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"I find the whole body count topic immature. What a person has done in their life before meeting getting to know a person they want to be in a relationship with is not the person's business or should be any concern The present and future with them should be more vital and of relevance " Precisely this! | |||
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"Depends how big their patio is and if they’re gonna wanna start digging mine up " I keep mine in the basement. But need a few more chest freezers. | |||
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"Did you actually call it a body count?? " Well I keep their heads on the wall as a reminder! | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship?" Only an issue if their adding to the body count without my knowledge | |||
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"Depends how big their patio is and if they’re gonna wanna start digging mine up " Patios are so 80's it's all about the acid baths these days | |||
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"Nope. Mrs was probably 10x mine when we met, absolutely not an issue, and we've probably since doubled hers. " Some men really don't like it when a woman has a higher count. But clearly #notallmen! | |||
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"Did you actually call it a body count?? " Me? No. I just used the term as people recognise it. | |||
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"It's not something I'd discuss with a guy " Ok. I think for many people, that topic comes up when dating. I don't mean for a swinging "meet". | |||
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"It's not something I'd discuss with a guy " I'll second that neither would I | |||
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"It's not something I'd discuss with a guy Ok. I think for many people, that topic comes up when dating. I don't mean for a swinging "meet"." At my age, I'd think a guy pretty immature if he brought it up...especially when dating | |||
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"It's not something I'd discuss with a guy Ok. I think for many people, that topic comes up when dating. I don't mean for a swinging "meet"." does it? I haven't dated since the stone age I don't think I'd be very good at it now | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship?" I've found that the majority of men,despite what they may say when they first meet me, have an issue with my body count.... and me being me. | |||
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"On a fuck / swingers site (delete as applicable) then we’re all (mostly) going to have a liberal attitude to sexual freedom. Not all people do though and may see past behaviour as an indicator of future conduct? Who knows? I guess it was a concern of theirs, for whatever reason, before embarking on a long term / lasting relationship. I guess it’s best to know if they have an issue with it early on so it doesn’t simmer away under the surface - if it’s going to be an issue then ultimately you were never going to be fully compatible? Maybe? I dunno. " Yeah you'd think everyone here would be open-minded, but I've seen both men and women comment that they'd never date anyone from Fab. Is body count part of the reason? | |||
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"It's not something I'd discuss with a guy Ok. I think for many people, that topic comes up when dating. I don't mean for a swinging "meet". does it? I haven't dated since the stone age I don't think I'd be very good at it now" I have fairly recent experience and Im utterly pants at it. | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship?" Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes | |||
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"It's not something I'd discuss with a guy Ok. I think for many people, that topic comes up when dating. I don't mean for a swinging "meet". does it? I haven't dated since the stone age I don't think I'd be very good at it now I have fairly recent experience and Im utterly pants at it. " I bet you're not . I honestly don't think I could be bothered | |||
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"It's not something I'd discuss with a guy Ok. I think for many people, that topic comes up when dating. I don't mean for a swinging "meet". does it? I haven't dated since the stone age I don't think I'd be very good at it now I have fairly recent experience and Im utterly pants at it. I bet you're not . I honestly don't think I could be bothered " It is so tedious! I can only stand the apps for a couple of weeks and then I delete them all again. | |||
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"Depends how big their patio is and if they’re gonna wanna start digging mine up I keep mine in the basement. But need a few more chest freezers." Amateur! Walk in freezer | |||
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"I lost count years ago…… " But what if the woman you wanted to date had lost count too? | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes" Can you say why you have that preference? | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Can you say why you have that preference? " Im not attracted to promiscuity in a romantic partner | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship?" Nope not at all. Plus Mine is absolutely shocking for civilians I guess lol | |||
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"It's not something I'd discuss with a guy Ok. I think for many people, that topic comes up when dating. I don't mean for a swinging "meet"." Never has with me in fact neither wants to bring up the subject re ex's as it's about the now | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Nope not at all. Plus Mine is absolutely shocking for civilians I guess lol " Civilians! | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Nope not at all. Plus Mine is absolutely shocking for civilians I guess lol Civilians! " It’s the term I use for non adult industry or swinger / fetish lifestyle folk. You are either part of it or you are a civvie | |||
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"I would have no respect for a partner who made a big deal about it." I know why my ex had a problem, it was because he'd been cheated on. It was his problem though. I still don't understand why a few guys were bothered that they had less experience than I have. I've never been bothered if a man has less or more. | |||
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"Depends how big their patio is and if they’re gonna wanna start digging mine up " Dam...I thought I was the only one that would write this! | |||
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"I'm very open about who I am and what I enjoy, including sex. So I've never got involved with anyone who was put off by those things. Has it limited my dating pool? Possibly. Would I have been compatible long (or even short) term with the sort of people who take issue with it? No. So it's no loss " Interesting that you think it has limited your dating pool? I think so too. But we are what we are. Im not apologising for my body count. | |||
