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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest." This! And nothing but this! | |||
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"Winchester University which is the town were King Alfred burnt his cakes, have paid 24k for a statue and now moving it onto a more secure plinth apparently because vandals may target it with paint. Waste of money or great value?" Was it made of wood & transported by pony & trap. | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest." This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?! | |||
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"Winchester University which is the town were King Alfred burnt his cakes, have paid 24k for a statue and now moving it onto a more secure plinth apparently because vandals may target it with paint. Waste of money or great value?" Complete and utter waste of money. Wanna know why? | |||
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"Winchester University which is the town were King Alfred burnt his cakes, have paid 24k for a statue and now moving it onto a more secure plinth apparently because vandals may target it with paint. Waste of money or great value?" Buying paint to throw at a statue is definitely a waste of money... | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?!" If I remember correctly from my history lessons in school the affor mentioned cakes were actually bread rolls | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?!" Scones…. Or scones depending on how you say it  | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest." Unfortunately being a public university they are partly funded by the government, so actually it's our money they are spending. | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?! Scones…. Or scones depending on how you say it "It's pronounced scones. To pronounce it as scones is just wrong. | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?! If I remember correctly from my history lessons in school the affor mentioned cakes were actually bread rolls " Aye bread is assumed (if the story is indeed true) https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/King-Alfred-the-Cakes/ | |||
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"I don't really have an opinion for it, but wanted to comment to see the polite discourse that will occur throughout the thread "To late for that, we’re on scone jokes and 9th Century British history now .. | |||
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"I don't really have an opinion for it, but wanted to comment to see the polite discourse that will occur throughout the thread
To late for that, we’re on scone jokes and 9th Century British history now .. "Was it scones or bread rolls tho? | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?! If I remember correctly from my history lessons in school the affor mentioned cakes were actually bread rolls Aye bread is assumed (if the story is indeed true) https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/King-Alfred-the-Cakes/" Thanks I see the comment about scones and thought maybe I'm wrong, not for the first time  | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. Unfortunately being a public university they are partly funded by the government, so actually it's our money they are spending. " *If* it was tax payers money used. There are normally strict rules around it all. I don't know enough about, but still stand by my statement. | |||
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"I don't really have an opinion for it, but wanted to comment to see the polite discourse that will occur throughout the thread
To late for that, we’re on scone jokes and 9th Century British history now .. "But was it specified whether jam or cream goes on first?  | |||
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"I think she's an amazing young woman. I would be very proud if she was my daughter. " Agreed | |||
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"I find the whole eco thing hilarious.. They’ve brainwashed people.. All these muppets need to look at the earths millions of years history... The sun earth moon are on like a piece of elastic that swayed closer to one than the other.. It’s been happen since well before humans.. You can’t stop it... And as for sea level rising!? People need to read the arcamedis theory.. The world is doing land reclamation dumping land back in the sea.. God know how many boats and those outrageous large floating city ships in the sea.. Where do they think the water goes.... Hahahaha hahaha " My science books sadly omitted the piece of elastic thing 
And is it Archimedes Principle you refer to? There's negligible mass of ships/boats, compared to the total mass of water on the planet. It will make absolutely no difference. | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. Unfortunately being a public university they are partly funded by the government, so actually it's our money they are spending. *If* it was tax payers money used. There are normally strict rules around it all. I don't know enough about, but still stand by my statement." Universities receive a lot of private funding and donations, as well as ring fenced teaching and research funding from the Govt (though less and less all the time). Much research and building development etc is effectively funded by donations or partnerships between institutions and businesses, or wealthy individuals. | |||
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"I don't really have an opinion for it, but wanted to comment to see the polite discourse that will occur throughout the thread
To late for that, we’re on scone jokes and 9th Century British history now ..
But was it specified whether jam or cream goes on first? "You're just confusing the issue now Joe, we haven't even decided if it was scones or bread rolls yet. | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?! If I remember correctly from my history lessons in school the affor mentioned cakes were actually bread rolls Aye bread is assumed (if the story is indeed true) https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/King-Alfred-the-Cakes/ Thanks I see the comment about scones and thought maybe I'm wrong, not for the first time "Anyway, back to the OP!! Winchester is definitely NOT on the Somerset levels (where Alfred is said to have burnt the cakes / bread / scones so does that call into question how trustworthy Tom’s sources are!?! Is this a game changer for the forums!? Can we trust ANYTHING he says!?  | |||
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"I don't really have an opinion for it, but wanted to comment to see the polite discourse that will occur throughout the thread
To late for that, we’re on scone jokes and 9th Century British history now ..
But was it specified whether jam or cream goes on first? "And do they have carrots in? Oh, wait, that's Cornish pasties. | |||
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"I think she's an amazing young woman. I would be very proud if she was my daughter. Agreed "She was/is pushed into it by her failed Eurovision singer failed celeb mother,daughters fame by proxy. | |||
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"I think she's an amazing young woman. I would be very proud if she was my daughter. Agreed
She was/is pushed into it by her failed Eurovision singer failed celeb mother,daughters fame by proxy."I wasn’t going to wade in to this particular strand of the debate but ahhh fuck it! Why not? I find she’s fine when reading a pre-prepared script or given an exceptionally easy ride in interviews. Falls to pieces when challenged and had to go off-script and answer for herself. Definitely a PR friendly face / front for the team behind her (including billionaires) which is driving the agenda / message and financing the whole thing. Anyway. Jam first! ALWAYS. And it’s definitely pronounced scone. Not scone. | |||
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"I think she's an amazing young woman. I would be very proud if she was my daughter. Agreed
She was/is pushed into it by her failed Eurovision singer failed celeb mother,daughters fame by proxy.
I wasn’t going to wade in to this particular strand of the debate but ahhh fuck it! Why not?
I find she’s fine when reading a pre-prepared script or given an exceptionally easy ride in interviews. Falls to pieces when challenged and had to go off-script and answer for herself.
Definitely a PR friendly face / front for the team behind her (including billionaires) which is driving the agenda / message and financing the whole thing.
