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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
I read and article about it and there is a popular quiz about this and it have sparked a heated discussion about it online, do you know the correct answer?
There are few examples, so I will give 2 of them.
1. You are entering a lane of traffic from the side of the road, how long must you signal before you can safety pull out?
2. The second questions was, if you are parked at a kerb and prepare the car to exit, put on the indicator, look in the mirror and right check, even tho it is safe to drive and its been indicating for 2 seconds, wait another 3 seconds. one wondered why should you wait 3 more seconds, the commentator said that a lot can happen in a split second he argued.
I will let you guess for a bit before I give the answer of how many seconds it should be.
What is your view about it, is there a time limit of how long you should signal for?  |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
You should have learned this when you were taught to drive in the UK it’s called Highway Code.
1. You begin signalling after checking mirrors and as soon as ready to do the manoeuvre and continue signalling until you complete the manoeuvre. You complete the manoeuvre as soon as safe.
2. Sane answer as 1
Mirror , signal, manoeuvre, stop signal it’s that simple |
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By *orny-DJMan
over a year ago
Leigh-on-Sea |
The most important part of all of this is observation. Your indicators are used to inform other road users of your intentions.
If, when checking your mirrors etc you observe that there are no other road users around - and that includes pedestrians, then there is no need to use your indicator.
I would also argue that, when driving along a slip road to join a dual carriageway or motorway, indicating is rather pointless as there is nowhere else you can be going - this I learned when preparing for my advanced driving test 27 years ago.
Unfortunately though, it seems that a lot of drivers are of the view, when using motorways and dual carriageways, that using their indicators gives them an automatic right to pull out across the path of other road users |
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over a year ago
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"The most important part of all of this is observation. Your indicators are used to inform other road users of your intentions.
If, when checking your mirrors etc you observe that there are no other road users around - and that includes pedestrians, then there is no need to use your indicator.
I would also argue that, when driving along a slip road to join a dual carriageway or motorway, indicating is rather pointless as there is nowhere else you can be going - this I learned when preparing for my advanced driving test 27 years ago.
Unfortunately though, it seems that a lot of drivers are of the view, when using motorways and dual carriageways, that using their indicators gives them an automatic right to pull out across the path of other road users"
Agree to a point, yes, some do think it give automatic right to pull out which can be scary. I indicate depending on traffic volume to make them aware I'm there. Dunno why lol as you say theres nowhere else I can go. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"15 seconds
Unless you’re driving a bmw in which case you won’t know what indicators are
They don’t fit them on BMWs  "
Fair few Audis seem to be missing them too  |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"The most important part of all of this is observation. Your indicators are used to inform other road users of your intentions.
If, when checking your mirrors etc you observe that there are no other road users around - and that includes pedestrians, then there is no need to use your indicator.
I would also argue that, when driving along a slip road to join a dual carriageway or motorway, indicating is rather pointless as there is nowhere else you can be going - this I learned when preparing for my advanced driving test 27 years ago.
Unfortunately though, it seems that a lot of drivers are of the view, when using motorways and dual carriageways, that using their indicators gives them an automatic right to pull out across the path of other road users"
If you stop using indicators even on an empty road it's too easy to get into the habit of not using them when you should.Just because you can't see another road user doesn't mean their isn't one,in a concealed/obstructed position for example.Indicating on a slip road makes it clear to other traffic you are joining traffic not in a separate running lane. |
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All I will ask is that the idiots that are turning left on a roundabout who think it's ok not to indicate and make you miss your turn to go forward as you are waiting to see which way they are hoong,to think again or get off the roads. So many people think it's ok not to indicate or do it just as they are turning. Not surprising really when you see how people drive in general, either testestorone filled macho behaviour and bravado (and that includes women too) or clueless of what is rught and wrong. Phew, it is out of my system now |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
"You should have learned this when you were taught to drive in the UK it’s called Highway Code.
