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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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.. or is it a case of when you’re gone, that’s it?
I’ve got to admit when I think about our own individual consciousness I wonder where it exactly came from when we’re born.. it kind of frazzles my brain a bit.
What’s your thoughts on it all?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s not for us to know. We’re still spiritually and evolutionarily cavemen. We have a long way to go before we know the answers but there’s is more to this universe than we can possibly imagine. Just like we can’t imagine a colour that we can’t see, it’s not for us to know. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I hope there’s no afterlife. Imagine your loved ones looking down on you when you’re in the house alone, horny af?  "
;-) my only reassurance about that is that they probably understand .. and were exactly the same themselves!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I hope there’s no afterlife. Imagine your loved ones looking down on you when you’re in the house alone, horny af?
;-) my only reassurance about that is that they probably understand .. and were exactly the same themselves!! "
All my deceased loved ones didn’t have access to the hub. |
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"If people truly believed in an afterlife they would be a lot happier about dying!"
My dad does and he genuinely believes he's going to meet up with my mum. He says he didn't know he wasn't alive before he was born and it'll be like going to sleep and that's nothing to be afraid of. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Like I said in my opening post, our own consciousness kind of blows my mind. Our emotions, souls, thoughts, experiences.. just appeared (from nowhere?) when we were born. Then just ceases to exist when we die.
Mind. Blown. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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For me I think.its just a case of the electrics being switched off. The lights go off and it's just darkness. I'm an Atheist and not a very naturally spiritual person. I do not believe in the existence of souls. |
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By *aretobareCouple
over a year ago
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"If people truly believed in an afterlife they would be a lot happier about dying!
My dad does and he genuinely believes he's going to meet up with my mum. He says he didn't know he wasn't alive before he was born and it'll be like going to sleep and that's nothing to be afraid of."
You can see the positivity you have inherited - we just find the attitude generally towards death in Europe very different to Asia and different parts of the world - it would be great if it was more of a celebration of life |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Like I said in my opening post, our own consciousness kind of blows my mind. Our emotions, souls, thoughts, experiences.. just appeared (from nowhere?) when we were born. Then just ceases to exist when we die.
Mind. Blown. "
Look up the collective consciousness |
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"Like I said in my opening post, our own consciousness kind of blows my mind. Our emotions, souls, thoughts, experiences.. just appeared (from nowhere?) when we were born. Then just ceases to exist when we die.
Mind. Blown. "
Some people think we're just a bundle of chemical reactions inside an outer casing others don't. One side will never convince the other |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If people truly believed in an afterlife they would be a lot happier about dying!
My dad does and he genuinely believes he's going to meet up with my mum. He says he didn't know he wasn't alive before he was born and it'll be like going to sleep and that's nothing to be afraid of."
This reminds me of my grandad. He was never a believer but when my grandmother died he started watching Crossing Over with John Edward. It gave him a lot of comfort. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My beliefs are yes there is. I have a strong pull towards believing in reincarnation. I need there to be a reason why we all go through the 'stuff' of life! And my beliefs give me peace in all that life throws at us. |
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"If people truly believed in an afterlife they would be a lot happier about dying!
My dad does and he genuinely believes he's going to meet up with my mum. He says he didn't know he wasn't alive before he was born and it'll be like going to sleep and that's nothing to be afraid of.
You can see the positivity you have inherited - we just find the attitude generally towards death in Europe very different to Asia and different parts of the world - it would be great if it was more of a celebration of life "
I think many of us in Europe and the west in general are afraid to be spiritual. |
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"If people truly believed in an afterlife they would be a lot happier about dying!
My dad does and he genuinely believes he's going to meet up with my mum. He says he didn't know he wasn't alive before he was born and it'll be like going to sleep and that's nothing to be afraid of.
This reminds me of my grandad. He was never a believer but when my grandmother died he started watching Crossing Over with John Edward. It gave him a lot of comfort."
My dad is a simple (in a good way)man with a strong faith. He just never questions his belief. |
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".. or is it a case of when you’re gone, that’s it?
