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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

I was watching an interesting program about it where they talked and gave many examples of it from the stockholm syndrome to the experiment in the 70s that was called the ashe where it was a conformity group experiment to see how one could be influenced by group pressure.

They also mentioned other things how the media is using subliminal messages and signs.

They also talked about how shops are doing the same things to try to buy their things.

I agree with them that it can be controlled, but of course it doesnt work on all people.

What is your view about it that your mind could be controlled?

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By *avexxMan  over a year ago

cheshire

control my mind not a chance,,

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman  over a year ago

Carlisle usually

Every piece of marketing is designed to influence your decisions, same for news and media in general.

Some people are more susceptible to it than others.

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By *ndycoinsMan  over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

Behavioural psychologists/nudge units during COVID.Look how many people went along with that.Modelling policy outcomes rather than data driven strategy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The key to a functioning society is getting people to believe they have freedom whilst being controlled. This applies to all aspects of live, our thoughts are manipulated from the day we are born.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Trust the science!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Read ordinary men and it will scare you how easily people can be manipulated coerced and even convinced to perform atrocities.

We barely understand the subconscious which seems to be the driving force for alot of the decisions we make

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By *ake_or_deathMan  over a year ago

Manchester

Stockholm Syndrome is not a thing, but the story behind how the theory was come up with is absolutely bizarre;

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stockholm-syndrome-meaning-bank-robbery-b2399531.html

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By *enSiskoMan  over a year ago

Cestus 3

Interesting subject.

I first thought it was bull, like the Columbo Episode with the subliminal cuts, that made the victim thirsty.

Then remote viewing by the CIA, thought it was bull.

Then Timothy McVay the man who blew up a CIA building saying he was controlled, yeh bull.

Then I saw Darren Brown, set up a robbery with 4 people who didn't know each other, influenced a guy to shoot Stephen Fry showing a little of how he did it.then I thought there maybe something in this.

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By *aitonelMan  over a year ago

Travelling

Control? No

Influence actions and outcomes, yes.

To achieve anything close to actual mind control would require intense sessions of conditioning and similar acts such as hypn0sis. Even then its less mind control and more extreme indoctrination.

(apparently you can't say hypn o)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It’s the capitalism. It gets you.

Not me though. I’m woke.

Stay woke brothers.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"It’s the capitalism. It gets you.

Not me though. I’m woke.

Stay woke brothers. "

Errrrr what about sisters and those who are neither?!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It’s the capitalism. It gets you.

Not me though. I’m woke.

Stay woke brothers.

Errrrr what about sisters and those who are neither?! "

what about them?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"It’s the capitalism. It gets you.

Not me though. I’m woke.

Stay woke brothers.

Errrrr what about sisters and those who are neither?! what about them? "

Inclusion, dude

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Every piece of marketing is designed to influence your decisions, same for news and media in general.

Some people are more susceptible to it than others."

Yes, you are right there that it is designed in such away and yes, some are more susceptible than others

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

[Removed by poster at 07/09/23 10:00:24]

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Behavioural psychologists/nudge units during COVID.Look how many people went along with that.Modelling policy outcomes rather than data driven strategy."
Yes. I also heard from few behavioral psychologists about that, how they were able to do it, about formations as well, it was interesting.

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By *ansoffateMan  over a year ago

Sagittarius A

You can do everything with bayonets, except sit on them. Napolean I believe.

Aldous Huxley gave an interview with Mike Wallace in the 50s. It was due to the stir his book 'Brave New World' created.

He made some fairly alarming predictions.

He stated that democracy relies upon individuals acting in their rational self-interest; however, political campaignists undermine this by influencing people on a subconscious level, in the same way that marketing and advertising does. Claiming that media and technology would one day reduce a political campaign to little more than a toothpaste commerical. In that sense democracy becomes nonsensical.

