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"His wife has released a statement, he is in hospital.. " Harmed himself? | |||
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"His wife has released a statement, he is in hospital.. Harmed himself?" Stress. Lack of wanking material. | |||
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"Depressed man and made some mistakes. But as the police have said he hasn't commited an offence. Severe lack of judgement from him. Hope he recovers." This.. | |||
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"People are surprised a middle aged man was paying for images from a younger woman? " well mostly because I think people still can’t even grasp that men pay for porn | |||
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"People are surprised a middle aged man was paying for images from a younger woman? well mostly because I think people still can’t even grasp that men pay for porn" Where have people been??!?? | |||
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"Depressed man and made some mistakes. But as the police have said he hasn't commited an offence. Severe lack of judgement from him. Hope he recovers." No offence only in relation to the pics.They are looking at the other allegations now. | |||
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"Interesting his wife outted him!! In anger maybe??? Thrown under the bus? " Released a statement on his behalf | |||
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"His wife has released a statement, he is in hospital.. " He’s old and confused. Probably thought minor injuries would be full of opportunities… | |||
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"It’s all over the huws " | |||
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"Now that's over and done with The Sun can move onto to the Tory MP who's been bailed five times for alleged sexual offences and has been told to stay away from Parliament for the last 15 months? Or maybe not." Or maybe why the Nick Brown allegation hasn't been reported for over 6 months and there's so much secrecy over it. | |||
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"His wife has released a statement, he is in hospital.. He’s old and confused. Probably thought minor injuries would be full of opportunities…" Huw'ed have thought it was him. | |||
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"Depressed man and made some mistakes. But as the police have said he hasn't commited an offence. Severe lack of judgement from him. Hope he recovers." Yep, this. | |||
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"Now that's over and done with The Sun can move onto to the Tory MP who's been bailed five times for alleged sexual offences and has been told to stay away from Parliament for the last 15 months? Or maybe not. Or maybe why the Nick Brown allegation hasn't been reported for over 6 months and there's so much secrecy over it." The fact you used Nick Brown's name shows they've been reported differently. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this " The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl...... | |||
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"Depressed man and made some mistakes. But as the police have said he hasn't commited an offence. Severe lack of judgement from him. Hope he recovers. This.. " correct | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this " Agreed! X | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl......" What is Huw guilty of, exactly? I assume you have some evidence that nobody else does, at present? | |||
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"Now that's over and done with The Sun can move onto to the Tory MP who's been bailed five times for alleged sexual offences and has been told to stay away from Parliament for the last 15 months? Or maybe not." It’s a sign of the times that I don’t know exactly which Tory you’re talking about. Two spring to mind, both Essex MP’s. | |||
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"Now that's over and done with The Sun can move onto to the Tory MP who's been bailed five times for alleged sexual offences and has been told to stay away from Parliament for the last 15 months? Or maybe not. Or maybe why the Nick Brown allegation hasn't been reported for over 6 months and there's so much secrecy over it. The fact you used Nick Brown's name shows they've been reported differently. " The fact that you said 'Tory MP' shows where you're coming from. MP would suffice | |||
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"Tabloid journalists cannot keep getting away with possibly just lying for clicks and to sell papers. It’s unbelievable. " Did The Sun tell lies? | |||
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"Tabloid journalists cannot keep getting away with possibly just lying for clicks and to sell papers. It’s unbelievable. Did The Sun tell lies? " The young guys family told the sun. BBC ignored them and that's why it got to the papers. | |||
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"Depressed man and made some mistakes. But as the police have said he hasn't commited an offence. Severe lack of judgement from him. Hope he recovers. This.. Definitely this.. " | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this " The press just feed the salicious desires of all of us for gossip. You only have to look at the number of people on here who have jumped to conclusions and you can see how the press make their (easy) money. | |||
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"People are surprised a middle aged man was paying for images from a younger woman? well mostly because I think people still can’t even grasp that men pay for porn" My understanding is that it was younger men involved..Another career over. The Sun have questions to answer yet again..I hope it goes the way of News of the world... | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this " totally agree those laughing should hope nobody finds out there on here see what happens then | |||
