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Peckham Protests

By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Reports from Peckham made famous by it's spring water is seeing protests outside a shop were a shoplifter was apprehended by staff or security. The video is doing the rounds. Now in Toms world, if you ho into a cosmetic shop stealing the goods then rough justice on you. What did you expect. A handshake and free bag when you left ...

What's going on here guys. It's all over the news

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

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By *heelerMan over a year ago

Northants

You plonkers !

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Del Boy has hit rough times

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By *addad99Man over a year ago

Rotherham /newquay

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

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yep should have done more to the scum

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

She was just reuniting him with his basket.

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By *xplore_With_MeMan over a year ago

England

Deserved everything she got.

Anyway, once you see the unedited and full footage, only an insane person would say the shopkeepers actions were not acceptable.

As for those ‘protesting’. Any excuse to cause a bit of disruption and create aggro. Rif raf.

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By *immerman100Man over a year ago

Never never land

Amazing how social media can show 1 side of a story

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Deserved everything she got.

Anyway, once you see the unedited and full footage, only an insane person would say the shopkeepers actions were not acceptable.

As for those ‘protesting’. Any excuse to cause a bit of disruption and create aggro. Rif raf. "

Agreed. It wasn't as though she was stealing food for her starving babies, she was stealing beauty products. The full video shows her previously attacking the shopkeeper quite violently, but of course, it's been edited for the weak of comprehension.

Bess x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests. "

Yes because self defence is not okay.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks.

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

The shop keepers are being referred to as parasites by the protestors.

Why is that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks. "

Sexism on the play, assuming violence by male, dismissing female violence.

Perhaps if she had not attacked first she would not have had an issue!

Fucked around, found out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Reports from Peckham made famous by it's spring water is seeing protests outside a shop were a shoplifter was apprehended by staff or security. The video is doing the rounds. Now in Toms world, if you ho into a cosmetic shop stealing the goods then rough justice on you. What did you expect. A handshake and free bag when you left ...

What's going on here guys. It's all over the news"

She entered the store for a refund (which for some reason is against store policy) apparently.

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By *vilgasamWoman over a year ago

The dot in the i

She didn’t steal, she was asking for a refund and he kicked off, he had absolutely no right to put his hands near her, never mind choking her

I’m glad it’s been shut down and I hope he gets arrested and charged as he deserves

The video is online showing what happened fully

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks.

Sexism on the play, assuming violence by male, dismissing female violence.

Perhaps if she had not attacked first she would not have had an issue!

Fucked around, found out."

Where's the sexism? She didn't attempt to ch0ke him. He could have esc0rted her out without that. I haven't dismissed her violence or questioned that he needed to remove her. Just the manner in which he did it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"She didn’t steal, she was asking for a refund and he kicked off, he had absolutely no right to put his hands near her, never mind choking her

I’m glad it’s been shut down and I hope he gets arrested and charged as he deserves

The video is online showing what happened fully "

She was denied a refund and then went on to try and take goods she had no right to take. That's theft. She was told not to but continued, then when the shopkeeper stepped in she assaulted him.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks.

Sexism on the play, assuming violence by male, dismissing female violence.

Perhaps if she had not attacked first she would not have had an issue!

Fucked around, found out.

Your pitch is sexist in that you expect a "stronger" male not to use whatever force is needed to defend himself. Clear and blatant.

She had a choice, she could have walked away without trying to help herself to goods she had no right to. She decided to fuck around and she found out.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks.

Sexism on the play, assuming violence by male, dismissing female violence.

Perhaps if she had not attacked first she would not have had an issue!

Fucked around, found out.

Your pitch is sexist in that you expect a "stronger" male not to use whatever force is needed to defend himself. Clear and blatant.

She had a choice, she could have walked away without trying to help herself to goods she had no right to. She decided to fuck around and she found out.

She didn’t steal anything. She went in for a refund. The full footage clearly shows the chap pushing her first.

He’s now been interviewed under caution.

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By *ustamanMan over a year ago

weymouth

This is what the media does, skews the reporting in order to whip up a frenzy and polarise people. The actual facts will be buried somewhere. Don't rise

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks.

Sexism on the play, assuming violence by male, dismissing female violence.

Perhaps if she had not attacked first she would not have had an issue!

Fucked around, found out.

Your pitch is sexist in that you expect a "stronger" male not to use whatever force is needed to defend himself. Clear and blatant.

She had a choice, she could have walked away without trying to help herself to goods she had no right to. She decided to fuck around and she found out.

She didn’t steal anything. She went in for a refund. The full footage clearly shows the chap pushing her first.

He’s now been interviewed under caution. "

And she has been charged with shoplifting.

Seriously this is another example of echo chamber news consumerism.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Don’t you just love these Daily Mail-inspired threads?

Women goes in for refund, is refused, tries to take goods to the value of and gets attacked for her trouble.

And people blame the woman somehow.

Lovely world we live in.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This is what the media does, skews the reporting in order to whip up a frenzy and polarise people. The actual facts will be buried somewhere. Don't rise

Spot on

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By *oxesMan over a year ago

Southend, Essex

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

On a separate note your user name is perfect for this forum.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman over a year ago

ashford

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests. "

Absolutely 100% not at all acceptable! X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks.

Sexism on the play, assuming violence by male, dismissing female violence.

Perhaps if she had not attacked first she would not have had an issue!

Fucked around, found out.

Your pitch is sexist in that you expect a "stronger" male not to use whatever force is needed to defend himself. Clear and blatant.

She had a choice, she could have walked away without trying to help herself to goods she had no right to. She decided to fuck around and she found out.

