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By *am123Man
over a year ago
essex chelmsford |
he is a nice guy but lets face it if u wer worth 100 million pound, im sure u would do the same. its like the normal guy donating ten pounds a month out his wages its a drop in the ocean to david, having said that it is a very nice thing to do so im not knocking it hes a lovely family bloke and my claim to fame ive met the dude  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"he is a nice guy but lets face it if u wer worth 100 million pound, im sure u would do the same. its like the normal guy donating ten pounds a month out his wages its a drop in the ocean to david, having said that it is a very nice thing to do so im not knocking it hes a lovely family bloke and my claim to fame ive met the dude "
Yet many with that level of wealth don't make those sort of gestures at all. |
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Do we know much of his salary is actual salary and not image rights? Or is he just giving everything he earns from PSG to charity?
If thats the case, then it is a very honourable thing to do - and more footballers should take note. A lot do give a lot to charity and have their own foundations but there are a LOT of mercenaries in the game, just n it for the money.
A split between French and UK charities would have been a better option though I think. |
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By *am123Man
over a year ago
essex chelmsford |
"he is a nice guy but lets face it if u wer worth 100 million pound, im sure u would do the same. its like the normal guy donating ten pounds a month out his wages its a drop in the ocean to david, having said that it is a very nice thing to do so im not knocking it hes a lovely family bloke and my claim to fame ive met the dude
Yet many with that level of wealth don't make those sort of gestures at all."
i agree i never said it wasnt a nice thing to do also alot of the celebs do do things which we never hear about mr cowel is a prime example |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Do we know much of his salary is actual salary and not image rights? Or is he just giving everything he earns from PSG to charity?
If thats the case, then it is a very honourable thing to do - and more footballers should take note. A lot do give a lot to charity and have their own foundations but there are a LOT of mercenaries in the game, just n it for the money.
A split between French and UK charities would have been a better option though I think."
He has the foundation here. I would guess it would be his salary from that team and not any of his other earnings. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Do we know much of his salary is actual salary and not image rights? Or is he just giving everything he earns from PSG to charity?
If thats the case, then it is a very honourable thing to do - and more footballers should take note. A lot do give a lot to charity and have their own foundations but there are a LOT of mercenaries in the game, just n it for the money.
A split between French and UK charities would have been a better option though I think."
It is his salary....  |
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Good on him.
Is that just his wages thats going or his sponsor money too.
Most sports people earn alot more from sponsor than they do in wages.
still no matter what it is its a a very decent thing to do.
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"he is a nice guy but lets face it if u wer worth 100 million pound"
Lots of famous celebrities have a personal fortune far more than £100m, not aware of anyone famous making large donations from their personal wealth  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"he is a nice guy but lets face it if u wer worth 100 million pound, im sure u would do the same. its like the normal guy donating ten pounds a month out his wages its a drop in the ocean to david, having said that it is a very nice thing to do so im not knocking it hes a lovely family bloke and my claim to fame ive met the dude
Yet many with that level of wealth don't make those sort of gestures at all. i agree i never said it wasnt a nice thing to do also alot of the celebs do do things which we never hear about mr cowel is a prime example"
Mr Cowel is very, very generous but you do hear about it if you know where to place your ears. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"he is a nice guy but lets face it if u wer worth 100 million pound
Lots of famous celebrities have a personal fortune far more than £100m, not aware of anyone famous making large donations from their personal wealth "
Most people have the decency just to do it and not insist that it's plastered across the papers. |
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By *am123Man
over a year ago
essex chelmsford |
"he is a nice guy but lets face it if u wer worth 100 million pound, im sure u would do the same. its like the normal guy donating ten pounds a month out his wages its a drop in the ocean to david, having said that it is a very nice thing to do so im not knocking it hes a lovely family bloke and my claim to fame ive met the dude
Yet many with that level of wealth don't make those sort of gestures at all. i agree i never said it wasnt a nice thing to do also alot of the celebs do do things which we never hear about mr cowel is a prime example
Mr Cowel is very, very generous but you do hear about it if you know where to place your ears."
was just using him as an example |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
""Yet many with that level of wealth don't make those sort of gestures at all"
Not that you or I know of anyhow. Charity is by definition secret. So what Becks is munificent but charity it ain't. "
He'd only have ended up with 25% less his agent's take anyway so it's probably no great sacrifice. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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""Yet many with that level of wealth don't make those sort of gestures at all"
Not that you or I know of anyhow. Charity is by definition secret. So what Becks is munificent but charity it ain't.
