Got thinking today, does bullshit or negativity get called out the forums, I'm personally comfortable in doing so, but also having mine called out.
Ate you comfortable in calling out bullshit, especially if it comes from one of the more popular forumites...
How do you take bring challenged on the forums, is it mehhh its all good or fo you take it as a personal slight
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Calling stuff out is never the problem, the way in which it's done most of the time is. I don't call many things out but if I do, I like to think I see both sides before doing so and try to disagree in a way that doesn't belittle or demean. |
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"Calling stuff out is never the problem, the way in which it's done most of the time is. I don't call many things out but if I do, I like to think I see both sides before doing so and try to disagree in a way that doesn't belittle or demean."
Joe very diplomatic of you |
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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Little point most of the time as topics are so mute it's hardly worth reply, that or posters write something just to inflame a thread to never be seen for months. I don't like bullying or talking down to people though. There's ways to say things that has the same effect without the negative consequence, but again it much depends on the topic and shit talk. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I used to call it out a fair bit. Even if the poster was extremely popular or even had massive tits. Since coming back I don’t bother. I’ve got better things to be doing with my time. |
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"Calling stuff out is never the problem, the way in which it's done most of the time is. I don't call many things out but if I do, I like to think I see both sides before doing so and try to disagree in a way that doesn't belittle or demean.
Joe very diplomatic of you "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have had beer tonight. So fuck knows. I normally avoid those threads tbh. But I was snarky this morning 
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You sure was and all. Thought you bumped your head? Or no jam on your crumpet? Lol. |
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By *edeWoman
over a year ago
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I'm usually just meandering on and off the forums anyway so maybe don't pay enough attention to care. On the occasions I do notice something I don't bother calling it out as someone usually has already anyway and I can't be bothered with drama  |
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By *edeWoman
over a year ago
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"I have had beer tonight. So fuck knows. I normally avoid those threads tbh. But I was snarky this morning
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Please direct me to your snark!!! I simply won't believe it otherwise  |
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over a year ago
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"I have had beer tonight. So fuck knows. I normally avoid those threads tbh. But I was snarky this morning
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Please direct me to your snark!!! I simply won't believe it otherwise "
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Got thinking today, does bullshit or negativity get called out the forums, I'm personally comfortable in doing so, but also having mine called out.
Ate you comfortable in calling out bullshit, especially if it comes from one of the more popular forumites...
How do you take bring challenged on the forums, is it mehhh its all good or fo you take it as a personal slight
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I don’t think I’d call out general bullshit per se, people can use the forums how they want for fun - but I’d certainly challenge something that misaligned with my values (-isms) or that I thought was hurting someone. And I’d expect the same call out to me if I acted like that. |
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"I have had beer tonight. So fuck knows. I normally avoid those threads tbh. But I was snarky this morning
J
Please direct me to your snark!!! I simply won't believe it otherwise
I echo this "
Didn't happen. Figment of imagination. I am an angel. 
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"I have had beer tonight. So fuck knows. I normally avoid those threads tbh. But I was snarky this morning
J
Please direct me to your snark!!! I simply won't believe it otherwise
I echo this
Didn't happen. Figment of imagination. I am an angel.
J"
No no, show us the threads Pandora! |
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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I don't take it as a personal slight. I know I'm not one of the more popular forum users but yeah, I'm happy for it to be called out.
I think it's probably what Joe said above - it depends on how it's done. If it's someone curious about my viewpoint, challenges it without falling into fallacies (esp ad hominem crap) I'm all for it. I like having different viewpoints shown to me. I like the interaction.
And to be honest, I'm more likely to interact with someone who can do it kindly but firmly. If that makes sense. |
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By *mf123Man
over a year ago
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"I don't take it as a personal slight. I know I'm not one of the more popular forum users but yeah, I'm happy for it to be called out.
