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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why would anyone have one ff's..... Its stupidity.. Nice as Pie one minute then something must just trigger em and bang...
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We've had a Staffy or Pitbull type dog,for those that know no better,for 12 years now.
We also had one for 5 years before she got killed.
Both were rescue dogs and we have never had one bit of bother with either.
No fouling the house, no chewing furniture etc, no whining or barking when we go out (we asked the neighbours).
The little old guy we have now was apparently trained as a fighting dog when we took him on.
He's 14 now,nearly blind and deaf and on pain killers from being underfed and over exercised as a pup,resulting in degeneration of his discs and various injuries he'd incured.
They're extremely inteligent sensitive dogs,both of them I have been able to push away from their food bowls etc with no problems at all.
As the saying goes,"Theres no such thing as bad dogs,only bad owners" the same could be said of kids and parents I suppose.
Which leads me to ask what the 4 year old was doing up at midnight?
Also why he was allowed to wander about among breeding dogs?
Most animals of any size are more dangerous when breeding or with their young.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i had a wee staffie who was the most sweet natured wee dog ever compared to the other dogs we had. some dogs get bad names and labelled with "killer breed" etc. safety and common sense with most dogs ie not leavin them alone with kids n so forth. what happened to the child was definately tragic and nothin is certain with life and dogs x  |
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"Why would anyone have one ff's..... Its stupidity.. Nice as Pie one minute then something must just trigger em and bang...
We've had a Staffy or Pitbull type dog,for those that know no better,for 12 years now.
We also had one for 5 years before she got killed.
Both were rescue dogs and we have never had one bit of bother with either.
No fouling the house, no chewing furniture etc, no whining or barking when we go out (we asked the neighbours).
The little old guy we have now was apparently trained as a fighting dog when we took him on.
He's 14 now,nearly blind and deaf and on pain killers from being underfed and over exercised as a pup,resulting in degeneration of his discs and various injuries he'd incured.
They're extremely inteligent sensitive dogs,both of them I have been able to push away from their food bowls etc with no problems at all.
As the saying goes,"Theres no such thing as bad dogs,only bad owners" the same could be said of kids and parents I suppose.
Which leads me to ask what the 4 year old was doing up at midnight?
Also why he was allowed to wander about among breeding dogs?
Most animals of any size are more dangerous when breeding or with their young.
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Well said its normally the owners not the dogs fault, Only innocent 1 in all this is that poor kid
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Compulsory muzzling for ALL dogs, stop this sort of tragedy ever happening again "
I agree... God love em but when out especially, muzzled is safest.. |
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By *ig badMan
over a year ago
Up North :-) |
Some animals like humans have a deviant nature and if allowed can get out of hand. There are specific breed that have been inter bread for generations to create what is classed as a fighting dog. So lets face facts these breeds of dog have been bread for one use only and to discard this is rather singular minded.
Its a mixture of nurture and nature. There are certain people who should not be let near animals that are more susceptible to nurture of a negative type. Maybe as society we should look at our namby pamby state and get tough on individuals who breed such animals in the first place. After all whats wrong with more placid dogs as pets as surely we do not need the more aggressive breeds.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Its the chav yobs who own them just to train as a weapon that are causing all this bother.
The owners should be vetted before selling and a licence needed before you can breed and sell any dog.
The nickname for Staffies is "Nanny Dog" because of their reliability around kids.
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By *ig badMan
over a year ago
Up North :-) |
Interesting statement as as far as history goes they were originally bread for bull bating. In the early part of the twentieth century. Didn’t know we had chav there but I am a little younger than some.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've had a Staffie, and two GSD's amongst other breeds, I'm a total believer in its all in the bringing up of the animal not the breed. If you have a dog that is well trained and most importantly knows its place in the 'pack' then you are unlikely to have major problems.
Having said that ANY dog is capable of a bad mood, I have a 2" scar at the top of my leg from one of the most friendly dogs I'd ever met but I caught its fur in my ring and hurt it and it snapped !!! noones fault least of all the dogs but it does happen.
This is the reason I would never leave my kids when they were little alone with any of my dogs - you just never know..................x |
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By *ig badMan
over a year ago
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Granted all dogs can have a good and nice side however I have l never seen a Springer spaniel used as a guard dog. Or lets say a Labrador wish is a similar size and weight to an Alsatian. Alas genetics have a big part to play in all life be it plant human or dog. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Granted all dogs can have a good and nice side however I have l never seen a Springer spaniel used as a guard dog. Or lets say a Labrador wish is a similar size and weight to an Alsatian. Alas genetics have a big part to play in all life be it plant human or dog."