She didn’t steal anything. She went in for a refund. The full footage clearly shows the chap pushing her first.

He’s now been interviewed under caution.

And she has been charged with shoplifting.

Seriously this is another example of echo chamber news consumerism. "

But you’ve decided that he’s done nothing wrong, haven’t you? You said she ‘fucked around, found out’, after all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks.

Sexism on the play, assuming violence by male, dismissing female violence.

Perhaps if she had not attacked first she would not have had an issue!

Fucked around, found out.

Your pitch is sexist in that you expect a "stronger" male not to use whatever force is needed to defend himself. Clear and blatant.

She had a choice, she could have walked away without trying to help herself to goods she had no right to. She decided to fuck around and she found out.

No, I expect anyone not to str@ngle another person which can result in significant brain injury.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks.

Sexism on the play, assuming violence by male, dismissing female violence.

Perhaps if she had not attacked first she would not have had an issue!

Fucked around, found out.

Your pitch is sexist in that you expect a "stronger" male not to use whatever force is needed to defend himself. Clear and blatant.

She had a choice, she could have walked away without trying to help herself to goods she had no right to. She decided to fuck around and she found out.

No, I expect anyone not to str@ngle another person which can result in significant brain injury. "

No use knocking when there’s no one in

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks.

Sexism on the play, assuming violence by male, dismissing female violence.

Perhaps if she had not attacked first she would not have had an issue!

Fucked around, found out.

Your pitch is sexist in that you expect a "stronger" male not to use whatever force is needed to defend himself. Clear and blatant.

She had a choice, she could have walked away without trying to help herself to goods she had no right to. She decided to fuck around and she found out.

"Reasonable force" doesn't include ch0king someone. And yes, him being twice her size is relevant. He didn't need to ch0ke her to defend himself.

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By *ea monkeyMan over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

Not you again

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By *ansoffateMan over a year ago

Sagittarius A

Wow you expressed a direct opinion. Hello Tom's world.

Where's the line? Does anything go. You steal my lippy I can blow your brains out with a shotgun?

Tell me your story Tom. Fuck the news.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

She's lucky this wasn't in America he'd probably have shot her.

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By *ndycoinsMan over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"Don’t you just love these Daily Mail-inspired threads?

Women goes in for refund, is refused, tries to take goods to the value of and gets attacked for her trouble.

And people blame the woman somehow.

Lovely world we live in."

Being refused a refund does not excuse taking goods,that is still theft.Why was she refused a refund? Goods not purchased there?

Goods damaged/opened?If she has simply changed her mind about the goods the shopkeeper is under no obligation to give a refund.

You have no idea what mental state you're customers are in or what they are under the influence of.When they kick off you don't know how far they will go and what it will escalate to.You don't know if they have a weapon or if they will grab something to use as one.

When they kick off they need dealing with immediately,fucking around waiting for the cops does nothing for staff/other customers/shopkeepers safety.If you can't behave like a reasonable human don't be surprised when you are treated like a mad dog.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

What's going on here guys. It's all over the news"
awright dave?

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

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By *ndycoinsMan over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"Wow you expressed a direct opinion. Hello Tom's world.

Where's the line? Does anything go. You steal my lippy I can blow your brains out with a shotgun?

Tell me your story Tom. Fuck the news."

Over 70% of people released from prison re offend.100% of dead people don't.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Wow you expressed a direct opinion. Hello Tom's world.

Where's the line? Does anything go. You steal my lippy I can blow your brains out with a shotgun?

Tell me your story Tom. Fuck the news.

Over 70% of people released from prison re offend.100% of dead people don't."

Free lipstick for all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods. "

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

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By *ora the explorerWoman over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?"

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!"

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it. "

Just a thought. When did it become his responsibility for her stealing from him? Pay for it and im sure he wont be touching her. Steal from someone and face the consequences. Let people do it and they will do it again.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

You've not answered my question

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple over a year ago

Manchester-ish

It is possible for everyone in this story to be in the wrong. You don't have to pick sides and decide who the goodies and baddies are.

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By *elvet RopeMan over a year ago

by the big field

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks. "

I used to go to a club in the early 90’s, head bouncer was about 5ft6 and 9st in a wet jumper- all the other bouncers were about 6ft6 and the size of a small planet, not one could overpower the small guy as he was some champion level martial arts dude- never underestimate the little guy….particularly these days when so many seem to carry weapons

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By * and R cple4Couple over a year ago

swansea

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it. "
You haven’t actually seen the full video you have seen bits edited to make it look extremely one sided …Exactly what the people who take the videos want you to see..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It is possible for everyone in this story to be in the wrong. You don't have to pick sides and decide who the goodies and baddies are.

That’s what the video recorders/editors want though.

Division and argument.

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By *ulieAndBeefCouple over a year ago

Manchester-ish

"It is possible for everyone in this story to be in the wrong. You don't have to pick sides and decide who the goodies and baddies are.

That’s what the video recorders/editors want though.

Division and argument."

Why give it to them?

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By *ansoffateMan over a year ago

Sagittarius A

"Wow you expressed a direct opinion. Hello Tom's world.

Where's the line? Does anything go. You steal my lippy I can blow your brains out with a shotgun?

Tell me your story Tom. Fuck the news.

Over 70% of people released from prison re offend.100% of dead people don't."

Well your opinion is clear

Recidivism rates do vary with approach to rehabilitation though?

Or is it 'fuck it: frontier justice for the win?

I used to be very much for rehabilitation, when I liked humanity.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It is possible for everyone in this story to be in the wrong. You don't have to pick sides and decide who the goodies and baddies are.

That’s what the video recorders/editors want though.

