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By *ootyful2023 OP Couple
over a year ago
Walsall/birmingham |
Not really swing related but I’ve been looking at Diamond rings lately as I’m gonna ask my other half soon I want the real one but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? |
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I don’t see an issue with buying lab grown. It’s cheaper and better clarity. No one is going to look at your jewellery and be able to tell so it’s really down to personal preference. My sister got a larger lab-grown diamond for her money and was really happy with it.
I don’t think it matters what you pick as long as you like it  |
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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago
Burnleyish (She/They) |
I dread to think what my engagement ring would have cost with natural diamonds...
The stones alone were £1500 for two lab grown ½ carat diamonds and a lab grown ½ carat sapphire.
I wanted to be 100% sure mine was conflict free and as eco friendly as possible. Even used recycled metal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How will she react to lab-grown diamonds is the question I'd be asking. "
Clearly an unpopular opinion, but I wouldn't be happy if Tom had got me a lab grown diamond.
I guess it's perception, but I wanted the real thing.
x Jess |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Grown Diamonds are real. They are even fully organic and grown from sustainable and environmentally friendly sources.
Mined Diamonds are questionably sourced, mining destroys the environment permanently, massively wasteful when cut, and hugely inflated values at retail when the raw form miners got paid almost nothing. |
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By *ootyful2023 OP Couple
over a year ago
Walsall/birmingham |
"I don’t see an issue with buying lab grown. It’s cheaper and better clarity. No one is going to look at your jewellery and be able to tell so it’s really down to personal preference. My sister got a larger lab-grown diamond for her money and was really happy with it.
I don’t think it matters what you pick as long as you like it "
Makes more sense as for clarity and size but I no it going to bug me not being the real thing |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
"How will she react to lab-grown diamonds is the question I'd be asking.
Clearly an unpopular opinion, but I wouldn't be happy if Tom had got me a lab grown diamond.
I guess it's perception, but I wanted the real thing.
x Jess"
I don't know how I'd feel about it. Maybe it would depend on our finances. I wouldn't want money wasted on a ring, unless it was an investment, and that would depend on the diamond itself.
If I want something pretty on my finger I'd prefer an opal ring I think.
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
East London |
"How will she react to lab-grown diamonds is the question I'd be asking. she would be over the moon with it more so than me lol and she is worth a real one sometimes lol"
Then go for the sensible option
Make a memory with the money you're saving. |
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The ring price shouldn't be a concern it's a symbol your going to get married I find there's so much emphasis on the cost of a ring it baffles me personally, if the Mr spent 1000's on a ring I would probably take it back.
The important things are you and your partner, maybe discuss it with her or take her to pick her own?
Mrs |
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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago
Sandwich |
Real? As in made from carbon.
It’s an element. In one form it’s pretty and sparkly, in the other it makes good pencils.
The sentiment and thought behind every gift is more important than what it is. Imho anyway
I would prefer a lab grown one these days.   |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"Grown Diamonds are real. They are even fully organic and grown from sustainable and environmentally friendly sources.
Mined Diamonds are questionably sourced, mining destroys the environment permanently, massively wasteful when cut, and hugely inflated values at retail when the raw form miners got paid almost nothing."
Grown Diamonds are not real,no more than grown Rubies and Sapphires.Diamond mining has gone through a complete revolution in recent years("blood Diamonds" etc),now every stone has to be fully traceable back to source.Once a stone is cut you pay for what is left,not the wastage.That is why there is always a conflict between owner and cutter,the owner wants the biggest stone possible,the cutter wants a cut to show the quality of the stone (clarity,colour) which quite often removes a lot of stone.Grown Diamonds are sold at hugely inflated prices,they are worthless after first sale whereas a real Diamond has a secondary value.If cost is a consideration look at pre owned rings,they are instantly cheaper because there is no VAT,pre owned is eci friendly because it's re cycling.You could have a stone removed and set into a new "shank"(ring) of your choice of style or just to have a brand new feel. |
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By *ootyful2023 OP Couple
over a year ago
Walsall/birmingham |
"Real Diamonds every time.Lab grown are worthless on the secondary market,in other words once you have bought the ring it is worthless.The only value is the gold in the shank."
exactly this but lab grown are far more affordable to lose
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By *ootyful2023 OP Couple
over a year ago
Walsall/birmingham |
"Grown Diamonds are real. They are even fully organic and grown from sustainable and environmentally friendly sources.