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"I would have no respect for a partner who made a big deal about it. I know why my ex had a problem, it was because he'd been cheated on. It was his problem though. I still don't understand why a few guys were bothered that they had less experience than I have. I've never been bothered if a man has less or more. " Its a preference. Everyone has preferences | |||
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"Best not to ask questions you might not like the answer to. Has no relation to whether they are loyal or not" I'd prefer not to have secrets with a partner. I agree about loyalty, if you think that's an issue for some people? | |||
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"Best not to ask questions you might not like the answer to. Has no relation to whether they are loyal or not I'd prefer not to have secrets with a partner. I agree about loyalty, if you think that's an issue for some people? " Would you offer the information if a guy you were dating didn’t ask? | |||
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"Interesting that you think it has limited your dating pool? I think so too. But we are what we are. Im not apologising for my body count." I just meant there are people who would definitely refuse to date me based purely on my body count. But, like I say, those people are obviously people I wouldn't actually be compatible with. If anything, it cuts down on time wasted on people that aren't the right fit, giving me more time and opportunity to date the people that are | |||
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"My “body-count” is my own business. No one else’s and it never will be. Clearly as a 47 year old woman who has been married then I’m not a virgin. Anything else is discussed on a need to know business. That is I know and they don’t need to " Share with the group litte bird, how many bags of haribo you smashed | |||
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"Is there actually any difference between having sex with 1 person 100 times or 100 people just once, still the same amount of sex right? " I don’t think it’s the amount of sex, it’s the amount of partners. Some folk don’t want to date promiscuous people, whatever their reasoning. | |||
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"My “body-count” is my own business. No one else’s and it never will be. Clearly as a 47 year old woman who has been married then I’m not a virgin. Anything else is discussed on a need to know business. That is I know and they don’t need to Share with the group litte bird, how many bags of haribo you smashed " All of them… and I’m proud | |||
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"My “body-count” is my own business. No one else’s and it never will be. Clearly as a 47 year old woman who has been married then I’m not a virgin. Anything else is discussed on a need to know business. That is I know and they don’t need to Share with the group litte bird, how many bags of haribo you smashed All of them… and I’m proud " How many at once, we all love group sweet play | |||
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"My “body-count” is my own business. No one else’s and it never will be. Clearly as a 47 year old woman who has been married then I’m not a virgin. Anything else is discussed on a need to know business. That is I know and they don’t need to Share with the group litte bird, how many bags of haribo you smashed All of them… and I’m proud How many at once, we all love group sweet play " No more than a bag full at once | |||
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"I'm very open about who I am and what I enjoy, including sex. So I've never got involved with anyone who was put off by those things. Has it limited my dating pool? Possibly. Would I have been compatible long (or even short) term with the sort of people who take issue with it? No. So it's no loss Interesting that you think it has limited your dating pool? I think so too. But we are what we are. Im not apologising for my body count. " Do you really expect to be asked to though? And why look back? It can be an issue though I guess. My last partner, when we broke up I probably agreed with her that we could never do the trust quite right, even though it wasn't expressly why we split. We were both bi and lived quite far apart. We never talked about sex too much, and partly we split because we couldn't go that deep at all about anything really. We were too different. Personally I wasn't all that interested in hearing or talking about it I suppose, though we skirted a bit. I think there were other things that mattered more, like how uncommunicative we could be in general! So you didn't need to hear any of that I guess! I'm just saying it's all about looking forward surely? Especially if you are in something monogamous anyway, as mine tend to be. pt | |||
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"My “body-count” is my own business. No one else’s and it never will be. Clearly as a 47 year old woman who has been married then I’m not a virgin. Anything else is discussed on a need to know business. That is I know and they don’t need to " Just out of interest, How would you handle the question if a prospective partner if they asked? | |||
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"Is there actually any difference between having sex with 1 person 100 times or 100 people just once, still the same amount of sex right? " That's pretty much how my brain responds to this one every time to be honest. | |||
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"My “body-count” is my own business. No one else’s and it never will be. Clearly as a 47 year old woman who has been married then I’m not a virgin. Anything else is discussed on a need to know business. That is I know and they don’t need to Just out of interest, How would you handle the question if a prospective partner if they asked?" I would say I’ve been married. That’s at least 2. The rest is all gravy baby. Not to be confused with baby gravy | |||
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"Lots of men have an issue with it but don't having an issue with a high one themselves Best bet is to just date women? In general we don't care " What do you mean 'dont having an issue with a high one themselves'? They're not dating themselves are they. Women are entitled to have an issue with a mans body count if they wish | |||
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"Is there actually any difference between having sex with 1 person 100 times or 100 people just once, still the same amount of sex right? That's pretty much how my brain responds to this one every time to be honest." And mine | |||