I think it's probably what Joe said above - it depends on how it's done. If it's someone curious about my viewpoint, challenges it without falling into fallacies (esp ad hominem crap) I'm all for it. I like having different viewpoints shown to me. I like the interaction.
And to be honest, I'm more likely to interact with someone who can do it kindly but firmly. If that makes sense."
not popular my arse your the thinker on the forum people like clever folks |
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By *aggonerMan
over a year ago
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I don’t know this “calling out”. Though it’s the second time I have encountered it in the past hour.
I say what it occurs to me to say at the time. If it doesn’t accord with the mood of the thread, so be it. I don’t go out of my way to be controversial. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is this the same as naming and shaming. Which is against site rules?……"
I think he meant calling out a viewpoint you don't agree with rather than the person themselves |
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over a year ago
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"Is this the same as naming and shaming. Which is against site rules?……
I think he meant calling out a viewpoint you don't agree with rather than the person themselves"
Oh, so just disagreeing? |
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It really does depend on what is classed as bullshit.
I'll call it out regardless of who says it and especially if I think the brown nosing or fanny blindness is out of control.
If it's something I don't have experience of and haven't a clue if it's bullshit or just a mad crazy fact that I have no knowledge of then I'll give it a miss.
I've been called out by other fabbers claiming my experiences are bullshit and yet when I look at their profile they weren't even born when it happened or have never set foot in this country.
I don't mind being called out of I say something moronic but get your facts straight before you challenge me on my own life experiences. |
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over a year ago
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"Is this the same as naming and shaming. Which is against site rules?……
I think he meant calling out a viewpoint you don't agree with rather than the person themselves
Oh, so just disagreeing? "
I guess both are applicable. Are the choice of words relevant to the question in the post? |
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By *mber81Woman
over a year ago
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I am not on the forums enough usually. I call people out in person a lot on some biggoted views. With randoms on the internet I usually don't. I don't always like that I don't call it out on the internet but I like some semblance of sanity in my life.
I love authenticity and honesty so if someone thinks I need called out I like when they do it clearly and fairly. |
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By *ustBoWoman
over a year ago
Somewhere in Co. Down |
I will say if I disagree with someone at times,other times I may delete what I'm going to say before I post because I think I can't be bothered or what's the point.
I'm not intimidated by so called popular forumites they are just people who post on here a lot.I've noticed over the years that people often pile on sticking for their forum buddies but won't pull the same people when on occasion they cross the line between giving an opinion and going on a personal attack on someone else.
I also have often seen that some people only support the ones they want to meet or fancy. And quite often will change their opinion depending on who is saying what.It can be quite amusing to watch. But sure that is the nature of fab I suppose.
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"Define bullshit.
Pretty much this constitutes bullshit. But then that's only my perspective....
So pretty much everything is bullshit unless you’ve said it?
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Is that really the stance that you're bringing that is like a 5-year-old arguing in a playground |
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"Is this the same as naming and shaming. Which is against site rules?……
I think he meant calling out a viewpoint you don't agree with rather than the person themselves
Oh, so just disagreeing?
I guess both are applicable. Are the choice of words relevant to the question in the post?"
Yea. Bullsshit is bullshit. A complete and utter lie.
Me disagreeing with you is simply that. We have a difference of opinion.
You think you are right, you’re not being deceptive or lying, it’s what you believe.
And I’m doing the same, so why would I call you out?
So the calling out thing is what???? |
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"Define bullshit.
Pretty much this constitutes bullshit. But then that's only my perspective....
So pretty much everything is bullshit unless you’ve said it?
Is that really the stance that you're bringing that is like a 5-year-old arguing in a playground"
Who is arguing?
By-the-way you ain’t allowed to play with my ball anymore
So-there. |
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"I have had beer tonight. So fuck knows. I normally avoid those threads tbh. But I was snarky this morning
J
Please direct me to your snark!!! I simply won't believe it otherwise
I echo this
Didn't happen. Figment of imagination. I am an angel.