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"I'm not sure the gender of the young person has been specified. Now the police have confirmed no crime has been committed, feels like a bit of a witch-hunt. G" Think I read male | |||
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"Tabloid journalists cannot keep getting away with possibly just lying for clicks and to sell papers. It’s unbelievable. Did The Sun tell lies? " If not on this story (and I have no idea), but I’d bet my entire bank account that they did on at least one page that day. Par for the course. | |||
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"Tabloid journalists cannot keep getting away with possibly just lying for clicks and to sell papers. It’s unbelievable. Did The Sun tell lies? If not on this story (and I have no idea), but I’d bet my entire bank account that they did on at least one page that day. Par for the course." I'm not betting against you, I thought we were talking specifically about this story. You only have to read the comments to know that plenty want The Sun to be disbanded because they shared some truth (this story) | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl...... What is Huw guilty of, exactly? I assume you have some evidence that nobody else does, at present? " The BBC themselves have confirmed the threatening/intimidating messages aspect.It may turn out that the messages are not technically illegal but you can't surely be claiming it's normal/acceptable.The same applies to the other aspects of the story that,let's not forget involve people young enough to be his kids. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl......" As with The Sun, never let the facts get in the way of a ‘good’ story. If you have facts, share them with the Police, opinions and hearsay keep to yourself. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl...... What is Huw guilty of, exactly? I assume you have some evidence that nobody else does, at present? The BBC themselves have confirmed the threatening/intimidating messages aspect.It may turn out that the messages are not technically illegal but you can't surely be claiming it's normal/acceptable.The same applies to the other aspects of the story that,let's not forget involve people young enough to be his kids." Met police have said that there is no evidence of criminality. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this " | |||
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"And who gives a flying fuck? " See the thread. These people. You too a little bit to have bothered. | |||
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"And who gives a flying fuck? " You obviously because you took time out of your day to post a reply loooooooool | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl...... As with The Sun, never let the facts get in the way of a ‘good’ story. If you have facts, share them with the Police, opinions and hearsay keep to yourself. " Are people not allowed opinions? You'll also see that he asked questions, he didn't offer hearsay | |||
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"And who gives a flying fuck? " Mostly the kind of people that read the sun. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl...... As with The Sun, never let the facts get in the way of a ‘good’ story. If you have facts, share them with the Police, opinions and hearsay keep to yourself. Are people not allowed opinions? You'll also see that he asked questions, he didn't offer hearsay " Asking a ‘loaded’ question is just a weak way of trying to avoid libel. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl...... As with The Sun, never let the facts get in the way of a ‘good’ story. If you have facts, share them with the Police, opinions and hearsay keep to yourself. " Oh dear,not allowed to express opinions,thats every post on here to be deleted then.I have not stated anything that is not a confirmed fact.Myself and a couple of school friends were nearly victims of now jailed semi celeb paedophile Barry Bennell.He was protected by every organisation he was in,by the keep opinions to yourself-its hearsay brigade who he wore like a bullet proof vest.The "oooh you can't say that" and "it's a witch hunt" apologists were his spearhead and rearguard.I won't be taking any patronising condescending ignorant bollocks lectures from anyone when it comes to people abusing their position for predatory purposes with their supporters being nothing more than acomplisses. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl...... As with The Sun, never let the facts get in the way of a ‘good’ story. If you have facts, share them with the Police, opinions and hearsay keep to yourself. Oh dear,not allowed to express opinions,thats every post on here to be deleted then.I have not stated anything that is not a confirmed fact.Myself and a couple of school friends were nearly victims of now jailed semi celeb paedophile Barry Bennell.He was protected by every organisation he was in,by the keep opinions to yourself-its hearsay brigade who he wore like a bullet proof vest.The "oooh you can't say that" and "it's a witch hunt" apologists were his spearhead and rearguard.I won't be taking any patronising condescending ignorant bollocks lectures from anyone when it comes to people abusing their position for predatory purposes with their supporters being nothing more than acomplisses." I’m sorry about your experience. But you cannot tar people with the same brush everytime it reminds you of personal events. Lets agree to differ on our approach here. | |||
