why should your luggage create problems for someone else who just wants to take a seat they’ve paid for….
Surely if you’d felt so protective about you luggage, you could have offered to stand and use your seat to store it on.... But instead you seem to be suggesting someone else’s should compromise their desire to use a seat they have paid for just so you can keep yours and occupy another with your luggage……!
I would have called the guard and had you remove your luggage from the vacant seat and whatever problems that caused you would have been of your own making…!
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This!
It's irksome, when travelling on packed commuter trains you've sold your kidney to travel on to discover some selfish bastard occupying a seat whist his/her luggage travels in comfort while you stand.
Every morning I have to ask someone to move their bag etc...the look on my face makes it clear I'm not going to ask twice!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wouldn't support the guy just moving your gear but at the same time your stuff has no entitlement to a seat. How did you react when asked to move your stuff a third time? If you refused then I would have gone to complain to the conductor, but I would not have let it lie, if you have too much stuff to look after then you shouldn't take it on the train |
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"I hate people that think that the seats next to them on a train are reserved for their baggage. Totally selfish and shows a lack of respect for other passengers."
Reading some of the comments I was beginning to think I was living in an alternative universe!
Seems like thee and me are the only ones to think the OP selfish. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Arent we all such law abiding peeps on here.... no-one has suggested he report him to the relevant authorities, for his aggressive behaviour and poss criminal damage to your property! hahah |
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"I hate people that think that the seats next to them on a train are reserved for their baggage. Totally selfish and shows a lack of respect for other passengers.
Reading some of the comments I was beginning to think I was living in an alternative universe!
Seems like thee and me are the only ones to think the OP selfish."
Oh it would appear not. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Arent we all such law abiding peeps on here.... no-one has suggested he report him to the relevant authorities, for his aggressive behaviour and poss criminal damage to your property! hahah "
That would take up half you day lol and half someone else's and shit loads of paper work which probably wouldn't go anywhere...  |
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over a year ago
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"I hate people that think that the seats next to them on a train are reserved for their baggage. Totally selfish and shows a lack of respect for other passengers.
This "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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There was a few other empty seats, all luggage compartments were full..
Me being me is he had just tapped me on the should and said "excuse me can you move your bag please" i would havehappily moved it.. But instead i got shoved into the window, i took my head phones out and he said "move your fucking bag" thought it was quite rude personally.. And then he threw my bag.. Now is it me but you get people saying ohh id throw it as well.. But hang on a min.. How would you feel in the same situation as me.. I was spoken to like shit for no reason and had my property possibly damaged.. All because he couldnt be arsed to be polite..
Manners cost nothing.. A simple please would have been okay but i dont want some snotty chav with his head so far up his own arse sat next to me.. |
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over a year ago
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"There was a few other empty seats, all luggage compartments were full..
Me being me is he had just tapped me on the should and said "excuse me can you move your bag please" i would havehappily moved it.. But instead i got shoved into the window, i took my head phones out and he said "move your fucking bag" thought it was quite rude personally.. And then he threw my bag.. Now is it me but you get people saying ohh id throw it as well.. But hang on a min.. How would you feel in the same situation as me.. I was spoken to like shit for no reason and had my property possibly damaged.. All because he couldnt be arsed to be polite..
Manners cost nothing.. A simple please would have been okay but i dont want some snotty chav with his head so far up his own arse sat next to me.. "
But according to your OP.... he did ask to sit down, and it was only after your protestation remarking on a lack of an alternate space for your luggage, that he reacted the way he did ,
However as you’ve now point out, there were other vacant seats, so perhaps you could have politely offered to move your luggage to one of those and let the man have the seat of his choice …..
So perhaps... better manners on both sides might have avoided the situation… |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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I would ask nicely once, maybe twice for you to move your items.
if you moved them, I would say thank you and offer help in safe guarding them.
if I had to ask 3 times..... Mariah Carey with the worst PMT would be Mother Theresa in comparison.
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"I would ask nicely once, maybe twice for you to move your items.
if you moved them, I would say thank you and offer help in safe guarding them.
if I had to ask 3 times..... Mariah Carey with the worst PMT would be Mother Theresa in comparison.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There was a few other empty seats, all luggage compartments were full..
Me being me is he had just tapped me on the should and said "excuse me can you move your bag please" i would havehappily moved it.. But instead i got shoved into the window, i took my head phones out and he said "move your fucking bag" thought it was quite rude personally.. And then he threw my bag.. Now is it me but you get people saying ohh id throw it as well.. But hang on a min.. How would you feel in the same situation as me.. I was spoken to like shit for no reason and had my property possibly damaged.. All because he couldnt be arsed to be polite..
Manners cost nothing.. A simple please would have been okay but i dont want some snotty chav with his head so far up his own arse sat next to me.. "
So when you first sat down there was overhead space but you took up 3 seats? One for you, one for your bag, one for your guitar. Did you not think the train would get busier? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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unfortunatly even though it sounds like he acted a bit over the top its you that is mainly in the wrong as your luggage should not of been on the seat in the 1st place, if there was no overhead luggage space and none at the end of the carriage then simple thing would be bag under seat and guitar between your legs.
you only pay for one seat so only take one seat, if you want to put luggage on a seat pay for 2 seats then you have a right to that seat. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There was a few other empty seats, all luggage compartments were full..