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"Best not to ask questions you might not like the answer to. Has no relation to whether they are loyal or not I'd prefer not to have secrets with a partner. I agree about loyalty, if you think that's an issue for some people? " I think some would believe you're more likely to be less loyal if it's higher | |||
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"Best not to ask questions you might not like the answer to. Has no relation to whether they are loyal or not I'd prefer not to have secrets with a partner. I agree about loyalty, if you think that's an issue for some people? I think some would believe you're more likely to be less loyal if it's higher" And they are entitled to believe that… They’re also likely not to be right. But hey ho. Isn’t life full of crazy ideas we all have sometimes * This is from my own point of view… obviously | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Can you say why you have that preference? Im not attracted to promiscuity in a romantic partner " yet your on a swinger site.... so your obviously promiscuous? | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship?" I don't know what irs got to do with them. It's for you and not them. You do what you want and F them I say. | |||
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"Is there actually any difference between having sex with 1 person 100 times or 100 people just once, still the same amount of sex right? That's pretty much how my brain responds to this one every time to be honest. And mine " But they're not the same scenarios? Having a lot of sex with one person vs 100 hookups? | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? I've found that the majority of men,despite what they may say when they first meet me, have an issue with my body count.... and me being me. " Well they can get to fuck, can't they | |||
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"Best not to ask questions you might not like the answer to. Has no relation to whether they are loyal or not I'd prefer not to have secrets with a partner. I agree about loyalty, if you think that's an issue for some people? I think some would believe you're more likely to be less loyal if it's higher And they are entitled to believe that… They’re also likely not to be right. But hey ho. Isn’t life full of crazy ideas we all have sometimes * This is from my own point of view… obviously " I agree. I've never cheated and I'm very loyal. But obvs if people have made their minds up... | |||
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"Is there actually any difference between having sex with 1 person 100 times or 100 people just once, still the same amount of sex right? That's pretty much how my brain responds to this one every time to be honest. And mine But they're not the same scenarios? Having a lot of sex with one person vs 100 hookups? " But why aren’t they? If someone has had the sex with someone else then fair play to them. I hope they had a good time. It’s absolutely fuck all to do with me | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Can you say why you have that preference? Im not attracted to promiscuity in a romantic partner yet your on a swinger site.... so your obviously promiscuous? " Yep. And whats your point? | |||
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"Is there actually any difference between having sex with 1 person 100 times or 100 people just once, still the same amount of sex right? That's pretty much how my brain responds to this one every time to be honest. And mine But they're not the same scenarios? Having a lot of sex with one person vs 100 hookups? But why aren’t they? If someone has had the sex with someone else then fair play to them. I hope they had a good time. It’s absolutely fuck all to do with me " Not everyone thinks the same do they | |||
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"Is there actually any difference between having sex with 1 person 100 times or 100 people just once, still the same amount of sex right? That's pretty much how my brain responds to this one every time to be honest. And mine But they're not the same scenarios? Having a lot of sex with one person vs 100 hookups? But why aren’t they? If someone has had the sex with someone else then fair play to them. I hope they had a good time. It’s absolutely fuck all to do with me Not everyone thinks the same do they" No they don’t. And that’s entirely up to them. As I said above. Everyone has their own preferences. Mine are mine though | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Can you say why you have that preference? Im not attracted to promiscuity in a romantic partner yet your on a swinger site.... so your obviously promiscuous? Yep. And whats your point? " that why is that okay for you, but not for a prospective partner. Screams of hypocrisy | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Can you say why you have that preference? Im not attracted to promiscuity in a romantic partner yet your on a swinger site.... so your obviously promiscuous? Yep. And whats your point? that why is that okay for you, but not for a prospective partner. Screams of hypocrisy " Ive already said 2 or 3 times in this thread, a woman is free to have the exact same preference if she wishes. Wheres the hypocrisy? | |||
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"Weight shouldn't be an issue you're body count is your business " Well women look for things in a man such as height...should that not matter either? | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes" Double standards being on a hook-up site wanting to play with lovely ladies, but not wanting to date them!! A lot of women on here are amazing human being, they are just not shy about liking lots of or kinky sex! What we do in bed doesn’t define us - we can be amazing partners, wives, mothers, workers, bosses, neighbours we just also enjoy non vanilla sex! | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Can you say why you have that preference? Im not attracted to promiscuity in a romantic partner yet your on a swinger site.... so your obviously promiscuous? Yep. And whats your point? that why is that okay for you, but not for a prospective partner. Screams of hypocrisy Ive already said 2 or 3 times in this thread, a woman is free to have the exact same preference if she wishes. Wheres the hypocrisy? " you really can't see it... saying they can have the same preference does not make it any less hypocritical.... your saying to a woman I've had 50 girls( number for example) which is fine but you have had 50 guys, that's not okay with me | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Double standards being on a hook-up site wanting to play with lovely ladies, but not wanting to date them!! A lot of women on here are amazing human being, they are just not shy about liking lots of or kinky sex! What we do in bed doesn’t define us - we can be amazing partners, wives, mothers, workers, bosses, neighbours we just also enjoy non vanilla sex! " I dont think you quite understand what a double standard is. A