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"We should still hate the Germans but only because they invented sauerkraut and lederhosen."
Noooooo Funky.... we should embrace their passion for Lederhosen and Oompah bands.....    |
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On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either. |
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either."
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet |
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either.
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet"
Fucking hell. |
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"Ah yes but you have to love German beer"
"Noooooo Funky.... we should embrace their passion for Lederhosen and Oompah bands..... "
Compelling arguments both. I must admit a certain predilection to getting pissed and dancing to oompah.
I need to re-think my hatred, thank you friends for opening my eyes. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I just want to say Angle Mercul Germany boss says we should pay money to help out countries ruined by being in Euro currency
Ha dont think so we were clever enough not to join so stuff you |
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either.
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet"
Bang out of order!!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either.
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet
Fucking hell."
Yes it was a 'Fucking Hell' for the jews |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either.
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet"
Nope. Hitler operated at a time of severe depression and under those circumstances the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems. Hitler chose to blame the Jews for Germany's economic problems which masked his true aim of a totalitarian regime that would last for a thousand years. He was misguided, but certainly no idiot. And millions paid with their lives, not just Jews either.
But hey, it's ok to label me a Hitler fan because I don't agree with your _iews, that's how Hitler managed to do what he did too, but he murdered anyone who didn't agree with him. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either.
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet
Nope. Hitler operated at a time of severe depression and under those circumstances the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems. Hitler chose to blame the Jews for Germany's economic problems which masked his true aim of a totalitarian regime that would last for a thousand years. He was misguided, but certainly no idiot. And millions paid with their lives, not just Jews either.
But hey, it's ok to label me a Hitler fan because I don't agree with your _iews, that's how Hitler managed to do what he did too, but he murdered anyone who didn't agree with him."
no i agree with that he was nasty just don't know how you can say Germans are not to balme for ww2 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ah yes but you have to love German beer
Noooooo Funky.... we should embrace their passion for Lederhosen and Oompah bands.....
Compelling arguments both. I must admit a certain predilection to getting pissed and dancing to oompah.
I need to re-think my hatred, thank you friends for opening my eyes."
No probs groovy primate old chum,
…I suspected your original expression of disdain for Lederhosen might have just been an understandable reaction to the dreadful news unlicensed Bavarian mustachios are soon to be outlawed in public….!.
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By (user no longer on site)
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No ! I spent 6 years over there , I think they learnt there lesson after there country was reduced to a pile of rubble then cut in half for 45years , I don't think we should hold the whole German race responsible for what the Nazis did , but then again we should never forget either.
50 million dead across the world entire nations wrecked, god help us if it ever happens again .
Yet we look to Syria and Iran and think it wouldn't take much to plunge us over the edge .
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no i agree with that he was nasty just don't know how you can say Germans are not to balme for ww2"
In simple terms, the German economy had been fucked by the US, GB and France after WWI and Hitler, the Austrian, saw an angry public who wanted a strong leader to make Germany great again, and took advantage of a situation created from outside Germany. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Nope. Hitler operated at a time of severe depression and under those circumstances the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems.
Hitler chose to blame the Jews for Germany's economic problems which masked his true aim ......"
Whilst Cameron and Osborne chose to blame the previous government.
Like you said 'the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems'. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no i agree with that he was nasty just don't know how you can say Germans are not to balme for ww2"
Because they didn't. A select few Germans decided to invade Poland and under the Nazi regime you did as you were ordered or you were shot. The majority of Germans had no idea that places like Auschswitz existed and were appalled when the atrocities were uncovered at the close of WW2. I suspect some knew the Jews weren't being packed off to holiday camps but most of them were oblivious to it, so good was the Nazi propaganda machine. You are condemning an entire nation of people for the actions of a very small minority of them. The average German soldier didn't even know why he was shooting Allied soldiers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Nope. Hitler operated at a time of severe depression and under those circumstances the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems.
Hitler chose to blame the Jews for Germany's economic problems which masked his true aim ......
Whilst Cameron and Osborne chose to blame the previous government.
Like you said 'the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems'. "
Nice spin, you never miss an opportunity do you. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Nope. Hitler operated at a time of severe depression and under those circumstances the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems.
Hitler chose to blame the Jews for Germany's economic problems which masked his true aim ......
Whilst Cameron and Osborne chose to blame the previous government.
Like you said 'the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems'.