Totally agree if you are looking for a dog for a specific purpose such as Guard Dog, but as far as being a family pet, if the breeder is a good one, and the puppy is trained well and treated fairly from the start ANY breed can be a 'nice' dog xx |
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By *ig badMan
over a year ago
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Any bread can I agree. Its just certain individual dogs can have a more aggressive nature. This is part due to owners but also certain breeds are more susceptible to aggression. If you look at the testosterone levels in certain breeds you will find that certain fighting dogs have a higher level. Said that good training and obedience will negate this. However ask a professional trainer and they will say the less intelligent dogs are harder to train. This coincides with certain breeds.
Said all that the Jack Russell personally I have found to be more feisty than most. But that’s a terriers nature and it was bread into them.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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we have a staffie , and he's a huge one lol , but we have 100% faith in him that he would never hust anyone , our 8 year old daughter was recently attacked and receeived quite serious facial injuries by a weimaraner , but because this breed of dog is not 'known' as being aggresive , nothing was done about it. its about time the dangerous dogs act included all dogs x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Interesting statement as as far as history goes they were originally bread for bull bating. In the early part of the twentieth century. Didn’t know we had chav there but I am a little younger than some. "
Yes they were used for fighting and bull bating in early years.
They were also popular in orphanages during the war apparently.
Now, sad to say, as well as fighting they're used to bolster the backbone and ego of chav yobs.
Many that end up in rescue centres have been siezed from these idiots.
Basically they're another victim of mans inhumanity to other creatures and sometimes, unfortunately, it comes back to bite them on the arse, literally! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Any bread can I agree. Its just certain individual dogs can have a more aggressive nature. This is part due to owners but also certain breeds are more susceptible to aggression. If you look at the testosterone levels in certain breeds you will find that certain fighting dogs have a higher level. Said that good training and obedience will negate this. However ask a professional trainer and they will say the less intelligent dogs are harder to train. This coincides with certain breeds.
Said all that the Jack Russell personally I have found to be more feisty than most. But that’s a terriers nature and it was bread into them.
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Lets face it, if Jack Russels were the size of Labradors they'd have been banned years ago.
Traces mother has a lot to do with Foresight the organisation for the blind.
She mentioned to a guide dog trainer how intelligent the dogs must be.
"Not at all" he said, and went on to say the Labrador is a very greedy dog and would rather have you think for it,which makes it ideal for training.
A Police officer friend of ours also told us that more folk are bitten by black Labradors during the summer than any other.
Apparantly they tend to get arsey in hot weather but don't have the same sensation factor in the media as "Pitbull" type dogs.
Which is why you hear nothing about it.  |
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By *ig badMan
over a year ago
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Might be good to check percentages of each breed per attack. There are a higher percentage of pedigree Labradors than dubious parentage so called fighting dogs. Also google selective breeding on animals, it might give you insite on what man has done with domestic animals over the last 5000years. |
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By *ebzStarWoman
over a year ago
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This is a topic that REALLY annoys me.
In my profession i have treated many a dog that had been a victim of dog fights from gangs in streets that think they are cool or hard.
It sickens me.
And listening to the YOUNG boys on the radio yesterday really made me want to cry,
Comments like " i love my dog cos he fights to the death INNIT!
HE is my dog, he will do as i say and he looks after me innit!
They make sure i got respect innit!
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Then they go to FREE charity places lie the PDSA or RSPCA for FREE treatment for these poor beasts who are mangled frm these street fights
The sad thing is - the Staffies - are actually really soft hunnies when broguth up right as are the Rotties.
But they are big strong dogs,
In all my years, the 3 worse dogs i have encountered were
1) a black lab, who the owner brought in for put to sleep cos it had attacked some children, left it in a kennel and the little shit wanted to eat my face!!!
2) a COLLIE!!!
Farm dog gone mad.
3) a Weimerana - only 12 months - and totally out of control due to owners - but meant it could not be rehomed
Not ya general breeds, but still all 3 dangerous dogs.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I hate this - i wish the4y brought the dog license back and compulsory Microchipping so ALL dogs could be traqcked,
The sad thing is these gang cultures - they are mix breeding to bring these banned breeds into the uk. I have seen what was supposed to be a Labradore that was SO obviously a PittBull.
