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No not that kind of BBC.
Is British Broadcastin Corp licence fee worth it. Personally, I think programmes like Documentaries (such as Africa), Panorama, News, etc., make it worth it's weight in gold and of course, no ads.
Or should it compete in the commercial world?
Your thoughts ladies and gentlemen.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Not worth it one bit. I really begrudge paying for a channel that I haven't watched for years. It should go to a pay per view channel so those who wanted to pay £3 a week could, but I certainly wouldn't. |
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"Not worth it one bit. I really begrudge paying for a channel that I haven't watched for years. It should go to a pay per view channel so those who wanted to pay £3 a week could, but I certainly wouldn't. "
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
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They make many good programmes. They should tone down the political propaganda though about "global warming" and the EU. If they don't they should have to go to a pay-per-view model so that those wanting biassed journalism can have all they want.
I am not taxed when I choose to buy a newspaper. Why should I be taxed to watch TV? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have no problem for paying for the things I view on tv. I do have a problem with being forced by law to have pay for a corporation just because I own a tv. I have never in my life payed a licence and never will. If I ever get caught I would honestly take my case all the way to Europe as I think they'd consider it illegal. With the technology today in sure it not beyond the realms of possibility to be able to opt out from viewing the bbc on your tv x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Why are we forced to pay the license fee though, why are you given a criminal record for not paying it.
If I went to a restaurant and got charged for a pizza but didn't have one I would be pissed off.
I never watch the BBC so why on earth should I pay for it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's a rip off that we have to pay them for a t v license - i really resent paying it - Z"
the licence fee is a tax on televisions. If you don't like it don't own a TV and you won't have to pay.
When asking a foreigner what they think is best about Britain, do you think they say the monarchy? Or London busses? No, it's the BBC which broadcasts reliable impartial news to the world. Only an idiot would want to get rid of something which truely is the envy of the world. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"I never watch the BBC so why on earth should I pay for it. "
I know two people with TVs who have proved that they only use them for watching DVDs, so don't have to pay the license fee. Maybe give them a ring and see about that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes generally when you break it down over the year its not bad. Merlin alone well worth it plus documentaries etc. Its not perfect but more diwn to managenent really. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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don't begrudge paying it at all... they have a public service remit that wouldn't be satisfied otherwise...
bbc radio.. both national and local, stuff like the bbc science and natural history unit.... bbc drama and documentries, bbc childrens unit for example..... |
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"It's a rip off that we have to pay them for a t v license - i really resent paying it - Z the licence fee is a tax on televisions. If you don't like it don't own a TV and you won't have to pay.
When asking a foreigner what they think is best about Britain, do you think they say the monarchy? Or London busses? No, it's the BBC which broadcasts reliable impartial news to the world. Only an idiot would want to get rid of something which truely is the envy of the world."
Ah yes.... BBC World Service - has over 180 listeners around the globe. Truly, a national treasure! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's a rip off that we have to pay them for a t v license - i really resent paying it - Z the licence fee is a tax on televisions. If you don't like it don't own a TV and you won't have to pay.
When asking a foreigner what they think is best about Britain, do you think they say the monarchy? Or London busses? No, it's the BBC which broadcasts reliable impartial news to the world. Only an idiot would want to get rid of something which truely is the envy of the world."
The BBC news is anything but impartial, and its a bit harsh calling people idiots because they don't share your choice of viewing. |
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By *xpresMan
over a year ago
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I cant belive people bitch n moan about the tv license bbc1,2,3,4,hd plus the bbc online n red button radio 1,2,3,4,1extra,asain network 6music, 4 extra n 5live 909... £3 a week. Its a bargain im sure i forgot a couple of chanels on the radio |
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"I cant belive people bitch n moan about the tv license bbc1,2,3,4,hd plus the bbc online n red button radio 1,2,3,4,1extra,asain network 6music, 4 extra n 5live 909... £3 a week. Its a bargain im sure i forgot a couple of chanels on the radio"
Being the middle-class git I am, I listen to the Today programme on radio 4 going to work and I'd happily pay £3 a week just to listen to John Humphries making politicians squirm  |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
Spain, Lancs |
People should know that the BBC is angling to be able to issue licences for computers. They want to charge you to have a computer on the basis that the iPlayer means you can watch BBC output on your comp.
Still like it? |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"People should know that the BBC is angling to be able to issue licences for computers. They want to charge you to have a computer on the basis that the iPlayer means you can watch BBC output on your comp.
Still like it?"
Source? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I cant belive people bitch n moan about the tv license bbc1,2,3,4,hd plus the bbc online n red button radio 1,2,3,4,1extra,asain network 6music, 4 extra n 5live 909... £3 a week. Its a bargain im sure i forgot a couple of chanels on the radio"
What if you don't use any of those channels ?
When I go in a pub I only have a glass of wine. I know there is lager, bitter and spirits in there but I don't have them so I don't pay for them.
The same applies to the BBC, I don't use it so shouldn't pay for it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have no problem for paying for the things I view on tv. I do have a problem with being forced by law to have pay for a corporation just because I own a tv. I have never in my life payed a licence and never will. If I ever get caught I would honestly take my case all the way to Europe as I think they'd consider it illegal. With the technology today in sure it not beyond the realms of possibility to be able to opt out from viewing the bbc on your tv x"
If you only watch on demand services including the BBC !!!!!! You don't need a tv license!!!!
Had loads of threatening letters through the post telling me I had to go to coart and I just ignored them ! After a couple of months an inspector arrived at my door ..... I told him I didn't need one as I don't watch live tv ... He had a look in the front room saw the computer under the telivision said ok and left ....did say would be inspected in 12 months  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The beeb tv licence is overpriced but its good and couldn't do without them. Id hate to have adverts during topgear or dr Cox. Beeb always has best documentries and of course MOTD |
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"People should know that the BBC is angling to be able to issue licences for computers. They want to charge you to have a computer on the basis that the iPlayer means you can watch BBC output on your comp.
Still like it?"
yes.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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they make you pay for youre radio aswell it's a scam they make a bomb out of tv licencing every year thers 56 million people in britan or there arround and its about £150 a year for the licence itv and channel 4 dont make that on advertising a year and if you by a t.v from asda they make you set up a tv licence before they will sell you one there just a big of a scam as the banks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You think the Barrier built its bloody self.
No Barrier no London, it really is that simple."
