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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news .... |
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The police don't always charge every offender, including for motoring offences. We should allow experienced police staff to use their expertise to have flexibility.
Would the cyclists have sped off, like rats from a sack, if they were going to be charged, with the police having no identification details? And possibly a group of cyclists blocking a busy road could have caused a bigger safety problem, whilst waiting to give their details? |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
Not a chance a motorist would have got "words of advice",and we have to have insurance,an mot,tax and a licence.How many bikes are road legal?I haven't seen any with an "audible alarm"(bell in old language),Three last night had no lights and two had none at the front.Would you get words of advice if your car was an MOT failure(no horn) or you were driving without lights? |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"The police don't always charge every offender, including for motoring offences. We should allow experienced police staff to use their expertise to have flexibility.
Would the cyclists have sped off, like rats from a sack, if they were going to be charged, with the police having no identification details? And possibly a group of cyclists blocking a busy road could have caused a bigger safety problem, whilst waiting to give their details?"
They do everyone for speeding over the percentage threshold,therefore they would have done a driver doing 40 in a 30,because a 30 is residential/risk to pedestrians. |
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By *addad99Man
over a year ago
Rotherham /newquay |
I for one would love to hear the coppers excuse for not giving a ticket and points as said if it was a car not a cat in hells chance they would have not been fined and points talk about one rule for one another rule for others.my nephew just been done 1 mile above 3 points yes he was speeding so got what he deserved according to the police. |
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Speed limits do not apply to cyclists, only to motor vehicles and their drivers. Dog whistles, what-aboutaries and general hatred towards certain demographics don't have any effect on the law, although I'm sure there will still be plenty of people wasting their time arguing the toss about it and making asses of themselves.  |
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over a year ago
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"my nephew just been done 1 mile above 3 points yes he was speeding so got what he deserved according to the police."
My nephew got caught doing 1 mile above and they didn't charge him. Plus they gave him a bakewell tart.
You must be wrong |
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ...."
Would have been worse if they were townies in lycra. Luckily the wellies saved them |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"I for one would love to hear the coppers excuse for not giving a ticket and points as said if it was a car not a cat in hells chance they would have not been fined and points talk about one rule for one another rule for others.my nephew just been done 1 mile above 3 points yes he was speeding so got what he deserved according to the police."
The "excuse"is lazy policing.Cars have number plates,number plates give names and addresses.Bikes don't have plates and there is no room in lycra fancy dress costumes for a checkable proof of identity.During COVID restrictions the cops had ANPR cars stopping every vehicle that showed as out of area,yet cycling clubs in named area clothing from miles away were just allowed to ride past.Some clubs were openly boasting about 120 mile rides,yet any driver from more than ten miles away had to justify their presence on the road. |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"Speed limits do not apply to cyclists, only to motor vehicles and their drivers. Dog whistles, what-aboutaries and general hatred towards certain demographics don't have any effect on the law, although I'm sure there will still be plenty of people wasting their time arguing the toss about it and making asses of themselves. "
The only people making asses of themselves are those who think rules designed for everyones road safety only apply to some.Most cyclists drive,therefore they have passed at least one test,but ride a bike in a way that would get them fined,points,banned or even jailed if they drove a car that way. |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"Andy, I'm getting the slightest feeling you are not a fan of cyclists. I could be wrong "
Cyclists who ride for everyone's safety and obey the rules of the road are absolutely fine.They don't have earphones so they can hear traffic.They look over their shoulder regularly,they indicate,they don't overtake/undertake at traffic lights/road junctions and then force their way in front of you.They have lights at night.On narrow roads and around all corners(highway code) they ride single file,they don't use the roads as their own personal stage of the tour de France.In short they are not selfish,inconsiderate,stupid dangerous c**** |
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ...."
It's because a motorist would have been breaking the law. That's what's going on, Tom.
You ask that question a lot, but if you read the news a little more closely you wouldn't have to. |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"In short they are not selfish,inconsiderate,stupid dangerous c****
Fancy joining my cycling club? We could help size you up for the lycra"
I did lots of cycling as a kid,road bikes,BMX etc.I'm from the generation that did the Cycling Proficiency Test at school which was compulsory.I cycled to work for two years,used bike and public transport after that for a while.My knees arent quite up to distance riding any more after being wiped out by a moron in a Defender who wasn't looking/indicating.Fled the scene,probably pissed. |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"You are incredibly wise. You just know people without knowing them.
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So how would you describe someone who caused an accident,(I saw them looking left as they turned right without indicating)injured someone and then fled the scene? |
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It's all over the forum! |
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ...."
I got stopped at 45 in a 30, just walked up to my window and told me to slow down, then left. So no, no they wouldn't. |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"Grumble grumble grumble. Moan whine whine grumble. Moan grumble moan grumble whine, moan whine grumble whine moan. Grumble grumble moan. Whine whine moan moan moan whine grumble grumble. "
If you stay silent nothing changes.If women stayed silent they still wouldn't be able to vote. |
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By *addad99Man
over a year ago
Rotherham /newquay |
"Andy, I'm getting the slightest feeling you are not a fan of cyclists. I could be wrong
Cyclists who ride for everyone's safety and obey the rules of the road are absolutely fine.They don't have earphones so they can hear traffic.They look over their shoulder regularly,they indicate,they don't overtake/undertake at traffic lights/road junctions and then force their way in front of you.They have lights at night.On narrow roads and around all corners(highway code) they ride single file,they don't use the roads as their own personal stage of the tour de France.In short they are not selfish,inconsiderate,stupid dangerous c****"
well said sir |
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"Grumble grumble grumble. Moan whine whine grumble. Moan grumble moan grumble whine, moan whine grumble whine moan. Grumble grumble moan. Whine whine moan moan moan whine grumble grumble.
