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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Twitter is a disgusting place to be at the minute."
I’ve deliberately stayed away from my main twitter because I follow lots of football accounts and I know they’re definitely running jokes. |
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over a year ago
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"Twitter is a disgusting place to be at the minute.
I’ve deliberately stayed away from my main twitter because I follow lots of football accounts and I know they’re definitely running jokes. "
The amount of people coming out in support of both of them is horrific. Although I don’t agree I can see why some support Mendy because they think not guilty means innocent. I don’t know how anyone can support Greenwood after seeing the evidence. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Twitter is a disgusting place to be at the minute.
I’ve deliberately stayed away from my main twitter because I follow lots of football accounts and I know they’re definitely running jokes.
The amount of people coming out in support of both of them is horrific. Although I don’t agree I can see why some support Mendy because they think not guilty means innocent. I don’t know how anyone can support Greenwood after seeing the evidence."
Greenwood clips have been all over twitter from United fans since before the case even got dropped. Proper vile.
I totally don’t expect different on the Mendy thing. People did the same after the Ched Evans thing when he got cleared too. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Unfortunately, a not guilty verdict is being assumed as innocent and people are all too quick to forget the player's indiscretions.
As a United fan, I want Greenwood nowhere near the club. I've heard the audio and seen the photos and sure, he might have got back with her and had a child but that doesn't mean he gets the privilege of playing for Manchester United. But the amount of people wanting him back because "we need a striker" makes me lose faith in humanity  |
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over a year ago
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"Unfortunately, a not guilty verdict is being assumed as innocent and people are all too quick to forget the player's indiscretions.
As a United fan, I want Greenwood nowhere near the club. I've heard the audio and seen the photos and sure, he might have got back with her and had a child but that doesn't mean he gets the privilege of playing for Manchester United. But the amount of people wanting him back because "we need a striker" makes me lose faith in humanity "
Football fans on the internet are literally some of the grimmest people. I bet they’re all regular 8Chan posters. |
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Not like you lot to find someone guilty and want to ruin their whole careers.
I genuinely hope none of you ever have to go through something like Mendy.
Greenwood is another matter but at the end of the day, the CPS are not charging him (they would regardless of witness if they had enough evidence and it was in the public interest) so he should be allowed to resume his career. I wouldn't want him at my club but I also wouldn't want him never to be able to work again. |
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"Not like you lot to find someone guilty and want to ruin their whole careers.
I genuinely hope none of you ever have to go through something like Mendy.
Greenwood is another matter but at the end of the day, the CPS are not charging him (they would regardless of witness if they had enough evidence and it was in the public interest) so he should be allowed to resume his career. I wouldn't want him at my club but I also wouldn't want him never to be able to work again. "
He can get a job. |
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"Not like you lot to find someone guilty and want to ruin their whole careers.
I genuinely hope none of you ever have to go through something like Mendy.
Greenwood is another matter but at the end of the day, the CPS are not charging him (they would regardless of witness if they had enough evidence and it was in the public interest) so he should be allowed to resume his career. I wouldn't want him at my club but I also wouldn't want him never to be able to work again.
He can get a job. "
Of course he can, in his chosen career. As he should be able to. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not like you lot to find someone guilty and want to ruin their whole careers.
I genuinely hope none of you ever have to go through something like Mendy.
Greenwood is another matter but at the end of the day, the CPS are not charging him (they would regardless of witness if they had enough evidence and it was in the public interest) so he should be allowed to resume his career. I wouldn't want him at my club but I also wouldn't want him never to be able to work again.
He can get a job.
Of course he can, in his chosen career. As he should be able to."
Would you want him at your club? |
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"Not like you lot to find someone guilty and want to ruin their whole careers.
I genuinely hope none of you ever have to go through something like Mendy.
Greenwood is another matter but at the end of the day, the CPS are not charging him (they would regardless of witness if they had enough evidence and it was in the public interest) so he should be allowed to resume his career. I wouldn't want him at my club but I also wouldn't want him never to be able to work again.
He can get a job.