Division and argument.

Why give it to them?

B"
precisely why I’ve refrained from giving my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm sitting on the fence here. Does the video have audio?. If so, was the shopworker being abused verbally or vice versa?. What is that maybe that caused the incident?.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on this which is why we live in a free country (so far).

Peace and love to all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it. "

So you saw the part where she stole items and tried to leave the store? Did you see the part where he tried to prevent her leaving whilst trying to call the police? Did you see the part when she grabbed an item from the shelf and started hitting him over the head with it? Did you see the part when she called him a "filthy p@ki" (according to witnesses)? No, of course you didn't, or if you did, you're avoiding mentioning those parts. Perhaps look more closely next time you want to falsely accuse an innocent shopkeeper of "str@ngling" a violent scummy thief whilst trying to defend himself.

Bess

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By *unchalMan over a year ago

Dartford

"Deserved everything she got.

Anyway, once you see the unedited and full footage, only an insane person would say the shopkeepers actions were not acceptable.

As for those ‘protesting’. Any excuse to cause a bit of disruption and create aggro. Rif raf. "

Big man choking a small woman. Can't think of an excuse for that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks.

It was a 5 foot 2 woman.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

Where is Jennie when you need her....

Often shoplifters go into stores and pick up stuff off the shelves and then brazenly ask for a refund at the counter.

This is not Robin Hood from the rich to feed the poor. It's stealing from family businesses who work hard long hours to feed their families. No sympathy here whatsoever. If she kicked off then he is entitled to defend himself. Anyone comparing his actions to a police officer is a fool. They are trained and licenced. He is not. Play with fire and get your fingers burnt. These dogooders would feel differently about a common thief stealing money from their purse

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By *uddy laneMan over a year ago

dudley

Lock both of them up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess"

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

I've not excused her behaviour. Or pretended it didn't happen. I've said that ch0king as a form of self-defense isn't appropriate. Why do I have mention every other detail - they don't mitigate the ch0king.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Deserved everything she got.

Anyway, once you see the unedited and full footage, only an insane person would say the shopkeepers actions were not acceptable.

As for those ‘protesting’. Any excuse to cause a bit of disruption and create aggro. Rif raf.

Big man choking a small woman. Can't think of an excuse for that. "

Lots of other people can.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

What always cracks me up in these kind of threads is people's go to argument is accusing someone that they read a certain newspaper or their politics are this side or another.

What's actually happening is that a businessman felt so aggrieved by the actions of a so called customer he was compelled to apprehend her which by the sounds of it (I haven't seen the feed) ended up assaulting her.

Now here's the thing why did she feel it was acceptable to steal and expect to get away with it?

Why did he feel the need to be as heavy handed as he was.

I'm guessing that.

She either,so fed up with bad customer service from well let's be honest everywhere these days we constantly being ripped off under the banner of "cost of living" and decided to get her monies worth.

She just assumed that she could do whatever she wants because consequences of petty theft is pretty much zero.

Which leads us back to the shopkeeper.

Maybe he's so sick and tired of having stock st0len and no support from authorities that this was just the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

They had history and he was getting revenge for previous encounters, which is not up to him it's a matter for the law to follow up.

In summary

She was within her rights and was assaulted.

She wasn't and deserved what she got.

He is a aggressive asshole who likes picking on women.

He's a law abiding businessman who's been pushed to breaking point by a system that allows petty crime to go ahead without consequences and has no support from the law.

Whatever way you spin it.

She shouldn't have,he shouldn't have.

Simples

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By *ansoffateMan over a year ago

Sagittarius A

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests.

Yes because self defence is not okay.

You're telling someone his size can't restrain a woman her size without that? Bollocks.

It was a 5 foot 2 woman. "

Did he have a mullet, a cheeky grin and an old friend with a dodgy knee? Go by the name of Dalton?

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By *hristopherd999Man over a year ago

Brentwood

How about having a protest against shoplifting

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Chelmsford

In the news interview one protester was trying to make this a race issue. Disgusting.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In the news interview one protester was trying to make this a race issue. Disgusting. "

Not you again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

You really need to check your definitions of words before talking nonsense. Str@ngling def - "squeeze or constrict the neck of (a person or animal), especially so as to cause death.

Is the woman dead? No, she's not. She didn't even go to the floor.

If you watch the video, at no point do his hands close completely around her neck. At no stage does she look as though her breathing is being restricted. You really do need a reality check.

Bess

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

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By *hristopherd999Man over a year ago

Brentwood

"Call the police or remove her from the shop by all means. Putting his hands on her throat was unacceptable and that's why there are protests. "

Shoplifting is unacceptable

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What always cracks me up in these kind of threads is people's go to argument is accusing someone that they read a certain newspaper or their politics are this side or another.

Now here's the thing why did she feel it was acceptable to steal and expect to get away with it?

Why did he feel the need to be as heavy handed as he was.

I'm guessing that.

She either,so fed up with bad customer service from well let's be honest everywhere these days we constantly being ripped off under the banner of "cost of living" and decided to get her monies worth.

She just assumed that she could do whatever she wants because consequences of petty theft is pretty much zero.

Which leads us back to the shopkeeper.

Maybe he's so sick and tired of having stock st0len and no support from authorities that this was just the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

They had history and he was getting revenge for previous encounters, which is not up to him it's a matter for the law to follow up.

In summary

She was within her rights and was assaulted.

She wasn't and deserved what she got.

He is a aggressive asshole who likes picking on women.

He's a law abiding businessman who's been pushed to breaking point by a system that allows petty crime to go ahead without consequences and has no support from the law.

Whatever way you spin it.

