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"Chris Huhne pleads guilty to perverting the course of justice,,,, The durty fook’in bastard…… "Thats quite a serious situation as I think that can carry a jail sentance as per Lord Archer amongst others, especially as he has continually pleaded his innocence even when his estranged wife dropped him and her deep into the brown stuff with her interviews last year. | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled." Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day  | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day "Yes it is! They are saying that he was ritually humiliated after death too. Who'd have thought he'd be in car park? | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled." Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,, | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day
Yes it is! They are saying that he was ritually humiliated after death too. Who'd have thought he'd be in car park?"perhaps he was dogging | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day
Yes it is! They are saying that he was ritually humiliated after death too. Who'd have thought he'd be in car park?"This is fascinating stuff, I'll be glued to the box tonight. | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day
Yes it is! They are saying that he was ritually humiliated after death too. Who'd have thought he'd be in car park?
perhaps he was dogging" | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,, " | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,, "They said it's him. Prison sentence may well be likely for Chris Huhne. | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,,
They said it's him.
Prison sentence may well be likely for Chris Huhne."I'm watching it on the Beeb,,,,  and they aint done the reveal yet | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day
Yes it is! They are saying that he was ritually humiliated after death too. Who'd have thought he'd be in car park?"I wonder if Chris Huhne will be ritually humiliated IF he is sentenced to prison  | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,,
They said it's him.
Prison sentence may well be likely for Chris Huhne.
I'm watching it on the Beeb,,,, and they aint done the reveal yet"I'm on there now - and watching the reveal now. It's painful. | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,,
They said it's him.
Prison sentence may well be likely for Chris Huhne."Two truck drivers with no previous convictions were sentenced to six months in Lincoln two years ago..will be interesting to see what happens | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,,
They said it's him.
Prison sentence may well be likely for Chris Huhne.
I'm watching it on the Beeb,,,, and they aint done the reveal yet
I'm on there now - and watching the reveal now. It's painful."haha,,, yeah they are really milking it!! | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,,
They said it's him.
Prison sentence may well be likely for Chris Huhne.
I'm watching it on the Beeb,,,, and they aint done the reveal yet
I'm on there now - and watching the reveal now. It's painful.
haha,,, yeah they are really milking it!! "There was a headline saying it is him. We know the skeleton is male and the a DNA match. Yay! Announced. | |||
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"Scientists confirm Richard III is dead….. "You forgot the major announcement - he was Male! | |||
"Scientists confirm Richard III is dead….. "You have really made me laugh this morning, the drawing it out comment had me spitting my redbush into the wastebin | |||
"Scientists confirm Richard III is dead…..
You forgot the major announcement - he was Male!"lol | |||
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"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,, "Confirmed! That gave me goose bumps! He should be interred in Westminster Abbey but the Mayor of Leicester is saying that Ricky 3 will remain in Leicester. | |||
"Scientists confirm Richard III is dead…..
You have really made me laugh this morning, the drawing it out comment had me spitting my redbush into the wastebin" | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,,
Confirmed! That gave me goose bumps!
He should be interred in Westminster Abbey but the Mayor of Leicester is saying that Ricky 3 will remain in Leicester."That was strangely exciting. Does it make me a geek? | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,,
Confirmed! That gave me goose bumps!
He should be interred in Westminster Abbey but the Mayor of Leicester is saying that Ricky 3 will remain in Leicester.
That was strangely exciting. Does it make me a geek?"Alas poor Yorick, I'm afraid it does.  | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,,
Confirmed! That gave me goose bumps!
He should be interred in Westminster Abbey but the Mayor of Leicester is saying that Ricky 3 will remain in Leicester.
That was strangely exciting. Does it make me a geek?
Alas poor Yorick, I'm afraid it does. "It'll be ok - I still have big boobs and a cunny. | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,,
Confirmed! That gave me goose bumps!
He should be interred in Westminster Abbey but the Mayor of Leicester is saying that Ricky 3 will remain in Leicester.
That was strangely exciting. Does it make me a geek?"Geek is the new chic’  | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,,
Confirmed! That gave me goose bumps!
He should be interred in Westminster Abbey but the Mayor of Leicester is saying that Ricky 3 will remain in Leicester."He is after all a former monarch; like it or not, his ass belongs in Westminster Abbey with the others. Its not really a point for debate surely? Its not like we are a republic, his remains are not a side show attraction like they would be in La France!  | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Not yet......I'm watching it now,,,, still waiting to be confirmed it's him.... They are really drawing it out,,,,,,
Confirmed! That gave me goose bumps!
He should be interred in Westminster Abbey but the Mayor of Leicester is saying that Ricky 3 will remain in Leicester.
That was strangely exciting. Does it make me a geek?
Geek is the new chic’"Geek, chic, Le Freak? | |||
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"I wonder if Chris Huhme plans using any under-hand tactics to cover his arse in the shower block….. "Does it work underhand? Surely placing hands squarely behind your behind would work better? | |||
"Chris Huhne pleads guilty to perverting the course of justice,,,, The durty fook’in bastard…… "is that over the points thing on his license???... tut tut tut.... | |||
"Good. Hope he gets rogered something feckin ROTTEN and becomes some hairy-arsed lags Beeee-atch on the fist (whoops! Fruedian!!) day. Serve the little fecker right - I just hope a pray they don't give him ANY special favours or it will be a travesty!!!!!! "Yep, I’d like to see the book thrown at him too..... | |||
"I wonder if Chris Huhme plans using any under-hand tactics to cover his arse in the shower block…..
Does it work underhand? Surely placing hands squarely behind your behind would work better?"Well, if he's left alone in the shower with half a dozen sex-starved lifers, he's really going to find out what the saying "We're all in 'it' together' means......
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"I wonder if Chris Huhme plans using any under-hand tactics to cover his arse in the shower block…..
Does it work underhand? Surely placing hands squarely behind your behind would work better?"I think he’s better off just adopting the brace position.. | |||
"Good. Hope he gets rogered something feckin ROTTEN and becomes some hairy-arsed lags Beeee-atch on the fist (whoops! Fruedian!!) day. Serve the little fecker right - I just hope a pray they don't give him ANY special favours or it will be a travesty!!!!!!
Yep, I’d like to see the book thrown at him too..... "If you threw the book at him afterwards, he'd probably see it as blessed relief. I can imagine the 'in-house' bookies taking bets on where he's going and who's going to have him first, right now!!! My moneys on Bristol - Male adults and young offenders a speciality there...