Anyway. Jam first! ALWAYS. And it’s definitely pronounced scone. Not scone. "Are you able to understand how being autistic might impact Ms Thunberg? Being prepared and things unfolding via an agreed format will be typically much easier and less anxiety inducing for most autistic people. Including the person sat next to me. | |||
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" Are you able to understand how being autistic might impact Ms Thunberg? Being prepared and things unfolding via an agreed format will be typically much easier and less anxiety inducing for most autistic people. Including the person sat next to me. " Absolutely. I totally get it. No critique of her or anyone who has autism, indeed I never mentioned or implied anything about her autism at any point? But that also tells me that someone is pre-preparing her scripts. It’s great she has the gumption to get up and read them. All the more power to her. But I stand by the fact that there’s a big machine behind her using her as a “relatable” face to spread “the message”. She says what she’s told. And has been told all her life. I have no doubt she absolutely stands by what she says though given her parents backgrounds and beliefs, and all the more power to her. | |||
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" Are you able to understand how being autistic might impact Ms Thunberg? Being prepared and things unfolding via an agreed format will be typically much easier and less anxiety inducing for most autistic people. Including the person sat next to me. Absolutely. I totally get it. No critique of her or anyone who has autism, indeed I never mentioned or implied anything about her autism at any point? But that also tells me that someone is pre-preparing her scripts. It’s great she has the gumption to get up and read them. All the more power to her. But I stand by the fact that there’s a big machine behind her using her as a “relatable” face to spread “the message”. She says what she’s told. And has been told all her life. I have no doubt she absolutely stands by what she says though given her parents backgrounds and beliefs, and all the more power to her." Why do you think someone else is preparing for her? She is quite capable of preparing for herself. She is quite likely preparing what she is going to talk about, prepares the likely responses needed to questions etc herself. If it goes off piste, she will find it harder to respond off the cuff, even if she knows the theory/information exactly. You didn't mention autism but you questioned her ability to speak in public and have now twice suggested that she has "people behind her" doing the preparation. You seem unable to understand how an incredibly intelligent, autistic person might prepare and present on a topic from their own expertise. | |||
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" Are you able to understand how being autistic might impact Ms Thunberg? Being prepared and things unfolding via an agreed format will be typically much easier and less anxiety inducing for most autistic people. Including the person sat next to me. Absolutely. I totally get it. No critique of her or anyone who has autism, indeed I never mentioned or implied anything about her autism at any point? But that also tells me that someone is pre-preparing her scripts. It’s great she has the gumption to get up and read them. All the more power to her. But I stand by the fact that there’s a big machine behind her using her as a “relatable” face to spread “the message”. She says what she’s told. And has been told all her life. I have no doubt she absolutely stands by what she says though given her parents backgrounds and beliefs, and all the more power to her. Why do you think someone else is preparing for her? She is quite capable of preparing for herself. She is quite likely preparing what she is going to talk about, prepares the likely responses needed to questions etc herself. If it goes off piste, she will find it harder to respond off the cuff, even if she knows the theory/information exactly. You didn't mention autism but you questioned her ability to speak in public and have now twice suggested that she has "people behind her" doing the preparation. You seem unable to understand how an incredibly intelligent, autistic person might prepare and present on a topic from their own expertise. " If someone is going to volunteer themselves as the public face of a cause, then I would expect them to have to face critical challenge, autism or not, the same as any other outspoken public figure representing any cause. Should Greta get an exemption from any form of questioning / challenge due to her autism? She (or the machine behind her) puts herself out there and made herself a worldwide personality / spokesperson on the subject so she can’t expect a free pass. We’re clearly not going to agree on the huge machine behind her - so I’ll grant you the right of reply to this post and the last word, and rather than continue in a circular argument I’ll leave the debate here! | |||
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" Are you able to understand how being autistic might impact Ms Thunberg? Being prepared and things unfolding via an agreed format will be typically much easier and less anxiety inducing for most autistic people. Including the person sat next to me. Absolutely. I totally get it. No critique of her or anyone who has autism, indeed I never mentioned or implied anything about her autism at any point? But that also tells me that someone is pre-preparing her scripts. It’s great she has the gumption to get up and read them. All the more power to her. But I stand by the fact that there’s a big machine behind her using her as a “relatable” face to spread “the message”. She says what she’s told. And has been told all her life. I have no doubt she absolutely stands by what she says though given her parents backgrounds and beliefs, and all the more power to her. Why do you think someone else is preparing for her? She is quite capable of preparing for herself. She is quite likely preparing what she is going to talk about, prepares the likely responses needed to questions etc herself. If it goes off piste, she will find it harder to respond off the cuff, even if she knows the theory/information exactly. You didn't mention autism but you questioned her ability to speak in public and have now twice suggested that she has "people behind her" doing the preparation. You seem unable to understand how an incredibly intelligent, autistic person might prepare and present on a topic from their own expertise. If someone is going to volunteer themselves as the public face of a cause, then I would expect them to have to face critical challenge, autism or not, the same as any other outspoken public figure representing any cause. Should Greta get an exemption from any form of questioning / challenge due to her autism? She (or the machine behind her) puts herself out there and made herself a worldwide personality / spokesperson on the subject so she can’t expect a free pass. We’re clearly not going to agree on the huge machine behind her - so I’ll grant you the right of reply to this post and the last word, and rather than continue in a circular argument I’ll leave the debate here! " Of course she is open to criticism. However, it's possible to understand why she comes across as she does, rather than assume she is someone else's puppet. That is all. I find the constant nitpicking about her to be immensely unfair. There are multitudes of male figureheads for various causes, who are unable to even remember the untruths they told in the prior interview, yet don't receive such incredible criticism. Indeed the opposite, people support them, vote for them. Agree with them. Not everyone is the same and not everyone is a born public speaker, full of charisma. It doesn't mean that they don't have something valuable to contribute to society. | |||
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"I find the whole eco thing hilarious.. They’ve brainwashed people.. All these muppets need to look at the earths millions of years history... The sun earth moon are on like a piece of elastic that swayed closer to one than the other.. It’s been happen since well before humans.. You can’t stop it... And as for sea level rising!? People need to read the arcamedis theory.. The world is doing land reclamation dumping land back in the sea.. God know how many boats and those outrageous large floating city ships in the sea.. Where do they think the water goes.... Hahahaha hahaha " It runs off the edge. | |||
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"Winchester University which is the town were King Alfred burnt his cakes, have paid 24k for a statue and now moving it onto a more secure plinth apparently because vandals may target it with paint. Waste of money or great value? Buying paint to throw at a statue is definitely a waste of money..." Unless it’s orange paint… throwing orange paint on things is healthy exercise  | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?! Scones…. Or scones depending on how you say it "Did he make some more and add jam? | |||
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"Winchester University which is the town were King Alfred burnt his cakes, have paid 24k for a statue and now moving it onto a more secure plinth apparently because vandals may target it with paint. Waste of money or great value?" depends whether its Dulux or Brewers | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up!" How dare you! | |||
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"Why is there so much hatred for this young woman?! " Maybe because she speaks from a pulpit of extreme privilege to tell the proles that doing everything they can to scrape by makes them the worst thing in the world and they must be stripped of what meagre options they have so that those of her ilk can continue to utilise far more carbon on a per capita basis than any of the people whose lives she would seek to destroy. *Shrug* | |||
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"Why is there so much hatred for this young woman?! " There are so many ignorant people. | |||
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"Why is there so much hatred for this young woman?! There are so many ignorant people. " You mean, among the people who can't understand her haters? (Impartial observer here) | |||
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"Don't forget they stole her childhood... " That young girl was groomed by an adult with a motive, that’s why she’d like she is. Someone forced their opinions on her and got her to believe in them and then stand on a soap box as shock. People listened to the child as the adult couldn’t be heard. | |||
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"Don't forget they stole her childhood... That young girl was groomed by an adult with a motive, that’s why she’d like she is. Someone forced their opinions on her and got her to believe in them and then stand on a soap box as shock. People listened to the child as the adult couldn’t be heard. " Like every single Christian in the world?? | |||
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"Why is there so much hatred for this young woman?! There are so many ignorant people. You mean, among the people who can't understand her haters? (Impartial observer here)" Can anyone understand haters who are demonstrably wrong? | |||
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"Don't forget they stole her childhood... " Who? | |||
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"Don't forget they stole her childhood... That young girl was groomed by an adult with a motive, that’s why she’d like she is. Someone forced their opinions on her and got her to believe in them and then stand on a soap box as shock. People listened to the child as the adult couldn’t be heard. Like every single Christian in the world??" Yes absolutely but some to a lesser extent than others, the same applies here, you’re bang on. | |||
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"Don't forget they stole her childhood... That young girl was groomed by an adult with a motive, that’s why she’d like she is. Someone forced their opinions on her and got her to believe in them and then stand on a soap box as shock. People listened to the child as the adult couldn’t be heard. Like every single Christian in the world?? Yes absolutely but some to a lesser extent than others, the same applies here, you’re bang on." Except Christians aren’t berated for their lies, the money they take in taxes, being head of the country, yet the girl telling the facts is! | |||
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"Winchester University which is the town were King Alfred burnt his cakes, have paid 24k for a statue and now moving it onto a more secure plinth apparently because vandals may target it with paint. Waste of money or great value?" Is the statue carbon neutral? They must get the big thick piece of rock from somewhere. | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?! Scones…. Or scones depending on how you say it
It's pronounced scones. To pronounce it as scones is just wrong."And ffs don't start the whole cream/jam first debate either! 
