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"you mean has anyone evr had the willies up them?" lol! love it! | |||
"you mean has anyone evr had the willies up them?" | |||
"No. They don't exist" That's why they're ghosts. | |||
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"No. They don't exist" plenty of people have seen ghosts or think they have x | |||
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"No. They don't exist" Of course they do lol | |||
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"Has Anyone ever seen a ghost or maybe have one in their house ? Strange post I know lol x" I believe one lives in the house belonging to R. Dean Taylor, or so he sez ! | |||
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"I aint afraid of no goats " | |||
"No. They don't exist plenty of people have seen ghosts or think they have x" think they have being the key word here I do believe lots of people think they have seen ghosts but everything can be explained if you look into it, if you want to believe it was a ghost you will | |||
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"No. They don't exist plenty of people have seen ghosts or think they have x think they have being the key word here I do believe lots of people think they have seen ghosts but everything can be explained if you look into it, if you want to believe it was a ghost you will" You mean they are like "HONEST" politicians, people claim to have seen one but there is no evidence to prove it | |||
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"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as " Oxygen springs to mind. | |||
"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as " Gravity ? | |||
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"I once saw Gloria Gaynor's ghost At first I was afraid, I was petrified." PMSL | |||
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"Who you gonna call......GHOST BUSTERS" | |||
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"No such thing as ghosts. No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon." but they haven't been able to prove they are not there either.. I believe because I know I have seen some... | |||
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"Has Anyone ever seen a ghost or maybe have one in their house ? Strange post I know lol x I believe one lives in the house belonging to R. Dean Taylor, or so he sez ! " | |||
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"No such thing as ghosts. No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon. but they haven't been able to prove they are not there either.. I believe because I know I have seen some... " Many cases proclaimed by pseudo scientists which have been properly and scientifically investigated have been found to have real and rational explanations. | |||
"No such thing as ghosts. No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon. but they haven't been able to prove they are not there either.. I believe because I know I have seen some... Many cases proclaimed by pseudo scientists which have been properly and scientifically investigated have been found to have real and rational explanations. " But not all... It was only a few years ago that there was a tribe pictured in a rainforest that had never been seen before.. What else is out there we haven't discovered? What 40 years ago noone knew what dna was Etc | |||
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"I once saw Gloria Gaynor's ghost At first I was afraid, I was petrified." Chill ! "Don't fear the reaper", well that's blue oyster cult's theory | |||
"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips " That's an interesting theory | |||
"Anyone who thinks they have one, don't be inviting us over " lol was wondering how many people would block us because of the house. We haven't seen any, yet... | |||
"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips " that would explain people walking thru walls where there may have previously been a door | |||
"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips " I've come across this theory and it does seem logical. | |||
"No such thing as ghosts. No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon. but they haven't been able to prove they are not there either.. I believe because I know I have seen some... Many cases proclaimed by pseudo scientists which have been properly and scientifically investigated have been found to have real and rational explanations. But not all... It was only a few years ago that there was a tribe pictured in a rainforest that had never been seen before.. What else is out there we haven't discovered? What 40 years ago noone knew what dna was Etc" The point was that many cases have been proven to be false. NONE have been proven to be real. And 'ghosts' are hardly lost and undiscovered. In spite of all our technological brilliance not a single case has been found to have one single iota of validity on close investigation. Not one. | |||
"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as Gravity ? " you touch that tho....when you hit the floor | |||
