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By *ackformore100 OP   Man  over a year ago

Tin town

For discussion. I was just listening to a lady on the radio diacussing alzheimers and banging on about "raising awareness"... And it go me thinking...you can't move for people raising awareness about one thing or another... From the take a knee lot, to the just stop oil lot, the rainbow lot, the cancer and so on..

Everyday i am intercepted at lunch by some well meaning but intrusive clip boarder telling me stuff amd asking for my details in return, door steppers knocking on the door asking if id heard about something or other, celeb challenges raisi g awareness (primarily of tbeir own profile).. Now.. In most cases we are well aware of the issues... What is really needed surely is money and action?

Doesnt most of it come down to they need money not awareness? As bob geldof once said..

"You’ve gotta get on the phone and take the money out of your pocket. Don’t go to the pub tonight, please. Stay in and give us the money. There’s people dying now so gimme the money!"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Awareness yes totally.

The problem with giving the money is how much of the money goes where it’s meant to go?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

Yeah money and action is what's needed. There's an awful lot of 'awareness' that makes people feel so good that they think they don't need to do anything

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West

Actually, a lot of people are not aware of what it means to have Alzheimer's, dementia or a multitude of other things. No amount of money will change people's attitudes and ways of interacting.

Take my father, who has dementia (vascular). I have to constantly advocate for him because people such as opticians, dental nurses, pharmacy assistants and others who SHOULD be properly aware of what dementia is and the impact on people, are ignorant as sin.

Today, we went to an open day on a local farm. I had to push in my wheelchair in a busy but narrow road because ignorant people had entirely blocked the pavement with their cars. Even when asked to move, as I sat near a car blocking the way, the man argued back as to why he shouldn't move. That's pure ignorance. I'd like to have seen HIM get out of his Tesla and propel himself, below bonnet height, into oncoming traffic.

So yes, awareness definitely needs to be raised. Awareness of not being a moron would be an excellent place to start.

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By *cottish guy 555Man  over a year ago

London

Some people are just wankers and a lot of them seem to drive a tesla

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By *atnip make me purrWoman  over a year ago

Reading

I think awareness has its place especially when it comes to things like mental health. Until very recently people hardly talked about menopause even though it happens to most of half of the human race. Now at work we have had seminars on it which is great because its effects can be profound.

Gender identity is another one.

Some things just need money thrown at it? Other things its all about education. I'm profoundly grateful for the people who talk About their experiences with race or disability as I learn so much from them.

TLDR awareness can be good.

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By *llitnilMan  over a year ago

Shirehampton


"Until very recently people hardly talked about menopause even though it happens to most of half of the human race. Now at work we have had seminars on it which is great because its effects can be profound."

You must lead a very different life to me. In my experience, every time you to get a couple of 50 year old women together, there's no topic of conversation other than the menopause.

On the other hand, no one at all talks about the male menopause.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Actually, a lot of people are not aware of what it means to have Alzheimer's, dementia or a multitude of other things. No amount of money will change people's attitudes and ways of interacting.

Take my father, who has dementia (vascular). I have to constantly advocate for him because people such as opticians, dental nurses, pharmacy assistants and others who SHOULD be properly aware of what dementia is and the impact on people, are ignorant as sin.

Today, we went to an open day on a local farm. I had to push in my wheelchair in a busy but narrow road because ignorant people had entirely blocked the pavement with their cars. Even when asked to move, as I sat near a car blocking the way, the man argued back as to why he shouldn't move. That's pure ignorance. I'd like to have seen HIM get out of his Tesla and propel himself, below bonnet height, into oncoming traffic.

So yes, awareness definitely needs to be raised. Awareness of not being a moron would be an excellent place to start. "

You've made some very good points here.

I've learned a lot from you over the last couple of years about wheelchair accessibility and how wheelchair users are treated. I'm very aware of the problems partially sighted people have due to my dad and will notice things other people don't in that respect. I'm acutely aware of the problems the elderly have in accessing certain services especially on line.

There's loads I'm not fully aware of though. I don't think any of us can cover it all

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Until very recently people hardly talked about menopause even though it happens to most of half of the human race. Now at work we have had seminars on it which is great because its effects can be profound.