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"All reported by the sun "newspaper" that posted topless photos of Sam Fox on her 16th birthday, taken by them when she was 15. " They ran a countdown clock to Charlotte Church’s 16th birthday. I’d like a snoop through the hard drives of everyone who works at the Sun to check on their own particular deviances. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl...... As with The Sun, never let the facts get in the way of a ‘good’ story. If you have facts, share them with the Police, opinions and hearsay keep to yourself. Are people not allowed opinions? You'll also see that he asked questions, he didn't offer hearsay Asking a ‘loaded’ question is just a weak way of trying to avoid libel." Libel Nothing he said was libelous. Besides, it's an Internet forum, enough with those ridiculous claims | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl...... As with The Sun, never let the facts get in the way of a ‘good’ story. If you have facts, share them with the Police, opinions and hearsay keep to yourself. Are people not allowed opinions? You'll also see that he asked questions, he didn't offer hearsay Asking a ‘loaded’ question is just a weak way of trying to avoid libel. Libel Nothing he said was libelous. Besides, it's an Internet forum, enough with those ridiculous claims " My apologies, I meant defamation. Which does apply on social media. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl...... As with The Sun, never let the facts get in the way of a ‘good’ story. If you have facts, share them with the Police, opinions and hearsay keep to yourself. Oh dear,not allowed to express opinions,thats every post on here to be deleted then.I have not stated anything that is not a confirmed fact.Myself and a couple of school friends were nearly victims of now jailed semi celeb paedophile Barry Bennell.He was protected by every organisation he was in,by the keep opinions to yourself-its hearsay brigade who he wore like a bullet proof vest.The "oooh you can't say that" and "it's a witch hunt" apologists were his spearhead and rearguard.I won't be taking any patronising condescending ignorant bollocks lectures from anyone when it comes to people abusing their position for predatory purposes with their supporters being nothing more than acomplisses. I’m sorry about your experience. But you cannot tar people with the same brush everytime it reminds you of personal events. Lets agree to differ on our approach here." Now you are assuming I tar everyone with the same brush. I don't.I see very familiar behaviour which is suspicious and should be investigated straight away not left to fester since mid May.If the BBC and the public have learned anything from Saville,Harris,Hall,Talbot, Glitter,Clifford etc(which it seems they haven't) they would see it too.I haven't defamed anybody either. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this " | |||
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"Huw Edwards is 61. Paid thousands to a 17yo for sexual content. He's helped fuck up that young man's life. And his wife's. Plenty of people with severe depression who don't do that - me included. I'm judging very harshly. " If he'd paid thousands to a 17yr old for sexual content then why are there no charges brought? This story has been iffy from the start, and I've been cynical about a lot of it but I think I will wait for the actual facts before passing judgement. At this point, no criminal charges, really really stupid, illadvised behaviour on his part for sure but no charges so far. Is there more to come? Most likely and there will probably be a few with cause to hang their heads over it all but again, I'll wait. | |||
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"All reported by the sun "newspaper" that posted topless photos of Sam Fox on her 16th birthday, taken by them when she was 15. " In the words of Billy Bragg “ where politics mix with bingo and tits in a strictly money and numbers game, where they offer you a feature on stockings and suspenders next to a call for stiffer sentences for sex offenders” | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this " How did the press destroy these people?The press didn't buy pics for Huw or arrange meets,send abusive /threatening messages.The press didnt arrange Schofield's affair with a young/naive/impressionable lad. | |||
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"Definitely this . He hasn't broke the law but morally it's a bit sick" The sort of behaviour that escalates.The sexual predator chases the same dragon as the Heroin addict.Its a red flag,but because it's a celeb they are left alone.When they cross the line and committ an offence the world cries "how can this happen,why was nothing done to prevent them"etc,The same world that cries "witch hunt,faux outrage,newspaper selling non story" | |||
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"It appears south Wales police had looked into this BEFORE it was raised with BBC or the sun. If true, disgusting from both the parents and the sun. It absolutely sucks that paedphiles have been mentioned in this thread. No such allegations have been made. Ever. And it appears a man has been tarred for (over) paying for porn. I do hope anyone throwing shade has changed their age filters. " Have to agree with you, people on here crying its sick etc yet according to their profile theyd meet 18yr olds. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this The Sun didn't name him.The police have said no offence in relation to the pics only.Schofield a victim? Really? Grooming/abuse of power? Huw buying pics of someone young enough to be his son normal?contacting other youngsters normal?Threatening/intimidating them normal?The ghost of Jimmy Saville is on the prowl......" The sun didn’t name him…. And since the story is now out there because of them , they have profited from it and the police have said he has done nothing illegal the question comes down to this Is the story really is it in the public interest to know…. If the answer is no… then he has every right to sue them for invasion of privacy! | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really." I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this How did the press destroy these people?The press didn't buy pics for Huw or arrange meets,send abusive /threatening messages.The press didnt arrange Schofield's affair with a young/naive/impressionable lad." I'm no fan of the Sun but I agree entirely. And tbh I'm pretty horrified at people thinking it's funny or dismissing it. | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. " So? | |||
