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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact "That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her. Miss | |||
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"Thoughts? Should he play for utd? Play for anyone? Not touch him with a barge pole?" He hasnt been found guilty of anything. Dreadful pressure groups should be told by utd to fuck off. Or he should sue them for restriction of trade. Cant have justice being meted out by social media pressure groups...same type of thing happening with farell just because he's unpopular with some people. Terrible terrible path to go down. You could be next. | |||
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"Thoughts? Should he play for utd? Play for anyone? Not touch him with a barge pole? He hasnt been found guilty of anything. Dreadful pressure groups should be told by utd to fuck off. Or he should sue them for restriction of trade. Cant have justice being meted out by social media pressure groups...same type of thing happening with farell just because he's unpopular with some people. Terrible terrible path to go down. You could be next. " Jimmy Savile was never found guilty. Would you let him babysit your kids | |||
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"He wasn’t found innocent. The CPS dropped it because the main witness backed out when she became pregnant by him despite his bail conditions banning him from contacting her……" Also add that one of the charges was for coercive behaviour. | |||
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"Thoughts? Should he play for utd? Play for anyone? Not touch him with a barge pole? He hasnt been found guilty of anything. Dreadful pressure groups should be told by utd to fuck off. Or he should sue them for restriction of trade. Cant have justice being meted out by social media pressure groups...same type of thing happening with farell just because he's unpopular with some people. Terrible terrible path to go down. You could be next. " OJ Simpson was found to be innocent of two counts of murder. | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Miss"Yes he did break bail conditions and I think maybe they are married now(maybe)...but the baby has been born. Did she make up these allegations and is that voice recording that was available for people to listen to real? are those bruises real that she was seen to have? If it's all true then NO he shouldn't be allowed to, and he should be prosecuted regardless of her not wanting to proceed with it...if as I have read she made all this up then why hasn't she come forward to publicly apologize to him and clear his name? I can't see why the two of them would want to be in a relationship together after all this...Ohh hang on though money talks with some people regardless of how they are treated!! Lack of self respect from both of them!  | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Miss
Yes he did break bail conditions and I think maybe they are married now(maybe)...but the baby has been born. Did she make up these allegations and is that voice recording that was available for people to listen to real? are those bruises real that she was seen to have? If it's all true then NO he shouldn't be allowed to, and he should be prosecuted regardless of her not wanting to proceed with it...if as I have read she made all this up then why hasn't she come forward to publicly apologize to him and clear his name? I can't see why the two of them would want to be in a relationship together after all this...Ohh hang on though money talks with some people regardless of how they are treated!! Lack of self respect from both of them! "Or maybe he played the don't ruin my life /career card,it'll never happen again etc like so many abusers do. He shouldn't have been visiting her when on bail,so he doesn't exactly seem to have any respect for her or the law . I don't follow football ,Jack does and he stands in the camp of he should never be playing again. Sadly money seems to come first in football ,so he will probably be back in no time. Maybe the truth will all come out in future,I just hope she doesn't live to regret having him back . Miss | |||
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"He wasn’t found innocent. The CPS dropped it because the main witness backed out when she became pregnant by him despite his bail conditions banning him from contacting her…… Also add that one of the charges was for coercive behaviour." I’d forgotten that. Good point. | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Miss"shes pregnant to him or had his child why would she allow him back in if he was guilty | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Missshes pregnant to him or had his child why would she allow him back in if he was guilty "Money lifestyle... | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Missshes pregnant to him or had his child why would she allow him back in if he was guilty
Money lifestyle..."I don't know how true this is ,but apparently he was supporting her family financially . | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Missshes pregnant to him or had his child why would she allow him back in if he was guilty "So you think no other women have ever had children to abusive partners or taken them back ?! | |||
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"Not being found guilty is a long way from being innocent. Fred west wasn't found guilty" To clarify, Fred West never stood trial because he hanged himself whilst on remand. So, technically, he is innocent till proven guilty, but he had confessed to 30+ murders. Rose was convicted of 10 murders. If Fred West had stood trial and was found not guilty he would have been innocent in the eyes of the Law.  | |||
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"Thoughts? Should he play for utd? Play for anyone? Not touch him with a barge pole? He hasnt been found guilty of anything. Dreadful pressure groups should be told by utd to fuck off. Or he should sue them for restriction of trade. Cant have justice being meted out by social media pressure groups...same type of thing happening with farell just because he's unpopular with some people. Terrible terrible path to go down. You could be next. OJ Simpson was found to be innocent of two counts of murder. " If the glove don't fit! And the glove didn't fit! Everything else did, but not that damn glove. | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Miss
Yes he did break bail conditions and I think maybe they are married now(maybe)...but the baby has been born. Did she make up these allegations and is that voice recording that was available for people to listen to real? are those bruises real that she was seen to have? If it's all true then NO he shouldn't be allowed to, and he should be prosecuted regardless of her not wanting to proceed with it...if as I have read she made all this up then why hasn't she come forward to publicly apologize to him and clear his name? I can't see why the two of them would want to be in a relationship together after all this...Ohh hang on though money talks with some people regardless of how they are treated!! Lack of self respect from both of them!
Or maybe he played the don't ruin my life /career card,it'll never happen again etc like so many abusers do.
He shouldn't have been visiting her when on bail,so he doesn't exactly seem to have any respect for her or the law .
I don't follow football ,Jack does and he stands in the camp of he should never be playing again.
Sadly money seems to come first in football ,so he will probably be back in no time.
Maybe the truth will all come out in future,I just hope she doesn't live to regret having him back .
Miss"Maybe he did play that abusive card...abusers go out of their way to retain control. Her father was quoted as saying the first he'd heard of the allegations is when it was in the paper. Yes he should have been prosecuted for breaking bail conditions, like you say total lack of respect for the Law and it seems for her too. The truth usually does come out eventually! | |||
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"Not being found guilty is a long way from being innocent. Fred west wasn't found guilty To clarify, Fred West never stood trial because he hanged himself whilst on remand. So, technically, he is innocent till proven guilty, but he had confessed to 30+ murders. Rose was convicted of 10 murders. If Fred West had stood trial and was found not guilty he would have been innocent in the eyes of the Law. "No, he is presumed innocent in the eyes of the law. Presumed innocent does not make you innocent. There is a reason for this very specific wording. That quote gets bastardised enough. | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Missshes pregnant to him or had his child why would she allow him back in if he was guilty
Money lifestyle...
I don't know how true this is ,but apparently he was supporting her family financially .". There are stories that the father took money and the charges were dropped.On yesterday thread I stated that Harriet Robson had a very strong case had it gone to court then she drops the charges drops her knickers is in a relationship with Mason and they have a child together.As I said yesterday I feel she is a gold digger. | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Missshes pregnant to him or had his child why would she allow him back in if he was guilty "
Most people don't leave an abusive relationship after the first incident or the second, for that matter...
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Missshes pregnant to him or had his child why would she allow him back in if he was guilty
Money lifestyle...
I don't know how true this is ,but apparently he was supporting her family financially .. There are stories that the father took money and the charges were dropped.On yesterday thread I stated that Harriet Robson had a very strong case had it gone to court then she drops the charges drops her knickers is in a relationship with Mason and they have a child together.As I said yesterday I feel she is a gold digger."Yep we know that's your view Everything you say about her is dripping with scorn ,yet no condemnation of him at all. These posts certainly make for good filters . | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Missshes pregnant to him or had his child why would she allow him back in if he was guilty
Money lifestyle..."well she dropped charges so hes innocent | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Missshes pregnant to him or had his child why would she allow him back in if he was guilty
Money lifestyle...
I don't know how true this is ,but apparently he was supporting her family financially .. There are stories that the father took money and the charges were dropped.On yesterday thread I stated that Harriet Robson had a very strong case had it gone to court then she drops the charges drops her knickers is in a relationship with Mason and they have a child together.As I said yesterday I feel she is a gold digger.
Yep we know that's your view
Everything you say about her is dripping with scorn ,yet no condemnation of him at all.
These posts certainly make for good filters .". Mason is not any better beating up a woman if anything he is worse.You got to feel sorry for the child a father who is an abuser and a mother for a gold digger. | |||
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"We all know he did it, we heard the recordings and see the pics he’s a nasty prick if she’s dopey enough to take him back that’s down to her but if he plays again in this country what message does that send? Get him out the country" Where to? Australia? Shall we get all people who are not guilty out of the country? On the whim of social media and todays chip papers? Terrible idea. | |||
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"Not being found guilty is a long way from being innocent. Fred west wasn't found guilty To clarify, Fred West never stood trial because he hanged himself whilst on remand. So, technically, he is innocent till proven guilty, but he had confessed to 30+ murders. Rose was convicted of 10 murders. If Fred West had stood trial and was found not guilty he would have been innocent in the eyes of the Law.