And you think none of the Londoners tax money goes north ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I cant belive people bitch n moan about the tv license bbc1,2,3,4,hd plus the bbc online n red button radio 1,2,3,4,1extra,asain network 6music, 4 extra n 5live 909... £3 a week. Its a bargain im sure i forgot a couple of chanels on the radio
Being the middle-class git I am, I listen to the Today programme on radio 4 going to work and I'd happily pay £3 a week just to listen to John Humphries making politicians squirm "
You bloody boring old fart!! Lol
....... Yes my hands up I love Radio 4 and Tv channels pretty good. Even my daughter turned off ITV morning programme in disgust this morning out of preference for BBC1. Such a good girl |
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"I cant belive people bitch n moan about the tv license bbc1,2,3,4,hd plus the bbc online n red button radio 1,2,3,4,1extra,asain network 6music, 4 extra n 5live 909... £3 a week. Its a bargain im sure i forgot a couple of chanels on the radio
Being the middle-class git I am, I listen to the Today programme on radio 4 going to work and I'd happily pay £3 a week just to listen to John Humphries making politicians squirm
You bloody boring old fart!! Lol
....... Yes my hands up I love Radio 4 and Tv channels pretty good. Even my daughter turned off ITV morning programme in disgust this morning out of preference for BBC1. Such a good girl "
You two outlaws!!! One day, the Sheriff of Brighton will come and deal with you both. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Same analogy of course.  "
And without London you wouldn't have your precious fools and horses that you are willing to pay £3 a week for the rest of your life for. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You think the Barrier built its bloody self.
No Barrier no London, it really is that simple.
And you think none of the Londoners tax money goes north ? "
yes and northern money goes south it's just moore money goes down london from the north than the south send back up |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You think the Barrier built its bloody self.
No Barrier no London, it really is that simple.
And you think none of the Londoners tax money goes north ?
yes and northern money goes south it's just moore money goes down london from the north than the south send back up "
I think we have slightly swayed from the original post here.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Surely the fact that you have no choice in paying whether you watch or not must annoy people. It's exactly the same as making tsomeone who doesn't own a car pay car tax. I'd go to jail before I payed a tv licence x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You think the Barrier built its bloody self.
No Barrier no London, it really is that simple.
And you think none of the Londoners tax money goes north ?
yes and northern money goes south it's just moore money goes down london from the north than the south send back up
I think we have slightly swayed from the original post here.
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just a bit haha |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"don't begrudge paying it at all... they have a public service remit that wouldn't be satisfied otherwise...
bbc radio.. both national and local, stuff like the bbc science and natural history unit.... bbc drama and documentries, bbc childrens unit for example....."
The last bastion of decent, unbiased, upright, high moral, provider of public services, Jimmy could fix anything !
Bunch out out of touch, unaccountable, corrupt, in some cases, perverted megalamaniac arseholes, do i object to keeping this corporation of shame in funds, you bet your bollocks I do  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Surely the fact that you have no choice in paying whether you watch or not must annoy people. It's exactly the same as making tsomeone who doesn't own a car pay car tax. I'd go to jail before I payed a tv licence x"
This is exactly my point. Those that think its good value can pay it , those that don't shouldn't have to pay it.
It's shocking that you are forced to pay it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The think the BBC is the finest broadcasting organisation in the world (no I don't work for them). You have all the TV channels producing 1st rate programmes, local and national radio stations bring a service that is second to none (not the same records continually played over and over as on the commercial stations), their web site that knocks spots off any other broadcaster's web site and Tony Blackburn (oh perhaps not all good then) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ok here goes...
I don't agree with the TV licence which for a £145 is a complete rip off. You don't actually need a tv licence, how so!!
Well only if you watch live broadcasts then you need a tv licence, but if you wait an hour then you watch any program on catch up therefore negating the need for a tv licence.
There is not a programme that you cannot watch later. Capita who are the company the BBC employ for £500.000 000 a year are the ones who enforce the tv licencing. They have as much power as a car room salesman, in fact he probably has more. They cannot enter your property nor do you have to answer any of their stupid questions, why incriminate yourself by answering their questions. If they get persistant then tell them you are withdrawing their right of access to your property, then the only way they can legally come onto your property is with a warrant.
Don't believe me then google it, or you tube it. They are a complete rip off. I called them and cancelled mine they tried to tell me I needed a licence to which I informed them that I dont watch live broadcasts nor do I have any interest in watching live tv, strangely enough they agreed with me. I could bang on about it all night but won't suffice to say You Do Not Need a TV Licence.  |
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By *xscotMan
over a year ago
Kingston |
and one point -
did you hear that Sky made over 1Billion pounds profit last year - that is more than the BBC raises in licence fees
- most of that is raised by the rip of charges they make for sport |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"and one point -
did you hear that Sky made over 1Billion pounds profit last year - that is more than the BBC raises in licence fees
- most of that is raised by the rip of charges they make for sport "
But sky is pay per view. If you don't like it don't pay it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok here goes...
I don't agree with the TV licence which for a £145 is a complete rip off. You don't actually need a tv licence, how so!!
Well only if you watch live broadcasts then you need a tv licence, but if you wait an hour then you watch any program on catch up therefore negating the need for a tv licence.
There is not a programme that you cannot watch later. Capita who are the company the BBC employ for £500.000 000 a year are the ones who enforce the tv licencing. They have as much power as a car room salesman, in fact he probably has more. They cannot enter your property nor do you have to answer any of their stupid questions, why incriminate yourself by answering their questions. If they get persistant then tell them you are withdrawing their right of access to your property, then the only way they can legally come onto your property is with a warrant.
Don't believe me then google it, or you tube it. They are a complete rip off. I called them and cancelled mine they tried to tell me I needed a licence to which I informed them that I dont watch live broadcasts nor do I have any interest in watching live tv, strangely enough they agreed with me. I could bang on about it all night but won't suffice to say You Do Not Need a TV Licence. "
revolution |
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"and one point -
did you hear that Sky made over 1Billion pounds profit last year - that is more than the BBC raises in licence fees
- most of that is raised by the rip of charges they make for sport
But sky is pay per view. If you don't like it don't pay it. "
Exactly......although that fact often goes clean over some peoples heads.
Sky is a business, with MASSIVE investments in high risk technology and programming, but people still think they should be getting it for Tuppence a week.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Just to give you a flavour of the BBC and their morals, My mother who is an OAP with very little money fell behind with two monthly payments and was absolutely scared to death after recieving a letter telling her she could be fined upto a £1000 if she did not make payment.