Not good
Rant over xxxx
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By (user no longer on site)
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I would never let ANY dog near my 8m/o son for the simple reason that it can't speak English and therefore cannot tell me that it don't like kids or is feeling a bit pissed off. It isn't rare for previously placid dogs to have a rough day and attack and I for one am not prepared to put my son's life at risk when it could be avoided altogether by not exposing him to a potentially dangerous dog. Nature gave these animals fangs for a reason, so one can hardly be surprised if it uses them. |
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By *ebzStarWoman
over a year ago
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The sad thing is - even the RSPCA have only limited rights.
I have seen many a cruelty case where the purputrators have gotten off scott free due to loop holes in the law,
EG - beating and starving a dog, where it came in with all its ribs broken, starved so it was a QUARTER of its weight when it was last with us when it was ill,
All its legs broken,
Urine scolds all over its body.
And they got away with it. |
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By *ebzStarWoman
over a year ago
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"I would never let ANY dog near my 8m/o son for the simple reason that it can't speak English and therefore cannot tell me that it don't like kids or is feeling a bit pissed off. It isn't rare for previously placid dogs to have a rough day and attack and I for one am not prepared to put my son's life at risk when it could be avoided altogether by not exposing him to a potentially dangerous dog. Nature gave these animals fangs for a reason, so one can hardly be surprised if it uses them."
Thank GOD!!!!
If we dont put it in the hands of the beasts - then these things wont happen,
At the end of the day - the dogs really DONT know better. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It always makes us laugh when we read the ill informed ramblings of the press......
'Pitbull type dog'
Wtf is a Pitbull type dog ? Either it's a Pitbull or it isn't
We have an American Bulldog as well as a German Shepherd. So is our Bully a 'pitbull type' ?
To the ill informed morons who love to stir up trouble for this and other breeds of dog YES ! To people with a little bit more knowledge - NO ! Ours is am American Bulldog, not a 'Pitbull Type' dog, but he gets tarred with the same stick.
I wouldn't mind so much if he was vicious, but he's a soft as shite !
But while we are on about vicious dogs - just take your snappy little terrier dogs - your Jack Russels and similar breeds - they can inflict damage on a child just the same as a bigger dog, and in fact only 2 weeks ago a child was killed by a Jack Russell - How many of you saw that splashed all over the press ? It received little or no publicity.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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My Comments are based more on the fact the dog was on the Banned List...
As a result..... its now a criminal matter too and all within one family... Tragedy! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think there is a difference between the dogs kept by responsible owners and those dogs that are bred, trained and live to fight and nothing more. These dogs are kept by ruthless people, to take part in a very cruel, vicious but lucrative sport ... these dogs can earn their owner thousands at illegal fights. It seems the dog from Liverpool was one that was being bred for fighting, more than likely a pitbull, classed as dangerous and a tragedy waiting to happen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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At the risk of repeating myself if it was compulsory to muzzle ALL dogs whilst out in public or when in the home with children/adults around this type of incident would never happen again |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"At the risk of repeating myself if it was compulsory to muzzle ALL dogs whilst out in public or when in the home with children/adults around this type of incident would never happen again "
What about the Hoodies though...  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At the risk of repeating myself if it was compulsory to muzzle ALL dogs whilst out in public or when in the home with children/adults around this type of incident would never happen again
What about the Hoodies though... "
Ye your right ... they should be muzzled too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At the risk of repeating myself if it was compulsory to muzzle ALL dogs whilst out in public or when in the home with children/adults around this type of incident would never happen again
What about the Hoodies though...
Ye your right ... they should be muzzled too "
No arguements from me on that score  |
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By *umourCouple
over a year ago
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No matter how many posts are put on here about how lovable some folks THINK their dogs are, they are animals who are not capable of knowing right from wrong! Therefore NO child should ever be left alone with ANY dog at ANY time.
As for "Pitbull types" I can't see what one poster is so incensed about! A "Pitbull type" is a dog of a similar stature to a pitbull that might reasonably be mistaken for a pitbull by someone who doesn't know the finer points on breeds of dogs! Nothing wrong with that phrase, it is that type of dog, not that dog!