The system has become refined enough that the bayonets are no longer needed. The mind does not need to be contolled in some fantastical conspiracy theorist way. The people accept, perpetuate and at times even love 'a state of affairs that it really not ought to.' To mimic Alexander Berkman in the ABC of anarchism: 'Ahh but I hear you say: I am free I make the decisions that govern my life.' Yes but how much influence do you have in determining what the limits and boundaries of those choices are?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman  over a year ago

ashford

Absoulutley yes 100% had it done to me x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Resistance is futile…

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By *sleWightCoupleCouple  over a year ago

Ryde

For a good snapshot of Stockholm Syndrome and the way it can be used as an excuse for free-will-based actions, read up about the Patty Hearst k*dnapping, her subsequent crimes and the trial. The uber-privileged heiress' defence team pushed the narrative of Stockholm Syndrome/brainwashing to explain/excuse her gun-toting crimes, that she had been "turned" by her captors, only free of their grip once arrested and away from their direct influence. Her claim was that she only been pretended to go along with their actions through fear for her life, denouncing the Symbionese Liberation Army and everyone in it after breaking free.

The terrorist/bomb-making literature and love-tokens from her boyfriend in the SLA found on her long after said otherwise.

In some cases, including the Hearst saga, those who claim Stockholm Syndrome are often trying to excuse crimes originating from "Velcro Theory", which posits that shiftless, lost souls with anti-establishment leanings will float around in a moral vacuum and eventually attach themselves to the first radical ideology they brush against.

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

No utter rubbish

I'm off to buy a cola a new BMW and some Nike trainers on the way I'm off to join the conservative party.

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By *ansoffateMan  over a year ago

Sagittarius A


"No utter rubbish

I'm off to buy a cola a new BMW and some Nike trainers on the way I'm off to join the conservative party."

Eww a BMW how bourgeoisie

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By *enSiskoMan  over a year ago

Cestus 3


"I was watching an interesting program about it where they talked and gave many examples of it from the stockholm syndrome to the experiment in the 70s that was called the ashe where it was a conformity group experiment to see how one could be influenced by group pressure.

They also mentioned other things how the media is using subliminal messages and signs.

They also talked about how shops are doing the same things to try to buy their things.

I agree with them that it can be controlled, but of course it doesnt work on all people.

What is your view about it that your mind could be controlled? "

Had a think about this and remembered a programme I watched about violence it was on bbc4 it should be on the iplayer, so yes we are all controlled, for our own good it seems, have a watch it is relevant to this thread but goes further.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It’s the capitalism. It gets you.

Not me though. I’m woke.

Stay woke brothers.

Errrrr what about sisters and those who are neither?! what about them?

Inclusion, dude "

Inclusion?

Stay woke

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

Looked at my bank statement this morn, I buy junk food every two and a half weeks to the dot. I thought I was reasonable good so it time to cut back.

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"No utter rubbish

I'm off to buy a cola a new BMW and some Nike trainers on the way I'm off to join the conservative party.

Eww a BMW how bourgeoisie"

I dunno I was watching TV and the adverts came on next thing I'm signing up to buy a new beemer.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman  over a year ago

Reading

Totally. We are being influenced from the moment we are born.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Totally. We are being influenced from the moment we are born. "

Nonsense I was born believing that fat bodies are undesirable!!!

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By *ansoffateMan  over a year ago

Sagittarius A


"No utter rubbish

I'm off to buy a cola a new BMW and some Nike trainers on the way I'm off to join the conservative party.

Eww a BMW how bourgeoisie

I dunno I was watching TV and the adverts came on next thing I'm signing up to buy a new beemer."

Take a soma.. take two. Let it wash your cares away.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

[Removed by poster at 07/09/23 14:04:59]

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"The key to a functioning society is getting people to believe they have freedom whilst being controlled. This applies to all aspects of live, our thoughts are manipulated from the day we are born."
Yes, you are right there freedom is an illusion

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By *ansoffateMan  over a year ago

Sagittarius A


"The key to a functioning society is getting people to believe they have freedom whilst being controlled. This applies to all aspects of live, our thoughts are manipulated from the day we are born.Yes, you are right there freedom is an illusion "

I think the big question is the degree to which it is done to us and the degree to which we do it to ourselves.

I recall Foccault and Chomsky debating that one quite furiously.

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By *MisschiefxTV/TS  over a year ago

London

People have a hard time accepting how easy they are to manipulate.

Ironically the more someone believes they can't be influences by propaganda the easier they are to manipulate.

There's some really interesting psychology behind it. Your brain tricks you into thinking it was your idea and will create a narrative for you to believe to explain how it was your idea.