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"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips that would explain people walking thru walls where there may have previously been a door" At the Battle of Bosworth visitor centre and the ACTUAL battlefield near stoke golding have witnessed some strange things over many times living on site during teaching sessions and the local farmers dog was howling really heart rendering on these occasions as if he could sense something. Seen mist suddenly move sideways where there was no wind and seen figures of people when no one was in the area as it was fenced off but never anything solid hence could be just a memory recorded into the environment which some people can tune into more readily? Who knows? | |||
"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips " Stone tape theory | |||
"I could well believe that apparitions and sound could be echoes of the past recorded in buildings or surroundings that we disturb and play back the image and sound.....not so far fetched when you can record music, speech and moving pictures on vinyl , magnetic tape, plastic discs, and silicon chips Stone tape theory " Maybe it was recorded on a 12" (millstone)Disc | |||
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"My old family home had at least two. One in the kitchen who used to tug on your clothes while you were cooking. She was sat on a chair next to where the range would have been. There was also a maid on the top floor and something in the garden. My sister and I were followed around Beaumaris by soldiers. We could hear their footsteps and weapons behind us." wow!! one of my ghosts have followed me, we had alot of things happened while we have been in this new house, from seeing them to being hit lol. like last night S was sitting on sofa watching tv while K was on pc the other side of the room and S got hit on the back of her head K heard it, S felt a hard hit on the back of her head and then during the night S felt someone lying the other side of her in bed (not K) as he was the other side, then S felt this person/thing get up and go but also smelt burning paper so she got up looking for it but there was no fire, and would only smell it in the one place no-where else and K couldnt smell it at all.. but now the smell has gone! S thinks it was her grandad who came to visit and sit/lie down next to her as she was very close to her grandad when he was alive and also been told by a medium her grandad comes to visit S and makes sure shes safe :D x | |||
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"This is a ticket from the Science Police: Please think,fact check and/or talk to an expert before posting again thank you " ??? i have spoken with many mediums and priests/vicars | |||
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"Does watching rent a ghost count " haha x | |||
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"I believe. People that say science proves that ghosts/ aliens etc don't exist make me laugh. Not that long ago science said the world was flat! They don't know everything yet. They might exist, they might not........." No that's wrong. It's been known and understood for millennia that the world was NOT flat actually. That's a common myth. The Romans and Greeks certainly understood it was spherical. It was understood that it was in the Mediaeval period. No scientists don't know everything but certainly many haunting cases have been definitively proven to have a rational explanation and that was not that ghosts were responsible. No paranormal 'scientist' has ever come up with irrefutable proof of the existence of ghosts. Just because something is, currently, unexplainable does not constitute the actual existence of spirits. | |||
"You cannot prove something doesn't exist, only that it does." So, by that logic the existence of the Tooth Fairy is possible. | |||
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"This is a ticket from the Science Police: Please think,fact check and/or talk to an expert before posting again thank you ??? i have spoken with many mediums and priests/vicars " and they don't have an agenda.one sees it as a business ones whole life is based on the Holy Ghost. That doesn't make them experts.A Priests whole belief is based on something that is unprovable. Until a scientific evidence,peer reviewed and accepted id published I'll tend to not believe in them | |||
"You cannot prove something doesn't exist, only that it does. So, by that logic the existence of the Tooth Fairy is possible." thats the whole point. you can claim anything without evidence. its usually followed by fingers in ears and la la la not listening. tooth fairy,ghosts,moon walking unicorns,god. a belief doesn't make it so. irrefutable evidence will | |||
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"I aint afraid of no goats " You're kidding..... | |||
"I aint afraid of no goats You're kidding..... " Only when he's horny *Steve said gruffly* | |||
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"You cannot prove something doesn't exist, only that it does." Hahaha I can't prove there isn't a lion in my garden. Although, I and lots of others have never seen one,there are no lion shaped foot prints,or no lion shit. But a person around the corner has never seen inside my garden says there is because they heard one. It was my dog growling. Open your eyes investigate and think about occams razor. | |||