No, he is presumed innocent in the eyes of the law. Presumed innocent does not make you innocent.
There is a reason for this very specific wording.
That quote gets bastardised enough. "We’ve been through this on the other thread. The presumption of innocence is how a person must be treated by the court unless they are proved beyond a doubt to be guilty and therefore convicted. He is innocent. No conviction. That’s it. As said before, these are legal terms and just because someone is not convicted doesn’t mean that they didn’t do the crime. We don’t know what has actually happened, but it appears that the woman has made amends with him and done whatever she can to stop the trial going ahead. The cps statement seems to suggest this. Anything else here is pure speculation, unless people know them and their family. | |||
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"We all know he did it, we heard the recordings and see the pics he’s a nasty prick if she’s dopey enough to take him back that’s down to her but if he plays again in this country what message does that send? Get him out the country Where to? Australia? Shall we get all people who are not guilty out of the country? On the whim of social media and todays chip papers? Terrible idea. " yes cmon lets send a prison barge to australia....... Do you ever get that feeling of de ja vous | |||
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"Wasn't this done the other day who gives a f#£k " Rachel Riley and her band of social media warriors | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact
That doesn't mean he didn't do what he was accused of
He broke bail conditions to go to her so could have done/said anything to her.
Missshes pregnant to him or had his child why would she allow him back in if he was guilty
So you think no other women have ever had children to abusive partners or taken them back ?!"Where did he write that? | |||
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"Wasn't this done the other day who gives a f#£k Rachel Riley and her band of social media warriors " . I saw a picture on social media of her been presented a Man Utd shirt by Ryan Giggs I guess she returned that to him | |||
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"Thoughts? Should he play for utd? Play for anyone? Not touch him with a barge pole? He hasnt been found guilty of anything. Dreadful pressure groups should be told by utd to fuck off. Or he should sue them for restriction of trade. Cant have justice being meted out by social media pressure groups...same type of thing happening with farell just because he's unpopular with some people. Terrible terrible path to go down. You could be next. OJ Simpson was found to be innocent of two counts of murder. " The guildford 4 were found guilty. Not sure what your point is? | |||
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"On average a domestically abused partner goes back to their abuser seven times. Back when the club had standards Tommy Docherty got the sack just for having an affair. Now it’s ok to beat the crap out your partner as long as you can buy her silence. " Where is that stated? Violence is never acceptable. But two wrongs dont make a right and neither is it ok fot people who have zero facts just making shit up and applying pressute to an employer to sack one of their employees. That's an awful precedent and it could happen to any one of us. | |||
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"Wasn't this done the other day who gives a f#£k Rachel Riley and her band of social media warriors . I saw a picture on social media of her been presented a Man Utd shirt by Ryan Giggs I guess she returned that to him " Ill have one from the top and two from the bottom. | |||
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"On average a domestically abused partner goes back to their abuser seven times. Back when the club had standards Tommy Docherty got the sack just for having an affair. Now it’s ok to beat the crap out your partner as long as you can buy her silence. Where is that stated? Violence is never acceptable. But two wrongs dont make a right and neither is it ok fot people who have zero facts just making shit up and applying pressute to an employer to sack one of their employees. That's an awful precedent and it could happen to any one of us. " There’s photographic and video evidence as well as quite a harrowing transcript of him forcing himself upon her, you’d only record it if it had been happening regularly | |||
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"On average a domestically abused partner goes back to their abuser seven times. Back when the club had standards Tommy Docherty got the sack just for having an affair. Now it’s ok to beat the crap out your partner as long as you can buy her silence. Where is that stated? Violence is never acceptable. But two wrongs dont make a right and neither is it ok fot people who have zero facts just making shit up and applying pressute to an employer to sack one of their employees. That's an awful precedent and it could happen to any one of us. There’s photographic and video evidence as well as quite a harrowing transcript of him forcing himself upon her, you’d only record it if it had been happening regularly " Well obviously you know more than the police and prosecution and those individuals associated with the events. | |||
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"Thoughts? Should he play for utd? Play for anyone? Not touch him with a barge pole? He hasnt been found guilty of anything. Dreadful pressure groups should be told by utd to fuck off. Or he should sue them for restriction of trade. Cant have justice being meted out by social media pressure groups...same type of thing happening with farell just because he's unpopular with some people. Terrible terrible path to go down. You could be next. OJ Simpson was found to be innocent of two counts of murder. Still doesn’t mean that anyone has to stand trial by the collective of screaming half wits on social media " | |||
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"Thoughts? Should he play for utd? Play for anyone? Not touch him with a barge pole? He hasnt been found guilty of anything. Dreadful pressure groups should be told by utd to fuck off. Or he should sue them for restriction of trade. Cant have justice being meted out by social media pressure groups...same type of thing happening with farell just because he's unpopular with some people. Terrible terrible path to go down. You could be next. OJ Simpson was found to be innocent of two counts of murder. The guildford 4 were found guilty. Not sure what your point is? " What the court believes to be the case isn’t necessarily what happened. I’ve listened to the tape and seen the pictures, and I wouldn’t be able to support a team that someone like that plays for. It’s for everyone to make their own decision on that though. | |||
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"On average a domestically abused partner goes back to their abuser seven times. Back when the club had standards Tommy Docherty got the sack just for having an affair. Now it’s ok to beat the crap out your partner as long as you can buy her silence. Where is that stated? Violence is never acceptable. But two wrongs dont make a right and neither is it ok fot people who have zero facts just making shit up and applying pressute to an employer to sack one of their employees. That's an awful precedent and it could happen to any one of us. There’s photographic and video evidence as well as quite a harrowing transcript of him forcing himself upon her, you’d only record it if it had been happening regularly Well obviously you know more than the police and prosecution and those individuals associated with the events. " It’s amazing what can happen when you can buy the silence of the key witness, if he’d been an ordinary guy he’d be locked up around now. | |||
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"Thoughts? Should he play for utd? Play for anyone? Not touch him with a barge pole? He hasnt been found guilty of anything. Dreadful pressure groups should be told by utd to fuck off. Or he should sue them for restriction of trade. Cant have justice being meted out by social media pressure groups...same type of thing happening with farell just because he's unpopular with some people. Terrible terrible path to go down. You could be next. OJ Simpson was found to be innocent of two counts of murder. The guildford 4 were found guilty. Not sure what your point is? What the court believes to be the case isn’t necessarily what happened. I’ve listened to the tape and seen the pictures, and I wouldn’t be able to support a team that someone like that plays for. It’s for everyone to make their own decision on that though." Im sure many will be queueing up to have your your season ticket. If social media is able to influence who supports who then lets explore it properly.. The money behind Newcastle, man city, man utd et al being one example. | |||
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"Should never play again. I'm understand innocent until proven guilty. However when recordings and videos are made public and proof of the abuse, and key witnesses just happen to withdraw since she got pregnant by him it doesnt suddenly make him innocent. He's got away with going to jail. But he certainly shouldn't be playing " That's the thing, if you or I was to witness someone commit a crime, and yet they were found or considered not guilty by a court of law, we'd still know they are guilty regardless of findings. | |||
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"The only reason Mason Greenwood is innocent man is because witnesses refused to take part in a court case. The Robson family are the witnesses and they look at Mason as a meal ticket. " . That’s pretty much how I see it. | |||
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"The only reason Mason Greenwood is innocent man is because witnesses refused to take part in a court case. The Robson family are the witnesses and they look at Mason as a meal ticket. " whether hes a meal ticket or not is beside the point he's innocent in the eyes of the law and whether he gets to play football again is unimportant | |||
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"The only reason Mason Greenwood is innocent man is because witnesses refused to take part in a court case. The Robson family are the witnesses and they look at Mason as a meal ticket. " That's exactly it. Her father is as bad as the rapist. | |||
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"On average a domestically abused partner goes back to their abuser seven times. Back when the club had standards Tommy Docherty got the sack just for having an affair. Now it’s ok to beat the crap out your partner as long as you can buy her silence. Where is that stated? Violence is never acceptable. But two wrongs dont make a right and neither is it ok fot people who have zero facts just making shit up and applying pressute to an employer to sack one of their employees. That's an awful precedent and it could happen to any one of us. There’s photographic and video evidence as well as quite a harrowing transcript of him forcing himself upon her, you’d only record it if it had been happening regularly Well obviously you know more than the police and prosecution and those individuals associated with the events. It’s amazing what can happen when you can buy the silence of the key witness, if he’d been an ordinary guy he’d be locked up around now. " And you know that for a fact how? | |||