She shouldn't have,he shouldn't have.

Simples "

She went in for a refund on goods.

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"In the news interview one protester was trying to make this a race issue. Disgusting. "

It is a race issue and you should never be ignorant or dismiss how a person feels from an experience they went through.

She was a customer to that man's business for 10 years and spent £100 in his shop every month so she doesn't need to steal anything

Her arrest was for assault not theft and its quite backwards to tell a person who is defending themselves they assaulted someone

You would learn from people's experiences if you tried to understand them instead of dismissing them

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By *hristopherd999Man over a year ago

Brentwood

"What always cracks me up in these kind of threads is people's go to argument is accusing someone that they read a certain newspaper or their politics are this side or another.

Now here's the thing why did she feel it was acceptable to steal and expect to get away with it?

Why did he feel the need to be as heavy handed as he was.

I'm guessing that.

She either,so fed up with bad customer service from well let's be honest everywhere these days we constantly being ripped off under the banner of "cost of living" and decided to get her monies worth.

She just assumed that she could do whatever she wants because consequences of petty theft is pretty much zero.

Which leads us back to the shopkeeper.

Maybe he's so sick and tired of having stock st0len and no support from authorities that this was just the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

They had history and he was getting revenge for previous encounters, which is not up to him it's a matter for the law to follow up.

In summary

She was within her rights and was assaulted.

She wasn't and deserved what she got.

He is a aggressive asshole who likes picking on women.

He's a law abiding businessman who's been pushed to breaking point by a system that allows petty crime to go ahead without consequences and has no support from the law.

Whatever way you spin it.

She shouldn't have,he shouldn't have.

Simples

She went in for a refund on goods."

We don't know what exactly happened but refusing to get a refund does not entitle you to help yourself!

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

You really need to check your definitions of words before talking nonsense. Str@ngling def - "squeeze or constrict the neck of (a person or animal), especially so as to cause death.

Is the woman dead? No, she's not. She didn't even go to the floor.

If you watch the video, at no point do his hands close completely around her neck. At no stage does she look as though her breathing is being restricted. You really do need a reality check.

Bess"

he still ch0ked her

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In the news interview one protester was trying to make this a race issue. Disgusting.

Not you again "

He wants a response and he gets one

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By * and R cple4Couple over a year ago

swansea

"In the news interview one protester was trying to make this a race issue. Disgusting.

It is a race issue and you should never be ignorant or dismiss how a person feels from an experience they went through.

She was a customer to that man's business for 10 years and spent £100 in his shop every month so she doesn't need to steal anything

Her arrest was for assault not theft and its quite backwards to tell a person who is defending themselves they assaulted someone

You would learn from people's experiences if you tried to understand them instead of dismissing them "
According to eye witnesses wasn’t she the only one using racist insults ? ..

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

People have a lot to say on something they have little knowledge on

Follow raspectrebellionff on instagram and educate yourself on what really happened no what the media will be telling you

If the shop keeper was so innocent he wouldn't have his shop closed

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"In the news interview one protester was trying to make this a race issue. Disgusting.

It is a race issue and you should never be ignorant or dismiss how a person feels from an experience they went through.

She was a customer to that man's business for 10 years and spent £100 in his shop every month so she doesn't need to steal anything

Her arrest was for assault not theft and its quite backwards to tell a person who is defending themselves they assaulted someone

You would learn from people's experiences if you tried to understand them instead of dismissing them According to eye witnesses wasn’t she the only one using racist insults ? .. "

First time I am knowing of her using racist insults is by seeing a thread made about it on here.

I heard the shop keepers interview too never heard him say she was racists towards him

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What always cracks me up in these kind of threads is people's go to argument is accusing someone that they read a certain newspaper or their politics are this side or another.

Now here's the thing why did she feel it was acceptable to steal and expect to get away with it?

Why did he feel the need to be as heavy handed as he was.

I'm guessing that.

She either,so fed up with bad customer service from well let's be honest everywhere these days we constantly being ripped off under the banner of "cost of living" and decided to get her monies worth.

She just assumed that she could do whatever she wants because consequences of petty theft is pretty much zero.

Which leads us back to the shopkeeper.

Maybe he's so sick and tired of having stock st0len and no support from authorities that this was just the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

They had history and he was getting revenge for previous encounters, which is not up to him it's a matter for the law to follow up.

In summary

She was within her rights and was assaulted.

She wasn't and deserved what she got.

He is a aggressive asshole who likes picking on women.

He's a law abiding businessman who's been pushed to breaking point by a system that allows petty crime to go ahead without consequences and has no support from the law.

Whatever way you spin it.

She shouldn't have,he shouldn't have.

Simples

She went in for a refund on goods.

We don't know what exactly happened but refusing to get a refund does not entitle you to help yourself!"

And someone shoplifting from your store doesn’t entitle you to assault them.

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By *hristopherd999Man over a year ago

Brentwood

"People have a lot to say on something they have little knowledge on

Follow raspectrebellionff on instagram and educate yourself on what really happened no what the media will be telling you

If the shop keeper was so innocent he wouldn't have his shop closed "

His shop was closed for safety reasons

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Travelling

Criminal A did something to criminal B

That is where my interest in whom did what ends.

Man, woman, big, small. I really don't care. Action X resulted in consequence Y and consequence Z.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

You really need to check your definitions of words before talking nonsense. Str@ngling def - "squeeze or constrict the neck of (a person or animal), especially so as to cause death.

Is the woman dead? No, she's not. She didn't even go to the floor.

If you watch the video, at no point do his hands close completely around her neck. At no stage does she look as though her breathing is being restricted. You really do need a reality check.

