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Ask yourself OP would you reply to your message? Your profile? What you have to offer. Have you sold yourself in the best light?
All of these things matter.
And welcome to the forums.
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"Ask yourself OP would you reply to your message? Your profile? What you have to offer. Have you sold yourself in the best light?
All of these things matter.
And welcome to the forums.
If you press reply+quote we will know who you’re replying to "
Ah I'm with you thanks, I'm new to this an just having a look what it's all about, it seems to be more meetings in clubs to me, rather than casual book ups. I am trying to improve my profile as well |
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"Ask yourself OP would you reply to your message? Your profile? What you have to offer. Have you sold yourself in the best light?
All of these things matter.
And welcome to the forums.
If you press reply+quote we will know who you’re replying to
Ah I'm with you thanks, I'm new to this a just having a look what it's all about, it seems to be more meetings in clubs to me, rather than casual book ups. I am trying to improve my profile as well "
No problem. We all start somewhere. The forums are good for advice if you’re just starting out. And clubs or socials are a great place to meet people. Hope you find your fun |
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"Gary hotdog doesn't help
Haha it's my alter ego, nah my name's josh I'm just worried someone might see me on here
Err... upu do know that you're showing your face?.. "
Yeaaa haha I keep hiding it though, don't know what I'm worried about tbh, nout wrong with exploring is there |
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"I'd guess because the introduction doesn't inspire a conversation.
I’m intrigued to know whether to be nice or down to point works with MOST ladies on here. ????"
I just sort of say hello how are you doing are you alright haha |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is it worth paying the money to get the extra things on here? Will that help me and is my profile picture okay?; or should I put a naked one on?"
Are you asking for profile advice? |
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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago
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"I'm only trying to have a conversation politely and no women ever reply haha "
OP, if you read the site rules, it's nor considered rude to not reply. Nobody is obliged to read / reply to any messages. |
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"I'm only trying to have a conversation politely and no women ever reply haha
OP, if you read the site rules, it's nor considered rude to not reply. Nobody is obliged to read / reply to any messages."
I never said it was rude I'm just wondering how I can improve my profile and start conversations better |
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"I'd guess because the introduction doesn't inspire a conversation.
I’m intrigued to know whether to be nice or down to point works with MOST ladies on here. ????
I just sort of say hello how are you doing are you alright haha"
I find either approach gets an instant no thanks from me |
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over a year ago
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"I'm only trying to have a conversation politely and no women ever reply haha "
Probably because they don't want too.
Crazy idea right.
Women, having choice, agency and the ability to do whatever they want.
If you are already struggling with that basic concept. Have a chat with yourself. |
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"I'm only trying to have a conversation politely and no women ever reply haha "
Oohhhh OP, I wouldn’t ask the women in this forum. They’re all weird, filthbag perverts with odd views on everything.
The reason you’re not getting replies is because the women you’ve written to are repressed.
Send cock and demands. Await response. Thank me later |
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"Anyone who messages without a face pic, or I can see the message is like "Fancy a MMF" ETC when my profile says no, I ignore. I have an inbox full of faceless dick pics and it's fine not to reply"
Coco I've even messaged you! Hahaha I have a face picture I just don't know what will make my profile more presentable |
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"I'm only trying to have a conversation politely and no women ever reply haha
Probably because they don't want too.
Crazy idea right.
Women, having choice, agency and the ability to do whatever they want.
If you are already struggling with that basic concept. Have a chat with yourself. "
I'm on a website where people chat to each other mate, not being nasty or looking for arguments just abit of advice |
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"I'm only trying to have a conversation politely and no women ever reply haha
OP, if you read the site rules, it's nor considered rude to not reply. Nobody is obliged to read / reply to any messages."
Really, we’ve messaged hundreds women and only a few have answered back, we get that women might be overloaded but |
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"I'd guess because the introduction doesn't inspire a conversation.
I’m intrigued to know whether to be nice or down to point works with MOST ladies on here. ????
I just sort of say hello how are you doing are you alright haha
I find either approach gets an instant no thanks from me "
Can I ask what would be a good conversation starter or ice breaker for you? |
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"I'd guess because the introduction doesn't inspire a conversation.