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"Harriet Robson the young lady who made the allegations then dropped the charges has taken him back , is in a relationship with him , has had a child with him.The way I see it he should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.For what it’s worth I am a Man Utd fan and I would be saying the same thing if it was a player from another team." You’ve obviously not seen the photos or the transcript that has been in the public domain? I’d be interested to know what his “teammates” think of it all, I’d certainly be against him rejoining any team I was involved in | |||
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"Harriet Robson the young lady who made the allegations then dropped the charges has taken him back , is in a relationship with him , has had a child with him.The way I see it he should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.For what it’s worth I am a Man Utd fan and I would be saying the same thing if it was a player from another team. You’ve obviously not seen the photos or the transcript that has been in the public domain? I’d be interested to know what his “teammates” think of it all, I’d certainly be against him rejoining any team I was involved in " . I have heard the audio and seen the pictures and they are not good and yes Mason is a arsehole.If Harriet had gone to court that I would be all for kicking him out of football but she didn’t. I have called her a gold digger and in a way perhaps they deserve each other.To be brutal if she can take him back to use him as a meal ticket why can’t we take him back and use him on the pitch.I don’t agree with all this let the directors, owners , sponsors have a say.Ask the manager and players what they feel and go from there. | |||
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"Harriet Robson the young lady who made the allegations then dropped the charges has taken him back , is in a relationship with him , has had a child with him.The way I see it he should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.For what it’s worth I am a Man Utd fan and I would be saying the same thing if it was a player from another team. You’ve obviously not seen the photos or the transcript that has been in the public domain? I’d be interested to know what his “teammates” think of it all, I’d certainly be against him rejoining any team I was involved in . I have heard the audio and seen the pictures and they are not good and yes Mason is a arsehole.If Harriet had gone to court that I would be all for kicking him out of football but she didn’t. I have called her a gold digger and in a way perhaps they deserve each other.To be brutal if she can take him back to use him as a meal ticket why can’t we take him back and use him on the pitch.I don’t agree with all this let the directors, owners , sponsors have a say.Ask the manager and players what they feel and go from there." What about female staff at the club or supporters? Do their opinions count for nothing? A precedent has to be set for me. The club will fall on one side of the sword, they should be making it the right side. What do they do when it happens again because the fact she recorded it tells you it wasn’t a one off | |||
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"Harriet Robson the young lady who made the allegations then dropped the charges has taken him back , is in a relationship with him , has had a child with him.The way I see it he should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.For what it’s worth I am a Man Utd fan and I would be saying the same thing if it was a player from another team. You’ve obviously not seen the photos or the transcript that has been in the public domain? I’d be interested to know what his “teammates” think of it all, I’d certainly be against him rejoining any team I was involved in " You say that as if its a choice you have. | |||
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"Harriet Robson the young lady who made the allegations then dropped the charges has taken him back , is in a relationship with him , has had a child with him.The way I see it he should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.For what it’s worth I am a Man Utd fan and I would be saying the same thing if it was a player from another team. You’ve obviously not seen the photos or the transcript that has been in the public domain? I’d be interested to know what his “teammates” think of it all, I’d certainly be against him rejoining any team I was involved in You say that as if its a choice you have. " You say it as if players don’t have a voice | |||
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"Harriet Robson the young lady who made the allegations then dropped the charges has taken him back , is in a relationship with him , has had a child with him.The way I see it he should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.For what it’s worth I am a Man Utd fan and I would be saying the same thing if it was a player from another team. You’ve obviously not seen the photos or the transcript that has been in the public domain? I’d be interested to know what his “teammates” think of it all, I’d certainly be against him rejoining any team I was involved in . I have heard the audio and seen the pictures and they are not good and yes Mason is a arsehole.If Harriet had gone to court that I would be all for kicking him out of football but she didn’t. I have called her a gold digger and in a way perhaps they deserve each other.To be brutal if she can take him back to use him as a meal ticket why can’t we take him back and use him on the pitch.I don’t agree with all this let the directors, owners , sponsors have a say.Ask the manager and players what they feel and go from there. What about female staff at the club or supporters? Do their opinions count for nothing? A precedent has to be set for me. The club will fall on one side of the sword, they should be making it the right side. What do they do when it happens again because the fact she recorded it tells you it wasn’t a one off " The bottom line is, regardless of anything is the club do not care what he did (or didn't do) so long as they can financially benefit. And keeping him even if it is disliked, the majority of people will continue to support the club, both spiritually and financially as they always have. Even those that do make a fuss will still continue to support after a bit of a grumble. A very small section of a minority will actually stand by what they say and walk away from supporting the club. They don't care about the gossip, or any he said she said, they don't even care if he actually did it. Their focus is solely on how do they gain more money from it. | |||
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"Harriet Robson the young lady who made the allegations then dropped the charges has taken him back , is in a relationship with him , has had a child with him.The way I see it he should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.For what it’s worth I am a Man Utd fan and I would be saying the same thing if it was a player from another team. You’ve obviously not seen the photos or the transcript that has been in the public domain? I’d be interested to know what his “teammates” think of it all, I’d certainly be against him rejoining any team I was involved in . I have heard the audio and seen the pictures and they are not good and yes Mason is a arsehole.If Harriet had gone to court that I would be all for kicking him out of football but she didn’t. I have called her a gold digger and in a way perhaps they deserve each other.To be brutal if she can take him back to use him as a meal ticket why can’t we take him back and use him on the pitch.I don’t agree with all this let the directors, owners , sponsors have a say.Ask the manager and players what they feel and go from there. What about female staff at the club or supporters? Do their opinions count for nothing? A precedent has to be set for me. The club will fall on one side of the sword, they should be making it the right side. What do they do when it happens again because the fact she recorded it tells you it wasn’t a one off " . If you ask everyone connected to the club you will get so many different opinions that you will get confused with what you need to do.Most of Mason contact will be with his manager and teammates which is why I feel it should be a decision for the manager failing that maybe the Glazers as owners should make the decision. | |||
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"Harriet Robson the young lady who made the allegations then dropped the charges has taken him back , is in a relationship with him , has had a child with him.The way I see it he should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.For what it’s worth I am a Man Utd fan and I would be saying the same thing if it was a player from another team. You’ve obviously not seen the photos or the transcript that has been in the public domain? I’d be interested to know what his “teammates” think of it all, I’d certainly be against him rejoining any team I was involved in . I have heard the audio and seen the pictures and they are not good and yes Mason is a arsehole.If Harriet had gone to court that I would be all for kicking him out of football but she didn’t. I have called her a gold digger and in a way perhaps they deserve each other.To be brutal if she can take him back to use him as a meal ticket why can’t we take him back and use him on the pitch.I don’t agree with all this let the directors, owners , sponsors have a say.Ask the manager and players what they feel and go from there. What about female staff at the club or supporters? Do their opinions count for nothing? A precedent has to be set for me. The club will fall on one side of the sword, they should be making it the right side. What do they do when it happens again because the fact she recorded it tells you it wasn’t a one off The bottom line is, regardless of anything is the club do not care what he did (or didn't do) so long as they can financially benefit. And keeping him even if it is disliked, the majority of people will continue to support the club, both spiritually and financially as they always have. Even those that do make a fuss will still continue to support after a bit of a grumble. A very small section of a minority will actually stand by what they say and walk away from supporting the club. They don't care about the gossip, or any he said she said, they don't even care if he actually did it. Their focus is solely on how do they gain more money from it. " Sadly I believe you’re right | |||
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"Thoughts? Should he play for utd? Play for anyone? Not touch him with a barge pole? He hasnt been found guilty of anything. Dreadful pressure groups should be told by utd to fuck off. Or he should sue them for restriction of trade. Cant have justice being meted out by social media pressure groups...same type of thing happening with farell just because he's unpopular with some people. Terrible terrible path to go down. You could be next. OJ Simpson was found to be innocent of two counts of murder. The guildford 4 were found guilty. Not sure what your point is? What the court believes to be the case isn’t necessarily what happened. I’ve listened to the tape and seen the pictures, and I wouldn’t be able to support a team that someone like that plays for. It’s for everyone to make their own decision on that though. Im sure many will be queueing up to have your your season ticket. If social media is able to influence who supports who then lets explore it properly.. The money behind Newcastle, man city, man utd et al being one example. " Absolutely, I wouldn’t support a team owned by a regime that murders journalists. Just as I wouldn’t support a team that has a domestic abuser playing for them. That’s only my conscience though, and other people have to decide what they think is acceptable. | |||