1. You begin signalling after checking mirrors and as soon as ready to do the manoeuvre and continue signalling until you complete the manoeuvre. You complete the manoeuvre as soon as safe.
2. Sane answer as 1
Mirror , signal, manoeuvre, stop signal it’s that simple "
Yes, one should have learned it as well in the driving school, those are good points and yes, that is a sane answer too  |
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By *TG3Man
over a year ago
Dorchester |
"I read and article about it and there is a popular quiz about this and it have sparked a heated discussion about it online, do you know the correct answer?
There are few examples, so I will give 2 of them.
1. You are entering a lane of traffic from the side of the road, how long must you signal before you can safety pull out?
2. The second questions was, if you are parked at a kerb and prepare the car to exit, put on the indicator, look in the mirror and right check, even tho it is safe to drive and its been indicating for 2 seconds, wait another 3 seconds. one wondered why should you wait 3 more seconds, the commentator said that a lot can happen in a split second he argued.
I will let you guess for a bit before I give the answer of how many seconds it should be.
What is your view about it, is there a time limit of how long you should signal for? "
You look in your mirror you indicate and pull out straight away if you wait 3 seconds then you may never get out  |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
"The most important part of all of this is observation. Your indicators are used to inform other road users of your intentions.
If, when checking your mirrors etc you observe that there are no other road users around - and that includes pedestrians, then there is no need to use your indicator.
I would also argue that, when driving along a slip road to join a dual carriageway or motorway, indicating is rather pointless as there is nowhere else you can be going - this I learned when preparing for my advanced driving test 27 years ago.
Unfortunately though, it seems that a lot of drivers are of the view, when using motorways and dual carriageways, that using their indicators gives them an automatic right to pull out across the path of other road users"
That is a good point too, as it is all about observation rather than how long one should indicate for |
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By *annGentMan
over a year ago
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My Driving Instructor had me indicating before my manoeuvres even when there was no-one else around.
As said earlier, it becomes second nature when driving on a day to day basis.
What I don't get are the drivers who assume everyone else are clairvoyants, and will therefore totally understand their 'manoeuvre, signal' actions !
A new form of being taught in the last few years ??? |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"My Driving Instructor had me indicating before my manoeuvres even when there was no-one else around.
As said earlier, it becomes second nature when driving on a day to day basis.
What I don't get are the drivers who assume everyone else are clairvoyants, and will therefore totally understand their 'manoeuvre, signal' actions !
A new form of being taught in the last few years ???"
Always indicate so it becomes second nature.Non indicators are just lazy,selfish or playing on their phone.Watched a woman(just reporting the fact,no comment about women drivers) enter a roundabout that was blocked and nearly rear end the next car.Looking at her phone on her knee. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
"All I will ask is that the idiots that are turning left on a roundabout who think it's ok not to indicate and make you miss your turn to go forward as you are waiting to see which way they are hoong,to think again or get off the roads. So many people think it's ok not to indicate or do it just as they are turning. Not surprising really when you see how people drive in general, either testestorone filled macho behaviour and bravado (and that includes women too) or clueless of what is rught and wrong. Phew, it is out of my system now "
Yes, those who are turning left on the roundabouts too |
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I find that it’s easier to just hold the palm of my hand out of the window to tell other drivers to stop while I complete my manoeuvre. Shouting phrases like “halt” or “achtung” often helps as well. |
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You get however long my indicator stays on for when I flick the stalk up or down. Think it's 4 blinks. Don't think I've fully engaged my indicator on anything that isn't going fully around a roundabout. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
Irs been interesting to see the replies and the answer that they gave for both those examples and in general was that one should indicate for 5 seconds, what do you you think of that, is it too little time or ok? I think that it should be for a bit longer, maybe 10 seconds would be an ok time |
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"15 seconds
Unless you’re driving a bmw in which case you won’t know what indicators are
They don’t fit them on BMWs
Fair few Audis seem to be missing them too "
There an extra on an Audi you do know if you order a new 1 it dose not come with wheels as there an extra. |
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"I read and article about it and there is a popular quiz about this and it have sparked a heated discussion about it online, do you know the correct answer?
