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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Has Anyone ever seen a ghost or maybe have one in their house ?

Strange post I know lol x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

you mean has anyone evr had the willies up them?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No. They don't exist

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"you mean has anyone evr had the willies up them?"
lol! love it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"you mean has anyone evr had the willies up them?"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. They don't exist"

That's why they're ghosts.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Yeah, I know I have and iv got a ghost in my house haha x

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By *am123Man  over a year ago

essex chelmsford


"No. They don't exist"
plenty of people have seen ghosts or think they have x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. They don't exist"

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"No. They don't exist"

Of course they do lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

People just not getting into the SPIRIT of this at all

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes we have one in our house!

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By *londeCazWoman  over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

Our old family home has a poltergeist...never any nasty things happened but just things would get moved and you could hear her upstairs at certain times of the day - we called her Ethel because the movements started just after we'd had some old original casement windows taken out, one of which had that name scratched in the wood. Had some spiritualists visit about 20 years ago and they said it was the spirit of a young woman who died in service in the house in the early 1900s

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Who you gonna call......

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Our old family home has a poltergeist...never any nasty things happened but just things would get moved and you could hear her upstairs at certain times of the day - we called her Ethel because the movements started just after we'd had some old original casement windows taken out, one of which had that name scratched in the wood. Had some spiritualists visit about 20 years ago and they said it was the spirit of a young woman who died in service in the house in the early 1900s"

We have one of these too, we have named our john, we saw him once and he was dressed in old clothing. A black long coat and a top hat x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Has Anyone ever seen a ghost or maybe have one in their house ?

Strange post I know lol x"

I believe one lives in the house belonging to R. Dean Taylor, or so he sez !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I aint afraid of no goats

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I aint afraid of no goats "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. They don't exist

plenty of people have seen ghosts or think they have x"

think they have being the key word here

I do believe lots of people think they have seen ghosts but everything can be explained if you look into it, if you want to believe it was a ghost you will

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes.. my mums house used to have two ghosts in it.. one was an old lady that kinda just appeared every now and then... more felt her than saw her..

Well unless you tried to serious change things around the house.. when we knocked through the living room and dining room.. ohhhh she got a bit annoyed..

the other was a little girl called rita... loads of people saw her.. mostly you could hear her..

Scarily my little sister would often be heard playing in her room with rita.. We found out after a newspaper reported the house that she had died of small pox... Her brother came to the house eventually and we never heard her again.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. They don't exist

plenty of people have seen ghosts or think they have x

think they have being the key word here

I do believe lots of people think they have seen ghosts but everything can be explained if you look into it, if you want to believe it was a ghost you will"

You mean they are like "HONEST" politicians, people claim to have seen one but there is no evidence to prove it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ive seen two..........both nuns too

I just thought it was a bad habit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The logical part of me says that don;t and can;t exist but I've had a couple of experiences that make me less than certain that that's the cae.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead

If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead

If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as

"

Oxygen springs to mind.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead

If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as

"

Gravity ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think there is def something to these unexplained occurances people speak of, whether it is technically the spirit of a dead person I wouldn't be so certain.. But def something, maybe we can't comprehend or have knowledge of yet.

Let's face it not that long ago we thought the world was flat until we proved otherwise.. Everyday we learn new things. I don't think we have learnt anything that would explain so called ghosts

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I once saw Gloria Gaynor's ghost

At first I was afraid, I was petrified.

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By *ll-Knight-longMan  over a year ago

Derby/Notts(Long Eaton)

I am the biggest sceptic out and believe in science ...however have seen both explainable phenomenon and some yet to be explained.

Tamworth Castle I have heard footsteps coming down the grand staircase I was standing at......explanation He temperature change buckles one tread them like a domino effect the stair treads one by one buckle in turn down to the bottom ...in the morning they warm and it does the reverse....... But was on "most Haunted" filming when some things didn't get filmed that were weird yet others I am sure we're just "theatrical interpretation " should we say.

Scariest was my son and wife both seeing a little girl playing at the end of his bed that he had seen often but didn't say .....shivvvveeerrrrsssss

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By *ll-Knight-longMan  over a year ago

Derby/Notts(Long Eaton)


"I once saw Gloria Gaynor's ghost

At first I was afraid, I was petrified."

PMSL

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Our house is 350 years old and has lots of creaks and unexplained noises. Our neighbour claims there is a young girl who sits on our stairs crying.

We've never seen her - but then we have two stinky young boys so maybe that's what keeps her away.

Supposedly there's also a ghost cat! Weirdly about a week after she told us this a cat did turn up (we're in the middle of nowhere). It's stayed with us ever since but it seems pretty real. There are a fair few more ghostly mice now though.

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By *urvymummyCouple  over a year ago

Peterborough


"Who you gonna call......GHOST BUSTERS"

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge

No such thing as ghosts.

No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Iv been told that one of my ghosts is my grandad don't know who the other ghost is, we have felt and seen our unknown ghost quite a few time especially tonight, like I previously said we have named him john lol I love ghosts and the unexplained things x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No such thing as ghosts.

No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon."

but they haven't been able to prove they are not there either..

I believe because I know I have seen some...

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)  over a year ago

birmingham

Anyone who thinks they have one, don't be inviting us over

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Has Anyone ever seen a ghost or maybe have one in their house ?