I’m intrigued to know whether to be nice or down to point works with MOST ladies on here. ????
I just sort of say hello how are you doing are you alright haha
I find either approach gets an instant no thanks from me
Can I ask what would be a good conversation starter or ice breaker for you?"
We do reply to most messages, even the single males who obviously haven’t read our profile |
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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago
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"I'm only trying to have a conversation politely and no women ever reply haha
OP, if you read the site rules, it's nor considered rude to not reply. Nobody is obliged to read / reply to any messages.
Really, we’ve messaged hundreds women and only a few have answered back, we get that women might be overloaded but "
Still up to individuals to read/ reply if they want to. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anyone who messages without a face pic, or I can see the message is like "Fancy a MMF" ETC when my profile says no, I ignore. I have an inbox full of faceless dick pics and it's fine not to reply
Coco I've even messaged you! Hahaha I have a face picture I just don't know what will make my profile more presentable "
Maybe she’s got a first in last out system for messages. I sent mine 2 weeks ago |
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"Anyone who messages without a face pic, or I can see the message is like "Fancy a MMF" ETC when my profile says no, I ignore. I have an inbox full of faceless dick pics and it's fine not to reply
Coco I've even messaged you! Hahaha I have a face picture I just don't know what will make my profile more presentable "
A few more pictures, giving an idea on at least your body shape.
Express in your bio what you are looking for here and what you can offer.
Think of your profile as your CV, and your message as a cover note.
Think of others profiles as adverts for a job, read them and realise they are telling you what they are looking for.
Look at the profiles you are messaging, what is it about them that catch your attention enough to message them?
Look at your own profile, what is it you hope will be enough to attract them to message you.
Similar with your message, is it enough for others to feel it's worth engaging with? more than the other many messages they receive that day. |
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By *yrdsisWoman
over a year ago
Gleam Street |
Shit happens.
I have all filters on and still get FAF messages from those who can bypass them.
Unfortunately, a bit more than Hi, how are you.. is required when 20 a day appear in the inbox |
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"Shit happens.
I have all filters on and still get FAF messages from those who can bypass them.
Unfortunately, a bit more than Hi, how are you.. is required when 20 a day appear in the inbox"
Yeaa am starting to understand now haha alot of men and not enough women seems to be the problem |
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"I'd guess because the introduction doesn't inspire a conversation.
I’m intrigued to know whether to be nice or down to point works with MOST ladies on here. ????
I just sort of say hello how are you doing are you alright haha
I find either approach gets an instant no thanks from me
Can I ask what would be a good conversation starter or ice breaker for you?
We do reply to most messages, even the single males who obviously haven’t read our profile "
Something that shows they've actually read at least some of the words I write rather than just firing off a bland copy paste to every viable orifice.
Something that connects with something I've personally said, and so is likely to make me want to talk.
I really don't care for telling 200 strangers a day how I'm doing individually. I'll usually send a fine or a no thanks, but they both mean no thanks at that point. If you don't bring an actual topic of conversation to the table, I'm not doing the legwork on initiating it with someone who's supposedly reaching out to me, and I'm not going through the pointless motions of 'polite' small talk. |
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"I'd guess because the introduction doesn't inspire a conversation.
I’m intrigued to know whether to be nice or down to point works with MOST ladies on here. ????
I just sort of say hello how are you doing are you alright haha
I find either approach gets an instant no thanks from me
Can I ask what would be a good conversation starter or ice breaker for you?
We do reply to most messages, even the single males who obviously haven’t read our profile "
I hardly ever reply to any messages. My inbox is a sea of yellow right now. Down to quite a few things like having the time, being bothered to look at the profiles - which I always do before reading the message and sometimes being arsed to
No one is forced to reply to anyone else and it’s not rude not to reply. It also means when you’ve replied that that person can get through any filters you have. So it’s sometimes better not to say no thanks xx |
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You’re up against literally thousands of other single guys looking for the same things as you are OP. You really have to stand out from the crowd in order to get noticed. Personally I don’t think people telling you what to write in your first message will help you much. Make sure you read their profiles fully before deciding to send a message. If you can’t think of anything other than “hi” to say after that, then maybe they aren’t the right person for you. |
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"I'd guess because the introduction doesn't inspire a conversation.
