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How did he get away with it?
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How did Saville get away with it? 5 decades of horrific crimes, hundreds of offences. Only 3 police investigations whilst alive (2003, 2008, 2011). He had friends in the police, he was King Charles/Diana marriage counsellor. He was Part of the corrupt BBC, his brother was a gangster
Still though, you would think he at least been arrested at some point? |
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By *sf90Man
over a year ago
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Unfortunately we live in a world where money talks. Saville offered people something wether it be job security, money, a career. Speaking against him was probably suicide financially and for a future career. Also the BBC are incredibly corrupt and hush hush. Look at how they handled the huw edwards story now. Granted its nowhere as bad a Saville but they haven't learned as they continue to not be honest and to try and keep things under wraps. But basically it mainly always boils down to money |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If you have Netflix then check out the documentary about Seville on there. It a pretty scary, seeing him on TV with young girls sat on his lap, on camera, squirming because it was obvious he was doing something to them.
Then there's The taped interview with the police where he tells the interviewer he's not answering thier questions and they pretty much have no power over him.
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"How did Saville get away with it? 5 decades of horrific crimes, hundreds of offences. Only 3 police investigations whilst alive (2003, 2008, 2011). He had friends in the police, he was King Charles/Diana marriage counsellor. He was Part of the corrupt BBC, his brother was a gangster
Still though, you would think he at least been arrested at some point? "
His brother wasn't a gangster, he worked at Springfield Hospital in Tooting. Just as perverted as his brother. |
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"Unfortunately we live in a world where money talks. Saville offered people something wether it be job security, money, a career. Speaking against him was probably suicide financially and for a future career. Also the BBC are incredibly corrupt and hush hush. Look at how they handled the huw edwards story now. Granted its nowhere as bad a Saville but they haven't learned as they continue to not be honest and to try and keep things under wraps. But basically it mainly always boils down to money"
The BBC was given a second chance after Savile yet they continue to make the same mistakes. Victims allegations are not taken seriously |
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Thatcher was a friend, you don't much better protection if your a wrong un than that..
Not saying for a minute she knew what he was but it was known she was in his corner and that would have been enough to keep the pressure off.. |
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"A nation treasure, friends in higher places, links to royalty, top lawyers, top employee at the BBC. Does this remind you anyone who works at the BBC now?
My Dad? "
Is your Dad Welsh with a thing for young boys? |
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"A nation treasure, friends in higher places, links to royalty, top lawyers, top employee at the BBC. Does this remind you anyone who works at the BBC now?
My Dad?
Is your Dad Welsh with a thing for young boys?"
He also like to spunk 35k on pics |
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"A nation treasure, friends in higher places, links to royalty, top lawyers, top employee at the BBC. Does this remind you anyone who works at the BBC now?
My Dad?
Is your Dad Welsh with a thing for young boys?
He also like to spunk 35k on pics "
Yeah that’s the guy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People don't listen to victims when they have the courage to speak up. And hush those who speak out. Look at all the times Biden has been inappropriate - he gets away with it. |
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"Don’t know how he got away with it but he’s vile fucking filth and so are the bbc on par with him "
I wonder how many complaints the BBC ignored, how many allegations were dismissed and covered up |
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He got away with it because anyone who suggested what was really happening were belittled and mocked. The Conspiracy theorists of the 1970/80/90’s. Branded as wacko loonies spreading malicious falsehoods.
We’ve moved on since then though………..or have we? |
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"A nation treasure, friends in higher places, links to royalty, top lawyers, top employee at the BBC. Does this remind you anyone who works at the BBC now?
My Dad?
Is your Dad Welsh with a thing for young boys?
He also like to spunk 35k on pics
Yeah that’s the guy "
I know his cheque bounced the fucker |
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By *929Man
over a year ago
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"Don’t know how he got away with it but he’s vile fucking filth and so are the bbc on par with him
I wonder how many complaints the BBC ignored, how many allegations were dismissed and covered up "
I bet it’s loads over the years mate with many different employees, I truly detest the bbc won’t watch their channels or listen to their radio stations |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"A nation treasure, friends in higher places, links to royalty, top lawyers, top employee at the BBC. Does this remind you anyone who works at the BBC now?
My Dad?
Is your Dad Welsh with a thing for young boys?"