You must lead a very different life to me. In my experience, every time you to get a couple of 50 year old women together, there's no topic of conversation other than the menopause.

On the other hand, no one at all talks about the male menopause."

That might be because men don't menstruate

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Actually, a lot of people are not aware of what it means to have Alzheimer's, dementia or a multitude of other things. No amount of money will change people's attitudes and ways of interacting.

Take my father, who has dementia (vascular). I have to constantly advocate for him because people such as opticians, dental nurses, pharmacy assistants and others who SHOULD be properly aware of what dementia is and the impact on people, are ignorant as sin.

Today, we went to an open day on a local farm. I had to push in my wheelchair in a busy but narrow road because ignorant people had entirely blocked the pavement with their cars. Even when asked to move, as I sat near a car blocking the way, the man argued back as to why he shouldn't move. That's pure ignorance. I'd like to have seen HIM get out of his Tesla and propel himself, below bonnet height, into oncoming traffic.

So yes, awareness definitely needs to be raised. Awareness of not being a moron would be an excellent place to start. "

Teaching people to be decent human beings would be better..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Until very recently people hardly talked about menopause even though it happens to most of half of the human race. Now at work we have had seminars on it which is great because its effects can be profound.

You must lead a very different life to me. In my experience, every time you to get a couple of 50 year old women together, there's no topic of conversation other than the menopause.

On the other hand, no one at all talks about the male menopause."

Did your ovaries dry up?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Alzheimer's Is such a horrible thing

It takes its toll on not just the person that’s going through it but they loved ones also it’s hart brakeing to watch

Someone very close to me had it by the end they didn’t even no who I was it was hart brakeing to say the lest

But even though it was I spent as much time as I could with them as I new the end was close

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By *obilebottomMan  over a year ago

All over


"Actually, a lot of people are not aware of what it means to have Alzheimer's, dementia or a multitude of other things. No amount of money will change people's attitudes and ways of interacting.

Take my father, who has dementia (vascular). I have to constantly advocate for him because people such as opticians, dental nurses, pharmacy assistants and others who SHOULD be properly aware of what dementia is and the impact on people, are ignorant as sin.

Today, we went to an open day on a local farm. I had to push in my wheelchair in a busy but narrow road because ignorant people had entirely blocked the pavement with their cars. Even when asked to move, as I sat near a car blocking the way, the man argued back as to why he shouldn't move. That's pure ignorance. I'd like to have seen HIM get out of his Tesla and propel himself, below bonnet height, into oncoming traffic.

So yes, awareness definitely needs to be raised. Awareness of not being a moron would be an excellent place to start. "

Yes there is a need for more awareness for both visible and invisible disabilities. Sadly though there will still be some very selfish people around. We live in a society where unfortunayely some people can be very unkind to one another and anything 'not perfect' can be viewed as inferior. What happened in recent times with all the negative attitudes towards disabled claimnants and the inhumane assessments they had and continue to endure is a disgrace. All the exaggerated negative publicity and propaganda of few bogus claims has given some people leverage to 'attack', something that probably suits certain politicians and political ideology. If we take a moment a see things from the side of someone who is disabled or vulnerable or need help in any way, perhaps we will be less selfish than we are. Life is unpredictable and I rather be kind towards others as one day I may need them to be so towards me

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By *llitnilMan  over a year ago

Shirehampton


"Until very recently people hardly talked about menopause even though it happens to most of half of the human race. Now at work we have had seminars on it which is great because its effects can be profound."


"You must lead a very different life to me. In my experience, every time you to get a couple of 50 year old women together, there's no topic of conversation other than the menopause.

On the other hand, no one at all talks about the male menopause."


"That might be because men don't menstruate"

Which rather proves my point, we don't even have a word for it.

Obviously, men don't menstruate, so they can't have a 'menopause', but men do go through a period where their hormones stop being produced, and hormone production can be very jitttery during that time. The effect is very similar to the menopause in women.

But the male menopause is still something that draws giggles and snide comments, as this thread is proving.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman  over a year ago

Reading


"Until very recently people hardly talked about menopause even though it happens to most of half of the human race. Now at work we have had seminars on it which is great because its effects can be profound.

You must lead a very different life to me. In my experience, every time you to get a couple of 50 year old women together, there's no topic of conversation other than the menopause.