He'd only have ended up with 25% less his agent's take anyway so it's probably no great sacrifice."
.....i'm sure he's not seeing it as a great sacrifice either.....so you see it as a bad thing then? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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""Yet many with that level of wealth don't make those sort of gestures at all"
Not that you or I know of anyhow. Charity is by definition secret. So what Becks is munificent but charity it ain't. "
Charity, by definition, is not secret. Many give without asking for thanks but there is a lot of evidence now that those that give publicly encourage other rich people to give. Please don't assume to know what I might know or not. I rarely post a comment that I am unsure of. |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
""Yet many with that level of wealth don't make those sort of gestures at all"
Not that you or I know of anyhow. Charity is by definition secret. So what Becks is munificent but charity it ain't.
He'd only have ended up with 25% less his agent's take anyway so it's probably no great sacrifice.
.....i'm sure he's not seeing it as a great sacrifice either.....so you see it as a bad thing then? "
I couldn't give a **** about it either way but
1) I'd rather he'd just done it quietly and without the fanfare and
2) I'm not sure a Parisian charity is the most appropriate recipient. Isn't there a worthwhile cause in/ near his birthplace? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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2) I'm not sure a Parisian charity is the most appropriate recipient. Isn't there a worthwhile cause in/ near his birthplace?"
...this maybe due to the fact that Paris Saint Germain...who will be his employers are based in Paris. |
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By *am123Man
over a year ago
essex chelmsford |
""Yet many with that level of wealth don't make those sort of gestures at all"
Not that you or I know of anyhow. Charity is by definition secret. So what Becks is munificent but charity it ain't.
He'd only have ended up with 25% less his agent's take anyway so it's probably no great sacrifice.
.....i'm sure he's not seeing it as a great sacrifice either.....so you see it as a bad thing then?
I couldn't give a **** about it either way but
1) I'd rather he'd just done it quietly and without the fanfare and
2) I'm not sure a Parisian charity is the most appropriate recipient. Isn't there a worthwhile cause in/ near his birthplace?"
im not sure why u would donate to a french charity either, maybe to get the terraces shouting his name? it is slightly strange not to give to uk charity, altho he does alot all over the world for diff charitys so not sure realy on tht one .  |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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I couldn't give a **** about it either way but
1) I'd rather he'd just done it quietly and without the fanfare and
2) I'm not sure a Parisian charity is the most appropriate recipient. Isn't there a worthwhile cause in/ near his birthplace?"
Re: 1) see my point on philanthropy above.
Re: 2) why not? There is a huge amount of need in Paris just as there is here. He commits to a location whenever he moves jobs, it's smart and it is generous. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"He's going to be playing his football in France, being paid by a French club...why is it therefore strange that he's donating his salary to a French charity?
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"why do people like to just argue and disagree with each other on here, for the sake of arguing lovely bloke great thing to do as most people have said. end of thread ffs  "
It's Thursday. I'm exercising my Fab Forum right to be cantankerous today. |
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Charity, by exact & pure definition, is absolutely secret. There is a no evidence whatsoever that those that give publicly encourage other rich or poor people to give. We just do not know nor can we know what people do in secret with their money. |
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By *am123Man
over a year ago
essex chelmsford |
"why do people like to just argue and disagree with each other on here, for the sake of arguing lovely bloke great thing to do as most people have said. end of thread ffs
It's Thursday. I'm exercising my Fab Forum right to be cantankerous today."
