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"What on earths going on? Clearly there are agendas at play here but should the media be glorying in destroying yet another individual? " He’s destroyed himself. Be serious | |||
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"Rubiales i guess' the kiss' "The latest is the Spanish FA are considering legal action against the player for lying! It’s like a soap opera! | |||
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"What on earths going on? Clearly there are agendas at play here but should the media be glorying in destroying yet another individual? " Yes. He's a complete macho cockwomble. He deserves everything he gets. | |||
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"Rubiales i guess' the kiss'
The latest is the Spanish FA are considering legal action against the player for lying!
It’s like a soap opera! "The Spanish FA is a closed old boys network and this is therefore totally unsurprising. The Spanish FA doesn't care about women's football and doesn't particularly care if the women's team ceases to exist. | |||
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"Rubiales i guess' the kiss'
The latest is the Spanish FA are considering legal action against the player for lying!
It’s like a soap opera!
The Spanish FA is a closed old boys network and this is therefore totally unsurprising. The Spanish FA doesn't care about women's football and doesn't particularly care if the women's team ceases to exist. "She says when they just won the world cup | |||
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"Rubiales i guess' the kiss'
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It’s like a soap opera!
The Spanish FA is a closed old boys network and this is therefore totally unsurprising. The Spanish FA doesn't care about women's football and doesn't particularly care if the women's team ceases to exist.
She says when they just won the world cup "I'm not going to argue with someone who can't see blatant misogyny when it slaps them in the face. | |||
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"The kiss is one thing, nut I don't get the fuss over the crotch incident. Can a guy not scratch his dick for a quarter of a second any more? " Of course he can. But when in the public eye, representing his country, surrounded by djgnitaries and minors. Would be a bit silly. | |||
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"What on earths going on? Clearly there are agendas at play here but should the media be glorying in destroying yet another individual? " What a strange way to look at it. He's not the victim here. | |||
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"What on earths going on? Clearly there are agendas at play here but should the media be glorying in destroying yet another individual? " In this case, yes | |||
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"I’ve just looked at the video because I wanted to see for myself what all the furore is about. I’m might’ve missed something but was the kiss a result of over exuberance in the moment or intentional assault? I haven’t been following this story much but has the chap apologised for it? If so, surely that should be the end of it. I don’t watch football but from what I’ve seen of the men’s game, they’re regularly patting each other on the bum and I’m almost certain that it’s without prior consent. Can there be no leeway for genuine mistakes nowadays and an apology being enough of a redemption without resorting to legalities and the threat to have one removed from their job? All seems like a mountain out of a mole hill to me, unless I am clearly lacking perspective and additional information. Miles" This is our world now. Pick a side and go to war. | |||
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"I’ve just looked at the video because I wanted to see for myself what all the furore is about. I’m might’ve missed something but was the kiss a result of over exuberance in the moment or intentional assault? I haven’t been following this story much but has the chap apologised for it? If so, surely that should be the end of it. I don’t watch football but from what I’ve seen of the men’s game, they’re regularly patting each other on the bum and I’m almost certain that it’s without prior consent. Can there be no leeway for genuine mistakes nowadays and an apology being enough of a redemption without resorting to legalities and the threat to have one removed from their job? All seems like a mountain out of a mole hill to me, unless I am clearly lacking perspective and additional information. Miles" He hasn't apologised. | |||
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"I’ve just looked at the video because I wanted to see for myself what all the furore is about. I’m might’ve missed something but was the kiss a result of over exuberance in the moment or intentional assault? I haven’t been following this story much but has the chap apologised for it? If so, surely that should be the end of it. I don’t watch football but from what I’ve seen of the men’s game, they’re regularly patting each other on the bum and I’m almost certain that it’s without prior consent. Can there be no leeway for genuine mistakes nowadays and an apology being enough of a redemption without resorting to legalities and the threat to have one removed from their job? All seems like a mountain out of a mole hill to me, unless I am clearly lacking perspective and additional information. Miles He hasn't apologised. " I thought he had? He had in the bit I read about it all. | |||
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" He hasn't apologised. " I see. Is that what the furore is about? I don’t understand how this has been blown out of all proportion, it seems. Who made the complaint about the kiss? Was it the woman being kissed? Miles | |||
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"I’ve just looked at the video because I wanted to see for myself what all the furore is about. I’m might’ve missed something but was the kiss a result of over exuberance in the moment or intentional assault? I haven’t been following this story much but has the chap apologised for it? If so, surely that should be the end of it. I don’t watch football but from what I’ve seen of the men’s game, they’re regularly patting each other on the bum and I’m almost certain that it’s without prior consent. Can there be no leeway for genuine mistakes nowadays and an apology being enough of a redemption without resorting to legalities and the threat to have one removed from their job? All seems like a mountain out of a mole hill to me, unless I am clearly lacking perspective and additional information. Miles He hasn't apologised. I thought he had? He had in the bit I read about it all. " I might not have caught up with that bit. Happy to be proved wrong.  | |||
