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By *ruceyyMan
over a year ago
London |
"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?"
Actually there's a movement going round saying all women are narcissistic these days and it's happening unconsciously through the medium of social media; getting all the likes, knowing there's all the options etc. Being in charge of the dating pool which is still relatively 'new' given many generations of men being in charge.
Thing is women usually only see narcissistic men still cause the nice guys are all settled down by the time they're in the late 20s usually meaning dating for women 29+ is usually a nightmare.
We live in an interesting time that's for sure! |
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By *ruceyyMan
over a year ago
London |
"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?
Actually there's a movement going round saying all women are narcissistic these days and it's happening unconsciously through the medium of social media; getting all the likes, knowing there's all the options etc. Being in charge of the dating pool which is still relatively 'new' given many generations of men being in charge.
Thing is women usually only see narcissistic men still cause the nice guys are all settled down by the time they're in the late 20s usually meaning dating for women 29+ is usually a nightmare.
We live in an interesting time that's for sure!"
Oh and before all the hate comes I can already smell it...
No I don't agree with it but it is an interesting theory. Yes theres no doubt the dating scene is fucked. And no, not all women/men.
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By *ML49 OP Man
over a year ago
Burnley |
"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?
Actually there's a movement going round saying all women are narcissistic these days and it's happening unconsciously through the medium of social media; getting all the likes, knowing there's all the options etc. Being in charge of the dating pool which is still relatively 'new' given many generations of men being in charge.
Thing is women usually only see narcissistic men still cause the nice guys are all settled down by the time they're in the late 20s usually meaning dating for women 29+ is usually a nightmare.
We live in an interesting time that's for sure!"
Not sure about a movement but isn't it A Mental Health issue? |
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"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?
Actually there's a movement going round saying all women are narcissistic these days and it's happening unconsciously through the medium of social media; getting all the likes, knowing there's all the options etc. Being in charge of the dating pool which is still relatively 'new' given many generations of men being in charge.
Thing is women usually only see narcissistic men still cause the nice guys are all settled down by the time they're in the late 20s usually meaning dating for women 29+ is usually a nightmare.
We live in an interesting time that's for sure!
Oh and before all the hate comes I can already smell it...
No I don't agree with it but it is an interesting theory. Yes theres no doubt the dating scene is fucked. And no, not all women/men.
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Important addition, Brucey. Was coming over a little incel-y! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't think it's a sex thing, narcissistic behaviour is gender neutral. Lack of empathy is the most dangerous narcissistic trait anyone can have and its becoming more common these days. |
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By *aizyWoman
over a year ago
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"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?
Actually there's a movement going round saying all women are narcissistic these days and it's happening unconsciously through the medium of social media; getting all the likes, knowing there's all the options etc. Being in charge of the dating pool which is still relatively 'new' given many generations of men being in charge.
Thing is women usually only see narcissistic men still cause the nice guys are all settled down by the time they're in the late 20s usually meaning dating for women 29+ is usually a nightmare.
We live in an interesting time that's for sure!
Oh and before all the hate comes I can already smell it...
No I don't agree with it but it is an interesting theory. Yes theres no doubt the dating scene is fucked. And no, not all women/men.
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The smell is the rotten tomatoes I was getting ready to throw at you Brucey. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?
Actually there's a movement going round saying all women are narcissistic these days and it's happening unconsciously through the medium of social media; getting all the likes, knowing there's all the options etc. Being in charge of the dating pool which is still relatively 'new' given many generations of men being in charge.
Thing is women usually only see narcissistic men still cause the nice guys are all settled down by the time they're in the late 20s usually meaning dating for women 29+ is usually a nightmare.
We live in an interesting time that's for sure!
Oh and before all the hate comes I can already smell it...
No I don't agree with it but it is an interesting theory. Yes theres no doubt the dating scene is fucked. And no, not all women/men.
The smell is the rotten tomatoes I was getting ready to throw at you Brucey."
I was wondering who would turn up first |
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By *ML49 OP Man
over a year ago
Burnley |
"I don't think it's a sex thing, narcissistic behaviour is gender neutral. Lack of empathy is the most dangerous narcissistic trait anyone can have and its becoming more common these days."
Have you personally experienced it? |
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By *ruceyyMan
over a year ago
London |
"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?
Actually there's a movement going round saying all women are narcissistic these days and it's happening unconsciously through the medium of social media; getting all the likes, knowing there's all the options etc. Being in charge of the dating pool which is still relatively 'new' given many generations of men being in charge.