Mined Diamonds are questionably sourced, mining destroys the environment permanently, massively wasteful when cut, and hugely inflated values at retail when the raw form miners got paid almost nothing.
Grown Diamonds are not real,no more than grown Rubies and Sapphires.Diamond mining has gone through a complete revolution in recent years("blood Diamonds" etc),now every stone has to be fully traceable back to source.Once a stone is cut you pay for what is left,not the wastage.That is why there is always a conflict between owner and cutter,the owner wants the biggest stone possible,the cutter wants a cut to show the quality of the stone (clarity,colour) which quite often removes a lot of stone.Grown Diamonds are sold at hugely inflated prices,they are worthless after first sale whereas a real Diamond has a secondary value.If cost is a consideration look at pre owned rings,they are instantly cheaper because there is no VAT,pre owned is eci friendly because it's re cycling.You could have a stone removed and set into a new "shank"(ring) of your choice of style or just to have a brand new feel."
my mate at work used to be a jeweller and has said this |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"Grown Diamonds are real. They are even fully organic and grown from sustainable and environmentally friendly sources.
Mined Diamonds are questionably sourced, mining destroys the environment permanently, massively wasteful when cut, and hugely inflated values at retail when the raw form miners got paid almost nothing.
Grown Diamonds are not real,no more than grown Rubies and Sapphires.Diamond mining has gone through a complete revolution in recent years("blood Diamonds" etc),now every stone has to be fully traceable back to source.Once a stone is cut you pay for what is left,not the wastage.That is why there is always a conflict between owner and cutter,the owner wants the biggest stone possible,the cutter wants a cut to show the quality of the stone (clarity,colour) which quite often removes a lot of stone.Grown Diamonds are sold at hugely inflated prices,they are worthless after first sale whereas a real Diamond has a secondary value.If cost is a consideration look at pre owned rings,they are instantly cheaper because there is no VAT,pre owned is eci friendly because it's re cycling.You could have a stone removed and set into a new "shank"(ring) of your choice of style or just to have a brand new feel. my mate at work used to be a jeweller and has said this "
You're mate is correct.I am a jewellery dealer.Take a look at Victorian/Edwardian rings or anything pre world war two,they tend to be the old cut type,the shank is very very often 18 carat with a platinum mount for the stone.Very good value. |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
Take a look at Cooksongold.com.You can buy a loose 4mm Diamond for between around £250 and &400 dependant on clarity etc.Yoy can also buy a new shank without stone at a fraction over scrap value.Take the stone and shank to a working jeweller to be set.£400 stone,shank & setting no more than £550 |
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I don't think I could risk it for synthetic diamonds just yet. We don't know what the long term consequences are for lab grown gems, what issues will manifest themselves later on in life, any mutations or degradation at the atomic level...I shudder to think.
Besides I don't have it in my heart to stop visiting Mappin & Webb, Chopard and Tiffany etc. |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"I don't think I could risk it for synthetic diamonds just yet. We don't know what the long term consequences are for lab grown gems, what issues will manifest themselves later on in life, any mutations or degradation at the atomic level...I shudder to think
Besides I don't have it in my heart to stop visiting Mappin & Webb, Chopard and Tiffany etc."
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"I don't think I could risk it for synthetic diamonds just yet. We don't know what the long term consequences are for lab grown gems, what issues will manifest themselves later on in life, any mutations or degradation at the atomic level...I shudder to think.
Besides I don't have it in my heart to stop visiting Mappin & Webb, Chopard and Tiffany etc."