I’m intrigued to know whether to be nice or down to point works with MOST ladies on here. ????
I just sort of say hello how are you doing are you alright haha
I find either approach gets an instant no thanks from me
Can I ask what would be a good conversation starter or ice breaker for you?
We do reply to most messages, even the single males who obviously haven’t read our profile
I hardly ever reply to any messages. My inbox is a sea of yellow right now. Down to quite a few things like having the time, being bothered to look at the profiles - which I always do before reading the message and sometimes being arsed to
No one is forced to reply to anyone else and it’s not rude not to reply. It also means when you’ve replied that that person can get through any filters you have. So it’s sometimes better not to say no thanks xx"
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"I'd guess because the introduction doesn't inspire a conversation.
I’m intrigued to know whether to be nice or down to point works with MOST ladies on here. ????
I just sort of say hello how are you doing are you alright haha
Yea I get it now, my profile is really bad I know, I just don't see the point of improving it because it's a lottery trying to find a woman on here anyway haha
I find either approach gets an instant no thanks from me
Can I ask what would be a good conversation starter or ice breaker for you?
We do reply to most messages, even the single males who obviously haven’t read our profile
I hardly ever reply to any messages. My inbox is a sea of yellow right now. Down to quite a few things like having the time, being bothered to look at the profiles - which I always do before reading the message and sometimes being arsed to
No one is forced to reply to anyone else and it’s not rude not to reply. It also means when you’ve replied that that person can get through any filters you have. So it’s sometimes better not to say no thanks xx"
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"You’re up against literally thousands of other single guys looking for the same things as you are OP. You really have to stand out from the crowd in order to get noticed. Personally I don’t think people telling you what to write in your first message will help you much. Make sure you read their profiles fully before deciding to send a message. If you can’t think of anything other than “hi” to say after that, then maybe they aren’t the right person for you. "
Thank you that is good advice! I'm really new to this tbh and just learning the fab etiquette haha |
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"I'd guess because the introduction doesn't inspire a conversation.
I’m intrigued to know whether to be nice or down to point works with MOST ladies on here. ????
I just sort of say hello how are you doing are you alright haha
I find either approach gets an instant no thanks from me
Can I ask what would be a good conversation starter or ice breaker for you?
We do reply to most messages, even the single males who obviously haven’t read our profile
I hardly ever reply to any messages. My inbox is a sea of yellow right now. Down to quite a few things like having the time, being bothered to look at the profiles - which I always do before reading the message and sometimes being arsed to
No one is forced to reply to anyone else and it’s not rude not to reply. It also means when you’ve replied that that person can get through any filters you have. So it’s sometimes better not to say no thanks xx
You send me boobies. I'm special "
We all know you’re very special… |
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"I'd guess because the introduction doesn't inspire a conversation.
I’m intrigued to know whether to be nice or down to point works with MOST ladies on here. ????
I just sort of say hello how are you doing are you alright haha
I find either approach gets an instant no thanks from me
Can I ask what would be a good conversation starter or ice breaker for you?
We do reply to most messages, even the single males who obviously haven’t read our profile
I hardly ever reply to any messages. My inbox is a sea of yellow right now. Down to quite a few things like having the time, being bothered to look at the profiles - which I always do before reading the message and sometimes being arsed to
No one is forced to reply to anyone else and it’s not rude not to reply. It also means when you’ve replied that that person can get through any filters you have. So it’s sometimes better not to say no thanks xx
You send me boobies. I'm special
We all know you’re very special… "
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"You’re up against literally thousands of other single guys looking for the same things as you are OP. You really have to stand out from the crowd in order to get noticed. Personally I don’t think people telling you what to write in your first message will help you much. Make sure you read their profiles fully before deciding to send a message. If you can’t think of anything other than “hi” to say after that, then maybe they aren’t the right person for you.
Thank you that is good advice! I'm really new to this tbh and just learning the fab etiquette haha "
Use the search function for the forums for previous advice threads and get up to speed on how to use the site and its functions too. Good luck |
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"Ask yourself OP would you reply to your message? Your profile? What you have to offer. Have you sold yourself in the best light?
