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China records 52.2 celcius

By *olly_chromatic OP TV/TS over a year ago

Stockport

China has just experienced a temperature of 52.2°C, the highest ever in its recorded history. Over the last several days, many places have had each day break their temperature records, each day breaking the record from the day before.

Putting this into context, the proteins in meat start breaking down at just over 40°C. At above 50°C human beings will literally cook alive unless there is some way to artificially keep cool. With sustained temperatures such as these, life is not possible, mass extinction across large areas of the globe becomes inevitable.

Discuss.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That is actually pretty crazy.

I've been in 40c plus temperatures (in sunlight) and even as sun worshipper it became unbearable.

52c? I'll have to look where it was in China. If it's rural (like a lot if the country is) then RIP.

Never been but I hope they don't have our humidity where it was.

I'll avoid the topic of pollution (completely haven't)... hopefully it will propel them towards some better policies?

(x) doubt.

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By *iscean_dreamMan over a year ago

Llanelli

It was hot enough here when it hit 40, I'd definitely not cope with 52

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By *ittlebirdWoman over a year ago

The Big Smoke

Ouch

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By *arakiss12TV/TS over a year ago

Bedford

Is it just heat from the sun and beneath the surface aswell, possibly gamma rays cooking the earth internally, like an egg in microwave.

Haven't checked the volcanic activity, did hear Iceland had some activity.

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"China has just experienced a temperature of 52.2°C, the highest ever in its recorded history. Over the last several days, many places have had each day break their temperature records, each day breaking the record from the day before.

Discuss.

People have lived in deserts with those temperatures for millions of years. Nowadays we have chillers in the apartments, restaurants even outside areas and the clouds are seeded to make it rain. Projects like The Line in Saudi harness the suns heat to provide carbon free cities

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

Covid gave us some new words to throw about and make us sound like experts.

Pretty soon you'll be hearing about the wet bulb temperature, I know, I know, bloody scientists.

The human body is an incredibly designed machine. But we have our limits too. So why am I mentioning wet bulb temps. Because humans die when wbt reaches a certain threshold. Your own internal cooling mechanism (sweat) stops working.

This is all new territory for us humans and we're not sure what the lethal wbt is, but we're going to find out soon.

The good news it probably won't get to lethal levels in the UK for maybe 10 years. So don't panic just yet. WBT will likely kill humans in the Indian subcontinent and Arab peninsula first.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Where did you get that information from Polly ?

I can't find it ( i've only Googled so far ) but the max temp in China seems to have been 41 in 2022

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By *obilebottomMan over a year ago

All over

Discuss.

Flabbergusted by all these amazing stuff

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Just looked again and found it on some blokes Twitter but nowhere official , as yet.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

It hit 55+ in 1973 in the turpan and uygar regions ...

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Just looked again and found it on some blokes Twitter but nowhere official , as yet. "
Temps could hit 60 and China would still deny it.

From the guardian.

The UK’s met office said that China had provisionally recorded its highest temperature ever on Sunday. It said Sanbao, in western Xinjiang region, reached 52.2 degrees.

??? Dangerous levels of heat are affecting parts of North America, Asia and southern Europe

?? China provisionally recorded it's highest temperature on record on Sunday and some Mediterranean countries will challenge their respective records this week pic.twitter.com/zuD4rFEgng

— Met Office (@metoffice) July 16, 2023

Sanbao is in the Turpan basin, a below-sea level depression with a desert that has recorded some of the most extreme temperature variations in China, from temperatures well below zero in winter to baking summers.

The met office did not provide a source for the temperature, which was not reported by Chinese state media.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"It hit 55+ in 1973 in the turpan and uygar regions ... "

That's Turpan and Kumul, located in the Xinjiang Uygur

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By *obilebottomMan over a year ago

All over

"It hit 55+ in 1973 in the turpan and uygar regions ...

That's Turpan and Kumul, located in the Xinjiang Uygur "

Try saying that after a few g&ts

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think even if you can’t verify this specific thing, the temperatures we’ve experienced in this little island should tell you that the planet is fucked. We’re fucked. Our kids and their kids are fucked. People don’t care. Governments don’t care. It’s depressing and sad.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Covid gave us some new words to throw about and make us sound like experts.

Pretty soon you'll be hearing about the wet bulb temperature, I know, I know, bloody scientists.

This is all new territory for us humans and we're not sure what the lethal wbt is, but we're going to find out soon.

The good news it probably won't get to lethal levels in the UK for maybe 10 years. So don't panic just yet. WBT will likely kill humans in the Indian subcontinent and Arab peninsula first."

Is wbt a real thing?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh i saw that too. Insane - I'm still shocked that we had more heat records in July

I don't think there is a solution... People can't smell extinction - we are likecfrogs at the moment i think? It may be a good thing.

Perhaps we'll blend with AI, like we've seen in films - then we won't need food, so we won't need animals, so i guess we won't need to work... We'll live inside computer controlled and built buildings and experience everything through an interface... maybe that is our future ?

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"I think even if you can’t verify this specific thing, the temperatures we’ve experienced in this little island should tell you that the planet is fucked. We’re fucked. Our kids and their kids are fucked. People don’t care. Governments don’t care. It’s depressing and sad. "

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren."

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them. "

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Covid gave us some new words to throw about and make us sound like experts.