As far as I am concerned, anyone who has a child and allows that child to mix freely with the dog whilst unsupervised should face the full force of the law if the child gets bitten! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I suspect that I was the poster referred to in the post above who has been described as 'incensed'
Well for the record, I'm not incensed, I just think it's a shame that because of a minority, and lets be fair lots of people have this 'type' of dog and it is the minority that do this type of damage, all dogs of similar breed or 'type' get tarred with the same stick.
I do however wholehreartedly agree with the last paragraph of the above post - At no time should ANY dog be left alone with a child, no matter how good natured the dog happens to be, because lets look at it from both sides of the fence - some kids can be little bastards as well and have been known to poke, prod, push and pull a dog to the point where it bites them - it's the dogs only defence mechanism - it cannot turn around and tell the kid to fuck off.
When our Grandkids are at our house, as they were this weekend, they were never allowed into the kitchen with the dogs unless there was an adult present - our dogs are very placid but the Bulldog is over 7stone in weight, so the sheer mass of the dog would at the very least push a child onto the ground if he happened to jump up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And what about hoodies... with pitbulls? "
I'd have one of those wardens mentioned earlier and have the hoodie dragged away for positive identification and if identified as a true hoodie, have hime/her destroyed by lethal injection  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"And what about hoodies... with pitbulls?
I'd have one of those wardens mentioned earlier and have the hoodie dragged away for positive identification and if identified as a true hoodie, have hime/her destroyed by lethal injection "
I's smother the hoodie with pedigree chum... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As Redhotcouple said earlier,some kids are right little bastards and most dogs they come into contact with must have the patience of saints.
They certainly have more patience than me, how do we know dogs don't have headaches etc and be at the end of their tether.
Some of the antics we've seen brats get up to with dogs deserve them getting their arses chewed on.
If only the law was as strict with humans, who know better, as they are with dogs, who don't!
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Only living a few miles from what happened to that poor boy, still no mention from parents (wheres the father?) I'd say kill the dog then kill the owner, the nobs that walk round with these dogs just show that they cant fight them selves and need one of these to do it for them, oh, and if anyone finds themselves in a situation with any dog, try and open there front legs open as wide as possible, it kills them  |
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" the Bulldog is over 7stone in weight, so the sheer mass of the dog would at the very least push a child onto the ground if he happened to jump up."
Ehh, CAN a bulldog jump up? Mind you, could give a SERIOUS slobbering.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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all the dogs ive had has been
rottweillers an they are real
lovely dogs its not the dogs u
need 2 watch its the owner's an how
they bring the dogs up cause all
my rotties were very loving |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Worst dogs I've dealt with have been a killer Chihuahua who was seriously into throat massage, a yellow lab who went berserk in an owner's car and had to be towed in to be shot through the window and a Labxcollie who tried to rip my face off. All ended up dead -eventually.
But Pitbulls ARE different. They are selectively bred for aggression and lack of inhibition to attack. The difference with them is their huge muscle mass over the head- when they grip they do not let go under any circumstances. Any around at the moment are likely to be hyper aggressive as the breed should have died out when the DDA came into force and any left will have been retained by those wishing to use them for fighting.
For the record, the Police for some reason, have decided the DDA is a law not worth supporting. Not just in Liverpool, but countrywide. They should be held as much responsible as anyine lse |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Only living a few miles from what happened to that poor boy, still no mention from parents (wheres the father?) I'd say kill the dog then kill the owner, the nobs that walk round with these dogs just show that they cant fight them selves and need one of these to do it for them, oh, and if anyone finds themselves in a situation with any dog, try and open there front legs open as wide as possible, it kills them "
actually Mally I know the father. He and the mother are estranged. John Paul is his only son. He and his partner had gone out that night to try and reconcile and had left the boy with his maternal grandmother. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"all the dogs ive had has been
rottweillers an they are real
lovely dogs its not the dogs u
need 2 watch its the owner's an how
they bring the dogs up cause all
my rotties were very loving "
Arggh , I need to stop forgetting to add my message!
Agree, Stunna, it IS almost entirely up to the owners how their dogs turn out. There are rogue ones in every breed/cross but very few. But it scares me that there is no way of ensuring that large guarding/hunting/attack breeds particularly, can be bought by ANYONE. Anyone with a wad of cash can buy anything. But SO many people have NO animal savvy at all. We should have to prove we know what we're doing first, before getting ANY dog.