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"Okay, let's expand this subject a little further. Do animals have a sixth sense? I ask this because it's something that I think is true. I was a police dog handler in the RAF. At RAF Waddington in Lincolnshire we used to patrol a bmomb dump. The bombs were stored on trolleys ready to be taken to the aircraft for arming. The trolleys were stored in Dutch barn type strucures. One night I was patrolling through there with the dog, when he stopped, turned to his left and stared into one of the Dutch barns. He was a long haired German Shepherd and while he was stood staring into the barn, he gave a surreal sounding howl and his fur all stood out on end, and he was stood rigid with a fixed stare. I pulled him away, walked a short distance away and went back to the same spot and let him off the lead. He 'cast' about all around the Dutch barn but would not go into it, even when I put him back on his lead and tried to drag him there - difficult when you have a dog that weighs 122lbs!! I again walked him away and returned, let him off the lead and this time he went into the Dutch barn quite happily and had a good old sniff around. I spoke to other handlers about this afterwards, and two of them had had identical experiences with their dogs in exactly the same place. Those dogs were trained attack dogs but for some strange reason they picked up on something that the handlers didn't see but they sensed and didn't like." bmomb?? try bomb! | |||
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"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as " So how do you account for 'air'? | |||
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"You cannot prove something doesn't exist, only that it does. Hahaha I can't prove there isn't a lion in my garden. Although, I and lots of others have never seen one,there are no lion shaped foot prints,or no lion shit. But a person around the corner has never seen inside my garden says there is because they heard one. It was my dog growling. Open your eyes investigate and think about occams razor." | |||
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"There is NO evidence of god or that his supposed son once walk the earth but millions of people believe it! I have experienced a couple of things that I cant explain but accept there may be a logical explication other than supernatural. There are 'events' that people have failed to explain so I do think there is some kind of natural phoneme but what that is I have no idea. " That's the point! I have no problem in what people believe. I do have a problem with being told something is true based on spurious evidence. | |||
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"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as So how do you account for 'air'? " You feel air you need it to breath Did you not do science at school | |||
"I think the whole idea of ghosts is just ridiculous, when your dead your dead If i cant see it, feel it, smell it or touch it its not there simple as So how do you account for 'air'? You feel air you need it to breath Did you not do science at school " Also from science; you can't destroy energy. Are ghosts residual energy? | |||
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"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! " residual energy.........most of the bodies energy goes back into the earth (when buried) or burned into heat when cremated...but what if some of that energy remians contained within leaves an imprint in the structure of where that person died? Anything can contain energy..metal, brickwork, wood.. Just speculating but it does have the basis in scientific fact. | |||
"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! residual energy.........most of the bodies energy goes back into the earth (when buried) or burned into heat when cremated...but what if some of that energy remians contained within leaves an imprint in the structure of where that person died? Anything can contain energy..metal, brickwork, wood.. Just speculating but it does have the basis in scientific fact. " Yeah,,,, residual energy left in the form of nutrients or heat if burned ,,,,, but not ghosts!!! | |||
"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity... " I do hope that is sarcasm. If the air suddenley disapeared you would be dead before you tried to take your next breath. The pressure of the air stops your internals boiling and expanding at a rate that paracetamol will not help. | |||
"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity... " Try sticking a fork in a plug socket. I get the feeling you might feel it then. or lightning ? or a van Der graaf generator? you'll see it with both of them | |||
"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity... Try sticking a fork in a plug socket. I get the feeling you might feel it then. or lightning ? or a van Der graaf generator? you'll see it with both of them" Or a Tesla coil. Saw one of them working in CA last year....BAM! | |||
"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! " my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!! | |||
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"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!!" Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? | |||
"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!! Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? " It used to sniff crotches. | |||
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"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!! Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? " the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about! | |||
"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!! Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about!" So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ? | |||