I’ve got to admit when I think about our own individual consciousness I wonder where it exactly came from when we’re born.. it kind of frazzles my brain a bit.
What’s your thoughts on it all? "
I quite like the idea of reincarnation. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My mum past away a few years ago and I know If she could give me a sign she was still around she would. I don’t believe anything happens when you die, you’re just gone. I think we hold out hope that there’s an after life to make us a feel a little better about loved ones who have past away and there’s nothing wrong with that, I just don’t believe it myself. |
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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago
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People always ask where we go when we die but where were we before we were born? I personally believe in the universal consciousness and I like that it's one of the few things left we can't prove or disprove, adds a but of mystery to life |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I watched One Strange Rock and it made me understand the returning to the universe belief. I'd always thought it a bit fanciful but watching that made it clear for me. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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I guess the more important question is how does your answer affect the life you know you do have.
What believe is our consciousness and creativity can do things no other living thing can do and that it’s occurred only once in billions of years on a planet with perfect conditions to create life. Drake equation now suggests it’s highly unlikely to exist anywhere else in the universe. So we are pretty special ! But does that mean our souls are immortal ? |
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"Absolutely not. What do you remember before your birth? Nothing. It will be the same once you're a rotting corpse and food for insects."
I don't remember anything from like 0-5yo, does it mean I didn't exist then? I don't think our bodies breaking down to physical elements excludes the potentiality of before/afterlife 
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"Absolutely not. What do you remember before your birth? Nothing. It will be the same once you're a rotting corpse and food for insects.
I don't remember anything from like 0-5yo, does it mean I didn't exist then? I don't think our bodies breaking down to physical elements excludes the potentiality of before/afterlife
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Well there is no "Before life" that would just consist of existing in your old man's ballbag. Using the excuse of "I don't remember anything from 0-5" is such a weak argument. Well no you won't remember much from that time because you spent it crying and shitting yourself as an undeveloped infant. The billions of deceased humans that have never, not once, come back from the afterlife is probably concrete enough to know an afterlife is codswallop. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't know about afterlife, I kinda think there probably isn't..
My dad's been dead for 3 years now. A few months ago I had a dream where he spoke to me, the voice and words were distinctly his, it felt real. Weird. |
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"I watched One Strange Rock and it made me understand the returning to the universe belief. I'd always thought it a bit fanciful but watching that made it clear for me."
Watching it now. Just listening to Will Smiths is enough. |
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"Absolutely not. What do you remember before your birth? Nothing. It will be the same once you're a rotting corpse and food for insects.
I don't remember anything from like 0-5yo, does it mean I didn't exist then? I don't think our bodies breaking down to physical elements excludes the potentiality of before/afterlife
Well there is no "Before life" that would just consist of existing in your old man's ballbag. Using the excuse of "I don't remember anything from 0-5" is such a weak argument. Well no you won't remember much from that time because you spent it crying and shitting yourself as an undeveloped infant. The billions of deceased humans that have never, not once, come back from the afterlife is probably concrete enough to know an afterlife is codswallop."
Why is before life only in your Dad's ball bag? Is the male gamete the only one required for new life? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Instead of saying: 'I think this' or: 'my opinion is that'. Why not research it so that you 'know'?
...Or would that make too much sense for you?
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Um, I'd rather not research the afterlife to 'know'. I'd be dead. That makes a whole lot of sense to me  |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"Absolutely not. What do you remember before your birth? Nothing. It will be the same once you're a rotting corpse and food for insects."
You might want to check your science. It’s been shown that trauma experienced by female grandparents impacts cortisol levels in saliva of their grandchildren. Your egg existed way before you were born just we don’t have the science yet to remember |
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"Instead of saying: 'I think this' or: 'my opinion is that'. Why not research it so that you 'know'?
...Or would that make too much sense for you?
How does one research the afterlife?"
Go there and report back? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I watched One Strange Rock and it made me understand the returning to the universe belief. I'd always thought it a bit fanciful but watching that made it clear for me.
Watching it now. Just listening to Will Smiths is enough."