I've seen people absolutely loaded with money, buying a large mastiff, failing to recognise the behavioural needs of the dog and take command, letting it play bite everyone it met and the dog ripped the child's arm off. Now, who is really to blame there? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Only living a few miles from what happened to that poor boy, still no mention from parents (wheres the father?) I'd say kill the dog then kill the owner, the nobs that walk round with these dogs just show that they cant fight them selves and need one of these to do it for them, oh, and if anyone finds themselves in a situation with any dog, try and open there front legs open as wide as possible, it kills them
actually Mally I know the father. He and the mother are estranged. John Paul is his only son. He and his partner had gone out that night to try and reconcile and had left the boy with his maternal grandmother."
thats 1 strike to me |
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"Only living a few miles from what happened to that poor boy, still no mention from parents (wheres the father?) I'd say kill the dog then kill the owner, the nobs that walk round with these dogs just show that they cant fight them selves and need one of these to do it for them, oh, and if anyone finds themselves in a situation with any dog, try and open there front legs open as wide as possible, it kills them
actually Mally I know the father. He and the mother are estranged. John Paul is his only son. He and his partner had gone out that night to try and reconcile and had left the boy with his maternal grandmother.
thats 1 strike to me "
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By (user no longer on site)
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" the Bulldog is over 7stone in weight, so the sheer mass of the dog would at the very least push a child onto the ground if he happened to jump up.
Ehh, CAN a bulldog jump up? Mind you, could give a SERIOUS slobbering.
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Loll oh aye he can jump up all right - paws on my shoulders, big fat face staring at me and a giant size tongue all over my face in one fell swoop...
Slobber lol ffs you've seen nothing like it - it's like a giant car wash |
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By *ebzStarWoman
over a year ago
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"What you're posting Debs is very disturbing
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Darling -i amvery sorry what i am posting is distubing - but unforunately its true hun.
RSPCA have limited forces- and bastards get away with - if i am allowed to say - bloody murder
My heart has been broken many a tim e- and i dont even work with the RSPCA - nor never could i - i would wanna stab people xxxxx xxxxx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Well... Ole Grandpa in the case has now been charged with Manslaughter.
Least of his worries... my own guilt would kill me..
Feeling for the family... so sad! |
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"Well... Ole Grandpa in the case has now been charged with Manslaughter.
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Press reports are that it's the boy's uncle who has been charged.
I suppose (in some parts of the country) is possible to be both grandfather AND uncle........... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Well... Ole Grandpa in the case has now been charged with Manslaughter.
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Press reports are that it's the boy's uncle who has been charged.
I suppose (in some parts of the country) is possible to be both grandfather AND uncle........... "
Your probably right... I just caught a few words on the radio on the way home... whoever though, bloody tragic eh. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I seem to remember a similar case to this when the child was left with the grandparent.
In that instance there was evidence of drug dealing if I remember right.
It seems that when these sort of attacks happen,the families involved seem to be a bit dodgy to say the least.
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" the Bulldog is over 7stone in weight, so the sheer mass of the dog would at the very least push a child onto the ground if he happened to jump up.
Ehh, CAN a bulldog jump up? Mind you, could give a SERIOUS slobbering.
Loll oh aye he can jump up all right - paws on my shoulders, big fat face staring at me and a giant size tongue all over my face in one fell swoop...
Slobber lol ffs you've seen nothing like it - it's like a giant car wash"
There are people on here who are going to be turned on by your dog now.. |
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" the Bulldog is over 7stone in weight, so the sheer mass of the dog would at the very least push a child onto the ground if he happened to jump up.
Ehh, CAN a bulldog jump up? Mind you, could give a SERIOUS slobbering.
Loll oh aye he can jump up all right - paws on my shoulders, big fat face staring at me and a giant size tongue all over my face in one fell swoop...
Slobber lol ffs you've seen nothing like it - it's like a giant car wash
There are people on here who are going to be turned on by your dog now.. "
He's got his own facebook page, packed with photos and videos and 60 odd friends from all over the world |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well well well ! Now someone's been mauled to death by an Alsation !
That's both of our dogs in deep shit
Theres a thread about euthanasia on here somewhere... "
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"Well well well ! Now someone's been mauled to death by an Alsation !
That's both of our dogs in deep shit
Theres a thread about euthanasia on here somewhere...