If you stay silent nothing changes.If women stayed silent they still wouldn't be able to vote."
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"Andy, I'm getting the slightest feeling you are not a fan of cyclists. I could be wrong
Cyclists who ride for everyone's safety and obey the rules of the road are absolutely fine.They don't have earphones so they can hear traffic.They look over their shoulder regularly,they indicate,they don't overtake/undertake at traffic lights/road junctions and then force their way in front of you.They have lights at night.On narrow roads and around all corners(highway code) they ride single file,they don't use the roads as their own personal stage of the tour de France.In short they are not selfish,inconsiderate,stupid dangerous c****"
Sadly what you have just described there is 99.9% of car drivers and 100% of taxi drivers (well exchange TDF for the Nürburgring). Next you'll be talking about road tax as well! |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
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Send in the army |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You are incredibly wise. You just know people without knowing them.
So how would you describe someone who caused an accident,(I saw them looking left as they turned right without indicating)injured someone and then fled the scene?"
Effervescent
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"I want to know how they managed that. Cheating on leccy bikes? Drafting alone doesn’t give that good a result. Maybe they were cycling down hill."
It's good going. I wonder over what distance they kept that pace. |
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"Andy, I'm getting the slightest feeling you are not a fan of cyclists. I could be wrong
Cyclists who ride for everyone's safety and obey the rules of the road are absolutely fine.They don't have earphones so they can hear traffic.They look over their shoulder regularly,they indicate,they don't overtake/undertake at traffic lights/road junctions and then force their way in front of you.They have lights at night.On narrow roads and around all corners(highway code) they ride single file,they don't use the roads as their own personal stage of the tour de France.In short they are not selfish,inconsiderate,stupid dangerous c****"
Like alot of motorists then??  |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"You are incredibly wise. You just know people without knowing them.
So how would you describe someone who caused an accident,(I saw them looking left as they turned right without indicating)injured someone and then fled the scene?
Effervescent
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So I was lying in a hospital bed,with medics telling me they didn't know at that point if I would walk again because someone was "effervescent".How kind.How considerate.
Seems you "knew me without knowing me "as your first reply was to assume I'm anti cyclist.pot kettle black. |
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As a cyclist
of many years and car driver too I think there are more dangers from cars via idiotic drivers.
Everyone in rush to save odd second on journey nowadays sadly.
"Andy, I'm getting the slightest feeling you are not a fan of cyclists. I could be wrong
Cyclists who ride for everyone's safety and obey the rules of the road are absolutely fine.They don't have earphones so they can hear traffic.They look over their shoulder regularly,they indicate,they don't overtake/undertake at traffic lights/road junctions and then force their way in front of you.They have lights at night.On narrow roads and around all corners(highway code) they ride single file,they don't use the roads as their own personal stage of the tour de France.In short they are not selfish,inconsiderate,stupid dangerous c****
Like alot of motorists then?? "
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ...."
Oh FFS here we go again, bashing cyclists. |
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ....
Oh FFS here we go again, bashing cyclists."
It's trolltastic! |
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ...."
Since legally speed limits don’t apply to bicycles then they wouldn’t get the same treatment, no matter how much we might prefer it. I’m also presuming that e-bikes or steep hills were involved, unless they borrowed Sir Chis Hoy’s legs for the day. |
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ....
Since legally speed limits don’t apply to bicycles then they wouldn’t get the same treatment, no matter how much we might prefer it. I’m also presuming that e-bikes or steep hills were involved, unless they borrowed Sir Chis Hoy’s legs for the day."
I did not know that speed limits do not apply to bicycles so in sum of the new 20 mph areas it will be quicker on a bike especially an e bike.. |
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"Andy, I'm getting the slightest feeling you are not a fan of cyclists. I could be wrong
Cyclists who ride for everyone's safety and obey the rules of the road are absolutely fine.They don't have earphones so they can hear traffic.They look over their shoulder regularly,they indicate,they don't overtake/undertake at traffic lights/road junctions and then force their way in front of you.They have lights at night.On narrow roads and around all corners(highway code) they ride single file,they don't use the roads as their own personal stage of the tour de France.In short they are not selfish,inconsiderate,stupid dangerous c****"
Seriously dude, never ever drive through Cambridge  |
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Tom, the 2 camps are those that know speed limits laws do not apply to cyclists (it has already been pointed out more than once) and those that don't.
A motorist found not to be breaking the law wouldn't have the book thrown at them, in the same way the cyclists didn't, as they didn't break any laws.
It really isn't that hard to understand.
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ...."
Can you throw the book as fast as 40mph? |
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"It did cross my thoughts a while ago when those two boys were killed on an electric bike, that when you fit an electric motor in a bike it becomes a motor vehicle?"
There’s a difference between a pedal assist bike and an electric motor driven bike without pedals.
The two boys were riding the latter which is illegal as it’s classed as a vehicle.
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"Andy, I'm getting the slightest feeling you are not a fan of cyclists. I could be wrong
Cyclists who ride for everyone's safety and obey the rules of the road are absolutely fine.They don't have earphones so they can hear traffic.They look over their shoulder regularly,they indicate,they don't overtake/undertake at traffic lights/road junctions and then force their way in front of you.They have lights at night.On narrow roads and around all corners(highway code) they ride single file,they don't use the roads as their own personal stage of the tour de France.In short they are not selfish,inconsiderate,stupid dangerous c****"
I suspect that you're not a cyclist...
As someone who rides regularly, I can confirm that earphones don't prevent me from hearing traffic... I can hear more than when I'm inside a car with the radio playing. Riding at 20mph without earphones in, I can just hear the sound of wind in my ears.
Also, a group of cyclists riding in single file are much harder to pass than the same group riding two abreast.