They then called her and she explained that she is really struggling for money and will try to make it up, the guy on the phone threatened her with court and told her that all her goods could be seized and get this told her that why doesnt she borrow the money to pay the licence. When she told them she could not borrow the money he said then why don't you go to a loan company for it.
to sum them up, they are nothing more than a bunch of sheisters who have been ripping the public off for many years, lying about detector vans etc. Why should you pay your hard earned money to them for what to give all their directors massive pay rises. People you are being ripped off.  |
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"Just to give you a flavour of the BBC and their morals, My mother who is an OAP with very little money fell behind with two monthly payments and was absolutely scared to death after recieving a letter telling her she could be fined upto a £1000 if she did not make payment.
They then called her and she explained that she is really struggling for money and will try to make it up, the guy on the phone threatened her with court and told her that all her goods could be seized and get this told her that why doesnt she borrow the money to pay the licence. When she told them she could not borrow the money he said then why don't you go to a loan company for it.
to sum them up, they are nothing more than a bunch of sheisters who have been ripping the public off for many years, lying about detector vans etc. Why should you pay your hard earned money to them for what to give all their directors massive pay rises. People you are being ripped off. "
The BBC called your mother? |
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By *xscotMan
over a year ago
Kingston |
"and one point -
did you hear that Sky made over 1Billion pounds profit last year - that is more than the BBC raises in licence fees
- most of that is raised by the rip of charges they make for sport
But sky is pay per view. If you don't like it don't pay it.
the BBC is also making massive investments in technology - and however when you look at their capital investment it is less than 5% of their revenue
Exactly......although that fact often goes clean over some peoples heads.
Sky is a business, with MASSIVE investments in high risk technology and programming, but people still think they should be getting it for Tuppence a week...."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It was Capita who enforce the TV Licence they called her demanding the money. My Mother is 70 yr old, got cancer and probably won't be around for too much longer, this was all explained to the guy on the phone but he was as sympathetic as a fart in a synagogue |
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"It was Capita who enforce the TV Licence they called her demanding the money. My Mother is 70 yr old, got cancer and probably won't be around for too much longer, this was all explained to the guy on the phone but he was as sympathetic as a fart in a synagogue"
Thought OAP did not have to pay a license fee. Or am I wrong? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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When you reach the dizzy heights of 75yrs then you get it free, but they are trying to up it to 80yrs. Even the blind are charged for a tv licence, they can hear it but can't watch it yet still have to pay for a licence now where is the sense in that. |
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By *xscotMan
over a year ago
Kingston |
"and one point -
did you hear that Sky made over 1Billion pounds profit last year - that is more than the BBC raises in licence fees
- most of that is raised by the rip of charges they make for sport
But sky is pay per view. If you don't like it don't pay it.
the BBC is also making massive investments in technology - and however when you look at their capital investment it is less than 5% of their revenue
Exactly......although that fact often goes clean over some peoples heads.
Sky is a business, with MASSIVE investments in high risk technology and programming, but people still think they should be getting it for Tuppence a week...."
the BBC is also making massive investments in technology - and however when you look at the capital investment of sky it is less than 5% of their revenue |
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"and one point -
did you hear that Sky made over 1Billion pounds profit last year - that is more than the BBC raises in licence fees
- most of that is raised by the rip of charges they make for sport
But sky is pay per view. If you don't like it don't pay it.
the BBC is also making massive investments in technology - and however when you look at their capital investment it is less than 5% of their revenue
Exactly......although that fact often goes clean over some peoples heads.
Sky is a business, with MASSIVE investments in high risk technology and programming, but people still think they should be getting it for Tuppence a week....
the BBC is also making massive investments in technology - and however when you look at the capital investment of sky it is less than 5% of their revenue "
Sky is a company with shareholders, they go to the City to raise Billions in order to invest in the future technology and betterment of the company.
They make the BBC's programme investment look like peanuts, they also have massive hardware and technical investment that the BBC just doesn't have to shell out for.
The BBC license is a fair subject to have a discussion about because it effects us all, like it or not....Sky on the other hand is a lifestyle choice that the viewer has full control over, in that you choose to purchase it or not.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"sky charges for a bouquet of channels - and you have to have pay for the basics before you can even pay more for the sport - 90% of their channels are not worth paying for anyway "
So don't pay. Unfortunately you don't have that choice with the BBC. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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At the end of the day the BBC only exist because we as the nation pay our hard earned money to them. Do you think for one second that if we all stopped paying they would go bust. Erm nope they would come into this century and be competative and give value for money, ie pay per view for channels that we choose to watch. It is all about demand. Can anyone honestly say that every programme on the BBC is super fantastic value for money. You may get a few programmes that are interesting and good viewing but is it really worth £145 a year and going up again. I have no issue paying for something that I want to watch why should I have to pay them all that money for predominantly shite. You tube tv licencing you will be suprised at what you see and find out. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"...... You may get a few programmes that are interesting and good viewing but is it really worth £145 a year and going up again. ............"
There are LOTS of excellent programmes across the various BBC channels and radio stations.
The licence fee has been fixed till 2016. |
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"Ok here goes...
I don't agree with the TV licence which for a £145 is a complete rip off. You don't actually need a tv licence, how so!!
Well only if you watch live broadcasts then you need a tv licence, but if you wait an hour then you watch any program on catch up therefore negating the need for a tv licence.
There is not a programme that you cannot watch later. Capita who are the company the BBC employ for £500.000 000 a year are the ones who enforce the tv licencing. They have as much power as a car room salesman, in fact he probably has more. They cannot enter your property nor do you have to answer any of their stupid questions, why incriminate yourself by answering their questions. If they get persistant then tell them you are withdrawing their right of access to your property, then the only way they can legally come onto your property is with a warrant.
Don't believe me then google it, or you tube it. They are a complete rip off. I called them and cancelled mine they tried to tell me I needed a licence to which I informed them that I dont watch live broadcasts nor do I have any interest in watching live tv, strangely enough they agreed with me. I could bang on about it all night but won't suffice to say You Do Not Need a TV Licence.
revolution "
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more like throwing a strop..  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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At the end of the day if you are happy paying for it then that is cool, however I don't agree with it and feel that I get much better value elsewhere. Different strokes for Different folks. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"At the end of the day if you are happy paying for it then that is cool, however I don't agree with it and feel that I get much better value elsewhere. Different strokes for Different folks."
Better value than 40p a day? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yep much better value, free, nada nil nothing.
You really think free counts as value for money?"