Me being me is he had just tapped me on the should and said "excuse me can you move your bag please" i would havehappily moved it.. But instead i got shoved into the window, i took my head phones out and he said "move your fucking bag" thought it was quite rude personally.. And then he threw my bag.. Now is it me but you get people saying ohh id throw it as well.. But hang on a min.. How would you feel in the same situation as me.. I was spoken to like shit for no reason and had my property possibly damaged.. All because he couldnt be arsed to be polite..
Manners cost nothing.. A simple please would have been okay but i dont want some snotty chav with his head so far up his own arse sat next to me.. "
Sounds like you're changing your tune to a sob story as people aren't agreeing with you. It wasn't your seat, he moved your shit, get over it |
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I do love to see all the keyboard warriors flexing their virtual muscles on these forums at times....half of them wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life.
In answer to the Op....you paid for one seat, you chose to take two or three....tough. |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"I do love to see all the keyboard warriors flexing their virtual muscles on these forums at times....half of them wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life.
In answer to the Op....you paid for one seat, you chose to take two or three....tough."
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"unfortunatly even though it sounds like he acted a bit over the top its you that is mainly in the wrong as your luggage should not of been on the seat in the 1st place, if there was no overhead luggage space and none at the end of the carriage then simple thing would be bag under seat and guitar between your legs.
you only pay for one seat so only take one seat, if you want to put luggage on a seat pay for 2 seats then you have a right to that seat."
I didnt think about putting it under myseat...
Mehh times gone and we both apologized for over reacting . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I do love to see all the keyboard warriors flexing their virtual muscles on these forums at times....half of them wouldn't say boo to a goose in real life.
In answer to the Op....you paid for one seat, you chose to take two or three....tough."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I am sorry . So you sat down and took up 4 seats if I am reading this right as u had to move some stuff for the 1st guy . Then move your guitar for the lady and then a 3 rd guy got pissy with you . Hell I am shocked he was so polite as to just throw your bag . Why should people have to ask you if they can use a seat that they have had to pay for !!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What the fuck is wrong with people these days!! On way back from Manchester and im sat on the train.. So this guy comes over and asks me to move my guitar to sit down.. Im good with that.. Then this women asks me politely to move my bag so i now have my guitar and bag on the seat next to me on the seat..
Sat listening to my music and next thingi know im getting pushed.. I look up and some guy is stood there and asks to sit down.. Now all the over head compartments are full with other peoples stuff.. I said i have no where to put my bad.. He them grabs my bad and throws up down the isle and pushes my guitar out the way..
Now is it me or am i obliged to fucking kick shit out of this arrigant peice of something lower that shit.. "
Seems to me you need a lesson in manners and non aggression. Who the hell do you think you are? |
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"As I said to once before Rabbit, you have more adventures than Robin Hood, I do however like you but do have to wonder how much more smoothly your life would run if you made it less complicated.
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"Although throwing your bag was way out of order,,,,,
Why should your luggage create problems for someone else who just wants to take a seat they’ve paid for….
Surely if you’d felt so protective about you luggage, you could have offered to stand and use your seat to store it on.... But instead you seem to be suggesting someone else’s should compromise their desire to use a seat they have paid for just so you can keep yours and occupy another with your luggage……!
I would have called the guard and had you remove your luggage from the vacant seat and whatever problems that caused you would have been of your own making…!
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As my wife found out recently you are not paying for a seat but to be abke to travel on the train.
Personally I would have given him a mouthful for throwing my things, then be as awkward as I could towards the idiot. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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the rule we use to use on east coast was a simple one.....
if people were standing then other were using bags to take up seats... we would ask nicely for them to be removed.....
if there were still people standing after that.... they would be told anyone not moving bags would be charged a full open single ticket and we start going down the train to check....
funny enough bags get moved sharpish then... |
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"Although throwing your bag was way out of order,,,,,
Why should your luggage create problems for someone else who just wants to take a seat they’ve paid for….
Surely if you’d felt so protective about you luggage, you could have offered to stand and use your seat to store it on.... But instead you seem to be suggesting someone else’s should compromise their desire to use a seat they have paid for just so you can keep yours and occupy another with your luggage……!
I would have called the guard and had you remove your luggage from the vacant seat and whatever problems that caused you would have been of your own making…!
As my wife found out recently you are not paying for a seat but to be abke to travel on the train.
Personally I would have given him a mouthful for throwing my things, then be as awkward as I could towards the idiot."
my-my...what a pleasant travelling companion you’d be….   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You should have retrieved your bag from the aisle, sat him down and started recanting some of your stories and anecdotes.
He'd have soon found somewhere else to sit. |
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over a year ago
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None of this would happen if the put guitar racks in the cars lol.
Yes you took up seats and yes you are wrong too but let's get real most people would be upset at being pushed and having stuff thrown down.