Strange post I know lol x

I believe one lives in the house belonging to R. Dean Taylor, or so he sez ! "

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By *pecifically1Woman  over a year ago

Hull

several experiences....

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman  over a year ago

little house on the praire

I dont disbelieve, ive had some strange things happen and im also convinced i saw a ghost however it was upon waking so could have been part of a dream. But i lived in renovated flats that where part of an old war hospital and an old lady died in my house before i lived here. Some unusual things happened but after a couple of years they stopped.

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By *ub bbwWoman  over a year ago

oldbury

My old house had some crazy stuff going on that I can only put down to ghosts. I had a chair tip back on its back legs then fall and there would be doodles on the wall in crayon now most of you will know I don't have a child so nothing to do with that. I had stuff fall down from shelves and had the feeling of my hair being pulled lots of times. We think it was a child spirit there was also a male that hovered on my stairs. I got used to them but the new owners of my old house have had problems with alarms and stuff falling over and boxes being opened when no one has done it. So yes I've experienced something that could be a ghost. I know the spirit wasn't my child as I would have experienced something before moving to that house.

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"No such thing as ghosts.

No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon.

but they haven't been able to prove they are not there either..

I believe because I know I have seen some... "

Many cases proclaimed by pseudo scientists which have been properly and scientifically investigated have been found to have real and rational explanations.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No such thing as ghosts.

No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon.

but they haven't been able to prove they are not there either..

I believe because I know I have seen some...

Many cases proclaimed by pseudo scientists which have been properly and scientifically investigated have been found to have real and rational explanations.

"

But not all...

It was only a few years ago that there was a tribe pictured in a rainforest that had never been seen before.. What else is out there we haven't discovered?

What 40 years ago noone knew what dna was

Etc

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By *ll-Knight-longMan  over a year ago

Derby/Notts(Long Eaton)

I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I once saw Gloria Gaynor's ghost

At first I was afraid, I was petrified."

Chill ! "Don't fear the reaper", well that's blue oyster cult's theory

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips "

That's an interesting theory

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyone who thinks they have one, don't be inviting us over "

lol was wondering how many people would block us because of the house. We haven't seen any, yet...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips "

that would explain people walking thru walls where there may have previously been a door

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips "

I've come across this theory and it does seem logical.

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"No such thing as ghosts.

No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon.

but they haven't been able to prove they are not there either..

I believe because I know I have seen some...

Many cases proclaimed by pseudo scientists which have been properly and scientifically investigated have been found to have real and rational explanations.

But not all...

It was only a few years ago that there was a tribe pictured in a rainforest that had never been seen before.. What else is out there we haven't discovered?

What 40 years ago noone knew what dna was

Etc"

The point was that many cases have been proven to be false. NONE have been proven to be real. And 'ghosts' are hardly lost and undiscovered.

In spite of all our technological brilliance not a single case has been found to have one single iota of validity on close investigation. Not one.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead

If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as

Gravity ? "

you touch that tho....when you hit the floor

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Haha!! I find this thread funny. I grew up in a house that was built around 1500 and it was haunted!

A nasty boy on the stairs, a red coat by the fire, the guy who lived there before we did I used to chat to.

To me it's normal, why when you die should your memory or imprint be removed from the world.

Ps: I can fly too

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By *ll-Knight-longMan  over a year ago

Derby/Notts(Long Eaton)


"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips

that would explain people walking thru walls where there may have previously been a door"

At the Battle of Bosworth visitor centre and the ACTUAL battlefield near stoke golding have witnessed some strange things over many times living on site during teaching sessions and the local farmers dog was howling really heart rendering on these occasions as if he could sense something. Seen mist suddenly move sideways where there was no wind and seen figures of people when no one was in the area as it was fenced off but never anything solid hence could be just a memory recorded into the environment which some people can tune into more readily? Who knows?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips "

Stone tape theory

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By *ll-Knight-longMan  over a year ago

Derby/Notts(Long Eaton)


"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips

Stone tape theory "

Maybe it was recorded on a 12" (millstone)Disc

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You cannot prove something doesn't exist, only that it does.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We have our own ghost her name is 's' and she's 17, she is wel documented in local history books as is the story of how she came to her demise. We have alot of things happen, pictures hung on walls turned around, lamps knocked over at Xmas the tree was pushed and the baubles placed in a perfect semi circle arpund the tree. She doesn't seem to like change so if we move things she does the same. Just somthing we have got used to now i guess, only once last year did i get hurt when she kept knocking a standard lamp over and it hit me on the head, she clearly was trying to knock sence into me lol.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My old family home had at least two. One in the kitchen who used to tug on your clothes while you were cooking. She was sat on a chair next to where the range would have been. There was also a maid on the top floor and something in the garden.

My sister and I were followed around Beaumaris by soldiers. We could hear their footsteps and weapons behind us.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"My old family home had at least two. One in the kitchen who used to tug on your clothes while you were cooking. She was sat on a chair next to where the range would have been. There was also a maid on the top floor and something in the garden.