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"Don't forget they stole her childhood... That young girl was groomed by an adult with a motive, that’s why she’d like she is. Someone forced their opinions on her and got her to believe in them and then stand on a soap box as shock. People listened to the child as the adult couldn’t be heard. Like every single Christian in the world?? Yes absolutely but some to a lesser extent than others, the same applies here, you’re bang on. Except Christians aren’t berated for their lies, the money they take in taxes, being head of the country, yet the girl telling the facts is! " Again I agree with you, I have always maintained I don’t have issue with Greta, the people behind her however I do. | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?! If I remember correctly from my history lessons in school the affor mentioned cakes were actually bread rolls Aye bread is assumed (if the story is indeed true) https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/King-Alfred-the-Cakes/ Thanks I see the comment about scones and thought maybe I'm wrong, not for the first time
Anyway, back to the OP!!
Winchester is definitely NOT on the Somerset levels (where Alfred is said to have burnt the cakes / bread / scones so does that call into question how trustworthy Tom’s sources are!?!
Is this a game changer for the forums!?
Can we trust ANYTHING he says!? "Ahem, Somerset? Winchester? I would just like to promote the Sussex village of Alfriston (Alfred's town) as to the actual firery bake off. Apparently everything was too burnt to decide if Alf had scones or a bun in the oven | |||
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"Winchester University which is the town were King Alfred burnt his cakes, have paid 24k for a statue and now moving it onto a more secure plinth apparently because vandals may target it with paint. Waste of money or great value?" Waste of money, she drives a huge Mercedes SUV and has a small car colelction, the two faced cow | |||
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?! If I remember correctly from my history lessons in school the affor mentioned cakes were actually bread rolls Aye bread is assumed (if the story is indeed true) https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/King-Alfred-the-Cakes/ Thanks I see the comment about scones and thought maybe I'm wrong, not for the first time
Anyway, back to the OP!!
Winchester is definitely NOT on the Somerset levels (where Alfred is said to have burnt the cakes / bread / scones so does that call into question how trustworthy Tom’s sources are!?!
Is this a game changer for the forums!?
Can we trust ANYTHING he says!?
Ahem, Somerset? Winchester? I would just like to promote the Sussex village of Alfriston (Alfred's town) as to the actual firery bake off. Apparently everything was too burnt to decide if Alf had scones or a bun in the oven "It's supposedly on the Somerset Levels that old Alf burnt the cakes. Wheaten cakes, by all accounts. | |||
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"I can understand why her simplistic message appeals to children, but I don't fully understand why so many adults are such big fans when there are so many actual qualified scientists around to listen to. What I find particularly creepy is the veneration for this very young, vulnerable looking autistic woman from middle/older aged single men.
Bess x"Not from me I don't! Like many I've worked hard all my life,struggled sometimes to get by but everything I have has been earned by my own labours as it should be. To be lectured by,indoctrinated children, which is what's happening in many places of learning is nothing short of insulting and demeaning. Wanting this generation to provide a utopian future is wrong. | |||
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"I can understand why her simplistic message appeals to children, but I don't fully understand why so many adults are such big fans when there are so many actual qualified scientists around to listen to. What I find particularly creepy is the veneration for this very young, vulnerable looking autistic woman from middle/older aged single men.
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Not from me I don't!
Like many I've worked hard all my life,struggled sometimes to get by but everything I have has been earned by my own labours as it should be.
To be lectured by,indoctrinated children, which is what's happening in many places of learning is nothing short of insulting and demeaning.
Wanting this generation to provide a utopian future is wrong."She's not a child. She's 20 years old now. People seem to have forgotten that she is now older than she was when she started campaigning at the age of 14. | |||
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"she should get a jump and learn something about life in the real world" Eh? | |||
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"I can understand why her simplistic message appeals to children, but I don't fully understand why so many adults are such big fans when there are so many actual qualified scientists around to listen to. What I find particularly creepy is the veneration for this very young, vulnerable looking autistic woman from middle/older aged single men.
Bess x"The scientists are who she’s listening to! Vast majority agree with her! | |||
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"I can understand why her simplistic message appeals to children, but I don't fully understand why so many adults are such big fans when there are so many actual qualified scientists around to listen to. What I find particularly creepy is the veneration for this very young, vulnerable looking autistic woman from middle/older aged single men.
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Not from me I don't!
Like many I've worked hard all my life,struggled sometimes to get by but everything I have has been earned by my own labours as it should be.
To be lectured by,indoctrinated children, which is what's happening in many places of learning is nothing short of insulting and demeaning.
Wanting this generation to provide a utopian future is wrong."She has my full respect! X | |||
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"I saw a sticker in the back of a car the other day that said... Global warming is just weather! Which goes in cycles. When I was in my teens they were trying to scare us with a new ice age that was on the horizon. Unfortunately records only really go back a hundred years or so. Statue? Bit old fashioned isn't it? " Records go WAY further back than 100yrs. 100yrs ago was 1923. | |||
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"I can understand why her simplistic message appeals to children, but I don't fully understand why so many adults are such big fans when there are so many actual qualified scientists around to listen to. What I find particularly creepy is the veneration for this very young, vulnerable looking autistic woman from middle/older aged single men.
Bess x
Not from me I don't!
Like many I've worked hard all my life,struggled sometimes to get by but everything I have has been earned by my own labours as it should be.
To be lectured by,indoctrinated children, which is what's happening in many places of learning is nothing short of insulting and demeaning.
Wanting this generation to provide a utopian future is wrong.
She's not a child. She's 20 years old now. People seem to have forgotten that she is now older than she was when she started campaigning at the age of 14. "14 = a child | |||
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"I can understand why her simplistic message appeals to children, but I don't fully understand why so many adults are such big fans when there are so many actual qualified scientists around to listen to. What I find particularly creepy is the veneration for this very young, vulnerable looking autistic woman from middle/older aged single men.
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Not from me I don't!
Like many I've worked hard all my life,struggled sometimes to get by but everything I have has been earned by my own labours as it should be.
To be lectured by,indoctrinated children, which is what's happening in many places of learning is nothing short of insulting and demeaning.
Wanting this generation to provide a utopian future is wrong.
She's not a child. She's 20 years old now. People seem to have forgotten that she is now older than she was when she started campaigning at the age of 14.
14 = a child"Indeed, but she is no longer a child. Today, in 2023, she is an adult. | |||
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"I can understand why her simplistic message appeals to children, but I don't fully understand why so many adults are such big fans when there are so many actual qualified scientists around to listen to. What I find particularly creepy is the veneration for this very young, vulnerable looking autistic woman from middle/older aged single men.
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Not from me I don't!
Like many I've worked hard all my life,struggled sometimes to get by but everything I have has been earned by my own labours as it should be.
To be lectured by,indoctrinated children, which is what's happening in many places of learning is nothing short of insulting and demeaning.
Wanting this generation to provide a utopian future is wrong.
She's not a child. She's 20 years old now. People seem to have forgotten that she is now older than she was when she started campaigning at the age of 14.