Bess"

Yes Bess. You're always right Bess. It's perfectly fine for a man to put his hands around a woman's throat and squeeze as long as she doesn't fall to the floor and die.

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"What always cracks me up in these kind of threads is people's go to argument is accusing someone that they read a certain newspaper or their politics are this side or another.

Now here's the thing why did she feel it was acceptable to steal and expect to get away with it?

Why did he feel the need to be as heavy handed as he was.

I'm guessing that.

She either,so fed up with bad customer service from well let's be honest everywhere these days we constantly being ripped off under the banner of "cost of living" and decided to get her monies worth.

She just assumed that she could do whatever she wants because consequences of petty theft is pretty much zero.

Which leads us back to the shopkeeper.

Maybe he's so sick and tired of having stock st0len and no support from authorities that this was just the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

They had history and he was getting revenge for previous encounters, which is not up to him it's a matter for the law to follow up.

In summary

She was within her rights and was assaulted.

She wasn't and deserved what she got.

He is a aggressive asshole who likes picking on women.

He's a law abiding businessman who's been pushed to breaking point by a system that allows petty crime to go ahead without consequences and has no support from the law.

Whatever way you spin it.

She shouldn't have,he shouldn't have.

Simples

She went in for a refund on goods.

We don't know what exactly happened but refusing to get a refund does not entitle you to help yourself!"

Dunno where you got that from what I said.

My point is that there's a few possibilities that caused this.

Yes stealing is wrong and assault is wrong but was caused both individuals to get to this point??

I was merely giving different view points to try to ascertain a logical cause.

Would people be getting so upset if the shopkeeper had been a big tall strong woman restraining a much smaller man?

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By *ools and the brainCouple over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"What always cracks me up in these kind of threads is people's go to argument is accusing someone that they read a certain newspaper or their politics are this side or another.

Now here's the thing why did she feel it was acceptable to steal and expect to get away with it?

Why did he feel the need to be as heavy handed as he was.

I'm guessing that.

She either,so fed up with bad customer service from well let's be honest everywhere these days we constantly being ripped off under the banner of "cost of living" and decided to get her monies worth.

She just assumed that she could do whatever she wants because consequences of petty theft is pretty much zero.

Which leads us back to the shopkeeper.

Maybe he's so sick and tired of having stock st0len and no support from authorities that this was just the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

They had history and he was getting revenge for previous encounters, which is not up to him it's a matter for the law to follow up.

In summary

She was within her rights and was assaulted.

She wasn't and deserved what she got.

He is a aggressive asshole who likes picking on women.

He's a law abiding businessman who's been pushed to breaking point by a system that allows petty crime to go ahead without consequences and has no support from the law.

Whatever way you spin it.

She shouldn't have,he shouldn't have.

Simples

She went in for a refund on goods.

We don't know what exactly happened but refusing to get a refund does not entitle you to help yourself!

And someone shoplifting from your store doesn’t entitle you to assault them. "

Well exactly my point.

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"People have a lot to say on something they have little knowledge on

Follow raspectrebellionff on instagram and educate yourself on what really happened no what the media will be telling you

If the shop keeper was so innocent he wouldn't have his shop closed

His shop was closed for safety reasons"

He regrets what he did and is in fear of his own safety that's why the shop is closed

Only weak men would put their hand on a woman they wouldn't dare do it to a man.

I hope his shop shuts for good

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

You really need to check your definitions of words before talking nonsense. Str@ngling def - "squeeze or constrict the neck of (a person or animal), especially so as to cause death.

Is the woman dead? No, she's not. She didn't even go to the floor.

If you watch the video, at no point do his hands close completely around her neck. At no stage does she look as though her breathing is being restricted. You really do need a reality check.

Bess

he still ch0ked her "

If you watch the full video, he had his hands on her neck for a total of about 6 seconds, and his hands are not tightly around her neck. This is not choking and it is not str@ngling. And this was after she had hit him so hard with a shop basket that it became detached from the handle, and after she'd taken an item off the shelf and hit him hard over the head with it. She also, according to witnesses, called him a "filthy p@ki".

Stop defending a violent racist.

Bess

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

You really need to check your definitions of words before talking nonsense. Str@ngling def - "squeeze or constrict the neck of (a person or animal), especially so as to cause death.

Is the woman dead? No, she's not. She didn't even go to the floor.

If you watch the video, at no point do his hands close completely around her neck. At no stage does she look as though her breathing is being restricted. You really do need a reality check.

Bess

Yes Bess. You're always right Bess. It's perfectly fine for a man to put his hands around a woman's throat and squeeze as long as she doesn't fall to the floor and die.

Ah, and here comes the agenda in full force. Did you not know that women are equal to men? We are as capable of violence and killing as men are, as proved by many recent and historical cases. If you offer violence, you should expect to receive violence in return, no matter what sex you are.

Bess

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

You really need to check your definitions of words before talking nonsense. Str@ngling def - "squeeze or constrict the neck of (a person or animal), especially so as to cause death.

Is the woman dead? No, she's not. She didn't even go to the floor.

If you watch the video, at no point do his hands close completely around her neck. At no stage does she look as though her breathing is being restricted. You really do need a reality check.

Bess

Yes Bess. You're always right Bess. It's perfectly fine for a man to put his hands around a woman's throat and squeeze as long as she doesn't fall to the floor and die.

Bess"

Thank you for the heads up Bess. Kind of you.

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

You really need to check your definitions of words before talking nonsense. Str@ngling def - "squeeze or constrict the neck of (a person or animal), especially so as to cause death.

Is the woman dead? No, she's not. She didn't even go to the floor.