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"im really biting my lip about how i feel about this shithouse claiming mental illness because he has been caught, f'''cking scumbag i lost a friend to mental illness and this shithouse has just rubbed his nose in it fu''ing wanker" In all fairness, his mental health problems over the years have been pretty well publicised. | |||
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"im really biting my lip about how i feel about this shithouse claiming mental illness because he has been caught, f'''cking scumbag i lost a friend to mental illness and this shithouse has just rubbed his nose in it fu''ing wanker In all fairness, his mental health problems over the years have been pretty well publicised. " I wasn't aware in staggered to learn that and surprise if that was the case why they paid him the big bucks . | |||
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"im really biting my lip about how i feel about this shithouse claiming mental illness because he has been caught, f'''cking scumbag i lost a friend to mental illness and this shithouse has just rubbed his nose in it fu''ing wanker In all fairness, his mental health problems over the years have been pretty well publicised. I wasn't aware in staggered to learn that and surprise if that was the case why they paid him the big bucks ." Many people with mental health issues can hold down successful jobs | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? " So? Well it makes a massive difference,how was he supposed to know their age if they were selling content on a website where the 'performers' must be over the age of 18. This is why the police won't be investigating him either. | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? " He has led people to believe he is 18 by having an account. How was anyone to know, incl Hew, that he was only 17. | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So? Well it makes a massive difference,how was he supposed to know their age if they were selling content on a website where the 'performers' must be over the age of 18. This is why the police won't be investigating him either." The boy is now 20. It started when he was 17 and I don't believe there's anything stated about the age he was with an OF account? and I didn't realise you had the inside track on police decisions. I don't believe the police have said why they're not charging him that I have seen. | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So? Well it makes a massive difference,how was he supposed to know their age if they were selling content on a website where the 'performers' must be over the age of 18. This is why the police won't be investigating him either. The boy is now 20. It started when he was 17 and I don't believe there's anything stated about the age he was with an OF account? and I didn't realise you had the inside track on police decisions. I don't believe the police have said why they're not charging him that I have seen." Neither do you, calm down | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So? Well it makes a massive difference,how was he supposed to know their age if they were selling content on a website where the 'performers' must be over the age of 18. This is why the police won't be investigating him either. The boy is now 20. It started when he was 17 and I don't believe there's anything stated about the age he was with an OF account? and I didn't realise you had the inside track on police decisions. I don't believe the police have said why they're not charging him that I have seen." They have said there is no evidence of criminal activity | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? " So if that’s true , he’s lied about his age. And I guess that’s why the police have said there’s no criminal offence from that. | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So? Well it makes a massive difference,how was he supposed to know their age if they were selling content on a website where the 'performers' must be over the age of 18. This is why the police won't be investigating him either. The boy is now 20. It started when he was 17 and I don't believe there's anything stated about the age he was with an OF account? and I didn't realise you had the inside track on police decisions. I don't believe the police have said why they're not charging him that I have seen." The point is they are not due to no criminality. When first reported to police in April...."Information was initially received by the force in April 2023 regarding the welfare of an adult. No criminality was identified," the force said. | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So? Well it makes a massive difference,how was he supposed to know their age if they were selling content on a website where the 'performers' must be over the age of 18. This is why the police won't be investigating him either. The boy is now 20. It started when he was 17 and I don't believe there's anything stated about the age he was with an OF account? and I didn't realise you had the inside track on police decisions. I don't believe the police have said why they're not charging him that I have seen. They have said there is no evidence of criminal activity" That wont stop the judge, jury and online executors. | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So? Well it makes a massive difference,how was he supposed to know their age if they were selling content on a website where the 'performers' must be over the age of 18. This is why the police won't be investigating him either. The boy is now 20. It started when he was 17 and I don't believe there's anything stated about the age he was with an OF account? and I didn't realise you had the inside track on police decisions. I don't believe the police have said why they're not charging him that I have seen. They have said there is no evidence of criminal activity That wont stop the judge, jury and online executors." This has always been the case. Lives destroyed to sell papers | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So? Well it makes a massive difference,how was he supposed to know their age if they were selling content on a website where the 'performers' must be over the age of 18. This is why the police won't be investigating him either. The boy is now 20. It started when he was 17 and I don't believe there's anything stated about the age he was with an OF account? and I didn't realise you had the inside track on police decisions. I don't believe the police have said why they're not charging him that I have seen. They have said there is no evidence of criminal activity That wont stop the judge, jury and online executors. This has always been the case. Lives destroyed to sell papers" Exactly | |||