I loved it, explained things really well. Hope you enjoy  |
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"Instead of saying: 'I think this' or: 'my opinion is that'. Why not research it so that you 'know'?
...Or would that make too much sense for you?
How does one research the afterlife?"
By asking a dead person of course  |
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"Instead of saying: 'I think this' or: 'my opinion is that'. Why not research it so that you 'know'?
...Or would that make too much sense for you?
How does one research the afterlife?
Go there and report back?"
If you don't mind I'll wait a while  |
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"Instead of saying: 'I think this' or: 'my opinion is that'. Why not research it so that you 'know'?
...Or would that make too much sense for you?
How does one research the afterlife?
By asking a dead person of course "
I already did. They said there isn't... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Instead of saying: 'I think this' or: 'my opinion is that'. Why not research it so that you 'know'?
...Or would that make too much sense for you?
Um, I'd rather not research the afterlife to 'know'. I'd be dead. That makes a whole lot of sense to me "
Clueless... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Instead of saying: 'I think this' or: 'my opinion is that'. Why not research it so that you 'know'?
...Or would that make too much sense for you?
How does one research the afterlife?"
Use your brain... Do you have one? |
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"What about sceances ?
Why doesn't everyone come back as a ghost or reincarnated ?
Why do some people turn into Zombies ?
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Séances are a load of rubbish in my opinion.
Why would anyone come back as a ghost if they'd finished their business here?
I think reincarnation is a flawed theory.
Some people turn in to zombies because if they didn't a whole genre if fiction wouldn't exist.  |
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"Instead of saying: 'I think this' or: 'my opinion is that'. Why not research it so that you 'know'?
...Or would that make too much sense for you?
How does one research the afterlife?
Use your brain... Do you have one?"
Clearly since I'm sentient, walking and talking.
If you find this thread annoying you're probably best avoiding it. |
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No. Our consciousness seems totally derived from our physical brain neurology. When that's defunct, the slate is wiped clean and it's likely to be impossible to recreate how we once had been as a person. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What about sceances ?
Why doesn't everyone come back as a ghost or reincarnated ?
Why do some people turn into Zombies ?
Séances are a load of rubbish in my opinion.
Why would anyone come back as a ghost if they'd finished their business here?
I think reincarnation is a flawed theory.
Some people turn in to zombies because if they didn't a whole genre if fiction wouldn't exist. "
What do you mean 'turn' into zombies... |
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I see it as an unfalsifiable claim.
In Camus' response to Sartre. Even atheism is a leap of faith. The only intellectually honest position is to stand on the edge and stare into the abyss of uncertainty. Anything else is philosophical suicide. |
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"What about sceances ?
Why doesn't everyone come back as a ghost or reincarnated ?
Why do some people turn into Zombies ?
Séances are a load of rubbish in my opinion.
Why would anyone come back as a ghost if they'd finished their business here?
I think reincarnation is a flawed theory.
Some people turn in to zombies because if they didn't a whole genre if fiction wouldn't exist.
What do you mean 'turn' into zombies... "
Isn't a zombie considered to be a corpse reincarnating ? |
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By *rigbyMan
over a year ago
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"I medically died on the operating table.
Nothing happened.
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If you actually died in a medicaly definite way,then came back from the dead...isn't that the definition of reincarnation, albeit as yourself?  |
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"I medically died on the operating table.
Nothing happened.
If you actually died in a medicaly definite way,then came back from the dead...isn't that the definition of reincarnation, albeit as yourself? "
No, as reincarnation is the act of a soul being reborn in another body |
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"I medically died on the operating table.
Nothing happened.
If you actually died in a medicaly definite way,then came back from the dead...isn't that the definition of reincarnation, albeit as yourself? "
I'd say that being revived from physical death indicates that something other than the physical survives for a certain period of time at least |
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"Absolutely not. What do you remember before your birth? Nothing. It will be the same once you're a rotting corpse and food for insects.