14 = a child
Indeed, but she is no longer a child. Today, in 2023, she is an adult. "Maybe she is, however at 14,as a child, she was lecturing the rest of the world how to run their lives. | |||
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"I saw a sticker in the back of a car the other day that said... Global warming is just weather! Which goes in cycles. When I was in my teens they were trying to scare us with a new ice age that was on the horizon. Unfortunately records only really go back a hundred years or so. Statue? Bit old fashioned isn't it? Records go WAY further back than 100yrs. 100yrs ago was 1923." 1850 records go back to 1850. That year we had a mini ice age. The Thames iced over in Central London people were able to skate on it. | |||
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"I saw a sticker in the back of a car the other day that said... Global warming is just weather! Which goes in cycles. When I was in my teens they were trying to scare us with a new ice age that was on the horizon. Unfortunately records only really go back a hundred years or so. Statue? Bit old fashioned isn't it? Records go WAY further back than 100yrs. 100yrs ago was 1923. 1850 records go back to 1850. That year we had a mini ice age. The Thames iced over in Central London people were able to skate on it." 1850 is a very long time ago, isn't it? Before the profileration of cars, the mass extraction and burning of fossil fuels, the invention of plastics and the level of consumerism we see now. It was only 20-30yrs after the Industrial Revolution took off in earnest. We're reaping the consequences of the following 173 years of human activity. | |||
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"I saw a sticker in the back of a car the other day that said... Global warming is just weather! Which goes in cycles. When I was in my teens they were trying to scare us with a new ice age that was on the horizon. Unfortunately records only really go back a hundred years or so. Statue? Bit old fashioned isn't it? Records go WAY further back than 100yrs. 100yrs ago was 1923. 1850 records go back to 1850. That year we had a mini ice age. The Thames iced over in Central London people were able to skate on it. 1850 is a very long time ago, isn't it? Before the profileration of cars, the mass extraction and burning of fossil fuels, the invention of plastics and the level of consumerism we see now. It was only 20-30yrs after the Industrial Revolution took off in earnest. We're reaping the consequences of the following 173 years of human activity. " A volcano will throw out more to damage the planet in a day or two than man has ever done. I've no doubt exhaust fumes etc damage human life but many are just sheep. It's just another route to taxation. Same as the ozone layer was a few years ago. If a climate scientist can't find a problem, he's out of work. A 150 years is nothing in the cycle of the planet. | |||
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"I saw a sticker in the back of a car the other day that said... Global warming is just weather! Which goes in cycles. When I was in my teens they were trying to scare us with a new ice age that was on the horizon. Unfortunately records only really go back a hundred years or so. Statue? Bit old fashioned isn't it? " How far do you reckon ice core data goes? | |||
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"I saw a sticker in the back of a car the other day that said... Global warming is just weather! Which goes in cycles. When I was in my teens they were trying to scare us with a new ice age that was on the horizon. Unfortunately records only really go back a hundred years or so. Statue? Bit old fashioned isn't it? How far do you reckon ice core data goes? " Not very far....it's all melting isn't it? | |||
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"I saw a sticker in the back of a car the other day that said... Global warming is just weather! Which goes in cycles. When I was in my teens they were trying to scare us with a new ice age that was on the horizon. Unfortunately records only really go back a hundred years or so. Statue? Bit old fashioned isn't it? Records go WAY further back than 100yrs. 100yrs ago was 1923. 1850 records go back to 1850. That year we had a mini ice age. The Thames iced over in Central London people were able to skate on it. 1850 is a very long time ago, isn't it? Before the profileration of cars, the mass extraction and burning of fossil fuels, the invention of plastics and the level of consumerism we see now. It was only 20-30yrs after the Industrial Revolution took off in earnest. We're reaping the consequences of the following 173 years of human activity. " I simply said how far records go back. | |||
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"I saw a sticker in the back of a car the other day that said... Global warming is just weather! Which goes in cycles. When I was in my teens they were trying to scare us with a new ice age that was on the horizon. Unfortunately records only really go back a hundred years or so. Statue? Bit old fashioned isn't it? Records go WAY further back than 100yrs. 100yrs ago was 1923. 1850 records go back to 1850. That year we had a mini ice age. The Thames iced over in Central London people were able to skate on it. 1850 is a very long time ago, isn't it? Before the profileration of cars, the mass extraction and burning of fossil fuels, the invention of plastics and the level of consumerism we see now. It was only 20-30yrs after the Industrial Revolution took off in earnest. We're reaping the consequences of the following 173 years of human activity. I simply said how far records go back. "The Central England Temperature Data Series goes back to 1659 and there is written evidence of earlier climate and weather phenomena. We can also calculate likely climatic conditions from the past, based on things like tree ring data, ice core data etc. | |||
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"Nothing like seeing how lovely the British public can be...
With some exceptions it seems the hate mainly is coming from men.
Small Dick Energy was the expression she used with Andrew Tate. Hmmmm I wonder
And here we see the classic play the man and not the ball mentality typical of that side of the aisle"You see, by playing the ball, you give it legitimacy. I'm not going to legitimise idiocy and those that espouse it. | |||
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"Nothing like seeing how lovely the British public can be...
With some exceptions it seems the hate mainly is coming from men.
Small Dick Energy was the expression she used with Andrew Tate. Hmmmm I wonder
And here we see the classic play the man and not the ball mentality typical of that side of the aisle"Her body shaming technique was applauded. Imagine if she was accused of gapping fanny energy or ugly munter energy? Not sure that would be tolerated. | |||
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"Nothing like seeing how lovely the British public can be...
With some exceptions it seems the hate mainly is coming from men.
Small Dick Energy was the expression she used with Andrew Tate. Hmmmm I wonder
And here we see the classic play the man and not the ball mentality typical of that side of the aisle
Her body shaming technique was applauded. Imagine if she was accused of gapping fanny energy or ugly munter energy?
Not sure that would be tolerated."And especy as she is only a child | |||
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"Nothing like seeing how lovely the British public can be...
With some exceptions it seems the hate mainly is coming from men.
Small Dick Energy was the expression she used with Andrew Tate. Hmmmm I wonder
And here we see the classic play the man and not the ball mentality typical of that side of the aisle
Her body shaming technique was applauded. Imagine if she was accused of gapping fanny energy or ugly munter energy?
Not sure that would be tolerated."I know I sound like a child myself - but Tate started it. He was looking for a rise and he got owned. | |||
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"Greta is 14 or 15 or 16.. Cut some slack here guys " She's 20, Tom. | |||
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With some exceptions it seems the hate mainly is coming from men.
Small Dick Energy was the expression she used with Andrew Tate. Hmmmm I wonder
And here we see the classic play the man and not the ball mentality typical of that side of the aisle
Her body shaming technique was applauded. Imagine if she was accused of gapping fanny energy or ugly munter energy?
Not sure that would be tolerated.
I know I sound like a child myself - but Tate started it. He was looking for a rise and he got owned. "Not really, she just lowered herself to his level. | |||
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"Is she even an adult,?" Yes. She's an adult. | |||
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"Is she even an adult,? Yes. She's an adult. " Really ,? | |||
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"Is she even an adult,? Yes. She's an adult. Really ,?" It's in the news | |||
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"Is she even an adult,? Yes. She's an adult. Really ,? It's in the news" Surely she is 14 or not much more ? | |||
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"Is she even an adult,? Yes. She's an adult. Really ,? It's in the news Surely she is 14 or not much more ?" She was... 6 years ago. | |||
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"Nothing like seeing how lovely the British public can be...
With some exceptions it seems the hate mainly is coming from men.
Small Dick Energy was the expression she used with Andrew Tate. Hmmmm I wonder
And here we see the classic play the man and not the ball mentality typical of that side of the aisle
Her body shaming technique was applauded. Imagine if she was accused of gapping fanny energy or ugly munter energy?