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"I find it bonkers that it's illegal for a 60 year old man to buy photos of an under 18 yo but would have been quite legal for him to have sex with the same person. " I think bonkers is a very polite way of phrasing it. It is beyond ludicrous to me. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this " | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So? Well it makes a massive difference,how was he supposed to know their age if they were selling content on a website where the 'performers' must be over the age of 18. This is why the police won't be investigating him either. The boy is now 20. It started when he was 17 and I don't believe there's anything stated about the age he was with an OF account? and I didn't realise you had the inside track on police decisions. I don't believe the police have said why they're not charging him that I have seen. Neither do you, calm down " I didn't claim to know why a decision was taken. Don't patronise me. | |||
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"Yakey Dar It’s Iechyd da! Or another way of translating it is to spit on someone’s face " A language where you need half a pint of phlegm in your throat just to ask the time? | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So if that’s true , he’s lied about his age. And I guess that’s why the police have said there’s no criminal offence from that. " We don't know why the police decided no charges. | |||
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"Yakey Dar It’s Iechyd da! Or another way of translating it is to spit on someone’s face A language where you need half a pint of phlegm in your throat just to ask the time? " Exactly! It’s thirsty work this Welsh malarkey! | |||
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"People are surprised a middle aged man was paying for images from a younger woman? well mostly because I think people still can’t even grasp that men pay for porn" I am always surprised by this as well | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So if that’s true , he’s lied about his age. And I guess that’s why the police have said there’s no criminal offence from that. We don't know why the police decided no charges. " I’m sure they stated they had received no information to indicate that a criminal offence has occurred; pretty certain that’s a reason not to charge… | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this How did the press destroy these people?The press didn't buy pics for Huw or arrange meets,send abusive /threatening messages.The press didnt arrange Schofield's affair with a young/naive/impressionable lad. I'm no fan of the Sun but I agree entirely. And tbh I'm pretty horrified at people thinking it's funny or dismissing it. " Just remember the Bog roll of a paper had no issue paying a 16 year old Samantha fox money to pose topless! | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this How did the press destroy these people?The press didn't buy pics for Huw or arrange meets,send abusive /threatening messages.The press didnt arrange Schofield's affair with a young/naive/impressionable lad. I'm no fan of the Sun but I agree entirely. And tbh I'm pretty horrified at people thinking it's funny or dismissing it. Just remember the Bog roll of a paper had no issue paying a 16 year old Samantha fox money to pose topless!" Photos were published on her 16th birthday so taken when she was 15. | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So if that’s true , he’s lied about his age. And I guess that’s why the police have said there’s no criminal offence from that. We don't know why the police decided no charges. " To consider charging someone with an offence the police have to apply the full code test. In essence this means they have to believe there is evidence that someone has committed a crime, and that evidence must be sufficient for there to be a realistic prospect of a court convicting on that evidence. IF there is sufficient evidence they must be sure it is in the public interest to prosecute. In this case it is clear the police do not have sufficient evidence to satisfy the first part of this test. Cases of this nature would also be reviewed by the CPS prior to a final charging decision, if there wasxany evidence to review. | |||
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"How the hell is The Sun allowed to do this to people? The police say nothing wrong, so this is just a witch hunt. I feel sorry for Huw, his familly, the other person involved, as well as Philip Schofield as he was also wrongly at the end of a witch hunt. As users of Fab, we ought to be aware that our little niche might be regarded as scandalous by others. It should never be right that the Press can destroy people like this " The BBC nearly destroyed Cliff Richard with the live helicopter footage. So both sides of the media are just as bad as each other. | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really. I read that the 17yo had an OF account and to have that you have to say you’re over 18. So? So if that’s true , he’s lied about his age. And I guess that’s why the police have said there’s no criminal offence from that. We don't know why the police decided no charges. To consider charging someone with an offence the police have to apply the full code test. In essence this means they have to believe there is evidence that someone has committed a crime, and that evidence must be sufficient for there to be a realistic prospect of a court convicting on that evidence. IF there is sufficient evidence they must be sure it is in the public interest to prosecute. In this case it is clear the police do not have sufficient evidence to satisfy the first part of this test. Cases of this nature would also be reviewed by the CPS prior to a final charging decision, if there wasxany evidence to review. " That's a thorough explanation thank you Jennie. | |||