double standard would be me applying a different standard to myself than from the woman. Which im clearly not doing Im not doing that. I will fuck a woman off here, but not date her. Thats not a double standard. | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Double standards being on a hook-up site wanting to play with lovely ladies, but not wanting to date them!! A lot of women on here are amazing human being, they are just not shy about liking lots of or kinky sex! What we do in bed doesn’t define us - we can be amazing partners, wives, mothers, workers, bosses, neighbours we just also enjoy non vanilla sex! " I dont think you quite understand what a double standard is. A double standard would be me applying a different standard to myself than from the woman. Which im clearly not doing Im not doing that. I will fuck a woman off here, but not date her. Thats not a double standard. | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Can you say why you have that preference? Im not attracted to promiscuity in a romantic partner yet your on a swinger site.... so your obviously promiscuous? Yep. And whats your point? that why is that okay for you, but not for a prospective partner. Screams of hypocrisy Ive already said 2 or 3 times in this thread, a woman is free to have the exact same preference if she wishes. Wheres the hypocrisy? you really can't see it... saying they can have the same preference does not make it any less hypocritical.... your saying to a woman I've had 50 girls( number for example) which is fine but you have had 50 guys, that's not okay with me " Where am i saying that its fine that ive had 50 women? | |||
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"Is there actually any difference between having sex with 1 person 100 times or 100 people just once, still the same amount of sex right? That's pretty much how my brain responds to this one every time to be honest. And mine But they're not the same scenarios? Having a lot of sex with one person vs 100 hookups? But why aren’t they? If someone has had the sex with someone else then fair play to them. I hope they had a good time. It’s absolutely fuck all to do with me " Exactly! As long as my partner is STI free, what does it matter to me who he did what with before we met? I’ve dated guys who has only slept with a few people, and some who’s been part of this community and had lots of fun. And their ‘body count’ didn’t define them one bit! More important to agree on the future and what your rules and boundaries on future partners are than worry about the past! | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Double standards being on a hook-up site wanting to play with lovely ladies, but not wanting to date them!! A lot of women on here are amazing human being, they are just not shy about liking lots of or kinky sex! What we do in bed doesn’t define us - we can be amazing partners, wives, mothers, workers, bosses, neighbours we just also enjoy non vanilla sex! I dont think you quite understand what a double standard is. A double standard would be me applying a different standard to myself than from the woman. Which im clearly not doing Im not doing that. I will fuck a woman off here, but not date her. Thats not a double standard. " Why not?! Worried she won’t be impressed with you / insecure that she will compare you with part lovers? | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Double standards being on a hook-up site wanting to play with lovely ladies, but not wanting to date them!! A lot of women on here are amazing human being, they are just not shy about liking lots of or kinky sex! What we do in bed doesn’t define us - we can be amazing partners, wives, mothers, workers, bosses, neighbours we just also enjoy non vanilla sex! I dont think you quite understand what a double standard is. A double standard would be me applying a different standard to myself than from the woman. Which im clearly not doing Im not doing that. I will fuck a woman off here, but not date her. Thats not a double standard. Why not?! Worried she won’t be impressed with you / insecure that she will compare you with part lovers? " No. As I've already said, i dont find promiscuity attractive | |||
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" Where am i saying that its fine that ive had 50 women? " I said the number was for an example. It could have easily been 20 or 200... you said you are promiscuous but would not date a woman that was. It is very hypocritical and a total double standard if your on here looking to meet for fun | |||
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" Where am i saying that its fine that ive had 50 women? I said the number was for an example. It could have easily been 20 or 200... you said you are promiscuous but would not date a woman that was. It is very hypocritical and a total double standard if your on here looking to meet for fun" Feel like im banging my head against a brick wall with you. This is my PREFERENCE. A woman can have the exact same preference if she likes, and that would be fine by me. Hence how there is no double standard, no hypocrisy. I cant make this any clearer | |||
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"Why not?! Worried she won’t be impressed with you / insecure that she will compare you with part lovers? No. As I've already said, i dont find promiscuity attractive " | |||
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"This is my PREFERENCE. A woman can have the exact same preference if she likes, and that would be fine by me. Hence how there is no double standard, no hypocrisy. I cant make this any clearer" Of course. How can it be hypocrisy just because both parties in a relationship have to have vastly different standards placed upon them? If I was terrible in bed I'd want someone with a lot less experience so I didn't embarrass myself too. Personally I prefer my partners to have more than enough experience, but each to their own | |||
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" Where am i saying that its fine that ive had 50 women? I said the number was for an example. It could have easily been 20 or 200... you said you are promiscuous but would not date a woman that was. It is very hypocritical and a total double standard if your on here looking to meet for fun Feel like im banging my head against a brick wall with you. This is my PREFERENCE. A woman can have the exact same preference if she likes, and that would be fine by me. Hence how there is no double standard, no hypocrisy. I cant make this any clearer" Your view is perfectly clear and it's obvious that us ladies are banging our heads against a brick wall trying to make you understand why its hypocrisy at its best. We shall agree to disagree but I think personally its an awful attitude to have and be on a site such as this | |||