Not sure that would be tolerated.
I know I sound like a child myself - but Tate started it. He was looking for a rise and he got owned.
Not really, she just lowered herself to his level."Perhaps. I laughed. | |||
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"I have a copy of her wholly ghost-written "the climate book" and even though I totally agree with the science, the principle and what humanity as a species should be doing to combat it - I think she is a shameless self- promotionist. You want the human race to give up fossile fuel you should divert all the airtime for Greta to Kirk Sorensen. Get Thorium power stations online now." I am bemused by this as she doesn't claim to have written all of it. It's clearly described as a collective work of 100+ experts. | |||
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"I have a copy of her wholly ghost-written "the climate book" and even though I totally agree with the science, the principle and what humanity as a species should be doing to combat it - I think she is a shameless self- promotionist. You want the human race to give up fossile fuel you should divert all the airtime for Greta to Kirk Sorensen. Get Thorium power stations online now. I am bemused by this as she doesn't claim to have written all of it. It's clearly described as a collective work of 100+ experts. " 100 different opinions presumably | |||
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"I have a copy of her wholly ghost-written "the climate book" and even though I totally agree with the science, the principle and what humanity as a species should be doing to combat it - I think she is a shameless self- promotionist. You want the human race to give up fossile fuel you should divert all the airtime for Greta to Kirk Sorensen. Get Thorium power stations online now. I am bemused by this as she doesn't claim to have written all of it. It's clearly described as a collective work of 100+ experts. 100 different opinions presumably " The Amazon blurb "In The Climate Book, Greta Thunberg has gathered the wisdom of over one hundred experts - geophysicists, oceanographers and meteorologists; engineers, economists and mathematicians; historians, philosophers and indigenous leaders - to equip us all with the knowledge we need to combat climate disaster. Alongside them, she shares her own stories of demonstrating and uncovering greenwashing around the world, revealing how much we have been kept in the dark." | |||
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"Nothing like seeing how lovely the British public can be...
With some exceptions it seems the hate mainly is coming from men.
Small Dick Energy was the expression she used with Andrew Tate. Hmmmm I wonder
And here we see the classic play the man and not the ball mentality typical of that side of the aisle
You see, by playing the ball, you give it legitimacy. I'm not going to legitimise idiocy and those that espouse it.
"Or more likely you simply can't play the ball. Even if the shaman of our times hadnt been caught out repeatedly using dodgy manipulated data to further the narrative; their demonstrable actions make it absolutely clear that their position is at best self interested, at worst genocidal. There are answers to CO2. If that is indeed the problem. But funnily enough those aren't the things we are doing. Alternative RELIABLE energy is the answer. Thorium has already been mentioned but even standard uranium fission at this stage would be a perfectly fine alternative. But no, that would be an actual solution to the energy crisis wouldn't it. Can't be having that. Not when there's more research grants to be obtained strapping thermometers to asphalt heatsinks at the airports. There are answers to excessive consumption. If that is indeed the problem. But those who seek to collect their awards never seem to find the climate sufficiently important to do it via Zoom. No, the answer is simply to immiserate in the short term and frankly to decimate in the long term. The aims of this lobby cannot be achieved via the tactics being employed without mass deaths being the inevitable collateral damage. And between the shysters making bank on manipulation and authoritarianism, and the actual working people who will suffer for their enrichment there are the class of the useful idiot, like some I could mention. Those who will haughtily pronounce their superiority by assuring us all that it's right and good that people are stripped of their rights and freedoms, and it's necessary, essential even that Tracy the care worker be prized out of her Ford Fiesta she uses to get to her care job because otherwise we'll all burn in eternal hellfire. And that it must be true, and right, and your virtue is assured because a popular Hollywood star told you so, right before collecting his hat that he helicoptered in lest he be seen without it on the red carpet. Is that playing the man enough? | |||
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"Do we have reliable and safe ways to dispose of nuclear waste from reactors, across the world? Do we have enough nuclear fuel to power the whole world, because the world needs to reduce CO2, not just a few countries. " Actually yes. We do. Reprocessing technology has reduced the volume of waste hugely since the bad old days of 3 mile island. And we have long had the technology to store it securely. What does anyone suppose we do with the material that is produced by the reactors we currently have? The fuel question, well it's a finite resource like anything else. Just like the lithium and cobalt in the batteries of the cars we will be forced to buy in the next few years. How long will it last? Who can say. Like any other mineral deposit there is X amount of it in existence, Y amount of it discovered and Y approaches X at a rate of Z. Or more accurately, that the privileged will have the chance to buy. Everyone else will be back to the transportation technological level of 1890. And let us not pretend for a second that the renewables industry is without its waste problems. Do you know how many toxic compounds go into the photovoltaic cell? And the amount of energy generated over the lifespan of the product compared to the ecological damage of disposal. All energy technologies have their dirty secrets. But SOME of them actually work. Pragmatism demands a balance of those things. But pragmatism is a practice designed for those who want good outcomes. A zealot has no use for it. | |||
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"Do we have reliable and safe ways to dispose of nuclear waste from reactors, across the world? Do we have enough nuclear fuel to power the whole world, because the world needs to reduce CO2, not just a few countries. Actually yes. We do. Reprocessing technology has reduced the volume of waste hugely since the bad old days of 3 mile island. And we have long had the technology to store it securely. What does anyone suppose we do with the material that is produced by the reactors we currently have? The fuel question, well it's a finite resource like anything else. Just like the lithium and cobalt in the batteries of the cars we will be forced to buy in the next few years. How long will it last? Who can say. Like any other mineral deposit there is X amount of it in existence, Y amount of it discovered and Y approaches X at a rate of Z. Or more accurately, that the privileged will have the chance to buy. Everyone else will be back to the transportation technological level of 1890. And let us not pretend for a second that the renewables industry is without its waste problems. Do you know how many toxic compounds go into the photovoltaic cell? And the amount of energy generated over the lifespan of the product compared to the ecological damage of disposal. All energy technologies have their dirty secrets. But SOME of them actually work. Pragmatism demands a balance of those things. But pragmatism is a practice designed for those who want good outcomes. A zealot has no use for it. "
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"Do we have reliable and safe ways to dispose of nuclear waste from reactors, across the world? Do we have enough nuclear fuel to power the whole world, because the world needs to reduce CO2, not just a few countries. Actually yes. We do. Reprocessing technology has reduced the volume of waste hugely since the bad old days of 3 mile island. And we have long had the technology to store it securely. What does anyone suppose we do with the material that is produced by the reactors we currently have? The fuel question, well it's a finite resource like anything else. Just like the lithium and cobalt in the batteries of the cars we will be forced to buy in the next few years. How long will it last? Who can say. Like any other mineral deposit there is X amount of it in existence, Y amount of it discovered and Y approaches X at a rate of Z. Or more accurately, that the privileged will have the chance to buy. Everyone else will be back to the transportation technological level of 1890. And let us not pretend for a second that the renewables industry is without its waste problems. Do you know how many toxic compounds go into the photovoltaic cell? And the amount of energy generated over the lifespan of the product compared to the ecological damage of disposal. All energy technologies have their dirty secrets. But SOME of them actually work. Pragmatism demands a balance of those things. But pragmatism is a practice designed for those who want good outcomes. A zealot has no use for it.
