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 personal preference is sacrosanct )... I suspect that makes me woke.
Mostly though, I'm just busy trying to do better. | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"." "The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead. | |||
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"For the most part I find the discussion of it a distraction from what I'm trying to achieve. More about claiming sides than anything. I try to be aware of the marginalised and minimise my harm to them, to do better, to help those who need it. That, plus the fact that I find most "anti woke" discussion repulsive ( personal preference is sacrosanct )... I suspect that makes me woke.
Mostly though, I'm just busy trying to do better."Nicely put. | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead."The right don’t let anyone have shit. Especially not Black people. | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead."Yeah, you have to read it in context. In some contexts it means aware of marginalisation (particularly racial, although I think the meaning has organically expanded). In other context it seems to be just another insult. I like to substitute "poppyhead" in my head in those contexts. | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead.
The right don’t let anyone have shit. Especially not Black people. "Considering where the term came from I’m surprised they use it so freely. | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead.
Yeah, you have to read it in context.
In some contexts it means aware of marginalisation (particularly racial, although I think the meaning has organically expanded).
In other context it seems to be just another insult. I like to substitute "poppyhead" in my head in those contexts."Basically if you have a slight bit of empathy and care about your fellow human or the planet you’re “woke”. I’m more than happy to be called that. | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead.
Yeah, you have to read it in context.
In some contexts it means aware of marginalisation (particularly racial, although I think the meaning has organically expanded).
In other context it seems to be just another insult. I like to substitute "poppyhead" in my head in those contexts.
Basically if you have a slight bit of empathy and care about your fellow human or the planet you’re “woke”. I’m more than happy to be called that."It's a fucking weird insult though. That and "virtue signalling". Are they telling us they're such bad people that any hint of goodness has them hissing like the Wicked Witch of the West? "Melting. I'm melting" Poppyhead just makes more sense  | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead.
Yeah, you have to read it in context.
In some contexts it means aware of marginalisation (particularly racial, although I think the meaning has organically expanded).
In other context it seems to be just another insult. I like to substitute "poppyhead" in my head in those contexts.
Basically if you have a slight bit of empathy and care about your fellow human or the planet you’re “woke”. I’m more than happy to be called that.
It's a fucking weird insult though. That and "virtue signalling". Are they telling us they're such bad people that any hint of goodness has them hissing like the Wicked Witch of the West? "Melting. I'm melting"
Poppyhead just makes more sense " | |||
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"I'd like to think I'm not a moron and have empathy, so yes?" The first point is up for debate though. | |||
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"If you go with it's original meaning then yes we try to be and hopefully are. The right-wing propaganda machine has just uses the term to mean anything they don't like. Try to get a proper definition out of the people who hate "woke" and they usually flounder. " Words meaning things seems to be another liberal conspiracy | |||
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"Woke as feck. I would quote Kathy Burke but I’m sure everyone is aware…" “They’re calling you ‘woke’ if you call out bad things, basically. If you’re not racist, you’re woke. If you’re not homophobic, oh, you’re woke. Be woke, kids. Be woke. Be wide awake and f***ing call it out.” | |||
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"Actually I am woke (kinda still following what I said above) but I am NOT and never will be an "ally" " Why not an ally? | |||
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"would you consider yourself to be woke or anti woke! and if so why?!? just interested that's all! Ben x" It's a conundrum really. In order to consider yourself to be woke then you have to steal the term from a different group who are supposed to be less privileged than yourselves and thus making you unwoke. It is cultural appropriation from African Americans after all. C | |||
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"Define Woke? " Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism. | |||
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"I believe in equality, feminism, and also free speech. Whatever that makes me." You can't be all of those. C | |||
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"would you consider yourself to be woke or anti woke! and if so why?!? just interested that's all! Ben x" I'm am old fashioned Yorkshire an. Blunt, call a spade a spade, speak my mind and I say it as I see it. So I'm probably the least woke person you could find. | |||
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"Define Woke? Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism." It all a load of political bullshit. | |||
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"would you consider yourself to be woke or anti woke! and if so why?!? just interested that's all! Ben x I'm am old fashioned Yorkshire an. Blunt, call a spade a spade, speak my mind and I say it as I see it. So I'm probably the least woke person you could find. " So basically you don't know what woke means | |||
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"Define Woke? Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism. It all a load of political bullshit." How is highlighting social inequalities "political"? | |||
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"Can those who are anti-woke (if they're brave enough) just tell us? " They're usually pretty clear, although maybe not in so many words | |||
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"would you consider yourself to be woke or anti woke! and if so why?!? just interested that's all! Ben x It's a conundrum really. In order to consider yourself to be woke then you have to steal the term from a different group who are supposed to be less privileged than yourselves and thus making you unwoke. It is cultural appropriation from African Americans after all. C" This is the perfect summarisation of the issue . | |||