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By *trueceltMan  over a year ago

Bristol

The human brain is famously susceptible to the influence of certain shapes. Such things are used in marketing and advertising campaigns pretty much everywhere. A quick internet search for why Starbucks, McDonald's and Nike use those particular logos should be enough for you to see what I mean. If you are even more interested search for 'sacred geometry'.

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By *ynecplCouple  over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

The human mind is easily influenced by many different things. If we couldnt be influenced there wouldn't be the need to advertising.

There is a brilliant candid camera episode from the 50s on YouTube that shows how easily we can be influence. It was just a bit of fun with a guy getting into a crowded lift but it shows just how susceptible we are to things such as peer pressure.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"The key to a functioning society is getting people to believe they have freedom whilst being controlled. This applies to all aspects of live, our thoughts are manipulated from the day we are born.Yes, you are right there freedom is an illusion

I think the big question is the degree to which it is done to us and the degree to which we do it to ourselves.

I recall Foccault and Chomsky debating that one quite furiously."

Yes, that it is the big question and as well and as well why they are doing it.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

The expert also mentioned how they use hollowood to create movies to

condition our minds with carefully planning the movies accordingly, so that we get desensitised from certain happenings and situations in real life.

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By *ansoffateMan  over a year ago

Sagittarius A


"The key to a functioning society is getting people to believe they have freedom whilst being controlled. This applies to all aspects of live, our thoughts are manipulated from the day we are born.Yes, you are right there freedom is an illusion

I think the big question is the degree to which it is done to us and the degree to which we do it to ourselves.

I recall Foccault and Chomsky debating that one quite furiously.Yes, that it is the big question and as well and as well why they are doing it."

Indeed... I can't answer that one for you. I gave up tormenting myself thinking about people 'in the group sense'. After I read Audre Lorde. Now I am interested in the motivations of the individual. Dissolving the part of the oppressor within myself. If there is any observable commonality it is the need for love and acceptance. I suspect it is that which is being manipulated.

Although, I did watch a speech by Angela Davis a couple of weeks ago. She said something along the lines of.

'why are we no longer talking about class, about wealth inequality and the social issues that creates? See look at how awkward the room has become just at the mention of the word.'

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By *icolerobbieCouple  over a year ago

walsall

People are very easily controlled, especially weak minded people.

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By *uddy laneMan  over a year ago

dudley

If the carrot is pleasing people will follow

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By *.T.Man  over a year ago

Glasgow

Just have a look atbsome of the profiles on fab.

Some have been crafted to entice people in and can often be a million miles away from what the actual person is like.

My point would be not that the person writing the profile is trying to coerce people to meet them, more that they have been controlled in a manner (herded like sheep?) to present themselves in such a way that is deemed to be sucessful.

We are conditioned to present ourselves in the best light possible because being brutally honest would result in failure.

(My profile is testament to that).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I reckon so yes. Look at the amount of people invested in the game of football. A very good distraction away from worrying or thinking about things that actually matter. Put the footie on and all forgotten.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I do believe that conformity groups are controlling.

Groups at work at clique.. Same here. I am not a control freak in anyway shape or form.

Politicians control us even

Cost of living is a conformity too of being state controlling op

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

When we say they control us, who do we mean? Do we mean the globalists, the government, media, or the news, or something else?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"When we say they control us, who do we mean? Do we mean the globalists, the government, media, or the news, or something else? "

I was about to ask the same question Shag. Who are 'they'?

A very small example of controlling how people think and act can be seen on any internet forum. If a popular member posts early on with an opinion almost all the following posts will agree with them even if it's possible to look back and see examples of them posting the opposite.

'they' can be parents, teachers, religious leaders or just the popular girl or boy at school. Often bullies are pretty good at manipulation of people's minds

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple  over a year ago

Leeds

Your mind it already controlled.

Did you get vaccinated ?

Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ?

Are you religious ?

Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ?

Do you obey the law ?

Can you drive on the left side of the road ?

Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ?

But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you.

Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it.

The mr

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Most of the world succumbs to mind control, it is a technique called religion

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By *ersiantugMan  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Most of the world succumbs to mind control, it is a technique called religion

"

You mean organised religions surely? They will tend to manipulate people, for the better they'll say.

But merely believing in a 'divine beginning' as the answer to "how can anything exist?" - or even just having a particular Faith - they are not necessarily being under mind control.

pt

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Totally. We are being influenced from the moment we are born. "
Yes, you are right there, that we are influenced from the moment we are born as well

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By *ersiantugMan  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Your mind it already controlled.