Pretty soon you'll be hearing about the wet bulb temperature, I know, I know, bloody scientists.

This is all new territory for us humans and we're not sure what the lethal wbt is, but we're going to find out soon.

The good news it probably won't get to lethal levels in the UK for maybe 10 years. So don't panic just yet. WBT will likely kill humans in the Indian subcontinent and Arab peninsula first.

Is wbt a real thing? "

Wet Bulb Temperature is a real thing. It's a combination measurement of humidity and air temp. And the number is lower than the air temp. But why it matters is, 1. we're so close to lethal WBT and 2. Humans will not be able to cool down. Polly wrote mass human extinctions, humans will die quickly in very large numbers.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them. "

I think people are inherently selfish and would rather cling onto what they have than budge an inch

Judt ask anyone to give up their car, have a 15 mins city, stop holidaying by air, give uo single use plastic, or god-forbid - go vegan

Its 'too much' for them, therefore there is no alternative unless there is a miracle

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Discuss.

Electric cars is the answer... And turning down the boiler by 1 degree.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ? "

Hello officer,

As well as making lifestyle changes I am also donating to a group to support them. I actually have also bought ‘this is not a drillI’ the extinction rebellion manifesto book to also read more about the issue and how it affects marginalised communities around the world more.

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

I think people are inherently selfish and would rather cling onto what they have than budge an inch

Judt ask anyone to give up their car, have a 15 mins city, stop holidaying by air, give uo single use plastic, or god-forbid - go vegan

Its 'too much' for them, therefore there is no alternative unless there is a miracle "

It's easy to think that. Covid showed us that people don't like changing their lives for the benefit of others. I don't believe in miracles but I do think some changes can be made that can make a difference.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

That should fix it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

Officer, I’m not the one that’s in denial that the issue exists. Like many people are. Climate change deniers are all over the place.

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By *atnip make me purrWoman over a year ago

Reading

"Covid gave us some new words to throw about and make us sound like experts.

Pretty soon you'll be hearing about the wet bulb temperature, I know, I know, bloody scientists.

This is all new territory for us humans and we're not sure what the lethal wbt is, but we're going to find out soon.

The good news it probably won't get to lethal levels in the UK for maybe 10 years. So don't panic just yet. WBT will likely kill humans in the Indian subcontinent and Arab peninsula first."

Thanks for that I hadn't heard of the term before. Scarey times ahead.

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By *ostindreamsMan over a year ago

London

Wow that's insane heat. I grew up in a place where we get 40 degrees for over a month in summer and that was terrible. 52 is the temperature where I wouldn't walk outside

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

That should fix it

I think donating to groups taking action is a good way to support actually.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

I think people are inherently selfish and would rather cling onto what they have than budge an inch

Judt ask anyone to give up their car, have a 15 mins city, stop holidaying by air, give uo single use plastic, or god-forbid - go vegan

Its 'too much' for them, therefore there is no alternative unless there is a miracle

Just stop buying cheap shit from china would be a good start

.. Oh and summer hols to magaluf...

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

Officer, I’m not the one that’s in denial that the issue exists. Like many people are. Climate change deniers are all over the place. "

Do you think people deny that our climate has changed or that we can influence it?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

Yes! I would like to take you in for more questioning. Specially as you are calling me officer.

What lifestyle changes have you made ?

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

I'm disappointed but not surprised by the responses of some in the thread so far.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

Officer, I’m not the one that’s in denial that the issue exists. Like many people are. Climate change deniers are all over the place.

Do you think people deny that our climate has changed or that we can influence it? "

Literally there are plenty of people that don’t believe the extent of the issue or that it exists at all. Running countries too some of them.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

but I did say 'EFFECTIVE' action Pickle.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

Yes! I would like to take you in for more questioning. Specially as you are calling me officer.

What lifestyle changes have you made ?"

Well unless you’re arresting me for a crime I’d like to politely decline.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'm disappointed but not surprised by the responses of some in the thread so far. "

What disappointed you and why ?

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

That should fix it

I think donating to groups taking action is a good way to support actually. "

It is. Much better than doing it yourself. Pay others to do it. (not having a dig by the way) just so many think tokens are going to make a significant difference. And before you ask... No im not doing much that matters... Drive less..fly less... Buy less but in the scheme of things makes fuck all difference

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"but I did say 'EFFECTIVE' action Pickle."

I’m not doing a single thing. Fuck them kids

(Hope you understood that reference)

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Wow that's insane heat. I grew up in a place where we get 40 degrees for over a month in summer and that was terrible. 52 is the temperature where I wouldn't walk outside "

It's high 40s in arizona, people falling, think toddlers and old people are now also having to be treated for burns from the ground.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

Yes! I would like to take you in for more questioning. Specially as you are calling me officer.

What lifestyle changes have you made ?

Well unless you’re arresting me for a crime I’d like to politely decline. "

Accepted.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"but I did say 'EFFECTIVE' action Pickle.

I’m not doing a single thing. Fuck them kids

(Hope you understood that reference)"

No I never

I just laughed. Mainly because I intuited you were b.s. ing

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

I definitely think buying more slogan t shirts shipped around the world with no footprint at all is the way to go

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

That should fix it

I think donating to groups taking action is a good way to support actually.