"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!! Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about! So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ?" yes! | |||
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"I don't believe in ghosts - but I also don't believe science has the answer to everything and I don't think you'll find a credible scientist who would claim that it does - and yet people feel they can state absolute 'facts'. All those 'facts' are just the current way we accept things to be - give it a hundred years and people will laugh at how naive we were now. (I'll know, because I'll be watching..)" So, why don't you believe in ghosts? | |||
"I have definitely sensed presents before. My mum used to hide them in her wardrobe, One time I found Stretch Armstrong and got it out for a sneaky play but I put a hole in his foot by accident and all this gooey stuff came out. It could have been ectoplasm like a haunted presents." Don't go towards the light! Wolf | |||
"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!! Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about! So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ? yes!" So if they were your feelings.... does that not mean, they did not come from the dog ?,,,, | |||
"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!! Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about! So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ? yes! So if they were your feelings.... does that not mean, they did not come from the dog ?,,,, " what do you mean!? we just knew it was the dog, the sounds we heard knew it was her, the feelings we felt we knew it was the dog | |||
"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!! Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about! So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ? yes! So if they were your feelings.... does that not mean, they did not come from the dog ?,,,, what do you mean!? we just knew it was the dog, the sounds we heard knew it was her, the feelings we felt we knew it was the dog " So..it did sniff your crotch then? | |||
"I have definitely sensed presents before. My mum used to hide them in her wardrobe, One time I found Stretch Armstrong and got it out for a sneaky play but I put a hole in his foot by accident and all this gooey stuff came out. It could have been ectoplasm like a haunted presents." I am sure you cut it deliberately to see what was inside. I did. | |||
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"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!! Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about! So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ? yes! So if they were your feelings.... does that not mean, they did not come from the dog ?,,,, what do you mean!? we just knew it was the dog, the sounds we heard knew it was her, the feelings we felt we knew it was the dog So..it did sniff your crotch then?" hope not! | |||
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"I have definitely sensed presents before. My mum used to hide them in her wardrobe, One time I found Stretch Armstrong and got it out for a sneaky play but I put a hole in his foot by accident and all this gooey stuff came out. It could have been ectoplasm like a haunted presents. I am sure you cut it deliberately to see what was inside. I did." I must admit there was a certin curiosity to see what was magical and stretchy inside | |||
"When at training camp, us trainee airmen doing our trade training had to do duty at the guardroom and do building lock ups at night from time to time. There was one particular building that was the NAAFI and airman's mess, plus recreation rooms. The NAAFI & mess were on the ground floor & the rec rooms upstairs. One night me and my mate were sent to lockdown this building. We secured the ground floor first then went upstairs. The top floor was laid out with a toilet at either end of the corridor and two central rooms with snooker tables and table tennis tables. We went and turned out the first toilets lights, closed the door and went to secure the games rooms. Turned all their lights out, locked the doors and went along to the other toilets, turned out the lights and went down the other stairs. Got outside and locked the door. On looking at the building we saw a light on upstairs, so we went back in and found it to be a toilet light. Turned it off and as we were locking the door we heard something clicking,like snooker balls being played. We went to the games rooms and saw the light on over a billiards table and the balls on the table plus a cue. Strange because when we locked up the billiards table was clear & light off. We cleared the table, turned the light off and left the room, locking the doors after us. We checked the rest of the building including the ground floor just in case we'd missed someone. All was deserted. So we locked the front doors again, and, on looking up we saw the same lights on as before. We radioed to the guardroom and asked for back up before we re-entered the building. When back-up arrived we told the Sergeant i/c what had happened. He said that it sounded like the boys were having a night back. We asked what he meant. He said that it was thought that two aircrew, who had been killed in action in WW11, had spirits that returned every now and again. That particular building had been the Officer's Mess during the war. We