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"I take people as I find them, regardless of who they are and where they are from... Mrs" That's wonderful, I feel all warm & emotional now. Obviously we get the bad travellers down here. | |||
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"I take people as I find them, regardless of who they are and where they are from... Mrs That's wonderful, I feel all warm & emotional now. Obviously we get the bad travellers down here. " Here's a tissue to dry your eyes... 
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"I like how they're all rather adept at reading tea leaves." I think they are all tea leafs. | |||
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"I like how they're all rather adept at reading tea leaves. I think they are all tea leafs. " Well a fair few have an unusual way of sourcing building materials | |||
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"I take people as I find them, regardless of who they are and where they are from... Mrs" This! Any that have been near us have been great in my experience, especially in the pubs. Kids play with the other kids, the old fellas are funny and when they camped on my old jobs car park they were a good chat and kept to themselves. I like anybody if they're polite to people | |||
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"I take people as I find them, regardless of who they are and where they are from... Mrs This! Any that have been near us have been great in my experience, especially in the pubs. Kids play with the other kids, the old fellas are funny and when they camped on my old jobs car park they were a good chat and kept to themselves. I like anybody if they're polite to people" Exactly  | |||
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"My experience of living close to some Irish travellers is that they’re inconsiderate, terrible neighbours and generally unpleasant. I also live near several travelling showmen families. They’re entirely different. No trouble, lovely and a world away from the others. " Absolutely spot on.Never ever had a good experience of travellers.Showmen/fairground families different stories,as are the horse drawn gypsies,getting a rarity now. | |||
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"I take people as I find them, regardless of who they are and where they are from... Mrs This! Any that have been near us have been great in my experience, especially in the pubs. Kids play with the other kids, the old fellas are funny and when they camped on my old jobs car park they were a good chat and kept to themselves. I like anybody if they're polite to people Exactly "A micro society of inc3stuous pederastic vicious ignorant lying theiving unhygienic.......  | |||
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"I take people as I find them, regardless of who they are and where they are from... Mrs This! Any that have been near us have been great in my experience, especially in the pubs. Kids play with the other kids, the old fellas are funny and when they camped on my old jobs car park they were a good chat and kept to themselves. I like anybody if they're polite to people" This!! Take people as you find them. I’ve met many travellers and they’re always friendly chatty and polite | |||
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"What are your views on them. Personally I think they do get discriminated against because of the reputation. But like all races their are good and bad" Are they a different race? Or simply a desire to live in a different way, go back far enough and we are all travelers, go back even further and most of us are a different colour, but that’s a thread for a different time there’s already too much shouting on here | |||
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"What are your views on them. Personally I think they do get discriminated against because of the reputation. But like all races their are good and bad Are they a different race? Or simply a desire to live in a different way, go back far enough and we are all travelers, go back even further and most of us are a different colour, but that’s a thread for a different time there’s already too much shouting on here " They do claim to be a ethnic group. | |||
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"Happy to take anyone to Appleby and introduce you to the real people. " No ty I'd rather not | |||
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"I take people as I find them, regardless of who they are and where they are from... Mrs This! Any that have been near us have been great in my experience, especially in the pubs. Kids play with the other kids, the old fellas are funny and when they camped on my old jobs car park they were a good chat and kept to themselves. I like anybody if they're polite to people This!! Take people as you find them. I’ve met many travellers and they’re always friendly chatty and polite " To lure you into a false sense of security.makes it easier to take advantage of you.You are a "gorga",you live in a house have a normal life,not one of them,stealing from you is not a crime because you are a gorga.you exist to provide a living for them .How much council tax do they pay for the public services they receive?how much income tax do they pay on their driveway/gardening/tree surgery enterprises?how much does it cost the council to clear up their fly tipping?Set up a campsite,the council immediately set up portaloos and commercial wheelie bins.Yes they do,Matlock railway station car park,Ashbourne doctor's surgery car park. | |||
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"I take people as I find them, regardless of who they are and where they are from... Mrs This! Any that have been near us have been great in my experience, especially in the pubs. Kids play with the other kids, the old fellas are funny and when they camped on my old jobs car park they were a good chat and kept to themselves. I like anybody if they're polite to people This!! Take people as you find them. I’ve met many travellers and they’re always friendly chatty and polite " Yup, never had any issues with the numerous travellers I've met over the years Mrs | |||
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"I take people as I find them, regardless of who they are and where they are from... Mrs This! Any that have been near us have been great in my experience, especially in the pubs. Kids play with the other kids, the old fellas are funny and when they camped on my old jobs car park they were a good chat and kept to themselves. I like anybody if they're polite to people This!! Take people as you find them. I’ve met many travellers and they’re always friendly chatty and polite To lure you into a false sense of security.makes it easier to take advantage of you.You are a "gorga",you live in a house have a normal life,not one of them,stealing from you is not a crime because you are a gorga.you exist to provide a living for them .How much council tax do they pay for the public services they receive?how much income tax do they pay on their driveway/gardening/tree surgery enterprises?how much does it cost the council to clear up their fly tipping?Set up a campsite,the council immediately set up portaloos and commercial wheelie bins.Yes they do,Matlock railway station car park,Ashbourne doctor's surgery car park." Gorga Gouger. It's gouger and that's what they call people who don't pander to them. | |||