All of these things matter.
And welcome to the forums.
If you press reply+quote we will know who you’re replying to
Ah I'm with you thanks, I'm new to this an just having a look what it's all about, it seems to be more meetings in clubs to me, rather than casual book ups. I am trying to improve my profile as well "
Tbh it's what ever people make of it. Not all about clubs |
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By *oofy321Man
over a year ago
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Sorry op but newbies don't stand a chance in the forums, your be shot down by most men and women, maybe start a thread asking about general rules and im sure the more friendlier fabbers will assist you
Welcome and good luck x |
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"I know most women in here dont reply to my messages is because Im too ugly which is kool
Nothing to do with looks as i seen very average looking men with tons of verifications"
You've been looking a my profile again. I've told you that you're too demanding for me |
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To be honest starting this forum chat is the most interaction I've had off this site, I'll keep trying though haha , is there any other sites like this or is this the best one out there? And has everyone paid for the extra things on here? I'm in two minds whether to buy it or not |
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I think that most of the women on here are not interested in having a conversation with us guys because they think that most of us are just wanting to talk dirty with them and not interested in actually getting to know us first before they give us a chance to surprise them with the fact that we are nice guys and just want to get to know them. |
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"I think that most of the women on here are not interested in having a conversation with us guys because they think that most of us are just wanting to talk dirty with them and not interested in actually getting to know us first before they give us a chance to surprise them with the fact that we are nice guys and just want to get to know them."
That's total bull. I suspect 50/50 women enjoy dirty talk where others prefer to be treated with dignity and have a normal conversation instead just going straight into sex talk. I personally find it very off putting the over familiar creepy pervy intro messages men send. |
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"I think that most of the women on here are not interested in having a conversation with us guys because they think that most of us are just wanting to talk dirty with them and not interested in actually getting to know us first before they give us a chance to surprise them with the fact that we are nice guys and just want to get to know them."
Ok Dave… I think that’s probably a “bit” of a generalisation but hey… just keep talking for “most women”
Ps. It’s not like that at all for some women. |
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"Why do you think they aren't replying to you, OP?? "
My profiles abit basic isn't it.. I don't know whether to approach in a flirty way or a friendly way.. honestly really new to this so I duno haha thanks for advice though everyone |
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You have been very polite and there are lots of nice people on here that will give newbies good advise rather than come down on you like a ton of bricks as one or two have. Just ignore those. You take the good advise and do what suits you whilst respecting the wishes of others. Clubs can be good if that's something you want to do and is practical for you. All the best. |
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"Why do you think they aren't replying to you, OP??
My profiles abit basic isn't it.. I don't know whether to approach in a flirty way or a friendly way.. honestly really new to this so I duno haha thanks for advice though everyone " Just a little advice. Hot dog is a kinda like a appendage that screams one thing. It's not subtle. |
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"You have been very polite and there are lots of nice people on here that will give newbies good advise rather than come down on you like a ton of bricks as one or two have. Just ignore those. You take the good advise and do what suits you whilst respecting the wishes of others. Clubs can be good if that's something you want to do and is practical for you. All the best. "
Thanks alot pal, it's no big deal to be honest Im not here coz I'm lonely really just want abit of dirty chat or something I suppose hahaha |
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"Why do you think they aren't replying to you, OP??
My profiles abit basic isn't it.. I don't know whether to approach in a flirty way or a friendly way.. honestly really new to this so I duno haha thanks for advice though everyone Just a little advice. Hot dog is a kinda like a appendage that screams one thing. It's not subtle. "
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I'm very sorry if I have upset anyone with what I wrote on here it wasn't supposed to be nasty at all and I am sure that there are some lovely friendly women on here and might only be the ones that I have sent a message to and if any of you lovely ladies read this message I would just like to say that the message wasn't about you and I'm sure that you are nice and friendly and let me say hi to all you gorgeous girls and I'm sorry if that first message was upsetting to you |
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The women are not replying to me because i am dull and unimaginative. I lack a gym fit physique and proportionate length and girth for the perfect fit. I lack the hair to pull on, and the baldness to turn on. I havent the aspirational lifestyle nor the money to pay for one. I lack the power or influence to gain their favour. I have no mirth to give or humour to share. I am far too ordinary.