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" He hasn't apologised. I see. Is that what the furore is about? I don’t understand how this has been blown out of all proportion, it seems. Who made the complaint about the kiss? Was it the woman being kissed? Miles" I think you need to watch the videos and read the subsequent reports. It seems he has apologised though, I'm just going to take a look at the most recent stuff | |||
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" He hasn't apologised. I see. Is that what the furore is about? I don’t understand how this has been blown out of all proportion, it seems. Who made the complaint about the kiss? Was it the woman being kissed? Miles I think you need to watch the videos and read the subsequent reports. It seems he has apologised though, I'm just going to take a look at the most recent stuff" He apologised for the crotch incident, not the kiss. | |||
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" He hasn't apologised. I see. Is that what the furore is about? I don’t understand how this has been blown out of all proportion, it seems. Who made the complaint about the kiss? Was it the woman being kissed? Miles I think you need to watch the videos and read the subsequent reports. It seems he has apologised though, I'm just going to take a look at the most recent stuff" He did apologise, I was wrong to say he hadn't. I think the tone of his apology and some of his subsequent comments upset a lot of people though | |||
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" He hasn't apologised. I see. Is that what the furore is about? I don’t understand how this has been blown out of all proportion, it seems. Who made the complaint about the kiss? Was it the woman being kissed? Miles I think you need to watch the videos and read the subsequent reports. It seems he has apologised though, I'm just going to take a look at the most recent stuff He apologised for the crotch incident, not the kiss." No he apparently apologised for the kiss according to sky sports news and a few others | |||
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" He hasn't apologised. I see. Is that what the furore is about? I don’t understand how this has been blown out of all proportion, it seems. Who made the complaint about the kiss? Was it the woman being kissed? Miles I think you need to watch the videos and read the subsequent reports. It seems he has apologised though, I'm just going to take a look at the most recent stuff He did apologise, I was wrong to say he hadn't. I think the tone of his apology and some of his subsequent comments upset a lot of people though" Yes it was apparently a reluctant apology | |||
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" He hasn't apologised. I see. Is that what the furore is about? I don’t understand how this has been blown out of all proportion, it seems. Who made the complaint about the kiss? Was it the woman being kissed? Miles I think you need to watch the videos and read the subsequent reports. It seems he has apologised though, I'm just going to take a look at the most recent stuff He did apologise, I was wrong to say he hadn't. I think the tone of his apology and some of his subsequent comments upset a lot of people though Yes it was apparently a reluctant apology " It's a mess and as I said on the other thread nobody is going to come out of this undamaged | |||
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"I’ve just looked at the video because I wanted to see for myself what all the furore is about. I’m might’ve missed something but was the kiss a result of over exuberance in the moment or intentional assault? I haven’t been following this story much but has the chap apologised for it? If so, surely that should be the end of it. I don’t watch football but from what I’ve seen of the men’s game, they’re regularly patting each other on the bum and I’m almost certain that it’s without prior consent. Can there be no leeway for genuine mistakes nowadays and an apology being enough of a redemption without resorting to legalities and the threat to have one removed from their job? All seems like a mountain out of a mole hill to me, unless I am clearly lacking perspective and additional information. Miles" exactly it was done in the excitement of winning no intention to offend and hes appologised that's enough | |||
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" He hasn't apologised. I see. Is that what the furore is about? I don’t understand how this has been blown out of all proportion, it seems. Who made the complaint about the kiss? Was it the woman being kissed? Miles I think you need to watch the videos and read the subsequent reports. It seems he has apologised though, I'm just going to take a look at the most recent stuff He did apologise, I was wrong to say he hadn't. I think the tone of his apology and some of his subsequent comments upset a lot of people though Yes it was apparently a reluctant apology It's a mess and as I said on the other thread nobody is going to come out of this undamaged " True. It really is  | |||
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"If people haven't been following the story. This is just a final straw for the way their FA has been treating them in the last few years. That why 12 of their first choice players were not qt the world cup. If you think its ok to grab a woman face and kiss her on the lips without asking, that says a lot about the person you are. But this is not just a ordinary yobo after a few drinks. He's the head of his countries football and representing his country on the world stage. He gets paid good money to be able to behave with dignity and control himself. " Thank you for the update. I’ve had my face grabbed by women for a quick peck on the lips without my consent in a moment of joint celebration and over exuberance. In this instance, by your description, it seems to be a final straw moment rather than the kiss in itself. Miles | |||
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" He hasn't apologised. I see. Is that what the furore is about? I don’t understand how this has been blown out of all proportion, it seems. Who made the complaint about the kiss? Was it the woman being kissed? Miles I think you need to watch the videos and read the subsequent reports. It seems he has apologised though, I'm just going to take a look at the most recent stuff He did apologise, I was wrong to say he hadn't. I think the tone of his apology and some of his subsequent comments upset a lot of people though Yes it was apparently a reluctant apology It's a mess and as I said on the other thread nobody is going to come out of this undamaged True. It really is "The moment media of all types was involved it was never going to be able to be sorted out properly. A massive opportunity for moving attitudes to women forward and setting examples has been missed | |||