you are definitely that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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People need to take into account the way
footballers are paid. Some take a lower
salary in exchange for a payment for image
rights,often this money is paid into an
account in a tax haven. 10/12 year ago a
footballer was quoted as saying during
contract talks " the salary is fine,its the
image rights that need tweaking" The
player? David Beckham |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"People need to take into account the way
footballers are paid. Some take a lower
salary in exchange for a payment for image
rights,often this money is paid into an
account in a tax haven. 10/12 year ago a
footballer was quoted as saying during
contract talks " the salary is fine,its the
image rights that need tweaking" The
player? David Beckham"
....is this the same David Beckham who is giving his salary to a childens charity in Paris????? |
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By *am123Man
over a year ago
essex chelmsford |
"People need to take into account the way
footballers are paid. Some take a lower
salary in exchange for a payment for image
rights,often this money is paid into an
account in a tax haven. 10/12 year ago a
footballer was quoted as saying during
contract talks " the salary is fine,its the
image rights that need tweaking" The
player? David Beckham
....is this the same David Beckham who is giving his salary to a childens charity in Paris????? "
noooooooooo cant be saint beckham  |
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By *am123Man
over a year ago
essex chelmsford |
"People need to take into account the way
footballers are paid. Some take a lower
salary in exchange for a payment for image
rights,often this money is paid into an
account in a tax haven. 10/12 year ago a
footballer was quoted as saying during
contract talks " the salary is fine,its the
image rights that need tweaking" The
player? David Beckham
....is this the same David Beckham who is giving his salary to a childens charity in Paris????? "
noooooooooo cant be saint beckham |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People need to take into account the way
footballers are paid. Some take a lower
salary in exchange for a payment for image
rights,often this money is paid into an
account in a tax haven. 10/12 year ago a
footballer was quoted as saying during
contract talks " the salary is fine,its the
image rights that need tweaking" The
player? David Beckham
....is this the same David Beckham who is giving his salary to a childens charity in Paris????? "
yes. so the question is that is the salary compared to the image right. they're gonna sell a lot of shirts |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People need to take into account the way
footballers are paid. Some take a lower
salary in exchange for a payment for image
rights,often this money is paid into an
account in a tax haven. 10/12 year ago a
footballer was quoted as saying during
contract talks " the salary is fine,its the
image rights that need tweaking" The
player? David Beckham"
How do you know he didnt want them tweaking so he could donate more to charity? |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Charity, by exact & pure definition, is absolutely secret. There is a no evidence whatsoever that those that give publicly encourage other rich or poor people to give. We just do not know nor can we know what people do in secret with their money."
The definition has nothing to do with secrecy. The word comes from the Latin caritas. At it's purest definition you get to caring.
I agree that we can't know what people do in secret with their money. There are people who help the wealthy give that money away and they know. There are very few completely secret transactions, especially now when charities have to look at the provenance of donations to ensure it is not dirty money.
As to the evidence base the easiest read is Charles Handy's The New Philanthropists. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"why do people like to just argue and disagree with each other on here, for the sake of arguing lovely bloke great thing to do as most people have said. end of thread ffs
It's Thursday. I'm exercising my Fab Forum right to be cantankerous today. you are definitely that "
Thank you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"People need to take into account the way
footballers are paid. Some take a lower
salary in exchange for a payment for image
rights,often this money is paid into an
account in a tax haven. 10/12 year ago a
footballer was quoted as saying during
contract talks " the salary is fine,its the
image rights that need tweaking" The
player? David Beckham
How do you know he didnt want them tweaking so he could donate more to charity?"
Well he left Man U shortly after. I doubt he left because his charitable intentions were being hampered |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think its a nice gesture to,but you can't come into the forums and expect everyone to think so too
He did'nt have to do it but he has and if children are benefitting than thats all that matters to me
Could'nt really give a monkeys about his image I just think hes always come across as a decent guy |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"How do you know he didnt want them tweaking so he could donate more to charity?
Well he left Man U shortly after. I doubt he left because his charitable intentions were being hampered"
He is a savvy business-man. I don't doubt for a minute that he has calculated that this gesture is worth more than keeping the salary in all sorts of ways. The fact is that he has made a generous gesture. I know of charities he has supported in this country and he has been generous with his time as well as money. The publicity he brings to those charities is sometimes worth more to them than any cash he might give.
Tim Minchin is doing a gig for Shelter next month, there will be publicity about it and Shelter will use his name to fill the venue. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Jeez, if he didnt give anything to charity I could understand people moaning. Damned if you do, damned if you don't!
Sadly that is case in the cynical world we live in."
Fact is david Beckham has given more to charity than any of us ever will in our entire lives, and it's unbelievable people are slating him for it.
Beckham has always been fantastic at promoting himself and his image and sure this is all part of that but it is still a huge amount of money and should be applauded |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Jeez, if he didnt give anything to charity I could understand people moaning. Damned if you do, damned if you don't!
Sadly that is case in the cynical world we live in.
Fact is david Beckham has given more to charity than any of us ever will in our entire lives, and it's unbelievable people are slating him for it.