But what i do have, is a Volkswagon Golf.
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"The women are not replying to me because i am dull and unimaginative. I lack a gym fit physique and proportionate length and girth for the perfect fit. I lack the hair to pull on, and the baldness to turn on. I havent the aspirational lifestyle nor the money to pay for one. I lack the power or influence to gain their favour. I have no mirth to give or humour to share. I am far too ordinary.
But what i do have, is a Volkswagon Golf.
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That's it, big yourself up |
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"I'm very sorry if I have upset anyone with what I wrote on here it wasn't supposed to be nasty at all and I am sure that there are some lovely friendly women on here and might only be the ones that I have sent a message to and if any of you lovely ladies read this message I would just like to say that the message wasn't about you and I'm sure that you are nice and friendly and let me say hi to all you gorgeous girls and I'm sorry if that first message was upsetting to you "
That’s cool by me Dave
It’s best I find not to generalise. Fab can be tough, especially for single guys just simply down to numbers. But you’ll find friendly people here on the forum the same as we’ve been to the OP |
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"I'm very sorry if I have upset anyone with what I wrote on here it wasn't supposed to be nasty at all and I am sure that there are some lovely friendly women on here and might only be the ones that I have sent a message to and if any of you lovely ladies read this message I would just like to say that the message wasn't about you and I'm sure that you are nice and friendly and let me say hi to all you gorgeous girls and I'm sorry if that first message was upsetting to you
That’s cool by me Dave
It’s best I find not to generalise. Fab can be tough, especially for single guys just simply down to numbers. But you’ll find friendly people here on the forum the same as we’ve been to the OP "
Everyone's been really helpful thanks guys, I've had 21 profile visits since starting this forum haha that's a positive I suppose |
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By *izzy.Woman
over a year ago
Stoke area |
I'd cut out the recurrent "haha". It comes across as really immature and doesn't create a good impression.
You've been given some great advise on this thread.
Taylor your messages to people after reading their profile, if you feel you are compatible. Good luck. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm only trying to have a conversation politely and no women ever reply haha
It's generally because they're not interested in you.
I'm interesting thoooo"
Then put that in your profile! |
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It's a good site generally, a tool to be made use of! Obviously paying for site support doesn't guarantee anything, but you knew that I'm sure although now I'm picturing a dystopian universe where it does |
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"listen josh i wouldnt worry about it,,
Nice one Dave, not really worried just curious why there all so shy haha "
I hate to say it but if women on fab aren't replying it truly isn't because they are shy, they just aren't interested in your profile. |
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"Why do you think they aren't replying to you, OP??
My profiles abit basic isn't it.. I don't know whether to approach in a flirty way or a friendly way.. honestly really new to this so I duno haha thanks for advice though everyone "
My 5 ounces of advice.
Be yourself, write your profile about yourself, what you like and what you can offer. Take pics of yourself for your profile.
Narrow down your search and approach people that want similar things to you.
Develop a bit of a thick skin, try to be nice and positive.
Chip in on forums, be prepared to have your leg pulled.
Enjoy the Fab experience.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It’s probably nothing personal against you pal but if you notice on the most liked pictures a lot of women on here are getting hundreds of likes, suggesting their inboxes are probably bombarded with very similar messages all the time. Unless your message or profile stands out, the odds of a reply from a simple hello are quite slim |
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By *an1978Woman
over a year ago
GONE/TIMEOUT (No DMs please) |
Use the advanced search options to look for someone within reasonable distance for you, select to search people who are "looking for someone my age"
And the "willing to meet smokers"
At least then you're narrowing things down to people who might be interested.