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" He hasn't apologised. I see. Is that what the furore is about? I don’t understand how this has been blown out of all proportion, it seems. Who made the complaint about the kiss? Was it the woman being kissed?" He did apologise, but it was deemed inadequate. The complaint came from Spanish parliamentary leaders, FIFA, the victim, her team-mates and professional football players across the globe. | |||
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"it was done in the excitement of winning no intention to offend and hes appologised that's enough "So non-consensual public physical affection by a person in a position of power is ok if said person is excited? Jesus! | |||
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"If people haven't been following the story. This is just a final straw for the way their FA has been treating them in the last few years. That why 12 of their first choice players were not qt the world cup. If you think its ok to grab a woman face and kiss her on the lips without asking, that says a lot about the person you are. But this is not just a ordinary yobo after a few drinks. He's the head of his countries football and representing his country on the world stage. He gets paid good money to be able to behave with dignity and control himself. Thank you for the update. I’ve had my face grabbed by women for a quick peck on the lips without my consent in a moment of joint celebration and over exuberance. In this instance, by your description, it seems to be a final straw moment rather than the kiss in itself. Miles " No it is the kiss also. You are clearly not wanting to or choosing not to understand the difference power dynamics in your incident and this incident. | |||
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"Was watching a report on the story on France 24. The was a video of the team getting on the coach. Rubiales was constantly touching the players, really creepy and inappropriate. " You ever met a spanish person? | |||
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"Was watching a report on the story on France 24. The was a video of the team getting on the coach. Rubiales was constantly touching the players, really creepy and inappropriate. You ever met a spanish person? " Yes, many. | |||
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"What on earths going on? Clearly there are agendas at play here but should the media be glorying in destroying yet another individual? " 'When all you've ever known is privilege, equality feels like oppression' | |||
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"Was watching a report on the story on France 24. The was a video of the team getting on the coach. Rubiales was constantly touching the players, really creepy and inappropriate. You ever met a spanish person? " Have you? They don't go around grabbing people forcefully by the face and forcing a kiss on their lips, nor do they grab their crotch and make lewd gestures. If anyone thinks that behaviour is normal Latino/Spanish culture then you are utterly clueless. | |||
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"Was watching a report on the story on France 24. The was a video of the team getting on the coach. Rubiales was constantly touching the players, really creepy and inappropriate. You ever met a spanish person? Have you? They don't go around grabbing people forcefully by the face and forcing a kiss on their lips, nor do they grab their crotch and make lewd gestures. If anyone thinks that behaviour is normal Latino/Spanish culture then you are utterly clueless. " It’s a typical stereotype though. And we love a stereotype on fab | |||
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"Wasn't my proudest" Eh? | |||
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"Wasn't my proudest Eh?" Fap | |||
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"it was done in the excitement of winning no intention to offend and hes appologised that's enough
So non-consensual public physical affection by a person in a position of power is ok if said person is excited? Jesus! "lol omg you're jumping on the media bandwagon as Usual he was excited for the team winning and appologised for the kiss, its a kiss....... I mean non consensual really, remember the Spanish kiss men as well its an acceptable celebration in Spain | |||
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"Scary how many people don't care about consent Especially on a site like this " Isn't it just? | |||
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"Wasn't my proudest Eh? Fap" 1/10 for originality  | |||
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" I mean non consensual really, remember the Spanish kiss men as well its an acceptable celebration in Spain "No It Isn't! | |||
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"I prefer an ‘Australian’ kiss personally "Anyone trying to kiss me like that would be getting the Glaswegian sort. | |||
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"I prefer an ‘Australian’ kiss personally
Anyone trying to kiss me like that would be getting the Glaswegian sort. "Not even with a little finger up the bum? | |||
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"I prefer an ‘Australian’ kiss personally
Anyone trying to kiss me like that would be getting the Glaswegian sort.
Not even with a little finger up the bum? "Good luck trying that whilst I'm sat in my Wheely chair  | |||
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"I prefer an ‘Australian’ kiss personally
Anyone trying to kiss me like that would be getting the Glaswegian sort.
Not even with a little finger up the bum?
Good luck trying that whilst I'm sat in my Wheely chair "Challenge accepted | |||
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"I prefer an ‘Australian’ kiss personally
Anyone trying to kiss me like that would be getting the Glaswegian sort.
Not even with a little finger up the bum?
Good luck trying that whilst I'm sat in my Wheely chair
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 then the forced kiss, and then blaming a feminist movement agenda for wanting him gone. you can't be behaving like that in his position. | |||
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"I prefer an ‘Australian’ kiss personally
Anyone trying to kiss me like that would be getting the Glaswegian sort.
Not even with a little finger up the bum?