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"I don't believe the police have said why they're not charging him that I have seen." Both South Wales Police and Metropolitan Police have said there's no evidence of any offence. That's why there's no prosecution. Prosecute for what exactly? Very clear! Reading other news reports, they say The Sun has stated they never alleged any criminal offence took place and are now saying that contact was first made when the young person was 17, not that explicit pictures were obtained at this time. Hints, innuendo and smoke screens. This is a story about moral outrage rather than criminality or paedophilia. Gbat | |||
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"I think the person selling the crack is getting off very lightly in all this." Not famous enough for The Sun to waste their efforts on | |||
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"I think the person selling the crack is getting off very lightly in all this." My thoughts exactly | |||
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"Grandson more like . 61 and 17 " Rupert Murdoch was 37 when his third wife was born | |||
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"The sun say they have a “dossier” of information. Job done then. If you have a dossier then he must be guilty of something surely! What more do you need?" The Sun does like a dossier - they went all in with Tony Blair and his dodgy dossier too. That worked out well | |||
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"Are the drugs not a crime?" Yes. But where's the evidence? Both the young person if they possessed them and the person who supplied them would have committed a crime, but how could you prove it a few years later? "Dear police, my son has bought and consumed drugs. There are none left to examine. End of story." Gbat | |||
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"35k of tax payers money went on crack. Man is 61 grooming teens, whether it’s illegal or not it’s highly immoral. Most of us wouldn’t dream of doing something like this. He’s a trash human being and The Sun is a trash paper as we already know " Not directly. Are we now to police how people spend their wages? Who gets decide what's acceptable? Should we be aghast if they shop at Waitrose instead of Aldi? Where do you draw the line? | |||
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"35k of tax payers money went on crack. Man is 61 grooming teens, whether it’s illegal or not it’s highly immoral. Most of us wouldn’t dream of doing something like this. He’s a trash human being and The Sun is a trash paper as we already know Not directly. Are we now to police how people spend their wages? Who gets decide what's acceptable? Should we be aghast if they shop at Waitrose instead of Aldi? Where do you draw the line?" I mean crack is illegal last time I checked | |||
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"Now that's over and done with The Sun can move onto to the Tory MP who's been bailed five times for alleged sexual offences and has been told to stay away from Parliament for the last 15 months? Or maybe not." The scum breaking a story to try to stop us noticing Johnson not handing his phone over? | |||
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"im really biting my lip about how i feel about this shithouse claiming mental illness because he has been caught, f'''cking scumbag i lost a friend to mental illness and this shithouse has just rubbed his nose in it fu''ing wanker" Huw Edwards=Mental health=victim.Slick PR work. You don't pay £35k for photo's.You pay £35k to silence someone. | |||
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"Depressed man and made some mistakes. But as the police have said he hasn't commited an offence. Severe lack of judgement from him. Hope he recovers. This.. " This | |||
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"Not committed a crime, how many on here are squeaky clean? " So that excuses his actions.There we are,all sins forgiven,move on,nothing to see here,forget the four people who have come forward with complaints,they're not celebs,they don't matter. | |||
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"Not committed a crime, how many on here are squeaky clean? So that excuses his actions.There we are,all sins forgiven,move on,nothing to see here,forget the four people who have come forward with complaints,they're not celebs,they don't matter." What are their complaints? Are you privy to them? | |||
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"Not committed a crime, how many on here are squeaky clean? So that excuses his actions.There we are,all sins forgiven,move on,nothing to see here,forget the four people who have come forward with complaints,they're not celebs,they don't matter. What are their complaints? Are you privy to them? " In the case of one individual,threatening and abusive texts.The BBC themselves have confirmed the existence of those messages and announced that publicly.The others relate to Huw trying to organise meets,one a potential lockdown breach,again public information. | |||
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"An anagram of Huw Edwards is Whudd Arse. The clues were there." Umm, no it's not. You've got an unused W. I take crimes against anagrams very seriously. G | |||
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"Not committed a crime, how many on here are squeaky clean? So that excuses his actions.There we are,all sins forgiven,move on,nothing to see here,forget the four people who have come forward with complaints,they're not celebs,they don't matter. What are their complaints? Are you privy to them? In the case of one individual,threatening and abusive texts.The BBC themselves have confirmed the existence of those messages and announced that publicly.The others relate to Huw trying to organise meets,one a potential lockdown breach,again public information." And it wasnt threatening/abusive to taunt someone they were going to out them publicly? | |||
