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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sexism ?? Misogyny ??? I asked all the other women making the sandwiches and washing the kits and like me they said Noooooooooooooo where ?"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I mean... Yeah  "
To expand upon it, it's been a huge part of cricket. Recently I was shocked at how much of a big deal Scott Boland being of indigenous descent was and how he was only the 2nd indigenous male to play for Australia.
Then you look at the Racism with Yorkshire Cricket Club and how classiest the English setup is and nepotism going a long way. The apartheid affecting the South African team. It's actually pretty crazy how dark the past is of cricket. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I mean... Yeah
To expand upon it, it's been a huge part of cricket. Recently I was shocked at how much of a big deal Scott Boland being of indigenous descent was and how he was only the 2nd indigenous male to play for Australia.
Then you look at the Racism with Yorkshire Cricket Club and how classiest the English setup is and nepotism going a long way. The apartheid affecting the South African team. It's actually pretty crazy how dark the past is of cricket."
Honestly cricket being found out to be full of racists is one of the least surprising things to happen in my lifetime |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Isn't this old news?
It was discussed some time ago, maybe a couple of years.
Or are there new findings in the current news?"
New findings from a new report |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it. "
The problem with all this ‘racism in cricket’ lark is that only middle class white guys tend to be good at the sport so… |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"It’s cricket and old boys game what did anyone expect
Old boys ?
Yes. Like men
But NONE of the England side are old.....
none of em "
Old boys= men.
Old girls= women.
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"Isn't this old news?
It was discussed some time ago, maybe a couple of years.
Or are there new findings in the current news?"
A few years? I would have said a few decades. Others might argue the racism, elitism and sexism goes a lot back further.
The first time I remember hearing about this was the response after N Tebbit mentioned his cricket test.
But it's not exactly new news is it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it. "
Just how far you've missed the point of this is actually quite impressive! |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"I'm not saying racism doesn't exist but I've not encountered any racism in a long time of playing and coaching. It brings communities together if anything "
I'll fully accept what you're saying but when racism and discrimination is institutional it's a lot harder to see and for people on the ground in the organisation to see and appreciate the scale.
That's when the external 10,000 foot overview becomes useful. Such an overview might show the scale of the issue but reforming the organisation is much more difficult task. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I mean... Yeah
To expand upon it, it's been a huge part of cricket. Recently I was shocked at how much of a big deal Scott Boland being of indigenous descent was and how he was only the 2nd indigenous male to play for Australia.
Then you look at the Racism with Yorkshire Cricket Club and how classiest the English setup is and nepotism going a long way. The apartheid affecting the South African team. It's actually pretty crazy how dark the past is of cricket.
Honestly cricket being found out to be full of racists is one of the least surprising things to happen in my lifetime"
Nooooo it's all on merit where everyone gets the opportunity to succeed  |
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it.
Just how far you've missed the point of this is actually quite impressive!"
No. He really hasn't missed the point. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it.
Just how far you've missed the point of this is actually quite impressive!
No. He really hasn't missed the point. "
He kind of has, we're not saying there should be quotas, but more of an effort to diversify at grassroots and county level so that those who come from a lesser background or are of different ethnicities aren't put off pursuing cricket as a career. But no, let's minimise the argument by referring to quotas and participations for the hell of it. Great job  |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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If they made kids play it all year round in schools instead of the one hot week in June, more children of colour might find it appealing.
Anyway, have you seen how much cricket bats, whites and ppe for cricket is?  |
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it.
Just how far you've missed the point of this is actually quite impressive!
No. He really hasn't missed the point.
He kind of has, we're not saying there should be quotas, but more of an effort to diversify at grassroots and county level so that those who come from a lesser background or are of different ethnicities aren't put off pursuing cricket as a career. But no, let's minimise the argument by referring to quotas and participations for the hell of it. Great job "
He was being sarcastic- I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm. I don't believe he is seriously championing gestures and forced participation on skin colour. |
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it. "
Plus lots of hand wringing from those within the game as they say it's so bad but oh no of course they never saw it..
