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As someone who lived in the area through 3 of these, i wonder what peoples opinions are on whether it should be allowed continue, have changes made to it etc.
I used to dread it, it made a mess of the area and people's properties and genuinely made the area unsafe. |
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"It should not be allowed to be used as a pawn in the ongoing culture war that’s what I think "
Im not interested in all that. All i care about is the violence and shitty behaviour that goes on during it |
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I think it's shocking all the violence that goes on mainly during the Monday, I watch the news coverage and looks so good on the Sunday/family day but then watch the Monday evening coverage and wow I wouldn't want to be there...way too much violence...the people that indulge in this are totally spoiling what the Carnival was first meant to be all about, and that's a shame.  |
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If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.
Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.
People in very large groups are problematic |
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"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.
Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.
People in very large groups are problematic "
but less stabbings |
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"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.
Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.
People in very large groups are problematic "
True. But neither of those take place in small residential streets where people live.
As an fyi, i dont know about Glastonbury, but stabbings at the football rarely if ever happens |
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"Is this Thread a genuine concern about stabbings and street violence at the event? Is it about cancelling it for another reason? Idk I’m confused so far"
Not sure what youre confused about. I explained in the initial post |
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For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife. |
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"Is this Thread a genuine concern about stabbings and street violence at the event? Is it about cancelling it for another reason? Idk I’m confused so far"
For me, and from professional experience its ALL abiutvthe violence. Stabbings, other weapon offences and robberies. Sometimes things are said exactly as they are meant without there being a hidden agenda. |
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"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.
Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.
People in very large groups are problematic
True. But neither of those take place in small residential streets where people live.
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Have you been to Selhurst Park? Most of the clubs in London are in residential streets.
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"Is this Thread a genuine concern about stabbings and street violence at the event? Is it about cancelling it for another reason? Idk I’m confused so far
For me, and from professional experience its ALL abiutvthe violence. Stabbings, other weapon offences and robberies. Sometimes things are said exactly as they are meant without there being a hidden agenda. "
The OP when I read it suggested it was about the way it affects the local area in terms of mess and other disruption. Did mention being unsafe but not specifically anything so I just wanted clarity as the comments below were specifically more about things not specifically mentioned and not about things specifically mentioned. Don’t think there was a hidden agenda. Just want to be clear. |
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"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.
Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.
People in very large groups are problematic
True. But neither of those take place in small residential streets where people live.
Have you been to Selhurst Park? Most of the clubs in London are in residential streets.
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I know that. But football doesnt involve hundreds of thousands of people congregating in a residential area for 2 days |
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"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.
Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.
People in very large groups are problematic
True. But neither of those take place in small residential streets where people live.
Have you been to Selhurst Park? Most of the clubs in London are in residential streets.
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Spurs is on Tottenham high road and match days can be disruptive to travel and can make people feel unsafe |
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"It should not be allowed to be used as a pawn in the ongoing culture war that’s what I think
Im not interested in all that. All i care about is the violence and shitty behaviour that goes on during it"
It happens at all large gatherings. The knife crime element is because it’s in London which is the hub of knife crime and a whole separate issue |
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I have not followed any news about it for very long time but I went a few times years back and I always had a great time. Great street food, dancing and strutting your stuff, colourful parades and people having fun. It must have all changed.  |
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"If you changed Notting Hill to Glastonbury you'd probably get a different response from some. There's more arrests per 100000 people at Glasto.
Prob 3 or 4 hundred thousand at Prem games every week, there'll be a sizable amount of people arrested.
People in very large groups are problematic
True. But neither of those take place in small residential streets where people live.
Have you been to Selhurst Park? Most of the clubs in London are in residential streets.
Spurs is on Tottenham high road and match days can be disruptive to travel and can make people feel unsafe"
Getting to Millwall's old ground was a nightmare. Not so much a football ground, more a trap. An Everton fan got his face slashed open at Surrey Quays a few years ago in a residential road, my mate watched it out of his kitchen window |
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By *tooveMan
over a year ago
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"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife. "
Chip. On. Shoulder. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.
Chip. On. Shoulder. "
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"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife. "
Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all |
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"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.
Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all "
Dear god. This mythical 'far right' again. Are we not allowed discuss important things now for fear it may offend someone? |
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"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.
Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all
Dear god. This mythical 'far right' again. Are we not allowed discuss important things now for fear it may offend someone? "
Who’s offended? And certainly no myth. There’s a whole section of the media/politics sphere that have latched onto to carnival as the latest thing to drive division. It’s so transparent it’s laughable when people can’t see it. |
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"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.
Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all
Dear god. This mythical 'far right' again. Are we not allowed discuss important things now for fear it may offend someone?
Who’s offended? And certainly no myth. There’s a whole section of the media/politics sphere that have latched onto to carnival as the latest thing to drive division. It’s so transparent it’s laughable when people can’t see it. "
So theres no problem with it then as far as youre concerned? |
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"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.
Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all
Dear god. This mythical 'far right' again. Are we not allowed discuss important things now for fear it may offend someone?
Who’s offended? And certainly no myth. There’s a whole section of the media/politics sphere that have latched onto to carnival as the latest thing to drive division. It’s so transparent it’s laughable when people can’t see it.
So theres no problem with it then as far as youre concerned? "
The problem isn’t with carnival. There’s equal or greater problems at all large events. There’s a wider Societal problem. |
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"For the record I don’t think it should be cancelled. In terms of moving it I understand how it could make it safer but feel like it takes away from its originality and from the specific resistance in a specific place. I’m not sure what the solution is. But I do think that reporting on carnival is deliberately different to reporting on say, festivals in general but ofc especially ones like Glastonbury where crime is rife.
Oh you’re right It is different because the the far right are all over it making sure to use it to further drive a wedge between us all
Dear god. This mythical 'far right' again. Are we not allowed discuss important things now for fear it may offend someone?
Who’s offended? And certainly no myth. There’s a whole section of the media/politics sphere that have latched onto to carnival as the latest thing to drive division. It’s so transparent it’s laughable when people can’t see it.
So theres no problem with it then as far as youre concerned?
The problem isn’t with carnival. There’s equal or greater problems at all large events. There’s a wider Societal problem. "
So no change to it then? |
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By (user no longer on site) 26 weeks ago
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Funny how of all my friends that annually take part/attend carnival always seem to have a great time. Yes it gets bigger every year but i think it should remain in Notting Hill as that's where its originated. There used to be an unofficial estate party where I live. I would always get broken up by the police and there would be stories in the media about "gangs with machetes" running around when the real story was someone had a baseball bat. |
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I've been a few times, when my children were younger. We enjoyed it thoroughly.
I've heard some remarks in recent times about various issues, which I have no experience of. I think it would be quite sad for it not to continue personally. |
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By *ty31Man 26 weeks ago
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"Who's going to the Carnival this coming weekend?"
 , hoping to pop down for a bit on the Monday. Likely around the Pineapple Tribe system 🍍
Atmosphere is usually great during the day, although the middle of the carnival can get a bit crowded |
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I got taxed by 3 very large scary dudes many moons ago, left it a few years went again my mate got beat up.
3rd time got a black eye from a crowd surge following from some guy's steaming or something.
No thanks. |
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