If you watch the video, at no point do his hands close completely around her neck. At no stage does she look as though her breathing is being restricted. You really do need a reality check.

Bess

he still ch0ked her

Stop defending a violent racist.

Bess"

I seen ALL videos he ch0ked her she hit him with a basket

He has been interviewed never once said she was racist to him

Don't know what source your trusting but that ain't it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe he should just chuck on a frock and declare himself to be a woman, and the usual suspects with their warped mentality would see it as more acceptable woman on woman violence.

Bess

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

You really need to check your definitions of words before talking nonsense. Str@ngling def - "squeeze or constrict the neck of (a person or animal), especially so as to cause death.

Is the woman dead? No, she's not. She didn't even go to the floor.

If you watch the video, at no point do his hands close completely around her neck. At no stage does she look as though her breathing is being restricted. You really do need a reality check.

Bess

he still ch0ked her

Stop defending a violent racist.

Bess

I seen ALL videos he ch0ked her she hit him with a basket

He has been interviewed never once said she was racist to him

Don't know what source your trusting but that ain't it "

Definition of ch@king

(of a person or animal) have severe difficulty in breathing because of a constricted or obstructed throat or a lack of air.

How do you know she had difficulty in breathing - are you her doctor? No, you're making that bit up. In short, you're lying because that's what you want to see, not what actually happened.

Stop defending a violent racist.

Bess

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

You really need to check your definitions of words before talking nonsense. Str@ngling def - "squeeze or constrict the neck of (a person or animal), especially so as to cause death.

Is the woman dead? No, she's not. She didn't even go to the floor.

If you watch the video, at no point do his hands close completely around her neck. At no stage does she look as though her breathing is being restricted. You really do need a reality check.

Bess

he still ch0ked her

Stop defending a violent racist.

Bess

I seen ALL videos he ch0ked her she hit him with a basket

He has been interviewed never once said she was racist to him

Don't know what source your trusting but that ain't it

Definition of ch@king

(of a person or animal) have severe difficulty in breathing because of a constricted or obstructed throat or a lack of air.

How do you know she had difficulty in breathing - are you her doctor? No, you're making that bit up. In short, you're lying because that's what you want to see, not what actually happened.

Stop defending a violent racist.

Bess"

SHE WAS STRUGGLING TO GET OUT OF HIS GRIP

MADE A PHONE CALL THAT SHE HAD BEEN STR@NGLED

ARE YOU OK UP THERE

No one is on about what they wanted to see such a stupid thing to say

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

You really need to check your definitions of words before talking nonsense. Str@ngling def - "squeeze or constrict the neck of (a person or animal), especially so as to cause death.

Is the woman dead? No, she's not. She didn't even go to the floor.

If you watch the video, at no point do his hands close completely around her neck. At no stage does she look as though her breathing is being restricted. You really do need a reality check.

Bess

he still ch0ked her

Stop defending a violent racist.

Bess

I seen ALL videos he ch0ked her she hit him with a basket

He has been interviewed never once said she was racist to him

Don't know what source your trusting but that ain't it

Definition of ch@king

(of a person or animal) have severe difficulty in breathing because of a constricted or obstructed throat or a lack of air.

How do you know she had difficulty in breathing - are you her doctor? No, you're making that bit up. In short, you're lying because that's what you want to see, not what actually happened.

Stop defending a violent racist.

Bess"

If she says she had difficulty breathing she did , she probably has dyslexia and anxiety so getting caught stealing stressed her out poor thing

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested "

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again "

Can you read??

She did not steal

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Travelling

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

Can you read??

She did not steal

Because he stopped her. The man stopped a crime from happening. He committed another in the process but stopped it he did.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Im rather surprised how generous people are with other peoples goods and livelihoods.

So if the police started ch0king people to restrain them that would be ok? Not a dangerous precedent at all?

To be fair there was one bit that seemed to have his hand on her neck. You can’t see anything before that. And she was trying to kick the shit out of him the whole time!

I've seen multiple videos with more than one perspective. He had both hands on and he was rough as hell with it.

Bess

Oh did he not str@ngle her?

You really need to check your definitions of words before talking nonsense. Str@ngling def - "squeeze or constrict the neck of (a person or animal), especially so as to cause death.

Is the woman dead? No, she's not. She didn't even go to the floor.

If you watch the video, at no point do his hands close completely around her neck. At no stage does she look as though her breathing is being restricted. You really do need a reality check.

Bess"

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By *illan-KillashMan over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

Can you read??

She did not steal

The only reason she didn’t steal is because he stopped her.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

Can you read??

She did not steal

She tried to steal, got caught and tried to use violence and racist slurs to get out of it. She was arrested and bailed, not let go without charge. Stop defending a violent racist thief. Would you like me to put it in caps like you did because that makes you more right maybe?

Bess

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By *aucasian GhandiMan over a year ago

from my dad's left nut (Warwick)

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

yep should have done more to the scum "

Wow, that's really harsh, since you don't know the reasons why he has had to resort to shoplifting. I hope you or yours never have, to commit such a heinous act of villainy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

Can you read??

She did not steal

The only reason she didn’t steal is because he stopped her.

That right there was the mistake that will end his business, stop her outside and she’s a thief, grab her inside and she’s just a hard done too shite bag

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By *cnugatugMan over a year ago

Chatham

I took on a thief yesterday who tried walking out the shop with 3 bottles jack Daniels concealed in his jeans. Me being me and work hard for my wage wasn't having any of it so I detained him long enough to have security guards come in and take over. Yes my manager said I was an idiot for putting myself in that situation but also commended me for stopping it. I have a background in boxing and mma was able to put him in a full nelson hold he didn't get the whiskey and was carted away by police. Granted I shouldn't of interfered and protecal says to let them go but I'm sorry letting thief's get away isn't something that I can do I'll always try to stop them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

yep should have done more to the scum

Wow, that's really harsh, since you don't know the reasons why he has had to resort to shoplifting. I hope you or yours never have, to commit such a heinous act of villainy."