Thing is women usually only see narcissistic men still cause the nice guys are all settled down by the time they're in the late 20s usually meaning dating for women 29+ is usually a nightmare.
We live in an interesting time that's for sure!
Not sure about a movement but isn't it A Mental Health issue?"
It is but it's very common for people to say they dated a narcissist without that person actually being a narcissist - they were just a prick
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By *ruceyyMan
over a year ago
London |
"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?
Actually there's a movement going round saying all women are narcissistic these days and it's happening unconsciously through the medium of social media; getting all the likes, knowing there's all the options etc. Being in charge of the dating pool which is still relatively 'new' given many generations of men being in charge.
Thing is women usually only see narcissistic men still cause the nice guys are all settled down by the time they're in the late 20s usually meaning dating for women 29+ is usually a nightmare.
We live in an interesting time that's for sure!
Oh and before all the hate comes I can already smell it...
No I don't agree with it but it is an interesting theory. Yes theres no doubt the dating scene is fucked. And no, not all women/men.
The smell is the rotten tomatoes I was getting ready to throw at you Brucey."
Not something a woman would ever had the cheek to suggest in the good ol days!
(A JOKE AGAIN PUT THEM DOWN!) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't think it's a sex thing, narcissistic behaviour is gender neutral. Lack of empathy is the most dangerous narcissistic trait anyone can have and its becoming more common these days.
Have you personally experienced it?"
Yes I was raised by one, the most toxic people on earth. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?
Actually there's a movement going round saying all women are narcissistic these days and it's happening unconsciously through the medium of social media; getting all the likes, knowing there's all the options etc. Being in charge of the dating pool which is still relatively 'new' given many generations of men being in charge.
Thing is women usually only see narcissistic men still cause the nice guys are all settled down by the time they're in the late 20s usually meaning dating for women 29+ is usually a nightmare.
We live in an interesting time that's for sure!
Not sure about a movement but isn't it A Mental Health issue?
It is but it's very common for people to say they dated a narcissist without that person actually being a narcissist - they were just a prick
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Majority of the time it is definitely an arm chair diagnosis way off the mark and fuel by negative emotions towards said person, for being a prick for sure. It is now an easy umbrella buzzword that people have learned.
All genders! But certainly more commonly thrown around by women about their ex. |
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By *ML49 OP Man
over a year ago
Burnley |
"I don't think it's a sex thing, narcissistic behaviour is gender neutral. Lack of empathy is the most dangerous narcissistic trait anyone can have and its becoming more common these days.
Have you personally experienced it?
Yes I was raised by one, the most toxic people on earth."
What about dating one? I'm looking for posts from people who have dated a female narcissist |
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Narcissist seems to be the mot du jour. I doubt many of the people accused of being narcissistic have been diagnosed. I don't really know what the traits are because I'm not interested in reading proper scientific articles on the subject and I am deeply sceptical of YouTube and tik Tok diagnoses. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"Narcissist seems to be the mot du jour. I doubt many of the people accused of being narcissistic have been diagnosed. I don't really know what the traits are because I'm not interested in reading proper scientific articles on the subject and I am deeply sceptical of YouTube and tik Tok diagnoses. "
I don't doubt we're in an age of the self obsession but yes it's a current thing.
According to wiki, you have to score above 5 of the 9
A grandiose sense of self-importance
Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
Believing that they are "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
Requiring excessive admiration
A sense of entitlement (unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with their expectations)
Being interpersonally exploitative (taking advantage of others to achieve their own ends)
Lacking empathy (unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others)
Often being envious of others or believing that others are envious of them
Showing arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
I think we have all met people with some of the above traits. But having some of the traits doesn't mean you have the disorder |
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"I don't think it's a sex thing, narcissistic behaviour is gender neutral. Lack of empathy is the most dangerous narcissistic trait anyone can have and it’s becoming more common these days."
This was my initial thought upon reading the thread title and the OP.
I don’t think the behaviour is gender specific. I think that manipulation and gaslighting happens across both genders, and often in many of the same forms  |
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"I don't think it's a sex thing, narcissistic behaviour is gender neutral. Lack of empathy is the most dangerous narcissistic trait anyone can have and its becoming more common these days.
Have you personally experienced it?
Yes I was raised by one, the most toxic people on earth.
What about dating one? I'm looking for posts from people who have dated a female narcissist "
I'd like to know why? Context is important when you're being asked to throw someone under a bus based on your opinion. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"People can be narcissistic without having Narcisstic Personality Disorder. Narcissism is being vain, self absorbed and not caring for others. "
Hence it now being an umbrella term and armchair diagnosis. Some people have greatly suffered and wen victims of another person with these traits that are associated with but do not define it. While others may show something slightly resembling a hint of it, and bang instant label as a narcissist.