Yeah I might just look further into the subject - looks like I'll not dare venture out of the door soon"
If you do, make sure you do it doggy style...you'll be fine... |
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"I seem to remember a similar case to this when the child was left with the grandparent.
In that instance there was evidence of drug dealing if I remember right.
It seems that when these sort of attacks happen,the families involved seem to be a bit dodgy to say the least.
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well speaking from personally knowing the childs father i can quite catorgorically say your wrong. |
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Now here are some seriously dangerous dogs ..... Our dogs
Watch and enjoy
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"Now here are some seriously dangerous dogs ..... Our dogs
Watch and enjoy
http://lps.myfacelol.com/v101/default.aspx?m=movies/holiday/rap.swf&b=http://www.myfacelol.com/assets/&df1=userimg/40/5d69612c-5d75-42d7-87e8-d5acaa13215b-979993.png&df2=userimg/40/5d69612c-5d75-42d7-87e8-d5acaa13215b-979278.png&df3=userimg/40/5d69612c-5d75-42d7-87e8-d5acaa13215b-979278.png"
hahhahaha love it!!! |
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"Now here are some seriously dangerous dogs ..... Our dogs
Watch and enjoy
http://lps.myfacelol.com/v101/default.aspx?m=movies/holiday/rap.swf&b=http://www.myfacelol.com/assets/&df1=userimg/40/5d69612c-5d75-42d7-87e8-d5acaa13215b-979993.png&df2=userimg/40/5d69612c-5d75-42d7-87e8-d5acaa13215b-979278.png&df3=userimg/40/5d69612c-5d75-42d7-87e8-d5acaa13215b-979278.png
hahhahaha love it!!!"
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"I seem to remember a similar case to this when the child was left with the grandparent.
In that instance there was evidence of drug dealing if I remember right.
It seems that when these sort of attacks happen,the families involved seem to be a bit dodgy to say the least.
XXXX
well speaking from personally knowing the childs father i can quite catorgorically say your wrong."
Well someone in the family was breeding banned dogs surely. |
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By *ebzStarWoman
over a year ago
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Wandsworth council in London are introducing compulsory microchipping fos all dogs.
And if they dont abide by this then the tennents get evicted.
Not quite sure how that will work like, but good on them for trying something.
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As for dangerous dogs - anyone had to tackle a shiity mooded Yorkshire Terrier or a Jack Russel???
ooooooooh that reminds me of a phone call i had one night off the Police saying they were bringing and injured dog in, and it had taken 5 police officers to get the dog in the van.
Well i never thought to ask what breed it was - assumed it was a big beast - so was VERY suprised when they carried in a box!!!!
LOL
Took two muzzles to get it back out the box mind, lol
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By *ebzStarWoman
over a year ago
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"Wandsworth council in London are introducing compulsory microchipping fos all dogs
Does that mean they'll get caught in the speed camera's ?.... "
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IF you can drive fast enough anywhere is Wansworth to trip a speed camera you would be lucky!!!! |
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"Wandsworth council in London are introducing compulsory microchipping fos all dogs
Does that mean they'll get caught in the speed camera's ?....
lol
IF you can drive fast enough anywhere is Wansworth to trip a speed camera you would be lucky!!!!"
I didnt realise wandsworth dogs drove cars...no wonder theyre chipping the little fickers... |
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"Plenty of dogs in Wandworth - and yeah some can drive cars (well they get them licences out of a RiceCrispy packet) and yes ALL of em should be chipped AND neutered!!!!
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Well... if were going down this route... tag the hound too!! Then... we can blend this and the PMT thread together.. 
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walking my dogs today, we were met the biggest Rottweiler I have ever seen, was fecking huge...
my 2 wee pups nearly landed in my pocket....
it was the friendliest dog, the most well trained and a joy for the pups to play with...
respect to the owner for great training me says..
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livin in an area where pit bulls staffies etc are the dogs for the chavvie or drug dealer i have to say some of these dogs scare me especially when not muzzled!!
i have a yorkie and its the moodiest yappiest furball ever but a muzzle when she out on the lead gives me peace of mind x |
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Disagree, Jim, sorry. Any dog that 'flips' has shown signs of a problem. It's us humans that haven't recognised what they're telling us that's the difficulty. |
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"Disagree, Jim, sorry. Any dog that 'flips' has shown signs of a problem. It's us humans that haven't recognised what they're telling us that's the difficulty."