Spit it out.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Because half the elite are probably at it too. The journalist that outed him has said there is another one just as bad as him and it will all come out after they die. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"In part in the 70s/80s people didn't listen to or believe the victims of sexual crimes. "
Seriously, what is different? Just more ways to abuse. And evidence the police are doing it themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Because those adults who surrounded him enjoying the fruits of his labour also kept their gobs shut. They knew what he was doing and said nothing!!!! To me that makes them also guilty. Who the fuck stands by knowing kids are been sexually abused and says nothing.
Boils my piss. It's still going on but we have to tread carefully in today's society and around the abusers mental health!!!!
Stop the world I wanna get off.
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
He was also very good at deploying the "victim" defence/narrative,they are after me because of jealousy,revenge for some perceived insult,because I'm single never married I must be a wrong 'un etc.Where else have we seen the victim defence in recent weeks?..... |
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There are different views in this thread some level headed and some ill informed hot air blowing by people who know nothing to little and are using the event to take a moral stance.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned much - if at all - is that girls and women were 'fair game' in those times and before and to an extent they still are. That's how most men view women, interact with women and that goes for society not just individuals.
Watch almost any interaction , male 'banter' film or t.v. progs from those times and take on board the roles and exchanges from men to women |
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"There are different views in this thread some level headed and some ill informed hot air blowing by people who know nothing to little and are using the event to take a moral stance.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned much - if at all - is that girls and women were 'fair game' in those times and before and to an extent they still are. That's how most men view women, interact with women and that goes for society not just individuals.
Watch almost any interaction , male 'banter' film or t.v. progs from those times and take on board the roles and exchanges from men to women "
You raise a very fair point of " fair game" throw back from a society being steeped in patriarchy. |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
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A lot of Savilles victims were very young,"women" is stretching it a bit,plus he abused patients in the hospitals he volunteered at,people who were hardly in a fit state to defend themselves "Fair game" only applies to a narrow band of victims. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Apparently he facilitated people in high places to live out their own perverted fantasies. To see him taken down would see them taken down . Cyril Smith springs to mind |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There are different views in this thread some level headed and some ill informed hot air blowing by people who know nothing to little and are using the event to take a moral stance.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned much - if at all - is that girls and women were 'fair game' in those times and before and to an extent they still are. That's how most men view women, interact with women and that goes for society not just individuals.
Watch almost any interaction , male 'banter' film or t.v. progs from those times and take on board the roles and exchanges from men to women "
So very true! |
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"There are different views in this thread some level headed and some ill informed hot air blowing by people who know nothing to little and are using the event to take a moral stance.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned much - if at all - is that girls and women were 'fair game' in those times and before and to an extent they still are. That's how most men view women, interact with women and that goes for society not just individuals.
Watch almost any interaction , male 'banter' film or t.v. progs from those times and take on board the roles and exchanges from men to women "
Ok - you had the 15 year old girls on TOTP that were getting abused, that was still wrong back then but may have been common. However CHILDREN were not fair game. 10 year olds in care homes have never been fair game. He pimped out children and slept with dead bodies ???!!? |
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"Because half the elite are probably at it too. The journalist that outed him has said there is another one just as bad as him and it will all come out after they die."
Yes I have heard this, the journalist is very reliable and honest, therefore I believe he has lots of evidence. If it’s who the rumour is he’s a national treasure and a lot of people will be upset about this one |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Because half the elite are probably at it too. The journalist that outed him has said there is another one just as bad as him and it will all come out after they die.
Yes I have heard this, the journalist is very reliable and honest, therefore I believe he has lots of evidence. If it’s who the rumour is he’s a national treasure and a lot of people will be upset about this one"
I’ve heard who it might be. If true it’ll shock a hell of a lot more than Savile did. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"Different times... No one talked about it, no digital trail/photos. Like anything, easier to get away with! Same goes for all the others that have come to light in recent years."