Replace Cricket with any other sport and commerce, public services and politics whenever such things become publicly acknowledged.. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"I mean... Yeah
To expand upon it, it's been a huge part of cricket. Recently I was shocked at how much of a big deal Scott Boland being of indigenous descent was and how he was only the 2nd indigenous male to play for Australia.
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I dint know what Australia is like now but when I was there in 1995 , they literally hid all the indigenous people in the desert and built a huge pharmacy for them. I’m not joking there is a desert road from Cloncurry to the centre, and in the middle of nowhere a huge settlement of prescription and petrol addicted people , it was very sad to experience this and I was told there are many more places like that in the desert. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it.
Just how far you've missed the point of this is actually quite impressive!
No. He really hasn't missed the point.
He kind of has, we're not saying there should be quotas, but more of an effort to diversify at grassroots and county level so that those who come from a lesser background or are of different ethnicities aren't put off pursuing cricket as a career. But no, let's minimise the argument by referring to quotas and participations for the hell of it. Great job
He was being sarcastic- I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm. I don't believe he is seriously championing gestures and forced participation on skin colour."
He was being sarcastic with the implication that it's what we want. Essentially, it was more mocking than sarcasm |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it.
Just how far you've missed the point of this is actually quite impressive!
No. He really hasn't missed the point.
He kind of has, we're not saying there should be quotas, but more of an effort to diversify at grassroots and county level so that those who come from a lesser background or are of different ethnicities aren't put off pursuing cricket as a career. But no, let's minimise the argument by referring to quotas and participations for the hell of it. Great job
He was being sarcastic- I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm. I don't believe he is seriously championing gestures and forced participation on skin colour."
He most certainly wasn’t. He clearly doesn’t support gestures either. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it.
Just how far you've missed the point of this is actually quite impressive!
No. He really hasn't missed the point.
He kind of has, we're not saying there should be quotas, but more of an effort to diversify at grassroots and county level so that those who come from a lesser background or are of different ethnicities aren't put off pursuing cricket as a career. But no, let's minimise the argument by referring to quotas and participations for the hell of it. Great job
He was being sarcastic- I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm. I don't believe he is seriously championing gestures and forced participation on skin colour.
He was being sarcastic with the implication that it's what we want. Essentially, it was more mocking than sarcasm"
Oooo no i se this too |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it.
Just how far you've missed the point of this is actually quite impressive!
No. He really hasn't missed the point.
He kind of has, we're not saying there should be quotas, but more of an effort to diversify at grassroots and county level so that those who come from a lesser background or are of different ethnicities aren't put off pursuing cricket as a career. But no, let's minimise the argument by referring to quotas and participations for the hell of it. Great job
He was being sarcastic- I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm. I don't believe he is seriously championing gestures and forced participation on skin colour."
Also quotas wouldn’t be forced participation? |
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it. "
And women cricketers with todgers, not just looking like they could have todgers. That's what we need.
Racism is racist too. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Quotas is what we need...oh and gestures... More gestures. That and forcing more diverse folks to play the game and be good at it.
And women cricketers with todgers, not just looking like they could have todgers. That's what we need.
Racism is racist too. "
Idk what this means |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Meanwhile, there's only one change for the next Test with public schoolboy Josh Tongue replacing Moeen Ali "
No Ali and no Archer. Not a good look for England |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’ve never known a white player play for India or Pakistan. Are these countries setting a precedent?
Roger Binny."
There have been white players play for the Windies as well. |
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"I’ve never known a white player play for India or Pakistan. Are these countries setting a precedent?
Roger Binny.
There have been white players play for the Windies as well."
I’m surprised more Indian and Pakistani folk don’t play for England. A lot of the people that I know live and breathe cricket. |
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"I’ve never known a white player play for India or Pakistan. Are these countries setting a precedent?
Roger Binny.
There have been white players play for the Windies as well.