It can take something as simple as a child inadvertantly poking a dog in the eye with a stick. Wholly unpredictable and sometimes fatal for the wean.
Wasn't there mention (above) about accidentally catching an animal's fur provoking an attack?
I witnessed a farm cat go completely batshit crazy attacking everyone and anything within range. Cause? Undiagnosed brain tumour just got toooooooooo big. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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They only had the dog for few days from what I read
It was a fully grown american bulldog. I have a american bulldog pitbull mix and it's a powerful dog,shouldn't have been near a child until they knew his temperament |
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"3 year old dead,i suppose it wasnt the dogs fault,naaaa it cant be as all dogs are lovely lets blame the owner then"
No such thing as a dangerous dog.
Try telling that to the families of those killed this week. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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It's not the dogs fault. Mostly these dogs do be working breeds that have a long history of working for people and still do
They don't ask to be bought and put into an unsuitable environment or in hands of fools |
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"3 year old dead,i suppose it wasnt the dogs fault,naaaa it cant be as all dogs are lovely lets blame the owner then
No such thing as a dangerous dog.
Try telling that to the families of those killed this week. "
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"Why would anyone have one ff's..... Its stupidity.. Nice as Pie one minute then something must just trigger em and bang...
We've had a Staffy or Pitbull type dog,for those that know no better,for 12 years now.
We also had one for 5 years before she got killed.
Both were rescue dogs and we have never had one bit of bother with either.
No fouling the house, no chewing furniture etc, no whining or barking when we go out (we asked the neighbours).
The little old guy we have now was apparently trained as a fighting dog when we took him on.
He's 14 now,nearly blind and deaf and on pain killers from being underfed and over exercised as a pup,resulting in degeneration of his discs and various injuries he'd incured.
They're extremely inteligent sensitive dogs,both of them I have been able to push away from their food bowls etc with no problems at all.
As the saying goes,"Theres no such thing as bad dogs,only bad owners" the same could be said of kids and parents I suppose.
Which leads me to ask what the 4 year old was doing up at midnight?
Also why he was allowed to wander about among breeding dogs?
Most animals of any size are more dangerous when breeding or with their young.
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Absolutely agree, some are harder work to make safe than others but if you get them young even pitbulls can be perfectly safe and loving family pets. They aren't to my tastes but it's nothing to do with their "dangerous" tag. I prefer a retriever. Or a Weimaraner, or possibly a dauschund :D |
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until the law is changed and much more stringent legislation is brought in which covers a lot more area's than just 'one type of breed is bad' then sadly these attacks will continue..
most responsible dog owners will happily go along with what is needed but they are not the issue.. |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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As a breed standard pitbulls are people friendly. Too people friendly to be guard dog. Because of their horrible history at fighting they had to be to be able to be handled when fighting
They are a specialist dog being so athletic and dog aggressive but have a good healthy outlet now with k9 sports
They need a fenced in kennels with mesh on top of kennel and underfloor. All good pit owners know this |
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"until the law is changed and much more stringent legislation is brought in which covers a lot more area's than just 'one type of breed is bad' then sadly these attacks will continue..
most responsible dog owners will happily go along with what is needed but they are not the issue.."
Most responsible dog owners wouldn't leave a dog that can maul a child alone.. |
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"until the law is changed and much more stringent legislation is brought in which covers a lot more area's than just 'one type of breed is bad' then sadly these attacks will continue..
most responsible dog owners will happily go along with what is needed but they are not the issue..
Most responsible dog owners wouldn't leave a dog that can maul a child alone.."
correct..
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"until the law is changed and much more stringent legislation is brought in which covers a lot more area's than just 'one type of breed is bad' then sadly these attacks will continue..
most responsible dog owners will happily go along with what is needed but they are not the issue..
Most responsible dog owners wouldn't leave a dog that can maul a child alone.."
my sister has a staffie.....the softest bloody dog i have ever known. she pulls on the lead like a typical staffie whenever we walk her but show her that my niece is walking her and she walks so slowly, looking back all the time to make sure she is doing it right.
That being said and as amazing a dog as she is there is no way on earth we would leave the kids alone with her as you never know what might trigger something. pain, illness, tiredness, frustration etc can all turn the most perfect of dogs into a viscious animal in seconds. |
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I remember my grandad chucking me and my bruv in the back of his mk2 escort 2dr so there was quick escape with....now wait for it....