Nice spin, you never miss an opportunity do you. "
If you leave an open goal ........... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Surely it's never the whole country that's to blame. I'm sure the general population didn't want to send their family off to war and risk being killed any more than ours did.
Oh god ..I really was just going to ignore the trolls today..epic fail and it's only 11.15 !! |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Because they didn't. A select few Germans decided to invade Poland and under the Nazi regime you did as you were ordered or you were shot. "
A bit like Afghanistan and Iraq?
"The majority of Germans had no idea that places like Auschswitz existed and were appalled when the atrocities were uncovered at the close of WW2."
A bit like Gitmo?
"I suspect some knew the Jews weren't being packed off to holiday camps but most of them were oblivious to it, so good was the Nazi propaganda machine. .."
A bit like Abu Ghraibh? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no i agree with that he was nasty just don't know how you can say Germans are not to balme for ww2
In simple terms, the German economy had been fucked by the US, GB and France after WWI and Hitler, the Austrian, saw an angry public who wanted a strong leader to make Germany great again, and took advantage of a situation created from outside Germany."
WW1 wasn't directly responsible for the Great Depression of 1929. That started on Wall Street and spread globally very quickly. Hitler's rise to power began in 1933 when the world markets were still in negative growth and it was the perfect opportunity to flex Germany's muscles and carve out an empire for itself. He underestimated the UK's resolve to resist him and, had he known we would run him to the wire, I suspect he might not have invaded Russia and focussed Germany's attentions on us instead. That was his fatal mistake. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Surely it's never the whole country that's to blame. I'm sure the general population didn't want to send their family off to war and risk being killed any more than ours did.
Oh god ..I really was just going to ignore the trolls today..epic fail and it's only 11.15 !!"
Every single last German who has ever lived or ever will is to blame for the events of World War II. And everyone who has or has ever had a moustache but no beard.
So there. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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WW1 wasn't directly responsible for the Great Depression of 1929. That started on Wall Street and spread globally very quickly. ..........."
Like the financial crash of 2007-2008.
Wall Street, not Downing Street. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"WW1 wasn't directly responsible for the Great Depression of 1929. That started on Wall Street and spread globally very quickly. Hitler's rise to power began in 1933 when the world markets were still in negative growth and it was the perfect opportunity to flex Germany's muscles and carve out an empire for itself. He underestimated the UK's resolve to resist him and, had he known we would run him to the wire, I suspect he might not have invaded Russia and focussed Germany's attentions on us instead. That was his fatal mistake."
I wanted to keep it simple for Dave. |
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By *arentvxxTV/TS
over a year ago
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If all all these so called Dictators,politicians and whoever actually fought the wars they start themselves,I think they would soon go back to good old diplomacy.
Wars are started mainly by a privaleged few,and fought by unprivaleged many who die not knowing what they are really fighting for.xxx |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"WW1 wasn't directly responsible for the Great Depression of 1929. That started on Wall Street and spread globally very quickly. Hitler's rise to power began in 1933 when the world markets were still in negative growth and it was the perfect opportunity to flex Germany's muscles and carve out an empire for itself. He underestimated the UK's resolve to resist him and, had he known we would run him to the wire, I suspect he might not have invaded Russia and focussed Germany's attentions on us instead. That was his fatal mistake.
I wanted to keep it simple for Dave."
If those pesky Commies hadn't made a stand at Leningrad, things would have been very different. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"If all all these so called Dictators,politicians and whoever actually fought the wars they start themselves,I think they would soon go back to good old diplomacy.
Wars are started mainly by a privaleged few,and fought by unprivaleged many who die not knowing what they are really fighting for.xxx"
Those who give the orders are seldom the ones to die. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Because they didn't. A select few Germans decided to invade Poland and under the Nazi regime you did as you were ordered or you were shot.
A bit like Afghanistan and Iraq?"
What??? Are you suggesting that British soldiers faced a firing squad if they didn't go to Iraq/Afghanistan?
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The majority of Germans had no idea that places like Auschswitz existed and were appalled when the atrocities were uncovered at the close of WW2.
A bit like Gitmo?
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Guantanamo Bay is well known to the American populace. I think most Americans know their govt involves itself in unsavoury practices too. But then so does our secret security services.
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I suspect some knew the Jews weren't being packed off to holiday camps but most of them were oblivious to it, so good was the Nazi propaganda machine. ..
A bit like Abu Ghraibh?"