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" Where am i saying that its fine that ive had 50 women? I said the number was for an example. It could have easily been 20 or 200... you said you are promiscuous but would not date a woman that was. It is very hypocritical and a total double standard if your on here looking to meet for fun Feel like im banging my head against a brick wall with you. This is my PREFERENCE. A woman can have the exact same preference if she likes, and that would be fine by me. Hence how there is no double standard, no hypocrisy. I cant make this any clearer Your view is perfectly clear and it's obvious that us ladies are banging our heads against a brick wall trying to make you understand why its hypocrisy at its best. We shall agree to disagree but I think personally its an awful attitude to have and be on a site such as this " Let me put it another way. If i was to say that i like london to visit, but not to live there, thats not being hypocritical. However, if i was to say i dont want to live in london because of crime, but then go ahead and relocate to el salvador, then that would be hypocritical | |||
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" Where am i saying that its fine that ive had 50 women? I said the number was for an example. It could have easily been 20 or 200... you said you are promiscuous but would not date a woman that was. It is very hypocritical and a total double standard if your on here looking to meet for fun Feel like im banging my head against a brick wall with you. This is my PREFERENCE. A woman can have the exact same preference if she likes, and that would be fine by me. Hence how there is no double standard, no hypocrisy. I cant make this any clearer Your view is perfectly clear and it's obvious that us ladies are banging our heads against a brick wall trying to make you understand why its hypocrisy at its best. We shall agree to disagree but I think personally its an awful attitude to have and be on a site such as this " Let me put it another way. If i was to say that i like london to visit, but not to live there, thats not being hypocritical. However, if i was to say i dont want to live in london because of crime, but then go ahead and relocate to el salvador, then that would be hypocritical | |||
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"This is my PREFERENCE. A woman can have the exact same preference if she likes, and that would be fine by me. Hence how there is no double standard, no hypocrisy. I cant make this any clearer Of course. How can it be hypocrisy just because both parties in a relationship have to have vastly different standards placed upon them? If I was terrible in bed I'd want someone with a lot less experience so I didn't embarrass myself too. Personally I prefer my partners to have more than enough experience, but each to their own " Jesus, can you actually read? Where have i said anything about both parties in a relationship having different standards applied? Thats the very thing ive already said im NOT doing | |||
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"Of course. How can it be hypocrisy just because both parties in a relationship have to have vastly different standards placed upon them? If I was terrible in bed I'd want someone with a lot less experience so I didn't embarrass myself too. Personally I prefer my partners to have more than enough experience, but each to their own Jesus, can you actually read? Where have i said anything about both parties in a relationship having different standards applied? Thats the very thing ive already said im NOT doing" I was agreeing with you man. If you only want to date someone who doesn't know what good sex is, that's whatever. Like people who only date people over or under a certain height to maintain their relative femininity or masculinity. Or people who only date people who earn over a certain figure to pay for the lifestyle they want, or under a certain figure so they can make sure they're dependant on them. You're just here to fuck. Good luck with that. I very much doubt even those that are remotely attracted are going to catch feelings for you. So you should be completely safe from these heathen sluts trying to be a part of your actual life | |||
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"Of course. How can it be hypocrisy just because both parties in a relationship have to have vastly different standards placed upon them? If I was terrible in bed I'd want someone with a lot less experience so I didn't embarrass myself too. Personally I prefer my partners to have more than enough experience, but each to their own Jesus, can you actually read? Where have i said anything about both parties in a relationship having different standards applied? Thats the very thing ive already said im NOT doing I was agreeing with you man. If you only want to date someone who doesn't know what good sex is, that's whatever. Like people who only date people over or under a certain height to maintain their relative femininity or masculinity. Or people who only date people who earn over a certain figure to pay for the lifestyle they want, or under a certain figure so they can make sure they're dependant on them. You're just here to fuck. Good luck with that. I very much doubt even those that are remotely attracted are going to catch feelings for you. So you should be completely safe from these heathen sluts trying to be a part of your actual life " Youre clearly trying to shame me for having a preference you dont like. Instead of respecting it and moving on. I dont shame you for your preferences | |||
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" I will fuck a woman off here, but not date her. Thats not a double standard. " I personally think its really sad, that you feel like a promiscuous women is only good enough for a fuck nothing else. And can't see past anything else other than a socitial ingrained belief about promiscuous women, being only worthy of one thing. Where do you draw the line as what is acceptable promiscuous wise? But yet here you are on what is by nature a promiscuous site. | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Can you say why you have that preference? Im not attracted to promiscuity in a romantic partner yet your on a swinger site.... so your obviously promiscuous? Yep. And whats your point? that why is that okay for you, but not for a prospective partner. Screams of hypocrisy Ive already said 2 or 3 times in this thread, a woman is free to have the exact same preference if she wishes. Wheres the hypocrisy? you really can't see it... saying they can have the same preference does not make it any less hypocritical.... your saying to a woman I've had 50 girls( number for example) which is fine but you have had 50 guys, that's not okay with me " Cali you've been on the forums long enough to know that is no point in replying to certain people x | |||
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" Cali you've been on the forums long enough to know that is no point in replying to certain people x" I know, but sometimes I feel I should share some of my knowledge and maybe help someone... | |||