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I was followed by a copper when I was doing 90 on the rainford by pass, then 50 in a 30 zone.
I got a talking to, then he checked my speedo for me as it was a grey import, back along the east lancs road.
I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 30 zone on my R6, another bollocking.
Both times no ticket. |
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"Andy, I'm getting the slightest feeling you are not a fan of cyclists. I could be wrong
Cyclists who ride for everyone's safety and obey the rules of the road are absolutely fine.They don't have earphones so they can hear traffic.They look over their shoulder regularly,they indicate,they don't overtake/undertake at traffic lights/road junctions and then force their way in front of you.They have lights at night.On narrow roads and around all corners(highway code) they ride single file,they don't use the roads as their own personal stage of the tour de France.In short they are not selfish,inconsiderate,stupid dangerous c****"
Why should cyclist follow the rules, when there are drivers who don't. We have all seen the idiots on the roads, driving as if they own the road. Totally obluvious to speed limits, the car in front, etc. They have number plates, insurance, driving licence and yet get away with it everyday. |
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"I was followed by a copper when I was doing 90 on the rainford by pass, then 50 in a 30 zone.
I got a talking to, then he checked my speedo for me as it was a grey import, back along the east lancs road.
I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 30 zone on my R6, another bollocking.
Both times no ticket."
Seriously? 70 in a 30 and you get a talking to? I find that beyond unbelievable. |
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"Andy, I'm getting the slightest feeling you are not a fan of cyclists. I could be wrong
Cyclists who ride for everyone's safety and obey the rules of the road are absolutely fine.They don't have earphones so they can hear traffic.They look over their shoulder regularly,they indicate,they don't overtake/undertake at traffic lights/road junctions and then force their way in front of you.They have lights at night.On narrow roads and around all corners(highway code) they ride single file,they don't use the roads as their own personal stage of the tour de France.In short they are not selfish,inconsiderate,stupid dangerous c****
Why should cyclist follow the rules, when there are drivers who don't. We have all seen the idiots on the roads, driving as if they own the road. Totally obluvious to speed limits, the car in front, etc. They have number plates, insurance, driving licence and yet get away with it everyday."
I would have thought cyclists would want to obey the rules because if they don’t and something goes wrong then they might well die. Just because someone else is incapable of understanding the rules and puts them in danger doesn’t really seem like a good excuse to double down on the risk to me.
If someone (car, motorbike, cyclist, scooter) decides to drive dangerously and they die as a result then I would feel sad at a life lost but I would have no sympathy. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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I see loads of speeding cyclists…. Tour of Britain this week!!!!
Last year, course went straight past my gaff at chez fabs!!! Closed my road for 2 hours!!
Did you not see my “will wear Lycra for food!” Sign…. |
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While there is no speed limit for them they could still under some circumstances be prosecuted using 1988 Road Traffic Act Section 28.
28Dangerous cycling.
(1)A person who rides a cycle on a road dangerously is guilty of an offence.
(2)For the purposes of subsection (1) above a person is to be regarded as riding dangerously if (and only if)—
(a)the way he rides falls far below what would be expected of a competent and careful cyclist, and
(b)it would be obvious to a competent and careful cyclist that riding in that way would be dangerous.
(3)In subsection (2) above “dangerous” refers to danger either of injury to any person or of serious damage to property; and in determining for the purposes of that subsection what would be obvious to a competent and careful cyclist in a particular case, regard shall be had not only to the circumstances of which he could be expected to be aware but also to any circumstances shown to have been within the knowledge of the accused. |
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"I was followed by a copper when I was doing 90 on the rainford by pass, then 50 in a 30 zone.
I got a talking to, then he checked my speedo for me as it was a grey import, back along the east lancs road.
I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 30 zone on my R6, another bollocking.
Both times no ticket.
Seriously? 70 in a 30 and you get a talking to? I find that beyond unbelievable."
I couldn't believe it as well, it was about 10pm, quiet roads and I riding home enjoying the exhaust note on the bike. Didn't look at my speedo, or notice the copper behind me until the blue lights went on.
Merseyside police were good back in the day. |
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A few years ago I got stopped by the police for doing 83 mph in a 50. It was a fine summers evening and it was on a dual carriageway local by-pass. He had me on video and told me the speed I was doing would be an automatic ban. I didn't argue with him although I'd had a god awful day at work. I kept my mouth shut thinking that's my license gone and my living.
He gave me a severe lecture then told me to get on my way and watch my speed in future. He never asked to see any documents or anything.
So, not all police officers are heartless sods.
I have behaved myself since. |
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"A few years ago I got stopped by the police for doing 83 mph in a 50. It was a fine summers evening and it was on a dual carriageway local by-pass. He had me on video and told me the speed I was doing would be an automatic ban. I didn't argue with him although I'd had a god awful day at work. I kept my mouth shut thinking that's my license gone and my living.
He gave me a severe lecture then told me to get on my way and watch my speed in future. He never asked to see any documents or anything.
So, not all police officers are heartless sods.
I have behaved myself since."
That wouldn't be an officer being a heartless sod though. That would have been an officer rightly enforcing the law against a dangerous driver.
Having a bad day doesn't justify driving in such a selfish and careless manner. If I believed your account, I'd say that officer should be sacked for dereliction of duty. |
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"I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 30 zone on my R6, another bollocking.
Both times no ticket...
Merseyside police were good back in the day."
But that's not good. That's a shit officer letting someone get away with some seriously dangerous driving. Do you really think that was good?!
Were you 17, or just far too self-absorbed to think about anyone else? |
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"I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 30 zone on my R6, another bollocking.
Both times no ticket...
Merseyside police were good back in the day.