said that was a bit far fetched but he said to us that it was known that 2 particular aircrew were keen billiards players and often played together during any 'down-time'. Anyway, the Sgt said to follow him and go back upstairs. Sure enough the scenario was the same - lights on and cue+balls on the table. The Sgt said to leave things as they were and just leave the building and lock up, which we all did. Furtunately our course came to an end before I had to do guardroom duty again!! I have an open mind to these things, as has been said here before, the subject of there being the afterlife and ghost/spirits have neither been proved or disproved. Until such can be done I will remain open minded. " Sewrved in Germany and the camp we were in like many others was used by the German Army, built in the early 1900's.. there was an SS tank Battalion stationed in our particular one, on more than one occasion during my 3 and a half years there were stories of someone hearing marching in the very early hours.. no one had ever seen anything untoward but the guys who reckoned they had heard it were convinced that they had.. | |||
"Over 7 billion people living on planet earth right now….!. Throughout the existence of human-kind a vastly larger number have lived and died and yet there is not a single piece of evidence irrefutably proving the existence of ghosts,, and not only that,,,,,, theres not even one story about ghosts that everyone believes… Oh and where’s all the ghost cats and dogs and sheep and cows,,,,, and where’s all the ghost flies and insects and fish and birds……. Eh! my sister dog passed away and was in the house in sprit! i have felt and heard the dog! my sister got a spiritualist out and he blessed the house and the dog is now resting, not heard the dog since!! Serious question... can I ask, how did you "feel" the dog? the coldness, u would know it was her that was there, she was sit at the top of the stairs where she would when she was alive and u would be warm til u got to the top and know the dog is about! So are you saying,, you had feeling the dog was present ? yes! So if they were your feelings.... does that not mean, they did not come from the dog ?,,,, what do you mean!? we just knew it was the dog, the sounds we heard knew it was her, the feelings we felt we knew it was the dog " I don’t doubt you felt something that your happy to interpret as you have,,,,, But without tangible evidence it can be only explained as an emotional instinct coupled to a desire to believe. | |||
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"Has anyone mentioned infrasound yet? Infrasound is basically anything below 20hz which is the lower limit of human hearing... Usually! You can't usually hear it but you can 'feel' it and it can do freaky things to you. Some scientists played it during a concert and the concertgoers reported feeling dread, intense depression... All kinds of spooky stuff. Also you can get people to see weird stuff by playing a tone at about 18.9hz. Apparently that's the resonant frequency of the jelly inside our eyeballs or something like that and it can cause your eye to vibrate slightly which causes some weird visual distortions. The thing is though, these sounds can be reproduced naturally... They think that's why some buildings get a reputation as being haunted, because something in their construction causes them to put out these freaky tones." So if something that can occur naturally can also be replicated in lab conditions and is given a scientific explanation,,,,, what’s the mystery?,,, | |||
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"i wont say yes there is or not.its the same for is there a god or not.no one prove it " you can't prove the unprovable but then you can't know the unknowable either | |||
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"I'd love to have an unshakeable belief in higher forces..... I'm very envious of people who derive comfort from faith in such things…" Me too. My father has such faith and it has seen him through terrible times but I just can't make that leap. | |||
"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity... I do hope that is sarcasm. If the air suddenley disapeared you would be dead before you tried to take your next breath. The pressure of the air stops your internals boiling and expanding at a rate that paracetamol will not help." No its not sarcasm! Ok tell me because I must be missing something, what does air 'feel' like? What does it 'smell' of? | |||
"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity... Try sticking a fork in a plug socket. I get the feeling you might feel it then. or lightning ? or a van Der graaf generator? you'll see it with both of them" No, all you will feel is the effect electricity has on the skin and body. You can not actually touch electricity. I can feel and touch the blade of a knife but its totally different to what I'd feel if I cut myself on that blade. See the difference? | |||
""Monsters are real, and ghosts are real too. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win" Stephen King " Evidence from a fiction writer? LOL | |||