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"Harriet Robson the young lady who made the allegations then dropped the charges has taken him back , is in a relationship with him , has had a child with him.The way I see it he should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.For what it’s worth I am a Man Utd fan and I would be saying the same thing if it was a player from another team. You’ve obviously not seen the photos or the transcript that has been in the public domain? I’d be interested to know what his “teammates” think of it all, I’d certainly be against him rejoining any team I was involved in You say that as if its a choice you have. You say it as if players don’t have a voice " They can choose to break their contract on the basis of a lot of social media pressure and a handful of celebrity women saying they wont support the club any more. Lets see how many of them make that choice. | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact "That doesn't make him innocent in the slightest Anyone who has either been in an abusive relationship or knows someone who has knows that it's not always easy to get out that situation | |||
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"A premier league footballer can have his pick of women. Why would he go back to the one that ruined his career and took away millions of pounds from him? He wouldn’t. What does this tell you?" He’s gone back to take revenge? | |||
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"A premier league footballer can have his pick of women. Why would he go back to the one that ruined his career and took away millions of pounds from him? He wouldn’t. What does this tell you? He’s gone back to take revenge?" He’s clearly guilty. We’ve all seen/heard the evidence and he shouldn’t be allowed to play again. | |||
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"A premier league footballer can have his pick of women. Why would he go back to the one that ruined his career and took away millions of pounds from him? He wouldn’t. What does this tell you? He’s gone back to take revenge? He’s clearly guilty. We’ve all seen/heard the evidence and he shouldn’t be allowed to play again." Tbh I shouldn’t comment because I don’t know anything about it | |||
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"A premier league footballer can have his pick of women. Why would he go back to the one that ruined his career and took away millions of pounds from him? He wouldn’t. What does this tell you? He’s gone back to take revenge? He’s clearly guilty. We’ve all seen/heard the evidence and he shouldn’t be allowed to play again. Tbh I shouldn’t comment because I don’t know anything about it "There’s videos/audio and pictures of the abuse. She clearly says no in the audio and he carries on. For her to record that it must have happened before. He’s scum and no matter how good he is at kicking a ball he should be jailed. | |||
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"Harriet Robson the young lady who made the allegations then dropped the charges has taken him back , is in a relationship with him , has had a child with him.The way I see it he should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.For what it’s worth I am a Man Utd fan and I would be saying the same thing if it was a player from another team. You’ve obviously not seen the photos or the transcript that has been in the public domain? I’d be interested to know what his “teammates” think of it all, I’d certainly be against him rejoining any team I was involved in . I have heard the audio and seen the pictures and they are not good and yes Mason is a arsehole.If Harriet had gone to court that I would be all for kicking him out of football but she didn’t. I have called her a gold digger and in a way perhaps they deserve each other.To be brutal if she can take him back to use him as a meal ticket why can’t we take him back and use him on the pitch.I don’t agree with all this let the directors, owners , sponsors have a say.Ask the manager and players what they feel and go from there. What about female staff at the club or supporters? Do their opinions count for nothing? A precedent has to be set for me. The club will fall on one side of the sword, they should be making it the right side. What do they do when it happens again because the fact she recorded it tells you it wasn’t a one off "  | |||
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"Ben Stokes beat the shit out of someone and now is the England captain... technically he was found not guilty but the video was pretty damming. Some parallels there." I'm in the camp of 'everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law'. However, the Ben Stokes incident was a bit different to this. You should go watch Ben Stokes: Phoenix From The Ashes. | |||
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"Ben Stokes beat the shit out of someone and now is the England captain... technically he was found not guilty but the video was pretty damming. Some parallels there." Ben Stokes was defending two gay men who were being abused in the street. Mason Greenwood tried to force his partner into sex as well as beating and threatening her, along with breaking bail conditions by following up on her. | |||
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"Yes, I'm a big believer in innocent until proven guilty, but in this case mojority have heard the phone calls and voicemail, seen the pics and evidence for ourselves, so it easier to judge. If you haven't I suggest you take a look and make your own mind uo what sort of a character he is. If you still want him to be a role model for people then take a look in the mirror and ask what sort of a person are you yourself. " By all means. Make your judgement on the evidence you've seen/heard. However, telling people to look in the mirror because they'd rather not believe everything they see/hear is ridiculous. You tell people to 'take a look and make up their own mind' but actually that's not really what you want. Photos can easily be doctored, audio too. Or the audio is completely out of context. We don't actually know the truth. The CPS have decided not to prosecute because the 'main witness pulled out' AND 'new evidence came to light'. | |||
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"Yes, I'm a big believer in innocent until proven guilty, but in this case mojority have heard the phone calls and voicemail, seen the pics and evidence for ourselves, so it easier to judge. If you haven't I suggest you take a look and make your own mind uo what sort of a character he is. If you still want him to be a role model for people then take a look in the mirror and ask what sort of a person are you yourself. By all means. Make your judgement on the evidence you've seen/heard. However, telling people to look in the mirror because they'd rather not believe everything they see/hear is ridiculous. You tell people to 'take a look and make up their own mind' but actually that's not really what you want. Photos can easily be doctored, audio too. Or the audio is completely out of context. We don't actually know the truth. The CPS have decided not to prosecute because the 'main witness pulled out' AND 'new evidence came to light'. " Don't let facts get in the way of a good pile on | |||
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"United should release him and state that his conduct does not fit in with the clubs values. They won’t but that’s what they should do imo. I’m a lifelong United fan btw" Totally agree and a Red here for over 30 years | |||
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"A premier league footballer can have his pick of women. Why would he go back to the one that ruined his career and took away millions of pounds from him? He wouldn’t. What does this tell you? He’s gone back to take revenge?" or hes gone back to get innocent, either way how does anyone in this day and age believe the media? | |||
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"A premier league footballer can have his pick of women. Why would he go back to the one that ruined his career and took away millions of pounds from him? He wouldn’t. What does this tell you? He’s gone back to take revenge? He’s clearly guilty. We’ve all seen/heard the evidence and he shouldn’t be allowed to play again." He clearly isn’t, or he would have a conviction. | |||
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"A premier league footballer can have his pick of women. Why would he go back to the one that ruined his career and took away millions of pounds from him? He wouldn’t. What does this tell you? He’s gone back to take revenge? He’s clearly guilty. We’ve all seen/heard the evidence and he shouldn’t be allowed to play again. He clearly isn’t, or he would have a conviction." Guess you have not seen the video or heard him abusing the woman then. | |||
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"A premier league footballer can have his pick of women. Why would he go back to the one that ruined his career and took away millions of pounds from him? He wouldn’t. What does this tell you? He’s gone back to take revenge? He’s clearly guilty. We’ve all seen/heard the evidence and he shouldn’t be allowed to play again. He clearly isn’t, or he would have a conviction." | |||
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"A premier league footballer can have his pick of women. Why would he go back to the one that ruined his career and took away millions of pounds from him? He wouldn’t. What does this tell you? He’s gone back to take revenge? He’s clearly guilty. We’ve all seen/heard the evidence and he shouldn’t be allowed to play again. He clearly isn’t, or he would have a conviction." That’s not how the law works, unfortunately. | |||
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"Yes, I'm a big believer in innocent until proven guilty, but in this case mojority have heard the phone calls and voicemail, seen the pics and evidence for ourselves, so it easier to judge. If you haven't I suggest you take a look and make your own mind uo what sort of a character he is. If you still want him to be a role model for people then take a look in the mirror and ask what sort of a person are you yourself. By all means. Make your judgement on the evidence you've seen/heard. However, telling people to look in the mirror because they'd rather not believe everything they see/hear is ridiculous. You tell people to 'take a look and make up their own mind' but actually that's not really what you want. Photos can easily be doctored, audio too. Or the audio is completely out of context. We don't actually know the truth. The CPS have decided not to prosecute because the 'main witness pulled out' AND 'new evidence came to light'. " | |||
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"A premier league footballer can have his pick of women. Why would he go back to the one that ruined his career and took away millions of pounds from him? He wouldn’t. What does this tell you? He’s gone back to take revenge? He’s clearly guilty. We’ve all seen/heard the evidence and he shouldn’t be allowed to play again. He clearly isn’t, or he would have a conviction. Guess you have not seen the video or heard him abusing the woman then. " Or maybe realises that you cant take a 2 minute clip from the media and conclude much from it? Either way clearly he wasnt guilty or he would have been foubd guilty. | |||
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"Mason: put your legs up (loudly) move your fucking legs up Harriet: No, I don't wanna have sex Mason: I don't give a fuck what you want you little shit Harriet: Mason! Mason: Shut up! Talking to me, stop! Harriet: Stop putting your dick there Mason: I wanna fuck you you twat Harriet: I don't wanna have sex with you Mason: I don't care you want fucking sex with me. Sounds like a lovely lad "So is he in trial for "not being a lovely lad" then? On that basis, theres a few on here wouldnt pass that test. But still allowed to go about their business. | |||