On the other hand, no one at all talks about the male menopause."

Tbf I had only heard about it from this forum and how many of the symptoms are similar. Definitely needs to be talked about.

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By *lexm87Man  over a year ago

Various


"Actually, a lot of people are not aware of what it means to have Alzheimer's, dementia or a multitude of other things. No amount of money will change people's attitudes and ways of interacting.

Take my father, who has dementia (vascular). I have to constantly advocate for him because people such as opticians, dental nurses, pharmacy assistants and others who SHOULD be properly aware of what dementia is and the impact on people, are ignorant as sin.

Today, we went to an open day on a local farm. I had to push in my wheelchair in a busy but narrow road because ignorant people had entirely blocked the pavement with their cars. Even when asked to move, as I sat near a car blocking the way, the man argued back as to why he shouldn't move. That's pure ignorance. I'd like to have seen HIM get out of his Tesla and propel himself, below bonnet height, into oncoming traffic.

So yes, awareness definitely needs to be raised. Awareness of not being a moron would be an excellent place to start. "

I hope no footrests, handles or such came into contact with the above chaps peni, sorry, car. Stick a picture of his car reg online and let people know he's a wank.

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By *ellinever70Woman  over a year ago

Ayrshire


"Until very recently people hardly talked about menopause even though it happens to most of half of the human race. Now at work we have had seminars on it which is great because its effects can be profound.

You must lead a very different life to me. In my experience, every time you to get a couple of 50 year old women together, there's no topic of conversation other than the menopause.

On the other hand, no one at all talks about the male menopause."

Is that because it's a really unhelpful term and not actually comparable to menopause?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"Actually, a lot of people are not aware of what it means to have Alzheimer's, dementia or a multitude of other things. No amount of money will change people's attitudes and ways of interacting.

Take my father, who has dementia (vascular). I have to constantly advocate for him because people such as opticians, dental nurses, pharmacy assistants and others who SHOULD be properly aware of what dementia is and the impact on people, are ignorant as sin.

Today, we went to an open day on a local farm. I had to push in my wheelchair in a busy but narrow road because ignorant people had entirely blocked the pavement with their cars. Even when asked to move, as I sat near a car blocking the way, the man argued back as to why he shouldn't move. That's pure ignorance. I'd like to have seen HIM get out of his Tesla and propel himself, below bonnet height, into oncoming traffic.

So yes, awareness definitely needs to be raised. Awareness of not being a moron would be an excellent place to start.

I hope no footrests, handles or such came into contact with the above chaps peni, sorry, car. Stick a picture of his car reg online and let people know he's a wank. "

Couldn't get close enough to bump into it And he remained at the wheel throughout, while I gesticulated and then had to shout through the window. My request to make space on the pavement (politely delivered) was met with an attitude as if I'd asked him to bring me a piece of the moon.

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By *lay 4 your plessureMan  over a year ago

Wigan

The problem with awareness is no matter how much you educate someone about anything, they're never really fully aware of anything until it personally affects them. You can be mindful about about whatever it is, but you'll never fully understand until you or someone you know gives you that 1st hand experience of it.

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By *lexm87Man  over a year ago

Various


"Actually, a lot of people are not aware of what it means to have Alzheimer's, dementia or a multitude of other things. No amount of money will change people's attitudes and ways of interacting.

Take my father, who has dementia (vascular). I have to constantly advocate for him because people such as opticians, dental nurses, pharmacy assistants and others who SHOULD be properly aware of what dementia is and the impact on people, are ignorant as sin.

Today, we went to an open day on a local farm. I had to push in my wheelchair in a busy but narrow road because ignorant people had entirely blocked the pavement with their cars. Even when asked to move, as I sat near a car blocking the way, the man argued back as to why he shouldn't move. That's pure ignorance. I'd like to have seen HIM get out of his Tesla and propel himself, below bonnet height, into oncoming traffic.

So yes, awareness definitely needs to be raised. Awareness of not being a moron would be an excellent place to start.

I hope no footrests, handles or such came into contact with the above chaps peni, sorry, car. Stick a picture of his car reg online and let people know he's a wank.