My sister and I were followed around Beaumaris by soldiers. We could hear their footsteps and weapons behind us."

wow!! one of my ghosts have followed me, we had alot of things happened while we have been in this new house, from seeing them to being hit lol. like last night S was sitting on sofa watching tv while K was on pc the other side of the room and S got hit on the back of her head K heard it, S felt a hard hit on the back of her head and then during the night S felt someone lying the other side of her in bed (not K) as he was the other side, then S felt this person/thing get up and go but also smelt burning paper so she got up looking for it but there was no fire, and would only smell it in the one place no-where else and K couldnt smell it at all.. but now the smell has gone! S thinks it was her grandad who came to visit and sit/lie down next to her as she was very close to her grandad when he was alive and also been told by a medium her grandad comes to visit S and makes sure shes safe :D x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is a ticket from the Science Police:

Please think,fact check and/or talk to an expert before posting again

thank you

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"This is a ticket from the Science Police:

Please think,fact check and/or talk to an expert before posting again

thank you "

??? i have spoken with many mediums and priests/vicars

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By *ig D and little HCouple  over a year ago

nottingham

Does watching rent a ghost count

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Does watching rent a ghost count "

haha x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I believe.

People that say science proves that ghosts/ aliens etc don't exist make me laugh.

Not that long ago science said the world was flat! They don't know everything yet. They might exist, they might not.........

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"I believe.

People that say science proves that ghosts/ aliens etc don't exist make me laugh.

Not that long ago science said the world was flat! They don't know everything yet. They might exist, they might not........."

No that's wrong. It's been known and understood for millennia that the world was NOT flat actually. That's a common myth. The Romans and Greeks certainly understood it was spherical. It was understood that it was in the Mediaeval period.

No scientists don't know everything but certainly many haunting cases have been definitively proven to have a rational explanation and that was not that ghosts were responsible.

No paranormal 'scientist' has ever come up with irrefutable proof of the existence of ghosts. Just because something is, currently, unexplainable does not constitute the actual existence of spirits.

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"You cannot prove something doesn't exist, only that it does."

So, by that logic the existence of the Tooth Fairy is possible.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I saw my aunt in my grandads house as a kid,me and my sister....and it scared the crap out of us as we knew she had been killed the year before

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This is a ticket from the Science Police:

Please think,fact check and/or talk to an expert before posting again

thank you

??? i have spoken with many mediums and priests/vicars "

and they don't have an agenda.one sees it as a business ones whole life is based on the Holy Ghost. That doesn't make them experts.A Priests whole belief is based on something that is unprovable.

Until a scientific evidence,peer reviewed and accepted id published I'll tend to not believe in them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You cannot prove something doesn't exist, only that it does.

So, by that logic the existence of the Tooth Fairy is possible."

thats the whole point. you can claim anything without evidence. its usually followed by fingers in ears and la la la not listening. tooth fairy,ghosts,moon walking unicorns,god. a belief doesn't make it so. irrefutable evidence will

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By *xpresMan  over a year ago

Elland

No such thing once your dead your worm food

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

After life yes .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I aint afraid of no goats "

You're kidding.....

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I aint afraid of no goats

You're kidding..... "

Only when he's horny *Steve said gruffly*

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Strange how no one has any pictures of these ghosts.

When you consider how many people have died you would think they would be every where.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You cannot prove something doesn't exist, only that it does."

Hahaha

I can't prove there isn't a lion in my garden.

Although,

I and lots of others have never seen one,there are no lion shaped foot prints,or no lion shit.

But a person around the corner has never seen inside my garden says there is because they heard one.

It was my dog growling.

Open your eyes investigate and think about occams razor.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Okay, let's expand this subject a little further. Do animals have a sixth sense? I ask this because it's something that I think is true.

I was a police dog handler in the RAF. At RAF Waddington in Lincolnshire we used to patrol a bmomb dump. The bombs were stored on trolleys ready to be taken to the aircraft for arming. The trolleys were stored in Dutch barn type strucures. One night I was patrolling through there with the dog, when he stopped, turned to his left and stared into one of the Dutch barns. He was a long haired German Shepherd and while he was stood staring into the barn, he gave a surreal sounding howl and his fur all stood out on end, and he was stood rigid with a fixed stare. I pulled him away, walked a short distance away and went back to the same spot and let him off the lead. He 'cast' about all around the Dutch barn but would not go into it, even when I put him back on his lead and tried to drag him there - difficult when you have a dog that weighs 122lbs!! I again walked him away and returned, let him off the lead and this time he went into the Dutch barn quite happily and had a good old sniff around.

I spoke to other handlers about this afterwards, and two of them had had identical experiences with their dogs in exactly the same place.

Those dogs were trained attack dogs but for some strange reason they picked up on something that the handlers didn't see but they sensed and didn't like.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Okay, let's expand this subject a little further. Do animals have a sixth sense? I ask this because it's something that I think is true.

I was a police dog handler in the RAF. At RAF Waddington in Lincolnshire we used to patrol a bmomb dump. The bombs were stored on trolleys ready to be taken to the aircraft for arming. The trolleys were stored in Dutch barn type strucures. One night I was patrolling through there with the dog, when he stopped, turned to his left and stared into one of the Dutch barns. He was a long haired German Shepherd and while he was stood staring into the barn, he gave a surreal sounding howl and his fur all stood out on end, and he was stood rigid with a fixed stare. I pulled him away, walked a short distance away and went back to the same spot and let him off the lead. He 'cast' about all around the Dutch barn but would not go into it, even when I put him back on his lead and tried to drag him there - difficult when you have a dog that weighs 122lbs!! I again walked him away and returned, let him off the lead and this time he went into the Dutch barn quite happily and had a good old sniff around.