Let me think for a nano sec, erm yep cause it means that I can spend it on other more important things. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Yep much better value, free, nada nil nothing.
You really think free counts as value for money?
Since no money is exchanged it is certainly value."
I keep hearing about how people avoid the BBC licence fee by doing this or that or the next thing.
It usually turns out that, whilst they avoid the BBC licence fee, they pay loadsadosh for set-top boxes, a fat internet pipe, subscription to various pay-to-view services + Netflicks etc.
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Yep much better value, free, nada nil nothing.
You really think free counts as value for money?
Let me think for a nano sec, erm yep cause it means that I can spend it on other more important things."
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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago
dirtybigbadsgirlville |
"Only Fools is worth its weight in gold any day.
BBC has produced some of the best TV in the world.
Much better than go bloody compare every 8 minutes."
They show constant repeats on Gold, so much so i now cant stand the bloody programme... |
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Total waste of my money as I don't watch bbc at all and I cannot remember the last time I watched anything on it. I spend more of my time listening to the radio than watching tv |
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Stop paying your licence. When they want to know why you are not renewing it, tell them you are not watching TV. They have no right of entry, without forewarning. Hide the TV prior to their inspection (and only let them in when they have the relevant paperwork and are accompanied by the police). The TV detector vans that you see (or used to, I can't remember the last time I saw one), are empty of any equipment. They are there to put the frighteners on people. Don't be fooled or scared to face them down. |
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"Yep much better value, free, nada nil nothing.
You really think free counts as value for money?
Let me think for a nano sec, erm yep cause it means that I can spend it on other more important things."
if 10% of 'paying customers' in the business you owned or worked in took the same attitude and you were laid off or lost your company, would you still have the same view..? |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Stop paying your licence. When they want to know why you are not renewing it, tell them you are not watching TV. They have no right of entry, without forewarning. Hide the TV prior to their inspection (and only let them in when they have the relevant paperwork and are accompanied by the police). The TV detector vans that you see (or used to, I can't remember the last time I saw one), are empty of any equipment. They are there to put the frighteners on people. Don't be fooled or scared to face them down. "
That ain't how it works.
Whilst a few non-payers will be ingored on the grounds the hassle ain't worth the candle, there's a point at which the sums are reversed.
That's why small demos are tolerated and bigger ones stopped, almost regardless of cost. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Yep much better value, free, nada nil nothing.
You really think free counts as value for money?
Let me think for a nano sec, erm yep cause it means that I can spend it on other more important things.
if 10% of 'paying customers' in the business you owned or worked in took the same attitude and you were laid off or lost your company, would you still have the same view..? "
It's all part of the 'something for nothing' culture which abounds in certain classes of UK society. |
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"Yep much better value, free, nada nil nothing.
You really think free counts as value for money?
Let me think for a nano sec, erm yep cause it means that I can spend it on other more important things.
if 10% of 'paying customers' in the business you owned or worked in took the same attitude and you were laid off or lost your company, would you still have the same view..?
It's all part of the 'something for nothing' culture which abounds in certain classes of UK society."
i dont buy the excuse that someone 'is only' watching something on i-player so therefore is exempt..
its a bit of a moral cop out and if it is a 'loop hole' legally it will be closed.. |
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Being objective about the BBC, I'd say that it's World Service is relied upon by many people around the world and it is widely respected in journalism. For it's mainstream programming, it has a lot of good content and some pretty dire stuff too although the addition of BBC3 & 4 and BBC Arts on Sky makes the licence fee worth it alone.
What I abhor about the BBC is it's UK News coverage and political content. As a taxpayer-funded entity it should have a completely neutral position and report political issues with impartiality, but that is not the case at all. The BBC News team is predominantly left-wing in it's reporting and for that reason I think the BBC should be broken up and it's News arm (not including BBC World Service) should carry advertising and the licence fee reduced accordingly. |
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Money well spent as I see it and would no way let people opt out as it would then be more expensive for the rest of us.
On second thoughts it should be twice as much for those philistines who watch sky rather than the beeb. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Being objective about the BBC, I'd say that it's World Service is relied upon by many people around the world and it is widely respected in journalism. .........."
BBC World Service is like dial tone. Even at the end of the earth you'd expect to be able to pick up a handset and get dial tone.
Wherever you are on earth ('cept under water) you can get BBC World Service and lots of us can now only sleep with it in the background.
The voices of Sarah Green and Harriet Cass were instantly recognisable and conveyed a sense of reassurance that the world was continuing to turn. Things might well be in chaos but it'd work out OK in the end.
Even the Shipping Forecast (Radio 4) was a constant comfort in a dangerous world. |
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"Even the Shipping Forecast (Radio 4) was a constant comfort in a dangerous world."
My wife listens to that when she's cooking or when she's in the bath. (I once asked her if she had a boat stashed away somewhere explaining why she listened to it, but she swore blind she didn't). She's up there now, in bed, listening to it. Weirdo.  |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"£3 a week to miss out on those bloody adverts.
DEFINITELY
WOW where do you get your license from I pay £5.60 a week "
£145.50 per annum divided by 52 weeks is £2.80 per week.
I believe there's some confusion when people move from buying an annual licence to paying monthly. |
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By *arl828Man
over a year ago
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"£3 a week to miss out on those bloody adverts.
DEFINITELY
WOW where do you get your license from I pay £5.60 a week
£145.50 per annum divided by 52 weeks is £2.80 per week.
I believe there's some confusion when people move from buying an annual licence to paying monthly."
Ah but I pay £11.20 every fortnight, but just realised I only pay for 26 weeks DOH! So is £2.80 a week over 52 weeks PMSL!  |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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£3 a week to miss out on those bloody adverts.
DEFINITELY
WOW where do you get your license from I pay £5.60 a week
£145.50 per annum divided by 52 weeks is £2.80 per week.
I believe there's some confusion when people move from buying an annual licence to paying monthly.
Ah but I pay £11.20 every fortnight, but just realised I only pay for 26 weeks DOH! So is £2.80 a week over 52 weeks PMSL! "
There ye go. Sorted! |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"....... She's up there now, in bed, listening to it. Weirdo.
I blame the company she keeps.
Well, she is a LibDem, it's not been easy for her. "
She's a FibDem and you're a Tory?
I wonder where Camoron got the idea of fucking them all ways to nowhere came from. |
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"No not that kind of BBC.
Is British Broadcastin Corp licence fee worth it. Personally, I think programmes like Documentaries (such as Africa), Panorama, News, etc., make it worth it's weight in gold and of course, no ads.