I don't remember anything from like 0-5yo, does it mean I didn't exist then? I don't think our bodies breaking down to physical elements excludes the potentiality of before/afterlife
Well there is no "Before life" that would just consist of existing in your old man's ballbag. Using the excuse of "I don't remember anything from 0-5" is such a weak argument. Well no you won't remember much from that time because you spent it crying and shitting yourself as an undeveloped infant. The billions of deceased humans that have never, not once, come back from the afterlife is probably concrete enough to know an afterlife is codswallop."
A similar cognitive weakness that stops me from remembering early life may prevent me from remembering prelife. Eg. You can't see what you can't see. I did way more than shitting myself and crying during 0-5 Flattening out experience to the very basics is definitely congruent with not believing there can be anything other than this physical plane though.
(FTR I'm not invested in any one possibility, only musing) |
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By *rigbyMan
over a year ago
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"I medically died on the operating table.
Nothing happened.
If you actually died in a medicaly definite way,then came back from the dead...isn't that the definition of reincarnation, albeit as yourself?
I'd say that being revived from physical death indicates that something other than the physical survives for a certain period of time at least"
I do understand that...that perhaps raises another question, what is the technical description of death and how long someone or thing can be actually correctly described as dead and then return to life
If all cognitive brain functions have ceased, how is it possible they could spontaneously re start?
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"I medically died on the operating table.
Nothing happened.
If you actually died in a medicaly definite way,then came back from the dead...isn't that the definition of reincarnation, albeit as yourself?
I'd say that being revived from physical death indicates that something other than the physical survives for a certain period of time at least"
That's the distinction between brain death and your heart stopping. The person who "died" on the operating table did not progress to brain death, otherwise they'd not be posting today. They most likely experienced cardiac arrest but their heart was restarted sufficiently quickly to avoid brain death. Having cardiac arrest on an operating table is probably the best place to have one because you are intubated and it's easy to administer sufficient oxygen and carry out cardiopulmonary resuscitation quickly.
This information doesn't (to my mind) lend any credence to the idea of something other than the physical surviving. It tells me medical interventions are good at helping people recover from cardiac arrest and not progressing to brain death. |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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As the saying goes every time someone passes someone else is born, do people who pass away, pass in misery but not seen and the emotions kept inside hence the new born crying. Do all new born cry at birth.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't believe in a man sat on a cloud saying yes or no to entrance to heaven but I don't think our souls ever really leave the earth, scientifically our atoms and energy doesn't, we just go round and round.  |
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"I medically died on the operating table.
Nothing happened.
If you actually died in a medicaly definite way,then came back from the dead...isn't that the definition of reincarnation, albeit as yourself?
I'd say that being revived from physical death indicates that something other than the physical survives for a certain period of time at least
I do understand that...that perhaps raises another question, what is the technical description of death and how long someone or thing can be actually correctly described as dead and then return to life
If all cognitive brain functions have ceased, how is it possible they could spontaneously re start?
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I agree I think saying you were brought back to life is probably an easy way of saying your heart was restarted |
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"As the saying goes every time someone passes someone else is born, do people who pass away, pass in misery but not seen and the emotions kept inside hence the new born crying. Do all new born cry at birth...."
Not all, no. But those who don't cry spontaneously don't inflate their lungs effectively and require oxygen to be administered or even intubation. Most very prem babies don't cry because they've not developed the reflex required. It's nothing to do with the spirits of past people and everything to do with inflating the organs that hitherto were unable to carry out gas exchange (because it doesn't happen in utero). |
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By *ack688Man
over a year ago
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Nope, when you’re dead you’re dead, I sure hope so anyway, Im pretty sure I will have had enough of existence by that point and any sort of conscious eternity sounds like hell regardless of what it is. |
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"As the saying goes every time someone passes someone else is born, do people who pass away, pass in misery but not seen and the emotions kept inside hence the new born crying. Do all new born cry at birth...."
I thought that new born babies cried at birth so that the Gestapo (in films) could be alerted to families otherwise successfully hiding in cellars. |
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Most religions say there is, which I find hard to accept. I find it hard to believe in something without evidence.