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Yeah,I've found the same thing. Women are just swamped under thousands of messages so we don't stand out. I don't bother spending ages writing nice messages any more, I just look at the pretty pictures and won't renew my membership. |
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"listen josh i wouldnt worry about it,,
Nice one Dave, not really worried just curious why there all so shy haha "
Not shy, just probably not interested in you. I'm probably only interested in 0.5% of the men that message me which is fine as the men I do like, I enjoy their company. |
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"Yeah,I've found the same thing. Women are just swamped under thousands of messages so we don't stand out. I don't bother spending ages writing nice messages any more, I just look at the pretty pictures and won't renew my membership. "
I prefer the winking strategy. Just wink, if you get a wink back, start a meaningful conversation rather than "hey wana fuck?" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Gary hotdog doesn't help
Haha it's my alter ego, nah my name's josh I'm just worried someone might see me on here "
Surely they'd recognise your face anyway
Getting a verification might also help |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah,I've found the same thing. Women are just swamped under thousands of messages so we don't stand out. I don't bother spending ages writing nice messages any more, I just look at the pretty pictures and won't renew my membership. "
This |
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By *TG3Man
over a year ago
Dorchester |
"I'm only trying to have a conversation politely and no women ever reply haha " Well I'd say your advert isn't that great, your advert being your profile, you need to sell yourself, your one pic is you your face which is great but no info, remember you're competing with 1000s of guys on here and you can't assume a stranger would be interested in a sexual message straight off the bat be polite and inject some humour and you'll get replies |
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By *etro1940sCouple
over a year ago
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"Ask yourself OP would you reply to your message? Your profile? What you have to offer. Have you sold yourself in the best light?
All of these things matter.
And welcome to the forums.
If you press reply+quote we will know who you’re replying to " perfect reply: kind, firm and helpful |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd guess because the introduction doesn't inspire a conversation. "
^Here’s a reply.
Pat yourself on the back op.
Dude, come and talk to the guys, we don’t mind. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ask yourself OP would you reply to your message? Your profile? What you have to offer. Have you sold yourself in the best light?
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Also.
Op, ask yourself, the woman you’ve messaged, is she look like the type of person to reply to ANY message.
Some just are never going to reply. I said ‘some’. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I duno what to say other than hello haha "
That might be the problem mate , woman get hundreds of messages saying hello, best way to get their attention is to think outside the box , make it more Interesting, I read their profile and 9 out of 10 times there's something in there that can used as a conversation starter |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Gary hotdog doesn't help
Haha it's my alter ego, nah my name's josh I'm just worried someone might see me on here "
Well surely they'd recognise your face irrespective of have a pseudonym? Also saying haha in messages doesn't help |
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By *orny-DJMan
over a year ago
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The majority of people that you message will check out your profile before even considering looking at what you've sent them.
If it doesn't grab them, why would they bother reading or replying to a message from someone who holds no interest for them?
Then add to that the fact that many women are inundated.
If you got hundreds of messages every day, would ypu really reply 'no tganks' to all of them?
Do you really have that much time on your hands?
Of course not, you'd only invest time in forimng connections with those you are interested in |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Rule 1 and 2
Be hot
Don’t be not hot
Women don’t want a polite convo on a sex site with a guy they don’t think it hot
The forums lie about how important an opening message is. If you aren’t hot. Nothing you send matters |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Rule 1 and 2
Be hot
Don’t be not hot
Women don’t want a polite convo on a sex site with a guy they don’t think it hot
The forums lie about how important an opening message is. If you aren’t hot. Nothing you send matters "
Yep. Our lord and saviour is here to preach what all women want |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Rule 1 and 2
Be hot
Don’t be not hot
Women don’t want a polite convo on a sex site with a guy they don’t think it hot
The forums lie about how important an opening message is. If you aren’t hot. Nothing you send matters
Yep. Our lord and saviour is here to preach what all women want "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Rule 1 and 2
Be hot
Don’t be not hot
Women don’t want a polite convo on a sex site with a guy they don’t think it hot
The forums lie about how important an opening message is. If you aren’t hot. Nothing you send matters
Yep. Our lord and saviour is here to preach what all women want "
So easily ruffled
Maybe women don’t want attractive guys |
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I do have sympathy for the OP-it really isn’t easy to deal with the ruthlessness of the rejection at times, but the essence of the responses are correct: this is what fabs is and if you can’t deal with it, then maybe is isn’t for you. |
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