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"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ?" Yes, should he be kept in Leicester or sent to the Abbey? | |||
"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ?" Do you think "Richard the Third" would be proud to know his name lives on in cockney rhyming slang….?. eh! | |||
"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ? Yes, should he be kept in Leicester or sent to the Abbey?" Re-interred in the nearest consecrated ground seems to be the rule. | |||
"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ? Do you think "Richard the Third" would be proud to know his name lives on in cockney rhyming slang….?. eh! "Bearing in mind what it is slang for, and what they did to his body after his death (ivory horns and red hot pokers permitting) I see a cruel irony in that......
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"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ? Yes, should he be kept in Leicester or sent to the Abbey?" Left in Leicester.... | |||
"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ? Yes, should he be kept in Leicester or sent to the Abbey? Re-interred in the nearest consecrated ground seems to be the rule." He was the last King of the House of York, so how about York Minster...??? | |||
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"I know who Richard the third is but who is this Chris bloke?? "Lib Dem MP Caught speeding and tried to get his wife to take the points then denied it | |||
"I know who Richard the third is but who is this Chris bloke??
Lib Dem MP Caught speeding and tried to get his wife to take the points then denied it"what a silly billy | |||
"I know who Richard the third is but who is this Chris bloke?? "Lying toe-rag of a so-called MP..... | |||
"Didn't realise remains found under a social services car park. Same old Royals always scrounging, probably applied for a horse!" He was in the queue so long they built over him? | |||
"Didn't realise remains found under a social services car park. Same old Royals always scrounging, probably applied for a horse!" He did offer collateral for the loan of a horse... | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day
Yes it is! They are saying that he was ritually humiliated after death too. Who'd have thought he'd be in car park?"This is bullshit yo! Everyone knows they didn't have cars in olden times. Next you will be saying that dinosaurs invented toilets or some shit. Don't listen to her everyone. | |||
"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ? Yes, should he be kept in Leicester or sent to the Abbey? Re-interred in the nearest consecrated ground seems to be the rule. He was the last King of the House of York, so how about York Minster...???" I have a feeling his final resting place will not be settled immediately. The Plantagenets still extant may want to make a case for Westminster. | |||
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"Didn't realise remains found under a social services car park. Same old Royals always scrounging, probably applied for a horse! He did offer collateral for the loan of a horse... " | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day
Yes it is! They are saying that he was ritually humiliated after death too. Who'd have thought he'd be in car park?
This is bullshit yo! Everyone knows they didn't have cars in olden times. Next you will be saying that dinosaurs invented toilets or some shit.
Don't listen to her everyone."Funky, get in your time machine and check it out. Plus, this is a serious discussion about archeology and stuff. | |||
"Do'ya think Tony Robinson and the Time-Team will be "well-jel"....eh! "They had a reunion a couple of weekends ago. Perhaps the whole party was taken up with them saying 'we was robbed'? | |||
"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ? Yes, should he be kept in Leicester or sent to the Abbey? Re-interred in the nearest consecrated ground seems to be the rule. He was the last King of the House of York, so how about York Minster...??? I have a feeling his final resting place will not be settled immediately. The Plantagenets still extant may want to make a case for Westminster." To be pedantic on a church point (why, as an atheist, I really don't know) but Richard III is a pre-Henry VIII monarch, so was sanctified by the Roman Catholic Church, was he not? Westminster is an Anglican Cathedral, so they'd be interring one of the 'other lot' within their precincts, surely...? | |||
"Chris Huhne pleads guilty to perverting the course of justice,,,, The durty fook’in bastard…… "Caught hook line an sinker, their all crooked , know I wonder how big a slap he'll get | |||
"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ? Yes, should he be kept in Leicester or sent to the Abbey? Re-interred in the nearest consecrated ground seems to be the rule. He was the last King of the House of York, so how about York Minster...??? I have a feeling his final resting place will not be settled immediately. The Plantagenets still extant may want to make a case for Westminster. To be pedantic on a church point (why, as an atheist, I really don't know) but Richard III is a pre-Henry VIII monarch, so was sanctified by the Roman Catholic Church, was he not? Westminster is an Anglican Cathedral, so they'd be interring one of the 'other lot' within their precincts, surely...?" The Church of England is but a sect of the Catholic Church. So York would be out too on that basis. | |||
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"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ? Yes, should he be kept in Leicester or sent to the Abbey? Re-interred in the nearest consecrated ground seems to be the rule. He was the last King of the House of York, so how about York Minster...??? I have a feeling his final resting place will not be settled immediately. The Plantagenets still extant may want to make a case for Westminster. To be pedantic on a church point (why, as an atheist, I really don't know) but Richard III is a pre-Henry VIII monarch, so was sanctified by the Roman Catholic Church, was he not? Westminster is an Anglican Cathedral, so they'd be interring one of the 'other lot' within their precincts, surely...? The Church of England is but a sect of the Catholic Church. So York would be out too on that basis." Hmmm... Don't think you would have been on good terms with Henry VIII if you told HIM his Church was, but a sect of Rome.... | |||
"Do'ya think Tony Robinson and the Time-Team will be "well-jel"....eh!
They had a reunion a couple of weekends ago. Perhaps the whole party was taken up with them saying 'we was robbed'?"
“ Ere Tony this tiny shard of pottery was probably part of a medieval pot used for cooking, proving beyond all doubt that in the past medieval people were probably using pots to cook in” | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day
Yes it is! They are saying that he was ritually humiliated after death too. Who'd have thought he'd be in car park?
This is bullshit yo! Everyone knows they didn't have cars in olden times. Next you will be saying that dinosaurs invented toilets or some shit.
Don't listen to her everyone.
Funky, get in your time machine and check it out. Plus, this is a serious discussion about archeology and stuff."Well I can tell you first hand he didn't have a hunchback and he didn't kill his nephews. Tudor propaganda yo! | |||
"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ? Yes, should he be kept in Leicester or sent to the Abbey? Re-interred in the nearest consecrated ground seems to be the rule. He was the last King of the House of York, so how about York Minster...??? I have a feeling his final resting place will not be settled immediately. The Plantagenets still extant may want to make a case for Westminster. To be pedantic on a church point (why, as an atheist, I really don't know) but Richard III is a pre-Henry VIII monarch, so was sanctified by the Roman Catholic Church, was he not? Westminster is an Anglican Cathedral, so they'd be interring one of the 'other lot' within their precincts, surely...? The Church of England is but a sect of the Catholic Church. So York would be out too on that basis.Hmmm... Don't think you would have been on good terms with Henry VIII if you told HIM his Church was, but a sect of Rome...." Look at the Creed - "One Catholic and Apostolic Church" | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day
Yes it is! They are saying that he was ritually humiliated after death too. Who'd have thought he'd be in car park?
This is bullshit yo! Everyone knows they didn't have cars in olden times. Next you will be saying that dinosaurs invented toilets or some shit.
Don't listen to her everyone.
Funky, get in your time machine and check it out. Plus, this is a serious discussion about archeology and stuff.