There are few examples, so I will give 2 of them.
1. You are entering a lane of traffic from the side of the road, how long must you signal before you can safety pull out?
2. The second questions was, if you are parked at a kerb and prepare the car to exit, put on the indicator, look in the mirror and right check, even tho it is safe to drive and its been indicating for 2 seconds, wait another 3 seconds. one wondered why should you wait 3 more seconds, the commentator said that a lot can happen in a split second he argued.
I will let you guess for a bit before I give the answer of how many seconds it should be.
What is your view about it, is there a time limit of how long you should signal for? "
When I leart I had to indicate open the window give the hand signal then manover and always have one hand on the steering wheel it's surprising how it makes you adjust your driving and indicating early as more to do. |
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"Irs been interesting to see the replies and the answer that they gave for both those examples and in general was that one should indicate for 5 seconds, what do you you think of that, is it too little time or ok? I think that it should be for a bit longer, maybe 10 seconds would be an ok time "
Indicate change gear check mirror again and manover you need more time especially on main roads where most cars are doing a mile a minute/ 60mph |
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"Irs been interesting to see the replies and the answer that they gave for both those examples and in general was that one should indicate for 5 seconds, what do you you think of that, is it too little time or ok? I think that it should be for a bit longer, maybe 10 seconds would be an ok time "
The Highway Code doesn’t specify a minimum time limit - only that you “give clear signals in plenty of time, having checked it is not misleading to signal at that time” (rule 103).
To my mind that means that you need to have a good understanding of what is going on around you (which you should have anyway if you are driving properly). If you are not sure of where others are spatially then 10 seconds can be too little. If you are certain (because you have been paying attention) then 10seconds is far too long.
I would guess that just under 5 seconds was a reasonable time if you are paying attention. |
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I err on the side of caution as well as being clear for others to understand what my intentions are.
Sometimes indication is advance notification and a request. I see that we should cause minimal, preferably no inconvenience to others. And certainly never to put others in any danger. It is partly about time and also about distance, to me. Exiting a motorway, I expect to give at least 200 yards notice, which is perhaps less than the expected minimum. For time, something like 15 seconds but it's important to only make changes when it's safe to do so. If it takes longer to effect your changes, to allow safety to be ensured, then that's better.
Just because you want to do something, doesn't give you the right to do it. It's best to miss your turn, or not overtake, if it's not right to do so
Ideally you'll never cause someone else to have to make any changes, because of your behaviour. In the real world of driving and our busy roads, it's inevitable that you will. Hence giving others advance notice, when our actions could affect them. Driving well, you will make positive impact on others and they will appreciate you.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You should have learned this when you were taught to drive in the UK it’s called Highway Code.
1. You begin signalling after checking mirrors and as soon as ready to do the manoeuvre and continue signalling until you complete the manoeuvre. You complete the manoeuvre as soon as safe.
2. Sane answer as 1
Mirror , signal, manoeuvre, stop signal it’s that simple Yes, one should have learned it as well in the driving school, those are good points and yes, that is a sane answer too "
What gets lost is the purpose of checking the mirror.
Mirror, am I likely to impeded another road user? No - indicate.
The amount of times people indicate as I’m about to overtake them. Less concerning in the landrover, very concerning on the motorbike. |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"You should have learned this when you were taught to drive in the UK it’s called Highway Code.
1. You begin signalling after checking mirrors and as soon as ready to do the manoeuvre and continue signalling until you complete the manoeuvre. You complete the manoeuvre as soon as safe.
2. Sane answer as 1
Mirror , signal, manoeuvre, stop signal it’s that simple Yes, one should have learned it as well in the driving school, those are good points and yes, that is a sane answer too
What gets lost is the purpose of checking the mirror.
Mirror, am I likely to impeded another road user? No - indicate.
The amount of times people indicate as I’m about to overtake them. Less concerning in the landrover, very concerning on the motorbike. "
Before any change of speed or direction,check the mirror.