However, I do find near death experiences intriguing. There are doctors who taken them seriously and are investigating them (Sam Parnia and Pim van Lommel for example). These are difficult to explain, and I am not sure science even has the tools to do so. But they do suggest that consciousness continues after physical death.
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"As the saying goes every time someone passes someone else is born, do people who pass away, pass in misery but not seen and the emotions kept inside hence the new born crying. Do all new born cry at birth....
I thought that new born babies cried at birth so that the Gestapo (in films) could be alerted to families otherwise successfully hiding in cellars."
Is that really an appropriate comment, FFS? |
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"I don't believe in a man sat on a cloud saying yes or no to entrance to heaven but I don't think our souls ever really leave the earth, scientifically our atoms and energy doesn't, we just go round and round. "
And every now and then those atoms configure themselves in the most delightfully round ways. |
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Unless you ain't had personal experiences or felt the presence of those you have lost and passed on! Well you may not believe but some people just don't believe and that's their choice. We are all spirits, In my opinion theirs something but if i'm wrong well we won't know anyway until it's our turn. |
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".. or is it a case of when you’re gone, that’s it?
I’ve got to admit when I think about our own individual consciousness I wonder where it exactly came from when we’re born.. it kind of frazzles my brain a bit.
What’s your thoughts on it all? "
There is no evidence of an after life. Mainly due to there not being one! Ya die, ya dead. End of |
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"Most religions say there is, which I find hard to accept. I find it hard to believe in something without evidence.
However, I do find near death experiences intriguing. There are doctors who taken them seriously and are investigating them (Sam Parnia and Pim van Lommel for example). These are difficult to explain, and I am not sure science even has the tools to do so. But they do suggest that consciousness continues after physical death.
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No. They’ve been looked bad and no evidence found. They put numbers on top of cupboards see if out of body experience happened. Nothing. No suggestion at all of going on after death. Evidence is, brain dies, that’s it. End game |
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"As the saying goes every time someone passes someone else is born, do people who pass away, pass in misery but not seen and the emotions kept inside hence the new born crying. Do all new born cry at birth...."
If that were true, the number of people on earth would always remain the same. And no. |
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Science teaches us that matter never truly dies it just transitions into something else. I have seen many deaths in my Line or work and first think people usually do, doctors included, is open the window to let the soul escape.
My Dad died 11 years ago, I still talk to him, it makes me feel better but am I talking to him or just the part of myself that misses him? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Science teaches us that matter never truly dies it just transitions into something else. I have seen many deaths in my Line or work and first think people usually do, doctors included, is open the window to let the soul escape.
My Dad died 11 years ago, I still talk to him, it makes me feel better but am I talking to him or just the part of myself that misses him? "
First thing* |
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"Science teaches us that matter never truly dies it just transitions into something else. I have seen many deaths in my Line or work and first think people usually do, doctors included, is open the window to let the soul escape.
My Dad died 11 years ago, I still talk to him, it makes me feel better but am I talking to him or just the part of myself that misses him? "
Science, like humans, has evolved. Soul escaping? Scientists have never found souls! |
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I'm knocking on a bit now, with loads of things going wrong with me, so I should soon be in a position to find out.
If there is an afterlife, I will let you all know. If you don't get confirmation from me, assume there isn't one. |
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"I'm knocking on a bit now, with loads of things going wrong with me, so I should soon be in a position to find out.
If there is an afterlife, I will let you all know. If you don't get confirmation from me, assume there isn't one."
Will bring a different definition of DP to Fab (Deceased Poster) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Each to their own tbh , some do ..others don't..if a person believes in something and that something gives them peace & solace well them who is anyone else to take that peace & solace away from them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Like I said in my opening post, our own consciousness kind of blows my mind. Our emotions, souls, thoughts, experiences.. just appeared (from nowhere?) when we were born. Then just ceases to exist when we die.
Mind. Blown. "
Have you been smoking the herb? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As the saying goes every time someone passes someone else is born, do people who pass away, pass in misery but not seen and the emotions kept inside hence the new born crying. Do all new born cry at birth...."