Good luck trying that whilst I'm sat in my Wheely chair
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"I couldn't believe the crouch grab then the forced kiss, and then blaming a feminist movement agenda for wanting him gone. you can't be behaving like that, PERIOD. "FIFY | |||
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"What on earths going on? Clearly there are agendas at play here but should the media be glorying in destroying yet another individual? " Storm in a teacup, now being whipped up into a frenzy by politicians and celebs with agendas. He was wrong to do it, and he could have managed the aftermath better. But the opportunism being exhibited, particularly by politicians of course, is revolting. A depressing event overshadowing the main achievement | |||
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" I mean non consensual really, remember the Spanish kiss men as well its an acceptable celebration in Spain
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"Scary how many people don't care about consent Especially on a site like this " its like a horror movie its that scary | |||
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" I mean non consensual really, remember the Spanish kiss men as well its an acceptable celebration in Spain
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Isn't!oh yes it is "Grabbing anyone by the face and implanting a kiss on the lips is no more Spanish than it is English or German. People have a very warped sense of what normal Spanish culture is. | |||
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"I couldn't believe the crouch grab then the forced kiss, and then blaming a feminist movement agenda for wanting him gone. you can't be behaving like that, PERIOD.
FIFY"Yes, I stand corrected. | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked." Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? | |||
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"I couldn't believe the crouch grab then the forced kiss, and then blaming a feminist movement agenda for wanting him gone. you can't be behaving like that, PERIOD.
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? " If my boss stuck the lips on a female employee in public he would be sacked too. | |||
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" I mean non consensual really, remember the Spanish kiss men as well its an acceptable celebration in Spain
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Grabbing anyone by the face and implanting a kiss on the lips is no more Spanish than it is English or German. People have a very warped sense of what normal Spanish culture is. "it was a celebration of winning is all nothing else he appologised, don't get it all out of proportion because the media has | |||
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" I mean non consensual really, remember the Spanish kiss men as well its an acceptable celebration in Spain
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Grabbing anyone by the face and implanting a kiss on the lips is no more Spanish than it is English or German. People have a very warped sense of what normal Spanish culture is. it was a celebration of winning is all nothing else he appologised, don't get it all out of proportion because the media has "Kindly don't tell me what to do, think or say. I'll make my own choices there, thanking you most kindly. | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked." sheeesh whats wrong with you | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? " . A kiss on the lips from Rubiales should have been for his wife not another woman. | |||
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" I mean non consensual really, remember the Spanish kiss men as well its an acceptable celebration in Spain
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Kindly don't tell me what to do, think or say. I'll make my own choices there, thanking you most kindly."I'm not saying your not but in this case its ridiculous | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? If my boss stuck the lips on a female employee in public he would be sacked too." Would he really? A clear misunderstanding in the heat of a euphoric historic moment? Is there no middle ground anymore? | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? . A kiss on the lips from Rubiales should have been for his wife not another woman." He's Spanish they kiss men on the lips | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? . A kiss on the lips from Rubiales should have been for his wife not another woman." What has that got to do with his professional position? | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? If my boss stuck the lips on a female employee in public he would be sacked too. Would he really? A clear misunderstanding in the heat of a euphoric historic moment? Is there no middle ground anymore? " Yes, he definitely would be. Especially on such a public stage. It would be a horrendous look for the company and he would be out the door. Probably with a generous severance package but that is the fucked up world we live in. | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. " Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked." Look at the video. Hermoso's feet are off the ground at one point. How is she "leading him on" by lifting him off his feet. | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? " The OP asked about media censure. I'm answering his question. He should resign. | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? " Reverse it. Where is your line? A kiss? A fondle? Ripping her clothes off? The word that rhymes with Grape? | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? If my boss stuck the lips on a female employee in public he would be sacked too." How often does your boss win the World cup? Its not comparable. We see teams running around hugging amd kissing when they win a single game let alone the biggest game of all of their lives.... Don't understand peoples hatred.. Its not a good look. | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Look at the video. Hermoso's feet are off the ground at one point. How is she "leading him on" by lifting him off his feet. " she was celebrating as was he | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? Reverse it. Where is your line? A kiss? A fondle? Ripping her clothes off? The word that rhymes with Grape?" trape or vape | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? If my boss stuck the lips on a female employee in public he would be sacked too. How often does your boss win the World cup? Its not comparable. We see teams running around hugging amd kissing when they win a single game let alone the biggest game of all of their lives.... Don't understand peoples hatred.. Its not a good look. " My boss could win a multibillion pound contract. Can he kiss who he wants? | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? Reverse it. Where is your line? A kiss? A fondle? Ripping her clothes off? The word that rhymes with Grape?trape or vape "We’re on fab. Gape obviously. | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? If