Of course he can, in his chosen career. As he should be able to.
Would you want him at your club?"
Mendy - yes but we don't need a left back.
Greenwood - personally, no, for optics. However, if we did sign him, then I'd accept it and support him on the pitch. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not like you lot to find someone guilty and want to ruin their whole careers.
I genuinely hope none of you ever have to go through something like Mendy.
Greenwood is another matter but at the end of the day, the CPS are not charging him (they would regardless of witness if they had enough evidence and it was in the public interest) so he should be allowed to resume his career. I wouldn't want him at my club but I also wouldn't want him never to be able to work again.
He can get a job.
Of course he can, in his chosen career. As he should be able to.
Would you want him at your club?
Mendy - yes but we don't need a left back.
Greenwood - personally, no, for optics. However, if we did sign him, then I'd accept it and support him on the pitch."
Wow. |
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"Not like you lot to find someone guilty and want to ruin their whole careers.
I genuinely hope none of you ever have to go through something like Mendy.
Greenwood is another matter but at the end of the day, the CPS are not charging him (they would regardless of witness if they had enough evidence and it was in the public interest) so he should be allowed to resume his career. I wouldn't want him at my club but I also wouldn't want him never to be able to work again.
He can get a job.
Of course he can, in his chosen career. As he should be able to.
Would you want him at your club?
Mendy - yes but we don't need a left back.
Greenwood - personally, no, for optics. However, if we did sign him, then I'd accept it and support him on the pitch.
Wow."
Wow indeed.
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Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that. |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that. "
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case? |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?"
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club"
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him? |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?"
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him... |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him..."
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case"
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system. |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system. "
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy? |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?"
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
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No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people. |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people. "
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case. |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that. "
Agreed by the way bro |
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over a year ago
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As a Man Utd fan in a ideal world Mason Greenwood should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.Unfortunately with so many people against him including Man Utd fans I don’t think that can happen.Interesting how the lady took him back and is having his child is not getting any bad press.Then again maybe it’s ok to be a gold digger. |
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"As a Man Utd fan in a ideal world Mason Greenwood should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.Unfortunately with so many people against him including Man Utd fans I don’t think that can happen.Interesting how the lady took him back and is having his child is not getting any bad press.Then again maybe it’s ok to be a gold digger."
Gold digger? Or victim? |
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"13 women made complaints about Mendy. I've seen men defending him saying 13 hoes lied. Sure.  "
13 women lying and their cases getting to court is possibly the most unlikely thing ever |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case. "
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better. "
Lol we had Alonso for ages and he squashed someone with the bumper on his car |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
Lol we had Alonso for ages and he squashed someone with the bumper on his car "
Lee Hughes got 6 years and was allowed to continue after he was released.
That's the thing about this country, if you're convicted then you serve your time and are allowed to continue your career (in most circumstances). If you're aren't convicted, then you aren't convicted.
Presumed innocent until found guilty is real, or at least is for most people. |
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"As a Man Utd fan in a ideal world Mason Greenwood should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.Unfortunately with so many people against him including Man Utd fans I don’t think that can happen.Interesting how the lady took him back and is having his child is not getting any bad press.Then again maybe it’s ok to be a gold digger."
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"As a Man Utd fan in a ideal world Mason Greenwood should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.Unfortunately with so many people against him including Man Utd fans I don’t think that can happen.Interesting how the lady took him back and is having his child is not getting any bad press.Then again maybe it’s ok to be a gold digger.
Yeah, because no woman has ever gone back to an abusive relationship for various reasons "
Add to that the fact Greenwood broke his terms of bail by visiting her and then all of a sudden a key witness pulled out and her dad came out openly defending him because he didn't want to lose his cash cow and is it any surprise she went back? |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better. "
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
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"As a Man Utd fan in a ideal world Mason Greenwood should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.Unfortunately with so many people against him including Man Utd fans I don’t think that can happen.Interesting how the lady took him back and is having his child is not getting any bad press.Then again maybe it’s ok to be a gold digger.