I spoke to other handlers about this afterwards, and two of them had had identical experiences with their dogs in exactly the same place.

Those dogs were trained attack dogs but for some strange reason they picked up on something that the handlers didn't see but they sensed and didn't like."

bmomb?? try bomb!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No 6th sense just very good 5 senses

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By *kin BohnerMan  over a year ago

derby


"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead

If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as

"

So how do you account for 'air'?

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By *unky monkeyMan  over a year ago

in the night garden

I believe in goats.

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"You cannot prove something doesn't exist, only that it does.

Hahaha

I can't prove there isn't a lion in my garden.

Although,

I and lots of others have never seen one,there are no lion shaped foot prints,or no lion shit.

But a person around the corner has never seen inside my garden says there is because they heard one.

It was my dog growling.

Open your eyes investigate and think about occams razor."

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By *kin BohnerMan  over a year ago

derby

There is NO evidence of god or that his supposed son once walk the earth but millions of people believe it!

I have experienced a couple of things that I cant explain but accept there may be a logical explication other than supernatural. There are 'events' that people have failed to explain so I do think there is some kind of natural phoneme but what that is I have no idea.

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"There is NO evidence of god or that his supposed son once walk the earth but millions of people believe it!

I have experienced a couple of things that I cant explain but accept there may be a logical explication other than supernatural. There are 'events' that people have failed to explain so I do think there is some kind of natural phoneme but what that is I have no idea. "

That's the point! I have no problem in what people believe. I do have a problem with being told something is true based on spurious evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have seen two very clear apparitions; one of a small girl in the bedroom of a relatives house and another of a aviator sat in a gun turret of a Lancaster bomber in the RAF museum at Hendon.

In both cases I felt relaxed and not scared at all.

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By *icky55Man  over a year ago

Warm an cosy cave. Brist

Ghosts don't go to parties, because they have no body to go with

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By *bbandflowCouple  over a year ago

South Devon

As the only animal aware of our own mortality we have always constructed beliefs, religions, myths, that allow us to cling to an alternative to the bleak finality of our own and other deaths.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

One of my Uncles passed away at his home many years ago. He had an old round tobacco container made of metal. He always kept it in a cupboard in the kitchen. After he passed away, Auntie decided she would move the container into a drawer below that cupboard.

After she moved the container, three times that drawer came open in the space of a month, fell to the floor each time and its contents spilled out, including the tobacco container when Auntie was sat in her living room.

She said that her husband was still there in spirit and must have not liked her moving his tobacco container. She decided to put it back in the cupboard where Uncle used to keep it. After that the kitchen drawers stayed in the units, opening only when used as normal.

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By *isscheekychopsWoman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

My mum and dad old house was haunted you could hear it walking about....quite surreal really never felt threatened..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

ghosts, afterlife, fairys, and boogie men, superior beings, religion and leprechauns........all proof they exist is as credible as each other.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead

If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as

So how do you account for 'air'? "

You feel air you need it to breath

Did you not do science at school

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead

If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as

So how do you account for 'air'?

You feel air you need it to breath

Did you not do science at school "

Also from science; you can't destroy energy.

Are ghosts residual energy?

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By *kin BohnerMan  over a year ago

derby

I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

"

residual energy.........most of the bodies energy goes back into the earth (when buried) or burned into heat when cremated...but what if some of that energy remians contained within leaves an imprint in the structure of where that person died? Anything can contain energy..metal, brickwork, wood..

Just speculating but it does have the basis in scientific fact.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

residual energy.........most of the bodies energy goes back into the earth (when buried) or burned into heat when cremated...but what if some of that energy remians contained within leaves an imprint in the structure of where that person died? Anything can contain energy..metal, brickwork, wood..

Just speculating but it does have the basis in scientific fact.

"

Yeah,,,, residual energy left in the form of nutrients or heat if burned ,,,,, but not ghosts!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity... "

I do hope that is sarcasm.

If the air suddenley disapeared you would be dead before you tried to take your next breath.

The pressure of the air stops your internals boiling and expanding at a rate that paracetamol will not help.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity... "

Try sticking a fork in a plug socket. I get the feeling you might feel it then. or lightning ? or a van Der graaf generator? you'll see it with both of them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity...

Try sticking a fork in a plug socket. I get the feeling you might feel it then. or lightning ? or a van Der graaf generator? you'll see it with both of them"

Or a Tesla coil. Saw one of them working in CA last year....BAM!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

"

my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't believe in ghosts - but I also don't believe science has the answer to everything and I don't think you'll find a credible scientist who would claim that it does - and yet people feel they can state absolute 'facts'. All those 'facts' are just the current way we accept things to be - give it a hundred years and people will laugh at how naive we were now. (I'll know, because I'll be watching..)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!"

Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!

Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? "

It used to sniff crotches.

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By *evilwolfCouple  over a year ago

Leicestershire

I was a hugely sceptical about it all until I experienced several things over the years that have made me severely question that scepticality. I can't classify them as ghosts for certain, I can't classify them as a psycho-visual-disturbance or hallucination or any kind, but they happened all the same. It left me puzzled enough to want to know more in order to understand.

One event was during a practice session. Something walked right through my stage amp and made an horrendous crashing noise through it. accompanied by a big smell of ozone in the air before and just after that could only have been made by something far more powerful than just an amp.- I mean.. my amp isn't an ionizer? This ozone smell stayed in the air for some time afterwards. Then it just disappeared.