I guess you're referring to the torture of Iraqis by British soldiers. Yes, they were wrong to do that, and they are now in jail for it. It was by no means common practice by the British Military and certainly not rife amongst squaddies. Having said that, I know full well that on the ground, when officer's eyes aren't looking, atrocities are committed by young men with guns from all armies everywhere they exist. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Because they didn't. A select few Germans decided to invade Poland and under the Nazi regime you did as you were ordered or you were shot.
A bit like Afghanistan and Iraq?
What??? Are you suggesting that British soldiers faced a firing squad if they didn't go to Iraq/Afghanistan?
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It might be worth checking QR&R on that one. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Should we still hate the Germans for starting 2 world wars?
No i just hate them for putting towels on the sunbeds when you are on holiday and then they stay empty all day!  "
Steal their towels and take them back to your hotel room. Then go back poolside. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"How come when you two get on a thread it turns into who is the biggest tosser in politics?
He started it Miss.  "
So I saw.....but maybe that should say he started it this time
You both could do with a politics site that you can battle it out between you  |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"How come when you two get on a thread it turns into who is the biggest tosser in politics? "
Hmmmm. Biggest tosser in politics. Cameron or Osborne? Close call.
Onnyhow. How can you have a thread about the causes of the Great War and WWII without it being political? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either.
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet
Nope. Hitler operated at a time of severe depression and under those circumstances the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems. Hitler chose to blame the Jews for Germany's economic problems which masked his true aim of a totalitarian regime that would last for a thousand years. He was misguided, but certainly no idiot. And millions paid with their lives, not just Jews either.
But hey, it's ok to label me a Hitler fan because I don't agree with your _iews, that's how Hitler managed to do what he did too, but he murdered anyone who didn't agree with him.
no i agree with that he was nasty just don't know how you can say Germans are not to balme for ww2"
It was actually Britain & France who declared war on Germany! |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"How come when you two get on a thread it turns into who is the biggest tosser in politics?
Hmmmm. Biggest tosser in politics. Cameron or Osborne? Close call.
Onnyhow. How can you have a thread about the causes of the Great War and WWII without it being political?"
You know exactly what I am talking about so I won't answer that question.
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"How come when you two get on a thread it turns into who is the biggest tosser in politics?
Hmmmm. Biggest tosser in politics. Cameron or Osborne? Close call.
Onnyhow. How can you have a thread about the causes of the Great War and WWII without it being political?
You know exactly what I am talking about so I won't answer that question.
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That's OK. It was rhetorical. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How come when you two get on a thread it turns into who is the biggest tosser in politics?
He started it Miss.
So I saw.....but maybe that should say he started it this time
You both could do with a politics site that you can battle it out between you "
God no, it'd be invaded by students with attitude! That's far worse. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sometimes you’ve gotta wonder if some people here are really responding to one-another’s posts or simply moving onto the next thing they want to say…!! "
And the Germans always beat us at penalties! |
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"Should we still hate the Germans for starting 2 world wars?
No i just hate them for putting towels on the sunbeds when you are on holiday and then they stay empty all day!
Steal their towels and take them back to your hotel room. Then go back poolside."
I do know a certain person that threw them in the pool |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Should we still hate the Germans for starting 2 world wars?
No i just hate them for putting towels on the sunbeds when you are on holiday and then they stay empty all day!
Steal their towels and take them back to your hotel room. Then go back poolside.
I do know a certain person that threw them in the pool "
You now know two then, as I did that once too.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Should we still hate the Germans for starting 2 world wars?
No i just hate them for putting towels on the sunbeds when you are on holiday and then they stay empty all day!
Steal their towels and take them back to your hotel room. Then go back poolside.
I do know a certain person that threw them in the pool "
Admirable, but that way you don't get to keep the towels. |
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"Should we still hate the Germans for starting 2 world wars?
No i just hate them for putting towels on the sunbeds when you are on holiday and then they stay empty all day!
Steal their towels and take them back to your hotel room. Then go back poolside.
I do know a certain person that threw them in the pool
Admirable, but that way you don't get to keep the towels."
What would I do with a Bayern Munich FC towel anyway? |
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Because they didn't. A select few Germans decided to invade Poland and under the Nazi regime you did as you were ordered or you were shot.
A bit like Afghanistan and Iraq?
What??? Are you suggesting that British soldiers faced a firing squad if they didn't go to Iraq/Afghanistan?
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It might be worth checking QR&R on that one."
Really?