Gold digger? Or victim?"
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
"As a Man Utd fan in a ideal world Mason Greenwood should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.Unfortunately with so many people against him including Man Utd fans I don’t think that can happen.Interesting how the lady took him back and is having his child is not getting any bad press.Then again maybe it’s ok to be a gold digger.
Yeah, because no woman has ever gone back to an abusive relationship for various reasons
Add to that the fact Greenwood broke his terms of bail by visiting her and then all of a sudden a key witness pulled out and her dad came out openly defending him because he didn't want to lose his cash cow and is it any surprise she went back?"
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
"
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence."
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence.
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
How do you know they have seen all the evidence, how do you know the evidence was treated and presented right?"
Just reiterating you have no confidence in the judicial system doesn't add anything. Conviction rates are low for a myriad of reasons.
If the jury didn't see all the evidence then that's the lawyers and barristers problem, they are paid, fucking handsomely to do their job.
This was a retrial. That means Mendy went through 2 trials to be found not guilty.
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence.
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
How do you know they have seen all the evidence, how do you know the evidence was treated and presented right?
Just reiterating you have no confidence in the judicial system doesn't add anything. Conviction rates are low for a myriad of reasons.
If the jury didn't see all the evidence then that's the lawyers and barristers problem, they are paid, fucking handsomely to do their job.
This was a retrial. That means Mendy went through 2 trials to be found not guilty.
"
Because there was deemed to be sufficient reasonable doubt . Because ultimately it's was his word ( he had consent) and there's ...he didn't.
So systematic failings around how the judicial system deals with cases like this abound.
But I find it hard to believe all this individual women all randomly come forward.
Why randomly pick on him? Plenty of footballers are out there with multiple women( it seems ) without multiple claims like this...
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence.
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
How do you know they have seen all the evidence, how do you know the evidence was treated and presented right?
Just reiterating you have no confidence in the judicial system doesn't add anything. Conviction rates are low for a myriad of reasons.
If the jury didn't see all the evidence then that's the lawyers and barristers problem, they are paid, fucking handsomely to do their job.
This was a retrial. That means Mendy went through 2 trials to be found not guilty.
Because there was deemed to be sufficient reasonable doubt . Because ultimately it's was his word ( he had consent) and there's ...he didn't.
So systematic failings around how the judicial system deals with cases like this abound.
But I find it hard to believe all this individual women all randomly come forward.
Why randomly pick on him? Plenty of footballers are out there with multiple women( it seems ) without multiple claims like this...
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That's how our system works, as do most around the world.
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"As a Man Utd fan in a ideal world Mason Greenwood should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.Unfortunately with so many people against him including Man Utd fans I don’t think that can happen.Interesting how the lady took him back and is having his child is not getting any bad press.Then again maybe it’s ok to be a gold digger.
Gold digger? Or victim?. She started off a victim and finished up a gold digger "
She’s still a victim. It’s completely normal for victims of these types of relationships to become dependent and also to believe that the abuse is a part of love. |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence.
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
How do you know they have seen all the evidence, how do you know the evidence was treated and presented right?
Just reiterating you have no confidence in the judicial system doesn't add anything. Conviction rates are low for a myriad of reasons.
If the jury didn't see all the evidence then that's the lawyers and barristers problem, they are paid, fucking handsomely to do their job.
This was a retrial. That means Mendy went through 2 trials to be found not guilty.
Because there was deemed to be sufficient reasonable doubt . Because ultimately it's was his word ( he had consent) and there's ...he didn't.
So systematic failings around how the judicial system deals with cases like this abound.
But I find it hard to believe all this individual women all randomly come forward.
Why randomly pick on him? Plenty of footballers are out there with multiple women( it seems ) without multiple claims like this...
That's how our system works, as do most around the world.
If there's reasonable doubt then it's a not guilty verdict. "
Less than 1% of cases reported result in a conviction.
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I support Arsenal and whilst not confirmed unless you count Twitter they are in a similar situation.
If it’s indeed true I will be disgusted with my club for playing the player.