I’m surprised more Indian and Pakistani folk don’t play for England. A lot of the people that I know live and breathe cricket. "
I think the findings or some reports have been that institutional racism and other factors have deterred and prevented in other ways players of south Asian and West Indian descent* from making it to the international level. I remember conversations of that nature being had. But there’s also a link between these communities and the findings that cricket is not accessible and has a possible classist issue. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"I’ve never known a white player play for India or Pakistan. Are these countries setting a precedent?
Roger Binny.
There have been white players play for the Windies as well.
I’m surprised more Indian and Pakistani folk don’t play for England. A lot of the people that I know live and breathe cricket.
I think the findings or some reports have been that institutional racism and other factors have deterred and prevented in other ways players of south Asian and West Indian descent* from making it to the international level. I remember conversations of that nature being had. But there’s also a link between these communities and the findings that cricket is not accessible and has a possible classist issue. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_test
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"English cricket is deep-rooted with widespread institutional racism, sexism and class-based discrimination apparently.
It’s on the sky sports!  "
Really….. howzat!!!!!!!!!!!
I’ll get my coat  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’ve never known a white player play for India or Pakistan. Are these countries setting a precedent?
Roger Binny.
There have been white players play for the Windies as well.
I’m surprised more Indian and Pakistani folk don’t play for England. A lot of the people that I know live and breathe cricket.
I think the findings or some reports have been that institutional racism and other factors have deterred and prevented in other ways players of south Asian and West Indian descent* from making it to the international level. I remember conversations of that nature being had. But there’s also a link between these communities and the findings that cricket is not accessible and has a possible classist issue. "
To be fair, I think cultural issues can also play a part. Perhaps the parents of first generation British born ethnicities don't see sports as a viable career and are deterred as a result. This could be because of the above issues mentioned though but it does play a part of it. It's like how there are hardly any south Asian professional footballers |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I’ve never known a white player play for India or Pakistan. Are these countries setting a precedent?
Roger Binny.
There have been white players play for the Windies as well.
I’m surprised more Indian and Pakistani folk don’t play for England. A lot of the people that I know live and breathe cricket.
I think the findings or some reports have been that institutional racism and other factors have deterred and prevented in other ways players of south Asian and West Indian descent* from making it to the international level. I remember conversations of that nature being had. But there’s also a link between these communities and the findings that cricket is not accessible and has a possible classist issue.
To be fair, I think cultural issues can also play a part. Perhaps the parents of first generation British born ethnicities don't see sports as a viable career and are deterred as a result. This could be because of the above issues mentioned though but it does play a part of it. It's like how there are hardly any south Asian professional footballers"
true but football is a good example. Remember when the Azeem Rafiq case was going on and he gave evidence someone at the ECB I think said in response that all the young poc want to play football - suggesting they’re not interested in cricket. At least for Black kids, football seriously offers a way out. Wonder where interest in cricket is lost amongst West Indian families but that’s a whole research project |
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"English cricket is deep-rooted with widespread institutional racism, sexism and class-based discrimination apparently.
It’s on the sky sports! "
I’m disappointed in you Steve. Your chance to say “It’s all over the Sky Sports News” was staring you right in the face and you missed it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"English cricket is deep-rooted with widespread institutional racism, sexism and class-based discrimination apparently.
It’s on the sky sports!
I’m disappointed in you Steve. Your chance to say “It’s all over the Sky Sports News” was staring you right in the face and you missed it."
Imitation is a form of flattery or something |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"English cricket is deep-rooted with widespread institutional racism, sexism and class-based discrimination apparently.
It’s on the sky sports!
I’m disappointed in you Steve. Your chance to say “It’s all over the Sky Sports News” was staring you right in the face and you missed it.
Imitation is a form of flattery or something"
Fair point. I don’t know enough about cricket to comment on what’s going on so I won’t be saying anything more on this thread apart from… Fuck racists. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"I’ve never known a white player play for India or Pakistan. Are these countries setting a precedent?
Roger Binny.
There have been white players play for the Windies as well.
I’m surprised more Indian and Pakistani folk don’t play for England. A lot of the people that I know live and breathe cricket.