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"It's a conundrum really. In order to consider yourself to be woke then you have to steal the term from a different group who are supposed to be less privileged than yourselves and thus making you unwoke. It is cultural appropriation from African Americans after all. C" I don't see it as that deep. I mean... most language is made up of 'terms' created by people. English is a huge mishmash of terms from Latin, French and other languages - if that were the case we'd all walk around not communicating at all. Not great reasoning tbh... | |||
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"Can those who are anti-woke (if they're brave enough) just tell us? I usually like to work these things out myself, but anyone who wants to out themselves as a conscious redneck(contradiction in terms I know) then it may save some of us the bother of working out who to be repulsed by and we can avoid all your future anti-human/planet postings. Ta very muchly. " Surely you are not with the Redneck derogatory term. Can't say you are "Woke" classifying certain people with dog whistling. Try better next time. Just be human. | |||
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"I hate being woken up" You are not alone. | |||
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"I hate being woken up You are not alone." Especially rudely lol | |||
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"I hate being woken up" Same | |||
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"I hate being woken up You are not alone." Michael Jackson? | |||
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"I hate being woken up You are not alone. Michael Jackson?" I am here with you | |||
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"I hate being woken up You are not alone. Michael Jackson? I am here with you" Though we're far apart, you're always in my heart P | |||
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"Can you not truely believe in feminism (equality) if you're not a female? " Even within feminism there are different branches - true feminism (I believe) is total equality across the sexes. Equal pay, equal opportunities, equal representation etc. no discrimination against women. I think the majority agree. However there at as some feminists who appear to believe that in order to be a feminist, men should be pushed down. Below women. IMO that’s not what feminism is. That’s no better or worse than a masculinist. | |||
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"I hate being woken up You are not alone. Michael Jackson? I am here with you"  MJ. | |||
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"To say you're "anti woke" literally means you're against fairness, empathy and you are racially or socially prejudice..." Absolutely both Woke here | |||
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"Can you not truely believe in feminism (equality) if you're not a female? Even within feminism there are different branches - true feminism (I believe) is total equality across the sexes. Equal pay, equal opportunities, equal representation etc. no discrimination against women. I think the majority agree. However there at as some feminists who appear to believe that in order to be a feminist, men should be pushed down. Below women. IMO that’s not what feminism is. That’s no better or worse than a masculinist." But... there exists extremes in any branch of ideology (see religion) that deviate from the base belief. That tranche of feminism is no different and isn't actually feminism (just labelled as though it is). | |||
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"would you consider yourself to be woke or anti woke! and if so why?!? just interested that's all! Ben x I'm am old fashioned Yorkshire an. Blunt, call a spade a spade, speak my mind and I say it as I see it. So I'm probably the least woke person you could find. So basically you don't know what woke means" Oh I think he does. He calls a spade a spade after all. | |||
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"Can those who are anti-woke (if they're brave enough) just tell us? I usually like to work these things out myself, but anyone who wants to out themselves as a conscious redneck(contradiction in terms I know) then it may save some of us the bother of working out who to be repulsed by and we can avoid all your future anti-human/planet postings. Ta very muchly. Surely you are not with the Redneck derogatory term. Can't say you are "Woke" classifying certain people with dog whistling. Try better next time. Just be human. "Dog whistling is a racist phrase used by racists. You could argue I'm being so myself if you say I'm associating rednecks with white people who aren't very bright/enlightened educationally or socially. I was however using it in a non race prejudiced way for people who aren't very bright and who are hostile to the social/economic/political issues which ironically usually prejudice against them and limit their life opportunities also. But I accept your summation. Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade though and burn in hell for the good cause. In a world destroyed by the climate change created by big corporations and enabled by rampant consumerism and the blithe selfishness of the sleepwalking (and I suppose, by extension, therefore,conventionally anti woke) ignorant. Anyway. ULEZs. Whatcha think? Or on a cross surrounded by people with white hoods. Who don't realise they're wearing white hoods. | |||
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"Can those who are anti-woke (if they're brave enough) just tell us? I usually like to work these things out myself, but anyone who wants to out themselves as a conscious redneck(contradiction in terms I know) then it may save some of us the bother of working out who to be repulsed by and we can avoid all your future anti-human/planet postings. Ta very muchly. Surely you are not with the Redneck derogatory term. Can't say you are "Woke" classifying certain people with dog whistling. Try better next time. Just be human.
Dog whistling is a racist phrase used by racists.
You could argue I'm being so myself if you say I'm associating rednecks with white people who aren't very bright/enlightened educationally or socially.
I was however using it in a non race prejudiced way for people who aren't very bright and who are hostile to the social/economic/political issues which ironically usually prejudice against them and limit their life opportunities also.
But I accept your summation. Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade though and burn in hell for the good cause.
In a world destroyed by the climate change created by big corporations and enabled by rampant consumerism and the blithe selfishness of the sleepwalking (and I suppose, by extension, therefore,conventionally anti woke) ignorant.
Anyway. ULEZs. Whatcha think?
Or on a cross surrounded by people with white hoods.
Who don't realise they're wearing white hoods.