I get people need to get on with their lives but it leaves a real sour taste.
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Who writes the policy on 'morality' in any given business, will it be consistently applied across all levels and do they take advice perhaps from religious groups or even politicians?
There are many people who have been through the judicial system who have been deemed not to have met the threshold that applies to us all regardless of our employment/being in the public eye etc who have then gone back to their job and got on with life..
If we're applying morality as a reason I think we are on a slippery slope, not sure places like Iran are where it might lead of course .. |
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"I support Arsenal and whilst not confirmed unless you count Twitter they are in a similar situation.
If it’s indeed true I will be disgusted with my club for playing the player.
I get people need to get on with their lives but it leaves a real sour taste.
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence.
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
How do you know they have seen all the evidence, how do you know the evidence was treated and presented right?
Just reiterating you have no confidence in the judicial system doesn't add anything. Conviction rates are low for a myriad of reasons.
If the jury didn't see all the evidence then that's the lawyers and barristers problem, they are paid, fucking handsomely to do their job.
This was a retrial. That means Mendy went through 2 trials to be found not guilty.
Because there was deemed to be sufficient reasonable doubt . Because ultimately it's was his word ( he had consent) and there's ...he didn't.
So systematic failings around how the judicial system deals with cases like this abound.
But I find it hard to believe all this individual women all randomly come forward.
Why randomly pick on him? Plenty of footballers are out there with multiple women( it seems ) without multiple claims like this...
That's how our system works, as do most around the world.
If there's reasonable doubt then it's a not guilty verdict.
Less than 1% of cases reported result in a conviction.
That's not ok...and to say well that's the system ....well it's just not good enough."
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"I support Arsenal and whilst not confirmed unless you count Twitter they are in a similar situation.
If it’s indeed true I will be disgusted with my club for playing the player.
I get people need to get on with their lives but it leaves a real sour taste.
What about your number 5 last season? He sounds like a pretty grim person "
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence.
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
How do you know they have seen all the evidence, how do you know the evidence was treated and presented right?
Just reiterating you have no confidence in the judicial system doesn't add anything. Conviction rates are low for a myriad of reasons.
If the jury didn't see all the evidence then that's the lawyers and barristers problem, they are paid, fucking handsomely to do their job.
This was a retrial. That means Mendy went through 2 trials to be found not guilty.
Because there was deemed to be sufficient reasonable doubt . Because ultimately it's was his word ( he had consent) and there's ...he didn't.
So systematic failings around how the judicial system deals with cases like this abound.
But I find it hard to believe all this individual women all randomly come forward.
Why randomly pick on him? Plenty of footballers are out there with multiple women( it seems ) without multiple claims like this...
That's how our system works, as do most around the world.
If there's reasonable doubt then it's a not guilty verdict.
Less than 1% of cases reported result in a conviction.
That's not ok...and to say well that's the system ....well it's just not good enough.
The CPS cannot do anything with a claim unless there's sufficient evidence. "
Would suggest a quick Google and you would see there is numerous issues with how CPS deal with these type sif cases ...to the point it looks like a judicial review will be happening.
But again...if the conviction rate for a crime is less than 1%...do you not think that shows something is clearly not right? |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence.
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
How do you know they have seen all the evidence, how do you know the evidence was treated and presented right?
Just reiterating you have no confidence in the judicial system doesn't add anything. Conviction rates are low for a myriad of reasons.
If the jury didn't see all the evidence then that's the lawyers and barristers problem, they are paid, fucking handsomely to do their job.
This was a retrial. That means Mendy went through 2 trials to be found not guilty.
Because there was deemed to be sufficient reasonable doubt . Because ultimately it's was his word ( he had consent) and there's ...he didn't.
So systematic failings around how the judicial system deals with cases like this abound.
But I find it hard to believe all this individual women all randomly come forward.
Why randomly pick on him? Plenty of footballers are out there with multiple women( it seems ) without multiple claims like this...
That's how our system works, as do most around the world.
If there's reasonable doubt then it's a not guilty verdict.