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"It's not something I'd discuss with a guy Ok. I think for many people, that topic comes up when dating. I don't mean for a swinging "meet"." I’ve never, in my entire dating life, had any person ask me how many people I’ve slept with. If they did, this would be reason not to consider a relationship with them. What would they gain from knowing a number? It doesn’t reveal my sexual health, or any other far more relevant details about my sex life. | |||
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"It's not something I'd discuss with a guy Ok. I think for many people, that topic comes up when dating. I don't mean for a swinging "meet". I’ve never, in my entire dating life, had any person ask me how many people I’ve slept with. If they did, this would be reason not to consider a relationship with them. What would they gain from knowing a number? It doesn’t reveal my sexual health, or any other far more relevant details about my sex life. " I've only dated a handful of times...and its been something all have asked me | |||
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"I find the whole body count topic immature. What a person has done in their life before meeting getting to know a person they want to be in a relationship with is not the person's business or should be any concern The present and future with them should be more vital and of relevance " | |||
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"This is a very interesting discussion. And there's a similar one over in the Ireland forum regarding relationships. I think anyone who is willing to use a body for sex while dismissing their value as a human being based on arbitrary judgment is just a walking red flag. On the body count. I never would have imagined this would be a problem for me until it was. Working my way through it I realised that it wasn't the number it was the level of experience she had and my own insecurities about being good enough as a lover. Took a bit to get through that but I think it might be the root of it for a few guys. Toxic masculinity is pervasive and insidious. I never imagined I could feel like that but there it was. I was in love with the most incredible woman I had ever met and I didn't feel good enough. That relationship didn't last. We were incompatible. But I haven't forgotten that I shouldn't take my reactions at face value. They need to questioned and challenged and that's always going to be worth while. Love fearlessly Fuck fearlessly " I really enjoyed reading that. I agree, our reactions and judgments are opportunities to learn about ourselves. Nothing quite like a deeply loving relationship to test one's mettle in that regard. No fear! | |||
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"Is there actually any difference between having sex with 1 person 100 times or 100 people just once, still the same amount of sex right? That's pretty much how my brain responds to this one every time to be honest. And mine But they're not the same scenarios? Having a lot of sex with one person vs 100 hookups? But why aren’t they? If someone has had the sex with someone else then fair play to them. I hope they had a good time. It’s absolutely fuck all to do with me " Having sex with one person is about intimacy, learning the other person's body and (sometimes) experimenting with new things safely because there is trust. Having 100 "meets" is about momentary physical pleasure. (Many people try new things here, but anecdotally they do them with their partners or someone they've already had sex with.) | |||
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"Interesting that you think it has limited your dating pool? I think so too. But we are what we are. Im not apologising for my body count. I just meant there are people who would definitely refuse to date me based purely on my body count. But, like I say, those people are obviously people I wouldn't actually be compatible with. If anything, it cuts down on time wasted on people that aren't the right fit, giving me more time and opportunity to date the people that are " Absolutely. I kinda see it along the same lines as being on a site like this or being kinky - they're filters aren't they? | |||
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"Depends how big their patio is and if they’re gonna wanna start digging mine up I keep mine in the basement. But need a few more chest freezers. Amateur! Walk in freezer I don't want them walking out!" Boom boom | |||
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"Gotta run a CRB check when dating. DBS, man. Get with the times! " https://youtu.be/zHOLDpbSJgU?si=xEGJPaa-cNLAafq7 Smh Kinky | |||
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"Gotta run a CRB check when dating. DBS, man. Get with the times! https://youtu.be/zHOLDpbSJgU?si=xEGJPaa-cNLAafq7 Smh Kinky " I can see your Bodyshakin' Can't listen here, though! | |||
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"Conversely, there are women who would never date fuck boys and man sluts, but don’t mind hooking up with them now and again. It’s most certainly not just men who feel this way about women." In my experience talking to women that’s not because of body count. More to do with behaviour. Fuck boys don’t display behaviours of someone you’d want to be in a relationship with | |||
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"How many people someone has slept with before I meet them is quite frankly none of my business, whether 1 or 1000. I wasn't part of their life, so what right do I have to make a judgement? Nor was I part of theirs and I'd have no issue with them asking me the question, but would probably have no idea on what number to give them. And whatever the number it wouldn't change the past. If you're looking at this from a purely monogamous, vanilla relationship then the only numbers that matter are those moving forwards and those shouldn't in theory change. If your looking at it from the perspective of a relationship involving swinging then the numbers will change dependant on what you as a couple decide you want to do together, or alone. It's nobody else's business bar the people in the relationship. Others can have opinions of course. But they mean fuck all. " Well my opinion is that this was very well expressed | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship?" Nope. It’s irrelevant (and none of my business). I’d hazard a guess this in general tends to bother men more than women. I suspect it’s also an ego thing. | |||
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"Thank you OP, and for those contributing, this is so far one of the most interesting topics I’ve read on Fab so far and also a real eye opener." Yay! I do think it's a fascinating issue because it challenges our "open mindedness". Is it open minded to think someone is worth having sex with, but not a relationship? | |||