Kinda makes sense when you think of it like that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't believe in a man sat on a cloud saying yes or no to entrance to heaven but I don't think our souls ever really leave the earth, scientifically our atoms and energy doesn't, we just go round and round.
And every now and then those atoms configure themselves in the most delightfully round ways."
Word. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We are all just free floating particles that sometimes get caught up and compressed into a body, bit of electronics zapped through it and hey presto, a new being. Whatever makes us is always there, there is no before or after, just different. Dont quote me on that though. |
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"We are all just free floating particles that sometimes get caught up and compressed into a body, bit of electronics zapped through it and hey presto, a new being. Whatever makes us is always there, there is no before or after, just different. Dont quote me on that though. "
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"We are all just free floating particles that sometimes get caught up and compressed into a body, bit of electronics zapped through it and hey presto, a new being. Whatever makes us is always there, there is no before or after, just different. Dont quote me on that though. "
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"We are all made of stars."
The most correct answer. We are all made of star dust so we will Simon LY return to star dust. If you are talking about 'consciousness' then effectively you are talking about energy. As far as we know any can be changed, from one type to another but again as far as we know it is impossible to destroy. Therefore, we can postulate that if 'consciousness' is energy, death is simply a change in state, say like water from liquid to ice. That would suggest that there is a lot of untapped energy just floating about? Maybe that could be what dark matter consists of? Anybody what to chat stuff like this, please shout. Love thes conversations. |
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"We are all made of stars.
The most correct answer. We are all made of star dust so we will Simon LY return to star dust. If you are talking about 'consciousness' then effectively you are talking about energy. As far as we know any can be changed, from one type to another but again as far as we know it is impossible to destroy. Therefore, we can postulate that if 'consciousness' is energy, death is simply a change in state, say like water from liquid to ice. That would suggest that there is a lot of untapped energy just floating about? Maybe that could be what dark matter consists of? Anybody what to chat stuff like this, please shout. Love thes conversations."
I love your view on this it’s a beautiful thing, I just hope when I die I go back to being a walking hardon at high school |
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"Like I said in my opening post, our own consciousness kind of blows my mind. Our emotions, souls, thoughts, experiences.. just appeared (from nowhere?) when we were born. Then just ceases to exist when we die.
Mind. Blown.
Have you been smoking the herb?"
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Maybe you come back in a different time zone or era and relive your life?
I believe there is something, how do you explain when you find the right person and spend your whole life with them you call them your soul mate?
Or when you get a feeling that you been somewhere before or other strange feelings.
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Good Morning Dan,
That would depend on how you are defining 'afterlife' I guess.
If you want to know if there is a possibility that when Dan Berks dies he will be born again with all his bits and bobbles in exactly the same formation as Dan Berks ONE, then no. This will not happen Dan. When Dan Berks ONE goes, then Dan Berks ONE has gone and will stay gone never to return.
If you want to know if all the 'stuff' that Dan Berks is made of ( at an atomic level , not just the odd bollock or bell end ) will still exist ; perhaps as soil to feed trees and worms, then yes Dan Berks, YES the material that made you will live on. Sadly we hide our dead underground or you could have fed a wolf or a tiger much more fitting to be Dan De Lion than Wormy Dan... anyway I digress.
Dan Berks was NOT born into this world he was born OUT of it, in the way that leaves are born from a tree, because everything that made Dan was already here ( given that the amount of matter, material , stuff never alters ) and whether Dan goes up in smoke or rots into the ground those chemical changes are irreversible.
Arrogance, fear and ignorance leads to so many wild ( and quite frankly stupid ) explanations of death and what happens afterwards.
It has taken billions of years for evolution to produce the life that exists on Earth now , but Earth is not precious about humans. If humans perish the Earth will continue to produce life.
Humans arrogantly think they are above all other living species. They create stories because they simply cannot comprehend how unimportant they are to the survival of Earth.