I’m not going to ask you. I’m not a fed.

I stand by my comment- a lot of people do not care because it doesn’t impact them. I’ve interacted with those people online and in person.

And it’s not that I don’t want to. Well it is. But that is impacted by decisions I’ve made in relation to being able to give up time when I work and am a parent to a small child, not wanting to get arrested for partaking in some forms of disobedience etc. so I think it’s good to support those that can and will give themselves to the cause so they have the resources to do so. That’s my opinion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

Yes! I would like to take you in for more questioning. Specially as you are calling me officer.

What lifestyle changes have you made ?

Well unless you’re arresting me for a crime I’d like to politely decline.

Accepted. "

Some good apples do exist

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"but I did say 'EFFECTIVE' action Pickle.

I’m not doing a single thing. Fuck them kids

(Hope you understood that reference)

No I never

I just laughed. Mainly because I intuited you were b.s. ing "

It’s a funny Michael Jordan meme.

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"I'm disappointed but not surprised by the responses of some in the thread so far.

What disappointed you and why ?"

Did you think that comment might have included you?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"I'm disappointed but not surprised by the responses of some in the thread so far.

What disappointed you and why ?

Did you think that comment might have included you?"

Not at all.

What disappointed you and why ? I didn't ask who ?

Pointless saying you are disappointed unless you share the cause of your disappointment.

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By *obilebottomMan over a year ago

All over

"I'm disappointed but not surprised by the responses of some in the thread so far. "

To be fair these would probably be representative of a discussion of any group of individuals. What is surprising is the inertia at global level which is the only way to tackle this in some way. Whether someone goes on another holiday or turn the heating down 1° is neither here or there although still good to make you feel you are doing something when the ones above constantly procrastinate. Sadly there is too much conflict and financial implications that affect different countries in different ways so I am not holding my breath

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By *AYENCouple over a year ago

Lincolnshire

Buying a book or giving a few quid to some organisation won't change anything. The world's population would have to agree to give up central heating, air conditioning, their beloved cars, phones and computers, no new clothes, and no highly processed foods (that's basically anything that comes in a plastic wrapper), no TV's or game stations. That's probably just a small drop in the ocean, we would have to revert back to life last seen in the middle ages. Do you think 'everyone' will agree to that, because the last time I looked people couldn't even agree on whether a fanny should be hairy or not - there won't be a choice with the one and only solution, because razors, aerosol foams and hot water won't be available either.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To put into even more context - records for temperatures only began less than 100 years ago.

This isn’t the hottest temperature China has ever had. Not at all.

We know that the world has been much much hotter (and much much colder) than it is currently, even during the times of humans, and certainly during our evolution.

People need to chill out and instead of saying stupid things like “humans will literally cook alive” (we won’t), start realising that we can adapt to changes. We are a resilient species and even more so given the technology that exists now.

We should also use our abilities to help other species too. But yeah, all this panicking as fear mongering is stupid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Buying a book or giving a few quid to some organisation won't change anything. The world's population would have to agree to give up central heating, air conditioning, their beloved cars, phones and computers, no new clothes, and no highly processed foods (that's basically anything that comes in a plastic wrapper), no TV's or game stations. That's probably just a small drop in the ocean, we would have to revert back to life last seen in the middle ages. Do you think 'everyone' will agree to that, because the last time I looked people couldn't even agree on whether a fanny should be hairy or not - there won't be a choice with the one and only solution, because razors, aerosol foams and hot water won't be available either."

You can reply + quote

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Which contributes to global warming more Kayen ? Fuzzy Fanny or Fuzzless?

I could add that to my list of actions ?

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By *mf123Man over a year ago

with one foot out the door

Bring me sunshine

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Bring me sunshine"

It's pissing down here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"That is actually pretty crazy.

I've been in 40c plus temperatures (in sunlight) and even as sun worshipper it became unbearable.

52c? I'll have to look where it was in China. If it's rural (like a lot if the country is) then RIP.

It’s in a desert that has always been hot

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By *mf123Man over a year ago

with one foot out the door

"Bring me sunshine

It's pissing down here"
same

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I'm not sure whether to build an igloo or a boat ......

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By *AYENCouple over a year ago

Lincolnshire

You can reply + quote"

I know, I didn't need to quote anyone, I just wanted to express that people will moan, probably blame the government/s and others like China, but not be prepared to make the sweeping changes required to save the planet. Anything short of complete reversion back to the middle ages won't help.

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By *AYENCouple over a year ago

Lincolnshire

"Which contributes to global warming more Kayen ? Fuzzy Fanny or Fuzzless?

I could add that to my list of actions ?"

Well, I would think a fuzzy fanny contributes more to personal warming and less to global warming

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By *rHotNottsMan over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Discuss.

Flabbergusted by all these amazing stuff"

People have this odd view that Europe and America are leading the way in tech etc , Middle East is way way ahead not just on adapting to climate change but things like water and electricity production, transport , reduce reliance on diesel, identity and authentication, crime , healthcare etc.

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

Yet China still keep opening coal fire power stations.

We need to parachute in some skilled JSO operatives to slow walk in the Shanghai smog.

We are fucked

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By *wisted999Man over a year ago

North Bucks

Discuss.

Flabbergusted by all these amazing stuff

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sounds hot,…. I’m in.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Discuss.