"I don't believe in ghosts - but I also don't believe science has the answer to everything and I don't think you'll find a credible scientist who would claim that it does - and yet people feel they can state absolute 'facts'. All those 'facts' are just the current way we accept things to be - give it a hundred years and people will laugh at how naive we were now. (I'll know, because I'll be watching..) So, why don't you believe in ghosts?" I don't believe in them in the ghostbusters type sense. I like the possibility that humans may have a lost skill of communication - similar to telepathy - but that through verbal communication it's become weak. Sometimes though, maybe aspects of it still get picked up and these become interpreted as visions/strange occurences etc. etc. My point though is there's a difference between what I believe and stating it as though it's absolute fact. | |||
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"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity... I do hope that is sarcasm. If the air suddenley disapeared you would be dead before you tried to take your next breath. The pressure of the air stops your internals boiling and expanding at a rate that paracetamol will not help. No its not sarcasm! Ok tell me because I must be missing something, what does air 'feel' like? What does it 'smell' of? " as a human my nose isnt that good. im sure your ears have popped before,thats air pressure.THE FEEL OF AIR!!! like i said,go to high altitude,you can feel the difference.ive felt it when i have been high above sea level what part of it dont you understand? if you are trying to compare bullshit like ghosts to air then trot on | |||
""Monsters are real, and ghosts are real too. They live inside us, and sometimes, they win" Stephen King Evidence from a fiction writer? LOL " He's written factual stuff too! I think he meant it as a metaphor for evil inside people. | |||
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"When at training camp, us trainee airmen doing our trade training had to do duty at the guardroom and do building lock ups at night from time to time. There was one particular building that was the NAAFI and airman's mess, plus recreation rooms. The NAAFI & mess were on the ground floor & the rec rooms upstairs. One night me and my mate were sent to lockdown this building. We secured the ground floor first then went upstairs. The top floor was laid out with a toilet at either end of the corridor and two central rooms with snooker tables and table tennis tables. We went and turned out the first toilets lights, closed the door and went to secure the games rooms. Turned all their lights out, locked the doors and went along to the other toilets, turned out the lights and went down the other stairs. Got outside and locked the door. On looking at the building we saw a light on upstairs, so we went back in and found it to be a toilet light. Turned it off and as we were locking the door we heard something clicking,like snooker balls being played. We went to the games rooms and saw the light on over a billiards table and the balls on the table plus a cue. Strange because when we locked up the billiards table was clear & light off. We cleared the table, turned the light off and left the room, locking the doors after us. We checked the rest of the building including the ground floor just in case we'd missed someone. All was deserted. So we locked the front doors again, and, on looking up we saw the same lights on as before. We radioed to the guardroom and asked for back up before we re-entered the building. When back-up arrived we told the Sergeant i/c what had happened. He said that it sounded like the boys were having a night back. We asked what he meant. He said that it was thought that two aircrew, who had been killed in action in WW11, had spirits that returned every now and again. That particular building had been the Officer's Mess during the war. We said that was a bit far fetched but he said to us that it was known that 2 particular aircrew were keen billiards players and often played together during any 'down-time'. Anyway, the Sgt said to follow him and go back upstairs. Sure enough the scenario was the same - lights on and cue+balls on the table. The Sgt said to leave things as they were and just leave the building and lock up, which we all did. Furtunately our course came to an end before I had to do guardroom duty again!! I have an open mind to these things, as has been said here before, the subject of there being the afterlife and ghost/spirits have neither been proved or disproved. Until such can be done I will remain open minded. Sewrved in Germany and the camp we were in like many others was used by the German Army, built in the early 1900's.. there was an SS tank Battalion stationed in our particular one, on more than one occasion during my 3 and a half years there were stories of someone hearing marching in the very early hours.. no one had ever seen anything untoward but the guys who reckoned they had heard it were convinced that they had.." Gatow by any chance? | |||
"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity... I do hope that is sarcasm. If the air suddenley disapeared you would be dead before you tried to take your next breath. The pressure of the air stops your internals boiling and expanding at a rate that paracetamol will not help. No its not sarcasm! Ok tell me because I must be missing something, what does air 'feel' like? What does it 'smell' of? as a human my nose isnt that good. im sure your ears have popped before,thats air pressure.THE FEEL OF AIR!!! like i said,go to high altitude,you can feel the difference.ive felt it when i have been high above sea level what part of it dont you understand? if you are trying to compare bullshit like ghosts to air then trot on " Gosh... you cant grasp what I am saying so you get a little childish, why! Everything you say is correct but that has nothing to do with the actual feel of air. You are describing the affects of altitude and air pressure... not the 'feel' of air. Ok please describe how air feels if you rub it between your fingers, describe what air looks like and how it smells. I am not trying to compare anything with anything else, its just someone said they only believe things they can smell, touch and see. My point is there are things that do exist that as humans we cannot smell, touch or see. Air and electricity are two of them. | |||