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"I was reminded today that an ex had quite a problem with my body count. I don't recall telling him a number (because I don't know the precise number) but he still got upset. A few guys have had an issue tbh. Is it an issue for you if you want a relationship? Yes it is. I would not want a relationship with a woman with a high body count. Its a preference. A woman is free to have that preference as well if she wishes Can you say why you have that preference? Im not attracted to promiscuity in a romantic partner yet your on a swinger site.... so your obviously promiscuous? " Not any more if people read that | |||
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"Sadly Bananaman isn’t alone in his view that the women here are only good for one thing, and that sharing that view is perfectly ok. I met a male friend through the scene and we used to chat most days. For context I’d had sex with him a couple of times previously and he was keen to repeat but I wasn’t, and had friend zoned him. In one of our many conversations he expressed that he would never consider dating any women from the scene and used some shit, Andrew Tate style, analogy about a good key opening many locks, but a lock that can be opened by many keys bring a shit lock. I was amazed to hear this from him; I’d thought he was a cool guy. We chatted a little more and it turns out he didn’t see anything wrong in that attitude was surprised I didn’t accept it. He genuinely expected me to know my place as a lesser woman not worthy of a relationship because i was having recreational sex on Fab. These men are all over Fab are basically using the women here as unpaid pr0stitu*es to service them, all the while looking for someone worthy in real life to date. It’s hideous. And the worst part is they don’t see anything wrong with it. My friend couldn’t get his head round my view that my worth doesn’t change depending on where you meet me. And that if a man is a decent man he’ll treat a woman respectfully regardless of where he meets her. It blew his mind that I had that view. We’re no longer friends of course. " It's your "friend's" perspective that prompted the thread. And it's at the heart of much of the appalling behaviour and attitudes on the site. | |||
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"I'm very open about who I am and what I enjoy, including sex. So I've never got involved with anyone who was put off by those things. Has it limited my dating pool? Possibly. Would I have been compatible long (or even short) term with the sort of people who take issue with it? No. So it's no loss " ^^ This ^^ if they have a problem with it they are wrong for the relationship | |||
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" On the body count. I never would have imagined this would be a problem for me until it was. Working my way through it I realised that it wasn't the number it was the level of experience she had and my own insecurities about being good enough as a lover. Took a bit to get through that but I think it might be the root of it for a few guys. Toxic masculinity is pervasive and insidious. I never imagined I could feel like that but there it was. I was in love with the most incredible woman I had ever met and I didn't feel good enough. That relationship didn't last. We were incompatible. But I haven't forgotten that I shouldn't take my reactions at face value. They need to questioned and challenged and that's always going to be worth while. " Possibly a whole other thread here! It's fantastic that you could/can recognise your issue - I've encountered it with men multiple times and it was partly responsible for my ex and I splitting up. He couldn't stop comparing himself. | |||
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"Sadly Bananaman isn’t alone in his view that the women here are only good for one thing, and that sharing that view is perfectly ok. I met a male friend through the scene and we used to chat most days. For context I’d had sex with him a couple of times previously and he was keen to repeat but I wasn’t, and had friend zoned him. In one of our many conversations he expressed that he would never consider dating any women from the scene and used some shit, Andrew Tate style, analogy about a good key opening many locks, but a lock that can be opened by many keys bring a shit lock. I was amazed to hear this from him; I’d thought he was a cool guy. We chatted a little more and it turns out he didn’t see anything wrong in that attitude was surprised I didn’t accept it. He genuinely expected me to know my place as a lesser woman not worthy of a relationship because i was having recreational sex on Fab. These men are all over Fab are basically using the women here as unpaid pr0stitu*es to service them, all the while looking for someone worthy in real life to date. It’s hideous. And the worst part is they don’t see anything wrong with it. My friend couldn’t get his head round my view that my worth doesn’t change depending on where you meet me. And that if a man is a decent man he’ll treat a woman respectfully regardless of where he meets her. It blew his mind that I had that view. We’re no longer friends of course. It's your "friend's" perspective that prompted the thread. And it's at the heart of much of the appalling behaviour and attitudes on the site. " I agree. I find it really surprising that so many men feel so comfortable sharing the view, as though it’s not utterly abhorrent. | |||
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"Youre clearly trying to shame me for having a preference you dont like. Instead of respecting it and moving on. I dont shame you for your preferences Where's the shaming? People can have whatever preferences they like. Where was it indicated otherwise?" How about when you insinuated the only reason i like to date a woman with a low body count is because i must be crap in bed. This is a familiar tactic of women who are triggered by this preference of men. Meanwhile these same women expect their own preferences to be accepted and celebrated | |||
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"Thank you OP, and for those contributing, this is so far one of the most interesting topics I’ve read on Fab so far and also a real eye opener. Yay! I do think it's a fascinating issue because it challenges our "open mindedness". Is it open minded to think someone is worth having sex with, but not a relationship? " This and many other things. I see a good potential to a few more threads, if I’m being honest. | |||
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"Lest anyone thing this is exclusively a male problem. There is a woman in the relationships thread in the Irish forum that is of the opinion that men on fab are not worthy of dating. " This is neither exclusive to men nor a problem. Lots of people of bother sexes have this preference. Theres nothing unusual or wrong about it | |||
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"Lest anyone thing this is exclusively a male problem. There is a woman in the relationships thread in the Irish forum that is of the opinion that men on fab are not worthy of dating. This is neither exclusive to men nor a problem. Lots of people of bother sexes have this preference. Theres nothing unusual or wrong about it" You are of course welcome to your preference. I've already expressed my thoughts on it. | |||