Less than 1% of cases reported result in a conviction.
That's not ok...and to say well that's the system ....well it's just not good enough.
The CPS cannot do anything with a claim unless there's sufficient evidence.
Would suggest a quick Google and you would see there is numerous issues with how CPS deal with these type sif cases ...to the point it looks like a judicial review will be happening.
But again...if the conviction rate for a crime is less than 1%...do you not think that shows something is clearly not right?"
What good would a review do if no one truth the process?
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence.
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
How do you know they have seen all the evidence, how do you know the evidence was treated and presented right?
Just reiterating you have no confidence in the judicial system doesn't add anything. Conviction rates are low for a myriad of reasons.
If the jury didn't see all the evidence then that's the lawyers and barristers problem, they are paid, fucking handsomely to do their job.
This was a retrial. That means Mendy went through 2 trials to be found not guilty.
Because there was deemed to be sufficient reasonable doubt . Because ultimately it's was his word ( he had consent) and there's ...he didn't.
So systematic failings around how the judicial system deals with cases like this abound.
But I find it hard to believe all this individual women all randomly come forward.
Why randomly pick on him? Plenty of footballers are out there with multiple women( it seems ) without multiple claims like this...
That's how our system works, as do most around the world.
If there's reasonable doubt then it's a not guilty verdict.
Less than 1% of cases reported result in a conviction.
That's not ok...and to say well that's the system ....well it's just not good enough.
The CPS cannot do anything with a claim unless there's sufficient evidence.
Would suggest a quick Google and you would see there is numerous issues with how CPS deal with these type sif cases ...to the point it looks like a judicial review will be happening.
But again...if the conviction rate for a crime is less than 1%...do you not think that shows something is clearly not right?
What good would a review do if no one truth the process?
Personally I'm happy to continue to not persecute anyone who isn't found guilty. "
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence.
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
How do you know they have seen all the evidence, how do you know the evidence was treated and presented right?
Just reiterating you have no confidence in the judicial system doesn't add anything. Conviction rates are low for a myriad of reasons.
If the jury didn't see all the evidence then that's the lawyers and barristers problem, they are paid, fucking handsomely to do their job.
This was a retrial. That means Mendy went through 2 trials to be found not guilty.
Because there was deemed to be sufficient reasonable doubt . Because ultimately it's was his word ( he had consent) and there's ...he didn't.
So systematic failings around how the judicial system deals with cases like this abound.
But I find it hard to believe all this individual women all randomly come forward.
Why randomly pick on him? Plenty of footballers are out there with multiple women( it seems ) without multiple claims like this...
That's how our system works, as do most around the world.
If there's reasonable doubt then it's a not guilty verdict.
Less than 1% of cases reported result in a conviction.
That's not ok...and to say well that's the system ....well it's just not good enough.
The CPS cannot do anything with a claim unless there's sufficient evidence.
Would suggest a quick Google and you would see there is numerous issues with how CPS deal with these type sif cases ...to the point it looks like a judicial review will be happening.
But again...if the conviction rate for a crime is less than 1%...do you not think that shows something is clearly not right?
What good would a review do if no one truth the process?
Personally I'm happy to continue to not persecute anyone who isn't found guilty.
And I can't accept the not guilty verdict with any confidence. "
But you must accept (you don't have to like it) that it's not guilty because that's how the law works.
Ergo, he is free to pursue his career (again, you don't have to like it) |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence.
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
How do you know they have seen all the evidence, how do you know the evidence was treated and presented right?
Just reiterating you have no confidence in the judicial system doesn't add anything. Conviction rates are low for a myriad of reasons.
If the jury didn't see all the evidence then that's the lawyers and barristers problem, they are paid, fucking handsomely to do their job.
This was a retrial. That means Mendy went through 2 trials to be found not guilty.
Because there was deemed to be sufficient reasonable doubt . Because ultimately it's was his word ( he had consent) and there's ...he didn't.
So systematic failings around how the judicial system deals with cases like this abound.