Or should it compete in the commercial world?
Your thoughts ladies and gentlemen.
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If they went commercial we would be paying a hellava lot more and probs would not get such diversity as they wouldbhavevtobrespond to the majority.
. Well worth it and sets the standard . |
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"....... She's up there now, in bed, listening to it. Weirdo.
I blame the company she keeps.
Well, she is a LibDem, it's not been easy for her.
She's a FibDem and you're a Tory?
I wonder where Camoron got the idea of fucking them all ways to nowhere came from."
She's from up here so she's a bit of an anomaly in Newcastle (you could pin a red rosette on a friggin donkey up here and the silly sods would vote for it). I was sent up here from down south to infiltrate the illiterate swine and confuse them by putting a Tory sticker in my window on election night (they get lost once they've seen it and think they're in Bedfordshire) |
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"sky charges for a bouquet of channels - and you have to have pay for the basics before you can even pay more for the sport - 90% of their channels are not worth paying for anyway "
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"don't begrudge paying it at all... they have a public service remit that wouldn't be satisfied otherwise...
bbc radio.. both national and local, stuff like the bbc science and natural history unit.... bbc drama and documentries, bbc childrens unit for example.....
The last bastion of decent, unbiased, upright, high moral, provider of public services, Jimmy could fix anything !
Bunch out out of touch, unaccountable, corrupt, in some cases, perverted megalamaniac arseholes, do i object to keeping this corporation of shame in funds, you bet your bollocks I do "
see... that is narrow minded...
you focus on jimmy saville if you like!!... and I'll focus on the superb wildlife documentries that are on, that draw huge figures, but would not be made if it wasn't for the way the BBC if funded, because they dont necessarily make money...
and whether you like it or not... the BBC childrens unit it the envy of the world... from the tweenies to balamory to teletubbies to the wiggles.... they are show and translated across the world
you may not listen to bbc local radio, and their national stations, I for example listen to radio 5 and 6music but a lot of people do....
you want to know what a fully commercial tv station would look like... you have it in ITV, and to be honest, if it isn't for the sport I don't think I watch it at all...... |
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"£3 a week to miss out on those bloody adverts.
DEFINITELY
I record most things so can skip through them . Since when recording has been made possible??? I bet it is less than 10 years"
I bought a Betamax Video Recorder in 1983 and they had been out a few years even then |
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"Yep much better value, free, nada nil nothing.
You really think free counts as value for money?
Let me think for a nano sec, erm yep cause it means that I can spend it on other more important things.
if 10% of 'paying customers' in the business you owned or worked in took the same attitude and you were laid off or lost your company, would you still have the same view..?
It's all part of the 'something for nothing' culture which abounds in certain classes of UK society.
i dont buy the excuse that someone 'is only' watching something on i-player so therefore is exempt..
its a bit of a moral cop out and if it is a 'loop hole' legally it will be closed.. "
It is not a loophole, nor is it a cop out. It is simply freedom of choice. I have had sky and decided it was not for me and was costing too much money for what you actually get.
I don't like watching soaps or any of that kind of stuff. It seems as if everyone is fixated on the fact that they must watch tv at some point during the day or evening.
I got sick of the fact that I felt I was being bamboozeled into shelling out money for something I don't watch. I watch blue ray dvd which I buy, I play my XBOX games when I choose, but more importantly I now actually have a purpose of an evening. I sit and read, study, talk to my friends, spend time with my loved ones but actually interact with them. Instead of being stuck in front of a box every night I take time to actually do things. I for one certainly don't miss television at all. We have all been conditioned over the years to comply, conform to an ideal of being a certain way. I am not denying the fact that indeed the BBC may well make interesting programmes but is that all there is to life sitting in front of a box staring at a screen. What about the wonderful culture of reading learning, imagining where a book is taking you. Thinking about things learning new stuff. News programmes, predominantly is all about hurt pain death destruction - your tv programmes ie soaps - death destruction, cheating - killing who is having an affair with who this week. What imaginiation is there in that. I believe in freedom of choice and my choice is to not watch tv and if I do then I will choose to. Why should I have to be told that I must.
If you as a viewer feel that it is value for money then good for you. If you are happy sitting in front of your television watching programmes, great.
Now ask yourself this. When was the last time you actually talked to someone, I don't mean workmates or on the phone for five minutes, I mean physically talked about your day their day, how the world is. When was the last time you got up and not thought oh will just make a quick cuppa before Eastenders starts. You know tv is not the be all and end all of everything it has taken over peoples lives. If you think I am talking codswallop you may be right,but before you knock my theory then try it. Go for a week without tv, see how you get on then after a week come back and tell me that you all of a sudden started to talk, do things you wouldn't normally do. If you still feel tv is for you fine go for it, because that is your choice. |
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"Being objective about the BBC, I'd say that it's World Service is relied upon by many people around the world and it is widely respected in journalism. For it's mainstream programming, it has a lot of good content and some pretty dire stuff too although the addition of BBC3 & 4 and BBC Arts on Sky makes the licence fee worth it alone.
What I abhor about the BBC is it's UK News coverage and political content. As a taxpayer-funded entity it should have a completely neutral position and report political issues with impartiality, but that is not the case at all. The BBC News team is predominantly left-wing in it's reporting and for that reason I think the BBC should be broken up and it's News arm (not including BBC World Service) should carry advertising and the licence fee reduced accordingly."
Wishy that's rubbish, the satire is as biting on everyone and when labour were in power the BBC was just as savage (they lead the charge for 6 months on Steven Byers, got neutered over attacking Blair and Campbell over the dodgy dossier)
Don't confuse good effective journalism with bias. The Condem govt are easy targets cos they are not competent. They were as easy to attack as new labour and are getting just as much stick |
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"Not worth it one bit. I really begrudge paying for a channel that I haven't watched for years. It should go to a pay per view channel so those who wanted to pay £3 a week could, but I certainly wouldn't. "
But the license fee doesn't just pay for a TV channel as such. Your £3 a week pays for all the BBC TV Channels, all the BBC local and national radio stations and all the BBC web output. Now i suppose if you never ever listen to a BBC radio program, never watch any program on BBC TV, or one thats repeated on the myriad of SKY channels nor ever access any information on the BBC website you'd be right about saving your £3, but most people in the UK will use some of those services at least a little bit.