I sincerely hope you are not a serving/ex soldier, letting someone with such a poor grasp on reality loose with a loaded weapon would be a huge mistake! |
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No we shouldnt, how can you blame people of today for something that was done over 60 years ago. Thats like saying its my fault my fault for what my ancestors did. Theres enough extremists in the world as it is |
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"Should we still hate the Germans for starting 2 world wars?
No i just hate them for putting towels on the sunbeds when you are on holiday and then they stay empty all day!
Steal their towels and take them back to your hotel room. Then go back poolside.
I do know a certain person that threw them in the pool
Admirable, but that way you don't get to keep the towels.
What would I do with a Bayern Munich FC towel anyway? "
Exactly i'm more into Rugby than footie |
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Because they didn't. A select few Germans decided to invade Poland and under the Nazi regime you did as you were ordered or you were shot.
A bit like Afghanistan and Iraq?
What??? Are you suggesting that British soldiers faced a firing squad if they didn't go to Iraq/Afghanistan?
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It might be worth checking QR&R on that one."
I think it may have the same force in law as the right to drive sheep across London Bridge if you are a Knight of the Realm. Exists in regulations, not in practice. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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It might be worth checking QR&R on that one.
Really?
I sincerely hope you are not a serving/ex soldier, letting someone with such a poor grasp on reality loose with a loaded weapon would be a huge mistake!"
Soldier? Perish the thought. |
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By *nnyMan
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I think it may have the same force in law as the right to drive sheep across London Bridge if you are a Knight of the Realm. Exists in regulations, not in practice."
Stuff happens in practice even if not covered in regulation. |
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It might be worth checking QR&R on that one.
Really?
I sincerely hope you are not a serving/ex soldier, letting someone with such a poor grasp on reality loose with a loaded weapon would be a huge mistake!
Soldier? Perish the thought."
So.... if you have no real experience or knowledge about something, best to steer well clear! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've still got in in for William the Bastard
Bloody Romans, coming over here and building walls everywhere...."
I keep wondering when they're coming back to finish the A1 |
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By *yronMan
over a year ago
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either.
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet
Nope. Hitler operated at a time of severe depression and under those circumstances the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems. Hitler chose to blame the Jews for Germany's economic problems which masked his true aim of a totalitarian regime that would last for a thousand years. He was misguided, but certainly no idiot. And millions paid with their lives, not just Jews either.
But hey, it's ok to label me a Hitler fan because I don't agree with your _iews, that's how Hitler managed to do what he did too, but he murdered anyone who didn't agree with him.
no i agree with that he was nasty just don't know how you can say Germans are not to balme for ww2"
Lots of people are to blame for WWII, Neville Chamberlain gave away Czechsolvakia even though the Czech army could have wiped the floor with the Germans as it was a lot larger and more advanced. Stalin is also to blame for the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact that he and Hitler wanted that allowed them (in their eyes) to carve up parts of Europe, despite those other parts being nations in their own right.
Hitler was itching for a rematch for the First World War, but when you look at the terms of the Treaty of Versailles (which many British people opposed), you can see how the conditions were created that someone like Hitler would exploit. |
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By *yronMan
over a year ago
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"I've still got in in for William the Bastard
Bloody Romans, coming over here and building walls everywhere....
I keep wondering when they're coming back to finish the A1"
Apparently we're to look to our own defenses these days.
**Looks out of the window**
Right, that seems to be working. |
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either.
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet
Nope. Hitler operated at a time of severe depression and under those circumstances the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems. Hitler chose to blame the Jews for Germany's economic problems which masked his true aim of a totalitarian regime that would last for a thousand years. He was misguided, but certainly no idiot. And millions paid with their lives, not just Jews either.
But hey, it's ok to label me a Hitler fan because I don't agree with your _iews, that's how Hitler managed to do what he did too, but he murdered anyone who didn't agree with him.
no i agree with that he was nasty just don't know how you can say Germans are not to balme for ww2
Lots of people are to blame for WWII, Neville Chamberlain gave away Czechsolvakia even though the Czech army could have wiped the floor with the Germans as it was a lot larger and more advanced. Stalin is also to blame for the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact that he and Hitler wanted that allowed them (in their eyes) to carve up parts of Europe, despite those other parts being nations in their own right.
Hitler was itching for a rematch for the First World War, but when you look at the terms of the Treaty of Versailles (which many British people opposed), you can see how the conditions were created that someone like Hitler would exploit."
Neville Chamberlain was CinC of the Czech Army?
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By *yronMan
over a year ago
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either.