Did you get vaccinated ?

Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ?

Are you religious ?

Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ?

Do you obey the law ?

Can you drive on the left side of the road ?

Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ?

But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you.

Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it.

The mr

"

-Clearly you are the one who's been mind-controlled here. Forget about the very nature of science (ie the *overwhelming* consensus from the entire global scientific community), you have decided covid-19 was a cold. But *how* did you get to that conclusion may I ask?

And I personally think about all on your 'list' before accepting those things or not. Who are you to say nobody (else ) does that?

And of course you exempt yourself regarding covid, and much else on your list no doubt. Such egotism! And such ignorance regarding the pandemic too.

Yet again in our history, courageous people died to save the lives of the ignorant. I spoke to a woman yesterday who's friend tragically lost two colleagues, both close friends (ie two nurses) to this virus. Medical staff (not always super healthy but always hard working) lost the most young working people.

Hospitals were inundated (both worked in a new purpose-built ward that was built), and largely due to terminally slow governance when it mattered, only the eventual vaccines (which were only even enforced for a few, but fortunately take by many) managed to control the situation in the end, keep that r number down, and allowed us to finally get back on the road.

Honestly, this is so gross you may as well be saying the Blackout was mind control.

The people who observed were utter heroes.

And everyone is weak at some point in their lives! (I wasn't well at the time it came).

Why do so many people think they are so selectively tough?

And to cap it all, ALL of this embarrassingly empty pseudoscience and 'post-truth' is ENTIRELY 'off the top of the phone'!

Yet people have the gall to talk about 'mind control'!

Mobile phones (and the likes of QAnon and Andrew Tate) have actually proven how terrifyingly easy it is to control the weak-minded yet horribly cynical people of this world.

If it wasn't for maths and science you wouldn't own your damn phone! We got them way before the world was ready in my view. Largely through hyper-exploitation to make them affordable, as what makes up their components is mined often-dangerously for a pittance from all over the globe. They are technologically astonishing and we simply do not deserve them. There are days I would take them off some people I swear.

Love and peace to all who died and lost.

pt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can’t control it, they have no fucking chance.

I feel like chicken tonight, like…

Oh bugger

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By *ersiantugMan  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Put the footie on and all forgotten.

"

I know it's bliss! pt

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By *r TriomanMan  over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

You only need to look at the Virus Forum to answer this question.

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

If COVID taught us anything, it’s most people are desperate to be told what to do and very compliant and believe authority, media, marketing.

But are also suffering mass-cynicism, (as predicted long ago) holding everything as a potential lie so when those in charge are found out, they say we never beloved you anyway.

So yes and no

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Most of the world succumbs to mind control, it is a technique called religion

You mean organised religions surely? They will tend to manipulate people, for the better they'll say.

But merely believing in a 'divine beginning' as the answer to "how can anything exist?" - or even just having a particular Faith - they are not necessarily being under mind control.

pt"

Most people don’t differentiate religion from faith.

Religion , science , government and most media are very similar - people believing what they have read or been told by others, but not experienced directly themselves.

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By *ersiantugMan  over a year ago

Cardiff


"Most of the world succumbs to mind control, it is a technique called religion

You mean organised religions surely? They will tend to manipulate people, for the better they'll say.

But merely believing in a 'divine beginning' as the answer to "how can anything exist?" - or even just having a particular Faith - they are not necessarily being under mind control.

pt

Most people don’t differentiate religion from faith.

"

I really don't think that's true actually (ie in the differentiating and perhaps even 'spiritual' sense I alluded to), not in modern times anyway.

In the UK less than 50% affiliate with a religion now, yet over half of believes in a maker.

A lot of people are calling themselves 'agnostic' these days too, as atheism feels like a religion too sometimes. Certain aspect of various doctrine aside, the truth is very obviously that we Don't Know, and any disagreement over 'Moment-0' doesn't ultimately effect science etc, so what does it matter?

pt

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By *ldgeezermeMan  over a year ago

Newcastle


"Your mind it already controlled.

Did you get vaccinated ?

Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ?

Are you religious ?

Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ?

Do you obey the law ?

Can you drive on the left side of the road ?

Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ?

But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you.

Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it.

The mr "

How do you know?

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By *ersiantugMan  over a year ago

Cardiff


"If COVID taught us anything, it’s most people are desperate to be told what to do and very compliant and believe authority, media, marketing.

"

That is incredibly judgemental.

I saw huge disagreement and millions of justly worried people - ALL of whom were looking for answers!!

Like most people fortunately, I was happy with the answers I found, so I observed.

Because I know when to switch my cynicism on and off as it is governed purely by the evidence available, and I filter it through rational and not cynical thought.

And also I was reading about this coronavirus disease since Feb 2020, maybe even Jan - before our tardy governments even got properly involved!

Why are people so judgemental?

pt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If COVID taught us anything, it’s most people are desperate to be told what to do and very compliant and believe authority, media, marketing.

That is incredibly judgemental.

I saw huge disagreement and millions of justly worried people - ALL of whom were looking for answers!!

Like most people fortunately, I was happy with the answers I found, so I observed.

Because I know when to switch my cynicism on and off as it is governed purely by the evidence available, and I filter it through rational and not cynical thought.

And also I was reading about this coronavirus disease since Feb 2020, maybe even Jan - before our tardy governments even got properly involved!

Why are people so judgemental?

pt

"

I was reading about it 2019 saw that the john hopkins centre did preparation scenario.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

BBC is very controlled media. Controlled programmes.

I like freeview.. Freedom of choice to watch what I like.

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By *mf123Man  over a year ago

with one foot out the door

The heart of any religion

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By *ersiantugMan  over a year ago

Cardiff


"If COVID taught us anything, it’s most people are desperate to be told what to do and very compliant and believe authority, media, marketing.

That is incredibly judgemental.

I saw huge disagreement and millions of justly worried people - ALL of whom were looking for answers!!

Like most people fortunately, I was happy with the answers I found, so I observed.

Because I know when to switch my cynicism on and off as it is governed purely by the evidence available, and I filter it through rational and not cynical thought.

And also I was reading about this coronavirus disease since Feb 2020, maybe even Jan - before our tardy governments even got properly involved!

Why are people so judgemental?

pt

I was reading about it 2019 saw that the john hopkins centre did preparation scenario.

"

-They did that in 2019 you mean. I think our antisocial government have ignored more than one test scenario in this area. Then when it finally comes it's all about giving the contracts as start-ups to their school connections - contracts where we have to now wait months until they are fulfilled. The Tories will certainly have seen any future pandemic as a slowly-slowly, tread carefully money spinner.

We still needed to observe it though!

pt

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"When we say they control us, who do we mean? Do we mean the globalists, the government, media, or the news, or something else?

I was about to ask the same question Shag. Who are 'they'?

A very small example of controlling how people think and act can be seen on any internet forum. If a popular member posts early on with an opinion almost all the following posts will agree with them even if it's possible to look back and see examples of them posting the opposite.

'they' can be parents, teachers, religious leaders or just the popular girl or boy at school. Often bullies are pretty good at manipulation of people's minds"

Yes, that is a good question, there seem to be a thing going around that the 5 richest families in the world have an influence and orchestrating of what is happening, to name few of them, rockefeller and rothschild, yes. I have also noticed that on the internet forums as well

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By *aucasian GhandiMan  over a year ago

from my dad's left nut (Warwick)


"Behavioural psychologists/nudge units during COVID.Look how many people went along with that.Modelling policy outcomes rather than data driven strategy."

Conformity theory will go along way to explain this rather well.

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By *tylebender03Man  over a year ago

Manchester

About 90% of the population is controlled/conditioned

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Behavioural psychologists/nudge units during COVID.Look how many people went along with that.Modelling policy outcomes rather than data driven strategy.Yes. I also heard from few behavioral psychologists about that, how they were able to do it, about formations as well, it was interesting."
The term is called mass formation psycosis.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is there such a thing as lockdown Stockholm syndrome for all those who had been brainwashed by the media and mass manipulation.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"When we say they control us, who do we mean? Do we mean the globalists, the government, media, or the news, or something else?

I was about to ask the same question Shag. Who are 'they'?

A very small example of controlling how people think and act can be seen on any internet forum. If a popular member posts early on with an opinion almost all the following posts will agree with them even if it's possible to look back and see examples of them posting the opposite.