my boss stuck the lips on a female employee in public he would be sacked too. How often does your boss win the World cup? Its not comparable. We see teams running around hugging amd kissing when they win a single game let alone the biggest game of all of their lives.... Don't understand peoples hatred.. Its not a good look. My boss could win a multibillion pound contract. Can he kiss who he wants?" Obviously he can. Winning stuff makes consent and norms of behaviour null and void. | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? If my boss stuck the lips on a female employee in public he would be sacked too. How often does your boss win the World cup? Its not comparable. We see teams running around hugging amd kissing when they win a single game let alone the biggest game of all of their lives.... Don't understand peoples hatred.. Its not a good look. My boss could win a multibillion pound contract. Can he kiss who he wants?" Hardly a credible example can your boss play football at world class level? | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? If my boss stuck the lips on a female employee in public he would be sacked too. How often does your boss win the World cup? Its not comparable. We see teams running around hugging amd kissing when they win a single game let alone the biggest game of all of their lives.... Don't understand peoples hatred.. Its not a good look. My boss could win a multibillion pound contract. Can he kiss who he wants? Obviously he can. Winning stuff makes consent and norms of behaviour null and void." I would say this is unbelievable but sadly I’ve came to expect this on here. | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? Reverse it. Where is your line? A kiss? A fondle? Ripping her clothes off? The word that rhymes with Grape?trape or vape
We’re on fab. Gape obviously."ok agreed | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? " My line is that criminal acts (sexual assault) deserve legal punishment(prison). Wild I know. | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? Reverse it. Where is your line? A kiss? A fondle? Ripping her clothes off? The word that rhymes with Grape?" I dont understand your question. I simply asked the other poster where the line was with this 'censure' | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? If my boss stuck the lips on a female employee in public he would be sacked too. How often does your boss win the World cup? Its not comparable. We see teams running around hugging amd kissing when they win a single game let alone the biggest game of all of their lives.... Don't understand peoples hatred.. Its not a good look. My boss could win a multibillion pound contract. Can he kiss who he wants? Obviously he can. Winning stuff makes consent and norms of behaviour null and void. I would say this is unbelievable but sadly I’ve came to expect this on here." If it's said on here with a modicum of anonymity, I want to know how these people behave in the "real" world. It's very concerning. If Rubiales behaves like he did on international TV, what in the heck does he do away from scrutiny? | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? Reverse it. Where is your line? A kiss? A fondle? Ripping her clothes off? The word that rhymes with Grape? I dont understand your question. I simply asked the other poster where the line was with this 'censure'" You don’t understand consent either. | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? My line is that criminal acts (sexual assault) deserve legal punishment(prison). Wild I know. " How is that relevant to this situation? | |||
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"My first question would be is she at least a 7? My response would be tailored around the answer to this "You're trying too hard to be an arse. | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? Reverse it. Where is your line? A kiss? A fondle? Ripping her clothes off? The word that rhymes with Grape? I dont understand your question. I simply asked the other poster where the line was with this 'censure' You don’t understand consent either." What makes you think that? | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? If my boss stuck the lips on a female employee in public he would be sacked too. How often does your boss win the World cup? Its not comparable. We see teams running around hugging amd kissing when they win a single game let alone the biggest game of all of their lives.... Don't understand peoples hatred.. Its not a good look. My boss could win a multibillion pound contract. Can he kiss who he wants? Obviously he can. Winning stuff makes consent and norms of behaviour null and void. I would say this is unbelievable but sadly I’ve came to expect this on here. If it's said on here with a modicum of anonymity, I want to know how these people behave in the "real" world. It's very concerning. If Rubiales behaves like he did on international TV, what in the heck does he do away from scrutiny?" Exactly. I’m out of here before I say something that gets me in trouble. | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? My line is that criminal acts (sexual assault) deserve legal punishment(prison). Wild I know. How is that relevant to this situation? " Kissing someone without their consent is sexual assault. Sexual assault is a crime. Crimes should be punished. | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? My line is that criminal acts (sexual assault) deserve legal punishment(prison). Wild I know. How is that relevant to this situation? Kissing someone without their consent is sexual assault. Sexual assault is a crime. Crimes should be punished. " Ah so its sexual assault now is it. And all perspective truly has been lost. | |||
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"Scary how many people don't care about consent Especially on a site like this " It’s a great filter, the block button is getting some use! | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Why sacked though? Can someone not make a mistake anymore without paying the ultimate price? Why have we lost all sense of scale? If my boss stuck the lips on a female employee in public he would be sacked too. How often does your boss win the World cup? Its not comparable. We see teams running around hugging amd kissing when they win a single game let alone the biggest game of all of their lives.... Don't understand peoples hatred.. Its not a good look. My boss could win a multibillion pound contract. Can he kiss who he wants? Obviously he can. Winning stuff makes consent and norms of behaviour null and void. I would say this is unbelievable but sadly I’ve came to expect this on here." Yep.  | |||
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" Ah so its sexual assault now is it. " Yes, it is. | |||
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"Wow, all this over an unsolicited kiss. Surely a quick booby honk and a slap on the butt would have sufficed?
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"Wow, all this over an unsolicited kiss. Surely a quick booby honk and a slap on the butt would have sufficed?