What I object to is people in Europe being able to watch or listen to BCC or to use the BBC website beyound the news element part of it without paying, unless someone with more knowledge than me tells me that anyone living in France, Belgium etc do pay to access BBC stuff |
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By *quirrelMan
over a year ago
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I have worked abroad and watched local TV stations ain major cities, and i can honestly say that compared to the BBC the vast majority were. A 30min BBC programme I watched in America a few years back ran for an hour because of the number of commercial breaks.
The BBC is good because its not dependant on advertising revenue so it can critacise manufacturers and suppliers without fear of losing their money.
Jezza Clarkson on top gear critacised a citroen car some time back and their response was to tell the BBC to retract the comment or lose their advertising, the BBC told them they were independantly funded, citroen then reviewed the critacism, checked the car and made changes, then asked for the BBC to review it again, because they were indeopendant and wanted an honest evaluation. result! |
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Wouldn't mind paying a licence fee if they produced decent stuff, but a lot of the BBC output is dumbed-down politically correct garbage. The BBC is NOT fair and balanced either, it supports Labour right down the line.
BUT the thing that really gets us is there are OVER 200 BBC managers earning more than the Prime Minister. Nice work if you can get it!
Scrap the licence fee and make the BBC compete in the media market. Within a couple of months it would be half the size and nobody would notice any difference.
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"bbc radio london is the only local station worth listening to and the only robert elms maybe jo goode."
Well as I live in Merseyside, I'd dispute that Radio London is the only local radio station worth listening to. To me it would be pointless drival about London.
However, you should retune to BBC Radio Merseyside where you will hear lots of important stuff about Merseyside and the North west and also you can join in the daily debate with the great Roger Phillips.
In other words local radio serves it's purpose of catering for the demands of it's local audience. |
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"bbc radio london is the only local station worth listening to and the only robert elms maybe jo goode.
Well as I live in Merseyside, I'd dispute that Radio London is the only local radio station worth listening to. To me it would be pointless drival about London.
However, you should retune to BBC Radio Merseyside where you will hear lots of important stuff about Merseyside and the North west and also you can join in the daily debate with the great Roger Phillips.
In other words local radio serves it's purpose of catering for the demands of it's local audience."
Steve Yabsley on Radio Bristol is worth the fee on his own.
If you switch to a pay per view/listen service, the you would lose the quality of programming. Commercial documentaries tend to have around 8 mins content stretched over an hour, whilst the style takes over the substance. You end up with the same material just repeated and repeated until yer left screaming at the box 'get the fuck on with what you're trying to tell me.'
Thats just one area. By the time you look at the news service and drama (Dancing on the Edge etc) you can see it adds up to an excellent service.
One thing the beeb has done historically is nurture programme makers. As an example, most would agree that Blackadder was a successful comedy. Yet if you look at the first series, it was a flop. It was the beeb that gave it a second chance and it flew after that. You would not get that elsewhere. |
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"Being objective about the BBC, I'd say that it's World Service is relied upon by many people around the world and it is widely respected in journalism. For it's mainstream programming, it has a lot of good content and some pretty dire stuff too although the addition of BBC3 & 4 and BBC Arts on Sky makes the licence fee worth it alone.
What I abhor about the BBC is it's UK News coverage and political content. As a taxpayer-funded entity it should have a completely neutral position and report political issues with impartiality, but that is not the case at all. The BBC News team is predominantly left-wing in it's reporting and for that reason I think the BBC should be broken up and it's News arm (not including BBC World Service) should carry advertising and the licence fee reduced accordingly. Wishy that's rubbish, the satire is as biting on everyone and when labour were in power the BBC was just as savage (they lead the charge for 6 months on Steven Byers, got neutered over attacking Blair and Campbell over the dodgy dossier)
Don't confuse good effective journalism with bias. The Condem govt are easy targets cos they are not competent. They were as easy to attack as new labour and are getting just as much stick "
Have to agree. As a labour supporter, I used to sit boiling at the TV when Hislop et al used to be on the attack. But I would defend to my last breath their right to do so.
Still, Cam and company are getting it with both barreks now and deservedly so. So there is balance x |
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"Being objective about the BBC, I'd say that it's World Service is relied upon by many people around the world and it is widely respected in journalism. For it's mainstream programming, it has a lot of good content and some pretty dire stuff too although the addition of BBC3 & 4 and BBC Arts on Sky makes the licence fee worth it alone.
What I abhor about the BBC is it's UK News coverage and political content. As a taxpayer-funded entity it should have a completely neutral position and report political issues with impartiality, but that is not the case at all. The BBC News team is predominantly left-wing in it's reporting and for that reason I think the BBC should be broken up and it's News arm (not including BBC World Service) should carry advertising and the licence fee reduced accordingly. Wishy that's rubbish, the satire is as biting on everyone and when labour were in power the BBC was just as savage (they lead the charge for 6 months on Steven Byers, got neutered over attacking Blair and Campbell over the dodgy dossier)
Don't confuse good effective journalism with bias. The Condem govt are easy targets cos they are not competent. They were as easy to attack as new labour and are getting just as much stick
Have to agree. As a labour supporter, I used to sit boiling at the TV when Hislop et al used to be on the attack. But I would defend to my last breath their right to do so.
Still, Cam and company are getting it with both barreks now and deservedly so. So there is balance x"
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"I have worked abroad and watched local TV stations ain major cities, and i can honestly say that compared to the BBC the vast majority were. A 30min BBC programme I watched in America a few years back ran for an hour because of the number of commercial breaks.
The BBC is good because its not dependant on advertising revenue so it can critacise manufacturers and suppliers without fear of losing their money.
Jezza Clarkson on top gear critacised a citroen car some time back and their response was to tell the BBC to retract the comment or lose their advertising, the BBC told them they were independantly funded, citroen then reviewed the critacism, checked the car and made changes, then asked for the BBC to review it again, because they were indeopendant and wanted an honest evaluation. result!"
The lack of pressure from advertisers does give a more honest approach but some will see anything other than their own opinion as biased. I really don't think its expensive and have no problem buying a licence. |
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"bbc radio london is the only local station worth listening to and the only robert elms maybe jo goode.
Well as I live in Merseyside, I'd dispute that Radio London is the only local radio station worth listening to. To me it would be pointless drival about London.
However, you should retune to BBC Radio Merseyside where you will hear lots of important stuff about Merseyside and the North west and also you can join in the daily debate with the great Roger Phillips.
In other words local radio serves it's purpose of catering for the demands of it's local audience.
Steve Yabsley on Radio Bristol is worth the fee on his own.