But that's not good. That's a shit officer letting someone get away with some seriously dangerous driving. Do you really think that was good?!
Were you 17, or just far too self-absorbed to think about anyone else? "
I was 29 at the time, just got back on the back after 4 weeks due to having 3 weeks of radiotherapy. It felt good to blow the cob webs away. |
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"Speed limits do not apply to cyclists, only to motor vehicles and their drivers. Dog whistles, what-aboutaries and general hatred towards certain demographics don't have any effect on the law, although I'm sure there will still be plenty of people wasting their time arguing the toss about it and making asses of themselves. "
Spoken like a true lycra clad two wheeled warrior. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"….Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ...."
And probably ALL OVER THE FUCKING ROAD! too.  |
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The biggest difference between bikes and cars is mass. The difference between a collision involving a 1.5 tonne steel container, and a 7kg carbon fibre bike is significant
The number of people recorded as being killed in a collision with a bike is tiny, especially when compared to the number killed by motor vehicles... in reality, there are actually considerably more cyclists injured by pedestrians than the other way round.
Having said that, there are loads of terrible cyclists out there who show zero consideration for those around them, just considerably less of them than drivers with the same mind-set... and many "angry cyclists" end up that way due to being constantly harassed, threatened, and abused by car drivers.
On my daily commute, I ride down two 20mph sections of road. I will ride at 20mph on them bits of road but I will always be passed by two or three cars on each of these half mile stretches. |
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"I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 30 zone on my R6, another bollocking.
Both times no ticket...
Merseyside police were good back in the day.
But that's not good. That's a shit officer letting someone get away with some seriously dangerous driving. Do you really think that was good?!
Were you 17, or just far too self-absorbed to think about anyone else?
I was 29 at the time, just got back on the back after 4 weeks due to having 3 weeks of radiotherapy. It felt good to blow the cob webs away."
The fact you had just made it through radiotherapy would be a comfort to the parents of the kid you could have killed in that 30 zone. I am sure they would have slept better knowing that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s as simple as this for me “I detest cyclists”
I have my reasons and am sticking to them out.
It's ironic but I detest motorist's!"
The matrix is balanced then |
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over a year ago
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"I for one would love to hear the coppers excuse for not giving a ticket and points as said if it was a car not a cat in hells chance they would have not been fined and points talk about one rule for one another rule for others.my nephew just been done 1 mile above 3 points yes he was speeding so got what he deserved according to the police."
The speed limits relates to powered vehicles, not self powered.
No excuses is needed,
Your nephew also didn’t get 3 points for being 1mph over the limit, but feel to post a copy of the NIP and prove me wrong
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People trying to make excuses for cyclists speeding or trying to justify it... Its ok because... No its not ok. Nor is it ok for cars. Or those bloody electic scooters or powered bikes... Police losing credibility due to their haphazard application of the laws. Speeding is speeding. Apply the same laws and it removes one thing to moan about and perhaps reduces chances of deaths or injuries. |
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"I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 30 zone on my R6, another bollocking.
Both times no ticket...
Merseyside police were good back in the day.
But that's not good. That's a shit officer letting someone get away with some seriously dangerous driving. Do you really think that was good?!
Were you 17, or just far too self-absorbed to think about anyone else?
I was 29 at the time, just got back on the back after 4 weeks due to having 3 weeks of radiotherapy. It felt good to blow the cob webs away.
The fact you had just made it through radiotherapy would be a comfort to the parents of the kid you could have killed in that 30 zone. I am sure they would have slept better knowing that."
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"I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 30 zone on my R6, another bollocking.
Both times no ticket...
Merseyside police were good back in the day.
But that's not good. That's a shit officer letting someone get away with some seriously dangerous driving. Do you really think that was good?!
Were you 17, or just far too self-absorbed to think about anyone else?
I was 29 at the time, just got back on the back after 4 weeks due to having 3 weeks of radiotherapy. It felt good to blow the cob webs away.
The fact you had just made it through radiotherapy would be a comfort to the parents of the kid you could have killed in that 30 zone. I am sure they would have slept better knowing that.
So glad I never mentioned hitting 155 on M57 then, god knows what grief I might have gotten."
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"I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 30 zone on my R6, another bollocking.
Both times no ticket...
Merseyside police were good back in the day.
But that's not good. That's a shit officer letting someone get away with some seriously dangerous driving. Do you really think that was good?!
Were you 17, or just far too self-absorbed to think about anyone else?
I was 29 at the time, just got back on the back after 4 weeks due to having 3 weeks of radiotherapy. It felt good to blow the cob webs away.
The fact you had just made it through radiotherapy would be a comfort to the parents of the kid you could have killed in that 30 zone. I am sure they would have slept better knowing that.
So glad I never mentioned hitting 155 on M57 then, god knows what grief I might have gotten."
Personally, I am full of shit.
But you carry on with your story |
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By *apybarasCouple
over a year ago
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"It did cross my thoughts a while ago when those two boys were killed on an electric bike, that when you fit an electric motor in a bike it becomes a motor vehicle?
There’s a difference between a pedal assist bike and an electric motor driven bike without pedals.
The two boys were riding the latter which is illegal as it’s classed as a vehicle.
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They are also only supposed to be assisted when pedalling, and below a certain power output. So all those people whizzing past very fast whilst not pedalling are probably breaking a couple of laws at least. |
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"I got pulled over for doing 70 in a 30 zone on my R6, another bollocking.
Both times no ticket...
Merseyside police were good back in the day.
But that's not good. That's a shit officer letting someone get away with some seriously dangerous driving. Do you really think that was good?!
Were you 17, or just far too self-absorbed to think about anyone else?
I was 29 at the time, just got back on the back after 4 weeks due to having 3 weeks of radiotherapy. It felt good to blow the cob webs away.