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"To say you're "anti woke" literally means you're against fairness, empathy and you are racially or socially prejudice..." In your opinion. | |||
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"To say you're "anti woke" literally means you're against fairness, empathy and you are racially or socially prejudice... In your opinion." By definition, actually. | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"." "Thank you!! So many folks throw this word around but don't have a clue what it means!! | |||
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"To say you're "anti woke" literally means you're against fairness, empathy and you are racially or socially prejudice... In your opinion. By definition, actually. " Ummm no, as there is no well established and accepted definition of the term. For example, the understanding of the term has shifted over the last couple of years. All my life I have been viewed as very liberal and left wing in my outlook, but in no way do I subscribe to being woke. | |||
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"To say you're "anti woke" literally means you're against fairness, empathy and you are racially or socially prejudice... In your opinion. By definition, actually. Ummm no, as there is no well established and accepted definition of the term. For example, the understanding of the term has shifted over the last couple of years. All my life I have been viewed as very liberal and left wing in my outlook, but in no way do I subscribe to being woke." Shifted by what/who? And for what purpose? It hasn't... it's used as a political tool now. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities." But that isn't the meaning of the word. Just because MSM uses the word wrongly doesn't mean we all should abandon it. | |||
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" But that isn't the meaning of the word. Just because MSM uses the word wrongly doesn't mean we all should abandon it." Language is fluid and evolves -- the original meaning of woke is irrelevant as the original meaning of gay or queer. | |||
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" But that isn't the meaning of the word. Just because MSM uses the word wrongly doesn't mean we all should abandon it. Language is fluid and evolves -- the original meaning of woke is irrelevant as the original meaning of gay or queer." Is it. Well that's me told. | |||
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" But that isn't the meaning of the word. Just because MSM uses the word wrongly doesn't mean we all should abandon it. Language is fluid and evolves -- the original meaning of woke is irrelevant as the original meaning of gay or queer." You're so close to understanding. Think about the agenda behind changing the words for a specific purpose. So close. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. But that isn't the meaning of the word. Just because MSM uses the word wrongly doesn't mean we all should abandon it." Language and meanings of words adapt, they always have done. The problem we have here is you have 2 ends of the spectrum but one end won't see it adapting and are desperate to stick to the 'original definition', only its not the original definition because that would be 'past of wake'. | |||
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" But that isn't the meaning of the word. Just because MSM uses the word wrongly doesn't mean we all should abandon it. Language is fluid and evolves -- the original meaning of woke is irrelevant as the original meaning of gay or queer. You're so close to understanding. Think about the agenda behind changing the words for a specific purpose. So close." Using the word 'agenda' suggests some kind of conspiracy. The world ain't that complicated. | |||
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"To say you're "anti woke" literally means you're against fairness, empathy and you are racially or socially prejudice... In your opinion. By definition, actually. " No, not by definition. The OED defines it as "?aware of social and political issues, especially racism" and the Cambridge dictionary defines its meaning as "aware, especially of social problems such as racism and inequality". Note the part where it says "aware", not "against". Being "aware" doesn't mean you're for or against, it literally just means that you're aware. In short, it's a fairly meaningless description of somebody, its definition having been hijacked by both extremes of the political spectrum. Like many words, the definition changes depending on who's using it. It's just another way to cause division. Bess x | |||
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"would you consider yourself to be woke or anti woke! and if so why?!? just interested that's all! Ben x" Neither. I hate the idea of being pigeonholed like that, or the idea of having to sign up to a complete belief system or being seen as the enemy. | |||
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"To say you're "anti woke" literally means you're against fairness, empathy and you are racially or socially prejudice... In your opinion. By definition, actually. No, not by definition. The OED defines it as "?aware of social and political issues, especially racism" and the Cambridge dictionary defines its meaning as "aware, especially of social problems such as racism and inequality". Note the part where it says "aware", not "against". Being "aware" doesn't mean you're for or against, it literally just means that you're aware. In short, it's a fairly meaningless description of somebody, its definition having been hijacked by both extremes of the political spectrum. Like many words, the definition changes depending on who's using it. It's just another way to cause division. Bess x " Totally agree here | |||
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" But that isn't the meaning of the word. Just because MSM uses the word wrongly doesn't mean we all should abandon it. Language is fluid and evolves -- the original meaning of woke is irrelevant as the original meaning of gay or queer. You're so close to understanding. Think about the agenda behind changing the words for a specific purpose. So close. Using the word 'agenda' suggests some kind of conspiracy. The world ain't that complicated." True. The world isn’t controlled by a hidden force that is trying to force us into changing the use of the word “woke”. | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead.
The right don’t let anyone have shit. Especially not Black people. "Poor little love, a bitter generalisation if ever i,ve seen one. We are all basically the same people mostly separated by education & circumstance & not all black people are equal just like not all white people. Feeling a victim keeps you a victim. | |||
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"would you consider yourself to be woke or anti woke! and if so why?!? just interested that's all! Ben x" Are you op? I’m Just interested. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities." If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead.
The right don’t let anyone have shit. Especially not Black people.
Poor little love, a bitter generalisation if ever i,ve seen one.
We are all basically the same people mostly separated by education & circumstance & not all black people are equal just like not all white people.
Feeling a victim keeps you a victim."Nah. Society makes you a victim. Which is what pisses people off who are systematically disenfranchised. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct?" Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough." ... Melting. Melting! (See above ) | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough. ... Melting. Melting! (See above )"lol | |||
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"To say you're "anti woke" literally means you're against fairness, empathy and you are racially or socially prejudice... In your opinion. By definition, actually. No, not by definition. The OED defines it as "?aware of social and political issues, especially racism" and the Cambridge dictionary defines its meaning as "aware, especially of social problems such as racism and inequality". Note the part where it says "aware", not "against". Being "aware" doesn't mean you're for or against, it literally just means that you're aware. In short, it's a fairly meaningless description of somebody, its definition having been hijacked by both extremes of the political spectrum. Like many words, the definition changes depending on who's using it. It's just another way to cause division. Bess x " | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough." By virtue signalling you mean having kind ethics? Yeah. Anyway, you could answer the question. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough. ... Melting. Melting! (See above )lol"She meant you were burning I think.. Oh well. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough. By virtue signalling you mean having kind ethics? Yeah. Anyway, you could answer the question." Is crying virtue signalling a form of vice signalling? | |||
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"Can those who are anti-woke (if they're brave enough) just tell us? I usually like to work these things out myself, but anyone who wants to out themselves as a conscious redneck(contradiction in terms I know) then it may save some of us the bother of working out who to be repulsed by and we can avoid all your future anti-human/planet postings. Ta very muchly. Surely you are not with the Redneck derogatory term. Can't say you are "Woke" classifying certain people with dog whistling. Try better next time. Just be human.