My mum used to get the same kind of 'visitors' too. They started to come and see me in the same way, just like she had happen, in her teens.

Not that I mind, the dead certainly won't harm you - it's the living you've got to worry about.

lol

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!

Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? "

the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!

Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog?

the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about!"

So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!

Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog?

the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about!

So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ?"

yes!

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By *unky monkeyMan  over a year ago

in the night garden

I have definitely sensed presents before.

My mum used to hide them in her wardrobe, One time I found Stretch Armstrong and got it out for a sneaky play but I put a hole in his foot by accident and all this gooey stuff came out. It could have been ectoplasm like a haunted presents.

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By *bbandflowCouple  over a year ago

South Devon


"I don't believe in ghosts - but I also don't believe science has the answer to everything and I don't think you'll find a credible scientist who would claim that it does - and yet people feel they can state absolute 'facts'. All those 'facts' are just the current way we accept things to be - give it a hundred years and people will laugh at how naive we were now. (I'll know, because I'll be watching..)"

So, why don't you believe in ghosts?

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By *evilwolfCouple  over a year ago

Leicestershire


"I have definitely sensed presents before.

My mum used to hide them in her wardrobe, One time I found Stretch Armstrong and got it out for a sneaky play but I put a hole in his foot by accident and all this gooey stuff came out. It could have been ectoplasm like a haunted presents."

Don't go towards the light!

Wolf

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!

Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog?

the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about!

So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ?

yes!"

So if they were your feelings.... does that not mean, they did not come from the dog ?,,,,

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!

Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog?

the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about!

So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ?

yes!

So if they were your feelings.... does that not mean, they did not come from the dog ?,,,, "

what do you mean!? we just knew it was the dog, the sounds we heard knew it was her, the feelings we felt we knew it was the dog

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!

Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog?

the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about!

So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ?

yes!

So if they were your feelings.... does that not mean, they did not come from the dog ?,,,,

what do you mean!? we just knew it was the dog, the sounds we heard knew it was her, the feelings we felt we knew it was the dog "

So..it did sniff your crotch then?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have definitely sensed presents before.

My mum used to hide them in her wardrobe, One time I found Stretch Armstrong and got it out for a sneaky play but I put a hole in his foot by accident and all this gooey stuff came out. It could have been ectoplasm like a haunted presents."

I am sure you cut it deliberately to see what was inside. I did.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

Used to be very sceptical and have always based my beliefs on science re religion etc..

have tended to become more open the older i get to the fact that 'we' as humans dont know everything..

we used to be more spiritual centuries ago, yes a lot was based on ignorance of the planet we inhabit..

maybe that spiritual side of us as beings has been clouded, who knows..

just because there is not cast iron proof of something now, does not mean there may be in the future..

after all we know little about our own brains, its workings and capacity etc..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!

Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog?

the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about!

So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ?

yes!

So if they were your feelings.... does that not mean, they did not come from the dog ?,,,,

what do you mean!? we just knew it was the dog, the sounds we heard knew it was her, the feelings we felt we knew it was the dog

So..it did sniff your crotch then?"

hope not!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When at training camp, us trainee airmen doing our trade training had to do duty at the guardroom and do building lock ups at night from time to time. There was one particular building that was the NAAFI and airman's mess, plus recreation rooms. The NAAFI & mess were on the ground floor & the rec rooms upstairs. One night me and my mate were sent to lockdown this building. We secured the ground floor first then went upstairs. The top floor was laid out with a toilet at either end of the corridor and two central rooms with snooker tables and table tennis tables. We went and turned out the first toilets lights, closed the door and went to secure the games rooms. Turned all their lights out, locked the doors and went along to the other toilets, turned out the lights and went down the other stairs. Got outside and locked the door. On looking at the building we saw a light on upstairs, so we went back in and found it to be a toilet light. Turned it off and as we were locking the door we heard something clicking,like snooker balls being played. We went to the games rooms and saw the light on over a billiards table and the balls on the table plus a cue. Strange because when we locked up the billiards table was clear & light off.

We cleared the table, turned the light off and left the room, locking the doors after us. We checked the rest of the building including the ground floor just in case we'd missed someone. All was deserted. So we locked the front doors again, and, on looking up we saw the same lights on as before.

We radioed to the guardroom and asked for back up before we re-entered the building. When back-up arrived we told the Sergeant i/c what had happened. He said that it sounded like the boys were having a night back. We asked what he meant. He said that it was thought that two aircrew, who had been killed in action in WW11, had spirits that returned every now and again. That particular building had been the Officer's Mess during the war.

We said that was a bit far fetched but he said to us that it was known that 2 particular aircrew were keen billiards players and often played together during any 'down-time'. Anyway, the Sgt said to follow him and go back upstairs. Sure enough the scenario was the same - lights on and cue+balls on the table. The Sgt said to leave things as they were and just leave the building and lock up, which we all did.

Furtunately our course came to an end

before I had to do guardroom duty again!!

I have an open mind to these things, as has been said here before, the subject of there being the afterlife and ghost/spirits have neither been proved or disproved. Until such can be done I will remain open minded.

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By *unky monkeyMan  over a year ago

in the night garden


"I have definitely sensed presents before.

My mum used to hide them in her wardrobe, One time I found Stretch Armstrong and got it out for a sneaky play but I put a hole in his foot by accident and all this gooey stuff came out. It could have been ectoplasm like a haunted presents.