The fact you had just made it through radiotherapy would be a comfort to the parents of the kid you could have killed in that 30 zone. I am sure they would have slept better knowing that.
So glad I never mentioned hitting 155 on M57 then, god knows what grief I might have gotten.
Personally, I am full of shit.
But you carry on with your story"
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"People trying to make excuses for cyclists speeding or trying to justify it... Its ok because... No its not ok. Nor is it ok for cars. Or those bloody electic scooters or powered bikes... Police losing credibility due to their haphazard application of the laws. Speeding is speeding. Apply the same laws and it removes one thing to moan about and perhaps reduces chances of deaths or injuries. "
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"Where is Jennie when you need her. She was once a WPC.
The offence is cycling furiously.... Jail the buggers "
Its actually 'Wantonly and Furiously Propelling a Carriage'
Speed in and of itself dkws nkt. ame driving or riding Dangerous. If that were the case all drivers caught speeding would be charged with dangerous driving.
Speed limits on roads apply to 'mechanicaly propelled vehicles'. Cycles do not fall into this category. Ergo, officers giving suitable words of advice in this case is wholly appropriate |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"Where is Jennie when you need her. She was once a WPC.
The offence is cycling furiously.... Jail the buggers
Its actually 'Wantonly and Furiously Propelling a Carriage'
Speed in and of itself dkws nkt. ame driving or riding Dangerous. If that were the case all drivers caught speeding would be charged with dangerous driving.
Speed limits on roads apply to 'mechanicaly propelled vehicles'. Cycles do not fall into this category. Ergo, officers giving suitable words of advice in this case is wholly appropriate "
Not sure you know the law Jennie. Mind you, I think your career was pretty much sat behind a desk I imagine... |
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"Where is Jennie when you need her. She was once a WPC.
The offence is cycling furiously.... Jail the buggers
Its actually 'Wantonly and Furiously Propelling a Carriage'
Speed in and of itself dkws nkt. ame driving or riding Dangerous. If that were the case all drivers caught speeding would be charged with dangerous driving.
Speed limits on roads apply to 'mechanicaly propelled vehicles'. Cycles do not fall into this category. Ergo, officers giving suitable words of advice in this case is wholly appropriate
Not sure you know the law Jennie. Mind you, I think your career was pretty much sat behind a desk I imagine... "
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"Where is Jennie when you need her. She was once a WPC.
The offence is cycling furiously.... Jail the buggers
Its actually 'Wantonly and Furiously Propelling a Carriage'
Speed in and of itself dkws nkt. ame driving or riding Dangerous. If that were the case all drivers caught speeding would be charged with dangerous driving.
Speed limits on roads apply to 'mechanicaly propelled vehicles'. Cycles do not fall into this category. Ergo, officers giving suitable words of advice in this case is wholly appropriate "
Everydays a school day... So for the deathtraps that are electric bikes... You know the ones deliveroo or just eat d4ivers use whilst clad entirely in blavk, with a phone in one hand and a vape in the other... Are they exempt from speeding offences also? |
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ...."
What's going on they had the wind behind them, going down hill |
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"Where is Jennie when you need her. She was once a WPC.
The offence is cycling furiously.... Jail the buggers
Its actually 'Wantonly and Furiously Propelling a Carriage'
Speed in and of itself dkws nkt. ame driving or riding Dangerous. If that were the case all drivers caught speeding would be charged with dangerous driving.
Speed limits on roads apply to 'mechanicaly propelled vehicles'. Cycles do not fall into this category. Ergo, officers giving suitable words of advice in this case is wholly appropriate
Everydays a school day... So for the deathtraps that are electric bikes... You know the ones deliveroo or just eat d4ivers use whilst clad entirely in blavk, with a phone in one hand and a vape in the other... Are they exempt from speeding offences also? "
If they are mechanically propelled, the law applies |
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"Where is Jennie when you need her. She was once a WPC.
The offence is cycling furiously.... Jail the buggers
Its actually 'Wantonly and Furiously Propelling a Carriage'
Speed in and of itself dkws nkt. ame driving or riding Dangerous. If that were the case all drivers caught speeding would be charged with dangerous driving.
Speed limits on roads apply to 'mechanicaly propelled vehicles'. Cycles do not fall into this category. Ergo, officers giving suitable words of advice in this case is wholly appropriate
Everydays a school day... So for the deathtraps that are electric bikes... You know the ones deliveroo or just eat d4ivers use whilst clad entirely in blavk, with a phone in one hand and a vape in the other... Are they exempt from speeding offences also?
If they are mechanically propelled, the law applies"
but mechanically assisted, no |
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"Where is Jennie when you need her. She was once a WPC.
The offence is cycling furiously.... Jail the buggers
Its actually 'Wantonly and Furiously Propelling a Carriage'
Speed in and of itself dkws nkt. ame driving or riding Dangerous. If that were the case all drivers caught speeding would be charged with dangerous driving.
Speed limits on roads apply to 'mechanicaly propelled vehicles'. Cycles do not fall into this category. Ergo, officers giving suitable words of advice in this case is wholly appropriate
Everydays a school day... So for the deathtraps that are electric bikes... You know the ones deliveroo or just eat d4ivers use whilst clad entirely in blavk, with a phone in one hand and a vape in the other... Are they exempt from speeding offences also?
If they are mechanically propelled, the law applies"
So.. Is that a yes or a no as they are electrically propelled? |
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"Where is Jennie when you need her. She was once a WPC.
The offence is cycling furiously.... Jail the buggers
Its actually 'Wantonly and Furiously Propelling a Carriage'
Speed in and of itself dkws nkt. ame driving or riding Dangerous. If that were the case all drivers caught speeding would be charged with dangerous driving.
