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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Gender Neutral Bathrooms: Should They be Standard?
Sensitive subject yet I believe all bathrooms should be gender neutral! Wonder what you peeps think ? |
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By *TG3Man
over a year ago
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"Gender Neutral Bathrooms: Should They be Standard?
Sensitive subject yet I believe all bathrooms should be gender neutral! Wonder what you peeps think ? "
so to suit a man or a woman....... Green then  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Yes. Been saying it for ages. They are all over the place abroad, especially in Europe.
People missed the point I think. A gender neutral public toilet is essentially a cubicle (for one) that opens into the street. In the cubicle is everything you need (toilet, wash basin etc). Not about pervs sitting in there “waiting for fresh meat”.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Keep single sex multi person toilets.
Have unisex toilets where there is on toilet in a room and everyone else has to wait outside.
People should have the option. Some people don't feel comfortable being vulnerable with the other gender for reasons too horrific to force them to accept. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"Gender Neutral Bathrooms: Should They be Standard?
Sensitive subject yet I believe all bathrooms should be gender neutral! Wonder what you peeps think ? "
We have two at home. They're great and there's never been any problems.  
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"Put it to a public vote like brexit. 
Can't say that will be a huge success look at Brexit and our government
I can imagine Farage's billboards already."
A queue of Turks waiting to use a unisex lav? 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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At work we have a mixture of Male, Female and Unisex toilets for at least the past 10 years that I've been there and it hasn't caused any issues but it may be a different case where no alternatives are provided.
I guess the benefit of unisex toilets is that Trans people dont have a dilemma when they want to use the bathroom. I cant think of any other benefit to them other than cost savings.
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"Put it to a public vote like brexit.
Can't say that will be a huge success look at Brexit and our government
I can imagine Farage's billboards already.
A queue of Turks waiting to use a unisex lav?
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A queue of middle eastern looking guys and one little obviously british granny. |
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By *TG3Man
over a year ago
Dorchester |
"Gender Neutral Bathrooms: Should They be Standard?
Sensitive subject yet I believe all bathrooms should be gender neutral! Wonder what you peeps think ? so to suit a man or a woman....... Green then "
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No, but definitely where able add one or two neutral but male & female should have the option of separate toilets & only people with the relevant genitals use the correct ones.
Nothing has changed in this world, we all know what a real man & real woman is. Anything else is pretending. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't like the idea.
Now fair enough, throw them in the mix with male and female so people have an option but I would not feel safe using a gender neutral toilet unless it was a private locked room. |
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You mean like the bathroom in everyone's house?
It's become common in London for bathrooms to be gender neutral and it's fine, they're usually nicer bathrooms.
The hysteria around it is absolute silly bollocks.
You've all used gender neutral bathrooms. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it's bizarre as a nation that we share pretty much every environment with the opposite sex without getting attacked. But the second we talk about toilets, everyone becomes a sexual predator. |
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"I think it's bizarre as a nation that we share pretty much every environment with the opposite sex without getting attacked. But the second we talk about toilets, everyone becomes a sexual predator."
I can't help but feel there is a lot of projection involved.
The only though I have in a bathroom is to finish and leave the bathroom with as little eye contact as possible. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Absolutely not. Men are pigs in the bathroom. Have no idea how to piss in the loo. The end "
I want to share with women… I want potpourri and lush carpets and moisturiser. |
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"I think it's bizarre as a nation that we share pretty much every environment with the opposite sex without getting attacked. But the second we talk about toilets, everyone becomes a sexual predator."
I think it's about privacy, it's pretty silly but unsurprising someone goes to warp mode/bleeding heart by mentioning sexual predators but it's your diversion tactic.
As you also say we share pretty much every environment but you forget the ones we don't share & that's the issue here. |
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"Absolutely not. Men are pigs in the bathroom. Have no idea how to piss in the loo. The end "
As a man I completely agree, can't comment on ladies toilets but Gents loo's in services are often horrendous.
I make a point of thanking the cleaner's if I see one, a truly thankless task. |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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"Absolutely not. Men are pigs in the bathroom. Have no idea how to piss in the loo. The end "
My cleaning teams would like to share some of the horrendous and vile things they have come across left by women in the women's toilets over the years.
"professional" adults working in an office building.
Some of the things I've never even seen in public toilets. |
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"Yes. Been saying it for ages. They are all over the place abroad, especially in Europe.
People missed the point I think. A gender neutral public toilet is essentially a cubicle (for one) that opens into the street. In the cubicle is everything you need (toilet, wash basin etc). Not about pervs sitting in there “waiting for fresh meat”. "
This.