Yes you shouldn't trust these scientists. My mate who studies things on youtube says that artificial diamonds are made of the same stuff as graphene, and we all know how ultra toxic that is. Like a wedding ring made out of nanotubes? Its got to be some form of 5G body control thing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Natural diamonds don’t have to be expensive, you can get them to suit most budgets these days, either way I think you should just get whatever you like and think your partner will
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"I don't think I could risk it for synthetic diamonds just yet. We don't know what the long term consequences are for lab grown gems, what issues will manifest themselves later on in life, any mutations or degradation at the atomic level...I shudder to think.
Besides I don't have it in my heart to stop visiting Mappin & Webb, Chopard and Tiffany etc.
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Yes you shouldn't trust these scientists. My mate who studies things on youtube says that artificial diamonds are made of the same stuff as graphene, and we all know how ultra toxic that is. Like a wedding ring made out of nanotubes? Its got to be some form of 5G body control thing."
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Your friend should do a talk at the next symposium for the Gemological Institute of America. |
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"I don't think I could risk it for synthetic diamonds just yet. We don't know what the long term consequences are for lab grown gems, what issues will manifest themselves later on in life, any mutations or degradation at the atomic level...I shudder to think.
Besides I don't have it in my heart to stop visiting Mappin & Webb, Chopard and Tiffany etc.
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Yes you shouldn't trust these scientists. My mate who studies things on youtube says that artificial diamonds are made of the same stuff as graphene, and we all know how ultra toxic that is. Like a wedding ring made out of nanotubes? Its got to be some form of 5G body control thing.
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Your friend should do a talk at the next symposium for the Gemological Institute of America."
Be careful. They might be in the pay of big precious metal |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Take a look at Cooksongold.com.You can buy a loose 4mm Diamond for between around £250 and &400 dependant on clarity etc.Yoy can also buy a new shank without stone at a fraction over scrap value.Take the stone and shank to a working jeweller to be set.£400 stone,shank & setting no more than £550"
That's actually really interesting. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A few years ago I was in Antwerp which has a huge diamond centre, a few roads of diamond dealers.
It worked the same there. You brought the stone, and then the setting after. It kept the price down plus you could find a diamond that suited your budget |
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"I don't think I could risk it for synthetic diamonds just yet. We don't know what the long term consequences are for lab grown gems, what issues will manifest themselves later on in life, any mutations or degradation at the atomic level...I shudder to think.
Besides I don't have it in my heart to stop visiting Mappin & Webb, Chopard and Tiffany etc.
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Yes you shouldn't trust these scientists. My mate who studies things on youtube says that artificial diamonds are made of the same stuff as graphene, and we all know how ultra toxic that is. Like a wedding ring made out of nanotubes? Its got to be some form of 5G body control thing.
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Your friend should do a talk at the next symposium for the Gemological Institute of America.
Be careful. They might be in the pay of big precious metal"
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On our next date I'm treating you to some ice cold brew at De Beers.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not really swing related but I’ve been looking at Diamond rings lately as I’m gonna ask my other half soon I want the real one but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? "
If they are the type to demand an expensive ring, dump them. There's more to life than trying to please that type of person! |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
You’re better off with lab grown if buying the diamond and you have requirement. you can select all 4 C’s ,,they will have the full range where as natural ones you might struggle to find
Buy here it’s tax free , the 20% saving will more than pay for your holiday. Go to diamond park in the free zone rather than the jewelry shops or malls |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"A few years ago I was in Antwerp which has a huge diamond centre, a few roads of diamond dealers.
It worked the same there. You brought the stone, and then the setting after. It kept the price down plus you could find a diamond that suited your budget "
You can 3D print settings literally for the cost of gold , in Birmingham , with tax or here without tax. Simply watch the price daily and send your CAD image when the price is low.
You can get a CAD image done on sites like fiverr dot com for …… a fiver |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not really swing related but I’ve been looking at Diamond rings lately as I’m gonna ask my other half soon I want the real one but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? "
I dont think it matters as long as your partner likes it. Whats her thoughts on diamonds?