If it was food for her starving babies she stole, I would have more sympathy for her. She didn't. She demanded a refund for something, was refused, and then tried to steal beauty products. When she was stopped she got violent, assaulted the shop worker and called him a racist slur (according to witnesses, not the shop worker. He probably had hearing problems after being struck around the head using blunt instruments). Asian people face continuous racism and violence from all and sundry in the UK, we should not be blind to it just because, in this case, it was a "smaller" woman doing it.

Bess

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Travelling

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

yep should have done more to the scum

Wow, that's really harsh, since you don't know the reasons why he has had to resort to shoplifting. I hope you or yours never have, to commit such a heinous act of villainy.

Bess "

Just to add on - she was told no refunds, but exchanges or store credit was an option.

So then decided to attempt to steal 3 packs of hair worth £24

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

yep should have done more to the scum "

Wow.

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

Can you read??

She did not steal

Because he stopped her. The man stopped a crime from happening. He committed another in the process but stopped it he did. "

That's what she would have been arrested for then

ARE you just a racist yourself that refuses to believe she did NOT steal

Funny he isn't pressing charges

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

yep should have done more to the scum

Wow, that's really harsh, since you don't know the reasons why he has had to resort to shoplifting. I hope you or yours never have, to commit such a heinous act of villainy.

Bess "

Your blind to black people facing racism also hence your big speech to defend a vile shop owner

If she did steal don't you think he would be pressing charges

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

yep should have done more to the scum

Wow, that's really harsh, since you don't know the reasons why he has had to resort to shoplifting. I hope you or yours never have, to commit such a heinous act of villainy.

Bess

Your blind to black people facing racism also hence your big speech to defend a vile shop owner

If she did steal don't you think he would be pressing charges "

Ok, you're off into the realms of lala land now. Meaningless counter accusations don't impress me because I'm not 5 years old. Stop defending a violent racist thief.

Bess

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By *aucasian GhandiMan over a year ago

from my dad's left nut (Warwick)

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

yep should have done more to the scum

Wow, that's really harsh, since you don't know the reasons why he has had to resort to shoplifting. I hope you or yours never have, to commit such a heinous act of villainy.

Bess "

OK tbf and truthful I don't know nothing about it, I juat saw the comment I responded to. Well if she has reported to racist slurs then that's while new dimension and slant on things.....not condoning it, but must be desperate for her if she's having to rob for her starving baby

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Travelling

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

Can you read??

She did not steal

Because he stopped her. The man stopped a crime from happening. He committed another in the process but stopped it he did.

That's what she would have been arrested for then

ARE you just a racist yourself that refuses to believe she did NOT steal

Funny he isn't pressing charges "

Where in any way shape or form did I mention race? I explained why she did not steal, she was in the process of stealing and he stopped her from doing so. The situation is not limited to or exclusive to any race, gender, or ability of a person.

Your powers of discussion are failing you and you are reverting to weak arguments, name calling and slander.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

Can you read??

She did not steal

Because he stopped her. The man stopped a crime from happening. He committed another in the process but stopped it he did.

That's what she would have been arrested for then

ARE you just a racist yourself that refuses to believe she did NOT steal

Funny he isn't pressing charges

Your powers of discussion are failing you and you are reverting to weak arguments, name calling and slander. "

.Well said.

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

yep should have done more to the scum

Wow, that's really harsh, since you don't know the reasons why he has had to resort to shoplifting. I hope you or yours never have, to commit such a heinous act of villainy.

Bess

Your blind to black people facing racism also hence your big speech to defend a vile shop owner

If she did steal don't you think he would be pressing charges

Ok, you're off into the realms of lala land now. Meaningless counter accusations don't impress me because I'm not 5 years old. Stop defending a violent racist thief.

Bess"

No one on here is trying to impress you.

You have some serious issues you need to check

I'm done with broken vinyl records

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

Can you read??

She did not steal

Because he stopped her. The man stopped a crime from happening. He committed another in the process but stopped it he did.

That's what she would have been arrested for then

ARE you just a racist yourself that refuses to believe she did NOT steal

Funny he isn't pressing charges

Your powers of discussion are failing you and you are reverting to weak arguments, name calling and slander. "

A few including yourself make yourself appear racist that you don't want to be believe she was not arrested for theft but was accused of assault

There is no power its seriously dumb a few people still want to say the young lady was stealing when she wasn't arrested for that.

It's like some are just listening to themselves only on this thread

Ps I asked you a question which was are you a racist so you could of answered instead of telling me I'm name calling

Don't you know the difference between question and statement

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

Why are people making up new narratives about a situation brought to our attention

Assuming she has a baby or babies weird behaviour to assume things not spoken of

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

Some uncomfortable language that has been adorned on the shop front a disgusting parallel to a very bad time in history.

Couple this with people interview in the community saying they need to be stopped from “killing us” draws other uncomfortable parallels to the lozells riots.

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By *icolerobbieCouple over a year ago

walsall

I’m sure it will all be sorted out amicably in the community.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman over a year ago

ashford

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

Can you read??

She did not steal

Because he stopped her. The man stopped a crime from happening. He committed another in the process but stopped it he did.