I quite like horses, actually. I might have to buy one. "Better look at bicycles. Food is going to be at a premium once carbon becomes less fashionable and we have to move on to Nitrogen as the current thing. Though I agree they are beautiful :D | |||
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"Do we have reliable and safe ways to dispose of nuclear waste from reactors, across the world? Do we have enough nuclear fuel to power the whole world, because the world needs to reduce CO2, not just a few countries. Actually yes. We do. Reprocessing technology has reduced the volume of waste hugely since the bad old days of 3 mile island. And we have long had the technology to store it securely. What does anyone suppose we do with the material that is produced by the reactors we currently have? The fuel question, well it's a finite resource like anything else. Just like the lithium and cobalt in the batteries of the cars we will be forced to buy in the next few years. How long will it last? Who can say. Like any other mineral deposit there is X amount of it in existence, Y amount of it discovered and Y approaches X at a rate of Z. Or more accurately, that the privileged will have the chance to buy. Everyone else will be back to the transportation technological level of 1890. And let us not pretend for a second that the renewables industry is without its waste problems. Do you know how many toxic compounds go into the photovoltaic cell? And the amount of energy generated over the lifespan of the product compared to the ecological damage of disposal. All energy technologies have their dirty secrets. But SOME of them actually work. Pragmatism demands a balance of those things. But pragmatism is a practice designed for those who want good outcomes. A zealot has no use for it.
I quite like horses, actually. I might have to buy one.
Better look at bicycles. Food is going to be at a premium once carbon becomes less fashionable and we have to move on to Nitrogen as the current thing.
Though I agree they are beautiful :D "I'm no longer able to ride a bicycle. But with some help, I can get on a horse and once I'm on, I'm fine. I'll buy myself a lovely carriage and do my weekly shop on 1 hp | |||
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"Do we have reliable and safe ways to dispose of nuclear waste from reactors, across the world? Do we have enough nuclear fuel to power the whole world, because the world needs to reduce CO2, not just a few countries. " Yes, in fact Thorium reactors use almost 100% of the energy in the fuel, as opposed to less than 0.5% in LWR and HWR Uranium reactors today. There's nothing in the decay chain that can be used to make weapons, the very little waste it does produce has a half-life of 300 years, not tens of thousands and they can even be used to take existing waste from old reactors and burn it up to make more energy. It doesn't need processing, it's literally everywhere and we will never run out of this stuff. It is simply too common. https://youtu.be/uK367T7h6ZY | |||
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"Do we have reliable and safe ways to dispose of nuclear waste from reactors, across the world? Do we have enough nuclear fuel to power the whole world, because the world needs to reduce CO2, not just a few countries. Actually yes. We do. Reprocessing technology has reduced the volume of waste hugely since the bad old days of 3 mile island. And we have long had the technology to store it securely. What does anyone suppose we do with the material that is produced by the reactors we currently have? The fuel question, well it's a finite resource like anything else. Just like the lithium and cobalt in the batteries of the cars we will be forced to buy in the next few years. How long will it last? Who can say. Like any other mineral deposit there is X amount of it in existence, Y amount of it discovered and Y approaches X at a rate of Z. Or more accurately, that the privileged will have the chance to buy. Everyone else will be back to the transportation technological level of 1890. And let us not pretend for a second that the renewables industry is without its waste problems. Do you know how many toxic compounds go into the photovoltaic cell? And the amount of energy generated over the lifespan of the product compared to the ecological damage of disposal. All energy technologies have their dirty secrets. But SOME of them actually work. Pragmatism demands a balance of those things. But pragmatism is a practice designed for those who want good outcomes. A zealot has no use for it.
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"I couldn't care less what they do with their money to be completely honest. This. More interested in the type of cake's King Alfred burnt?! If I remember correctly from my history lessons in school the affor mentioned cakes were actually bread rolls Aye bread is assumed (if the story is indeed true) https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/King-Alfred-the-Cakes/ Thanks I see the comment about scones and thought maybe I'm wrong, not for the first time
Anyway, back to the OP!!
Winchester is definitely NOT on the Somerset levels (where Alfred is said to have burnt the cakes / bread / scones so does that call into question how trustworthy Tom’s sources are!?!
Is this a game changer for the forums!?
Can we trust ANYTHING he says!?
Ahem, Somerset? Winchester? I would just like to promote the Sussex village of Alfriston (Alfred's town) as to the actual firery bake off. Apparently everything was too burnt to decide if Alf had scones or a bun in the oven "I always thought said baking incident took place in the Somerset levels | |||
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"She's doing what she thinks is right. One half of the world complains that young people should get off social media and do something. The other half complain when young people get off social media and do something. Or...is it the same half? "Exactly Is one thing to not like her but the amount of vile and nasty comments people make are uncalled for You never see people speaking about men like this | |||
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Is one thing to not like her but the amount of vile and nasty comments people make are uncalled for
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"She's doing what she thinks is right. One half of the world complains that young people should get off social media and do something. The other half complain when young people get off social media and do something. Or...is it the same half?
Exactly
Is one thing to not like her but the amount of vile and nasty comments people make are uncalled for
You never see people speaking about men like this
Really? Like Boris Johnson, Donald trump, Nigel farage, joe Biden, this list could go on ad infinitum. "Do people make threats of sexual violence against the above men? Threaten to r*** them? Because that happens to Greta all the time. | |||
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"She's doing what she thinks is right. One half of the world complains that young people should get off social media and do something. The other half complain when young people get off social media and do something. Or...is it the same half?
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Is one thing to not like her but the amount of vile and nasty comments people make are uncalled for
You never see people speaking about men like this
Really? Like Boris Johnson, Donald trump, Nigel farage, joe Biden, this list could go on ad infinitum.
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts!" Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? | |||
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Is one thing to not like her but the amount of vile and nasty comments people make are uncalled for
You never see people speaking about men like this
Really? Like Boris Johnson, Donald trump, Nigel farage, joe Biden, this list could go on ad infinitum.
Do people make threats of sexual violence against the above men? Threaten to r*** them? Because that happens to Greta all the time.
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? " Aren't there statues of George Floyd? And Christopher Columbus? | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? " There are lots of statues of criminals in their time. Mrs Pankhurst is rightly celebrated in St Peter's Square in Manchester, but she and other suffragettes were criminalised at the time. Should we tear down Mrs Pankhurst? | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? There are lots of statues of criminals in their time. Mrs Pankhurst is rightly celebrated in St Peter's Square in Manchester, but she and other suffragettes were criminalised at the time. Should we tear down Mrs Pankhurst? " Mrs Pankhurst should be in the river with Mrs Thunderburg | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dr…. There are lots of statues of criminals in their time. Mrs Pankhurst is rightly celebrated in St Peter's Square in Manchester, but she and other suffragettes were criminalised at the time. Should we tear down Mrs Pankhurst? " I fucking love this reply. | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? There are lots of statues of criminals in their time. Mrs Pankhurst is rightly celebrated in St Peter's Square in Manchester, but she and other suffragettes were criminalised at the time. Should we tear down Mrs Pankhurst? Mrs Pankhurst should be in the river with Mrs Thunderburg " | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? " Should we have statues of suffragettes, if they had criminal records? Emmeline Pankhurst was arrested 9 times, for example. | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? Should we have statues of suffragettes, if they had criminal records? Emmeline Pankhurst was arrested 9 times, for example. " After her bombing and arson campaign she deserved hard prison time. | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? There are lots of statues of criminals in their time. Mrs Pankhurst is rightly celebrated in St Peter's Square in Manchester, but she and other suffragettes were criminalised at the time. Should we tear down Mrs Pankhurst? " Absolutely yes. | |||
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"She's doing what she thinks is right. One half of the world complains that young people should get off social media and do something. The other half complain when young people get off social media and do something. Or...is it the same half?
Exactly
Is one thing to not like her but the amount of vile and nasty comments people make are uncalled for
You never see people speaking about men like this
Really? Like Boris Johnson, Donald trump, Nigel farage, joe Biden, this list could go on ad infinitum.