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"Lest anyone thing this is exclusively a male problem. There is a woman in the relationships thread in the Irish forum that is of the opinion that men on fab are not worthy of dating. This is neither exclusive to men nor a problem. Lots of people of bother sexes have this preference. Theres nothing unusual or wrong about it" That’s your opinion, however it’s not shared by everyone. | |||
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"Lest anyone thing this is exclusively a male problem. There is a woman in the relationships thread in the Irish forum that is of the opinion that men on fab are not worthy of dating. " I haven’t read the thread, but I’d be interested to know whether the woman I’m question won’t from Fab because the men here have a higher body count or whether it’s another reason. I’d bet it’s another reason. | |||
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"Lest anyone thing this is exclusively a male problem. There is a woman in the relationships thread in the Irish forum that is of the opinion that men on fab are not worthy of dating. I haven’t read the thread, but I’d be interested to know whether the woman I’m question won’t from Fab because the men here have a higher body count or whether it’s another reason. I’d bet it’s another reason. " She says they are not trustworthy | |||
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"Lest anyone thing this is exclusively a male problem. There is a woman in the relationships thread in the Irish forum that is of the opinion that men on fab are not worthy of dating. I haven’t read the thread, but I’d be interested to know whether the woman I’m question won’t from Fab because the men here have a higher body count or whether it’s another reason. I’d bet it’s another reason. " Lack of trustworthiness apparently. Which is no more noble than any mans reason | |||
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"Sadly Bananaman isn’t alone in his view that the women here are only good for one thing, and that sharing that view is perfectly ok. I met a male friend through the scene and we used to chat most days. For context I’d had sex with him a couple of times previously and he was keen to repeat but I wasn’t, and had friend zoned him. In one of our many conversations he expressed that he would never consider dating any women from the scene and used some shit, Andrew Tate style, analogy about a good key opening many locks, but a lock that can be opened by many keys bring a shit lock. I was amazed to hear this from him; I’d thought he was a cool guy. We chatted a little more and it turns out he didn’t see anything wrong in that attitude was surprised I didn’t accept it. He genuinely expected me to know my place as a lesser woman not worthy of a relationship because i was having recreational sex on Fab. These men are all over Fab are basically using the women here as unpaid pr0stitu*es to service them, all the while looking for someone worthy in real life to date. It’s hideous. And the worst part is they don’t see anything wrong with it. My friend couldn’t get his head round my view that my worth doesn’t change depending on where you meet me. And that if a man is a decent man he’ll treat a woman respectfully regardless of where he meets her. It blew his mind that I had that view. We’re no longer friends of course. " I think a lot of men and women would share this opinion to be honest. | |||
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"Lest anyone thing this is exclusively a male problem. There is a woman in the relationships thread in the Irish forum that is of the opinion that men on fab are not worthy of dating. I haven’t read the thread, but I’d be interested to know whether the woman I’m question won’t from Fab because the men here have a higher body count or whether it’s another reason. I’d bet it’s another reason. She says they are not trustworthy " That’s very different to body count. | |||
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"Lest anyone thing this is exclusively a male problem. There is a woman in the relationships thread in the Irish forum that is of the opinion that men on fab are not worthy of dating. I haven’t read the thread, but I’d be interested to know whether the woman I’m question won’t from Fab because the men here have a higher body count or whether it’s another reason. I’d bet it’s another reason. She says they are not trustworthy " I've seen a number of women on the forum say they wouldn't date from here. I personally think that it's massively hypocritical to not trust a man because he's here but expect a man to trust you. Same as with the body count - expecting them to be "pure" when you're not. I'm personally unable to see why having sex with more people makes anyone untrustworthy. | |||
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"Lest anyone thing this is exclusively a male problem. There is a woman in the relationships thread in the Irish forum that is of the opinion that men on fab are not worthy of dating. I haven’t read the thread, but I’d be interested to know whether the woman I’m question won’t from Fab because the men here have a higher body count or whether it’s another reason. I’d bet it’s another reason. Lack of trustworthiness apparently. Which is no more noble than any mans reason" It’s very different. Can I clarify something; Is it specifically women on Fab you wouldn’t date, or any woman you come across here or in the vanilla world that you deem to be promiscuous? And why is the promiscuity a problem? Is it because you worry they’ll cheat or just that you don’t like the idea of men having been inside her before you? | |||
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"I've seen this perspective termed the Tate effect on another thread. As though it hasn't existed for decades, nay centuries. Next thread: did Tate invent misogyny? " I think he’s just made it more socially acceptable to be so blatant about it | |||
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"Two Fabbers meet for a fuck But the lady is sure out of luck Yes we can mate But no we can’t date Cos your body count makes you a slut * (* not my view, Fabsters, obviously. It’s just a bit of fun. And tbh, a woeful attempt to rhyme fuck with slut. Anyway the thread closes soon and it’ll all be forgotten! )" Wahey, more silliness on threads where casual misogyny is being chucked about. Tee-hee etc. | |||
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" This is neither exclusive to men nor a problem. Lots of people of bother sexes have this preference. Theres nothing unusual or wrong about it" Lots of people are racist and/or support the National Front. Just because something is common doesn't make it right. | |||
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