I think the findings or some reports have been that institutional racism and other factors have deterred and prevented in other ways players of south Asian and West Indian descent* from making it to the international level. I remember conversations of that nature being had. But there’s also a link between these communities and the findings that cricket is not accessible and has a possible classist issue.
To be fair, I think cultural issues can also play a part. Perhaps the parents of first generation British born ethnicities don't see sports as a viable career and are deterred as a result. This could be because of the above issues mentioned though but it does play a part of it. It's like how there are hardly any south Asian professional footballers true but football is a good example. Remember when the Azeem Rafiq case was going on and he gave evidence someone at the ECB I think said in response that all the young poc want to play football - suggesting they’re not interested in cricket. At least for Black kids, football seriously offers a way out. Wonder where interest in cricket is lost amongst West Indian families but that’s a whole research project"
Not as many local cricket teams as football, and not played all year round like football is.
They could play rugby, but most schools concentrate on football and field sports.
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By *ad NannaWoman
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"I’ve never known a white player play for India or Pakistan. Are these countries setting a precedent?
Roger Binny.
There have been white players play for the Windies as well.
I’m surprised more Indian and Pakistani folk don’t play for England. A lot of the people that I know live and breathe cricket.
I think the findings or some reports have been that institutional racism and other factors have deterred and prevented in other ways players of south Asian and West Indian descent* from making it to the international level. I remember conversations of that nature being had. But there’s also a link between these communities and the findings that cricket is not accessible and has a possible classist issue.
To be fair, I think cultural issues can also play a part. Perhaps the parents of first generation British born ethnicities don't see sports as a viable career and are deterred as a result. This could be because of the above issues mentioned though but it does play a part of it. It's like how there are hardly any south Asian professional footballers true but football is a good example. Remember when the Azeem Rafiq case was going on and he gave evidence someone at the ECB I think said in response that all the young poc want to play football - suggesting they’re not interested in cricket. At least for Black kids, football seriously offers a way out. Wonder where interest in cricket is lost amongst West Indian families but that’s a whole research project"
It's the weather. We don't have the weather to play it in winter. It's a seasonal sport like tennis.
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"English cricket is deep-rooted with widespread institutional racism, sexism and class-based discrimination apparently.
It’s on the sky sports!
I’m disappointed in you Steve. Your chance to say “It’s all over the Sky Sports News” was staring you right in the face and you missed it.
Imitation is a form of flattery or something
Fair point. I don’t know enough about cricket to comment on what’s going on so I won’t be saying anything more on this thread apart from… Fuck racists."
I’d rather not fuck racists |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I’ve never known a white player play for India or Pakistan. Are these countries setting a precedent?
Roger Binny.
There have been white players play for the Windies as well.
I’m surprised more Indian and Pakistani folk don’t play for England. A lot of the people that I know live and breathe cricket.
I think the findings or some reports have been that institutional racism and other factors have deterred and prevented in other ways players of south Asian and West Indian descent* from making it to the international level. I remember conversations of that nature being had. But there’s also a link between these communities and the findings that cricket is not accessible and has a possible classist issue.
To be fair, I think cultural issues can also play a part. Perhaps the parents of first generation British born ethnicities don't see sports as a viable career and are deterred as a result. This could be because of the above issues mentioned though but it does play a part of it. It's like how there are hardly any south Asian professional footballers true but football is a good example. Remember when the Azeem Rafiq case was going on and he gave evidence someone at the ECB I think said in response that all the young poc want to play football - suggesting they’re not interested in cricket. At least for Black kids, football seriously offers a way out. Wonder where interest in cricket is lost amongst West Indian families but that’s a whole research project
Not as many local cricket teams as football, and not played all year round like football is.
They could play rugby, but most schools concentrate on football and field sports.
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True. I hear this.
I’d add that I used to play cricket Year round. And I think similar to what Joe said on a previous thread, that came from culture. My Nan wanted me to play cricket like they did in Jamaica. So the interest can be maintained beyond school like in south Asian families. I’m sure many Jamaican families coming here were the same but it’s difficult to pinpoint where exactly that interest in the super has disappeared to. I’d guess class is a big issue. Opportunity to actually make it in the sport though is surely another factor. Idk |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
Derry |
"English cricket is deep-rooted with widespread institutional racism, sexism and class-based discrimination apparently.