Do people make threats of sexual violence against the above men? Threaten to r*** them? Because that happens to Greta all the time.
Don’t know about the sex threats but violence and murder all the time yes.
It's not where near the extent that women receive and you know it "Really? Are you really saying that Donald trump wasn’t the butt of half the worlds vitriol for four years. He might have deserved it mind you. | |||
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"She's doing what she thinks is right. One half of the world complains that young people should get off social media and do something. The other half complain when young people get off social media and do something. Or...is it the same half?
Exactly
Is one thing to not like her but the amount of vile and nasty comments people make are uncalled for
You never see people speaking about men like this
Really? Like Boris Johnson, Donald trump, Nigel farage, joe Biden, this list could go on ad infinitum.
Do people make threats of sexual violence against the above men? Threaten to r*** them? Because that happens to Greta all the time.
Don’t know about the sex threats but violence and murder all the time yes.
It's not where near the extent that women receive and you know it
Really? Are you really saying that Donald trump wasn’t the butt of half the worlds vitriol for four years. He might have deserved it mind you.
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"She's doing what she thinks is right. One half of the world complains that young people should get off social media and do something. The other half complain when young people get off social media and do something. Or...is it the same half?
Exactly
Is one thing to not like her but the amount of vile and nasty comments people make are uncalled for
You never see people speaking about men like this
Really? Like Boris Johnson, Donald trump, Nigel farage, joe Biden, this list could go on ad infinitum.
Do people make threats of sexual violence against the above men? Threaten to r*** them? Because that happens to Greta all the time.
Don’t know about the sex threats but violence and murder all the time yes.
It's not where near the extent that women receive and you know it
Really? Are you really saying that Donald trump wasn’t the butt of half the worlds vitriol for four years. He might have deserved it mind you.
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"She's doing what she thinks is right. One half of the world complains that young people should get off social media and do something. The other half complain when young people get off social media and do something. Or...is it the same half?
Exactly
Is one thing to not like her but the amount of vile and nasty comments people make are uncalled for
You never see people speaking about men like this
Really? Like Boris Johnson, Donald trump, Nigel farage, joe Biden, this list could go on ad infinitum.
Do people make threats of sexual violence against the above men? Threaten to r*** them? Because that happens to Greta all the time.
Don’t know about the sex threats but violence and murder all the time yes.
It's not where near the extent that women receive and you know it
Really? Are you really saying that Donald trump wasn’t the butt of half the worlds vitriol for four years. He might have deserved it mind you.
Really, he got threatened with sexual assault a lot, did he?"Does butt fuck count as r4pe? I thought the majority of threats was murder and torture… | |||
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"She's doing what she thinks is right. One half of the world complains that young people should get off social media and do something. The other half complain when young people get off social media and do something. Or...is it the same half?
Exactly
Is one thing to not like her but the amount of vile and nasty comments people make are uncalled for
You never see people speaking about men like this
Really? Like Boris Johnson, Donald trump, Nigel farage, joe Biden, this list could go on ad infinitum.
Do people make threats of sexual violence against the above men? Threaten to r*** them? Because that happens to Greta all the time.
Don’t know about the sex threats but violence and murder all the time yes.
It's not where near the extent that women receive and you know it
Really? Are you really saying that Donald trump wasn’t the butt of half the worlds vitriol for four years. He might have deserved it mind you.
Really, he got threatened with sexual assault a lot, did he?
Does butt fuck count as r4pe?
I thought the majority of threats was murder and torture…
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"Do we have reliable and safe ways to dispose of nuclear waste from reactors, across the world? Do we have enough nuclear fuel to power the whole world, because the world needs to reduce CO2, not just a few countries. Actually yes. We do. Reprocessing technology has reduced the volume of waste hugely since the bad old days of 3 mile island. And we have long had the technology to store it securely. What does anyone suppose we do with the material that is produced by the reactors we currently have? The fuel question, well it's a finite resource like anything else. Just like the lithium and cobalt in the batteries of the cars we will be forced to buy in the next few years. How long will it last? Who can say. Like any other mineral deposit there is X amount of it in existence, Y amount of it discovered and Y approaches X at a rate of Z. Or more accurately, that the privileged will have the chance to buy. Everyone else will be back to the transportation technological level of 1890. And let us not pretend for a second that the renewables industry is without its waste problems. Do you know how many toxic compounds go into the photovoltaic cell? And the amount of energy generated over the lifespan of the product compared to the ecological damage of disposal. All energy technologies have their dirty secrets. But SOME of them actually work. Pragmatism demands a balance of those things. But pragmatism is a practice designed for those who want good outcomes. A zealot has no use for it.
I quite like horses, actually. I might have to buy one.
Better look at bicycles. Food is going to be at a premium once carbon becomes less fashionable and we have to move on to Nitrogen as the current thing.
Though I agree they are beautiful :D "so are some carbon bikes. Horses do emit CO2 and shit all over the road. They are one of the few large animals/pets that can be immune from the street fouling laws. | |||
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"Please let this post die… Greta is now an adult. She was an irritating precocious little brat and now she is a little older but still behaving like a twat. If we need to do anything about climate change, it is to stop breeding. It is not the size of our carbon footprint alone that matters but the number of feet! Do the maths…" Oh that will fix the climate problems for sure. And so easy to implement. | |||
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"Please let this post die… Greta is now an adult. She was an irritating precocious little brat and now she is a little older but still behaving like a twat. If we need to do anything about climate change, it is to stop breeding. It is not the size of our carbon footprint alone that matters but the number of feet! Do the maths…"
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? There are lots of statues of criminals in their time. Mrs Pankhurst is rightly celebrated in St Peter's Square in Manchester, but she and other suffragettes were criminalised at the time. Should we tear down Mrs Pankhurst? Absolutely yes." Why? | |||
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"Please let this post die… Greta is now an adult. She was an irritating precocious little brat and now she is a little older but still behaving like a twat. If we need to do anything about climate change, it is to stop breeding. It is not the size of our carbon footprint alone that matters but the number of feet! Do the maths… Oh that will fix the climate problems for sure. And so easy to implement. "I never said it was easy to implement but That’s what is needed, which is why those fucktards gluing their hands to the floor are wasting our time. Pretending that a life without oil is possible is sooo foolish. Oil refineries supply many product streams and so unless people plan to sit at home in hemp loin cloths growing potatoes in their gardens that have been converted to allotments, I would really love to see how they think that we would become carbon neutral. Basic chemical equation balancing in GCSE tells you that. If these eco warrior pretenders actually have a plan, I would love to hear it but they don’t… they are simply shouting like the religious fanatics… don’t know what they want but are willing to die for it… but unlike religious fanatics, they may not want to die for the cause, they may be prepared to simply give up their skinny latte or use a recycled cup. | |||
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"Please let this post die… Greta is now an adult. She was an irritating precocious little brat and now she is a little older but still behaving like a twat. If we need to do anything about climate change, it is to stop breeding. It is not the size of our carbon footprint alone that matters but the number of feet! Do the maths… Oh that will fix the climate problems for sure. And so easy to implement.
I never said it was easy to implement but That’s what is needed, which is why those fucktards gluing their hands to the floor are wasting our time.
Pretending that a life without oil is possible is sooo foolish. Oil refineries supply many product streams and so unless people plan to sit at home in hemp loin cloths growing potatoes in their gardens that have been converted to allotments, I would really love to see how they think that we would become carbon neutral. Basic chemical equation balancing in GCSE tells you that.