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"Mason: put your legs up (loudly) move your fucking legs up Harriet: No, I don't wanna have sex Mason: I don't give a fuck what you want you little shit Harriet: Mason! Mason: Shut up! Talking to me, stop! Harriet: Stop putting your dick there Mason: I wanna fuck you you twat Harriet: I don't wanna have sex with you Mason: I don't care you want fucking sex with me. Sounds like a lovely lad ". If it went to court and the above audio was played Mason’s lawyers would have said they we’re playing some sort of role play game.You have 12 people on a jury and a majority of 10-2 is needed for a conviction.Put a seed of doubt in 3-5 of the jury and you can’t get a majority verdict then the case collapses and Mason is found not guilty.I know this as in 2001 I did my jury service and we could not find the man guilty of r*** only on sexual contact could we find him guilty. | |||
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"Mason: put your legs up (loudly) move your fucking legs up Harriet: No, I don't wanna have sex Mason: I don't give a fuck what you want you little shit Harriet: Mason! Mason: Shut up! Talking to me, stop! Harriet: Stop putting your dick there Mason: I wanna fuck you you twat Harriet: I don't wanna have sex with you Mason: I don't care you want fucking sex with me. Sounds like a lovely lad . If it went to court and the above audio was played Mason’s lawyers would have said they we’re playing some sort of role play game.You have 12 people on a jury and a majority of 10-2 is needed for a conviction.Put a seed of doubt in 3-5 of the jury and you can’t get a majority verdict then the case collapses and Mason is found not guilty.I know this as in 2001 I did my jury service and we could not find the man guilty of r*** only on sexual contact could we find him guilty.". Sorry I meant to say I did my jury service 2013 | |||
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"This is their suarez moment, liverpool got that massively wrong, united will be judged the same way, we all watched and heard the video, no matter how good he is. And this is all its about, he is needed at utd. It has to be a No get him out!" I never watched or heard the vid but if shes filmed it why did she film it and did she get masons permission to film it, if its role play its role play, if she didn't get his permission surely thats out of order, if she's had a baby to him surely thats the answer hes innocent | |||
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"This is their suarez moment, liverpool got that massively wrong, united will be judged the same way, we all watched and heard the video, no matter how good he is. And this is all its about, he is needed at utd. It has to be a No get him out!I never watched or heard the vid but if shes filmed it why did she film it and did she get masons permission to film it, if its role play its role play, if she didn't get his permission surely thats out of order, if she's had a baby to him surely thats the answer hes innocent "Wow. | |||
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"This is their suarez moment, liverpool got that massively wrong, united will be judged the same way, we all watched and heard the video, no matter how good he is. And this is all its about, he is needed at utd. It has to be a No get him out!I never watched or heard the vid but if shes filmed it why did she film it and did she get masons permission to film it, if its role play its role play, if she didn't get his permission surely thats out of order, if she's had a baby to him surely thats the answer hes innocent
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"This is their suarez moment, liverpool got that massively wrong, united will be judged the same way, we all watched and heard the video, no matter how good he is. And this is all its about, he is needed at utd. It has to be a No get him out!I never watched or heard the vid but if shes filmed it why did she film it and did she get masons permission to film it, if its role play its role play, if she didn't get his permission surely thats out of order, if she's had a baby to him surely thats the answer hes innocent
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"This is their suarez moment, liverpool got that massively wrong, united will be judged the same way, we all watched and heard the video, no matter how good he is. And this is all its about, he is needed at utd. It has to be a No get him out!I never watched or heard the vid but if shes filmed it why did she film it and did she get masons permission to film it, if its role play its role play, if she didn't get his permission surely thats out of order, if she's had a baby to him surely thats the answer hes innocent "It's like you're arguing a completely different case. The video is a recording of her showing injuries, and the voice recording seems to certainly back that up. Maybe have a search, so it makes more sense for you to comment to express an actual opinion. | |||
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"This is their suarez moment, liverpool got that massively wrong, united will be judged the same way, we all watched and heard the video, no matter how good he is. And this is all its about, he is needed at utd. It has to be a No get him out!I never watched or heard the vid but if shes filmed it why did she film it and did she get masons permission to film it, if its role play its role play, if she didn't get his permission surely thats out of order, if she's had a baby to him surely thats the answer hes innocent
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If you’re defending that I really hope you don’t have any women in your life. You sound like a lovely lad too."Where did i write im defending anything? . Perhaps your vested interest is adjusting your ability to read. But thanks for your compliments. As we have never met not sure how you are able to comment though. | |||
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If you’re defending that I really hope you don’t have any women in your life. You sound like a lovely lad too.
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If you’re defending that I really hope you don’t have any women in your life. You sound like a lovely lad too.
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"This is their suarez moment, liverpool got that massively wrong, united will be judged the same way, we all watched and heard the video, no matter how good he is. And this is all its about, he is needed at utd. It has to be a No get him out!I never watched or heard the vid but if shes filmed it why did she film it and did she get masons permission to film it, if its role play its role play, if she didn't get his permission surely thats out of order, if she's had a baby to him surely thats the answer hes innocent
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"Think people need to learn what domestic abuse looks like, before being so judgmental. And how hard it is, to get a sentencing in domestic cases. Hence why the majority of cases are dropped, for said reasons. Personally, as a father myself if he did that to my daughter I’d do anything to see him prosecuted. As a football fan, Manchester United fan I don’t want him associated or near the club again, Hope this helps "You get it, just a shame some others don’t | |||
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"Think people need to learn what domestic abuse looks like, before being so judgmental. And how hard it is, to get a sentencing in domestic cases. Hence why the majority of cases are dropped, for said reasons. Personally, as a father myself if he did that to my daughter I’d do anything to see him prosecuted. As a football fan, Manchester United fan I don’t want him associated or near the club again, Hope this helps "Well said
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"Think people need to learn what domestic abuse looks like, before being so judgmental. And how hard it is, to get a sentencing in domestic cases. Hence why the majority of cases are dropped, for said reasons. Personally, as a father myself if he did that to my daughter I’d do anything to see him prosecuted. As a football fan, Manchester United fan I don’t want him associated or near the club again, Hope this helps ". Yes people do need to know what domestic abuse looks like.However I would question why would you take pictures and put them on social media and a audio recording of what was said.To get a sentencing on domestic abuse I am guessing is very difficult which is why cases are dropped.However when you partner is still picking up £75000 a week and you go back to him then I start to wonder why.As a father you say you would do everything you could to see him prosecuted which is correct but Harriet’s father did very little and may have taken money himself according to some. | |||
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"Hes innocent in the eyes of the law, whether he's innocent only she and him know, my argument is why would she have his child if he was guilty? The video sharing is a point thats brought up here in many threads and women/couples strongly object to it, conveniently she had a vid to back up the case she never persued and I'll say it again, news reporting and media reporting is all about selling newspapers and twisting the truth to do it, don't believe everything you see or read, if you disagree fine but I'm not influenced by it. Oh yes and how come they are allowed to ruin his career as a football player if he is in the eyes of the law innocent? "You're arguing a different case, altogether. He hasn't been found not guilty, the CPS feel they don't have enough evidence, there's a big difference. The video is not a sex video, but a recording of herself showing injuries. The voice recording is not a sex recording, but what seems to be one of abuse and coercion. What you describe is a different subject altogether. Refusing to be influenced by social media is very different to acknowledging the postings and recognising they are not what you assume. Again, he has not been find innocent. For someone that suggests and expresses they have absolutely no knowledge of this, what is your argument about? | |||
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"Think people need to learn what domestic abuse looks like, before being so judgmental. And how hard it is, to get a sentencing in domestic cases. Hence why the majority of cases are dropped, for said reasons. Personally, as a father myself if he did that to my daughter I’d do anything to see him prosecuted. As a football fan, Manchester United fan I don’t want him associated or near the club again, Hope this helps . Yes people do need to know what domestic abuse looks like.However I would question why would you take pictures and put them on social media and a audio recording of what was said.To get a sentencing on domestic abuse I am guessing is very difficult which is why cases are dropped.However when you partner is still picking up £75000 a week and you go back to him then I start to wonder why.As a father you say you would do everything you could to see him prosecuted which is correct but Harriet’s father did very little and may have taken money himself according to some."Give your head a wobble, look into domestic abuse buddy. | |||
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"It's heartening that so many men here have some awareness of the cycle of domestic abuse and speak up. "This.