It’s on the sky sports!
I’m disappointed in you Steve. Your chance to say “It’s all over the Sky Sports News” was staring you right in the face and you missed it.
Imitation is a form of flattery or something
Fair point. I don’t know enough about cricket to comment on what’s going on so I won’t be saying anything more on this thread apart from… Fuck racists.
I’d rather not fuck racists"
just a preference though?  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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It's the weather. We don't have the weather to play it in winter. It's a seasonal sport like tennis.
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You can play indoors, tapeball stuff too. I also played tennis year round tbf. I think it’s lack of clubs like you said and many other factors too |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"English cricket is deep-rooted with widespread institutional racism, sexism and class-based discrimination apparently.
It’s on the sky sports!
I’m disappointed in you Steve. Your chance to say “It’s all over the Sky Sports News” was staring you right in the face and you missed it.
Imitation is a form of flattery or something
Fair point. I don’t know enough about cricket to comment on what’s going on so I won’t be saying anything more on this thread apart from… Fuck racists."
Why? Cos fuck em that’s why. |
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I have an issue with this. While I agree with the findings we have to look at the educational system and who it is being taught to in schools.
When I was growing up many years ago cricket was taught and played in primary and secondary school with thriving teams.
Now I can’t see that happening other than in private schools. And you can guess the demographic of privately educated children.
Or am I wrong on this?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I think access is a good point but ultimately beyond access, the racism in the sport sounds pretty bad. Many footballers talk about racism in the sport but the experiences south Asian players have talked about are pretty grim and sounds like 60s Britain. The racism and islamophobia is grim. So making the story more accessible will hello but we’re (myself included) equally not discussing how to actually challenge the issues currently facing those in the sport. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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This has been an interesting and refreshing conversation and I will return and read any further contribution but what else is there really for me to say.
It is what it is at this point |
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To give the report a fair hearing there's more than just racism as abhorrent as that is which is not acceptable in the game and not just cricket..
Accessibility across the board for many has been reduced..
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The meaning of Racism has changed so much. I was born and brought up in Africa where the subject was a hive of activity. The one thing that all people learnt in Africa is a Racist is someone who believes their own Race is better than another Race. There were many nasty words even in comparison to today lol but everyone of all races knew the differences and often joked about it together. So much banter on the Rugby or Soccer fields led to a lot of laughter from all sides. These days you just have to say I hate black boots is referred to as being racist lol. Personally I've had many Black, White, Yellow and all inbetween colors as friends and we have all been happy to call each other all sorts of different things in fun. Banter is good fun and racism should not be used to stop people having fun with each other. I totally agree there are many people who are racist and as far as I and my friends are concerned, they have their opinions and we don't have to agree. But don't stop us from having our fun together without labeling us.
There is so much hype about Racism these days on the News Media is it any wonder it has become the way it is. |
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It's the weather. We don't have the weather to play it in winter. It's a seasonal sport like tennis.
You can play indoors, tapeball stuff too. I also played tennis year round tbf. I think it’s lack of clubs like you said and many other factors too"
A lot of sports that need specialist equipment become inaccessible due to the cost. Parents can't afford all the safety equipment and a good enough bat. In wheelchair sports, parents can't afford a custom sized wheelchair that won't grow with the child (at £2000-3000 a pop, easily). Charity funding for sports is going down, and there's not enough local council/Govt funding either.
It's a big problem in wheelchair sports, lack of funds. Running basketball is a pretty accessible sport for people on low incomes - you can buy a cheap ball, basic trainers and play on a public court for free. But to play wheelchair basketball, you need a sports wheelchair. A non custom one will cost minimum £1500 but depending on the disability, people may get pressure sores or other issues unless the chair is custom sized. Then you double the cost. For a child, they will grow but wheelchairs cannot be made bigger. You have to buy a new one. What families of disabled people can afford multiple wheelchairs at £3k a pop?