If these eco warrior pretenders actually have a plan, I would love to hear it but they don’t… they are simply shouting like the religious fanatics… don’t know what they want but are willing to die for it… but unlike religious fanatics, they may not want to die for the cause, they may be prepared to simply give up their skinny latte or use a recycled cup."So, gosh, who to believe about climate change? The 196 countries who signed The Paris agreement focussed on reducing greenhouse emissions so the global temperature increase is limited to 1.5 degrees. (Pretty much all climate scientists agree that reduction in use of fossil fuels is a priority) OR some bloke on Fab who says we should stop breeding. So tricky. | |||
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"Please let this post die… Greta is now an adult. She was an irritating precocious little brat and now she is a little older but still behaving like a twat. If we need to do anything about climate change, it is to stop breeding. It is not the size of our carbon footprint alone that matters but the number of feet! Do the maths… Oh that will fix the climate problems for sure. And so easy to implement.
I never said it was easy to implement but That’s what is needed, which is why those fucktards gluing their hands to the floor are wasting our time.
Pretending that a life without oil is possible is sooo foolish. Oil refineries supply many product streams and so unless people plan to sit at home in hemp loin cloths growing potatoes in their gardens that have been converted to allotments, I would really love to see how they think that we would become carbon neutral. Basic chemical equation balancing in GCSE tells you that.
If these eco warrior pretenders actually have a plan, I would love to hear it but they don’t… they are simply shouting like the religious fanatics… don’t know what they want but are willing to die for it… but unlike religious fanatics, they may not want to die for the cause, they may be prepared to simply give up their skinny latte or use a recycled cup.
So, gosh, who to believe about climate change? The 196 countries who signed The Paris agreement focussed on reducing greenhouse emissions so the global temperature increase is limited to 1.5 degrees. (Pretty much all climate scientists agree that reduction in use of fossil fuels is a priority) OR some bloke on Fab who says we should stop breeding. So tricky. "Hmmmm? Politicians or science … always a tricky choice. A bit like transgender in sport… politics or science… eventually science wins out. Love your reference to the Paris Accord though… we live in a country that buys massive quantities of products from China and Other Asian markets that laugh in the face of the targets… and let’s be clear, those who nodded sagaciously in Paris were then nodding again in Glasgow two years ago… Climate Procrastination and Masturbation, they both feel good but produce very little. As I said, trust the politicians if you want… I will follow the money and the science. | |||
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"Please let this post die… Greta is now an adult. She was an irritating precocious little brat and now she is a little older but still behaving like a twat. If we need to do anything about climate change, it is to stop breeding. It is not the size of our carbon footprint alone that matters but the number of feet! Do the maths… Oh that will fix the climate problems for sure. And so easy to implement.
I never said it was easy to implement but That’s what is needed, which is why those fucktards gluing their hands to the floor are wasting our time.
Pretending that a life without oil is possible is sooo foolish. Oil refineries supply many product streams and so unless people plan to sit at home in hemp loin cloths growing potatoes in their gardens that have been converted to allotments, I would really love to see how they think that we would become carbon neutral. Basic chemical equation balancing in GCSE tells you that.
If these eco warrior pretenders actually have a plan, I would love to hear it but they don’t… they are simply shouting like the religious fanatics… don’t know what they want but are willing to die for it… but unlike religious fanatics, they may not want to die for the cause, they may be prepared to simply give up their skinny latte or use a recycled cup.
So, gosh, who to believe about climate change? The 196 countries who signed The Paris agreement focussed on reducing greenhouse emissions so the global temperature increase is limited to 1.5 degrees. (Pretty much all climate scientists agree that reduction in use of fossil fuels is a priority) OR some bloke on Fab who says we should stop breeding. So tricky.
Hmmmm? Politicians or science … always a tricky choice.
A bit like transgender in sport… politics or science… eventually science wins out.
Love your reference to the Paris Accord though… we live in a country that buys massive quantities of products from China and Other Asian markets that laugh in the face of the targets… and let’s be clear, those who nodded sagaciously in Paris were then nodding again in Glasgow two years ago… Climate Procrastination and Masturbation, they both feel good but produce very little.
As I said, trust the politicians if you want… I will follow the money and the science.
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"Winchester University which is the town were King Alfred burnt his cakes, have paid 24k for a statue and now moving it onto a more secure plinth apparently because vandals may target it with paint. Waste of money or great value?" Waste of money. C | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? There are lots of statues of criminals in their time. Mrs Pankhurst is rightly celebrated in St Peter's Square in Manchester, but she and other suffragettes were criminalised at the time. Should we tear down Mrs Pankhurst? Absolutely yes. Why?" “led by key WSPU figures such as Emmeline Pankhurst, targeted infrastructure, government, churches and the general public, and saw the use of improvised explosive devices, arson, letter bombs, assassination attempts and other forms of direct action and violence.” Sounds lovely, let’s build a statue to a terrorist. | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? There are lots of statues of criminals in their time. Mrs Pankhurst is rightly celebrated in St Peter's Square in Manchester, but she and other suffragettes were criminalised at the time. Should we tear down Mrs Pankhurst? Absolutely yes. Why? “led by key WSPU figures such as Emmeline Pankhurst, targeted infrastructure, government, churches and the general public, and saw the use of improvised explosive devices, arson, letter bombs, assassination attempts and other forms of direct action and violence.” Sounds lovely, let’s build a statue to a terrorist." They tried asking nicely but all the men said no, fuck off back to the kitchen, luv. So they changed tack. Worked too. | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? There are lots of statues of criminals in their time. Mrs Pankhurst is rightly celebrated in St Peter's Square in Manchester, but she and other suffragettes were criminalised at the time. Should we tear down Mrs Pankhurst? Absolutely yes. Why? “led by key WSPU figures such as Emmeline Pankhurst, targeted infrastructure, government, churches and the general public, and saw the use of improvised explosive devices, arson, letter bombs, assassination attempts and other forms of direct action and violence.” Sounds lovely, let’s build a statue to a terrorist." true and her net worth is a million. You think Greta would give that lifestyle up in the name of climate change ? Umm no she won't | |||
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"Topple her into the nearest river, if it hasn't dried up! How dare you! It was actually a dig at the current trend for toppling statues, coupled with a wry allusion to climate change. Who dares posts! Well as she now has a criminal record after her court appearance, should people be building statues of criminals? There are lots of statues of criminals in their time. Mrs Pankhurst is rightly celebrated in St Peter's Square in Manchester, but she and other suffragettes were criminalised at the time. Should we tear down Mrs Pankhurst? Absolutely yes. Why? “led by key WSPU figures such as Emmeline Pankhurst, targeted infrastructure, government, churches and the general public, and saw the use of improvised explosive devices, arson, letter bombs, assassination attempts and other forms of direct action and violence.” Sounds lovely, let’s build a statue to a terrorist. true and her net worth is a million. You think Greta would give that lifestyle up in the name of climate change ? Umm no she won't " I don't think Mrs Pankhurst is a millionaire. She's not even extant. | |||
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"I'm genuinely always amazed when people use the suffragettes as some paragons of virtue. " Who did that? Just as an example of people who whom we have statues, but who were criminalised in their lifetimes. Nowt more. | |||
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"I'm genuinely always amazed when people use the suffragettes as some paragons of virtue. " True if Greta is so biblical . She should donate her assets to the cause. | |||
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"I'm genuinely always amazed when people use the suffragettes as some paragons of virtue. Who did that? Just as an example of people who whom we have statues, but who were criminalised in their lifetimes. Nowt more. " It happens very often. You say criminalised in their lifetimes, they were criminals, there's no need to spin it. | |||
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