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"Not committed a crime, how many on here are squeaky clean? So that excuses his actions.There we are,all sins forgiven,move on,nothing to see here,forget the four people who have come forward with complaints,they're not celebs,they don't matter. What are their complaints? Are you privy to them? In the case of one individual,threatening and abusive texts.The BBC themselves have confirmed the existence of those messages and announced that publicly.The others relate to Huw trying to organise meets,one a potential lockdown breach,again public information." Ah. I see. You’re right they are public knowledge. Sorry, I thought you had something new to bring to the table after the police said they’ll be taking no further action. | |||
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"No details divulged apart from police have confirmed no crimes have been committed and hes been hung out to dry and now the sun, who broke a story with no substance have dropped it. Good work sun. " No substance? Laughable. | |||
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"An anagram of Huw Edwards is Whudd Arse. The clues were there. Umm, no it's not. You've got an unused W. I take crimes against anagrams very seriously. G" "We'd rush wad" works on a lot of poor taste levels | |||
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"From what i can see no offence has taken place according to police ( at this time anyway) Both parties say no crime was committed and the young person has confirmed that they did not go to the press The family of the younger person went to the press - i wonder why… the Sun says they haven’t paid them. But not that they have not paid a 3rd party who in turn has paid the family. Say a PR company for example? All conjecture on my part there but who does something for nothing in a case like this? The press activity around Caroline Flack was a significant contributory factor that caused her to commit suicide. I think that was the findings and yet still the British press do not have any restrictions around what they can publish it seems. They can splash a huge front page headline saying someone is a paedophile and subsequently retract it on Page 82 next to an advert for pile cream. Sadly that persons career is over and they move on to wreck the next persons life unhindered. They’re a sickening bunch of vultures" | |||
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"No details divulged apart from police have confirmed no crimes have been committed and hes been hung out to dry and now the sun, who broke a story with no substance have dropped it. Good work sun. " I will love to see the “public interest” argument the sun try to use to save themselves from being sued…. Because I am not seeing one! | |||
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"im really biting my lip about how i feel about this shithouse claiming mental illness because he has been caught, f'''cking scumbag i lost a friend to mental illness and this shithouse has just rubbed his nose in it fu''ing wanker Huw Edwards=Mental health=victim.Slick PR work. You don't pay £35k for photo's.You pay £35k to silence someone." Actually huw Edwards has talked about his own mental issues and experiences with depression for years… I can point you in the direction of various interviews and podcasts if you like…. You might want to look at the sun, who are claiming they never made the suggestion of any illegality and blaming other paper and social media of basically putting two and two together and making five! So what are they trying to infer by publishing the story in the first place? The sun hates the bbc… and the presenter became collateral damage to the cause! | |||
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"Not committed a crime, how many on here are squeaky clean? So that excuses his actions.There we are,all sins forgiven,move on,nothing to see here,forget the four people who have come forward with complaints,they're not celebs,they don't matter. What are their complaints? Are you privy to them? In the case of one individual,threatening and abusive texts.The BBC themselves have confirmed the existence of those messages and announced that publicly.The others relate to Huw trying to organise meets,one a potential lockdown breach,again public information. And it wasnt threatening/abusive to taunt someone they were going to out them publicly?" Exactly this. If I sent photos to someone on here and they threatened to forward them to my boss, I reckon my response might be a bit sweary too! | |||
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"35k of tax payers money went on crack. Man is 61 grooming teens, whether it’s illegal or not it’s highly immoral. Most of us wouldn’t dream of doing something like this. He’s a trash human being and The Sun is a trash paper as we already know Not directly. Are we now to police how people spend their wages? Who gets decide what's acceptable? Should we be aghast if they shop at Waitrose instead of Aldi? Where do you draw the line? I mean crack is illegal last time I checked " Did Huw Edwards buy crack? | |||
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"Yakey Dar It’s Iechyd da! Or another way of translating it is to spit on someone’s face " I thought it was ‘good health’ or loosely ‘cheers’ when raising a toast..?! | |||
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"Yakey Dar It’s Iechyd da! Or another way of translating it is to spit on someone’s face A language where you need half a pint of phlegm in your throat just to ask the time? " I know it was meant in a lighthearted way, but it gets wearing hearing that old trope trotted out so often. Amazing language/iaith anhygoel. | |||