Well I can tell you first hand he didn't have a hunchback and he didn't kill his nephews. Tudor propaganda yo!"That there W. Shakespeare made up a story and it became the history. Well, quite a lot of history is like that. | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day
Yes it is! They are saying that he was ritually humiliated after death too. Who'd have though he'd be in car park?
This is bullshit yo! Everyone knows they didn't have cars in olden times. Next you will be saying that dinosaurs invented toilets or some shit.
Don't listen to her everyone.
Funky, get in your time machine and check it out. Plus, this is a serious discussion about archeology and stuff.
Well I can tell you first hand he didn't have a hunchback and he didn't kill his nephews. Tudor propaganda yo!
That there W. Shakespeare made up a story and it became the history. Well, quite a lot of history is like that."I think William Shakespeare is quentin tarantino's great great great great great great grand pappy or something. Always making shit up is that lot! | |||
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Fook-sake, Nick….. man-up and call him a wanker…!
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"OMG…….Nick Clegg is shocked and saddened by Huhmegate scandel….
Fook-sake, Nick….. man-up and call him a wanker…!
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"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ? Yes, should he be kept in Leicester or sent to the Abbey? Re-interred in the nearest consecrated ground seems to be the rule. He was the last King of the House of York, so how about York Minster...??? I have a feeling his final resting place will not be settled immediately. The Plantagenets still extant may want to make a case for Westminster. To be pedantic on a church point (why, as an atheist, I really don't know) but Richard III is a pre-Henry VIII monarch, so was sanctified by the Roman Catholic Church, was he not? Westminster is an Anglican Cathedral, so they'd be interring one of the 'other lot' within their precincts, surely...? The Church of England is but a sect of the Catholic Church. So York would be out too on that basis.Hmmm... Don't think you would have been on good terms with Henry VIII if you told HIM his Church was, but a sect of Rome.... Look at the Creed - "One Catholic and Apostolic Church"" Read it. So, to use a metaphor, It's the same as Mr R York, who worked for Borroughs Wellcome and retired, has passed on and is now being buried by Glaxo Smith Kline some years later. Same company, same business, same objectives....just new owners....??? | |||
"OMG…….Nick Clegg is shocked and saddened by Huhmegate scandel….
Fook-sake, Nick….. man-up and call him a wanker…!
"Soxy, I think I love you. I may have to make you my secret Valentine. | |||
"OMG…….Nick Clegg is shocked and saddened by Huhmegate scandel….
Fook-sake, Nick….. man-up and call him a wanker…!
Soxy, I think I love you. I may have to make you my secret Valentine." | |||
" The Church of England is but a sect of the Catholic Church. So York would be out too on that basis.Hmmm... Don't think you would have been on good terms with Henry VIII if you told HIM his Church was, but a sect of Rome.... Look at the Creed - "One Catholic and Apostolic Church" Read it. So, to use a metaphor, It's the same as Mr R York, who worked for Borroughs Wellcome and retired, has passed on and is now being buried by Glaxo Smith Kline some years later. Same company, same business, same objectives....just new owners....??? " That's it exactly. | |||
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"I guess "Happy Richard the Third Day"….. Has been a good one to bury news about the Police being accused of adopting the identities of dead children while conducting undercover work… "Yes, I saw that this morning. I hope none of them has used my son's identity - they'll wish they were dead if they have. | |||
"I guess "Happy Richard the Third Day"….. Has been a good one to bury news about the Police being accused of adopting the identities of dead children while conducting undercover work…
Yes, I saw that this morning. I hope none of them has used my son's identity - they'll wish they were dead if they have."It’s a very emotive situation and must be terribly distressing for families who maybe effected . Apparently there are allegations of 80 or so cases of stolen identities…. | |||
"I guess "Happy Richard the Third Day"….. Has been a good one to bury news about the Police being accused of adopting the identities of dead children while conducting undercover work… "the method of how to was in 'day of the jackal', think the law may have been tightened up by now.. distressing for the families.. | |||
"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day
Yes it is! They are saying that he was ritually humiliated after death too. Who'd have thought he'd be in car park?
perhaps he was dogging"Haha, belter | |||
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"I guess "Happy Richard the Third Day"….. Has been a good one to bury news about the Police being accused of adopting the identities of dead children while conducting undercover work…
the method of how to was in 'day of the jackal', think the law may have been tightened up by now..
distressing for the families.."I think it’s being reported these alleged cases all happened sometime ago and the practice no longer goes on within the police force,,, but if it was illegal when they allegedly did it, they should still be held to account….!. | |||
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"Why does every little scandal have to have the word 'gate' attached to it these days? I know it has it's roots in Watergate, but what if your surname was 'Garden', that's gonna look a bit silly innit. Additionally, Mr Huhme only tried to blag his way out of a speeding ticket ffs and there's a thread on here telling people exactly how to do the same thing. One law for the poor (ie, get away with it if you can) and another for the rich (ie, pay up ya cunt). "Nothing to do with the amount of money he has, more to do with dirty politicians who stand on their soap box and tell people how to abide the law while they go around breaking them. He has plenty of opportunity to admit what he did but continued to lie. However, what he did is hardly the crime of the century so I don't see any need for jail time at all an if so it should be minimal. | |||
"Man, this all happened a decade ago! How many men have got their wives to take speeding points for them in all that time. I know of at least five personally who have done it. What a storm in a teacup this is! " Ditto, also know of 2 people who have done similar in the past.. yes perverting the course of justice is a a serious crime etc etc, but its not like murder or some of the more serious offences on the statute.. how many have been let off with a caution or Officers discretion, i know one friends wife who was speeding then pulled over by an unmarked motor.. she hitched her skirt up a little and flashed her blue eyes, bit of 'dizzy blonde simpering' (her words) and she was told off.. and thats the 2nd time she has used that.. how many Senior Coppers or brothers from the lodge have been let off in the past..? being a high profile MP seems to just make us all want to relish in his decline a bit more than joe or joanne bloggs across the way.. hell hath no fury eh.. | |||
" Nothing to do with the amount of money he has, more to do with dirty politicians who stand on their soap box and tell people how to abide the law while they go around breaking them. He has plenty of opportunity to admit what he did but continued to lie. However, what he did is hardly the crime of the century so I don't see any need for jail time at all an if so it should be minimal. " I'd have to agree what he did is hardly the crime of the century, however, like you also said above it's about lying. He had the opportunity to come clean but being a professional liar by day , he chose not to until he had exhausted all other avenues. If he isn't given a prison sentence it makes a mockery of the British justice system surely? | |||
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" Nothing to do with the amount of money he has, more to do with dirty politicians who stand on their soap box and tell people how to abide the law while they go around breaking them. He has plenty of opportunity to admit what he did but continued to lie. However, what he did is hardly the crime of the century so I don't see any need for jail time at all an if so it should be minimal. I'd have to agree what he did is hardly the crime of the century, however, like you also said above it's about lying. He had the opportunity to come clean but being a professional liar by day , he chose not to until he had exhausted all other avenues. If he isn't given a prison sentence it makes a mockery of the British justice system surely?" This all base hypocrisy. I'd stake my life that 50% of people using these forums have got away with something in the past and have yet to fess up about it. On one hand we get people _xpressing the view that our prisons should be hard tough places to send hardened criminals and then some bloke who tried to get his missus to take the rap for him (oo gee, that's unheard of isn't it) has people baying for him to be sent down! What a crock of shit. His punishment, as an MP who cannot hold a criminal conviction whilst in office, is to stand down as an MP, which he has announced he is going to do. Job done, end of story, move on. Next! | |||
" Nothing to do with the amount of money he has, more to do with dirty politicians who stand on their soap box and tell people how to abide the law while they go around breaking them. He has plenty of opportunity to admit what he did but continued to lie. However, what he did is hardly the crime of the century so I don't see any need for jail time at all an if so it should be minimal. I'd have to agree what he did is hardly the crime of the century, however, like you also said above it's about lying. He had the opportunity to come clean but being a professional liar by day , he chose not to until he had exhausted all other avenues. If he isn't given a prison sentence it makes a mockery of the British justice system surely?" | |||
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"A public servant "attempting to pervert the course of justice" is a serious crime……. "thats what will send him down...  | |||
"Besides, he's a LibDem MP - they lie as a matter of course. No surprise there then." Wishy, they ALL lie... its called politics.. | |||
"A public servant "attempting to pervert the course of justice" is a serious crime…….