J"
You definitely don't come across as snarky at all! Though I've been on the forums less so have you suddenly turned into a sassy sasspot?  |
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"Define bullshit.
Pretty much this constitutes bullshit. But then that's only my perspective....
So pretty much everything is bullshit unless you’ve said it?
Is that really the stance that you're bringing that is like a 5-year-old arguing in a playground
Who is arguing?
By-the-way you ain’t allowed to play with my ball anymore
So-there."
Your balls flat anyways so there  |
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"Is this the same as naming and shaming. Which is against site rules?……
I think he meant calling out a viewpoint you don't agree with rather than the person themselves"
I was more referring to the negativity that happens so often on here, for instance the vultures circling when, someone posts about struggling to get meets was more my stand point |
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"Define bullshit.
Pretty much this constitutes bullshit. But then that's only my perspective....
So pretty much everything is bullshit unless you’ve said it?
Is that really the stance that you're bringing that is like a 5-year-old arguing in a playground
Who is arguing?
By-the-way you ain’t allowed to play with my ball anymore
So-there.
Your balls flat anyways so there "
Only since you sat on them and bounced up and down!
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"Define bullshit.
Pretty much this constitutes bullshit. But then that's only my perspective....
So pretty much everything is bullshit unless you’ve said it?
Is that really the stance that you're bringing that is like a 5-year-old arguing in a playground
Who is arguing?
By-the-way you ain’t allowed to play with my ball anymore
So-there.
Your balls flat anyways so there
Only since you sat on them and bounced up and down!
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By the way I've hidden your marbles! |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"Define bullshit.
Pretty much this constitutes bullshit. But then that's only my perspective....
So pretty much everything is bullshit unless you’ve said it?
Is that really the stance that you're bringing that is like a 5-year-old arguing in a playground
Who is arguing?
By-the-way you ain’t allowed to play with my ball anymore
So-there.
Your balls flat anyways so there
Only since you sat on them and bounced up and down!
By the way I've hidden your marbles!"
I bet you were the scoundrel who stole my marbles from my school drawer in year 4 Primary school  |
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"Define bullshit.
Pretty much this constitutes bullshit. But then that's only my perspective....
So pretty much everything is bullshit unless you’ve said it?
Is that really the stance that you're bringing that is like a 5-year-old arguing in a playground
Who is arguing?
By-the-way you ain’t allowed to play with my ball anymore
So-there.
Your balls flat anyways so there
Only since you sat on them and bounced up and down!
By the way I've hidden your marbles!
I bet you were the scoundrel who stole my marbles from my school drawer in year 4 Primary school "
Since I'll own that, the ruler that went missing may or may not have also been me |
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"Is this the same as naming and shaming. Which is against site rules?……
I think he meant calling out a viewpoint you don't agree with rather than the person themselves
I was more referring to the negativity that happens so often on here, for instance the vultures circling when, someone posts about struggling to get meets was more my stand point "
Oh, calling out dickish behaviour? 
No. I don’t normally call it out. (Normally) because we can all be dicks sometimes. |
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"Is this the same as naming and shaming. Which is against site rules?……
I think he meant calling out a viewpoint you don't agree with rather than the person themselves
I was more referring to the negativity that happens so often on here, for instance the vultures circling when, someone posts about struggling to get meets was more my stand point
Oh, calling out dickish behaviour?
No. I don’t normally call it out. (Normally) because we can all be dicks sometimes. "
That we can be, guilty of it myself a couple of times a year |
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No I won't do it. That's what the mods are for, if someone is being hateful to someone else, I'll report it and let them deal with it. Not my place to be judge and jury on here.
As for popular fourmites, anyone can have their 5 minutes of fame on here, we all see the tide wash in and wash out people.