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" Ah so its sexual assault now is it. Yes, it is." It really isnt it. Don't be ridiculous | |||
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" Ah so its sexual assault now is it. Yes, it is." lol oh well oust him then, arrest him then, ruin his life for a celebratory kiss, you've convicted him already | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? My line is that criminal acts (sexual assault) deserve legal punishment(prison). Wild I know. How is that relevant to this situation? Kissing someone without their consent is sexual assault. Sexual assault is a crime. Crimes should be punished. Ah so its sexual assault now is it. And all perspective truly has been lost. " If someone in a position of power forces physical affection onto you, without your consent, what else is it? Because I will tell you that the minimum contact set for a regular battery (common assault) can be reduced to the unwanted/non consensual touching of the material a person wears. Never mind kissing them. So really we only need to dicuss is kissing sexual in nature. Was the intention any form of sexual gratification? I'd say yes. You would say no, I assume? Which would still meet the minimum requirement for a battery. A crime. Punishable by the criminal justice system. | |||
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" Ah so its sexual assault now is it. Yes, it is. It really isnt it. Don't be ridiculous " It is in the UK. Unwanted touching including kissing is SA. | |||
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"Yeah. He deserves every bit of censure. As do the RFEF. Define 'every bit of censure'? Sacking? Banning from ever working in football again? Banning from ever working again? Criminal prosecution? Jailing? Death penalty? Wheres your line? My line is that criminal acts (sexual assault) deserve legal punishment(prison). Wild I know. How is that relevant to this situation? Kissing someone without their consent is sexual assault. Sexual assault is a crime. Crimes should be punished. Ah so its sexual assault now is it. And all perspective truly has been lost. If someone in a position of power forces physical affection onto you, without your consent, what else is it? Because I will tell you that the minimum contact set for a regular battery (common assault) can be reduced to the unwanted/non consensual touching of the material a person wears. Never mind kissing them. So really we only need to dicuss is kissing sexual in nature. Was the intention any form of sexual gratification? I'd say yes. You would say no, I assume? Which would still meet the minimum requirement for a battery. A crime. Punishable by the criminal justice system. " Ah sure we'll put him in handcuffs so. What a fucking joke | |||
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" Ah so its sexual assault now is it. Yes, it is. It really isnt it. Don't be ridiculous " Maybe not in Ireland but it very much is in England and Wales. | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Look at the video. Hermoso's feet are off the ground at one point. How is she "leading him on" by lifting him off his feet. " . I never thought Hermoso was leading Rubiales on my female colleagues did.On Wednesday when I see my female colleagues if I say good morning to her and kiss her on the lips I wonder what her reaction will be my gut feeling is she will knee me in the balls lol. | |||
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"Wow, all this over an unsolicited kiss. Surely a quick booby honk and a slap on the butt would have sufficed?
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Don't forget the congratulatory slap on the butt as well. That tells a woman she has done really well
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"Wow, all this over an unsolicited kiss. Surely a quick booby honk and a slap on the butt would have sufficed?
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Don't forget the congratulatory slap on the butt as well. That tells a woman she has done really well
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Look at the video. Hermoso's feet are off the ground at one point. How is she "leading him on" by lifting him off his feet. . I never thought Hermoso was leading Rubiales on my female colleagues did.On Wednesday when I see my female colleagues if I say good morning to her and kiss her on the lips I wonder what her reaction will be my gut feeling is she will knee me in the balls lol." Careful she's not leading you on - that's what gold diggers do.... | |||
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"Today at work a female colleague asked me what I thought of the kiss.I said to her that a kiss on the lips was not correct and it should be a kiss on one or both cheeks therefore Rubiales should be sacked.My colleague then showed me a picture where moments before the kiss Hermoso has her arms round Rubiales in a embrace and lifts him of his feet and asks me do I not feel that perhaps she is leading him on I said that whilst I could see where my colleague was coming from I still feel Rubiales is wrong and should be sacked. Look at the video. Hermoso's feet are off the ground at one point. How is she "leading him on" by lifting him off his feet. . I never thought Hermoso was leading Rubiales on my female colleagues did.On Wednesday when I see my female colleagues if I say good morning to her and kiss her on the lips I wonder what her reaction will be my gut feeling is she will knee me in the balls lol. Careful she's not leading you on - that's what gold diggers do...." . Thanks for the advice.I may not be as rich as Mason but I’m older and wiser and I think I can spot a gold digger. | |||
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"Some strange responses to this thread, lots from men who I'm sure have "I'll treat you with respect" on their bios! Top tip: don't grab people and kiss them without invitation, even in celebration, and you'll be just fine." It may be a surprise to you, but nobody is in here saying he was ok to do it. Just that there should be a proportionate reaction | |||
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"Some strange responses to this thread, lots from men who I'm sure have "I'll treat you with respect" on their bios! Top tip: don't grab people and kiss them without invitation, even in celebration, and you'll be just fine. It may be a surprise to you, but nobody is in here saying he was ok to do it. Just that there should be a proportionate reaction" Great, thanks for clarifying. I struggle sometimes. | |||
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"Can only think you’d be so keen to defend this man if you yourself act in this way? Or want to act in this way freely? Or know people that act in this way? " When men get excited, Pickle, they have to be excused for "taking a liberty" you know. | |||
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"People need to lighten up. Puts a shadow on the girls winning. A kiss in the moment that is all if she was so offended she should of slapped his face." That would have been common assault! | |||
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"Some strange responses to this thread, lots from men who I'm sure have "I'll treat you with respect" on their bios! Top tip: don't grab people and kiss them without invitation, even in celebration, and you'll be just fine. It may be a surprise to you, but nobody is in here saying he was ok to do it. Just that there should be a proportionate reaction" I watched it happen and I thought at the time you mate have overstepped the Mark. He has to go! | |||
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"It’s a joke!!! Poor fella they had just on the World Cup and that man should never off kissed him?!