thats what will send him down... "I hope so! | |||
"Besides, he's a LibDem MP - they lie as a matter of course. No surprise there then." Just Tories in sandals. | |||
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"A public servant "attempting to pervert the course of justice" is a serious crime…….
thats what will send him down...
I hope so! " | |||
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"Besides, he's a LibDem MP - they lie as a matter of course. No surprise there then. Just Tories in sandals." i have to protest in the most protestational manner.. as an occasional sandal wearer i totally reject any link between Tories and sandals.. | |||
" .............. If he isn't given a prison sentence it makes a mockery of the British justice system surely?" My money is on 6 months reduced to 3 for good behaviour in Leyhill. | |||
" Nothing to do with the amount of money he has, more to do with dirty politicians who stand on their soap box and tell people how to abide the law while they go around breaking them. He has plenty of opportunity to admit what he did but continued to lie. However, what he did is hardly the crime of the century so I don't see any need for jail time at all an if so it should be minimal. I'd have to agree what he did is hardly the crime of the century, however, like you also said above it's about lying. He had the opportunity to come clean but being a professional liar by day , he chose not to until he had exhausted all other avenues. If he isn't given a prison sentence it makes a mockery of the British justice system surely? This all base hypocrisy. I'd stake my life that 50% of people using these forums have got away with something in the past and have yet to fess up about it. On one hand we get people _xpressing the view that our prisons should be hard tough places to send hardened criminals and then some bloke who tried to get his missus to take the rap for him (oo gee, that's unheard of isn't it) has people baying for him to be sent down! What a crock of shit. His punishment, as an MP who cannot hold a criminal conviction whilst in office, is to stand down as an MP, which he has announced he is going to do. Job done, end of story, move on. Next!" Totally agree, taking up prison space, for what is in essence somebody doing maybe eight miles over the speed limit is farcical...suspect that those baying for his blood wouldn't be doing the same for a mate/family member who did the same thing. | |||
"Besides, he's a LibDem MP - they lie as a matter of course. No surprise there then. Wishy, they ALL lie... its called politics.." Well yes of course they ALL do it, but Libdems go on courses n everfink!! | |||
" Nothing to do with the amount of money he has, more to do with dirty politicians who stand on their soap box and tell people how to abide the law while they go around breaking them. He has plenty of opportunity to admit what he did but continued to lie. However, what he did is hardly the crime of the century so I don't see any need for jail time at all an if so it should be minimal. I'd have to agree what he did is hardly the crime of the century, however, like you also said above it's about lying. He had the opportunity to come clean but being a professional liar by day , he chose not to until he had exhausted all other avenues. If he isn't given a prison sentence it makes a mockery of the British justice system surely? This all base hypocrisy. I'd stake my life that 50% of people using these forums have got away with something in the past and have yet to fess up about it. On one hand we get people _xpressing the view that our prisons should be hard tough places to send hardened criminals and then some bloke who tried to get his missus to take the rap for him (oo gee, that's unheard of isn't it) has people baying for him to be sent down! What a crock of shit. His punishment, as an MP who cannot hold a criminal conviction whilst in office, is to stand down as an MP, which he has announced he is going to do. Job done, end of story, move on. Next! Totally agree, taking up prison space, for what is in essence somebody doing maybe eight miles over the speed limit is farcical...suspect that those baying for his blood wouldn't be doing the same for a mate/family member who did the same thing. " My point persactly! | |||
" .............. If he isn't given a prison sentence it makes a mockery of the British justice system surely?" The British Justice system is already a mockery, how could this total bollocks make it any worse? If he warrants some sort of sentence, put an electronic tag on him for 6 months. | |||
"Besides, he's a LibDem MP - they lie as a matter of course. No surprise there then. Wishy, they ALL lie... its called politics.."
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" Totally agree, taking up prison space, for what is in essence somebody doing maybe eight miles over the speed limit is farcical...suspect that those baying for his blood wouldn't be doing the same for a mate/family member who did the same thing. " But the sentence won't be for speeding so that is pretty irrelevant. | |||
"Why does every little scandal have to have the word 'gate' attached to it these days? I know it has it's roots in Watergate, but what if your surname was 'Garden', that's gonna look a bit silly innit. Additionally, Mr Huhme only tried to blag his way out of a speeding ticket ffs and there's a thread on here telling people exactly how to do the same thing. One law for the poor (ie, get away with it if you can) and another for the rich (ie, pay up ya cunt). "It's got nothing to do with being rich, if he is rich in the first place, it's to do with being an MP where he is a part of the process of setting the laws in this country, and then for what in effect would have been a small fine and penalty points on his license, perhaps including a driving ban if the individual offence warranted it, or accumulation of points demanded it, he made the decision to perjure himself. At the time of the actual offense he was a MEP. As an intelligent man and woman they both knew what they were doing and now will pay the consequences of that decision | |||
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"Why does every little scandal have to have the word 'gate' attached to it these days? I know it has it's roots in Watergate, but what if your surname was 'Garden', that's gonna look a bit silly innit. Additionally, Mr Huhme only tried to blag his way out of a speeding ticket ffs and there's a thread on here telling people exactly how to do the same thing. One law for the poor (ie, get away with it if you can) and another for the rich (ie, pay up ya cunt).