'they' can be parents, teachers, religious leaders or just the popular girl or boy at school. Often bullies are pretty good at manipulation of people's mindsYes, that is a good question, there seem to be a thing going around that the 5 richest families in the world have an influence and orchestrating of what is happening, to name few of them, rockefeller and rothschild, yes. I have also noticed that on the internet forums as well "

Bingo!

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By *ersiantugMan  over a year ago

Cardiff

Thinking of religion, anyone ever read Alexander Pope? Even in essays he writes like a dream.

A little learning is a dang'rous thing;

Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:

There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,

And drinking largely sobers us again.

There needs to be a Fabswingers Piss-up from the cup of knowledge if you ask me.

Or maybe some of us should just lay off the cheap stuff I dunno pt

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By *ex HolesMan  over a year ago

Up North

Tinfoil hats should do the trick

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"The key to a functioning society is getting people to believe they have freedom whilst being controlled. This applies to all aspects of live, our thoughts are manipulated from the day we are born.Yes, you are right there freedom is an illusion

I think the big question is the degree to which it is done to us and the degree to which we do it to ourselves.

I recall Foccault and Chomsky debating that one quite furiously.Yes, that it is the big question and as well and as well why they are doing it.

Indeed... I can't answer that one for you. I gave up tormenting myself thinking about people 'in the group sense'. After I read Audre Lorde. Now I am interested in the motivations of the individual. Dissolving the part of the oppressor within myself. If there is any observable commonality it is the need for love and acceptance. I suspect it is that which is being manipulated.

Although, I did watch a speech by Angela Davis a couple of weeks ago. She said something along the lines of.

'why are we no longer talking about class, about wealth inequality and the social issues that creates? See look at how awkward the room has become just at the mention of the word.'"

Yes. I havent heard about audre lorde, it seems interesting and that is right, it seems to have become awkward too

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Your mind it already controlled.

Did you get vaccinated ?

Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ?

Are you religious ?

Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ?

Do you obey the law ?

Can you drive on the left side of the road ?

Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ?

But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you.

Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it.

The mr "

Yes, you are right there, many dont even know it and I also agree that the mind is very easily controlled too

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By *ldgeezermeMan  over a year ago

Newcastle


"Your mind it already controlled.

Did you get vaccinated ?

Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ?

Are you religious ?

Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ?

Do you obey the law ?

Can you drive on the left side of the road ?

Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ?

But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you.

Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it.

The mr Yes, you are right there, many dont even know it and I also agree that the mind is very easily controlled too "

Hold on, he said everyone's controlled but you're saying it's not everyone

Try googling Third Party Effect

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By *inda May SimmonsTV/TS  over a year ago

hexham


"I was watching an interesting program about it where they talked and gave many examples of it from the stockholm syndrome to the experiment in the 70s that was called the ashe where it was a conformity group experiment to see how one could be influenced by group pressure.

They also mentioned other things how the media is using subliminal messages and signs.

They also talked about how shops are doing the same things to try to buy their things.

I agree with them that it can be controlled, but of course it doesnt work on all people.

What is your view about it that your mind could be controlled? "

Read Yuval Noah Harari.

His latest two books on sapiens and twenty one lessons for the 21st century, are great insights into humanity as a race and poses huge about the individual.

I guess we are just not very special, but we do experience love… that is very important, I think… Lennon and McCarney certainly thought so!

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By *inda May SimmonsTV/TS  over a year ago

hexham


"I was watching an interesting program about it where they talked and gave many examples of it from the stockholm syndrome to the experiment in the 70s that was called the ashe where it was a conformity group experiment to see how one could be influenced by group pressure.

They also mentioned other things how the media is using subliminal messages and signs.

They also talked about how shops are doing the same things to try to buy their things.

I agree with them that it can be controlled, but of course it doesnt work on all people.

What is your view about it that your mind could be controlled?

Read Yuval Noah Harari.

His latest two books on sapiens and twenty one lessons for the 21st century, are great insights into humanity as a race and poses huge about the individual.

I guess we are just not very special, but we do experience love… that is very important, I think… Lennon and McCarney certainly thought so! "

POSES HUGE QUESTIONS !!! Sorry

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"I was watching an interesting program about it where they talked and gave many examples of it from the stockholm syndrome to the experiment in the 70s that was called the ashe where it was a conformity group experiment to see how one could be influenced by group pressure.