If you switch to a pay per view/listen service, the you would lose the quality of programming. Commercial documentaries tend to have around 8 mins content stretched over an hour, whilst the style takes over the substance. You end up with the same material just repeated and repeated until yer left screaming at the box 'get the fuck on with what you're trying to tell me.'
Thats just one area. By the time you look at the news service and drama (Dancing on the Edge etc) you can see it adds up to an excellent service.
One thing the beeb has done historically is nurture programme makers. As an example, most would agree that Blackadder was a successful comedy. Yet if you look at the first series, it was a flop. It was the beeb that gave it a second chance and it flew after that. You would not get that elsewhere."
Absolutely right. Look also at men behaving badly which WAS dropped by ITV and then picked up and made a success by auntie. I have not watched a comedy on ITV that I've liked for ages........ |
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"The bbc has adverts ! Between progs it uses that spot to promote its self, advertising the bbc and its services and progs. I dont pay to watch tv."
Don't forget product placement and they never blur the multitudinous advertising boards at televised sports events, do they?
Personally, I find I can be adequately entertained and educated by freeview channels, and I can certainly while away the few minutes of advert breaks without comitting suicide at the loss of the continuous plotline of Eastenders.
I believe the TV license fee to be nothing more than another stealth tax. |
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"The bbc has adverts ! Between progs it uses that spot to promote its self, advertising the bbc and its services and progs. I dont pay to watch tv.
Don't forget product placement and they never blur the multitudinous advertising boards at televised sports events, do they?
Personally, I find I can be adequately entertained and educated by freeview channels, and I can certainly while away the few minutes of advert breaks without comitting suicide at the loss of the continuous plotline of Eastenders.
I believe the TV license fee to be nothing more than another stealth tax."
If you would like to see that kind of advertising pixilated, then why not campaign for it? The great thing with the BBC is that you own it and can have your say. |
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"The bbc has adverts ! Between progs it uses that spot to promote its self, advertising the bbc and its services and progs. I dont pay to watch tv.
Don't forget product placement and they never blur the multitudinous advertising boards at televised sports events, do they?
Personally, I find I can be adequately entertained and educated by freeview channels, and I can certainly while away the few minutes of advert breaks without comitting suicide at the loss of the continuous plotline of Eastenders.
I believe the TV license fee to be nothing more than another stealth tax."
Freeview is a joint venture by the bbc, ITV, CH4 and sky. So your license fee helps pay for that too.
The BBC is a great service that you don't really pay very much for. Sky charges a lot more for even it's most basic package. Of course that's voluntary though. But if the bbc disappeared you'd find your choice limited to 3 free channels unless you paid sky.
For the small amount of license money you get 4 main channels, regional content, dedicated news channel, umpteen radio stations, iplayer and other web content.
Should the BBC charter be revoked and the BBC disappear you would be left with ITV (part owner R.Murdoch), Sky (owned by R.Murdoch), CH5 (prop R.Desmond owner of the Daily Express and several porn channels) and 1 or 2 others. Murdoch and Desmond are both big fans of dumbing down and telling people what they want them to know. You've only got to watch how Fox news reports big stories in the US to see how moronic it is.
The BBC for all its faults is largely impartial. So much so that it has gotten on consecutive governments tits. Worthy of applause surely?!
So give it a break, you'll miss it when it's gone and you're paying a lot more to watch tv.
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It is not a loophole, nor is it a cop out. It is simply freedom of choice. I have had sky and decided it was not for me and was costing too much money for what you actually get.
I don't like watching soaps or any of that kind of stuff. It seems as if everyone is fixated on the fact that they must watch tv at some point during the day or evening.
I got sick of the fact that I felt I was being bamboozeled into shelling out money for something I don't watch. I watch blue ray dvd which I buy, I play my XBOX games when I choose, but more importantly I now actually have a purpose of an evening. I sit and read, study, talk to my friends, spend time with my loved ones but actually interact with them. Instead of being stuck in front of a box every night I take time to actually do things. I for one certainly don't miss television at all. We have all been conditioned over the years to comply, conform to an ideal of being a certain way. I am not denying the fact that indeed the BBC may well make interesting programmes but is that all there is to life sitting in front of a box staring at a screen. What about the wonderful culture of reading learning, imagining where a book is taking you. Thinking about things learning new stuff. News programmes, predominantly is all about hurt pain death destruction - your tv programmes ie soaps - death destruction, cheating - killing who is having an affair with who this week. What imaginiation is there in that. I believe in freedom of choice and my choice is to not watch tv and if I do then I will choose to. Why should I have to be told that I must.
If you as a viewer feel that it is value for money then good for you. If you are happy sitting in front of your television watching programmes, great.
Now ask yourself this. When was the last time you actually talked to someone, I don't mean workmates or on the phone for five minutes, I mean physically talked about your day their day, how the world is. When was the last time you got up and not thought oh will just make a quick cuppa before Eastenders starts. You know tv is not the be all and end all of everything it has taken over peoples lives. If you think I am talking codswallop you may be right,but before you knock my theory then try it. Go for a week without tv, see how you get on then after a week come back and tell me that you all of a sudden started to talk, do things you wouldn't normally do. If you still feel tv is for you fine go for it, because that is your choice. "
the inference in your initial post is that you wait and use 'catch up', this then justifies your not requiring a current TV licence..is that roughly correct..?
for the record i do watch some tv, mainly documentaries some comedy...
never watched a soap though..
have to say the rest of your missive is a not relevant to myself as it seems based more on your perceptions
Now ask yourself this, do you always make assumptions ladled with sweeping generalisations in a condescending holier than thou manner served up in a most patronizing manner..?
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"It's a rip off that we have to pay them for a t v license - i really resent paying it - Z the licence fee is a tax on televisions. If you don't like it don't own a TV and you won't have to pay.
When asking a foreigner what they think is best about Britain, do you think they say the monarchy? Or London busses? No, it's the BBC which broadcasts reliable impartial news to the world. Only an idiot would want to get rid of something which truely is the envy of the world."
lol - so I'm an idiot because i don't like being forced to pay for something that i don't watch - it isn't a tex on televisions! it funds the bbc - get your facts right before calling others idiots! Z |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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lol - so I'm an idiot because i don't like being forced to pay for something that i don't watch - it isn't a tex on televisions! it funds the bbc - get your facts right before calling others idiots! Z"
I don't think that is the case at all... however sometimes because I lived in the states, you don't realise how good the BBC is and the reputation it has for quality TV...
you want fully commercial TV, I grew up with ABC, NBC and CBS.....
they don't do documentries because they don't make money....
they don't do wildlife or science programming because it doesn't make money.....
they don't do childrens programming because it doesn't make money (if you want to use seseme street.. it is made by PBS, which is US govt funded)
you'll see that all the good drama for example is made by HBO and Showtime... the Pay TV channels....
as i said, you have a template of what mostly national free commercial TV looks like... its called ITV, and to be honest, with the exception of sport I hardly watch it... |
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I am not taking a holier than thou stance at all. I am simply saying that I have freedom of choice and my choice is such that I do not agree with paying television licence. I also stated that I do indeed choose to spend my evenings in what I feel is a more constructive manner, ie reading etc.