That's what she would have been arrested for then

ARE you just a racist yourself that refuses to believe she did NOT steal

Funny he isn't pressing charges

Your powers of discussion are failing you and you are reverting to weak arguments, name calling and slander.

A few including yourself make yourself appear racist that you don't want to be believe she was not arrested for theft but was accused of assault

There is no power its seriously dumb a few people still want to say the young lady was stealing when she wasn't arrested for that.

It's like some are just listening to themselves only on this thread

Ps I asked you a question which was are you a racist so you could of answered instead of telling me I'm name calling

Don't you know the difference between question and statement

"Some" on this thread allways only listen to themselves and are never ever wrong! It's futile to converse with them tbh! X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

yep should have done more to the scum

Wow, that's really harsh, since you don't know the reasons why he has had to resort to shoplifting. I hope you or yours never have, to commit such a heinous act of villainy.

Bess

Your blind to black people facing racism also hence your big speech to defend a vile shop owner

If she did steal don't you think he would be pressing charges

Ok, you're off into the realms of lala land now. Meaningless counter accusations don't impress me because I'm not 5 years old. Stop defending a violent racist thief.

Bess

No one on here is trying to impress you.

You have some serious issues you need to check

I'm done with broken vinyl records "

Vinyl records break easily, but they bend first. How about you bend a little and actually look at the facts? Also, perhaps you could outline what "serious issues" I have that you feel need "checking"? If they include telling the truth, looking objectively at the facts and not getting embroiled in emotional knee-jerk reactions, don't bother. I otherwise look forward to your assessment.

Bess

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Travelling

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

Can you read??

She did not steal

Because he stopped her. The man stopped a crime from happening. He committed another in the process but stopped it he did.

That's what she would have been arrested for then

ARE you just a racist yourself that refuses to believe she did NOT steal

Funny he isn't pressing charges

Your powers of discussion are failing you and you are reverting to weak arguments, name calling and slander.

A few including yourself make yourself appear racist that you don't want to be believe she was not arrested for theft but was accused of assault

There is no power its seriously dumb a few people still want to say the young lady was stealing when she wasn't arrested for that.

It's like some are just listening to themselves only on this thread

Ps I asked you a question which was are you a racist so you could of answered instead of telling me I'm name calling

Don't you know the difference between question and statement

"Some" on this thread allways only listen to themselves and are never ever wrong! It's futile to converse with them tbh! X"

That is indeed true. And not just about the people you are trying to "tarnish" with that statement but also the people you are trying to "defend", yourself included.

Everyone in this place loves to sniff their own farts and proclaim it smells of roses. Nobody is exempt from that. The difference is some know it's true, the rest are self righteous hypocrites and like to claim otherwise.

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Travelling

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I will make two points before I give up on this ridiculous thread. Women are just as capable of violence and nastiness as men. To paint us as weak and defenceless in comparison to men is sexist, wrong and downright offensive.

Secondly, black people do not hold the monopoly on racism. I have had as many racial slurs thrown at me when I walk to the synagogue on a Friday by muslim Asians as I have from black people. Strangely, never once from a white skinhead type in bovver boots.

The times, they are a-changing - and not for the good.

Bess

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Travelling

"You can’t touch them and the police won’t come you can ask them not to or to put it back but they don’t have to , the law says you have to allow them to steal

She was not arrested for that and in fact she is on bail while the shop owner is arrested

I’m sure she will have the best lawyer the uk tax payers can find her and she’ll be quickly back stealing again

Can you read??

She did not steal

Because he stopped her. The man stopped a crime from happening. He committed another in the process but stopped it he did.

That's what she would have been arrested for then

ARE you just a racist yourself that refuses to believe she did NOT steal

Funny he isn't pressing charges

Your powers of discussion are failing you and you are reverting to weak arguments, name calling and slander.

A few including yourself make yourself appear racist that you don't want to be believe she was not arrested for theft but was accused of assault

There is no power its seriously dumb a few people still want to say the young lady was stealing when she wasn't arrested for that.

It's like some are just listening to themselves only on this thread

Ps I asked you a question which was are you a racist so you could of answered instead of telling me I'm name calling

Don't you know the difference between question and statement

Heads up. You are still yet to ask me a single question in your entire statement, as there isn't one anywhere in your responses to me.

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By *andycandy88Woman over a year ago

Northolt

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

yep should have done more to the scum

Wow, that's really harsh, since you don't know the reasons why he has had to resort to shoplifting. I hope you or yours never have, to commit such a heinous act of villainy.

Bess

Your blind to black people facing racism also hence your big speech to defend a vile shop owner

If she did steal don't you think he would be pressing charges

Ok, you're off into the realms of lala land now. Meaningless counter accusations don't impress me because I'm not 5 years old. Stop defending a violent racist thief.

Bess

No one on here is trying to impress you.

You have some serious issues you need to check

I'm done with broken vinyl records

Bess"

It's your problem not mine

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Travelling

And so I now retire from the thread.

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By *aucasian GhandiMan over a year ago

from my dad's left nut (Warwick)

"He tried to ch0ke the shoplifter, who was half his size. That ok with you Tom?

yep should have done more to the scum

Wow, that's really harsh, since you don't know the reasons why he has had to resort to shoplifting. I hope you or yours never have, to commit such a heinous act of villainy.

Bess

Your blind to black people facing racism also hence your big speech to defend a vile shop owner

If she did steal don't you think he would be pressing charges

Ok, you're off into the realms of lala land now. Meaningless counter accusations don't impress me because I'm not 5 years old. Stop defending a violent racist thief.

Bess

No one on here is trying to impress you.

You have some serious issues you need to check

I'm done with broken vinyl records

Bess

It's your problem not mine

Nah na na na nah