"I cant feel air! Also I cant feel see or smell electricity... I do hope that is sarcasm. If the air suddenley disapeared you would be dead before you tried to take your next breath. The pressure of the air stops your internals boiling and expanding at a rate that paracetamol will not help. No its not sarcasm! Ok tell me because I must be missing something, what does air 'feel' like? What does it 'smell' of? as a human my nose isnt that good. im sure your ears have popped before,thats air pressure.THE FEEL OF AIR!!! like i said,go to high altitude,you can feel the difference.ive felt it when i have been high above sea level what part of it dont you understand? if you are trying to compare bullshit like ghosts to air then trot on Gosh... you cant grasp what I am saying so you get a little childish, why! Everything you say is correct but that has nothing to do with the actual feel of air. You are describing the affects of altitude and air pressure... not the 'feel' of air. Ok please describe how air feels if you rub it between your fingers, describe what air looks like and how it smells. I am not trying to compare anything with anything else, its just someone said they only believe things they can smell, touch and see. My point is there are things that do exist that as humans we cannot smell, touch or see. Air and electricity are two of them. " It's the usual arrogance of man!! We think we know everything :-/ the bits that we can't explain don't understand we try to ignore and ridicule!!! | |||
"No such thing as ghosts. No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon." Allegedly! | |||
"No such thing as ghosts. No genuine scientist has produced absolute proof of one - yet we can put a man on the moon. Allegedly!" Not allegedly. The proof is there. | |||
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"Has anyone mentioned infrasound yet? Infrasound is basically anything below 20hz which is the lower limit of human hearing... Usually! You can't usually hear it but you can 'feel' it and it can do freaky things to you. Some scientists played it during a concert and the concertgoers reported feeling dread, intense depression... All kinds of spooky stuff. " Wasn't a Coldplay concert by any chance was it? | |||
"Has anyone mentioned infrasound yet? Infrasound is basically anything below 20hz which is the lower limit of human hearing... Usually! You can't usually hear it but you can 'feel' it and it can do freaky things to you. Some scientists played it during a concert and the concertgoers reported feeling dread, intense depression... All kinds of spooky stuff. Wasn't a Coldplay concert by any chance was it? " Never had one in the house... only a hotel. | |||
" the people who tell their little anecdotal meetings must understand they dont count for anything in regards to evidence. " Whether they count for anything as empirical evidence means nothing to me, my encounters that I haven't been able to explain "rationally" are evidence to me of the existence of ghosts | |||
" the people who tell their little anecdotal meetings must understand they dont count for anything in regards to evidence. Whether they count for anything as empirical evidence means nothing to me, my encounters that I haven't been able to explain "rationally" are evidence to me of the existence of ghosts" well write a paper on it and get it out to all the big names in the subject and go and collect your nobel prize. my daughter believes santa exists also...guess what? | |||
" the people who tell their little anecdotal meetings must understand they dont count for anything in regards to evidence. Whether they count for anything as empirical evidence means nothing to me, my encounters that I haven't been able to explain "rationally" are evidence to me of the existence of ghosts well write a paper on it and get it out to all the big names in the subject and go and collect your nobel prize. my daughter believes santa exists also...guess what?" Ooh, thanks for that idea! You don't seem to like it if anyone has a different opinion to you - can't you just agree to disagree without being disagreeable about it? | |||
" the people who tell their little anecdotal meetings must understand they dont count for anything in regards to evidence. Whether they count for anything as empirical evidence means nothing to me, my encounters that I haven't been able to explain "rationally" are evidence to me of the existence of ghosts well write a paper on it and get it out to all the big names in the subject and go and collect your nobel prize. my daughter believes santa exists also...guess what? Ooh, thanks for that idea! You don't seem to like it if anyone has a different opinion to you - can't you just agree to disagree without being disagreeable about it?" Think everone should take the thread in the 'spirit' which which it is intended | |||