Dog whistling is a racist phrase used by racists.
You could argue I'm being so myself if you say I'm associating rednecks with white people who aren't very bright/enlightened educationally or socially.
I was however using it in a non race prejudiced way for people who aren't very bright and who are hostile to the social/economic/political issues which ironically usually prejudice against them and limit their life opportunities also.
But I accept your summation. Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade though and burn in hell for the good cause.
In a world destroyed by the climate change created by big corporations and enabled by rampant consumerism and the blithe selfishness of the sleepwalking (and I suppose, by extension, therefore,conventionally anti woke) ignorant.
Anyway. ULEZs. Whatcha think?
Or on a cross surrounded by people with white hoods.
Who don't realise they're wearing white hoods.
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"Sorry to say, I use to be more excepting. But the more I have it pushed into my face the less tolerance I have for people pushing their own agenda on me. Personally I think they have caused more problems and more resentment. Each to their own, do what you want but leave me out of it. " Is people not wanting to deal with racism and hate speech "pushing an agenda" ? | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough. By virtue signalling you mean having kind ethics? Yeah. Anyway, you could answer the question. Is crying virtue signalling a form of vice signalling?" That old semantic shift thing again someone else alluded to above. Virtue is to be good,aye? Therefore if it irritates someone who doesn't like said person revealing how they strive to be a good person with empathy for others less fortunate then because they're a nihilist they lov it as an 'insult'. While nit having the intelligence to realise that they're using a forum where people can air their views to try to shit down their views.becuae they think they're a libertarian and need to combat a socialist threat to their existence. Not realising that they're doing the dirty work of people who want them to be servile, alive, and furthering their own ends and make them not give a shit about others.whike also (the layers of irony are terrifying) not giving a shit about them either. Or something. Just give them a gun and let them put it out between themselves. Oh. Shit.. Better make them believe they need to have gun.no! A right to a gun. All those pesky natives might try to take their land back. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough. By virtue signalling you mean having kind ethics? Yeah. Anyway, you could answer the question. Is crying virtue signalling a form of vice signalling? That old semantic shift thing again someone else alluded to above. Virtue is to be good,aye? Therefore if it irritates someone who doesn't like said person revealing how they strive to be a good person with empathy for others less fortunate then because they're a nihilist they lov it as an 'insult'. While nit having the intelligence to realise that they're using a forum where people can air their views to try to shit down their views.becuae they think they're a libertarian and need to combat a socialist threat to their existence. Not realising that they're doing the dirty work of people who want them to be servile, alive, and furthering their own ends and make them not give a shit about others.whike also (the layers of irony are terrifying) not giving a shit about them either. Or something. Just give them a gun and let them put it out between themselves. Oh. Shit.. Better make them believe they need to have gun.no! A right to a gun. All those pesky natives might try to take their land back." Mmm. It's funny to me how many of the people (not singling this person out) who scream virtue signalling go around tooting their own horn. They're amazing in so many ways, blah blah ad nauseum, but god forbid anyone talk about having empathy for others. They might come out in a rash! | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough. By virtue signalling you mean having kind ethics? Yeah. Anyway, you could answer the question. Is crying virtue signalling a form of vice signalling? That old semantic shift thing again someone else alluded to above. Virtue is to be good,aye? Therefore if it irritates someone who doesn't like said person revealing how they strive to be a good person with empathy for others less fortunate then because they're a nihilist they lov it as an 'insult'. While nit having the intelligence to realise that they're using a forum where people can air their views to try to shit down their views.becuae they think they're a libertarian and need to combat a socialist threat to their existence. Not realising that they're doing the dirty work of people who want them to be servile, alive, and furthering their own ends and make them not give a shit about others.whike also (the layers of irony are terrifying) not giving a shit about them either. Or something. Just give them a gun and let them put it out between themselves. Oh. Shit.. Better make them believe they need to have gun.no! A right to a gun. All those pesky natives might try to take their land back. Mmm. It's funny to me how many of the people (not singling this person out) who scream virtue signalling go around tooting their own horn. They're amazing in so many ways, blah blah ad nauseum, but god forbid anyone talk about having empathy for others. They might come out in a rash!" They're signalling that they don't like humans who value positive things like just being good to others and valuing fairness. Which means touching upon people who aren't treated fairly. Can't get my head around how that is an issue. Can't get my head around how they don't realise/don't care that they look like an uncaring human by attacking people who advocate for fairness in th overwhelming onslaught on our rights nd lives. Sorry for the typos. Rain has a tendency to bugger up the keypad. I'll leave the anti woke brigade to metaphorically throttle anyone concerned for others while not realising they're also throttling themselves. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough. ... Melting. Melting! (See above )lol
She meant you were burning I think..