If we go by linking up a few traits, I dare say that a good few people would have, the mirror turned to have themselves pointing back. |
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"People can be narcissistic without having Narcisstic Personality Disorder. Narcissism is being vain, self absorbed and not caring for others.
Hence it now being an umbrella term and armchair diagnosis. Some people have greatly suffered and wen victims of another person with these traits that are associated with but do not define it. While others may show something slightly resembling a hint of it, and bang instant label as a narcissist.
If we go by linking up a few traits, I dare say that a good few people would have, the mirror turned to have themselves pointing back. "
Generally I think a lack of an ability to empathise is the main characteristic most would identify as narcissistic. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?
Actually there's a movement going round saying all women are narcissistic these days and it's happening unconsciously through the medium of social media; getting all the likes, knowing there's all the options etc. Being in charge of the dating pool which is still relatively 'new' given many generations of men being in charge.
Thing is women usually only see narcissistic men still cause the nice guys are all settled down by the time they're in the late 20s usually meaning dating for women 29+ is usually a nightmare.
We live in an interesting time that's for sure!"
I don't necessarily agree or disagree but I do think it's to do with the rise of social media, although I don't think it's gender specific |
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By *ruceyyMan
over a year ago
London |
Basically look out for people on here that only respond to the popular ones, never show any compassion or empathy, have an air of believing they are the best and can't take the piss out of themselves and you've got yourself someone that is probably narcissistic |
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By *ruceyyMan
over a year ago
London |
"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?
Actually there's a movement going round saying all women are narcissistic these days and it's happening unconsciously through the medium of social media; getting all the likes, knowing there's all the options etc. Being in charge of the dating pool which is still relatively 'new' given many generations of men being in charge.
Thing is women usually only see narcissistic men still cause the nice guys are all settled down by the time they're in the late 20s usually meaning dating for women 29+ is usually a nightmare.
We live in an interesting time that's for sure!
I don't necessarily agree or disagree but I do think it's to do with the rise of social media, although I don't think it's gender specific "
It's not gender specific at all, he was referencing women in OP and that theory is one about narcissism in women. It's alot more common for women to say they have dated narcissists then men to say that |
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"I don't think it's a sex thing, narcissistic behaviour is gender neutral. Lack of empathy is the most dangerous narcissistic trait anyone can have and its becoming more common these days.
Have you personally experienced it?
Yes I was raised by one, the most toxic people on earth.
What about dating one? I'm looking for posts from people who have dated a female narcissist "
I don’t think you can really separate the two. Again, I think the behaviours, traits and outcomes have the same impact. If anything it’s worse if it’s family and especially family that raised you to think that was the norm |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
Liverpool |
"People can be narcissistic without having Narcisstic Personality Disorder. Narcissism is being vain, self absorbed and not caring for others.
Hence it now being an umbrella term and armchair diagnosis. Some people have greatly suffered and wen victims of another person with these traits that are associated with but do not define it. While others may show something slightly resembling a hint of it, and bang instant label as a narcissist.
If we go by linking up a few traits, I dare say that a good few people would have, the mirror turned to have themselves pointing back.
Generally I think a lack of an ability to empathise is the main characteristic most would identify as narcissistic."
Except not everyone can empathise with everything. Or do it on different levels.
I show far more empathy for animals than I do most people.
I have empathy for people, but it's limited, often times people that don't know me don't see it. Some may assume I'm narcissistic, quite easily. However my mind works extremely different to a large majority of people that they can't grasp. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Basically look out for people on here that only respond to the popular ones, never show any compassion or empathy, have an air of believing they are the best and can't take the piss out of themselves and you've got yourself someone that is probably narcissistic "
I was worried then until I read the last bit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?"
I'm guessing you're asking as maybe you want other people's experiences so that you can possibly compare them with something you're experiencing and not quite sure of?
If that's the case I would recommend looking up websites that explain narcissistic personality disorder. Abuse, toxic behaviour and narcissistic personality disorder can be very different things though they can overlap.
NPD is quite specific. Abuse doesn't mean they are narcissistic either. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's the 'popular' insult just now. Truth is, very few will have known a person with NPD.