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"Can only think you’d be so keen to defend this man if you yourself act in this way? Or want to act in this way freely? Or know people that act in this way? When men get excited, Pickle, they have to be excused for "taking a liberty" you know. " Oh duh silly me | |||
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"Can only think you’d be so keen to defend this man if you yourself act in this way? Or want to act in this way freely? Or know people that act in this way? When men get excited, Pickle, they have to be excused for "taking a liberty" you know. " Will no-one think of the men? They're emotional and highly strung, and can't control their own actions. We all know she loved it anyway. | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. " That’s fab for ya! | |||
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"What on earths going on? Clearly there are agendas at play here but should the media be glorying in destroying yet another individual? He’s destroyed himself. Be serious" Too right | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. " We don’t call out women because we want to sex them. Apparently | |||
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"Can only think you’d be so keen to defend this man if you yourself act in this way? Or want to act in this way freely? Or know people that act in this way? When men get excited, Pickle, they have to be excused for "taking a liberty" you know. Will no-one think of the men? They're emotional and highly strung, and can't control their own actions. We all know she loved it anyway. " Despite her saying she didn’t, I think she did. | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. We don’t call out women because we want to sex them. Apparently" If you can think of any other reason, im all ears | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. We don’t call out women because we want to sex them. Apparently If you can think of any other reason, im all ears" I can’t speak for others but I gladly call both men and women out on this website. Anyone can get it | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. We don’t call out women because we want to sex them. Apparently If you can think of any other reason, im all ears I can’t speak for others but I gladly call both men and women out on this website. Anyone can get it" Understood. Youll be calling out the woman above so any minute then i presume. Good to know | |||
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"Press coverage is ridiculous." It always is. But this is a real story that ran as it did *because* nobody stepped in. He wouldn't resign and took to lying instead - pretending the kiss was prearranged and thus suggesting the 'perfidious woman' is at very least hysterical. There's plenty of people out there who'd like to crab his crotch I tell you, and not for sexual reasons. It's a story, and one that resonates deeply in terms of what far-too many 'modern masculine men' see women as being. It's a nightmare. pt | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. " -I'm actually looking for this list of 'sensible women' who are playing it down. Where are they? pt | |||
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"Press coverage is ridiculous. It always is. But this is a real story that ran as it did *because* nobody stepped in. He wouldn't resign and took to lying instead - pretending the kiss was prearranged and thus suggesting the 'perfidious woman' is at very least hysterical. There's plenty of people out there who'd like to crab his crotch I tell you, and not for sexual reasons. It's a story, and one that resonates deeply in terms of what far-too many 'modern masculine men' see women as being. It's a nightmare. pt" Whatever you think | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. -I'm actually looking for this list of 'sensible women' who are playing it down. Where are they? pt" Who mentioned a list of sensible women? | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. We don’t call out women because we want to sex them. Apparently If you can think of any other reason, im all ears I can’t speak for others but I gladly call both men and women out on this website. Anyone can get it Understood. Youll be calling out the woman above so any minute then i presume. Good to know" Cba to scroll up but this is comment right here calling out anyone that is defending this man or pretending he doesn’t need firing. x | |||
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"People need to lighten up. Puts a shadow on the girls winning. A kiss in the moment that is all if she was so offended she should of slapped his face." Have you ever been unconsensually grabbed and kissed in front of a global audience and on TV? I've been SA'd and the reaction of many people is to freeze, pretend it didn't happen. How dare you suggest she should have reacted in that moment? Where's your censure of HIM? | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. -I'm actually looking for this list of 'sensible women' who are playing it down. Where are they? pt Who mentioned a list of sensible women? " Think the implication being if a woman isnt agreeing with the furore then she cant be sensible....how I read it anyway. | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. We don’t call out women because we want to sex them. Apparently If you can think of any other reason, im all ears I can’t speak for others but I gladly call both men and women out on this website. Anyone can get it Understood. Youll be calling out the woman above so any minute then i presume. Good to know Cba to scroll up but this is comment right here calling out anyone that is defending this man or pretending he doesn’t need firing. x"Not directly to her then. I see | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. -I'm actually looking for this list of 'sensible women' who are playing it down. Where are they? pt Who mentioned a list of sensible women? Think the implication being if a woman isnt agreeing with the furore then she cant be sensible....how I read it anyway. " --Why make it so complicated when I'm clearly suggesting he sees 'playing it down' as the sensible approach! Mind you, you do have a point... Just remember people, criticism isn't cancellation. When certain people opine that "you can't say anything any more" they are usually too lazy these days to even-think of the final words... "without some annoying so-and-so criticising you or suggesting you shouldn't be doing it!" But in reality people have never had more freedom to say whatever they feel like from dawn to dusk imo, certainly in my days anyway. pt | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. -I'm actually looking for this list of 'sensible women' who are playing it down. Where are they? pt Who mentioned a list of sensible women? Think the implication being if a woman isnt agreeing with the furore then she cant be sensible....how I read it anyway. --Why make it so complicated when I'm clearly suggesting he sees 'playing it down' as the sensible approach! Mind you, you do have a point... Just remember people, criticism isn't cancellation. When certain people opine that "you can't say anything any more" they are usually too lazy these days to even-think of the final words... "without some annoying so-and-so criticising you or suggesting you shouldn't be doing it!" But in reality people have never had more freedom to say whatever they feel like from dawn to dusk imo, certainly in my days anyway. pt" Who are you referring to in your comment? Whos this 'he' who is saying that playing it down is the sensible approach? | |||