Just think he might do it one day to some one else who isn't so placid and earn himself a fat lip.
Wrong I know but if your rude to people you may well get it back. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Mehh its dealt with.. I appologized he appologized had a chat.. Gave him a cig.. Turned out to be okay he was just having a bad time like me..
His dad died yesterday  .. Told my dad died a few days ago..
All good now ..
And as for Forun rules.. People stop sending me abusive messages then blocking me and also giving me abuse in the forums..
You know who you are.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"None of this would happen if the put guitar racks in the cars lol.
Yes you took up seats and yes you are wrong too but let's get real most people would be upset at being pushed and having stuff thrown down.
Just think he might do it one day to some one else who isn't so placid and earn himself a fat lip.
Wrong I know but if your rude to people you may well get it back."
I told him of he broke my guitar i want it replacing.. Lol.. But luckily all that was broken was the rose i got for my mum for valentines day off my dad.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There was a few other empty seats, all luggage compartments were full..
Me being me is he had just tapped me on the should and said "excuse me can you move your bag please" i would havehappily moved it.. But instead i got shoved into the window, i took my head phones out and he said "move your fucking bag" thought it was quite rude personally.. And then he threw my bag.. Now is it me but you get people saying ohh id throw it as well.. But hang on a min.. How would you feel in the same situation as me.. I was spoken to like shit for no reason and had my property possibly damaged.. All because he couldnt be arsed to be polite..
Manners cost nothing.. A simple please would have been okay but i dont want some snotty chav with his head so far up his own arse sat next to me..
So when you first sat down there was overhead space but you took up 3 seats? One for you, one for your bag, one for your guitar. Did you not think the train would get busier? "
hmmm exactly, people who do this really get on my nerves trying to make it difficult for people to sit near or next to them. For goodness sakes if you are that complexed do not travel on shared transport.
There is no freedome without respect and we should all go first. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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And as for Forun rules.. People stop sending me abusive messages then blocking me and also giving me abuse in the forums..
You know who you are.. "
You are actually breaking them yourself by trying to contact people who have blocked you.
If you have abusive mails, report from the mail itself or the profile. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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If I was tired after a long day at work and had to face a hideous rail journey home, I would not want to stand do someone could put their stuff in a seat.
Whatever storage problems they have are not my problems and I shouldn't have to face the consequences of that.
That said throwing someone's belongings about is also wrong, but I wonder if your attitude to him was as neutral as your initial post would lead us to believe. Also, the fact that he was the third person to have to ASK you to move your stuff so they could sit would suggest you were taking up FOUR seats to begin with.
Perhaps I am wrong, but I see that as either inconsiderate or selfish. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"The moral of the story, when someone asks you to move your stuff off a seat so they can sit down, move them."
You shouldn't have to ask. Anyone with working eyes can see that people are standing whilst your stuff languishes on a seat. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why didn't you just put your bag and guitar in the luggage rack when you first got on the train? If you had 4 seats to yourself it sounds like the train was empty "
He did state the luggage storage compartments were already full at the beginning of this thread.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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id be cross if anybody touched my stuff at all - id be just as cross if anybody wouldnt move their stuff to vacate a seat - pay for two seats then foar enough |
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"The moral of the story, when someone asks you to move your stuff off a seat so they can sit down, move them.
You shouldn't have to ask. Anyone with working eyes can see that people are standing whilst your stuff languishes on a seat."
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By (user no longer on site)
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I can see it from both sides, it's frustrating anywhere buses/trains/queues etc. when somebody is in the way taking up more than one seat/space. It's also frustrating when you've not deliberately been inconsiderate and people are rude. I would like video evidence if anybody here works for national rail?
Just think on it next time mate, violence wouldn't have solved this one |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"The moral of the story, when someone asks you to move your stuff off a seat so they can sit down, move them.
You shouldn't have to ask. Anyone with working eyes can see that people are standing whilst your stuff languishes on a seat."
I agree.
I was commenting on what the OP said he did or didn't do and not what I would have done. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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I can see it from both sides, it's frustrating anywhere buses/trains/queues etc. when somebody is in the way taking up more than one seat/space. It's also frustrating when you've not deliberately been inconsiderate and people are rude. I would like video evidence if anybody here works for national rail?
Just think on it next time mate, violence wouldn't have solved this one"
I think it is deliberately inconsiderate to take up four seats, especially if you can see people standing which they must have been to ask if they could sit!! |
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I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
(Ooh!)
I'm Asking Him To Change
His Ways
(Ooh!)
And No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change)
I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
(Ooh!)
I'm Asking Him To Change His
Ways
(Change His Ways-Ooh!)
And No Message Could've
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make That . . .
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make That . . .)
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"I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
(Ooh!)
I'm Asking Him To Change
His Ways
(Ooh!)
And No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make A Change
I'm Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
(Ooh!)
I'm Asking Him To Change His
Ways
(Change His Ways-Ooh!)
And No Message Could've
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make That . . .
(Take A Look At Yourself And
Then Make That . . .)
Change"
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