Do I like my point of view being debated... sure. I like seeing different points of view, as long as they can see others as well  |
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I'll call bullshit on the term 'popular', I feel it's more a 'prolific poster', recognised due to the amount of time and effort here, than actual popularity. |
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"I'll call bullshit on the term 'popular', I feel it's more a 'prolific poster', recognised due to the amount of time and effort here, than actual popularity. "
Thats not the case though is it, I see people who post as much or spend the same amount of time on the forums as one another. And there is definitely the more popular on here. |
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"I'll call bullshit on the term 'popular', I feel it's more a 'prolific poster', recognised due to the amount of time and effort here, than actual popularity. "
I was challenged by a woman here once who said she liked to chat with popular men like me.
I asked how she came to the conclusion that I was popular as I don't send messages, only receive one every couple of months and my pics get a handful of fabs at most?
She said it was because she saw me in the forums every day 
Some people confuse productivity with popularity. |
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"I'll call bullshit on the term 'popular', I feel it's more a 'prolific poster', recognised due to the amount of time and effort here, than actual popularity.
Thats not the case though is it, I see people who post as much or spend the same amount of time on the forums as one another. And there is definitely the more popular on here. "
See, that's what some believe to be a clique.
Though, what I initially posted is my viewpoint. |
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"I'll call bullshit on the term 'popular', I feel it's more a 'prolific poster', recognised due to the amount of time and effort here, than actual popularity.
I was challenged by a woman here once who said she liked to chat with popular men like me.
I asked how she came to the conclusion that I was popular as I don't send messages, only receive one every couple of months and my pics get a handful of fabs at most?
She said it was because she saw me in the forums every day
Some people confuse productivity with popularity."
Some confuse posting shit or I call it ‘shouting from the back of the class’ as popular.
I post shitloads some days! And I know I’m not popular. Ignored when sending messages is not popular. |
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"I'll call bullshit on the term 'popular', I feel it's more a 'prolific poster', recognised due to the amount of time and effort here, than actual popularity.
Thats not the case though is it, I see people who post as much or spend the same amount of time on the forums as one another. And there is definitely the more popular on here.
See, that's what some believe to be a clique.
Though, what I initially posted is my viewpoint. "
Some may believe it to be a clique that's there pergrotive, what I'm asking is if people call out shitty behaviour, and are they comfortable in doing so to a perceived "popular user". |
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Who cares about popularity x We’re grown ass adults. Take me as you find me. I see anything that occurs on the internet that I don’t like as dog mess on the pavement …step over it and keep walking.  Mrs |
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"I'll call bullshit on the term 'popular', I feel it's more a 'prolific poster', recognised due to the amount of time and effort here, than actual popularity.
Thats not the case though is it, I see people who post as much or spend the same amount of time on the forums as one another. And there is definitely the more popular on here.
See, that's what some believe to be a clique.
Though, what I initially posted is my viewpoint.
Some may believe it to be a clique that's there pergrotive, what I'm asking is if people call out shitty behaviour, and are they comfortable in doing so to a perceived "popular user". "
If I see what I believe to be shitty behaviour, yes I'm happy to speak up.
I'm not sure who is perceived as 'popular', that was kind of what I was getting at, my perspective differs.
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If someone calls out bullshit with some justification: A logically valid claim, or at least a coherent rationale - no problem. If it's just one upmanship then go bark elsewhere little doggy. 
I think you can challenge without being disrespectful. And it's more likely to be received by the other person if you do.