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"Mason: put your legs up (loudly) move your fucking legs up Harriet: No, I don't wanna have sex Mason: I don't give a fuck what you want you little shit Harriet: Mason! Mason: Shut up! Talking to me, stop! Harriet: Stop putting your dick there Mason: I wanna fuck you you twat Harriet: I don't wanna have sex with you Mason: I don't care you want fucking sex with me. Sounds like a lovely lad
So is he in trial for "not being a lovely lad" then? On that basis, theres a few on here wouldnt pass that test. But still allowed to go about their business. "It's more to the people who still call him innocent. You can't read that and say "He'S INNOCEnt" but no one can be that dismissive. | |||
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"Mason: put your legs up (loudly) move your fucking legs up Harriet: No, I don't wanna have sex Mason: I don't give a fuck what you want you little shit Harriet: Mason! Mason: Shut up! Talking to me, stop! Harriet: Stop putting your dick there Mason: I wanna fuck you you twat Harriet: I don't wanna have sex with you Mason: I don't care you want fucking sex with me. Sounds like a lovely lad "Actions of an innocent man according to some | |||
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"Hes innocent in the eyes of the law, whether he's innocent only she and him know, my argument is why would she have his child if he was guilty? The video sharing is a point thats brought up here in many threads and women/couples strongly object to it, conveniently she had a vid to back up the case she never persued and I'll say it again, news reporting and media reporting is all about selling newspapers and twisting the truth to do it, don't believe everything you see or read, if you disagree fine but I'm not influenced by it. Oh yes and how come they are allowed to ruin his career as a football player if he is in the eyes of the law innocent?
You're arguing a different case, altogether.
He hasn't been found not guilty, the CPS feel they don't have enough evidence, there's a big difference.
The video is not a sex video, but a recording of herself showing injuries.
The voice recording is not a sex recording, but what seems to be one of abuse and coercion.
What you describe is a different subject altogether.
Refusing to be influenced by social media is very different to acknowledging the postings and recognising they are not what you assume.
Again, he has not been find innocent.
For someone that suggests and expresses they have absolutely no knowledge of this, what is your argument about?
"He has been let go and the woman who accused him has slept with him and has had his child, shes dropped the charges, maybe it was role play nobody here knows its all being taken out of context, maybe she's easily bruised but a woman who is being abused would not drop the charges and would not be allowed to drop charges by the legal system unless she said he was innocent, so thats some influence wouldn't you say? You've listened to media footage that has persuaded you otherwise but hes been let go to continue his life and career which is in tatters because of the ridiculous system we have of apportioning blame before verdict, if he has abused her more fool her for being talked round, i hope she hasn't for her sake but he is innocent whichever way you look at it, for now anyways | |||
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"Hes innocent in the eyes of the law, whether he's innocent only she and him know, my argument is why would she have his child if he was guilty? The video sharing is a point thats brought up here in many threads and women/couples strongly object to it, conveniently she had a vid to back up the case she never persued and I'll say it again, news reporting and media reporting is all about selling newspapers and twisting the truth to do it, don't believe everything you see or read, if you disagree fine but I'm not influenced by it. Oh yes and how come they are allowed to ruin his career as a football player if he is in the eyes of the law innocent?
You're arguing a different case, altogether.
He hasn't been found not guilty, the CPS feel they don't have enough evidence, there's a big difference.
The video is not a sex video, but a recording of herself showing injuries.
The voice recording is not a sex recording, but what seems to be one of abuse and coercion.
What you describe is a different subject altogether.
Refusing to be influenced by social media is very different to acknowledging the postings and recognising they are not what you assume.
Again, he has not been find innocent.
For someone that suggests and expresses they have absolutely no knowledge of this, what is your argument about?
He has been let go and the woman who accused him has slept with him and has had his child, shes dropped the charges, maybe it was role play nobody here knows its all being taken out of context, maybe she's easily bruised but a woman who is being abused would not drop the charges and would not be allowed to drop charges by the legal system unless she said he was innocent, so thats some influence wouldn't you say?
You've listened to media footage that has persuaded you otherwise but hes been let go to continue his life and career which is in tatters because of the ridiculous system we have of apportioning blame before verdict, if he has abused her more fool her for being talked round, i hope she hasn't for her sake but he is innocent whichever way you look at it, for now anyways "Clearly no idea how abused women feel and can’t act. What an utterly bizzare assumption to make. | |||
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"Hes innocent in the eyes of the law, whether he's innocent only she and him know, my argument is why would she have his child if he was guilty? The video sharing is a point thats brought up here in many threads and women/couples strongly object to it, conveniently she had a vid to back up the case she never persued and I'll say it again, news reporting and media reporting is all about selling newspapers and twisting the truth to do it, don't believe everything you see or read, if you disagree fine but I'm not influenced by it. Oh yes and how come they are allowed to ruin his career as a football player if he is in the eyes of the law innocent?
You're arguing a different case, altogether.
He hasn't been found not guilty, the CPS feel they don't have enough evidence, there's a big difference.
The video is not a sex video, but a recording of herself showing injuries.
The voice recording is not a sex recording, but what seems to be one of abuse and coercion.
What you describe is a different subject altogether.
Refusing to be influenced by social media is very different to acknowledging the postings and recognising they are not what you assume.
Again, he has not been find innocent.
For someone that suggests and expresses they have absolutely no knowledge of this, what is your argument about?
He has been let go and the woman who accused him has slept with him and has had his child, shes dropped the charges, maybe it was role play nobody here knows its all being taken out of context, maybe she's easily bruised but a woman who is being abused would not drop the charges and would not be allowed to drop charges by the legal system unless she said he was innocent, so thats some influence wouldn't you say?
You've listened to media footage that has persuaded you otherwise but hes been let go to continue his life and career which is in tatters because of the ridiculous system we have of apportioning blame before verdict, if he has abused her more fool her for being talked round, i hope she hasn't for her sake but he is innocent whichever way you look at it, for now anyways ""A woman who is being abused would not drop the charges" For the love of god, man, do some reading.  | |||
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"Hes innocent in the eyes of the law, whether he's innocent only she and him know, my argument is why would she have his child if he was guilty? The video sharing is a point thats brought up here in many threads and women/couples strongly object to it, conveniently she had a vid to back up the case she never persued and I'll say it again, news reporting and media reporting is all about selling newspapers and twisting the truth to do it, don't believe everything you see or read, if you disagree fine but I'm not influenced by it. Oh yes and how come they are allowed to ruin his career as a football player if he is in the eyes of the law innocent?
You're arguing a different case, altogether.
He hasn't been found not guilty, the CPS feel they don't have enough evidence, there's a big difference.
The video is not a sex video, but a recording of herself showing injuries.
The voice recording is not a sex recording, but what seems to be one of abuse and coercion.
What you describe is a different subject altogether.
Refusing to be influenced by social media is very different to acknowledging the postings and recognising they are not what you assume.
Again, he has not been find innocent.
For someone that suggests and expresses they have absolutely no knowledge of this, what is your argument about?
He has been let go and the woman who accused him has slept with him and has had his child, shes dropped the charges, maybe it was role play nobody here knows its all being taken out of context, maybe she's easily bruised but a woman who is being abused would not drop the charges and would not be allowed to drop charges by the legal system unless she said he was innocent, so thats some influence wouldn't you say?
You've listened to media footage that has persuaded you otherwise but hes been let go to continue his life and career which is in tatters because of the ridiculous system we have of apportioning blame before verdict, if he has abused her more fool her for being talked round, i hope she hasn't for her sake but he is innocent whichever way you look at it, for now anyways "Seriously, do the slightest bit of research in this, you are talking about a different case. The scenario your head is nothing alike the actual situation. I've paid very little attention to social media accounts on this, and rarely watch the news, but I paid a little attention to it. Seriously, what you are assuming is not what has been posted, or reported. You're arguing a totally different situation. Again, being released is not a declaration of innocence, only a lack of evidence. He's neither guilty, nor innocent in the eyes is the law, released only because of the situation since, they getting back together. She won't be the first to falsely accuse, if that's the case, and he won't be the first to manipulate his way (possibly using fame and fortune) back into good books to avoid prosecution, if is the case. Seriously though, take a little look yourself instead of assuming the situation, because your assumptions in what's happened are all wrong. | |||
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"Hes innocent in the eyes of the law, whether he's innocent only she and him know, my argument is why would she have his child if he was guilty? The video sharing is a point thats brought up here in many threads and women/couples strongly object to it, conveniently she had a vid to back up the case she never persued and I'll say it again, news reporting and media reporting is all about selling newspapers and twisting the truth to do it, don't believe everything you see or read, if you disagree fine but I'm not influenced by it. Oh yes and how come they are allowed to ruin his career as a football player if he is in the eyes of the law innocent?
You're arguing a different case, altogether.
He hasn't been found not guilty, the CPS feel they don't have enough evidence, there's a big difference.
The video is not a sex video, but a recording of herself showing injuries.
The voice recording is not a sex recording, but what seems to be one of abuse and coercion.
What you describe is a different subject altogether.
Refusing to be influenced by social media is very different to acknowledging the postings and recognising they are not what you assume.