A 8 stone Rottweiler lol.. nowadays you'd have child line ..the plod..even a team of stunt men going Nooooooooo don't do it... |
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"until the law is changed and much more stringent legislation is brought in which covers a lot more area's than just 'one type of breed is bad' then sadly these attacks will continue..
most responsible dog owners will happily go along with what is needed but they are not the issue..
Most responsible dog owners wouldn't leave a dog that can maul a child alone.."
The thing is nobody ever thinks their dog would do such a thing |
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"3 year old dead,i suppose it wasnt the dogs fault,naaaa it cant be as all dogs are lovely lets blame the owner then"
To be fair the owner is to blame
No matter what type of dog it is, or what it did, dogs should not be in a position to be roaming round able attacking people
If they are you failed your duty as an owner |
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"3 year old dead,i suppose it wasnt the dogs fault,naaaa it cant be as all dogs are lovely lets blame the owner then
To be fair the owner is to blame
No matter what type of dog it is, or what it did, dogs should not be in a position to be roaming round able attacking people
If they are you failed your duty as an owner "
Agree 
Different breeds have different characteristics. Pitbulls and staffies have terrier traits and will bite and hold then shake to "kill" as per their terrier heritage. That is why they can do more damage than many other breeds.
In 99.9% of cases of death or serious injury, the children were not brought up in the same house as the dog and the dogs owner wasn't present.
Its not going to be a simple problem to solve by legislation, that will only punish after the event in most cases.
Until people understand and respect dogs and teach their children to do the same nothing will change.
A friend of mine is a vet nurse. A Staffie was brought in to be put to sleep as it had bitten the owners child. It was a rescue dog. After euthanasia my friend noticed that the dogs ear didn't sit right. He looked down the ear canal and found a crayon lodged there...
So was it the dogs fault, the child's or the parents?
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By *artytwoCouple
over a year ago
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Whatever anyone says, however many people/children/other animals are hurt by dogs it won't make any difference. The dog loving lobbies of the civilised world will demand their inalienable rights and get them. Many people in this country are obsessed with dogs and theirs are always the softies who would never harm anyone. |
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"3 year old dead,i suppose it wasnt the dogs fault,naaaa it cant be as all dogs are lovely lets blame the owner then
To be fair the owner is to blame
No matter what type of dog it is, or what it did, dogs should not be in a position to be roaming round able attacking people
If they are you failed your duty as an owner "
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"3 year old dead,i suppose it wasnt the dogs fault,naaaa it cant be as all dogs are lovely lets blame the owner then
To be fair the owner is to blame
No matter what type of dog it is, or what it did, dogs should not be in a position to be roaming round able attacking people
If they are you failed your duty as an owner
Agree
Different breeds have different characteristics. Pitbulls and staffies have terrier traits and will bite and hold then shake to "kill" as per their terrier heritage. That is why they can do more damage than many other breeds.
In 99.9% of cases of death or serious injury, the children were not brought up in the same house as the dog and the dogs owner wasn't present.
Its not going to be a simple problem to solve by legislation, that will only punish after the event in most cases.
Until people understand and respect dogs and teach their children to do the same nothing will change.
A friend of mine is a vet nurse. A Staffie was brought in to be put to sleep as it had bitten the owners child. It was a rescue dog. After euthanasia my friend noticed that the dogs ear didn't sit right. He looked down the ear canal and found a crayon lodged there...
So was it the dogs fault, the child's or the parents?
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Did your friend tell the parents about the crayon? |
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Nobody tells us exactly wtf a pit bull type is funny thing is a copper said... there is no such breed as a pitbull is a type. And staffys and most bullies are pit bull types if it looks like a duck it is grrrr hahaha wtf that even mean. We have a staffy bitch Shes more like the old tyme staffs from years ago And plenty say is that a pitbull when out and a about. Shes a softy she is |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"Nobody tells us exactly wtf a pit bull type is funny thing is a copper said... there is no such breed as a pitbull is a type. And staffys and most bullies are pit bull types if it looks like a duck it is grrrr hahaha wtf that even mean. We have a staffy bitch Shes more like the old tyme staffs from years ago And plenty say is that a pitbull when out and a about. Shes a softy she is "
Irish staffies I think they are called in uk. Pitbulls in rest of world
Whatever helps beat the breed specific ban is good by me |
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