Pretty much every disabled toilet in the world is gender neutral. No-one seems concerned that women on wheels have to wait for men (who may be on foot) to come out, walk past us etc so we can use the accessible loo. But there's not a mass outbreak of disabled toilet users being mølested. Men, women and non-binary people manage to stand and wait in close proximity for other reasons, get in lifts or use car parks in dark corners, usually without issue. It's not to say problems will never happen because that's plainly ludicrous, but if a man is dead set on harming a woman in a toilet, what is stopping him doing it now? Someone with that intention won't give a shit that the door says "ladies" with a stereotypical picture on it. They can still go inside and do whatever they intend to do. |
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"I don't like the idea.
Now fair enough, throw them in the mix with male and female so people have an option but I would not feel safe using a gender neutral toilet unless it was a private locked room."
This is exactly what a gender neutral toilet is supposed to be. Toilet, washbasin, floor to ceiling walls, floor to ceiling door with proper lock. Basically exactly the same as the gender neutral toilet you have in your home, or in any small business that only has a single toilet.
Many objections are made along the lines of "men leave toilets in a disgusting state". However (a) some ladies also leave toilets in a disgusting state, (b) this is an issue of proper toilet training, not gender. |
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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago
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"I think it's bizarre as a nation that we share pretty much every environment with the opposite sex without getting attacked. But the second we talk about toilets, everyone becomes a sexual predator."
it's just one of easily accessible hot button issues that incites division. Very quickly the debate switches focus from toilets to predators. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Absolutely not. Men are pigs in the bathroom. Have no idea how to piss in the loo. The end
As a man I completely agree, can't comment on ladies toilets but Gents loo's in services are often horrendous.
I make a point of thanking the cleaner's if I see one, a truly thankless task. "
Well done !!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Keep single sex multi person toilets.
Have unisex toilets where there is on toilet in a room and everyone else has to wait outside.
People should have the option. Some people don't feel comfortable being vulnerable with the other gender for reasons too horrific to force them to accept. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes. Been saying it for ages. They are all over the place abroad, especially in Europe.
People missed the point I think. A gender neutral public toilet is essentially a cubicle (for one) that opens into the street. In the cubicle is everything you need (toilet, wash basin etc). Not about pervs sitting in there “waiting for fresh meat”.
This.
Pretty much every disabled toilet in the world is gender neutral. No-one seems concerned that women on wheels have to wait for men (who may be on foot) to come out, walk past us etc so we can use the accessible loo. But there's not a mass outbreak of disabled toilet users being mølested. Men, women and non-binary people manage to stand and wait in close proximity for other reasons, get in lifts or use car parks in dark corners, usually without issue. It's not to say problems will never happen because that's plainly ludicrous, but if a man is dead set on harming a woman in a toilet, what is stopping him doing it now? Someone with that intention won't give a shit that the door says "ladies" with a stereotypical picture on it. They can still go inside and do whatever they intend to do. "
I was sat in a pub yesterday and a man was going to walk into the Ladies. He claimed he hadn't seen the sign. To be fair the sign was at crotch level but still... |
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Surely all single use toilets are gender neutral, like the ones in small restaurants with a sink inside them. If you took all toilets and made them like that the conversation wouldn't be controversial at all. |
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If the plan is to support only one or two people at a time, it already works that way. The problem is when you increase the number of people.
Men's toilets in big spaces have the concept of urinals which saves time, real estate and also water for men who just want to pee. And then there is the wash basin area which men and women typically use for different purposes.
If we go the gender neutral toilets route, you will have to build cubicles with each cubicle being able to support needs of people from all genders.
So unless you have enough space and resources to build a huge cubicles like that with all the amenities, it is just wasteful.
The current system works. It saves space and gives people the privacy they need. I don't know why people want to change it.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes. Been saying it for ages. They are all over the place abroad, especially in Europe.
People missed the point I think. A gender neutral public toilet is essentially a cubicle (for one) that opens into the street. In the cubicle is everything you need (toilet, wash basin etc). Not about pervs sitting in there “waiting for fresh meat”.
This.
Pretty much every disabled toilet in the world is gender neutral. No-one seems concerned that women on wheels have to wait for men (who may be on foot) to come out, walk past us etc so we can use the accessible loo. But there's not a mass outbreak of disabled toilet users being mølested. Men, women and non-binary people manage to stand and wait in close proximity for other reasons, get in lifts or use car parks in dark corners, usually without issue. It's not to say problems will never happen because that's plainly ludicrous, but if a man is dead set on harming a woman in a toilet, what is stopping him doing it now? Someone with that intention won't give a shit that the door says "ladies" with a stereotypical picture on it. They can still go inside and do whatever they intend to do.
I was sat in a pub yesterday and a man was going to walk into the Ladies. He claimed he hadn't seen the sign. To be fair the sign was at crotch level but still... "
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