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet
Nope. Hitler operated at a time of severe depression and under those circumstances the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems. Hitler chose to blame the Jews for Germany's economic problems which masked his true aim of a totalitarian regime that would last for a thousand years. He was misguided, but certainly no idiot. And millions paid with their lives, not just Jews either.
But hey, it's ok to label me a Hitler fan because I don't agree with your _iews, that's how Hitler managed to do what he did too, but he murdered anyone who didn't agree with him.
no i agree with that he was nasty just don't know how you can say Germans are not to balme for ww2
Lots of people are to blame for WWII, Neville Chamberlain gave away Czechsolvakia even though the Czech army could have wiped the floor with the Germans as it was a lot larger and more advanced. Stalin is also to blame for the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact that he and Hitler wanted that allowed them (in their eyes) to carve up parts of Europe, despite those other parts being nations in their own right.
Hitler was itching for a rematch for the First World War, but when you look at the terms of the Treaty of Versailles (which many British people opposed), you can see how the conditions were created that someone like Hitler would exploit.
Neville Chamberlain was CinC of the Czech Army?
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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It might be worth checking QR&R on that one.
Really?
I sincerely hope you are not a serving/ex soldier, letting someone with such a poor grasp on reality loose with a loaded weapon would be a huge mistake!
Soldier? Perish the thought.
So.... if you have no real experience or knowledge about something, best to steer well clear!"
Some branches of the Armed Forces have been around a lot longer than the Army. |
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either.
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet
Nope. Hitler operated at a time of severe depression and under those circumstances the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems. Hitler chose to blame the Jews for Germany's economic problems which masked his true aim of a totalitarian regime that would last for a thousand years. He was misguided, but certainly no idiot. And millions paid with their lives, not just Jews either.
But hey, it's ok to label me a Hitler fan because I don't agree with your _iews, that's how Hitler managed to do what he did too, but he murdered anyone who didn't agree with him.
no i agree with that he was nasty just don't know how you can say Germans are not to balme for ww2
Lots of people are to blame for WWII, Neville Chamberlain gave away Czechsolvakia even though the Czech army could have wiped the floor with the Germans as it was a lot larger and more advanced. Stalin is also to blame for the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact that he and Hitler wanted that allowed them (in their eyes) to carve up parts of Europe, despite those other parts being nations in their own right.
Hitler was itching for a rematch for the First World War, but when you look at the terms of the Treaty of Versailles (which many British people opposed), you can see how the conditions were created that someone like Hitler would exploit.
Neville Chamberlain was CinC of the Czech Army?
No he gave away Czechslovakia to the Germans, or rather a large enough part of it to render it unable to fight independently."
So he was the Czech PM then? If the Czech Army were so powerful why didn't they say..you know what? fuck this,take that adolf.
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Why do we hate them we beat them
On a serious note some folk and i do not mean on here still have the little englander attitude which is not just outdated but ridiculous in my _iew. |
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"Should we still hate the Germans for starting 2 world wars?"
'Starting'??? May one suggest a reading of ones history books.... For example... WE (Good old Great Britain and it's Empire, as was) declared war on Nazi Germany on 3rd Sept 1939.
When did they declare war on Gt Britain..????
Never, is the answer.
So..... who started that one then... ? |
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By *yronMan
over a year ago
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"Hitler was Austrian,x"
Yes, but he was Chancellor of Germany.
And getting back to the OP... No, the people of Germany shouldn't be hated for something that happened long before the majority of them were born: The people who committed the atrocities (that are alive) or even those who just fought are all in the 80's and 90's, they are a tiny minority of what is now a very forward-thinking nation that has made it abundantly clear that discrimination on any grounds isn't welcome in their country. |
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"Why do we hate them we beat them
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'Cos they're foreigners. That what some Brits do."
Which is all the more ridiculous as we're all flippin foreigners in this country!! |
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By *yronMan
over a year ago
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"On 28 June 1914, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, heir presumptive to the Austro-Hungarian throne, and his wife, Sophie, Duchess of Hohenberg, were shot dead in Sarajevo, by Gavrilo Princip, one of a group of six Bosnian Serb assassins coordinated by Danilo Ilic.
Not quite the Germans fault was it, it was a Bosnian who triggered WW1.
WW2 was triggered by Germany invading Poland. We could have kept out of it and let Russia deal with the problem on it's borders but hey, it was a good enough reason for a scrap so we went for it.
Not quite just Germany's fault either.