Flabbergusted by all these amazing stuff

I guess what will happen over time, all over the globe, is that the rich will be benefit from theses advances and others, and will colonise parts of the world and live in a protective environment... Whilst the poorer peeps won't have access to all/some of these resources and will live shorter, sicker, uncomfortable lives?

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By *atnip make me purrWoman over a year ago

Reading

Discuss.

Flabbergusted by all these amazing stuff

So BAU.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Discuss.

Flabbergusted by all these amazing stuff

So BAU."

Pretty much.. But i think that's where the thread started right? Business as normal because people are inherently selfish and unwilling to change.. Even as the ship sinks around them

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By *hGlobbitsMan over a year ago

Liverpool

Remember it's not the message of JSO, it was how they went about it.

It is depressing, I wrote on an other thread that in effect people are saying a big fuck you to their children and grandchildren.

I think people can’t even comprehend that we’re making life difficult for future generations because it won’t affect them.

So what effective action are you taking Pickle ?

Hello officer,

Is that ok Officer? Would you like to take me in for further questioning?

That should fix it

Got any better ideas?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I haven't looked into if it's true or not. There is definetly some agenda being pushed ATM though. Youtube ads: Climate crisis followed by an electric car advert.

Even IF we are on a continual heating up phase of the earth I'd suggest We likely can't "fix" the issue anyway as I tend to think it's mostly natural.

Adapt and shade

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The people with the power to change this have known long before the public did and accelerated anyway. When humanity fails, blame the gas and oil giants. Who have been part of the development of "personal responsibility" as a gambit. "Why no, plebs, we won't reduce our massive profits, how tyrannical of you to suggest so, even if it would save humanity. Have you tried completely upending your life so we can tell you it's still not good enough, for one billionth of the benefits of us being less greedy?"

And the upcoming refugee crises - the same people who support the greed of the oil companies and diminish anyone trying to do something will cream themselves as more and more people drown and governments get crueller towards people who just want to live.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The people with the power to change this have known long before the public did and accelerated anyway. When humanity fails, blame the gas and oil giants. Who have been part of the development of "personal responsibility" as a gambit. "Why no, plebs, we won't reduce our massive profits, how tyrannical of you to suggest so, even if it would save humanity. Have you tried completely upending your life so we can tell you it's still not good enough, for one billionth of the benefits of us being less greedy?"

Finally. You’re awake.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Finally. You’re awake. "

I've been "awake" to this longer than you've been alive

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

Finally. You’re awake.

I've been "awake" to this longer than you've been alive

Pickle is memeing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Finally. You’re awake.

I've been "awake" to this longer than you've been alive

Pickle is memeing"

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By *otSoPoshWoman over a year ago

In a ball gown because that's how we roll in N. Devon

Just fuck that.

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By *aitonelMan over a year ago

Liverpool

"Just fuck that.

A bit too warm to fuck

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By *idnight RamblerMan over a year ago

Pershore

This has been a trend in China for decades. Every year the Gobi desert encroaches on Beijing bringing a toxic mix of pollution and dust storms. The air is literally blue/grey some days with a metallic taste.

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Just fuck that.

A bit too warm to fuck"

I think more rainfall is predicted for uk & Ireland as the result of climate change. So maybe

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just fuck that.

A bit too warm to fuck

I think more rainfall is predicted for uk & Ireland as the result of climate change. So maybe"

Predictions from who? What is there previous success record? Who/what paid for the studies, could they be pushing an agenda?

Covid taught me to trust my gut and look deep into things like "predictions" and where they come from or if they are simply modelled on inaccurate or insufficient information

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By *inky_couple2020Couple over a year ago

North West

I was in 46°C this time last week. Dry heat. Bloody hot, but survivable/doable. I'm not sure 52°C would be doable.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I was in 46°C this time last week. Dry heat. Bloody hot, but survivable/doable. I'm not sure 52°C would be doable. "

I experienced 48 about ten or so years ago. Not super dry but not very humid. It was pretty miserable and moving was not pleasant

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By *oggoneMan over a year ago

Derry

"Just fuck that.

A bit too warm to fuck

I think more rainfall is predicted for uk & Ireland as the result of climate change. So maybe

Predictions from who? What is there previous success record? Who/what paid for the studies, could they be pushing an agenda?

Covid taught me to trust my gut and look deep into things like "predictions" and where they come from or if they are simply modelled on inaccurate or insufficient information"

Covid taught me to limit my engagement with people like you.

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By *TG3Man over a year ago

Dorchester

Discuss.

Ps. Anybody attempting to explain that trying to fix the situation is too expensive - please tell me what else the money can be used for when the majority of the human race are dead and money is just worthless records on computers that no longer exist."
The process of natural evolution and where better a place to start than the place that has over populated the world, its natures way, we can't sustain increasing populations

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just fuck that.

A bit too warm to fuck

I think more rainfall is predicted for uk & Ireland as the result of climate change. So maybe

Predictions from who? What is there previous success record? Who/what paid for the studies, could they be pushing an agenda?

Covid taught me to trust my gut and look deep into things like "predictions" and where they come from or if they are simply modelled on inaccurate or insufficient information

Covid taught me to limit my engagement with people like you."