Again, he has not been find innocent.
For someone that suggests and expresses they have absolutely no knowledge of this, what is your argument about?
He has been let go and the woman who accused him has slept with him and has had his child, shes dropped the charges, maybe it was role play nobody here knows its all being taken out of context, maybe she's easily bruised but a woman who is being abused would not drop the charges and would not be allowed to drop charges by the legal system unless she said he was innocent, so thats some influence wouldn't you say?
You've listened to media footage that has persuaded you otherwise but hes been let go to continue his life and career which is in tatters because of the ridiculous system we have of apportioning blame before verdict, if he has abused her more fool her for being talked round, i hope she hasn't for her sake but he is innocent whichever way you look at it, for now anyways
Seriously, do the slightest bit of research in this, you are talking about a different case.
The scenario your head is nothing alike the actual situation.
I've paid very little attention to social media accounts on this, and rarely watch the news, but I paid a little attention to it.
Seriously, what you are assuming is not what has been posted, or reported.
You're arguing a totally different situation.
Again, being released is not a declaration of innocence, only a lack of evidence.
He's neither guilty, nor innocent in the eyes is the law, released only because of the situation since, they getting back together.
She won't be the first to falsely accuse, if that's the case, and he won't be the first to manipulate his way (possibly using fame and fortune) back into good books to avoid prosecution, if is the case.
Seriously though, take a little look yourself instead of assuming the situation, because your assumptions in what's happened are all wrong.
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"Hes innocent in the eyes of the law, whether he's innocent only she and him know, my argument is why would she have his child if he was guilty? The video sharing is a point thats brought up here in many threads and women/couples strongly object to it, conveniently she had a vid to back up the case she never persued and I'll say it again, news reporting and media reporting is all about selling newspapers and twisting the truth to do it, don't believe everything you see or read, if you disagree fine but I'm not influenced by it. Oh yes and how come they are allowed to ruin his career as a football player if he is in the eyes of the law innocent?
You're arguing a different case, altogether.
He hasn't been found not guilty, the CPS feel they don't have enough evidence, there's a big difference.
The video is not a sex video, but a recording of herself showing injuries.
The voice recording is not a sex recording, but what seems to be one of abuse and coercion.
What you describe is a different subject altogether.
Refusing to be influenced by social media is very different to acknowledging the postings and recognising they are not what you assume.
Again, he has not been find innocent.
For someone that suggests and expresses they have absolutely no knowledge of this, what is your argument about?
He has been let go and the woman who accused him has slept with him and has had his child, shes dropped the charges, maybe it was role play nobody here knows its all being taken out of context, maybe she's easily bruised but a woman who is being abused would not drop the charges and would not be allowed to drop charges by the legal system unless she said he was innocent, so thats some influence wouldn't you say?
You've listened to media footage that has persuaded you otherwise but hes been let go to continue his life and career which is in tatters because of the ridiculous system we have of apportioning blame before verdict, if he has abused her more fool her for being talked round, i hope she hasn't for her sake but he is innocent whichever way you look at it, for now anyways
Seriously, do the slightest bit of research in this, you are talking about a different case.
The scenario your head is nothing alike the actual situation.
I've paid very little attention to social media accounts on this, and rarely watch the news, but I paid a little attention to it.
Seriously, what you are assuming is not what has been posted, or reported.
You're arguing a totally different situation.
Again, being released is not a declaration of innocence, only a lack of evidence.
He's neither guilty, nor innocent in the eyes is the law, released only because of the situation since, they getting back together.
She won't be the first to falsely accuse, if that's the case, and he won't be the first to manipulate his way (possibly using fame and fortune) back into good books to avoid prosecution, if is the case.
Seriously though, take a little look yourself instead of assuming the situation, because your assumptions in what's happened are all wrong.
So you are assuming he's guilty even though the person accusing him has withdrawn her evidence. "You clearly haven't even read my response, and assuming whatever suits your narrative, rather than actually try to understand what's supposedly gone on, you've made up your own story. | |||
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"Hes innocent in the eyes of the law, whether he's innocent only she and him know, my argument is why would she have his child if he was guilty? The video sharing is a point thats brought up here in many threads and women/couples strongly object to it, conveniently she had a vid to back up the case she never persued and I'll say it again, news reporting and media reporting is all about selling newspapers and twisting the truth to do it, don't believe everything you see or read, if you disagree fine but I'm not influenced by it. Oh yes and how come they are allowed to ruin his career as a football player if he is in the eyes of the law innocent?
You're arguing a different case, altogether.
He hasn't been found not guilty, the CPS feel they don't have enough evidence, there's a big difference.
The video is not a sex video, but a recording of herself showing injuries.
The voice recording is not a sex recording, but what seems to be one of abuse and coercion.
What you describe is a different subject altogether.
Refusing to be influenced by social media is very different to acknowledging the postings and recognising they are not what you assume.
Again, he has not been find innocent.
For someone that suggests and expresses they have absolutely no knowledge of this, what is your argument about?
He has been let go and the woman who accused him has slept with him and has had his child, shes dropped the charges, maybe it was role play nobody here knows its all being taken out of context, maybe she's easily bruised but a woman who is being abused would not drop the charges and would not be allowed to drop charges by the legal system unless she said he was innocent, so thats some influence wouldn't you say?
You've listened to media footage that has persuaded you otherwise but hes been let go to continue his life and career which is in tatters because of the ridiculous system we have of apportioning blame before verdict, if he has abused her more fool her for being talked round, i hope she hasn't for her sake but he is innocent whichever way you look at it, for now anyways
Seriously, do the slightest bit of research in this, you are talking about a different case.
The scenario your head is nothing alike the actual situation.
I've paid very little attention to social media accounts on this, and rarely watch the news, but I paid a little attention to it.
Seriously, what you are assuming is not what has been posted, or reported.
You're arguing a totally different situation.
Again, being released is not a declaration of innocence, only a lack of evidence.
He's neither guilty, nor innocent in the eyes is the law, released only because of the situation since, they getting back together.
She won't be the first to falsely accuse, if that's the case, and he won't be the first to manipulate his way (possibly using fame and fortune) back into good books to avoid prosecution, if is the case.
Seriously though, take a little look yourself instead of assuming the situation, because your assumptions in what's happened are all wrong.
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"Hes innocent in the eyes of the law, whether he's innocent only she and him know, my argument is why would she have his child if he was guilty? The video sharing is a point thats brought up here in many threads and women/couples strongly object to it, conveniently she had a vid to back up the case she never persued and I'll say it again, news reporting and media reporting is all about selling newspapers and twisting the truth to do it, don't believe everything you see or read, if you disagree fine but I'm not influenced by it. Oh yes and how come they are allowed to ruin his career as a football player if he is in the eyes of the law innocent?
You're arguing a different case, altogether.
He hasn't been found not guilty, the CPS feel they don't have enough evidence, there's a big difference.
The video is not a sex video, but a recording of herself showing injuries.
The voice recording is not a sex recording, but what seems to be one of abuse and coercion.
What you describe is a different subject altogether.
Refusing to be influenced by social media is very different to acknowledging the postings and recognising they are not what you assume.
Again, he has not been find innocent.
For someone that suggests and expresses they have absolutely no knowledge of this, what is your argument about?
He has been let go and the woman who accused him has slept with him and has had his child, shes dropped the charges, maybe it was role play nobody here knows its all being taken out of context, maybe she's easily bruised but a woman who is being abused would not drop the charges and would not be allowed to drop charges by the legal system unless she said he was innocent, so thats some influence wouldn't you say?
You've listened to media footage that has persuaded you otherwise but hes been let go to continue his life and career which is in tatters because of the ridiculous system we have of apportioning blame before verdict, if he has abused her more fool her for being talked round, i hope she hasn't for her sake but he is innocent whichever way you look at it, for now anyways
Seriously, do the slightest bit of research in this, you are talking about a different case.
The scenario your head is nothing alike the actual situation.
I've paid very little attention to social media accounts on this, and rarely watch the news, but I paid a little attention to it.
Seriously, what you are assuming is not what has been posted, or reported.
You're arguing a totally different situation.
Again, being released is not a declaration of innocence, only a lack of evidence.
He's neither guilty, nor innocent in the eyes is the law, released only because of the situation since, they getting back together.
She won't be the first to falsely accuse, if that's the case, and he won't be the first to manipulate his way (possibly using fame and fortune) back into good books to avoid prosecution, if is the case.
Seriously though, take a little look yourself instead of assuming the situation, because your assumptions in what's happened are all wrong.
So you are assuming he's guilty even though the person accusing him has withdrawn her evidence.