Speed limits on roads apply to 'mechanicaly propelled vehicles'. Cycles do not fall into this category. Ergo, officers giving suitable words of advice in this case is wholly appropriate
Everydays a school day... So for the deathtraps that are electric bikes... You know the ones deliveroo or just eat d4ivers use whilst clad entirely in blavk, with a phone in one hand and a vape in the other... Are they exempt from speeding offences also?
If they are mechanically propelled, the law applies
So.. Is that a yes or a no as they are electrically propelled? "
If they are propelled mechanically, yes.
If they are propelled by pedals and only electrically assisted, no. |
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" Its actually 'Wantonly and Furiously Propelling a Carriage'
Manual wheelchairs count, right?! 4mph is painfully slow "
Theoretically yes, they are carriages |
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"I for one would love to hear the coppers excuse for not giving a ticket and points as said if it was a car not a cat in hells chance they would have not been fined and points talk about one rule for one another rule for others.my nephew just been done 1 mile above 3 points yes he was speeding so got what he deserved according to the police."
You cannot be prosecuted for 1mph over
They have to give a 3mph Grace allowance plus 10% of the speed limit for example 30 mph speed limit - cannot get prosecuted unless doing 37 |
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"I for one would love to hear the coppers excuse for not giving a ticket and points as said if it was a car not a cat in hells chance they would have not been fined and points talk about one rule for one another rule for others.my nephew just been done 1 mile above 3 points yes he was speeding so got what he deserved according to the police.
You cannot be prosecuted for 1mph over
They have to give a 3mph Grace allowance plus 10% of the speed limit for example 30 mph speed limit - cannot get prosecuted unless doing 37 "
They can, they just dont. |
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ....
What's going on they had the wind behind them, going down hill "
When I was younger I used to be able to keep cycling at about 35 to 37, I started at Carmel college and kept it going to the pilks head office. That is if you didn't hit a red light. |
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"Speed limits do not apply to cyclists, only to motor vehicles and their drivers. Dog whistles, what-aboutaries and general hatred towards certain demographics don't have any effect on the law, although I'm sure there will still be plenty of people wasting their time arguing the toss about it and making asses of themselves.
Spoken like a true lycra clad two wheeled warrior. "
Really? I'm disabled, I couldn't ride a bike even if I wanted to!
It was written as a normal rational human being who understands law. Opinions, biases and ignorance does not over ride the law no matter how much anyone and their self importance thinks they should.
In my opinion, I think I was right about there being plenty of people who would make asses of themselves. |
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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago
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I think we need a survey done on the difference in pain level from getting hit by a cyclist at 30mph and a car at 30mph, it might even be less with the car as you have the chance of sliding over the bonnet and roof and landing with a gentle flop behind where as the cyclist is likely to go straight through you |
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Given bicycles aren’t fitted with calibrated speedometers (because they are bicycles, not cars) the correct action was to have a quiet word and ask them to slow down and ride appropriately.
40 feels pretty fast on a bike and would hurt if you binned it. Small contact patch, crappy brakes. Bad idea.
I think my personal record was around 50, keeping up with traffic on a steep downhill.
A puncture doing 10mph put me in A+E despite wearing a decent helmet. |
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"Where is Jennie when you need her. She was once a WPC.
The offence is cycling furiously.... Jail the buggers
Its actually 'Wantonly and Furiously Propelling a Carriage'
Speed in and of itself dkws nkt. ame driving or riding Dangerous. If that were the case all drivers caught speeding would be charged with dangerous driving.
Speed limits on roads apply to 'mechanicaly propelled vehicles'. Cycles do not fall into this category. Ergo, officers giving suitable words of advice in this case is wholly appropriate
Everydays a school day... So for the deathtraps that are electric bikes... You know the ones deliveroo or just eat d4ivers use whilst clad entirely in blavk, with a phone in one hand and a vape in the other... Are they exempt from speeding offences also?
If they are mechanically propelled, the law applies
So.. Is that a yes or a no as they are electrically propelled?
If they are propelled mechanically, yes.
If they are propelled by pedals and only electrically assisted, no. "
That doesn't sound right - if they're assisted, then in part they're mechanically propelled, now? Pedaling is like pressing the button that sets the motor in motion. |
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"Pedaling is like pressing the button that sets the motor in motion. "
No, you need to be providing a certain level of torque before the motor assists you.
Unless you have one of those illegal Chinese E-mopeds. |
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"Given bicycles aren’t fitted with calibrated speedometers (because they are bicycles, not cars) the correct action was to have a quiet word and ask them to slow down and ride appropriately.
40 feels pretty fast on a bike and would hurt if you binned it. Small contact patch, crappy brakes. Bad idea.
I think my personal record was around 50, keeping up with traffic on a steep downhill.
A puncture doing 10mph put me in A+E despite wearing a decent helmet. "
Bike computers (speedo) are generally more accurate than car ones, they are set up with the exact circumference of the tyre. Car speedo's are deliberately set to show a higher speed than you're actually going... |
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ....
Since legally speed limits don’t apply to bicycles then they wouldn’t get the same treatment, no matter how much we might prefer it. I’m also presuming that e-bikes or steep hills were involved, unless they borrowed Sir Chis Hoy’s legs for the day."
Ive just watched the footage, they were going down hill |
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"Given bicycles aren’t fitted with calibrated speedometers (because they are bicycles, not cars) the correct action was to have a quiet word and ask them to slow down and ride appropriately.
40 feels pretty fast on a bike and would hurt if you binned it. Small contact patch, crappy brakes. Bad idea.
I think my personal record was around 50, keeping up with traffic on a steep downhill.
A puncture doing 10mph put me in A+E despite wearing a decent helmet.