Eh what? I'm suggesting go see where the predictions are from and if there is an agenda. If you looked at data from large, dense populations i.e prisons, military bases you would see something different than UK predictions. If you visited somewhere like Sweden during 2020 you'd have seen a completely different approach without the total armegeddon. Just saying be mindful what your taking in.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Yet China still keep opening coal fire power stations.

We need to parachute in some skilled JSO operatives to slow walk in the Shanghai smog.

We are fucked "

Well yes. China are wellbknown for their tolerance of protestors

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Discuss.

Flabbergusted by all these amazing stuff

Isnt that already happening.?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Just fuck that.

A bit too warm to fuck

I think more rainfall is predicted for uk & Ireland as the result of climate change. So maybe

Predictions from who? What is there previous success record? Who/what paid for the studies, could they be pushing an agenda?

Covid taught me to trust my gut and look deep into things like "predictions" and where they come from or if they are simply modelled on inaccurate or insufficient information

Covid taught me to limit my engagement with people like you.

Ah, Sweden.

Yeah. That went real well

Being mindful of what you're taking in goes both ways, tbh.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Everyone is free to change. But wont and dont. Blaming others because we demand internet and clothes and goods and cars and holidays and so on isnt anyone elses fault but our own... And yet... Easier to blame someone else.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just fuck that.

A bit too warm to fuck

I think more rainfall is predicted for uk & Ireland as the result of climate change. So maybe

Predictions from who? What is there previous success record? Who/what paid for the studies, could they be pushing an agenda?

Covid taught me to trust my gut and look deep into things like "predictions" and where they come from or if they are simply modelled on inaccurate or insufficient information

Covid taught me to limit my engagement with people like you.

Ah, Sweden.

Yeah. That went real well

Being mindful of what you're taking in goes both ways, tbh."

Yeah I was there in September 2020. Stockholm. The place was packed with tourists whilst the UK had people driving there cars with masks... If our predictions ar the the time were to be believed they're hospitals would have been over ran by multiple times. I do believe they're numbers per million (deaths) were similar for a while but now are way better than ours now. They admit to getting it wrong with the elderly homes...

Don't believe what you see or read unless you see it for yourself or are willing to do the homework.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Covid gave us some new words to throw about and make us sound like experts.

Pretty soon you'll be hearing about the wet bulb temperature, I know, I know, bloody scientists.

This is all new territory for us humans and we're not sure what the lethal wbt is, but we're going to find out soon.

The good news it probably won't get to lethal levels in the UK for maybe 10 years. So don't panic just yet. WBT will likely kill humans in the Indian subcontinent and Arab peninsula first."

it's not really new territory at all. humans have experience and thrived through hotter global temperatures many times. the Romans had a warming period for 3-500 years where the temperature was 2% hotter than it is today (experts have warned 1.5% is the point of no return for humans( and their empire thrived the weather enabled crops to grow and they had vineyards in England woohoo

remember acid rain killing everything, gas running out by the seventies, crops failing by the nineties, the hole in the ozone layer killing us all the list literally goes on and on of these major predicted crisis that never happened but we all paid tax and you might sleep a bit better.

above all though if you're actually worried about climate change plant some trees. literally plant some co2 recycling machines in your garden and get your friends and family to do the same.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

So we can't blame the people who've known about this for fifty years because we have to live in a society that has reliance on oil baked into it? That's bullshit.

If the oil and gas industry had been proactive when they'd known (at least fifty years ago) we'd be in a much better position and all they would have lost is some of their obscene profits.

Instead they helped develop notions like personal responsibility ("carbon footprint" being invented by BP) so you can blame me for existing in society, when nothing I can do would make a trillionth of the difference that these companies could have made.

I don't fly, I don't drive, I don't have children, I don't eat out, I minimise my power use, I make my own soap etc etc. And yet somehow you say I'm avoiding responsibility and blaming someone else - for recognising that my efforts are like trying to save the Titanic with a thimble, when the owners should have done better safety checks and the captain should have heeded the warning of an iceberg.

Give me a fucking break.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Lets say the well promoted co2 is the culprit for the warming...

Why aren't we planting trees all over... Going to war with Brazil for not stopping the rainforest for being demolished? We do love a good war so wouldn't that be a valid reason?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lets say the well promoted co2 is the culprit for the warming...

Why aren't we planting trees all over... Going to war with Brazil for not stopping the rainforest for being demolished? We do love a good war so wouldn't that be a valid reason?

exactly. if you have enough trees in your country to recycle your co2 output then you have net zero no taxes just lovely green trees

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By *adMerWoman over a year ago

Sandwich

Despite being aware that our climate and indeed our entire planet is in flux, I am actually more than hopeful for humanity. Note I said humanity, not just a bag of skin and bones inhabited by a “demon”.

I recycle as much as possible. I waste little. I have created a bio diverse garden. I don’t fly abroad.

I have done as much as I can personally, without eating roadkill

Those that are left in ten years time will be reaping the rewards of an enlightened and spiritually connected world. Others will be living in their own personal hell.

Or I could just be completely crazy, if so crazy is preferable to “sane”.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Truth is we live in a massively corrupt country. Things such as, gifts/presents (only recently has to be disclosed)to politicians, MP's from companies or wealthy figures is legal so that somehow makes people think it's okay. It's corruption just legalised corruption

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Lets say the well promoted co2 is the culprit for the warming...