Oh well."Nope I am perfectly fine. It's just funny how you claim being " Woke" but yet segregate other people to your views. So I guess the rednecks I hang out with who they accept everyone all races with degrees and businesses are uneducated . But to you you like the derogatory term to suit your agenda. Classic virtue signaling on your part. Just a observation. You would lose your mind when all of us of different races greet one another the names we call one another you would have a meltdown. It's the love and respect for one another. Yet you the one segregating to make a political point. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough. By virtue signalling you mean having kind ethics? Yeah. Anyway, you could answer the question. Is crying virtue signalling a form of vice signalling? That old semantic shift thing again someone else alluded to above. Virtue is to be good,aye? Therefore if it irritates someone who doesn't like said person revealing how they strive to be a good person with empathy for others less fortunate then because they're a nihilist they lov it as an 'insult'. While nit having the intelligence to realise that they're using a forum where people can air their views to try to shit down their views.becuae they think they're a libertarian and need to combat a socialist threat to their existence. Not realising that they're doing the dirty work of people who want them to be servile, alive, and furthering their own ends and make them not give a shit about others.whike also (the layers of irony are terrifying) not giving a shit about them either. Or something. Just give them a gun and let them put it out between themselves. Oh. Shit.. Better make them believe they need to have gun.no! A right to a gun. All those pesky natives might try to take their land back. Mmm. It's funny to me how many of the people (not singling this person out) who scream virtue signalling go around tooting their own horn. They're amazing in so many ways, blah blah ad nauseum, but god forbid anyone talk about having empathy for others. They might come out in a rash! They're signalling that they don't like humans who value positive things like just being good to others and valuing fairness. Which means touching upon people who aren't treated fairly. Can't get my head around how that is an issue. Can't get my head around how they don't realise/don't care that they look like an uncaring human by attacking people who advocate for fairness in th overwhelming onslaught on our rights nd lives. Sorry for the typos. Rain has a tendency to bugger up the keypad. I'll leave the anti woke brigade to metaphorically throttle anyone concerned for others while not realising they're also throttling themselves." Seems a bloody weird thing to admit. Let alone be proud of. Echo chambers are a trip. | |||
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"Awake not woke is what i'd describe myself Isn't woke just the idea that everyone should only do the things you, yourself like and ban everything else? " Thanks for the reply. I dunno what it is, I just carry on being me. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough. By virtue signalling you mean having kind ethics? Yeah. Anyway, you could answer the question. Is crying virtue signalling a form of vice signalling? That old semantic shift thing again someone else alluded to above. Virtue is to be good,aye? Therefore if it irritates someone who doesn't like said person revealing how they strive to be a good person with empathy for others less fortunate then because they're a nihilist they lov it as an 'insult'. While nit having the intelligence to realise that they're using a forum where people can air their views to try to shit down their views.becuae they think they're a libertarian and need to combat a socialist threat to their existence. Not realising that they're doing the dirty work of people who want them to be servile, alive, and furthering their own ends and make them not give a shit about others.whike also (the layers of irony are terrifying) not giving a shit about them either. Or something. Just give them a gun and let them put it out between themselves. Oh. Shit.. Better make them believe they need to have gun.no! A right to a gun. All those pesky natives might try to take their land back. Mmm. It's funny to me how many of the people (not singling this person out) who scream virtue signalling go around tooting their own horn. They're amazing in so many ways, blah blah ad nauseum, but god forbid anyone talk about having empathy for others. They might come out in a rash! They're signalling that they don't like humans who value positive things like just being good to others and valuing fairness. Which means touching upon people who aren't treated fairly. Can't get my head around how that is an issue. Can't get my head around how they don't realise/don't care that they look like an uncaring human by attacking people who advocate for fairness in th overwhelming onslaught on our rights nd lives. Sorry for the typos. Rain has a tendency to bugger up the keypad. I'll leave the anti woke brigade to metaphorically throttle anyone concerned for others while not realising they're also throttling themselves. Seems a bloody weird thing to admit. Let alone be proud of. Echo chambers are a trip." Chamber it's more like the Grand Canyon.  | |||
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"To say you're "anti woke" literally means you're against fairness, empathy and you are racially or socially prejudice..." Might it not mean your against imposing beliefs onto others ? | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead."Thats a dickhead position to take ! | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead.
Yeah, you have to read it in context.
In some contexts it means aware of marginalisation (particularly racial, although I think the meaning has organically expanded).
In other context it seems to be just another insult. I like to substitute "poppyhead" in my head in those contexts.
Basically if you have a slight bit of empathy and care about your fellow human or the planet you’re “woke”. I’m more than happy to be called that.
It's a fucking weird insult though. That and "virtue signalling". Are they telling us they're such bad people that any hint of goodness has them hissing like the Wicked Witch of the West? "Melting. I'm melting"
Poppyhead just makes more sense "I think the reason there is issue with the term woke is because of the modern definition. It seems that no walk means to be tolerable of everything. Oddly enough some extremists on the woke side are intolerant of people who won't tolerate everything... 
Thats kinda fucked up ...
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"I believe in equality, feminism, and also free speech. Whatever that makes me. You can't be all of those. C" Why ? | |||
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"Can those who are anti-woke (if they're brave enough) just tell us? I usually like to work these things out myself, but anyone who wants to out themselves as a conscious redneck(contradiction in terms I know) then it may save some of us the bother of working out who to be repulsed by and we can avoid all your future anti-human/planet postings. Ta very muchly. " Thats a highly intolerable statement... I'd i.agine you may put your had up ? | |||
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"I hate being woken up You are not alone. Michael Jackson? I am here with you" If you fall apart I will stick like glue | |||
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"Liberal but accepting of personal responsibility. The term Woke is now so devalued by self absorbed idiots that it is meaningless. " Nicely put | |||
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"To say you're "anti woke" literally means you're against fairness, empathy and you are racially or socially prejudice... In your opinion. By definition, actually. " Only if there is a clear definition... which there isn't. Also one the person delivering the words can know the true meaning behind them , therefore clarification is needed rather than i formation. | |||
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" But that isn't the meaning of the word. Just because MSM uses the word wrongly doesn't mean we all should abandon it. Language is fluid and evolves -- the original meaning of woke is irrelevant as the original meaning of gay or queer. You're so close to understanding. Think about the agenda behind changing the words for a specific purpose. So close." Surly being patronizing isn't woke either? See it in modern society has many definitions. | |||
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"To say you're "anti woke" literally means you're against fairness, empathy and you are racially or socially prejudice... In your opinion. By definition, actually. No, not by definition. The OED defines it as "?aware of social and political issues, especially racism" and the Cambridge dictionary defines its meaning as "aware, especially of social problems such as racism and inequality". Note the part where it says "aware", not "against". Being "aware" doesn't mean you're for or against, it literally just means that you're aware. In short, it's a fairly meaningless description of somebody, its definition having been hijacked by both extremes of the political spectrum. Like many words, the definition changes depending on who's using it. It's just another way to cause division. Bess x Totally agree here "I like this view | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead.