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"I wonder if there would have been similar howls of outrage had it been a female official kissing the player, or even a female official kissing a male player. I think not. Bess x" If they pretended the other party was lying?! Of course there would have!! What do you think of Andrew Tate btw, and my post above? I've been talking to young men who think women (or the 'ho' and 'uneducated' type at least) should be property effectively. 1000 who disagree with them means nothing to them (women are foolish anyway). Give them one or two who agrees? "It's proof man! Even the women say it." pt | |||
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"People need to lighten up. Puts a shadow on the girls winning. A kiss in the moment that is all if she was so offended she should of slapped his face." All abit spur of the moment as she picked him up as well so feel it was all in celebration but others shouting has meant the lady has now kicked off. Definitely tarnishes the win & the pile on is truly ridiculous which Definitely just devalues womens football further. He'll get the heave ho but the damage is done either way to both. | |||
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"I wonder if there would have been similar howls of outrage had it been a female official kissing the player, or even a female official kissing a male player. I think not. Bess x If they pretended the other party was lying?! Of course there would have!! What do you think of Andrew Tate btw, and my post above? I've been talking to young men who think women (or the 'ho' and 'uneducated' type at least) should be property effectively. 1000 who disagree with them means nothing to them (women are foolish anyway). Give them one or two who agrees? "It's proof man! Even the women say it." pt" No, there wouldnt have been the same outrage. Nothing remotely like it | |||
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"I wonder if there would have been similar howls of outrage had it been a female official kissing the player, or even a female official kissing a male player. I think not. Bess x If they pretended the other party was lying?! Of course there would have!! What do you think of Andrew Tate btw, and my post above? I've been talking to young men who think women (or the 'ho' and 'uneducated' type at least) should be property effectively. 1000 who disagree with them means nothing to them (women are foolish anyway). Give them one or two who agrees? "It's proof man! Even the women say it." pt No, there wouldnt have been the same outrage. Nothing remotely like it" See the clip from York races this week…you know the one that supposedly wasn’t that big a deal | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. " Happy to say I disagree with anyone who thinks it was acceptable | |||
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"Can only think you’d be so keen to defend this man if you yourself act in this way? Or want to act in this way freely? Or know people that act in this way? " Oh come off it, you dont really believe that do you?. However a few things to consider. Unless youve been in that situation its impossible to say what anyone would do. Not sure anyone is "defending" anything. There is no denying he made a mistake for which he has apologised. The debate is about turning it into such a drama. The media feeding it and a lot of hate from others. Its for the Spanish fa to sort out and its an unholy mess. If they need to sack people for poor performance or gross misconduct etc fine.. But lets surely not let it be for a misplaced kiss. Im sure it's also true that some women have had to tolerate some shitty behaviours... And again... If the solution to that is sacking this chap... Fine...but conflating issues does any real issues a massive disservice. | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. Happy to say I disagree with anyone who thinks it was acceptable "Just not directly to a woman on a thread though. Only men | |||
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. -I'm actually looking for this list of 'sensible women' who are playing it down. Where are they? pt Who mentioned a list of sensible women? Think the implication being if a woman isnt agreeing with the furore then she cant be sensible....how I read it anyway. --Why make it so complicated when I'm clearly suggesting he sees 'playing it down' as the sensible approach! Mind you, you do have a point... Just remember people, criticism isn't cancellation. When certain people opine that "you can't say anything any more" they are usually too lazy these days to even-think of the final words... "without some annoying so-and-so criticising you or suggesting you shouldn't be doing it!" But in reality people have never had more freedom to say whatever they feel like from dawn to dusk imo, certainly in my days anyway. pt Who are you referring to in your comment? Whos this 'he' who is saying that playing it down is the sensible approach? " I dunno, the guy who's been saying Rubiales losing his job is a step too far?
He hasn't just shown incompetence anyway, (not just the crotch grab apparently - he has history) and kissed the way he did, he's slandered Hermoso knowing full-well that women are very often portrayed as 'liars' in these matters. I believe her 100%. Don't you? He's an utter coward hiding behind horrible politics imo.
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"Interesting how the woman above whos played the whole thing down has escaped any rebuking, yet the men who offer up a similar opinion are set upon. Funny that isnt it. Happy to say I disagree with anyone who thinks it was acceptable
Just not directly to a woman on a thread though. Only men"I didn't reply to anyone with my original post - it was a standalone post. Not that it matters, of course. But if you honestly think I'm too scared to disagree with a woman in case it affects my chances of getting my leg over, you've not been paying attention. (But obviously no reason you should have been...) | |||
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