Why aren't we planting trees all over... Going to war with Brazil for not stopping the rainforest for being demolished? We do love a good war so wouldn't that be a valid reason?

exactly. if you have enough trees in your country to recycle your co2 output then you have net zero no taxes just lovely green trees

If it had been started in the 1970's when I believe they had the first wave of this climate change (then global warming) push...

Just making the point. Personally I'm not sure it's CO2. Certainly not from human production anyway... But I do like trees.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Just fuck that.

A bit too warm to fuck

I think more rainfall is predicted for uk & Ireland as the result of climate change. So maybe

Predictions from who? What is there previous success record? Who/what paid for the studies, could they be pushing an agenda?

Covid taught me to trust my gut and look deep into things like "predictions" and where they come from or if they are simply modelled on inaccurate or insufficient information

Covid taught me to limit my engagement with people like you.

Ah, Sweden.

Yeah. That went real well

Being mindful of what you're taking in goes both ways, tbh.

Don't believe what you see or read unless you see it for yourself or are willing to do the homework. "

So people were having funsicles and that's all that matters.

The health outcomes in Sweden compared to other Nordic countries were and continue to be inferior. Hey ho

I still wear a respirator btw. Because I've done my homework and know that we've known about immune damage from Covid infections since July 2020 (yes I know it was deffo the kill shots which didn't exist in July 2020) and more besides.

I know some are screaming for even respirator bans and the end of remote work. Could that be because it's bad for us, or because governments and lobbying groups are obsessed with the economy and don't give a shit about your health?

I know you'll say I'm a sheeple. Yes. I'm usually the only one in a respirator. I'm totally following the herd, because words don't mean things

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Yup. Oil companies give the government money, therefore oil profit is more important than the survival of humanity.

And humans are stupid and selfish, therefore they don't think the problems in Asia have anything to do with them, and prefer short term fun over the survival of their children.

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By *ts the taking part thatMan over a year ago

southampton

"It hit 55+ in 1973 in the turpan and uygar regions ... "

Exactly, loads of historical high temputures but now it's mass panic to justify taxes & the huge employment it brings to so called experts.

It's a phase, it,ll pass & be more normal in a year or two.

Climate change undoubtedly is happening but our actions undoubtedly will make absolutely no difference.

Enjoy the sun.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So people were having funsicles and that's all that matters.

The health outcomes in Sweden compared to other Nordic countries were and continue to be inferior. Hey ho

I know you'll say I'm a sheeple. Yes. I'm usually the only one in a respirator. I'm totally following the herd, because words don't mean things

Let people do what they want just give people correct information to decide for themselves.

I'm personally very wary of people trying to avoid Covid. You build an immune system by getting things like Covid and alike. It's like running up hills for hours. You won't enjoy it but it will be better for you.

But yes I agree, the government does NOT have your health or best interests at heart. Nor should they dictate what is best for your health either, mind

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So people were having funsicles and that's all that matters.

The health outcomes in Sweden compared to other Nordic countries were and continue to be inferior. Hey ho

I know you'll say I'm a sheeple. Yes. I'm usually the only one in a respirator. I'm totally following the herd, because words don't mean things

Let people do what they want just give people correct information to decide for themselves.

But yes I agree, the government does NOT have your health or best interests at heart. Nor should they dictate what is best for your health either, mind"

So a disease we know damages our immune systems is best caught?

I suppose it fits. Funsicles and economy over health

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So people were having funsicles and that's all that matters.

The health outcomes in Sweden compared to other Nordic countries were and continue to be inferior. Hey ho

I know you'll say I'm a sheeple. Yes. I'm usually the only one in a respirator. I'm totally following the herd, because words don't mean things

Let people do what they want just give people correct information to decide for themselves.

But yes I agree, the government does NOT have your health or best interests at heart. Nor should they dictate what is best for your health either, mind

So a disease we know damages our immune systems is best caught?

I suppose it fits. Funsicles and economy over health

That is far too simple an answer!

I'd say fun is good for your health, ... I'd also say fun contributes to happiness and the economy. Does it not strengthen your immune system like other coronaviruses? Why is 19 so special

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By *atnip make me purrWoman over a year ago

Reading

"Which contributes to global warming more Kayen ? Fuzzy Fanny or Fuzzless?

I could add that to my list of actions ?"

Has to be fuzzless due to the razor used.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So people were having funsicles and that's all that matters.

The health outcomes in Sweden compared to other Nordic countries were and continue to be inferior. Hey ho

I know you'll say I'm a sheeple. Yes. I'm usually the only one in a respirator. I'm totally following the herd, because words don't mean things

Let people do what they want just give people correct information to decide for themselves.

But yes I agree, the government does NOT have your health or best interests at heart. Nor should they dictate what is best for your health either, mind

So a disease we know damages our immune systems is best caught?

I suppose it fits. Funsicles and economy over health

That is far too simple an answer!

I'd say fun is good for your health, ... I'd also say fun contributes to happiness and the economy. Does it not strengthen your immune system like other coronaviruses? Why is 19 so special"

Because the evidence says so?

Why do deniers remove MERS and SARS from this question? They're also coronaviruses

We've known since July 2020 that Covid reduces production of CD4 cells. A catastrophic loss of CD4 cells results in disease outcomes like AIDS.