But I find it hard to believe all this individual women all randomly come forward.
Why randomly pick on him? Plenty of footballers are out there with multiple women( it seems ) without multiple claims like this...
That's how our system works, as do most around the world.
If there's reasonable doubt then it's a not guilty verdict.
Less than 1% of cases reported result in a conviction.
That's not ok...and to say well that's the system ....well it's just not good enough.
The CPS cannot do anything with a claim unless there's sufficient evidence.
Would suggest a quick Google and you would see there is numerous issues with how CPS deal with these type sif cases ...to the point it looks like a judicial review will be happening.
But again...if the conviction rate for a crime is less than 1%...do you not think that shows something is clearly not right?
What good would a review do if no one truth the process?
Personally I'm happy to continue to not persecute anyone who isn't found guilty.
And I can't accept the not guilty verdict with any confidence.
But you must accept (you don't have to like it) that it's not guilty because that's how the law works.
Ergo, he is free to pursue his career (again, you don't have to like it)"
I accept thats how it is and I accept that is a result of a broken system.
Is he legally free therefore to get other employment ...yes. would I hope clubs exercised better judgement about employing him....also yes. |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him..."
I am thoroughly surprised that we are now suggesting that people who have been found innocent ( in Mendy's case by 2 different Jurries) should have have their means of livelihood taken away also. I am pretty sure that your opinion would be different if it was you or anyone your relatives. There is a judicial system in this country that regulates our behaviours. Should that now be abandoned for the more popular "mob lynching" that you seem to be suggesting? Everyone is safer when the society is based on Some rules like the judicial system.
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
This is what I struggle with.
Why shouldnt they have signed him? Baring in mind they'll have done due dilligance and know the facts of the case
Honestly because we all know the conviction rates for this in this country are ludicrously low.
I'm not denying he escaped conviction. Does that mean he didn't do it...I'm not convinced.
Have they done their due diligence ...immsure . Did that take into account the morality of it... probably to a point.
I still struggle with the idea that 6 seperate women came forward...with at least enough evidence for CPS to take forward their cases. And as I said the number of convictions are ludicrously low. There is a problem with judicial system.
So you're basing it on 'no smoke without fire' and 'men get away with so much'
Did you actually follow the case and see they evidence presented in favour of Mendy?
My counter would be...why do you think conviction rates are so low in this country?
You think it's coincidence that 6 different women made the accusations...
No that isn't a counter to this case, that's a separate matter.
I think it wouldn't be the first time that multiple accusers have made up stories about famous, rich people.
I don't agree. Because we know the judicial system is failing...and failing big time. I don't think many people have confidence in it for this type of case...and because if that I don't have confidence in this particular case.
Its OK to not agree. I've asked multiple times if you seen the evidence presented, you haven't answered.
Luckily, it's a whole jury that come to a decision together because if it was just yourself I guess it would be a case of convicting for the sake of making our judicial service look better.
I haven't seen all the evidence. And I'm not blaming the jury. I'm no expert. But clearly something is very wrong with the system and I have little faith in it.
So you don't actually know but don't feel he should've got another job. That really is WOW.
The jury came to the decision so if they say he isn't guilty, why are you struggling to accept that? Bare in mind, the juryvdid seeball of the evidence.
As I said I don't have faith in the judicial system...given the ridiculously low conviction rates.
How do you know they have seen all the evidence, how do you know the evidence was treated and presented right?
Just reiterating you have no confidence in the judicial system doesn't add anything. Conviction rates are low for a myriad of reasons.
If the jury didn't see all the evidence then that's the lawyers and barristers problem, they are paid, fucking handsomely to do their job.
This was a retrial. That means Mendy went through 2 trials to be found not guilty.
Because there was deemed to be sufficient reasonable doubt . Because ultimately it's was his word ( he had consent) and there's ...he didn't.
So systematic failings around how the judicial system deals with cases like this abound.
But I find it hard to believe all this individual women all randomly come forward.
Why randomly pick on him? Plenty of footballers are out there with multiple women( it seems ) without multiple claims like this...