I remeber getting a diamond ring for an engagement long time ago now and I was scared to wear it half the time.
I ended up getting a similar style moissanite one and wore that mostly.
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds |
Depends on your partner, go with something you believe she'd love.
Personally I wasn't fussed by diamonds, lab grown or otherwise. C commissioned a stunning ring of his own design from a silversmith. The thought he put into it blew any gem ideas out of the water.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Does anyone know about buying from auctions?"
You need to look at how they are advertising it. Are they calling it a diamond or a clear stone. A gold band or yellow metal.
If you buy something and get it checked after and it’s not what they said it was you can get your money back. That said reputable auction houses will check everything out prior but still worth independently getting it verified after |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds |
"Not really swing related but I’ve been looking at Diamond rings lately as I’m gonna ask my other half soon I want the real one but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? "
I've always wanted a blood diamond.
C |
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By *ootyful2023 OP Couple
over a year ago
Walsall/birmingham |
"Grown Diamonds are real. They are even fully organic and grown from sustainable and environmentally friendly sources.
Mined Diamonds are questionably sourced, mining destroys the environment permanently, massively wasteful when cut, and hugely inflated values at retail when the raw form miners got paid almost nothing.
Grown Diamonds are not real,no more than grown Rubies and Sapphires.Diamond mining has gone through a complete revolution in recent years("blood Diamonds" etc),now every stone has to be fully traceable back to source.Once a stone is cut you pay for what is left,not the wastage.That is why there is always a conflict between owner and cutter,the owner wants the biggest stone possible,the cutter wants a cut to show the quality of the stone (clarity,colour) which quite often removes a lot of stone.Grown Diamonds are sold at hugely inflated prices,they are worthless after first sale whereas a real Diamond has a secondary value.If cost is a consideration look at pre owned rings,they are instantly cheaper because there is no VAT,pre owned is eci friendly because it's re cycling.You could have a stone removed and set into a new "shank"(ring) of your choice of style or just to have a brand new feel. my mate at work used to be a jeweller and has said this
You're mate is correct.I am a jewellery dealer.Take a look at Victorian/Edwardian rings or anything pre world war two,they tend to be the old cut type,the shank is very very often 18 carat with a platinum mount for the stone.Very good value."
he also said this today lol |
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By *ootyful2023 OP Couple
over a year ago
Walsall/birmingham |
"Not really swing related but I’ve been looking at Diamond rings lately as I’m gonna ask my other half soon I want the real one but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts?
If they are the type to demand an expensive ring, dump them. There's more to life than trying to please that type of person!"
I’m trying to please myself lol she’d be happy with a haribo ring |
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By *ootyful2023 OP Couple
over a year ago
Walsall/birmingham |
"Not really swing related but I’ve been looking at Diamond rings lately as I’m gonna ask my other half soon I want the real one but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts?
I dont think it matters as long as your partner likes it. Whats her thoughts on diamonds?
I remeber getting a diamond ring for an engagement long time ago now and I was scared to wear it half the time.
I ended up getting a similar style moissanite one and wore that mostly.
Not a clue other than they sparkle lol
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"but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts? "
Lab grown. I'm all for disruptive technologies which significantly reduce cost to entry and create new markets and give access to product to more people at a much cheaper price. I'm also against monopolies and cartels positioning themselves to take advantage of markets, so seeing capital markets expand with competition is how a free-market economy is supposed to work, without cartel/monopoly distortion.
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"but labs are clearer and a hell of a lot cheaper lol what’s everyone’s thoughts?
Lab grown. I'm all for disruptive technologies which significantly reduce cost to entry and create new markets and give access to product to more people at a much cheaper price. I'm also against monopolies and cartels positioning themselves to take advantage of markets, so seeing capital markets expand with competition is how a free-market economy is supposed to work, without cartel/monopoly distortion.
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Labs are not clearer than a comparable Diamond as they are measured the same way.Lab Diamonds are not the same product as a natural Diamond.Thats like saying plywood is the same as Oak because it's wood |
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