It also reduces production of CD8 cells, which help inhibit cancers.

If you wanna fuck around with that because Boris says it's fine and Sunak says we should get moving and back to the office, be my guest. Or because "some coronaviruses are colds therefore it's fine" - I'm not sure why anyone is persuaded by that thin gruel of reasoning.

You do you, and people will continue to shout at me for my respirator. Whatever.

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By *DGF20Man over a year ago

Dublin

Too much climate change bullshits these days

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not denying anything. Everyone should just do their thing ad decide what is best for themselves.

You must not forget there are way more downsides to protecting from one infection/disease. Lonliness for example can and does kill people. Boredom, lethargy, poor motivation. Being unfit, static. Not too mention not socialising stops you getting/transmitting other infections diseases which helps your immune system. If Covid is a problem for you, yes shelter from it. Other than that let people do them. Same with the Climate...

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

We live in a world dominated by those in charge who want the status quo

. And who care little, if at all, about the majority of us.

That's why so little is being done about this.

It's scary that we could have achieved so much more but didn't quite bother.

Hottest ever and we're just scratching the surface

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I'm not denying anything. Everyone should just do their thing ad decide what is best for themselves.

If I had a planet to move to where I was proportionally affected by climate change by the amount I try to make a difference, I would.

And don't worry. I know in 2020 people cried that the closure of the pubs would destroy strong noble mental health because it hurt their feelings. Those who choose to protect themselves have found other ways to occupy themselves and have fun - we don't need the societal support and approval that the big strong noble people do.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"Too much climate change bullshits these days "

Too much denier bullshit has got us to this position

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Too much climate change bullshits these days

Too much denier bullshit has got us to this position "

So much. Jesus

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not denying anything. Everyone should just do their thing ad decide what is best for themselves.

If I had a planet to move to where I was proportionally affected by climate change by the amount I try to make a difference, I would.

Don't you dare... You seem unbelievably narrow minded or simply selfish

I spent nearly 2 years almost completely by myself waiting to get a life I built back... only for it too be totally taken away. I'm excellent at being on my own but even I struggle with not being around people I want to be around.

Some people are naturally social and/or have a need to explore the world. Having this put on hold or simply unable to socially mix with people was and did destroy people. Literal self harm or suicide. I know many people put on anti-depressants during Covid and still not right.

Good for you, that you have things to occupy yourself. The things myself and others enjoy need travel and real life social interactions.

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By *ilfCrumpet9Man over a year ago

Wirral

Slowly but surely destroying the planet we depend upon. This is probably the start of the worst to come

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Covid gave us some new words to throw about and make us sound like experts.

Pretty soon you'll be hearing about the wet bulb temperature, I know, I know, bloody scientists.

This is all new territory for us humans and we're not sure what the lethal wbt is, but we're going to find out soon.

The good news it probably won't get to lethal levels in the UK for maybe 10 years. So don't panic just yet. WBT will likely kill humans in the Indian subcontinent and Arab peninsula first.

above all though if you're actually worried about climate change plant some trees. literally plant some co2 recycling machines in your garden and get your friends and family to do the same.

Where's your sources for the higher temperatures during roman times..?

All the data shows the world was cooler than now. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I'm not denying anything. Everyone should just do their thing ad decide what is best for themselves.

If I had a planet to move to where I was proportionally affected by climate change by the amount I try to make a difference, I would.

Don't you dare... You seem unbelievably narrow minded or simply selfish

Good for you, that you have things to occupy yourself. The things myself and others enjoy need travel and real life social interactions.

Oh I dare.

There are plenty of people who have similar needs to you who are in their fourth year of lockdown. People who are facing prosecution because they can't return their clinically vulnerable children to schools where Covid remains rife.

But allowing them to return to society without risking death is a bit like combatting climate change. It requires people to give a fuck about anyone but themselves. So nah. They can lock themselves up, as many said "wetting themselves behind their sofa", or they can risk death, because our bwave nobwe fee fees.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Slowly but surely destroying the planet we depend upon. This is probably the start of the worst to come "

Who is? Why be so negative?

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Slowly but surely destroying the planet we depend upon. This is probably the start of the worst to come

Who is? Why be so negative? "

Well, you need twavel, so fuck the kids needing to survive. Fee fees!

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By *DGF20Man over a year ago

Dublin

"Too much climate change bullshits these days

Too much denier bullshit has got us to this position

So much. Jesus "

Yeah so much, unbelievable

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By *astandFeistyCouple over a year ago

Bournemouth

"I'm not denying anything. Everyone should just do their thing ad decide what is best for themselves.

If I had a planet to move to where I was proportionally affected by climate change by the amount I try to make a difference, I would.

Don't you dare... You seem unbelievably narrow minded or simply selfish

Good for you, that you have things to occupy yourself. The things myself and others enjoy need travel and real life social interactions.

Oh I dare.

Just more emotive language without giving a fuck about the other side of the argument.

You only care about the people who think the same way you do. How very liberal of you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh I dare.

You cannot fear death to the point you can't live. Thatv is the worst disease of all.

Again if all these people worrying about people emiiting co2 got of their arse and planted trees we'd be fine. But your all too lazy whinging at people for wanting to live.

If you think people should still be in any form of Lockdown for 4 years... What is wrong with you

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I'm not denying anything. Everyone should just do their thing ad decide what is best for themselves.