Beckham has always been fantastic at promoting himself and his image and sure this is all part of that but it is still a huge amount of money and should be applauded"
I agree. I do applaud him for it and think he has done exactly the right thing to pick a charity local to where he is earning the money - it has more meaning, lower transaction costs and gives him a stake in his new community. |
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By *Ryan-Man
over a year ago
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"Jeez, if he didnt give anything to charity I could understand people moaning. Damned if you do, damned if you don't!
Sadly that is case in the cynical world we live in.
Fact is david Beckham has given more to charity than any of us ever will in our entire lives, and it's unbelievable people are slating him for it.
Beckham has always been fantastic at promoting himself and his image and sure this is all part of that but it is still a huge amount of money and should be applauded"
anyone who donates should be applauded regardless of their income. Fair play to the bloke. |
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Cant believe anyone would critisize his generosity.
Perhaps others will follow his lead, charity could do with the backing of some big names.
Well done David just wish i could thank you personally cough cough ....  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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His knighthood has been long assured so it's not just a gesture he's making. He has been involved in youth football for some time and now he's expanding his sphere of influence to help wherever he can. Have you noticed how he can arrive at any club and simply request to train with them and they never turn him down. He crosses clubs borders as well as international ones.
And he was once thought of as stupid. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Jeez, if he didnt give anything to charity I could understand people moaning. Damned if you do, damned if you don't!
Sadly that is case in the cynical world we live in.
Fact is david Beckham has given more to charity than any of us ever will in our entire lives, and it's unbelievable people are slating him for it.
Beckham has always been fantastic at promoting himself and his image and sure this is all part of that but it is still a huge amount of money and should be applauded"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Well done David, shows his love for the game IMO. It's a lot better than band aid that everyone bangs on about which was responisible for the deaths of around 100,000 Africans! |
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By *U1966Man
over a year ago
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Donating his wages which he would of had to paid 60% tax on in france
but he will still pocket the money on merchandising and image rights
The charity concerned will be very gratefull though i am sure its a good cause and a nice gesture |
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Having read this thread I have an image in my head of some Joe Bloggs buying a drink in a pub and telling the landlord to put the small change in a charity tub...... only for a bunch of folk to pop up from behind the bar and start moaning "How much do you earn?" ... "It's not charity if you tell people you're doing it"... "I bet that's not the only change you've got"... "What about the other charities you tight bastard"......... |
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over a year ago
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"Having read this thread I have an image in my head of some Joe Bloggs buying a drink in a pub and telling the landlord to put the small change in a charity tub...... only for a bunch of folk to pop up from behind the bar and start moaning "How much do you earn?" ... "It's not charity if you tell people you're doing it"... "I bet that's not the only change you've got"... "What about the other charities you tight bastard"......... "
Yeah and I bet he won't be as half as good looking as David Beckham |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Waiting for those that put him down to tell how much of their salary they giving to children in need..........
Guy aint my best mate, but you gotta give him 100% credit for it. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"Having read this thread I have an image in my head of some Joe Bloggs buying a drink in a pub and telling the landlord to put the small change in a charity tub...... only for a bunch of folk to pop up from behind the bar and start moaning "How much do you earn?" ... "It's not charity if you tell people you're doing it"... "I bet that's not the only change you've got"... "What about the other charities you tight bastard"......... "
Thank you! |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Well Becks has signed for Paris Saint Germain and stated that his salary is all going to a local childrens charity in Paris.......what a nice bloke.
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I am sure mr hollande just put up the tax rate to 75% ish for top earners... he wouldn't have come out with much if he had kept it anyway....
very smart PR move though....... |
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"Waiting for those that put him down to tell how much of their salary they giving to children in need..........
Guy aint my best mate, but you gotta give him 100% credit for it."
I give at least £10 to Children in Need every year, and with most of my salary paying my bills and my small amount of savings nowhere near what I owe to the bank, I don't feel the need to go on world tv and announce it.
The fact that Beckham has chosen to do it on deadline day as a free agent (which means he could have signed tomorrow, next week or whenever) suggests it's as much about PR for his post football career than anything else.
The money going to a local charity is great though, so fair play, but don't treat us as fools. Especially as the salary will be paid to a plc Beckham owns and will be tax deductible.
This year I will be doubling my donation to Children in Need and going on BBC to announce it, possibly with Terry Wogan & Gaby Roslin at my side.  |
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