More funding for grassroots sports from local councils and Govt will go some way to equalising the participation of different marginalised groups, but the support has to continue. You can't just drop people off a cliff financially and expect their families to pick up the tab. |
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"I think access is a good point but ultimately beyond access, the racism in the sport sounds pretty bad. Many footballers talk about racism in the sport but the experiences south Asian players have talked about are pretty grim and sounds like 60s Britain. The racism and islamophobia is grim. So making the story more accessible will hello but we’re (myself included) equally not discussing how to actually challenge the issues currently facing those in the sport. "
This is also very, very true and if still going on now, needs to be wééded out and stopped. |
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"Because mostly posh toffs and farmer boys play it"
Clearly never been to Yorkshire, Lancashire and North Notts where club cricket in working class areas still very strong. I've seen far more racism in football than cricket. That said the game is becoming more elitist and to have a chance at making it professionally as a batsmen its easier if you go to an independent school. |
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The issue is many state schools don’t play it. If this was pushed more then more would play. Plenty of clubs have facilities and kit to help newbies or less privileged play. However they have no real involvement unless family play.
Increase this and you will increase Club participation. The World Cup win help boost younger players and you see that at every club. I have seen a massive uptake at the clubs I coach at and help over the last few years.
Increase grass roots at schools and it will flood down over the next years.
Public schools play the game a lot and to a good standard which is why they produce the most top players. To address the balance it needs to be played more in state schools.
I speak from the public side. However spend a lot of time encouraging as many as I can to play. The game is the National sport and should be protected and promoted as such. |
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"Meanwhile, there's only one change for the next Test with public schoolboy Josh Tongue replacing Moeen Ali
No Ali and no Archer. Not a good look for England "
Sure, play Ali because hes asian. That's the way to fix it.or play archer even though hes injured and cant bowl but he is black so get in there my son
Or maybe play an all pace attack of fit cricketers from the squad. because its a green top and we want to win the game because its the ashes.
Anyone know much about how elite the england mens captain is? |
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"I’ve never known a white player play for India or Pakistan. Are these countries setting a precedent?
Roger Binny.
There have been white players play for the Windies as well.
I’m surprised more Indian and Pakistani folk don’t play for England. A lot of the people that I know live and breathe cricket.
I think the findings or some reports have been that institutional racism and other factors have deterred and prevented in other ways players of south Asian and West Indian descent* from making it to the international level. I remember conversations of that nature being had. But there’s also a link between these communities and the findings that cricket is not accessible and has a possible classist issue.
To be fair, I think cultural issues can also play a part. Perhaps the parents of first generation British born ethnicities don't see sports as a viable career and are deterred as a result. This could be because of the above issues mentioned though but it does play a part of it. It's like how there are hardly any south Asian professional footballers true but football is a good example. Remember when the Azeem Rafiq case was going on and he gave evidence someone at the ECB I think said in response that all the young poc want to play football - suggesting they’re not interested in cricket. At least for Black kids, football seriously offers a way out. Wonder where interest in cricket is lost amongst West Indian families but that’s a whole research project"
Arent they moving more toward basketball and us college sports? |
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In my experience, which is all i can give.. Over  best part of 50 years of local community cricket, its a friendly, welcoming sport, requires space and money to maintain facilities and takes a long time to complete and many players who dont bat or bowl can get bored and find other activities. I have played for teams and in leagues that were friendly and the furthest from what has been painted over the entire sport and ive played for teams in leagues which were dominated by exactly what has been concluded from the report... In my own opinion, im not sure they were racists or elitists or misogynists, they were just horrible teams of horrible people... The worst of which was the all asian team... And the best (in every way) was the all west indian team.
I certainly know of racism from 30 years ago, with outstanding cricketers beinf excluded from elite player pathways because of the colour of their skin. Its certainly a damning report, lets hope they can encourage greatet and fairer participation as it can be a great sport. Could start by putting it back on terrestrial tv. |
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