Nothing to do with the amount of money he has, more to do with dirty politicians who stand on their soap box and tell people how to abide the law while they go around breaking them. He has plenty of opportunity to admit what he did but continued to lie.
However, what he did is hardly the crime of the century so I don't see any need for jail time at all an if so it should be minimal. "The original "crime" of speeding I agree is relatively minor and loads of people break that law regularly and pay their fine and "serve their time" via penalty points on their license. Huhme's crime though is perjury and that is a much more serious thing altogether as Geoffry Archer amongst others discovered. | |||
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"And the skeleton is Richard III. What a good morning to have my meetings cancelled. Is it! IS IT! I was hoping so but that has made my day ""Loyalty mi lye" (loyalty binds me) Richards coat of arms motto and its about time he rested in peace with the honour a King of England deserves | |||
"Why does every little scandal have to have the word 'gate' attached to it these days? I know it has it's roots in Watergate, but what if your surname was 'Garden', that's gonna look a bit silly innit. Additionally, Mr Huhme only tried to blag his way out of a speeding ticket ffs and there's a thread on here telling people exactly how to do the same thing. One law for the poor (ie, get away with it if you can) and another for the rich (ie, pay up ya cunt).
Nothing to do with the amount of money he has, more to do with dirty politicians who stand on their soap box and tell people how to abide the law while they go around breaking them. He has plenty of opportunity to admit what he did but continued to lie.
However, what he did is hardly the crime of the century so I don't see any need for jail time at all an if so it should be minimal.
The original "crime" of speeding I agree is relatively minor and loads of people break that law regularly and pay their fine and "serve their time" via penalty points on their license.
Huhme's crime though is perjury and that is a much more serious thing altogether as Geoffry Archer amongst others discovered."Perjury is up there with Conspiracy as one of the crimes which the State considers subversive, so it takes a very dim view of it, reflected in the potential sentence handed down. | |||
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" Totally agree, taking up prison space, for what is in essence somebody doing maybe eight miles over the speed limit is farcical...suspect that those baying for his blood wouldn't be doing the same for a mate/family member who did the same thing. But the sentence won't be for speeding so that is pretty irrelevant." Of course it isn't..it will up to the judiciary to decide the severity of his sentence. Do you think he should get a life sentence, because he perverted the course of justice..Of course not. The sentence needs to be commensurate with the nature of the crime. My point is for someone who is extremely unlikely to be a danger to the public, a custodial sentence is pointless. Far more productive would be meaningful community work. | |||
" .......... My point is for someone who is extremely unlikely to be a danger to the public, a custodial sentence is pointless. Far more productive would be meaningful community work. " The public want blood on this one, especially Lib Dem blood. | |||
"How ironic that on the same thread we're discussing a man who tried to cheat a speeding ticket being hounded for his head, and we're discussing a man who had his caved in with an axe and who had to be brutal to remain King but we're hailing him as some long lost son returning home. Richard is just a long dead king who has no bearing on our lives and Huhne is now an ex MP who also has no bearing on our lives." I'd disagree but take your point. I wonder how different our lives today may have been without Richards stint on the throne. Maybe no difference at all but who can say with any certainty. As for Hune... good riddance to bad rubbish. The man obviously is not to be trusted therefore has no place as an MP. Ironic though as I don't trust any of them lol. | |||
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"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence.. "To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude. | |||
"Anyway, back to Richard III...... ? Yes, should he be kept in Leicester or sent to the Abbey. Re-interred in the nearest consecrated ground seems to be the rule. He was the last King of the House of York, so how about York Minster...??? I have a feeling his final resting place will not be settled immediately. The Plantagenets still extant may want to make a case for Westminster. To be pedantic on a church point (why, as an atheist, I really don't know) but Richard III is a pre-Henry VIII monarch, so was sanctified by the Roman Catholic Church, was he not? Westminster is an Anglican Cathedral, so they'd be interring one of the 'other lot' within their precincts, surely...? The Church of England is but a sect of the Catholic Church. So York would be out too on that basis.Hmmm... Don't think you would have been on good terms with Henry VIII if you told HIM his Church was, but a sect of Rome.... Look at the Creed - "One Catholic and Apostolic Church"" If you're going to quote the Nicene creed as your evidence then I suggest you do it correctly - the capitalisation makes a big difference to the actual meaning: "I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church" The Nicene creed was written in the 4th century as a profession of faith and of cohesion when factions of the Christian faith were splintering and splitting over matters of dogma and interpretation of holy writ (in many cases which written word was gospel and what was simply contemporary or near contemporary account). The Church of the time bore very little resemblance to the modern Catholic church, or even the Catholic church of plantagenet times. And catholic and Catholic have different meanings. | |||
"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude."If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make….. However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation…. So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......? | |||
"Oh perverting the course of justice...i know someone who got an 18 month sentence for that...." the only thing saving hulme from that is that he finally pleaded guilty before it went to trial... just.... he would have saved himself a 1/3 if he had just pleaded guilty at the earliest oppotunity... I still think he will get 6-9 months.... | |||
"..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. " Abso-fucking-lutely. Teach the silly bitch to keep her trap shut. | |||
"..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Abso-fucking-lutely. Teach the silly bitch to keep her trap shut. " Is it not his ex mrs? Did this not all come out after he was caught cheating? I thought it was a woman scorned thing. | |||
"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude.
If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make…..
However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation….
So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......?"Exactly. That little s**t has had TEN YEARS to 'suck it up' and admit the truth. For that alone he should get the maximum that is allowed. You and I would get treated that way, so why the f**k should HE get off lightly..??? As for his ex-missus, she dropped him in it some time ago. Hope she gets a suspended sentence, but a sentence nonetheless. | |||
"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude.
If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make…..
However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation….
So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......?
Exactly. That little s**t has had TEN YEARS to 'suck it up' and admit the truth. For that alone he should get the maximum that is allowed.
You and I would get treated that way, so why the f**k should HE get off lightly..???
As for his ex-missus, she dropped him in it some time ago. Hope she gets a suspended sentence, but a sentence nonetheless."