If I had a planet to move to where I was proportionally affected by climate change by the amount I try to make a difference, I would.

Don't you dare... You seem unbelievably narrow minded or simply selfish

Good for you, that you have things to occupy yourself. The things myself and others enjoy need travel and real life social interactions.

Oh I dare.

Just more emotive language without giving a fuck about the other side of the argument.

You only care about the people who think the same way you do. How very liberal of you."

When I give a fuck about whether people to the right of my politics deem me liberal enough, I'll let you know. (I am not calling you any particular political name. I'm saying you're to the right of me. Which is undeniable looking at our various posts)

Meanwhile, the paradox of tolerance has severe limits, and "tolerate me contributing to an unsafe society for people not like me" is well past those limits.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Meanwhile, the paradox of tolerance has severe limits, and "tolerate me contributing to an unsafe society for people not like me" is well past those limits.

Now your doing the "right" labelling thing. I think you maybe the most brainwashed person their is. I don't think you have the ability to think for yourself. Maybe you just lead a very sheltered life but it's clear you don't have much empathy for others

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By *astandFeistyCouple over a year ago

Bournemouth

"I'm not denying anything. Everyone should just do their thing ad decide what is best for themselves.

If I had a planet to move to where I was proportionally affected by climate change by the amount I try to make a difference, I would.

Don't you dare... You seem unbelievably narrow minded or simply selfish

Good for you, that you have things to occupy yourself. The things myself and others enjoy need travel and real life social interactions.

Oh I dare.

Just more emotive language without giving a fuck about the other side of the argument.

You only care about the people who think the same way you do. How very liberal of you.

Meanwhile, the paradox of tolerance has severe limits, and "tolerate me contributing to an unsafe society for people not like me" is well past those limits."

Most people are to the right of you, you describe yourself as Far Left.

You're happy admitting that you don't give a fuck someone's mental health because they see the world in a different way to you.

Maybe that's the 'far' in your ideology. I'd prefer to take a balanced view and let others live how they wish.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Oh I dare.

You cannot fear death to the point you can't live. Thatv is the worst disease of all.

Again if all these people worrying about people emiiting co2 got of their arse and planted trees we'd be fine. But your all too lazy whinging at people for wanting to live.

If you think people should still be in any form of Lockdown for 4 years... What is wrong with you"

I know people who are in lockdown and have been so since February 2020. The fact that you can't imagine it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with me.

If you can only imagine "living" in terms of destroying the planet and mindlessly spreading disease, then I suggest you have a failure of imagination.

You also have a failure of imagination and perspective about the scale of the problem of climate change and why - like Covid - it's a problem that we'll all have to reckon with. You also have CD4 and CD8 cells, even if you're not aware of them, and screaming immunity debt or vaccines are icky doesn't make you immune to the cumulative harms of infection.

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By *naswingdressWoman over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I'm not denying anything. Everyone should just do their thing ad decide what is best for themselves.

If I had a planet to move to where I was proportionally affected by climate change by the amount I try to make a difference, I would.

Don't you dare... You seem unbelievably narrow minded or simply selfish

Good for you, that you have things to occupy yourself. The things myself and others enjoy need travel and real life social interactions.

Oh I dare.

Just more emotive language without giving a fuck about the other side of the argument.

You only care about the people who think the same way you do. How very liberal of you.

Meanwhile, the paradox of tolerance has severe limits, and "tolerate me contributing to an unsafe society for people not like me" is well past those limits.

Most people are to the right of you, you describe yourself as Far Left.

You're happy admitting that you don't give a fuck someone's mental health because they see the world in a different way to you.

Maybe that's the 'far' in your ideology. I'd prefer to take a balanced view and let others live how they wish."

If people are so feeble that my words on a swinging site stop them from doing anything, maybe they should take some personal responsibility and strengthen themselves.

Meanwhile, the facts - which exist and I've alluded to in my polemic - don't care about your feelings.

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By *nkednkinkyMan over a year ago

Fraserburgh

Global warming isn't a man made thing this planet goes through heating cycle's and cooling. We just so happen to be going through a heating cycle just now.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not denying anything. Everyone should just do their thing ad decide what is best for themselves.

If I had a planet to move to where I was proportionally affected by climate change by the amount I try to make a difference, I would.

Don't you dare... You seem unbelievably narrow minded or simply selfish

Good for you, that you have things to occupy yourself. The things myself and others enjoy need travel and real life social interactions.

Oh I dare.

Just more emotive language without giving a fuck about the other side of the argument.

You only care about the people who think the same way you do. How very liberal of you.

Meanwhile, the paradox of tolerance has severe limits, and "tolerate me contributing to an unsafe society for people not like me" is well past those limits.

Most people are to the right of you, you describe yourself as Far Left.

You're happy admitting that you don't give a fuck someone's mental health because they see the world in a different way to you.

Maybe that's the 'far' in your ideology. I'd prefer to take a balanced view and let others live how they wish.

If people are so feeble that my words on a swinging site stop them from doing anything, maybe they should take some personal responsibility and strengthen themselves.

Meanwhile, the facts - which exist and I've alluded to in my polemic - don't care about your feelings."

You use pronouns... I don't like to stereotype but I see a theme emerging...