That's how our system works, as do most around the world.
If there's reasonable doubt then it's a not guilty verdict.
Less than 1% of cases reported result in a conviction.
That's not ok...and to say well that's the system ....well it's just not good enough.
The CPS cannot do anything with a claim unless there's sufficient evidence.
Would suggest a quick Google and you would see there is numerous issues with how CPS deal with these type sif cases ...to the point it looks like a judicial review will be happening.
But again...if the conviction rate for a crime is less than 1%...do you not think that shows something is clearly not right?
What good would a review do if no one truth the process?
Personally I'm happy to continue to not persecute anyone who isn't found guilty.
And I can't accept the not guilty verdict with any confidence.
But you must accept (you don't have to like it) that it's not guilty because that's how the law works.
Ergo, he is free to pursue his career (again, you don't have to like it)
I accept thats how it is and I accept that is a result of a broken system.
Is he legally free therefore to get other employment ...yes. would I hope clubs exercised better judgement about employing him....also yes. "
You've stated yourself that you haven't seen all of the evidence presented.
You have no idea if the club exercised 'better judgement' or not.
I'm not sure there's much else to say.
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
I am thoroughly surprised that we are now suggesting that people who have been found innocent ( in Mendy's case by 2 different Jurries) should have have their means of livelihood taken away also. I am pretty sure that your opinion would be different if it was you or anyone your relatives. There is a judicial system in this country that regulates our behaviours. Should that now be abandoned for the more popular "mob lynching" that you seem to be suggesting? Everyone is safer when the society is based on Some rules like the judicial system.
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
I am thoroughly surprised that we are now suggesting that people who have been found innocent ( in Mendy's case by 2 different Jurries) should have have their means of livelihood taken away also. I am pretty sure that your opinion would be different if it was you or anyone your relatives. There is a judicial system in this country that regulates our behaviours. Should that now be abandoned for the more popular "mob lynching" that you seem to be suggesting? Everyone is safer when the society is based on Some rules like the judicial system.
But what do you do when the judiciary isn't working. Just carry on?"
What exactly do you mean by not working?
Do you mean not working according ro your own dictates?
He gas been tried and found innocent. What else do you want?. |
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over a year ago
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"As a Man Utd fan in a ideal world Mason Greenwood should be allowed to stake a claim for a first team place.Unfortunately with so many people against him including Man Utd fans I don’t think that can happen.Interesting how the lady took him back and is having his child is not getting any bad press.Then again maybe it’s ok to be a gold digger.
Gold digger? Or victim?. She started off a victim and finished up a gold digger
She’s still a victim. It’s completely normal for victims of these types of relationships to become dependent and also to believe that the abuse is a part of love. "
. Yes she could still be a victim but the fact she was the one who agreed to have her picture on social media with her injuries and a voice recording then got back together with Mason went on to get pregnant by Mason and is in a relationship Mason my gut feeling is she is a gold digger. |
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"Not massively into football.
But given what I've seen and read. While the have escaped a conviction. I think it says more about the problems with the judicial system than anything.
You would hope that clubs take a moral stand ... however I have little hope of that.
Manchester City sacked Mendy a long time ago.
Did you follow the case?
Yes...however I saw he now has a new club
Yes, he signed for a French club this morning. Do you think they know the facts of the case and took that into account?
Do you think they should now sack him?
I don't think they care....as far as they are concerned they are getting a good footballer for free.
I don't think they should have signed him...
I am thoroughly surprised that we are now suggesting that people who have been found innocent ( in Mendy's case by 2 different Jurries) should have have their means of livelihood taken away also. I am pretty sure that your opinion would be different if it was you or anyone your relatives. There is a judicial system in this country that regulates our behaviours. Should that now be abandoned for the more popular "mob lynching" that you seem to be suggesting? Everyone is safer when the society is based on Some rules like the judicial system.
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If 13 women came out and said a family member had [redacted] them or if I heard and saw the evidence we did against Greenwood, I wouldn’t be defending them. I know that much. |
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