Bike computers (speedo) are generally more accurate than car ones, they are set up with the exact circumference of the tyre. Car speedo's are deliberately set to show a higher speed than you're actually going..."
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"Given bicycles aren’t fitted with calibrated speedometers (because they are bicycles, not cars) the correct action was to have a quiet word and ask them to slow down and ride appropriately.
40 feels pretty fast on a bike and would hurt if you binned it. Small contact patch, crappy brakes. Bad idea.
I think my personal record was around 50, keeping up with traffic on a steep downhill.
A puncture doing 10mph put me in A+E despite wearing a decent helmet.
Bike computers (speedo) are generally more accurate than car ones, they are set up with the exact circumference of the tyre. Car speedo's are deliberately set to show a higher speed than you're actually going..."
Thats old hat, its all GPS these days |
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ....
Since legally speed limits don’t apply to bicycles then they wouldn’t get the same treatment, no matter how much we might prefer it. I’m also presuming that e-bikes or steep hills were involved, unless they borrowed Sir Chis Hoy’s legs for the day.
Ive just watched the footage, they were going down hill "
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ....
Since legally speed limits don’t apply to bicycles then they wouldn’t get the same treatment, no matter how much we might prefer it. I’m also presuming that e-bikes or steep hills were involved, unless they borrowed Sir Chis Hoy’s legs for the day.
Ive just watched the footage, they were going down hill
And that makes it acceptable?"
Doesn't matter if it's acceptable or not, what matters is that it isn't illegal. |
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"Given bicycles aren’t fitted with calibrated speedometers (because they are bicycles, not cars) the correct action was to have a quiet word and ask them to slow down and ride appropriately.
40 feels pretty fast on a bike and would hurt if you binned it. Small contact patch, crappy brakes. Bad idea.
I think my personal record was around 50, keeping up with traffic on a steep downhill.
A puncture doing 10mph put me in A+E despite wearing a decent helmet.
Bike computers (speedo) are generally more accurate than car ones, they are set up with the exact circumference of the tyre. Car speedo's are deliberately set to show a higher speed than you're actually going...
Thats old hat, its all GPS these days"
My Garmin GPS computer still has a wheel sensor |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I once got points on my driving license for being d*unk on a push bike.
Fair enough"
This and the 1mph speeding offence never happened.
D*unk cycling isn’t a motoring offence therefore you can’t get points, you could however be fined.
Not sure why people make this stuff up?
(Feel free to post your NIP and prove me wrong)
D*unk in charge of one of those electric scooters is a whole different issue, you’d actually be done for d*unken driving, this has happened many times.
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By *archelCouple
over a year ago
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You cannot be prosecuted for 1mph over
They have to give a 3mph Grace allowance plus 10% of the speed limit for example 30 mph speed limit - cannot get prosecuted unless doing 37 "
Wrong, the 10% +1 is solely at the discretion of the chief constable of any given police force. |
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You cannot be prosecuted for 1mph over
They have to give a 3mph Grace allowance plus 10% of the speed limit for example 30 mph speed limit - cannot get prosecuted unless doing 37
Wrong, the 10% +1 is solely at the discretion of the chief constable of any given police force."
The 10% i believe is to allow for speedometer inaccuracy |
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You cannot be prosecuted for 1mph over
They have to give a 3mph Grace allowance plus 10% of the speed limit for example 30 mph speed limit - cannot get prosecuted unless doing 37
Wrong, the 10% +1 is solely at the discretion of the chief constable of any given police force."
You’re spot in, it is at the discretion of the chief Constable, but being pedantic, it’s 10% + 2mph. |
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"Given bicycles aren’t fitted with calibrated speedometers (because they are bicycles, not cars) the correct action was to have a quiet word and ask them to slow down and ride appropriately.
40 feels pretty fast on a bike and would hurt if you binned it. Small contact patch, crappy brakes. Bad idea.
I think my personal record was around 50, keeping up with traffic on a steep downhill.
A puncture doing 10mph put me in A+E despite wearing a decent helmet.
Bike computers (speedo) are generally more accurate than car ones, they are set up with the exact circumference of the tyre. Car speedo's are deliberately set to show a higher speed than you're actually going...
Thats old hat, its all GPS these days
My Garmin GPS computer still has a wheel sensor"
It must be very old |
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"Given bicycles aren’t fitted with calibrated speedometers (because they are bicycles, not cars) the correct action was to have a quiet word and ask them to slow down and ride appropriately.
40 feels pretty fast on a bike and would hurt if you binned it. Small contact patch, crappy brakes. Bad idea.
I think my personal record was around 50, keeping up with traffic on a steep downhill.
A puncture doing 10mph put me in A+E despite wearing a decent helmet.
Bike computers (speedo) are generally more accurate than car ones, they are set up with the exact circumference of the tyre. Car speedo's are deliberately set to show a higher speed than you're actually going...
Thats old hat, its all GPS these days
My Garmin GPS computer still has a wheel sensor
It must be very old"
"old" stuff still exists |
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ...."
Takes some doing on a bike, they should be applauded tom |
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You cannot be prosecuted for 1mph over
They have to give a 3mph Grace allowance plus 10% of the speed limit for example 30 mph speed limit - cannot get prosecuted unless doing 37
Wrong, the 10% +1 is solely at the discretion of the chief constable of any given police force."
So you’re saying every speeding offence that’s within this zone is put to the chief constable???? I doubt that. |
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You cannot be prosecuted for 1mph over
They have to give a 3mph Grace allowance plus 10% of the speed limit for example 30 mph speed limit - cannot get prosecuted unless doing 37
Wrong, the 10% +1 is solely at the discretion of the chief constable of any given police force.