Pretty much that. Same as grooming gangs, it was common when I was at school in the mid 1980s for gangs of ‘bad lads’ to gobafter all the runaway girls get them on drugs and get them pregnant underage was very common. I remember girls as young as 13/14 scared to go home after school because gangs were waiting and no one did a thing , they called them slags |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
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"The respect for women and girls back then was shocking "
The lack of respect/mysogyny only goes so far.There was a willingness to disbelieve amongst organisations,the Police and the public equally.I have seen in other threads disbelief that any aspect of the Schofield/Edwards stories are true.Looking back at what we know about Saville and his chums(Harris,Hall,Clifford,Talbot etc)the Schofield/Edwards stories have more red flags than a clearance sale at a red flag wholesalers.Absolutely mind boggling that so few people/organisations have learned nothing from Saville et al. |
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"The respect for women and girls back then was shocking
The lack of respect/mysogyny only goes so far.There was a willingness to disbelieve amongst organisations,the Police and the public equally.I have seen in other threads disbelief that any aspect of the Schofield/Edwards stories are true.Looking back at what we know about Saville and his chums(Harris,Hall,Clifford,Talbot etc)the Schofield/Edwards stories have more red flags than a clearance sale at a red flag wholesalers.Absolutely mind boggling that so few people/organisations have learned nothing from Saville et al."
100% agree with you, that is something that has shocked me the past week, some people were quick to defend Edwards/Scholfield a lot of it is due to thier social status |
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"Because half the elite are probably at it too. The journalist that outed him has said there is another one just as bad as him and it will all come out after they die.
Yes I have heard this, the journalist is very reliable and honest, therefore I believe he has lots of evidence. If it’s who the rumour is he’s a national treasure and a lot of people will be upset about this one"
You see, I don’t get this.
If a jorno has all this evidence and they are credible and reliable why on earth are they waiting till the person is dead.
Surely if they have this information they have a duty to go to the police with it.
Why are they waiting till they die when there is no chance of getting some justice.
Am I missing something. |
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"Because half the elite are probably at it too. The journalist that outed him has said there is another one just as bad as him and it will all come out after they die.
Yes I have heard this, the journalist is very reliable and honest, therefore I believe he has lots of evidence. If it’s who the rumour is he’s a national treasure and a lot of people will be upset about this one
You see, I don’t get this.
If a jorno has all this evidence and they are credible and reliable why on earth are they waiting till the person is dead.
Surely if they have this information they have a duty to go to the police with it.
Why are they waiting till they die when there is no chance of getting some justice.
Am I missing something. "
Mainly due to lawyers and this persons social status and power. The person is considered ‘untouchable’. This is why they only got Savile after he was dead |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
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Before any journalist can print in the name of the publication the publications lawyers crawl all over it with a fine tooth comb,any doubt no print,plus they have to consider the impact of any revelations in a future trial,it's just giving ammunition to the defence to claim trial by media,even though judges instruct juries to forget what has been said in the media it's impossible to wipe someone's memory of how a story has developed when all the celeb mates/employer circle the wagon and defend the bad guy. |
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By *okoloshCouple
over a year ago
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"Because half the elite are probably at it too. The journalist that outed him has said there is another one just as bad as him and it will all come out after they die.
Yes I have heard this, the journalist is very reliable and honest, therefore I believe he has lots of evidence. If it’s who the rumour is he’s a national treasure and a lot of people will be upset about this one
You see, I don’t get this.
If a jorno has all this evidence and they are credible and reliable why on earth are they waiting till the person is dead.
Surely if they have this information they have a duty to go to the police with it.
Why are they waiting till they die when there is no chance of getting some justice.
Am I missing something.
Mainly due to lawyers and this persons social status and power. The person is considered ‘untouchable’. This is why they only got Savile after he was dead"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He got away with it because he could,he obviously thought he was untouchable and he was,money speaks volumes
And he passed away before he was exposed for the vile creature he was, so he still got away with it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s scary! I grew up in Leeds, not near him thankfully but I remember there always being loads of community events and kids clubs that he ran. Really is scary to think what he was getting away with for all those years.
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I think people under a certain age I'd say anyone under 50 probably won't remember or know.
But the 70's where a very different era in terms of it seemed to be socially acceptable for old men to letch over young women,carry on film's, sitcoms, comedians and so on...
So today it seems inconceivable that he got away with that kind of behaviour in the public eye unfortunately he was just another dirty old man then.
But he always gave me the creeps didn't stop me writing into Jim'll fix it as a young boy asking to try and score a goal against Pat Jennings.
Sadly the rich, famous and powerful have and always will get away with stuff.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I read something on the net many years ago about the link between those loveable East end gangsters "The krays" and children's homes rent boy sex rings. Lots of peers and celebrities were involved and it had links with the Haut de la Garenne. The article vanished without a trace a bit like loads of the kids involved. It's shocking how many kids in care vanish now and how it's not a major issue. |
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