Causing another road user to slow down or stop by for example pulling out in front of them,sudden manoeuvre etc:- instant fail on the driving test. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
"I find that it’s easier to just hold the palm of my hand out of the window to tell other drivers to stop while I complete my manoeuvre. Shouting phrases like “halt” or “achtung” often helps as well."
Yes, it would be easier indicating with your hands and it sounds fun too, lol at halt, that is good to say that |
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By *ogo1189Man
over a year ago
Rossendale |
I don’t care how long. Just do it BEFORE you brake, not after
It’s not rocket science (I should know). Just give plenty of warning but not so much that people think you’ve accidentally left your indicator on |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
"Irs been interesting to see the replies and the answer that they gave for both those examples and in general was that one should indicate for 5 seconds, what do you you think of that, is it too little time or ok? I think that it should be for a bit longer, maybe 10 seconds would be an ok time
Indicate change gear check mirror again and manover you need more time especially on main roads where most cars are doing a mile a minute/ 60mph "
Yes, indicate and check the mirror are good too, they do drive fast on the main roads as well |
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By *ean counterMan
over a year ago
Market Harborough / Kettering |
I don't know the correct answer but I do know that one of the first things they teach you is mirror, signal, manoeuvre. Unfortunately a lot of drivers mess this up and their routine is manoeuvre, mirror and oh shit there's a car already alongside me, swerve hit brakes, get sweared at for being a shit driver !! |
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1 check mirror/ engage indicator/ check mirror - yes baby i look good… have a quick check for traffic… wind down window .. scream ‘ cant you see these fucking flashing things you blind twat??’ Fuck sake .. my fucking McDonalds is going cold here…. At last a fucking cyclist - i’ll chop him up….ignore thud and scream as cyclist appears over your roof….down the bonnet and into the gutter… pull out…beep horn for 3 seconds to ensure no onlookers get clipped as you accelerate to 85mph over the zebra crossing and start eating mcdonalds while checking your phone…and taking a slurp of McFlurry!!
Did I pass??  |
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By *ogo1189Man
over a year ago
Rossendale |
"Irs been interesting to see the replies and the answer that they gave for both those examples and in general was that one should indicate for 5 seconds, what do you you think of that, is it too little time or ok? I think that it should be for a bit longer, maybe 10 seconds would be an ok time
Indicate change gear check mirror again and manover you need more time especially on main roads where most cars are doing a mile a minute/ 60mph Yes, indicate and check the mirror are good too, they do drive fast on the main roads as well "
It takes a minimum of 7 seconds to bring the car to a stop before turning at a junction, when travelling at the National speed limit, according to nacto
Anyone only indicating for five seconds must be slowing down before they indicate and so deserve to be rear ended |
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"15 seconds
Unless you’re driving a bmw in which case you won’t know what indicators are
They don’t fit them on BMWs "
They do fit them but on the German side of the column. Is it any surprise that British drivers don't use them? They weren't put on the left in Europe for no particular reason. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
"I err on the side of caution as well as being clear for others to understand what my intentions are.
Sometimes indication is advance notification and a request. I see that we should cause minimal, preferably no inconvenience to others. And certainly never to put others in any danger. It is partly about time and also about distance, to me. Exiting a motorway, I expect to give at least 200 yards notice, which is perhaps less than the expected minimum. For time, something like 15 seconds but it's important to only make changes when it's safe to do so. If it takes longer to effect your changes, to allow safety to be ensured, then that's better.
Just because you want to do something, doesn't give you the right to do it. It's best to miss your turn, or not overtake, if it's not right to do so
Ideally you'll never cause someone else to have to make any changes, because of your behaviour. In the real world of driving and our busy roads, it's inevitable that you will. Hence giving others advance notice, when our actions could affect them. Driving well, you will make positive impact on others and they will appreciate you.
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Those are good points and yes, it is also about being clear for others to understand what ones intentions are as well |
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