I’m certainly not outraged and I’m not baying for his blood,,,, but I’d rather live in a society that is willing to show its disapproval towards unacceptable behaviour rather than tolerated it with a leniency which does not attempt to deter corruption from happening at any level of that society…. . | |||
"..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Abso-fucking-lutely. Teach the silly bitch to keep her trap shut. Is it not his ex mrs? Did this not all come out after he was caught cheating? I thought it was a woman scorned thing." Exactly, she obviously thought she could drop him in it and walk away. | |||
I agree with comments by Soxy, if he had fessed up and taken the hit in the first place this would all be done and dusted. He would still have his job. He has tried all through this to wriggle out of it by pointing the finger at his ex wife. The guy is an ass and deserves the full punishment for not only the original offence but also perjury, perverting the course of justice and wasting police time. | |||
"His ex wife sort revenge by dobbing him in but she did not realise that by agreeing to take the points for him in the first place she had also committed a crime... stupid is as stupid does
I agree with comments by Soxy, if he had fessed up and taken the hit in the first place this would all be done and dusted. He would still have his job. He has tried all through this to wriggle out of it by pointing the finger at his ex wife. The guy is an ass and deserves the full punishment for not only the original offence but also perjury, perverting the course of justice and wasting police time. " | |||
"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude.
If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make…..
However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation….
So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......?
Exactly. That little s**t has had TEN YEARS to 'suck it up' and admit the truth. For that alone he should get the maximum that is allowed.
You and I would get treated that way, so why the f**k should HE get off lightly..???
As for his ex-missus, she dropped him in it some time ago. Hope she gets a suspended sentence, but a sentence nonetheless.
I’m certainly not outraged and I’m not baying for his blood,,,, but I’d rather live in a society that is willing to show its disapproval towards unacceptable behaviour rather than tolerated it with a leniency which does not attempt to deter corruption from happening at any level of that society…. . "Corruption? | |||
"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude.
If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make…..
However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation….
So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......?
Exactly. That little s**t has had TEN YEARS to 'suck it up' and admit the truth. For that alone he should get the maximum that is allowed.
You and I would get treated that way, so why the f**k should HE get off lightly..???
As for his ex-missus, she dropped him in it some time ago. Hope she gets a suspended sentence, but a sentence nonetheless.
I’m certainly not outraged and I’m not baying for his blood,,,, but I’d rather live in a society that is willing to show its disapproval towards unacceptable behaviour rather than tolerated it with a leniency which does not attempt to deter corruption from happening at any level of that society…. .
Corruption?"Yes attempted corruption of the law…. For example…. ”Habitual speeding driver runs down child after avoiding a ban by coercing his partner into taking his penalty points that would have otherwise prevented him from being at the wheel of a car at the time of the accident … great init,,,,eh”…. Any good to you! | |||
"..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Abso-fucking-lutely. Teach the silly bitch to keep her trap shut. " Lol Steve, I can picture you actually speaking that out loud. She sure a dopey bint for someone supposed to be intelligent. Whatever he gets she should get too as she was as much to blame as he was. In all honesty, I can't say I really give a flying fuck about either of them. | |||
"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude.
If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make…..
However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation….
So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......?
Exactly. That little s**t has had TEN YEARS to 'suck it up' and admit the truth. For that alone he should get the maximum that is allowed.
You and I would get treated that way, so why the f**k should HE get off lightly..???
As for his ex-missus, she dropped him in it some time ago. Hope she gets a suspended sentence, but a sentence nonetheless.
I’m certainly not outraged and I’m not baying for his blood,,,, but I’d rather live in a society that is willing to show its disapproval towards unacceptable behaviour rather than tolerated it with a leniency which does not attempt to deter corruption from happening at any level of that society…. .
Corruption?
Yes attempted corruption of the law….
For example….
”Habitual speeding driver runs down child after avoiding a ban by coercing his partner into taking his penalty points that would have otherwise prevented him from being at the wheel of a car at the time of the accident … great init,,,,eh”….
Any good to you! "No good at all..corrupting the law? what does that mean? and clearly ridiculous extrapolating such a retrospective scenario and relating to the crime Huhne committed | |||
"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude.
If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make…..
However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation….
So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......?
Exactly. That little s**t has had TEN YEARS to 'suck it up' and admit the truth. For that alone he should get the maximum that is allowed.
You and I would get treated that way, so why the f**k should HE get off lightly..???
As for his ex-missus, she dropped him in it some time ago. Hope she gets a suspended sentence, but a sentence nonetheless.
I’m certainly not outraged and I’m not baying for his blood,,,, but I’d rather live in a society that is willing to show its disapproval towards unacceptable behaviour rather than tolerated it with a leniency which does not attempt to deter corruption from happening at any level of that society…. .
Corruption?
Yes attempted corruption of the law….
For example….
”Habitual speeding driver runs down child after avoiding a ban by coercing his partner into taking his penalty points that would have otherwise prevented him from being at the wheel of a car at the time of the accident … great init,,,,eh”….
Any good to you!
No good at all..corrupting the law? what does that mean? and clearly ridiculous extrapolating such a retrospective scenario and relating to the crime Huhne committed"Corruption was attempting to say he never committed the crime and asking someone else to say they did .... and why is that example a ridicules scenario? | |||
"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude.
If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make…..
However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation….
So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......?
Exactly. That little s**t has had TEN YEARS to 'suck it up' and admit the truth. For that alone he should get the maximum that is allowed.
You and I would get treated that way, so why the f**k should HE get off lightly..???
As for his ex-missus, she dropped him in it some time ago. Hope she gets a suspended sentence, but a sentence nonetheless.
I’m certainly not outraged and I’m not baying for his blood,,,, but I’d rather live in a society that is willing to show its disapproval towards unacceptable behaviour rather than tolerated it with a leniency which does not attempt to deter corruption from happening at any level of that society…. .
Corruption?
Yes attempted corruption of the law….
For example….
”Habitual speeding driver runs down child after avoiding a ban by coercing his partner into taking his penalty points that would have otherwise prevented him from being at the wheel of a car at the time of the accident … great init,,,,eh”….
Any good to you!
No good at all..corrupting the law? what does that mean? and clearly ridiculous extrapolating such a retrospective scenario and relating to the crime Huhne committed
Corruption was attempting to say he never committed the crime and asking someone else to say they did .... and why is that example a ridicules scenario?
"That's not corruption, that's perverting the course of justice, which is what he's charged with ..and it's a ridiculous scenario because he won't be sentenced bearing in mind that he should have been banned, and thus stopping him potentially killing a child. He will be sentenced for perverting the course of justice..no more no less charged.. | |||
"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude.
If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make…..
However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation….
So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......?
Exactly. That little s**t has had TEN YEARS to 'suck it up' and admit the truth. For that alone he should get the maximum that is allowed.
You and I would get treated that way, so why the f**k should HE get off lightly..???
As for his ex-missus, she dropped him in it some time ago. Hope she gets a suspended sentence, but a sentence nonetheless.
I’m certainly not outraged and I’m not baying for his blood,,,, but I’d rather live in a society that is willing to show its disapproval towards unacceptable behaviour rather than tolerated it with a leniency which does not attempt to deter corruption from happening at any level of that society…. .