I am sure you cut it deliberately to see what was inside. I did."

I must admit there was a certin curiosity to see what was magical and stretchy inside

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"When at training camp, us trainee airmen doing our trade training had to do duty at the guardroom and do building lock ups at night from time to time. There was one particular building that was the NAAFI and airman's mess, plus recreation rooms. The NAAFI & mess were on the ground floor & the rec rooms upstairs. One night me and my mate were sent to lockdown this building. We secured the ground floor first then went upstairs. The top floor was laid out with a toilet at either end of the corridor and two central rooms with snooker tables and table tennis tables. We went and turned out the first toilets lights, closed the door and went to secure the games rooms. Turned all their lights out, locked the doors and went along to the other toilets, turned out the lights and went down the other stairs. Got outside and locked the door. On looking at the building we saw a light on upstairs, so we went back in and found it to be a toilet light. Turned it off and as we were locking the door we heard something clicking,like snooker balls being played. We went to the games rooms and saw the light on over a billiards table and the balls on the table plus a cue. Strange because when we locked up the billiards table was clear & light off.

We cleared the table, turned the light off and left the room, locking the doors after us. We checked the rest of the building including the ground floor just in case we'd missed someone. All was deserted. So we locked the front doors again, and, on looking up we saw the same lights on as before.

We radioed to the guardroom and asked for back up before we re-entered the building. When back-up arrived we told the Sergeant i/c what had happened. He said that it sounded like the boys were having a night back. We asked what he meant. He said that it was thought that two aircrew, who had been killed in action in WW11, had spirits that returned every now and again. That particular building had been the Officer's Mess during the war.

We said that was a bit far fetched but he said to us that it was known that 2 particular aircrew were keen billiards players and often played together during any 'down-time'. Anyway, the Sgt said to follow him and go back upstairs. Sure enough the scenario was the same - lights on and cue+balls on the table. The Sgt said to leave things as they were and just leave the building and lock up, which we all did.

Furtunately our course came to an end

before I had to do guardroom duty again!!

I have an open mind to these things, as has been said here before, the subject of there being the afterlife and ghost/spirits have neither been proved or disproved. Until such can be done I will remain open minded.

"

Sewrved in Germany and the camp we were in like many others was used by the German Army, built in the early 1900's..

there was an SS tank Battalion stationed in our particular one, on more than one occasion during my 3 and a half years there were stories of someone hearing marching in the very early hours..

no one had ever seen anything untoward but the guys who reckoned they had heard it were convinced that they had..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!.

Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes…

Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh!

my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!

Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog?

the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about!

So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ?

yes!

So if they were your feelings.... does that not mean, they did not come from the dog ?,,,,

what do you mean!? we just knew it was the dog, the sounds we heard knew it was her, the feelings we felt we knew it was the dog "

I don’t doubt you felt something that your happy to interpret as you have,,,,,

But without tangible evidence it can be only explained as an emotional instinct coupled to a desire to believe.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Has anyone mentioned infrasound yet?

Infrasound is basically anything below 20hz which is the lower limit of human hearing... Usually!

You can't usually hear it but you can 'feel' it and it can do freaky things to you. Some scientists played it during a concert and the concertgoers reported feeling dread, intense depression... All kinds of spooky stuff.

Also you can get people to see weird stuff by playing a tone at about 18.9hz. Apparently that's the resonant frequency of the jelly inside our eyeballs or something like that and it can cause your eye to vibrate slightly which causes some weird visual distortions.

The thing is though, these sounds can be reproduced naturally... They think that's why some buildings get a reputation as being haunted, because something in their construction causes them to put out these freaky tones.

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By *ypernovaMan  over a year ago

SW Brum

"Monsters are real, and ghosts are real too. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win"

Stephen King

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Has anyone mentioned infrasound yet?

Infrasound is basically anything below 20hz which is the lower limit of human hearing... Usually!

You can't usually hear it but you can 'feel' it and it can do freaky things to you. Some scientists played it during a concert and the concertgoers reported feeling dread, intense depression... All kinds of spooky stuff.

Also you can get people to see weird stuff by playing a tone at about 18.9hz. Apparently that's the resonant frequency of the jelly inside our eyeballs or something like that and it can cause your eye to vibrate slightly which causes some weird visual distortions.

The thing is though, these sounds can be reproduced naturally... They think that's why some buildings get a reputation as being haunted, because something in their construction causes them to put out these freaky tones."

So if something that can occur naturally can also be replicated in lab conditions and is given a scientific explanation,,,,, what’s the mystery?,,,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oops did I just spoil the discussion :P

Even after reading all that though I still think that it's still possible that some of these things are caused by something that we just don't understand...

One of my friends had an interesting theory... I forget the details but she thought the ghost thing could be something to with some sort of quantum thing doing something crazy with time and giving us a hazy view of things that happened in the past... Sounds nuts but when you read about all the stuff they're discovering about the universe every day who nows what's possible.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i wont say yes there is or not.its the same for is there a god or not.no one prove it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i wont say yes there is or not.its the same for is there a god or not.no one prove it "

you can't prove the unprovable but then you can't know the unknowable either

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'd love to have an unshakeable belief in higher forces..... I'm very envious of people who derive comfort from faith in such things…

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

numerous tests have been done by psychologists proving that the human brain will take samples of information and make up a conclusion.

if ghosts were real we would all know about it.

ive never seen the falklands but from all the information i can gather id be happy to wager a chunk of money they are real.

ghosts on the other hand are b.s

the people who tell their little anecdotal meetings must understand they dont count for anything in regards to evidence.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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"I'd love to have an unshakeable belief in higher forces..... I'm very envious of people who derive comfort from faith in such things…"

Me too. My father has such faith and it has seen him through terrible times but I just can't make that leap.