You must have simpathy with hilter for the way the jews behaved i bet
Nope. Hitler operated at a time of severe depression and under those circumstances the majority of people will believe anything that they're told if it means blaming someone else for their problems. Hitler chose to blame the Jews for Germany's economic problems which masked his true aim of a totalitarian regime that would last for a thousand years. He was misguided, but certainly no idiot. And millions paid with their lives, not just Jews either.
But hey, it's ok to label me a Hitler fan because I don't agree with your _iews, that's how Hitler managed to do what he did too, but he murdered anyone who didn't agree with him.
no i agree with that he was nasty just don't know how you can say Germans are not to balme for ww2
Lots of people are to blame for WWII, Neville Chamberlain gave away Czechsolvakia even though the Czech army could have wiped the floor with the Germans as it was a lot larger and more advanced. Stalin is also to blame for the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact that he and Hitler wanted that allowed them (in their eyes) to carve up parts of Europe, despite those other parts being nations in their own right.
Hitler was itching for a rematch for the First World War, but when you look at the terms of the Treaty of Versailles (which many British people opposed), you can see how the conditions were created that someone like Hitler would exploit.
Neville Chamberlain was CinC of the Czech Army?
No he gave away Czechslovakia to the Germans, or rather a large enough part of it to render it unable to fight independently.
So he was the Czech PM then? If the Czech Army were so powerful why didn't they say..you know what? fuck this,take that adolf.
instead of rolling over for a dull Englishman?"
Because Britain then was like the US is today - very powerful and the Czechs knew they needed allies. The Russians were cosy with Hitler and it wasn't the whole country that was being given away, but one third of it. The Czech government went along with it, despite protests from within their own country. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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"Why do we hate them we beat them
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'Cos they're foreigners. That what some Brits do.
Which is all the more ridiculous as we're all flippin foreigners in this country!!"
Not all of us. Just 'cos Phil's a Greek and his Missus is mostly mainland European doesn't mean we're 'all flippin foreigners'. |
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"Why do we hate them we beat them
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'Cos they're foreigners. That what some Brits do.
Which is all the more ridiculous as we're all flippin foreigners in this country!!
Not all of us. Just 'cos Phil's a Greek and his Missus is mostly mainland European doesn't mean we're 'all flippin foreigners'."
Hate to break it to you dude, but if you is "Scottish" there's a good chance you is actually of Irish or Scandinavian decent! |
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It might be worth checking QR&R on that one.
Really?
I sincerely hope you are not a serving/ex soldier, letting someone with such a poor grasp on reality loose with a loaded weapon would be a huge mistake!
Soldier? Perish the thought.
So.... if you have no real experience or knowledge about something, best to steer well clear!
Some branches of the Armed Forces have been around a lot longer than the Army."
So, being in the Navy qualifies you to comment about combat?
Thats like saying that being an Air Stewardess qualifies you to talk about flying a plane ffs!
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over a year ago
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So, being in the Navy qualifies you to comment about combat?
Thats like saying that being an Air Stewardess qualifies you to talk about flying a plane ffs!
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.... and being in the Catering Corps qualifies you for Masterchef??????? |
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So, being in the Navy qualifies you to comment about combat?
Thats like saying that being an Air Stewardess qualifies you to talk about flying a plane ffs!
.... and being in the Catering Corps qualifies you for Masterchef???????"
Nope, in fact the odd one or two couldn't even be called cooks, let alone chefs lol!
Don't see your point though, unless it was just a dig at the Catering Corps? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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You can't stay mad at the germans as someone said they gave us some very fine beers, a nice gateau, someone to win a world cup against (I wont add our only one since then lol), a mad motorcyclist (see youtube) and also the nerburgring track |
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It might be worth checking QR&R on that one.
Really?
I sincerely hope you are not a serving/ex soldier, letting someone with such a poor grasp on reality loose with a loaded weapon would be a huge mistake!
Soldier? Perish the thought.
So.... if you have no real experience or knowledge about something, best to steer well clear!
Some branches of the Armed Forces have been around a lot longer than the Army.
So, being in the Navy qualifies you to comment about combat?
Thats like saying that being an Air Stewardess qualifies you to talk about flying a plane ffs!
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I think the Royal Marines are more than qualified to comment about combat, despite the fact that they are part of the Royal Navy... |
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On topic....no the current generation of Germans can in no way be to blame for the actions of their forefathers...
And trust me on this....The Brits are every bit as bad as the Germans for sunbed hogging, but neither are as bad as the Italians |
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