Zero shits, bull or otherwise, given about popularity. |
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Hahimg unwisely expressed one or two viwes, I am sticking to only cake, what's for dinner, holiday and similar threads from now on personally as to be fair I will discuss serious matters with my family and friends only as often things here are misconstrued. Whilst I must stress there are plenty of great amazing and caring people on here (and had several experiences of that), there are those who thrive on argument (not opinion), twist things that others may say just to start something, start controversial threads and then disappear without even offering their own opinions, only reply to their 'friends' even though someone else said the same thing before, are ready to attack someone new who may not be familiar with the rules, are condescending if others can't express themselves as eloquently, show an air of superiority towards others, especially if they are established forumites and in so called clicks of the untouchables, are sycophants, hide behind the anonymity of a forum to express views that quite frankly are unacceptable and outside expected norms or show lack of compassion towards others and the circumstances they find themselves in. The moment I see any of that, I never go back to read those threads even if someone has replied to any of my posts. They can argue among themselves. I have no interest in that and life is hard enough without affording that kind of people anybof my time. Similarly I am now out of this thread as I have no doubt someone will find some offence in it, including the length of the post as someone actually did say when I previously posted a similarly long one. The only consolation is that thise behaving in this manner, all they do is just exposing their true character to the rest of us. |
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"kindly but firmly. If that makes sense.
Ooft! 
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Ha! I was wondering if someone would notice that. Always the best way to handle things, isn't it?  "
I'm sure there have been all sorts of sensible posts but the cutest girl had been flirting with me tonight in a way I've never noticed before. And I've just come back into this thread to be firm with Meli. Whoop whoop.
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"There are a lot of MORONS here.
The last time I called a moron a moron. they snowflaked me, complained and I got banned for a week.
So can't be bothered any more."
How do you know they made the complaint?
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over a year ago
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"Is this the same as naming and shaming. Which is against site rules?……
*Insert sideways glance meme
One for stevy pickle.
** he knows. "
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‘I know’ |
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By *mf123Man
over a year ago
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"There are a lot of MORONS here.
The last time I called a moron a moron. they snowflaked me, complained and I got banned for a week.
So can't be bothered any more."
easier to call em a maroon like bugs does |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Have we worked out what bullshit means yet? In my mind it's a made up story. (and so I wonder if gbsi comes from a previous set of threads)
Or is it bad behaviour... Outside of some circumstances, that's hard to call... But can be challenged.
Or iss this just a self congratulating thread for being a great person and standing up to the popular kids ? Hey fab, i do the right thing. Do you or am I better than you?
(Hey wait, have I just tried to call out bullshit? How did I do ?  ) |
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By *r_PinkMan
over a year ago
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"There are a lot of MORONS here.
The last time I called a moron a moron. they snowflaked me, complained and I got banned for a week.
So can't be bothered any more.
How do you know they made the complaint?
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"Hahimg unwisely expressed one or two viwes, I am sticking to only cake, what's for dinner, holiday and similar threads from now on personally as to be fair I will discuss serious matters with my family and friends only as often things here are misconstrued. Whilst I must stress there are plenty of great amazing and caring people on here (and had several experiences of that), there are those who thrive on argument (not opinion), twist things that others may say just to start something, start controversial threads and then disappear without even offering their own opinions, only reply to their 'friends' even though someone else said the same thing before, are ready to attack someone new who may not be familiar with the rules, are condescending if others can't express themselves as eloquently, show an air of superiority towards others, especially if they are established forumites and in so called clicks of the untouchables, are sycophants, hide behind the anonymity of a forum to express views that quite frankly are unacceptable and outside expected norms or show lack of compassion towards others and the circumstances they find themselves in. The moment I see any of that, I never go back to read those threads even if someone has replied to any of my posts. They can argue among themselves. I have no interest in that and life is hard enough without affording that kind of people anybof my time. Similarly I am now out of this thread as I have no doubt someone will find some offence in it, including the length of the post as someone actually did say when I previously posted a similarly long one. The only consolation is that thise behaving in this manner, all they do is just exposing their true character to the rest of us. "
Someone got pissed at you for making a long post?  |
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"Got thinking today, does bullshit or negativity get called out the forums, I'm personally comfortable in doing so, but also having mine called out.
Ate you comfortable in calling out bullshit, especially if it comes from one of the more popular forumites...
How do you take bring challenged on the forums, is it mehhh its all good or fo you take it as a personal slight
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I don’t take anything personally from fab. It’s just comical entertainment I see it as . |
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