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By *kin BohnerMan  over a year ago

derby


"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity...

I do hope that is sarcasm.

If the air suddenley disapeared you would be dead before you tried to take your next breath.

The pressure of the air stops your internals boiling and expanding at a rate that paracetamol will not help."

No its not sarcasm! Ok tell me because I must be missing something, what does air 'feel' like? What does it 'smell' of?

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By *kin BohnerMan  over a year ago

derby


"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity...

Try sticking a fork in a plug socket. I get the feeling you might feel it then. or lightning ? or a van Der graaf generator? you'll see it with both of them"

No, all you will feel is the effect electricity has on the skin and body. You can not actually touch electricity. I can feel and touch the blade of a knife but its totally different to what I'd feel if I cut myself on that blade. See the difference?

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


""Monsters are real, and ghosts are real too. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win"

Stephen King

"

Evidence from a fiction writer? LOL

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't believe in ghosts - but I also don't believe science has the answer to everything and I don't think you'll find a credible scientist who would claim that it does - and yet people feel they can state absolute 'facts'. All those 'facts' are just the current way we accept things to be - give it a hundred years and people will laugh at how naive we were now. (I'll know, because I'll be watching..)

So, why don't you believe in ghosts?"

I don't believe in them in the ghostbusters type sense. I like the possibility that humans may have a lost skill of communication - similar to telepathy - but that through verbal communication it's become weak. Sometimes though, maybe aspects of it still get picked up and these become interpreted as visions/strange occurences etc. etc.

My point though is there's a difference between what I believe and stating it as though it's absolute fact.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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people will believe what they want to believe despite evidence to the contrary. It is how religion has survived since man first walked upright, why women believe abusive men love them, why beautiful people with normal bodies believe they're fat... I could go on.

This argument will never be settled and the cynics will no more be convinced than the believers will.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity...

I do hope that is sarcasm.

If the air suddenley disapeared you would be dead before you tried to take your next breath.

The pressure of the air stops your internals boiling and expanding at a rate that paracetamol will not help.

No its not sarcasm! Ok tell me because I must be missing something, what does air 'feel' like? What does it 'smell' of? "

as a human my nose isnt that good.

im sure your ears have popped before,thats air pressure.THE FEEL OF AIR!!!

like i said,go to high altitude,you can feel the difference.ive felt it when i have been high above sea level

what part of it dont you understand?

if you are trying to compare bullshit like ghosts to air then trot on

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


""Monsters are real, and ghosts are real too. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win"

Stephen King

Evidence from a fiction writer? LOL "

He's written factual stuff too! I think he meant it as a metaphor for evil inside people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It seems futile arguing over semantics when the evidence is, "there is no evidence"… ...init..eh!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When at training camp, us trainee airmen doing our trade training had to do duty at the guardroom and do building lock ups at night from time to time. There was one particular building that was the NAAFI and airman's mess, plus recreation rooms. The NAAFI & mess were on the ground floor & the rec rooms upstairs. One night me and my mate were sent to lockdown this building. We secured the ground floor first then went upstairs. The top floor was laid out with a toilet at either end of the corridor and two central rooms with snooker tables and table tennis tables. We went and turned out the first toilets lights, closed the door and went to secure the games rooms. Turned all their lights out, locked the doors and went along to the other toilets, turned out the lights and went down the other stairs. Got outside and locked the door. On looking at the building we saw a light on upstairs, so we went back in and found it to be a toilet light. Turned it off and as we were locking the door we heard something clicking,like snooker balls being played. We went to the games rooms and saw the light on over a billiards table and the balls on the table plus a cue. Strange because when we locked up the billiards table was clear & light off.

We cleared the table, turned the light off and left the room, locking the doors after us. We checked the rest of the building including the ground floor just in case we'd missed someone. All was deserted. So we locked the front doors again, and, on looking up we saw the same lights on as before.

We radioed to the guardroom and asked for back up before we re-entered the building. When back-up arrived we told the Sergeant i/c what had happened. He said that it sounded like the boys were having a night back. We asked what he meant. He said that it was thought that two aircrew, who had been killed in action in WW11, had spirits that returned every now and again. That particular building had been the Officer's Mess during the war.

We said that was a bit far fetched but he said to us that it was known that 2 particular aircrew were keen billiards players and often played together during any 'down-time'. Anyway, the Sgt said to follow him and go back upstairs. Sure enough the scenario was the same - lights on and cue+balls on the table. The Sgt said to leave things as they were and just leave the building and lock up, which we all did.

Furtunately our course came to an end

before I had to do guardroom duty again!!

I have an open mind to these things, as has been said here before, the subject of there being the afterlife and ghost/spirits have neither been proved or disproved. Until such can be done I will remain open minded.