You clearly don’t have a clue about how an abusive and coercive relationship works, dear me "But i know you are innocent until proven guilty was he proven guilty? | |||
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"Ultimately he has not been found guilty of any crime therefore he should play for Man Utd. If he was not a footballer he would still be allowed to work and any company that sacked him on the basis of an accusation would find themselves paying out a lot of money in compensation. If Man Utd do decide that he can no longer play for them they will have to pay up his contract which if reports are to be believe they really can't afford at present. He will have made a large amount of money and be allowed to play somewhere else so not exactly going to be a punishment which some on here are screaming for." I'm wondering if they'll send him out on loan to a team in another country, and eventually sell it allow the contract to reach an end. It's a tough situation really, and though you make a point, it isn't as black and white as that as a professional footballer. | |||
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"Ultimately he has not been found guilty of any crime therefore he should play for Man Utd. If he was not a footballer he would still be allowed to work and any company that sacked him on the basis of an accusation would find themselves paying out a lot of money in compensation. If Man Utd do decide that he can no longer play for them they will have to pay up his contract which if reports are to be believe they really can't afford at present. He will have made a large amount of money and be allowed to play somewhere else so not exactly going to be a punishment which some on here are screaming for." Nope, his actions have brought the club into disrepute which should be grounds for termination of his contract (which I assume should be in most professional contracts). This is simply a case of United not having the balls to act upon it. | |||
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"Ultimately he has not been found guilty of any crime therefore he should play for Man Utd. If he was not a footballer he would still be allowed to work and any company that sacked him on the basis of an accusation would find themselves paying out a lot of money in compensation. I agree but it should be. The media go on about how they are just normal kids who happen to be good at football and then expect them to uphold gold plated standards. In my opinion they should be treated like anybody else football is their work and the football club is there employer. The money might be a bit different but the standards should not. If Man Utd do decide that he can no longer play for them they will have to pay up his contract which if reports are to be believe they really can't afford at present. He will have made a large amount of money and be allowed to play somewhere else so not exactly going to be a punishment which some on here are screaming for. I'm wondering if they'll send him out on loan to a team in another country, and eventually sell it allow the contract to reach an end. It's a tough situation really, and though you make a point, it isn't as black and white as that as a professional footballer. " | |||
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"With the amount of money in Saudi Arabia Pro League right now I actually think that might be the best place for Man Utd to cash in on him." He's a comodity now but is he guilty | |||
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"With the amount of money in Saudi Arabia Pro League right now I actually think that might be the best place for Man Utd to cash in on him.He's a comodity now but is he guilty ". In the eyes of the law he is innocent but going by social media and even this thread and the previous thread it seems the majority find him guilty | |||
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"Hes innocent in the eyes of the law, whether he's innocent only she and him know, my argument is why would she have his child if he was guilty? The video sharing is a point thats brought up here in many threads and women/couples strongly object to it, conveniently she had a vid to back up the case she never persued and I'll say it again, news reporting and media reporting is all about selling newspapers and twisting the truth to do it, don't believe everything you see or read, if you disagree fine but I'm not influenced by it. Oh yes and how come they are allowed to ruin his career as a football player if he is in the eyes of the law innocent?
You're arguing a different case, altogether.
He hasn't been found not guilty, the CPS feel they don't have enough evidence, there's a big difference.
The video is not a sex video, but a recording of herself showing injuries.
The voice recording is not a sex recording, but what seems to be one of abuse and coercion.
What you describe is a different subject altogether.
Refusing to be influenced by social media is very different to acknowledging the postings and recognising they are not what you assume.
Again, he has not been find innocent.
For someone that suggests and expresses they have absolutely no knowledge of this, what is your argument about?
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"With the amount of money in Saudi Arabia Pro League right now I actually think that might be the best place for Man Utd to cash in on him.He's a comodity now but is he guilty . In the eyes of the law he is innocent but going by social media and even this thread and the previous thread it seems the majority find him guilty "You're all legal eagles, experts at condemnation, i think the underlying issue here is the football club and his non requirement at Manchester Utd, well you all seem to hope he won't be required but maybe he will | |||
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"If he plays again for MU the away fans will destroy him. How you like them apples Mason ! " They really wont. He'll get a bit of stick for a few months then it'll die away. Todays news is tomorrows chip wrapper. | |||
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"He's innocent he has done absolutely zero wrong he should leave utd and have a raise from his next club " Mason??? | |||
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"With the amount of money in Saudi Arabia Pro League right now I actually think that might be the best place for Man Utd to cash in on him.He's a comodity now but is he guilty . In the eyes of the law he is innocent but going by social media and even this thread and the previous thread it seems the majority find him guilty "And after all thats how justice works in this country... Just ask the majority on a sex site... Based on what theyve been told to believe on sociak media. Thats justice.bring back the guillotine. | |||
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"With the amount of money in Saudi Arabia Pro League right now I actually think that might be the best place for Man Utd to cash in on him.He's a comodity now but is he guilty . In the eyes of the law he is innocent but going by social media and even this thread and the previous thread it seems the majority find him guilty
And after all thats how justice works in this country... Just ask the majority on a sex site... Based on what theyve been told to believe on sociak media. Thats justice.bring back the guillotine. "I mean, if that's an option... | |||
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"Hes innocent the woman who accused him is pregnant by him after the fact "Doesn't mean he's innocent by any means | |||
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"With the amount of money in Saudi Arabia Pro League right now I actually think that might be the best place for Man Utd to cash in on him.He's a comodity now but is he guilty . In the eyes of the law he is innocent but going by social media and even this thread and the previous thread it seems the majority find him guilty
And after all thats how justice works in this country... Just ask the majority on a sex site... Based on what theyve been told to believe on sociak media. Thats justice.bring back the guillotine.
I mean, if that's an option...". Perhaps we should bring back the guillotine as long as Harriet Robson agrees to go to court and if she wins off with Mason’s head and goodbye meal ticket for her and her dad. | |||
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"With the amount of money in Saudi Arabia Pro League right now I actually think that might be the best place for Man Utd to cash in on him.He's a comodity now but is he guilty . In the eyes of the law he is innocent but going by social media and even this thread and the previous thread it seems the majority find him guilty
And after all thats how justice works in this country... Just ask the majority on a sex site... Based on what theyve been told to believe on sociak media. Thats justice.bring back the guillotine.
I mean, if that's an option....
Perhaps we should bring back the guillotine as long as Harriet Robson agrees to go to court and if she wins off with Mason’s head and goodbye meal ticket for her and her dad."Fancy putting another record on? Think yours is broken | |||
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"With the amount of money in Saudi Arabia Pro League right now I actually think that might be the best place for Man Utd to cash in on him.He's a comodity now but is he guilty . In the eyes of the law he is innocent but going by social media and even this thread and the previous thread it seems the majority find him guilty
And after all thats how justice works in this country... Just ask the majority on a sex site... Based on what theyve been told to believe on sociak media. Thats justice.bring back the guillotine.
I mean, if that's an option....
Perhaps we should bring back the guillotine as long as Harriet Robson agrees to go to court and if she wins off with Mason’s head and goodbye meal ticket for her and her dad.
Fancy putting another record on? Think yours is broken "Well the mans got a point hasnt he? | |||
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"Hes innocent in the eyes of the law, whether he's innocent only she and him know, my argument is why would she have his child if he was guilty? The video sharing is a point thats brought up here in many threads and women/couples strongly object to it, conveniently she had a vid to back up the case she never persued and I'll say it again, news reporting and media reporting is all about selling newspapers and twisting the truth to do it, don't believe everything you see or read, if you disagree fine but I'm not influenced by it. Oh yes and how come they are allowed to ruin his career as a football player if he is in the eyes of the law innocent?
You're arguing a different case, altogether.
He hasn't been found not guilty, the CPS feel they don't have enough evidence, there's a big difference.
The video is not a sex video, but a recording of herself showing injuries.
The voice recording is not a sex recording, but what seems to be one of abuse and coercion.
What you describe is a different subject altogether.
Refusing to be influenced by social media is very different to acknowledging the postings and recognising they are not what you assume.
Again, he has not been find innocent.
For someone that suggests and expresses they have absolutely no knowledge of this, what is your argument about?
Theres no such thing as being 'found innocent'.
Amazing how many people have so little grasp of basic law"I'm sure you can understand the context. It's surprising how many people have so little grasp of basic communications. Point is, there has been no decision either way. (Shrugs) | |||
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"Thoughts? Should he play for utd? Play for anyone? Not touch him with a barge pole? He hasnt been found guilty of anything. Dreadful pressure groups should be told by utd to fuck off. Or he should sue them for restriction of trade. Cant have justice being meted out by social media pressure groups...same type of thing happening with farell just because he's unpopular with some people. Terrible terrible path to go down. You could be next. Jimmy Savile was never found guilty. Would you let him babysit your kids " | |||
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