They also mentioned other things how the media is using subliminal messages and signs.

They also talked about how shops are doing the same things to try to buy their things.

I agree with them that it can be controlled, but of course it doesnt work on all people.

What is your view about it that your mind could be controlled? "

I think that there is a massive difference between "Mind Control" and influence. The things described here are influence rather than control. Most of these techniques only work on certain types of people.

Cal

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By *asycouple1971Couple  over a year ago

midlands

We are all being controlled one way or another.

Controlled by laws, price of goods, media etc

It will only get worse as we become more compliant.

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"We are all being controlled one way or another.

Controlled by laws, price of goods, media etc

It will only get worse as we become more compliant. "

Not really being "controlled"! Restricted by laws and price of goods, and directed by the media (including conspiracy channels)... if you choose to take part.

Cal

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By *ickdasterdly51Man  over a year ago

Lingfield

I think the rise of Nazi Germany is the biggest example of mind control and influence. It's scary the amount of 'good Germans' who turned a blind eye to the persecution of their Jewish friends and neighbours. Likewise what went on in Syria under the barbaric role of ISIS.

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By *2000ManMan  over a year ago

Worthing

I always go to shops with a list and never move from that.

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By *oecutterMan  over a year ago

Clonakilty


"Your mind it already controlled.

Did you get vaccinated ?

Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ?

Are you religious ?

Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ?

Do you obey the law ?

Can you drive on the left side of the road ?

Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ?

But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you.

Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it.

The mr "

Everyone except you, right?

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Your mind it already controlled.

Did you get vaccinated ?

Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ?

Are you religious ?

Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ?

Do you obey the law ?

Can you drive on the left side of the road ?

Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ?

But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you.

Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it.

The mr

Everyone except you, right? "

No.... "they" made him say that

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By *oecutterMan  over a year ago

Clonakilty


"

Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it.

The mr

Everyone except you, right?

No.... "they" made him say that"

It’s endlessly amusing how everyone else is a sheep except them, cuz they’re Awake.

It’s like the vast majority of drivers believe they’re above average.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man  over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Interesting subject.

I first thought it was bull, like the Columbo Episode with the subliminal cuts, that made the victim thirsty.

Then remote viewing by the CIA, thought it was bull.

Then Timothy McVay the man who blew up a CIA building saying he was controlled, yeh bull.

Then I saw Darren Brown, set up a robbery with 4 people who didn't know each other, influenced a guy to shoot Stephen Fry showing a little of how he did it.then I thought there maybe something in this."

Yes, it is interesting too. I like darren brown and I have also seen some of his set ups doing those things.

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By *ldgeezermeMan  over a year ago

Newcastle


"Interesting subject.

I first thought it was bull, like the Columbo Episode with the subliminal cuts, that made the victim thirsty.

Then remote viewing by the CIA, thought it was bull.

Then Timothy McVay the man who blew up a CIA building saying he was controlled, yeh bull.

Then I saw Darren Brown, set up a robbery with 4 people who didn't know each other, influenced a guy to shoot Stephen Fry showing a little of how he did it.then I thought there maybe something in this."

You think Derren Brown is capable of influencing people to commit robbery and murder?

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple  over a year ago

Leeds


"Your mind it already controlled.

Did you get vaccinated ?

Do you get up every morning and pay your tax without question ?

Are you religious ?

Are items people want you to buy paraded infront of your face until you buy it ?

Do you obey the law ?

Can you drive on the left side of the road ?

Can you drive at 40 in a 30 ?

But the one that proved it the most was. Did you stay in your house for 6 mouths when they told you a cold would kill you.

Everyone is controlled and they don’t even know it.

The mr

Everyone except you, right? "

No I am controlled, I pay my taxes and be a good little sheep like the rest of us, I’m not stupid you play by the rules or they take your so called freedom away.

The mr

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Pfffttt been happening for thousands of years the elite rich controlling the masses either by intimidation or propaganda.

The only difference today is that the little people have a voice in the form of social media and the internet to spread information/misinformation this can be very easily manipulated one way or another depending on your agenda.

This can still be controlled you only have to look at north Korea.

So all these "enlightened"individuals who claim to know the "truth" it's nothing new guy's you just have a search engine available to add data/false data to your opinion.

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