Theres a belief that the way people present now is due to the move away from the collective good and looking after/feeling a responsibility for the wellbeing of others and towards a more insular- me, me, me attitude. This began decades ago and while social media plays right into it i think the rot set in way before. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"Basically look out for people on here that only respond to the popular ones, never show any compassion or empathy, have an air of believing they are the best and can't take the piss out of themselves and you've got yourself someone that is probably narcissistic
I was worried then until I read the last bit. "
Relax, its not binary. it doesn't mean you don't have a trait or three |
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"Narcissist seems to be the mot du jour. I doubt many of the people accused of being narcissistic have been diagnosed. I don't really know what the traits are because I'm not interested in reading proper scientific articles on the subject and I am deeply sceptical of YouTube and tik Tok diagnoses.
I don't doubt we're in an age of the self obsession but yes it's a current thing.
According to wiki, you have to score above 5 of the 9
A grandiose sense of self-importance
Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
Believing that they are "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
Requiring excessive admiration
A sense of entitlement (unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with their expectations)
Being interpersonally exploitative (taking advantage of others to achieve their own ends)
Lacking empathy (unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others)
Often being envious of others or believing that others are envious of them
Showing arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
I think we have all met people with some of the above traits. But having some of the traits doesn't mean you have the disorder"
Ok thank you for that. I can think of a couple of public figures who have all those traits and plenty who exhibit one of two of them |
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By *ML49 OP Man
over a year ago
Burnley |
"Has anybody every had a relationship with a female who had narcissist traits and what were her traits?
I'm guessing you're asking as maybe you want other people's experiences so that you can possibly compare them with something you're experiencing and not quite sure of?
If that's the case I would recommend looking up websites that explain narcissistic personality disorder. Abuse, toxic behaviour and narcissistic personality disorder can be very different things though they can overlap.
NPD is quite specific. Abuse doesn't mean they are narcissistic either."
I have experienced something and a chat to someone days ago roused my suspicion that this lady had the traits of a possible narcissist. She did tell me she had in the past had anxiety but not anymore. Then the conversation about narcissists came up which made me think long and hard about what is really happening to the said person. When I googled the traits I was surprised how correct some of it was. Reading about it definitely gave me some closure to what happened to me during the time I was with this lady. |
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Some of my ex’s actions;
- “it’s not my fault, it’s your fault”
- “why are you talking to her”
- “if you leave, I’ll kill myself”
- “Not my fault you’re fat and no one else will love you”
Not to mention attack me over performance anxiety & grind my mental state down. |
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"I don't think it's a sex thing, narcissistic behaviour is gender neutral. Lack of empathy is the most dangerous narcissistic trait anyone can have and its becoming more common these days.
Have you personally experienced it?
Yes I was raised by one, the most toxic people on earth."
Same. My mother is one. Not recommended. |
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By *ML49 OP Man
over a year ago
Burnley |
"Some of my ex’s actions;
- “it’s not my fault, it’s your fault”
- “why are you talking to her”
- “if you leave, I’ll kill myself”
- “Not my fault you’re fat and no one else will love you”
Not to mention attack me over performance anxiety & grind my mental state down. "
Jeez you had it bad. Over how long of a period did all that happen? |
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"Some of my ex’s actions;
- “it’s not my fault, it’s your fault”
- “why are you talking to her”
- “if you leave, I’ll kill myself”
- “Not my fault you’re fat and no one else will love you”
Not to mention attack me over performance anxiety & grind my mental state down.
Jeez you had it bad. Over how long of a period did all that happen? "
From start to finish, the 18 months. Everyone tells you to just get out of that relationship, but no one tells you just how hard it is to change your mindset after being ground down. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In my experience, anyone saying "my ex was a narcissistic" is failing to look at their own contribution to what went wrong.
Also, very few people are qualified to diagnose Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which is a serious mental health disorder and not necessarily something evil. |
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"In my experience, anyone saying "my ex was a narcissistic" is failing to look at their own contribution to what went wrong.
Also, very few people are qualified to diagnose Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which is a serious mental health disorder and not necessarily something evil."
Ah yes, because people can’t just be abusive or display narcissistic behaviours without someone else’s actions.  |
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"This is a great training ground to practice dealing with such women. 
As it is for dealing with self entitled, misogynistic and incel-like men, fairly often.
Touched a nerve? "
Nah, I don't have any nerves left to be touched. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ah yes, because people can’t just be abusive or display narcissistic behaviours without someone else’s actions. "
Pathological Narcissisism doesn't always manifest as abuse -- some presentations of NPD can seem incredibly insecure.
Plus, not all abuse is Narcissistic, and there's often a history of trauma in people who allow it over any period of time.
The main issue I have is when people put themselves in a diagnostic role without any qualification to do so.
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