Corruption?
Yes attempted corruption of the law….
For example….
”Habitual speeding driver runs down child after avoiding a ban by coercing his partner into taking his penalty points that would have otherwise prevented him from being at the wheel of a car at the time of the accident … great init,,,,eh”….
Any good to you!
No good at all..corrupting the law? what does that mean? and clearly ridiculous extrapolating such a retrospective scenario and relating to the crime Huhne committed
Corruption was attempting to say he never committed the crime and asking someone else to say they did .... and why is that example a ridicules scenario?
That's not corruption, that's perverting the course of justice, which is what he's charged with ..and it's a ridiculous scenario because he won't be sentenced bearing in mind that he should have been banned, and thus stopping him potentially killing a child. He will be sentenced for perverting the course of justice..no more no less
charged.."Are the words "perverting and corruption" so diametrically opposed that your feel compelled to present a symantec objection to what amounts to the same thing.? As for the hypothetical scenario….!. Are you suggesting that people who repeatedly disregard the speed limits are no more likely to be involved in accidents…? … | |||
"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude.
If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make…..
However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation….
So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......?
Exactly. That little s**t has had TEN YEARS to 'suck it up' and admit the truth. For that alone he should get the maximum that is allowed.
You and I would get treated that way, so why the f**k should HE get off lightly..???
As for his ex-missus, she dropped him in it some time ago. Hope she gets a suspended sentence, but a sentence nonetheless.
I’m certainly not outraged and I’m not baying for his blood,,,, but I’d rather live in a society that is willing to show its disapproval towards unacceptable behaviour rather than tolerated it with a leniency which does not attempt to deter corruption from happening at any level of that society…. .
Corruption?
Yes attempted corruption of the law….
For example….
”Habitual speeding driver runs down child after avoiding a ban by coercing his partner into taking his penalty points that would have otherwise prevented him from being at the wheel of a car at the time of the accident … great init,,,,eh”….
Any good to you!
No good at all..corrupting the law? what does that mean? and clearly ridiculous extrapolating such a retrospective scenario and relating to the crime Huhne committed
Corruption was attempting to say he never committed the crime and asking someone else to say they did .... and why is that example a ridicules scenario?
That's not corruption, that's perverting the course of justice, which is what he's charged with ..and it's a ridiculous scenario because he won't be sentenced bearing in mind that he should have been banned, and thus stopping him potentially killing a child. He will be sentenced for perverting the course of justice..no more no less
charged..
Are the words "perverting and corruption" so diametrically opposed that your feel compelled to present a symantec objection to what amounts to the same thing.?
As for the hypothetical scenario….!.
Are you suggesting that people who repeatedly disregard the speed limits are no more likely to be involved in accidents…? …
"Semantics are none applicable when it comes to the law..Perverting the course of justice and Corruption are not interchangeable, they have precise meanings. I'm sure you will agree that is desirable. I apologise re the second part of your post, obviously you have not understood my point. I'll try again. Huhn, and that's the case we are discussing, will be sentenced purely on the evidence before the court, not one what have might or might not have happened if he had been banned ten years ago. He won't be sentenced on the basis that he had the potential to kill a child because he perverted the course of justice. Therefore the scenario mentioned simply doesn't apply to this case. I hope that makes it clearer. | |||
"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude.
If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make…..
However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation….
So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......?
Exactly. That little s**t has had TEN YEARS to 'suck it up' and admit the truth. For that alone he should get the maximum that is allowed.
You and I would get treated that way, so why the f**k should HE get off lightly..???
As for his ex-missus, she dropped him in it some time ago. Hope she gets a suspended sentence, but a sentence nonetheless.
I’m certainly not outraged and I’m not baying for his blood,,,, but I’d rather live in a society that is willing to show its disapproval towards unacceptable behaviour rather than tolerated it with a leniency which does not attempt to deter corruption from happening at any level of that society…. .
Corruption?
Yes attempted corruption of the law….
For example….
”Habitual speeding driver runs down child after avoiding a ban by coercing his partner into taking his penalty points that would have otherwise prevented him from being at the wheel of a car at the time of the accident … great init,,,,eh”….
Any good to you!
No good at all..corrupting the law? what does that mean? and clearly ridiculous extrapolating such a retrospective scenario and relating to the crime Huhne committed
Corruption was attempting to say he never committed the crime and asking someone else to say they did .... and why is that example a ridicules scenario?
That's not corruption, that's perverting the course of justice, which is what he's charged with ..and it's a ridiculous scenario because he won't be sentenced bearing in mind that he should have been banned, and thus stopping him potentially killing a child. He will be sentenced for perverting the course of justice..no more no less
charged..
Are the words "perverting and corruption" so diametrically opposed that your feel compelled to present a symantec objection to what amounts to the same thing.?
As for the hypothetical scenario….!.
Are you suggesting that people who repeatedly disregard the speed limits are no more likely to be involved in accidents…? …
Semantics are none applicable when it comes to the law..Perverting the course of justice and Corruption are not interchangeable, they have precise meanings. I'm sure you will agree that is desirable.
I apologise re the second part of your post, obviously you have not understood my point. I'll try again.
Huhn, and that's the case we are discussing, will be sentenced purely on the evidence before the court, not one what have might or might not have happened if he had been banned ten years ago. He won't be sentenced on the basis that he had the potential to kill a child because he perverted the course of justice. Therefore the scenario mentioned simply doesn't apply to this case. I hope that makes it clearer.
It makes it much clearer and you are no doubt technically right on both counts and I agree that the law and its limitations must take president.....
However saying that I will maintain my choice to challenge those limitations where I feel they don’t adequately meet the justice that fit my moral compass without feeling ridicules for doing so... …
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"How ironic that on the same thread we're discussing a man who tried to cheat a speeding ticket being hounded for his head, and we're discussing a man who had his caved in with an axe and who had to be brutal to remain King but we're hailing him as some long lost son returning home. Richard is just a long dead king who has no bearing on our lives and Huhne is now an ex MP who also has no bearing on our lives." That's what I like about this thread. The two news stories actually focus on reputation, perception and different views on how we as society should respond to this. On the Huhne matter, his speech to 2008 LibDem conference was about crime and punishment. He stated that the sentences are proportionate and don't need to be strengthened but what did need to improve is catching criminals: not enough are caught and so prison is not a deterrent. On Richard III, there are now people asking for a state funeral for the bones. That there should be a laying in so that people have a chance to "pay their last respects". We're bonkers as a nation on so many levels. | |||
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"Theres a whole lot of big words being used by a lot of very smart people......well done fabsters....btw....it will be no good using any of these when ur shaggin us.....we will just think your talkin dirty..... "OMG that made me burst out laughing | |||
"Theres a whole lot of big words being used by a lot of very smart people......well done fabsters....btw....it will be no good using any of these when ur shaggin us.....we will just think your talkin dirty.....