Yeah, you have to read it in context.
In some contexts it means aware of marginalisation (particularly racial, although I think the meaning has organically expanded).
In other context it seems to be just another insult. I like to substitute "poppyhead" in my head in those contexts.
Basically if you have a slight bit of empathy and care about your fellow human or the planet you’re “woke”. I’m more than happy to be called that.
It's a fucking weird insult though. That and "virtue signalling". Are they telling us they're such bad people that any hint of goodness has them hissing like the Wicked Witch of the West? "Melting. I'm melting"
Poppyhead just makes more sense
I think the reason there is issue with the term woke is because of the modern definition. It seems that no walk means to be tolerable of everything.
Oddly enough some extremists on the woke side are intolerant of people who won't tolerate everything...
Thats kinda fucked up ...
I honestly think this woke thing actually let's people think you should be rewarded for being empathetic and caring , when imo you should always want to be this way ... as best you can . "I think it's interesting to cast it that way. Irrelevant to me, but maybe telling something about those who do cast it that way. Along with the seeming allergy to anyone talking about being empathetic. They're amazing, pay attention to them, but scorn anyone who mentions giving a shit about broader society I also think the tolerance paradox isn't that complicated and is merely a ploy at this point. | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct?" Then you remove the reality in many cases ... sure thats pointless | |||
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"To me being 'woke' implies an entitled form of extreme political correctness. Like, calling everyone out for everything without seeing nuance or your own hypocrisy -- it seems to apply largely to delusional gender rights activists; the types who demand the politicised use of preferred pronouns and non-existent but fashionable gender identities. If you remove the subjective use of entitled amd assuming that everyone who is politically correct forces it down the necks of others and merely live their lives being non offensive yet enlightened, what exactly do you think is wrong with being politically correct? Virtue signal much ? Keep going it's entertaining enough. By virtue signalling you mean having kind ethics? Yeah. Anyway, you could answer the question. Is crying virtue signalling a form of vice signalling? That old semantic shift thing again someone else alluded to above. Virtue is to be good,aye? Therefore if it irritates someone who doesn't like said person revealing how they strive to be a good person with empathy for others less fortunate then because they're a nihilist they lov it as an 'insult'. While nit having the intelligence to realise that they're using a forum where people can air their views to try to shit down their views.becuae they think they're a libertarian and need to combat a socialist threat to their existence. Not realising that they're doing the dirty work of people who want them to be servile, alive, and furthering their own ends and make them not give a shit about others.whike also (the layers of irony are terrifying) not giving a shit about them either. Or something. Just give them a gun and let them put it out between themselves. Oh. Shit.. Better make them believe they need to have gun.no! A right to a gun. All those pesky natives might try to take their land back. Mmm. It's funny to me how many of the people (not singling this person out) who scream virtue signalling go around tooting their own horn. They're amazing in so many ways, blah blah ad nauseum, but god forbid anyone talk about having empathy for others. They might come out in a rash! They're signalling that they don't like humans who value positive things like just being good to others and valuing fairness. Which means touching upon people who aren't treated fairly. Can't get my head around how that is an issue. Can't get my head around how they don't realise/don't care that they look like an uncaring human by attacking people who advocate for fairness in th overwhelming onslaught on our rights nd lives. Sorry for the typos. Rain has a tendency to bugger up the keypad. I'll leave the anti woke brigade to metaphorically throttle anyone concerned for others while not realising they're also throttling themselves." Sounds like you really care about how people see you ? | |||
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"Well on that note my hillbilly / redneck ass with a pharmacy degree is going to a BBQ with a melting pot of people. Oops that's right to some we should be segregated. Enjoy your evening everyone." And you enjoy your ... wish I was there. | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead.
Yeah, you have to read it in context.
In some contexts it means aware of marginalisation (particularly racial, although I think the meaning has organically expanded).
In other context it seems to be just another insult. I like to substitute "poppyhead" in my head in those contexts.
Basically if you have a slight bit of empathy and care about your fellow human or the planet you’re “woke”. I’m more than happy to be called that.
It's a fucking weird insult though. That and "virtue signalling". Are they telling us they're such bad people that any hint of goodness has them hissing like the Wicked Witch of the West? "Melting. I'm melting"
Poppyhead just makes more sense
I think the reason there is issue with the term woke is because of the modern definition. It seems that no walk means to be tolerable of everything.
Oddly enough some extremists on the woke side are intolerant of people who won't tolerate everything...
Thats kinda fucked up ...
I honestly think this woke thing actually let's people think you should be rewarded for being empathetic and caring , when imo you should always want to be this way ... as best you can .