Sewrved in Germany and the camp we were in like many others was used by the German Army, built in the early 1900's..

there was an SS tank Battalion stationed in our particular one, on more than one occasion during my 3 and a half years there were stories of someone hearing marching in the very early hours..

no one had ever seen anything untoward but the guys who reckoned they had heard it were convinced that they had.."

Gatow by any chance?

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By *kin BohnerMan  over a year ago

derby


"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity...

I do hope that is sarcasm.

If the air suddenley disapeared you would be dead before you tried to take your next breath.

The pressure of the air stops your internals boiling and expanding at a rate that paracetamol will not help.

No its not sarcasm! Ok tell me because I must be missing something, what does air 'feel' like? What does it 'smell' of?

as a human my nose isnt that good.

im sure your ears have popped before,thats air pressure.THE FEEL OF AIR!!!

like i said,go to high altitude,you can feel the difference.ive felt it when i have been high above sea level

what part of it dont you understand?

if you are trying to compare bullshit like ghosts to air then trot on

"

Gosh... you cant grasp what I am saying so you get a little childish, why! Everything you say is correct but that has nothing to do with the actual feel of air. You are describing the affects of altitude and air pressure... not the 'feel' of air. Ok please describe how air feels if you rub it between your fingers, describe what air looks like and how it smells. I am not trying to compare anything with anything else, its just someone said they only believe things they can smell, touch and see. My point is there are things that do exist that as humans we cannot smell, touch or see. Air and electricity are two of them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity...

I do hope that is sarcasm.

If the air suddenley disapeared you would be dead before you tried to take your next breath.

The pressure of the air stops your internals boiling and expanding at a rate that paracetamol will not help.

No its not sarcasm! Ok tell me because I must be missing something, what does air 'feel' like? What does it 'smell' of?

as a human my nose isnt that good.

im sure your ears have popped before,thats air pressure.THE FEEL OF AIR!!!

like i said,go to high altitude,you can feel the difference.ive felt it when i have been high above sea level

what part of it dont you understand?

if you are trying to compare bullshit like ghosts to air then trot on

Gosh... you cant grasp what I am saying so you get a little childish, why! Everything you say is correct but that has nothing to do with the actual feel of air. You are describing the affects of altitude and air pressure... not the 'feel' of air. Ok please describe how air feels if you rub it between your fingers, describe what air looks like and how it smells. I am not trying to compare anything with anything else, its just someone said they only believe things they can smell, touch and see. My point is there are things that do exist that as humans we cannot smell, touch or see. Air and electricity are two of them. "

It's the usual arrogance of man!! We think we know everything :-/ the bits that we can't explain don't understand we try to ignore and ridicule!!!

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By *teborahCouple  over a year ago

warrington


"No such thing as ghosts.

No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon."

Allegedly!

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By *B9 QueenWoman  over a year ago

Over the rainbow, under the bridge


"No such thing as ghosts.

No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon.

Allegedly!"

Not allegedly. The proof is there.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes I have

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By *londeCazWoman  over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria


"Has anyone mentioned infrasound yet?

Infrasound is basically anything below 20hz which is the lower limit of human hearing... Usually!

You can't usually hear it but you can 'feel' it and it can do freaky things to you. Some scientists played it during a concert and the concertgoers reported feeling dread, intense depression... All kinds of spooky stuff.

"

Wasn't a Coldplay concert by any chance was it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Has anyone mentioned infrasound yet?

Infrasound is basically anything below 20hz which is the lower limit of human hearing... Usually!

You can't usually hear it but you can 'feel' it and it can do freaky things to you. Some scientists played it during a concert and the concertgoers reported feeling dread, intense depression... All kinds of spooky stuff.

Wasn't a Coldplay concert by any chance was it? "

Never had one in the house... only a hotel.

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By *londeCazWoman  over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria


"

the people who tell their little anecdotal meetings must understand they dont count for anything in regards to evidence.

"

Whether they count for anything as empirical evidence means nothing to me, my encounters that I haven't been able to explain "rationally" are evidence to me of the existence of ghosts

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

the people who tell their little anecdotal meetings must understand they dont count for anything in regards to evidence.

Whether they count for anything as empirical evidence means nothing to me, my encounters that I haven't been able to explain "rationally" are evidence to me of the existence of ghosts"

well write a paper on it and get it out to all the big names in the subject and go and collect your nobel prize.

my daughter believes santa exists also...guess what?

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By *londeCazWoman  over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria


"

the people who tell their little anecdotal meetings must understand they dont count for anything in regards to evidence.

Whether they count for anything as empirical evidence means nothing to me, my encounters that I haven't been able to explain "rationally" are evidence to me of the existence of ghosts

well write a paper on it and get it out to all the big names in the subject and go and collect your nobel prize.

my daughter believes santa exists also...guess what?"

Ooh, thanks for that idea! You don't seem to like it if anyone has a different opinion to you - can't you just agree to disagree without being disagreeable about it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

the people who tell their little anecdotal meetings must understand they dont count for anything in regards to evidence.

Whether they count for anything as empirical evidence means nothing to me, my encounters that I haven't been able to explain "rationally" are evidence to me of the existence of ghosts

well write a paper on it and get it out to all the big names in the subject and go and collect your nobel prize.

my daughter believes santa exists also...guess what?

Ooh, thanks for that idea! You don't seem to like it if anyone has a different opinion to you - can't you just agree to disagree without being disagreeable about it?"

Think everone should take the thread in the 'spirit' which which it is intended

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