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"Much as I’d like to see him forced to do community service….. I feel its equally important for the severity of his punishment to reflect all the many times he’s attempted to cheat justice by categorically denying the crime which he now admits too…. To my mind that can only be achieved with a custodial jail sentence..
To what purpose!..and a custodial sentence for his wife?. Hand on heart, are you really that outraged that people try and avoid driving bans through the accumulation of points..do you never break speed limits? Sorry, but all this faux outrage is nothing more than political Schadenfreude.
If he’d originally admitted the driving offence he would have been dealt with accordingly and it would have been passed of as a error of judgement that many people make…..
However he’s had many opportunities to put the record straight,,,,,,, ,and yet he’s chosen to repeatedly lie to the nation who pay for him to help defend and uphold the laws of our nation….
So what example would it set to let him off with little more than a slap on the wrist… ......?
Exactly. That little s**t has had TEN YEARS to 'suck it up' and admit the truth. For that alone he should get the maximum that is allowed.
You and I would get treated that way, so why the f**k should HE get off lightly..???
As for his ex-missus, she dropped him in it some time ago. Hope she gets a suspended sentence, but a sentence nonetheless.
I’m certainly not outraged and I’m not baying for his blood,,,, but I’d rather live in a society that is willing to show its disapproval towards unacceptable behaviour rather than tolerated it with a leniency which does not attempt to deter corruption from happening at any level of that society…. .
Corruption?
Yes attempted corruption of the law….
For example….
”Habitual speeding driver runs down child after avoiding a ban by coercing his partner into taking his penalty points that would have otherwise prevented him from being at the wheel of a car at the time of the accident … great init,,,,eh”….
Any good to you!
No good at all..corrupting the law? what does that mean? and clearly ridiculous extrapolating such a retrospective scenario and relating to the crime Huhne committed
Corruption was attempting to say he never committed the crime and asking someone else to say they did .... and why is that example a ridicules scenario?
That's not corruption, that's perverting the course of justice, which is what he's charged with ..and it's a ridiculous scenario because he won't be sentenced bearing in mind that he should have been banned, and thus stopping him potentially killing a child. He will be sentenced for perverting the course of justice..no more no less
charged..
Are the words "perverting and corruption" so diametrically opposed that your feel compelled to present a symantec objection to what amounts to the same thing.?
As for the hypothetical scenario….!.
Are you suggesting that people who repeatedly disregard the speed limits are no more likely to be involved in accidents…? …
Semantics are none applicable when it comes to the law..Perverting the course of justice and Corruption are not interchangeable, they have precise meanings. I'm sure you will agree that is desirable.
I apologise re the second part of your post, obviously you have not understood my point. I'll try again.
Huhn, and that's the case we are discussing, will be sentenced purely on the evidence before the court, not one what have might or might not have happened if he had been banned ten years ago. He won't be sentenced on the basis that he had the potential to kill a child because he perverted the course of justice. Therefore the scenario mentioned simply doesn't apply to this case. I hope that makes it clearer.
It makes it much clearer and you are no doubt technically right on both counts and I agree that the law and its limitations must take president.....
However saying that I will maintain my choice to challenge those limitations where I feel they don’t adequately meet the justice that fit my moral compass without feeling ridicules for doing so... …
I totally respect your moral compass, and hope you accept that I wasn't ridiculing you..I am not in any way an apologist for Huhn, I have a moral compass , but I believe in justice not emotional knee jerk reactions.
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"Just watched Richard III: The King in a Car Park and it was one of the most fascinating programmes I've seen in a long time. Right at the end they showed the facial reconstruction derived from the skull and it was amazing to look at Richard III after 500 years. Incredible." I'm watching it on +1. It is amazing that they found him in the first trench. | |||
"Just watched Richard III: The King in a Car Park and it was one of the most fascinating programmes I've seen in a long time. Right at the end they showed the facial reconstruction derived from the skull and it was amazing to look at Richard III after 500 years. Incredible. I'm watching it on +1. It is amazing that they found him in the first trench." Some things are just meant to be found and some not. Were they lucky? I like to think they had an educated guess at where he might be and lucked out finding him in the first trench, but I think they would have dug that whole car park up if they had to. They knew the plan of the church and with him being an important person he would have been buried somewhere central in it, that's the educated guess part. | |||
"Just watched Richard III: The King in a Car Park and it was one of the most fascinating programmes I've seen in a long time. Right at the end they showed the facial reconstruction derived from the skull and it was amazing to look at Richard III after 500 years. Incredible. I'm watching it on +1. It is amazing that they found him in the first trench. Some things are just meant to be found and some not. Were they lucky? I like to think they had an educated guess at where he might be and lucked out finding him in the first trench, but I think they would have dug that whole car park up if they had to. They knew the plan of the church and with him being an important person he would have been buried somewhere central in it, that's the educated guess part." But he was under the R which is the strange twist bit. | |||
"Just watched Richard III: The King in a Car Park and it was one of the most fascinating programmes I've seen in a long time. Right at the end they showed the facial reconstruction derived from the skull and it was amazing to look at Richard III after 500 years. Incredible. I'm watching it on +1. It is amazing that they found him in the first trench." just watched it and have to agree, the lady from the Richard 3rd society seemed more surprised that... oops sorry Lickety wont spoil it.. | |||
"Just watched Richard III: The King in a Car Park and it was one of the most fascinating programmes I've seen in a long time. Right at the end they showed the facial reconstruction derived from the skull and it was amazing to look at Richard III after 500 years. Incredible. I'm watching it on +1. It is amazing that they found him in the first trench. just watched it and have to agree, the lady from the Richard 3rd society seemed more surprised that... oops sorry Lickety wont spoil it.. "It's ok, I know how this story ends. | |||
"We're bonkers as a nation on so many levels." so very true, love it.. | |||
"Just watched Richard III: The King in a Car Park and it was one of the most fascinating programmes I've seen in a long time. Right at the end they showed the facial reconstruction derived from the skull and it was amazing to look at Richard III after 500 years. Incredible. I'm watching it on +1. It is amazing that they found him in the first trench. just watched it and have to agree, the lady from the Richard 3rd society seemed more surprised that... oops sorry Lickety wont spoil it..
It's ok, I know how this story ends. "Pmsl, yes but her reaction which will become evident did surprise me a little bit.. | |||
"Theres a whole lot of big words being used by a lot of very smart people......well done fabsters....btw....it will be no good using any of these when ur shaggin us.....we will just think your talkin dirty..... "I now have snot on my keyboard! | |||
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