I think it's interesting to cast it that way. Irrelevant to me, but maybe telling something about those who do cast it that way. Along with the seeming allergy to anyone talking about being empathetic. They're amazing, pay attention to them, but scorn anyone who mentions giving a shit about broader society
I also think the tolerance paradox isn't that complicated and is merely a ploy at this point. "Maybe 2 sheltered or something but I honestly don't know of people who scorn others for saying they care ? | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead.
Yeah, you have to read it in context.
In some contexts it means aware of marginalisation (particularly racial, although I think the meaning has organically expanded).
In other context it seems to be just another insult. I like to substitute "poppyhead" in my head in those contexts.
Basically if you have a slight bit of empathy and care about your fellow human or the planet you’re “woke”. I’m more than happy to be called that.
It's a fucking weird insult though. That and "virtue signalling". Are they telling us they're such bad people that any hint of goodness has them hissing like the Wicked Witch of the West? "Melting. I'm melting"
Poppyhead just makes more sense
I think the reason there is issue with the term woke is because of the modern definition. It seems that no walk means to be tolerable of everything.
Oddly enough some extremists on the woke side are intolerant of people who won't tolerate everything...
Thats kinda fucked up ...
I honestly think this woke thing actually let's people think you should be rewarded for being empathetic and caring , when imo you should always want to be this way ... as best you can .
I think it's interesting to cast it that way. Irrelevant to me, but maybe telling something about those who do cast it that way. Along with the seeming allergy to anyone talking about being empathetic. They're amazing, pay attention to them, but scorn anyone who mentions giving a shit about broader society
I also think the tolerance paradox isn't that complicated and is merely a ploy at this point.
Maybe 2 sheltered or something but I honestly don't know of people who scorn others for saying they care ? "Yes, I suspect you are. Every underwear filling cry of virtue signalling | |||
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"I don't think some people actually know what the word means "Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination"."
The right have hijacked it and now it just means not a dickhead.
Yeah, you have to read it in context.
In some contexts it means aware of marginalisation (particularly racial, although I think the meaning has organically expanded).
In other context it seems to be just another insult. I like to substitute "poppyhead" in my head in those contexts.
Basically if you have a slight bit of empathy and care about your fellow human or the planet you’re “woke”. I’m more than happy to be called that.
It's a fucking weird insult though. That and "virtue signalling". Are they telling us they're such bad people that any hint of goodness has them hissing like the Wicked Witch of the West? "Melting. I'm melting"
Poppyhead just makes more sense
I think the reason there is issue with the term woke is because of the modern definition. It seems that no walk means to be tolerable of everything.
Oddly enough some extremists on the woke side are intolerant of people who won't tolerate everything...
Thats kinda fucked up ...
I honestly think this woke thing actually let's people think you should be rewarded for being empathetic and caring , when imo you should always want to be this way ... as best you can .
I think it's interesting to cast it that way. Irrelevant to me, but maybe telling something about those who do cast it that way. Along with the seeming allergy to anyone talking about being empathetic. They're amazing, pay attention to them, but scorn anyone who mentions giving a shit about broader society
I also think the tolerance paradox isn't that complicated and is merely a ploy at this point.
Maybe 2 sheltered or something but I honestly don't know of people who scorn others for saying they care ?
Yes, I suspect you are. Every underwear filling cry of virtue signalling "Wtf dose that mean ? | |||
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"Yes I’m woke and I don’t care that I am; I’m a radical feminist that doesn’t shut up about it and I actively campaign for LGBT+ people, black people (BLM) and other marginalised groups not just because it’s the right thing to do, but because it’s what’s right in my heart. I, as a white woman, am oppressed for being a woman; but my skin colour doesn’t play into it. On the contrary, black women are oppressed for being a woman and for being black; so why wouldn’t I fight against that? I’m supposed to think it’s fair that I’m free while another woman is not? If that makes me woke then so be it. I’m a proud member of the woke community" What are all these oppresions you speak of? | |||
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"Yes I’m woke and I don’t care that I am; I’m a radical feminist that doesn’t shut up about it and I actively campaign for LGBT+ people, black people (BLM) and other marginalised groups not just because it’s the right thing to do, but because it’s what’s right in my heart. I, as a white woman, am oppressed for being a woman; but my skin colour doesn’t play into it. On the contrary, black women are oppressed for being a woman and for being black; so why wouldn’t I fight against that? I’m supposed to think it’s fair that I’m free while another woman is not? If that makes me woke then so be it. I’m a proud member of the woke community" The Audre Lorde quote about not being free while any other woman is unfree even if her shackles are different to her own came to mind reading this. | |||
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"Yes I’m woke and I don’t care that I am; I’m a radical feminist that doesn’t shut up about it and I actively campaign for LGBT+ people, black people (BLM) and other marginalised groups not just because it’s the right thing to do, but because it’s what’s right in my heart. I, as a white woman, am oppressed for being a woman; but my skin colour doesn’t play into it. On the contrary, black women are oppressed for being a woman and for being black; so why wouldn’t I fight against that? I’m supposed to think it’s fair that I’m free while another woman is not? If that makes me woke then so be it. I’m a proud member of the woke community What are all these oppresions you speak of? " Go the office of national statistics. | |||
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"I hate being woken up You are not alone. Michael Jackson? I am here with you Though we're far apart, you're always in my heart P"  | |||
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"People saying ‘language evolves’ to describe what has not been an evolution of language but a clear co-opting of language used originally by a community about their own experience and partly in resistance is so funny. " So much
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"People saying ‘language evolves’ to describe what has not been an evolution of language but a clear co-opting of language used originally by a community about their own experience and partly in resistance is so funny. So much