Not one mention of dog or fish or bird re-incarnation in this entire thread. What stupid creatures humans are. Not one horse ghost, not one spider you killed coming to sit on the end of your bed all ghostly white and wagging a leg at you. ( im digressing again )
Enjoy life NOW - this is our one shot. Those above who speak of the universe as 'one' are correct. We are all connected ;to each other, to other animals, plants ,trees and oceans but humans are not a 'special' kind of animal that can come back from the dead or that some unseen being made a special place for above the Earth.
Enjoy each day x
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"Good Morning Dan,
That would depend on how you are defining 'afterlife' I guess.
If you want to know if there is a possibility that when Dan Berks dies he will be born again with all his bits and bobbles in exactly the same formation as Dan Berks ONE, then no. This will not happen Dan. When Dan Berks ONE goes, then Dan Berks ONE has gone and will stay gone never to return.
If you want to know if all the 'stuff' that Dan Berks is made of ( at an atomic level , not just the odd bollock or bell end ) will still exist ; perhaps as soil to feed trees and worms, then yes Dan Berks, YES the material that made you will live on. Sadly we hide our dead underground or you could have fed a wolf or a tiger much more fitting to be Dan De Lion than Wormy Dan... anyway I digress.
Dan Berks was NOT born into this world he was born OUT of it, in the way that leaves are born from a tree, because everything that made Dan was already here ( given that the amount of matter, material , stuff never alters ) and whether Dan goes up in smoke or rots into the ground those chemical changes are irreversible.
Arrogance, fear and ignorance leads to so many wild ( and quite frankly stupid ) explanations of death and what happens afterwards.
It has taken billions of years for evolution to produce the life that exists on Earth now , but Earth is not precious about humans. If humans perish the Earth will continue to produce life.
Humans arrogantly think they are above all other living species. They create stories because they simply cannot comprehend how unimportant they are to the survival of Earth.
Not one mention of dog or fish or bird re-incarnation in this entire thread. What stupid creatures humans are. Not one horse ghost, not one spider you killed coming to sit on the end of your bed all ghostly white and wagging a leg at you. ( im digressing again )
Enjoy life NOW - this is our one shot. Those above who speak of the universe as 'one' are correct. We are all connected ;to each other, to other animals, plants ,trees and oceans but humans are not a 'special' kind of animal that can come back from the dead or that some unseen being made a special place for above the Earth.
Enjoy each day x
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My dog that passed nearly 6 weeks ago has visited me! Along with other family members! And agree we are not above other animals on this planet! X |
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"Good Morning Dan,
That would depend on how you are defining 'afterlife' I guess.
If you want to know if there is a possibility that when Dan Berks dies he will be born again with all his bits and bobbles in exactly the same formation as Dan Berks ONE, then no. This will not happen Dan. When Dan Berks ONE goes, then Dan Berks ONE has gone and will stay gone never to return.
If you want to know if all the 'stuff' that Dan Berks is made of ( at an atomic level , not just the odd bollock or bell end ) will still exist ; perhaps as soil to feed trees and worms, then yes Dan Berks, YES the material that made you will live on. Sadly we hide our dead underground or you could have fed a wolf or a tiger much more fitting to be Dan De Lion than Wormy Dan... anyway I digress.
Dan Berks was NOT born into this world he was born OUT of it, in the way that leaves are born from a tree, because everything that made Dan was already here ( given that the amount of matter, material , stuff never alters ) and whether Dan goes up in smoke or rots into the ground those chemical changes are irreversible.
Arrogance, fear and ignorance leads to so many wild ( and quite frankly stupid ) explanations of death and what happens afterwards.
It has taken billions of years for evolution to produce the life that exists on Earth now , but Earth is not precious about humans. If humans perish the Earth will continue to produce life.
Humans arrogantly think they are above all other living species. They create stories because they simply cannot comprehend how unimportant they are to the survival of Earth.
Not one mention of dog or fish or bird re-incarnation in this entire thread. What stupid creatures humans are. Not one horse ghost, not one spider you killed coming to sit on the end of your bed all ghostly white and wagging a leg at you. ( im digressing again )
Enjoy life NOW - this is our one shot. Those above who speak of the universe as 'one' are correct. We are all connected ;to each other, to other animals, plants ,trees and oceans but humans are not a 'special' kind of animal that can come back from the dead or that some unseen being made a special place for above the Earth.