Couldn't get close enough to bump into it And he remained at the wheel throughout, while I gesticulated and then had to shout through the window. My request to make space on the pavement (politely delivered) was met with an attitude as if I'd asked him to bring me a piece of the moon. "

I hope the rest of your day was better.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"Actually, a lot of people are not aware of what it means to have Alzheimer's, dementia or a multitude of other things. No amount of money will change people's attitudes and ways of interacting.

Take my father, who has dementia (vascular). I have to constantly advocate for him because people such as opticians, dental nurses, pharmacy assistants and others who SHOULD be properly aware of what dementia is and the impact on people, are ignorant as sin.

Today, we went to an open day on a local farm. I had to push in my wheelchair in a busy but narrow road because ignorant people had entirely blocked the pavement with their cars. Even when asked to move, as I sat near a car blocking the way, the man argued back as to why he shouldn't move. That's pure ignorance. I'd like to have seen HIM get out of his Tesla and propel himself, below bonnet height, into oncoming traffic.

So yes, awareness definitely needs to be raised. Awareness of not being a moron would be an excellent place to start.

I hope no footrests, handles or such came into contact with the above chaps peni, sorry, car. Stick a picture of his car reg online and let people know he's a wank.

Couldn't get close enough to bump into it And he remained at the wheel throughout, while I gesticulated and then had to shout through the window. My request to make space on the pavement (politely delivered) was met with an attitude as if I'd asked him to bring me a piece of the moon.

I hope the rest of your day was better. "

It was, thank you.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man  over a year ago

Tin town

I think in many cases more awareness of the disease or the other "causes" is really not needed... And people taking "action" to raise awareness can confuse that with thinking thats all they need to do... "awareness fatigue"...

Another example is climate change.

. Everyone is aware it exists and is happening. We dont need more awareness and doom mongering.. We need to know how to cope better. So awareness becomes... Sign posting to appropriate resources to where help is available. Or specific actions that can be taken to prevent, improve etc peoples lives.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"I think in many cases more awareness of the disease or the other "causes" is really not needed... And people taking "action" to raise awareness can confuse that with thinking thats all they need to do... "awareness fatigue"...

Another example is climate change.

. Everyone is aware it exists and is happening. We dont need more awareness and doom mongering.. We need to know how to cope better. So awareness becomes... Sign posting to appropriate resources to where help is available. Or specific actions that can be taken to prevent, improve etc peoples lives. "

Everyone is aware? Are you sure? No-one seems to have told the deniers.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Until very recently people hardly talked about menopause even though it happens to most of half of the human race. Now at work we have had seminars on it which is great because its effects can be profound.

You must lead a very different life to me. In my experience, every time you to get a couple of 50 year old women together, there's no topic of conversation other than the menopause.

On the other hand, no one at all talks about the male menopause.

That might be because men don't menstruate

Which rather proves my point, we don't even have a word for it.

Obviously, men don't menstruate, so they can't have a 'menopause', but men do go through a period where their hormones stop being produced, and hormone production can be very jitttery during that time. The effect is very similar to the menopause in women.

But the male menopause is still something that draws giggles and snide comments, as this thread is proving."

I thought it was called 'andropause'. I'm not giggling or being snide by saying menopause can only happen to people who have periods though.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man  over a year ago

Tin town


"I think in many cases more awareness of the disease or the other "causes" is really not needed... And people taking "action" to raise awareness can confuse that with thinking thats all they need to do... "awareness fatigue"...

Another example is climate change.

. Everyone is aware it exists and is happening. We dont need more awareness and doom mongering.. We need to know how to cope better. So awareness becomes... Sign posting to appropriate resources to where help is available. Or specific actions that can be taken to prevent, improve etc peoples lives.

Everyone is aware? Are you sure? No-one seems to have told the deniers. "

Ive not seen anyone deny that our climate is in a period of change. Where i think there is disagreement is whether or not our actions can change it and the headline makers calling every drop of rain or every hot day yet more evidence of a man made tragedy....as opposed to it being hot in southern europe in the summer. In either case i think what is needed is meaningful action rather than guilt tripping amd hand wringing

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By *llitnilMan  over a year ago

Shirehampton


"I thought it was called 'andropause'. I'm not giggling or being snide by saying menopause can only happen to people who have periods though."

You may not be, but other people are.

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