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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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How America deal with things different to Britain?
America
A 13 year old kills 2 people and 25 years later he is still in prison, he can be up for parol at the age of 100.
Britain
A 12 year old kills 1 person, at the age of 18 he has been released, given a new identity and support but yet does another crime.
Do America have the right way to do things and keep killers locked away for life or should killers be given a second chance?
Watching this and these men seem polite and friendly so should they be given another chance.... Im not sure! |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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Not sure - but I think that it is against international law (which America is a signatory to) to condemn a child in an adult court, hand them an adult sentence and put them in an adult prison. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Watching it further and these men seem remorsefull. Quote of one man " you say that killing is wrong but yet you are going to kill me "
Should it be life for a life?
Yes I think it should. |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Watching it further and these men seem remorsefull. Quote of one man " you say that killing is wrong but yet you are going to kill me "
Should it be life for a life?
Yes I think it should."
I disagree. As Ghandi said - 'an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'. Meaning, if you punish like for like you make the world a lesser place.
State killing is simply revenge. It is not a deterrent. And a punishment? Punishment means that you learn something. Hard to learn your lesson if you are dead! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Watching it further and these men seem remorsefull. Quote of one man " you say that killing is wrong but yet you are going to kill me "
Should it be life for a life?
Yes I think it should.
I disagree. As Ghandi said - 'an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'. Meaning, if you punish like for like you make the world a lesser place.
State killing is simply revenge. It is not a deterrent. And a punishment? Punishment means that you learn something. Hard to learn your lesson if you are dead!"
I hadnt thought of it like that, I was thinking about what if one of these men had killed someone I loved then I would want justice( in reality would want revenge)
I must admit I it did seem like these men were respectful of Trevor and didnt appear to be a threat to him and I did question if they should serve a real life sentence or death row. One man who had killed a police officer showed contempt for a man who had killed a baby but should the 2 crimes be different??? In his eyes yes but in mine no! |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Watching it further and these men seem remorsefull. Quote of one man " you say that killing is wrong but yet you are going to kill me "
Should it be life for a life?
Yes I think it should.
I disagree. As Ghandi said - 'an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind'. Meaning, if you punish like for like you make the world a lesser place.
State killing is simply revenge. It is not a deterrent. And a punishment? Punishment means that you learn something. Hard to learn your lesson if you are dead!
I hadnt thought of it like that, I was thinking about what if one of these men had killed someone I loved then I would want justice( in reality would want revenge)
I must admit I it did seem like these men were respectful of Trevor and didnt appear to be a threat to him and I did question if they should serve a real life sentence or death row. One man who had killed a police officer showed contempt for a man who had killed a baby but should the 2 crimes be different??? In his eyes yes but in mine no!"
Yes - to me killing another person is killing which is why I am opposed to the death penalty. I think it does not behove any state well if it behaves in such a 'personal' manner as to want revenge on murderers. The state should be unemotional in these cases.
Also, there are too many miscarriages of justice to justify having a death penalty. How many people, worldwide, have been subject to state-sanctioned killing and were innocent?
Some may say that is a price worth paying - sure it is - if it isn't you or one of your loved ones! Different matter if it is you on the other side of the bars. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If someone killed one of my children then naturally I would want revenge and I cannot say with 100% conviction that if I got to the murderer first that he would still be alive at the end of our meeting, but, if he was arrested before I got to him then the law would take it's course and I would take comfort from the fact that the state hadn't executed him but instead incarcerated him for the rest of his life to think about my child every day of his miserable stinking life.
Life should mean whole life term. |
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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago
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Keep only saw some of the programme but I saw the man who was the 13 year old who killed 2elderly women. He was serving 170 years jailed at 15 he had adapted very well to his life and seemed intelligent and articulate. Such a waste of his life by making a bad choice. America's judicial system is very varied though depending on state. Obviously not much of a deterrent either with gun crimes being so high there. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"In my opinion these people should be kept in prison but without all the luxurys they get these days
Didn't look luxurious to me.
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Nor me.... it looked quite grim...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Same old saying cant do the time don't do the crime!! We should be like America it would make them think before they carried out the crime. Bring back hanging!! |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"Not sure - but I think that it is against international law (which America is a signatory to) to condemn a child in an adult court, hand them an adult sentence and put them in an adult prison."
International Law is a set of standards nations expects others to live by. |
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By *picenicelyCouple
over a year ago
third star on the right |
Personally I (L) am undecided, I don't believe that the way life terms are currently served is sufficient. I am not sure if it is available in the UK or simply in certain areas but I remember watching a documentary and reading about contact sites which are for prisoners and the outside world such as writeaprisoner dot com
How are prisoners allowed to form relationships/get married and have children (in some places at least) when that has been denied their victim/s?
Granted they have their human rights and they obviously cannot be denied everything they denied their victims unless they are put to death.
When someone is going to spend their life in prison, do we attempt to rehabilitate so that they can die naturally seeing the error of their ways? What about sociopaths? How do we determine if someone is capable of rehabilitation and sentence accordingly?
Any sentence will always upset somebody and I always find death row programmes very thought provoking and turn me against death sentences. Then I hear of a crime which makes me think that someone capable of such atrocity doesn't deserve to live.
Bit of a spaghetti junction really.
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