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"Tabloid journalists cannot keep getting away with possibly just lying for clicks and to sell papers. It’s unbelievable. " Neither Edwards or his wife in her statement have denied the accusations. So you cannot say the Sun is lying. | |||
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"Not committed a crime, how many on here are squeaky clean? So that excuses his actions.There we are,all sins forgiven,move on,nothing to see here,forget the four people who have come forward with complaints,they're not celebs,they don't matter. What are their complaints? Are you privy to them? In the case of one individual,threatening and abusive texts.The BBC themselves have confirmed the existence of those messages and announced that publicly.The others relate to Huw trying to organise meets,one a potential lockdown breach,again public information." Whilst I view his actions concerning the photos, adusive messages, and attraction to a 17 year old abhorrent, him breaking lockdown rules dosnt bother me what so ever. Trying to nail him for a breach of the draconian lockdown rules is beyond pathetic in my view. NO ONE should have ever been fined for this. | |||
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"Not committed a crime, how many on here are squeaky clean? So that excuses his actions.There we are,all sins forgiven,move on,nothing to see here,forget the four people who have come forward with complaints,they're not celebs,they don't matter. What are their complaints? Are you privy to them? In the case of one individual,threatening and abusive texts.The BBC themselves have confirmed the existence of those messages and announced that publicly.The others relate to Huw trying to organise meets,one a potential lockdown breach,again public information. Whilst I view his actions concerning the photos, adusive messages, and attraction to a 17 year old abhorrent, him breaking lockdown rules dosnt bother me what so ever. Trying to nail him for a breach of the draconian lockdown rules is beyond pathetic in my view. NO ONE should have ever been fined for this. " Some wont be happy till hes topped himself. Dreadful gutter press. Still exactly the same tactics as when they pushed caroline flack over the edge. Breaking lockdown.. Ffs seriously get a grip. | |||
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"Not committed a crime, how many on here are squeaky clean? So that excuses his actions.There we are,all sins forgiven,move on,nothing to see here,forget the four people who have come forward with complaints,they're not celebs,they don't matter. What are their complaints? Are you privy to them? In the case of one individual,threatening and abusive texts.The BBC themselves have confirmed the existence of those messages and announced that publicly.The others relate to Huw trying to organise meets,one a potential lockdown breach,again public information. Whilst I view his actions concerning the photos, adusive messages, and attraction to a 17 year old abhorrent, him breaking lockdown rules dosnt bother me what so ever. Trying to nail him for a breach of the draconian lockdown rules is beyond pathetic in my view. NO ONE should have ever been fined for this. Some wont be happy till hes topped himself. Dreadful gutter press. Still exactly the same tactics as when they pushed caroline flack over the edge. Breaking lockdown.. Ffs seriously get a grip. " | |||
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"Not committed a crime, how many on here are squeaky clean? So that excuses his actions.There we are,all sins forgiven,move on,nothing to see here,forget the four people who have come forward with complaints,they're not celebs,they don't matter. What are their complaints? Are you privy to them? In the case of one individual,threatening and abusive texts.The BBC themselves have confirmed the existence of those messages and announced that publicly.The others relate to Huw trying to organise meets,one a potential lockdown breach,again public information. And it wasnt threatening/abusive to taunt someone they were going to out them publicly? Exactly this. If I sent photos to someone on here and they threatened to forward them to my boss, I reckon my response might be a bit sweary too!" | |||
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"I'm not sure the gender of the young person has been specified. Now the police have confirmed no crime has been committed, feels like a bit of a witch-hunt. G" The young man in question, now 20 years of age, has denied that anything took place. The police have concluded their assessment and said there was no crime. Huw Edwards (61) is in hospital being treated for severe depression and chronic mental issues with his wife and 5 children in support. On the bright side, The Sun sold a lot of news papers and I suspect the young man's parents received a nice wodge of cash for selling out their son's privacy. | |||
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"Approaching a 17 year old online and offering money for explicit photos. Remember, a 17 year old is not an ‘adult’. You cannot approach minors online and bribe them with money for explicit photos. It’s quite straight forward really." Agree, but we don't have all the facts. There are 2 elements to this; the legal and the moral aspects: Did he get photos of the person when they were 17 and act illegally in doing so, or just have contact with them then and get photos later on when the person was older and of legal age? The mother has claimed that the person was 17 at the time, the person has denied this and the Police have said that there is no evidence of criminality. We therefore have to accept that he didn't obtain the photos when the person was 17. If he didn't obtain any photos when the person was 17, but did when the person was of legal age, is there a moral consideration? Maybe, depending on your view. However, how many fellow fabbers would accept photos, for payment or not, from someone who was 18 / 19 / 20? How many fabbers have done a search on here for those in that age range for a bit of wank material, or have their age minimum age filter set at 18? | |||
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