I have no interest or concern in whether people prefer to watch tv than not watching tv. The thread was opened asking whether the BBC is worth paying for or not. In my opinion it is not. I made a decision to change how I do things and for me it works, so because I have suggested that others might want to try because they may well be suprised at what they actually do to fill in the time that they would normally be doing when watching tv makes me holier than thou.
If I have come across as that then I apologise cause that is not what I intended or meant. |
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By *xpresMan
over a year ago
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"I cant belive people bitch n moan about the tv license bbc1,2,3,4,hd plus the bbc online n red button radio 1,2,3,4,1extra,asain network 6music, 4 extra n 5live 909... £3 a week. Its a bargain im sure i forgot a couple of chanels on the radio
What if you don't use any of those channels ?
When I go in a pub I only have a glass of wine. I know there is lager, bitter and spirits in there but I don't have them so I don't pay for them.
The same applies to the BBC, I don't use it so shouldn't pay for it. "
So your trying to say.. you never watch a BBC chanel or listen to a BBC radio station....
To be honest i dont believe you!!.. all the local tv n radio cbbc bbcnews 24... if anyone says they dont watch bbc... i will call them a liar |
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By *umpkinMan
over a year ago
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To those who say they shouldn`t have to pay for the BBC because they don`t watch it, do they realise that by buying anything their money could be going partly to support political parties or oranisations they do not support - in other words the company may support a political party that supports/encourages/whatever things that benefit the company. At least you have a reasonable idea where the BBC money is going to!
An old workmate was very put after announcing to us that by being a union member he was supporting the Labour Party, he was told that by buying products from company "x" he was also supporting the Conservatives because they were well known Conservative supporters.
To add, Sky are masters at changing their alleigance to whichever political party will favour their intentions! |
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"I cant belive people bitch n moan about the tv license bbc1,2,3,4,hd plus the bbc online n red button radio 1,2,3,4,1extra,asain network 6music, 4 extra n 5live 909... £3 a week. Its a bargain im sure i forgot a couple of chanels on the radio
What if you don't use any of those channels ?
When I go in a pub I only have a glass of wine. I know there is lager, bitter and spirits in there but I don't have them so I don't pay for them.
The same applies to the BBC, I don't use it so shouldn't pay for it.
So your trying to say.. you never watch a BBC chanel or listen to a BBC radio station....
To be honest i dont believe you!!.. all the local tv n radio cbbc bbcnews 24... if anyone says they dont watch bbc... i will call them a liar"
Call me a liar then. I haven't watched or listened to anything the BBC has broadcast for over 10 years now.
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By *abioMan
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Call me a liar then. I haven't watched or listened to anything the BBC has broadcast for over 10 years now.
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I'd love to know what you watched then.. because I am betting something out there would be at least co-produced by the bbc and you don't even realise it.... |
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Call me a liar then. I haven't watched or listened to anything the BBC has broadcast for over 10 years now.
I'd love to know what you watched then.. because I am betting something out there would be at least co-produced by the bbc and you don't even realise it...."
I think it would be virtually impossible to do this, due mostly to the fact that there is so much cross fertilisation with program makers. An example that springs to mind is the new series of Yes Prime Minister. Brand new series on Gold but made by the beeb.
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By *xpresMan
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"I cant belive people bitch n moan about the tv license bbc1,2,3,4,hd plus the bbc online n red button radio 1,2,3,4,1extra,asain network 6music, 4 extra n 5live 909... £3 a week. Its a bargain im sure i forgot a couple of chanels on the radio
What if you don't use any of those channels ?
When I go in a pub I only have a glass of wine. I know there is lager, bitter and spirits in there but I don't have them so I don't pay for them.
The same applies to the BBC, I don't use it so shouldn't pay for it.
So your trying to say.. you never watch a BBC chanel or listen to a BBC radio station....
To be honest i dont believe you!!.. all the local tv n radio cbbc bbcnews 24... if anyone says they dont watch bbc... i will call them a liar
Call me a liar then. I haven't watched or listened to anything the BBC has broadcast for over 10 years now.
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So you havent seen or heard BBC.. i can honestly say you lie, lots off beeb productions come up on diffrant chanels sky itv all use the BBC so dont try n hide behind the i dont watch it bollox |
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"I cant belive people bitch n moan about the tv license bbc1,2,3,4,hd plus the bbc online n red button radio 1,2,3,4,1extra,asain network 6music, 4 extra n 5live 909... £3 a week. Its a bargain im sure i forgot a couple of chanels on the radio
What if you don't use any of those channels ?
When I go in a pub I only have a glass of wine. I know there is lager, bitter and spirits in there but I don't have them so I don't pay for them.
The same applies to the BBC, I don't use it so shouldn't pay for it.
So your trying to say.. you never watch a BBC chanel or listen to a BBC radio station....
To be honest i dont believe you!!.. all the local tv n radio cbbc bbcnews 24... if anyone says they dont watch bbc... i will call them a liar
Call me a liar then. I haven't watched or listened to anything the BBC has broadcast for over 10 years now.
So you havent seen or heard BBC.. i can honestly say you lie, lots off beeb productions come up on diffrant chanels sky itv all use the BBC so dont try n hide behind the i dont watch it bollox "
The thing is, the beeb have given so many uk bands, groups and solo artists their first chance that, chances are, if the band is from Britain they are only making music cos John peel played them (or mark n lard or Jo Wiley or grimly etc)
Same for uk drama Or film makers...... |
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"Not worth it one bit. I really begrudge paying for a channel that I haven't watched for years. It should go to a pay per view channel so those who wanted to pay £3 a week could, but I certainly wouldn't. "
agree!
I rarely watch it, usually watch sky which has a better selection of everything, granted its more expensive but least I pay to watch what I want!
BBC just a waste of poor tv for me personally |
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