So you’re saying every speeding offence that’s within this zone is put to the chief constable???? I doubt that. "
The Chief Constable gives guidance to their force on what speed they should look to prosecute at.
They obviously don’t look at every case.
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"The Chief of Police for Dartmoor has announced capture of a group of cyclists doing nearly 40mph in a 30 mph limit. They were offered words of advice. Would a motorist have got this treatment or would they have thrown the book at him
What's going on here guy? It's all over the news ....
Since legally speed limits don’t apply to bicycles then they wouldn’t get the same treatment, no matter how much we might prefer it. I’m also presuming that e-bikes or steep hills were involved, unless they borrowed Sir Chis Hoy’s legs for the day.
Ive just watched the footage, they were going down hill
And that makes it acceptable?"
Nothings acceptable to you tommy |
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"Given bicycles aren’t fitted with calibrated speedometers (because they are bicycles, not cars) the correct action was to have a quiet word and ask them to slow down and ride appropriately.
40 feels pretty fast on a bike and would hurt if you binned it. Small contact patch, crappy brakes. Bad idea.
I think my personal record was around 50, keeping up with traffic on a steep downhill.
A puncture doing 10mph put me in A+E despite wearing a decent helmet.
Bike computers (speedo) are generally more accurate than car ones, they are set up with the exact circumference of the tyre. Car speedo's are deliberately set to show a higher speed than you're actually going...
Thats old hat, its all GPS these days
My Garmin GPS computer still has a wheel sensor
It must be very old
"old" stuff still exists "
Why does it need a wheel sensor? |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
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"What would they do in Europe though for this issue?"
Allow the cyclist to proceed unhindered according to the relevant national legislation. One area where British Exceptionalism is unusually accurate is around their arrogant disdain for cyclists.
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By (user no longer on site)
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In mainland Europe, motorists are very tolerant of cyclists, it’s why cycling in places like France and Spain is so much fun.
It’s just a shame that many UK drivers aren’t less shit. |
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"In mainland Europe, motorists are very tolerant of cyclists, it’s why cycling in places like France and Spain is so much fun.
It’s just a shame that many UK drivers aren’t less shit. "
Its a fair point. I think the key word is culture.
I think you can say the same when comparing our cyclists with theirs. Example ive never seen cyclist s in Germany all in black cycling at night with no lights... Or pulling wheelies riding on the wrong side of the road daring and threatening motorists.. Or undertaking buses or cycling on footpaths, jumping lights.... Because they are policed and as you say, have a healthy cycling culture and environment for all roadusers |
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"Given bicycles aren’t fitted with calibrated speedometers (because they are bicycles, not cars) the correct action was to have a quiet word and ask them to slow down and ride appropriately.
40 feels pretty fast on a bike and would hurt if you binned it. Small contact patch, crappy brakes. Bad idea.
I think my personal record was around 50, keeping up with traffic on a steep downhill.
A puncture doing 10mph put me in A+E despite wearing a decent helmet.
Bike computers (speedo) are generally more accurate than car ones, they are set up with the exact circumference of the tyre. Car speedo's are deliberately set to show a higher speed than you're actually going...
Thats old hat, its all GPS these days
My Garmin GPS computer still has a wheel sensor
It must be very old"
No, it improves accuracy. It is an option on every GPS computer I've looked at including the ones used by professionals.
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"In mainland Europe, motorists are very tolerant of cyclists, it’s why cycling in places like France and Spain is so much fun.
It’s just a shame that many UK drivers aren’t less shit.
Its a fair point. I think the key word is culture.
I think you can say the same when comparing our cyclists with theirs. Example ive never seen cyclist s in Germany all in black cycling at night with no lights... Or pulling wheelies riding on the wrong side of the road daring and threatening motorists.. Or undertaking buses or cycling on footpaths, jumping lights.... Because they are policed and as you say, have a healthy cycling culture and environment for all roadusers"
I think that there needs to be a distinction made between cyclists & "people on bikes", there is a world of difference between the teenagers doing wheelies down the middle of the road & the guys/gals commuting to work, or riding for fun & exercise.
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"In mainland Europe, motorists are very tolerant of cyclists, it’s why cycling in places like France and Spain is so much fun.
It’s just a shame that many UK drivers aren’t less shit.
Its a fair point. I think the key word is culture.
I think you can say the same when comparing our cyclists with theirs. Example ive never seen cyclist s in Germany all in black cycling at night with no lights... Or pulling wheelies riding on the wrong side of the road daring and threatening motorists.. Or undertaking buses or cycling on footpaths, jumping lights.... Because they are policed and as you say, have a healthy cycling culture and environment for all roadusers
I think that there needs to be a distinction made between cyclists & "people on bikes", there is a world of difference between the teenagers doing wheelies down the middle of the road & the guys/gals commuting to work, or riding for fun & exercise.
Cal "
Maybe. But using that same thought process. You could say the same about car drivers v person in a car. I think thats part of the issue. Tolerance of twats on bikes and in cars. People on a bike on a public highway need to follow the laws, as do all other road users. As someone above said, a better and healthier respect for the laws and other road users is necessary. Its not going to get any better with the ebikes and scooters and seeming absence of policing apart from speed cam police. |
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usually for speeding theres like a 10% grace amount where an officer can use discretion, but given cyclists (not all before anyone jumps on me) you see jumping red lights, knocking wing mirrors trying to pass cars, on mobile phones, riding in the dark without lights you can see why this speeding story is infuriating to motorists.
unfortunately the police do turn a blind eye to alot of cyclist offences even when they happen right in front of them |
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"Not defending them but my understanding is you can’t be done for speeding on a push bike as the Highway Code or whatever makes no allowance for it?? Anyone confirm or deny this??"
Speed limits apply to motorised vehicles so there is no offence of speeding for a bicycle |
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