Enjoy each day x
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"We are all just free floating particles that sometimes get caught up and compressed into a body, bit of electronics zapped through it and hey presto, a new being. Whatever makes us is always there, there is no before or after, just different. Dont quote me on that though. "
Where are the particles floating for the rest of the time?
I think the global warming people need to know. |
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I started work at John lewis in 1974, became good mates with a lad who started at the same time, he was on carpets I was on electrical, we bothebkeft after 5 years ish
Three years ago iwas in the same shop, just before they closed it for good.As I came down the escalator from the third floor to the carpet department on the second floor I felt my mates presence, odd i thought and carried on with my shopping
A few days later his wife contacted me to say he had passed away the day I was in the shop |
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over a year ago
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I’d like to think so. I think my family are somewhere having a party and waiting for the late attendees to finally rock up so they can serve the trifle.
There’s no rush to get there but when I do I know I’ll get welcome hugs and a big bowl of Trifle :D |
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"I started work at John lewis in 1974, became good mates with a lad who started at the same time, he was on carpets I was on electrical, we bothebkeft after 5 years ish
Three years ago iwas in the same shop, just before they closed it for good.As I came down the escalator from the third floor to the carpet department on the second floor I felt my mates presence, odd i thought and carried on with my shopping
A few days later his wife contacted me to say he had passed away the day I was in the shop"
It's interesting isn't it. I've had that experience several times after someone I know has died. Most recently my mum. I came home from the hospital where I'd sat with her as she died and went into her bedroom with my daughter. I literally felt my mum rush past me.
It's entirely possible that this was my imagination or wishful thinking. People often try to tell me what to believe |
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Weather your a believer or a skeptic, ghost hunting can be a totally fascinating experience that blends spirituality and science. Have you ever caught a glimpse of the world beyond? Have you asked the age old question " Does the soul continue after death?"
Maybe join me on a hunt sometime you can Answer that question yourself. |
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The evening after my partner passed away I felt him sit on the bed it wasn't my imagination
The week before he died he would sit on the bed to get his breath back before he got in |
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"I work in cemeteries a lot, and I can honestly say that I have had some ‘experiences’ ( and no, not THAT kind!)"
Care to elaborate ? Genuine question we do follow paranormal so would be interested to hear. |
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"We are all made of stars.
The most correct answer. We are all made of star dust so we will Simon LY return to star dust. If you are talking about 'consciousness' then effectively you are talking about energy. As far as we know any can be changed, from one type to another but again as far as we know it is impossible to destroy. Therefore, we can postulate that if 'consciousness' is energy, death is simply a change in state, say like water from liquid to ice. That would suggest that there is a lot of untapped energy just floating about? Maybe that could be what dark matter consists of? Anybody what to chat stuff like this, please shout. Love thes conversations."
We see you’re from Derby have you visited The Gaol ? We are interested in the paranormal and could chat for hours on the subject. We’re not |
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"I started work at John lewis in 1974, became good mates with a lad who started at the same time, he was on carpets I was on electrical, we bothebkeft after 5 years ish
Three years ago iwas in the same shop, just before they closed it for good.As I came down the escalator from the third floor to the carpet department on the second floor I felt my mates presence, odd i thought and carried on with my shopping
A few days later his wife contacted me to say he had passed away the day I was in the shop
It's interesting isn't it. I've had that experience several times after someone I know has died. Most recently my mum. I came home from the hospital where I'd sat with her as she died and went into her bedroom with my daughter. I literally felt my mum rush past me.
It's entirely possible that this was my imagination or wishful thinking. People often try to tell me what to believe "
I believe, watch west coast medium next time its on, very fascinating |
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"I work in cemeteries a lot, and I can honestly say that I have had some ‘experiences’ ( and no, not THAT kind!)
Care to elaborate ? Genuine question we do follow paranormal so would be interested to hear. "
Me too |
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