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"People saying ‘language evolves’ to describe what has not been an evolution of language but a clear co-opting of language used originally by a community about their own experience and partly in resistance is so funny. So much
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"Can those who are anti-woke (if they're brave enough) just tell us? I usually like to work these things out myself, but anyone who wants to out themselves as a conscious redneck(contradiction in terms I know) then it may save some of us the bother of working out who to be repulsed by and we can avoid all your future anti-human/planet postings. Ta very muchly. Thats a highly intolerable statement... I'd i.agine you may put your had up ? "I'm intolerant of fascists,yes. To the point where if they can't see that they're inhuman then they should either be segregated from the rest of society if they can't be changed from perpetuating poison or not be on the planet,yes. | |||
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"We are all basically the same people mostly separated by education & circumstance & not all black people are equal just like not all white people. Feeling a victim keeps you a victim." One of the things I notice with the people slurred as 'woke' is their second-guessing of who is oppressed and who is privileged. Assuming people are victims because of their identity is ridiculous and incorrect and seems comes from middle class academics who have very little experience of the real world. It typically manifests as intersectional politics, which is the biggest crock of far-left nonsense ever. That doesn't mean oppression doesn't happen, but it's a bit more nuanced than student identity politics. Ironically, after the Russian Revolution, many of the pro-communist academics were baffled to find themselves also shipped off to the gulag. | |||
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"Can those who are anti-woke (if they're brave enough) just tell us? I usually like to work these things out myself, but anyone who wants to out themselves as a conscious redneck(contradiction in terms I know) then it may save some of us the bother of working out who to be repulsed by and we can avoid all your future anti-human/planet postings. Ta very muchly. Thats a highly intolerable statement... I'd i.agine you may put your had up ?
I'm intolerant of fascists,yes. To the point where if they can't see that they're inhuman then they should either be segregated from the rest of society if they can't be changed from perpetuating poison or not be on the planet,yes.
"Didn't the fascists segregate people from society and remove from the planet people they didn't agree with? Pot kettle black? Sounds like you are a fascist but don't realise it. Isn't segregating people from society inhuman? Apartheid? Early US racial segregation? Isn't intolerance itself fascist?it's certainly Chinese Communist(Huighur Muslim re education camps),North Korean,Taliban/Isis etc. | |||
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"Yes I’m woke and I don’t care that I am; I’m a radical feminist that doesn’t shut up about it and I actively campaign for LGBT+ people, black people (BLM) and other marginalised groups not just because it’s the right thing to do, but because it’s what’s right in my heart. I, as a white woman, am oppressed for being a woman; but my skin colour doesn’t play into it. On the contrary, black women are oppressed for being a woman and for being black; so why wouldn’t I fight against that? I’m supposed to think it’s fair that I’m free while another woman is not? If that makes me woke then so be it. I’m a proud member of the woke community The Audre Lorde quote about not being free while any other woman is unfree even if her shackles are different to her own came to mind reading this. " Yes! That’s what I’m referencing. A beautiful writer and woman. | |||
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"would you consider yourself to be woke or anti woke! and if so why?!? just interested that's all! Ben x" No idea what woke means but of course someone woke me up | |||
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"Anti woke there has to be some balance ??" Be careful you might get cancelled. | |||
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"Anti woke there has to be some balance ??" No there doesn't. People being good to one another needs no opposition. | |||
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"Not racist, sexist, homophobic but definitely not woke. " Pretty much. T | |||
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"Woke Anti Woke Moderate Extreme Terminology can quickly turn into word salad. Be respectful... I reckon that pretty much covers it. Simplistic I know, but its a good place to start? " Yes. There is a lot of room in between woke or anti woke. Depends on one's definition too. And extremity of one's opinions. T | |||
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"The use of the word has evolved so much into radical left wing that I don't think I am remotely woke in today's society. However, yes, I'm aware/educated in of issues in gender, race and social agendas, and believe in equality regardless of race or gender. " To me that's woke. | |||
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"Being white male, I am no longer allowed to have an opinion. Please let me know when I have done enough self deprecation and grovelling to maybe suggest that I trying to understand what being Woke is? Ps Please also let me know to which account I have to deposit all of the apparent White Privilege I have amassed ?" | |||
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"Can those who are anti-woke (if they're brave enough) just tell us? I usually like to work these things out myself, but anyone who wants to out themselves as a conscious redneck(contradiction in terms I know) then it may save some of us the bother of working out who to be repulsed by and we can avoid all your future anti-human/planet postings. Ta very muchly. Thats a highly intolerable statement... I'd i.agine you may put your had up ?
I'm intolerant of fascists,yes. To the point where if they can't see that they're inhuman then they should either be segregated from the rest of society if they can't be changed from perpetuating poison or not be on the planet,yes.
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"I am neither, but I feel the word has been hijacked of its true meaning." There is only one race, the human race | |||
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"Anti woke there has to be some balance ?? No there doesn't. People being good to one another needs no opposition." So why are so many of said people no good to those they considered anti woke? | |||
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"The use of the word has evolved so much into radical left wing that I don't think I am remotely woke in today's society. However, yes, I'm aware/educated in of issues in gender, race and social agendas, and believe in equality regardless of race or gender. To me that's woke. " The opinion that matters of him is his own | |||
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"Anti woke there has to be some balance ?? No there doesn't. People being good to one another needs no opposition. So why are so many of said people no good to those they considered anti woke? " Probably not fans of people who want to further oppress minorities. | |||
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