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"What are your views on them. Personally I think they do get discriminated against because of the reputation. But like all races their are good and bad Are they a different race? Or simply a desire to live in a different way, go back far enough and we are all travelers, go back even further and most of us are a different colour, but that’s a thread for a different time there’s already too much shouting on here They do claim to be a ethnic group." They are. So let's just gas them, nobody would feel like complaining then and they could go back to worrying about house prices, immigrants, other poor people amd thevweather. Job done.  | |||
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"I take people as I find them, regardless of who they are and where they are from... Mrs This! Any that have been near us have been great in my experience, especially in the pubs. Kids play with the other kids, the old fellas are funny and when they camped on my old jobs car park they were a good chat and kept to themselves. I like anybody if they're polite to people This!! Take people as you find them. I’ve met many travellers and they’re always friendly chatty and polite To lure you into a false sense of security.makes it easier to take advantage of you.You are a "gorga",you live in a house have a normal life,not one of them,stealing from you is not a crime because you are a gorga.you exist to provide a living for them .How much council tax do they pay for the public services they receive?how much income tax do they pay on their driveway/gardening/tree surgery enterprises?how much does it cost the council to clear up their fly tipping?Set up a campsite,the council immediately set up portaloos and commercial wheelie bins.Yes they do,Matlock railway station car park,Ashbourne doctor's surgery car park. Gorga Gouger. It's gouger and that's what they call people who don't pander to them. " I was told by a traveller it's gorga and it means someone who lives in a house/is settled | |||
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" They do claim to be a ethnic group. They are. So let's just gas them, nobody would feel like complaining then and they could go back to worrying about house prices, immigrants, other poor people amd thevweather. Job done. "Bit harsh but I guess you're just being in keeping with Stalin. You know they say Marxist dictators body count if you add em all up, Lenin, Stalin, pol pot, mao, that north Korean dingbat, exceeds the 250 million mark? | |||
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"I take people as I find them, regardless of who they are and where they are from... Mrs This! Any that have been near us have been great in my experience, especially in the pubs. Kids play with the other kids, the old fellas are funny and when they camped on my old jobs car park they were a good chat and kept to themselves. I like anybody if they're polite to people This!! Take people as you find them. I’ve met many travellers and they’re always friendly chatty and polite To lure you into a false sense of security.makes it easier to take advantage of you.You are a "gorga",you live in a house have a normal life,not one of them,stealing from you is not a crime because you are a gorga.you exist to provide a living for them .How much council tax do they pay for the public services they receive?how much income tax do they pay on their driveway/gardening/tree surgery enterprises?how much does it cost the council to clear up their fly tipping?Set up a campsite,the council immediately set up portaloos and commercial wheelie bins.Yes they do,Matlock railway station car park,Ashbourne doctor's surgery car park. Gorga Gouger. It's gouger and that's what they call people who don't pander to them. I was told by a traveller it's gorga and it means someone who lives in a house/is settled" It's their accent, it's gouger like someone who doesn't fight fair. | |||
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"What are your views on them. Personally I think they do get discriminated against because of the reputation. But like all races their are good and bad Are they a different race? Or simply a desire to live in a different way, go back far enough and we are all travelers, go back even further and most of us are a different colour, but that’s a thread for a different time there’s already too much shouting on here They do claim to be a ethnic group. They are. So let's just gas them, nobody would feel like complaining then and they could go back to worrying about house prices, immigrants, other poor people amd thevweather. Job done. "How silly.most people would settle for the law being applied equally.if they commit a crime,bust 'em.if they behave like the rest of us do,no problem. | |||
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"Coming from and living in rural Ireland I have to be honest and say that my experience of travellers has been mostly negative. Obviously you try not to generalise or stereotype people but you can only go of your lived experiences " Never thought I'd see meself agreeing with someone from the old emerald Isle.  | |||
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"Coming from and living in rural Ireland I have to be honest and say that my experience of travellers has been mostly negative. Obviously you try not to generalise or stereotype people but you can only go of your lived experiences " Sadly your real lived experience will be totally ignored in the rush to brand you as racist | |||
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"Coming from and living in rural Ireland I have to be honest and say that my experience of travellers has been mostly negative. Obviously you try not to generalise or stereotype people but you can only go of your lived experiences " I have a friend who is a teacher in a rural part of Ireland..a number of her students are travellers. Whilst having sympathy for the discrimination that the kids face, she also couldn't deny the fact that they caused a lot of trouble and were a fucking nightmare to deal with. | |||
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" They do claim to be a ethnic group. They are. So let's just gas them, nobody would feel like complaining then and they could go back to worrying about house prices, immigrants, other poor people amd thevweather. Job done.
Bit harsh but I guess you're just being in keeping with Stalin.
You know they say Marxist dictators body count if you add em all up, Lenin, Stalin, pol pot, mao, that north Korean dingbat, exceeds the 250 million mark? "I was being satirical. Sorry I had to point it out Oh. And Stalin wasn't a Marxist( he executed quite a few of them you know,and neither was Pol Pot. The North Korean dingbat is just an authoritarian yob.its notbha4d to see he has no relation to Marxism. Next you'll be telling me Jeremy Corbyn is a terrorist loving Marxist.. | |||
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"Ones I've come across and I really don't like to generalise are not good imo and the police are mainly scared of getting involved tbh! X" Travellers moved into a closed factory site next to where I worked they stole five bikes mine was couple of months old and cost me £700. We called the police and when they turned up they told me to claim on my insurance as they wouldn’t go onto the site to even look. | |||
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"What are your views on them. Personally I think they do get discriminated against because of the reputation. But like all races their are good and bad Are they a different race? Or simply a desire to live in a different way, go back far enough and we are all travelers, go back even further and most of us are a different colour, but that’s a thread for a different time there’s already too much shouting on here " Too much shouting? Poor you. People are mixing up 3 different things. 1. GYPSY'S, tinkers etc, people that roamed doing seasonal agricultural work & making stuff to sell at the road side. 2. SHOWMAN etc, hard working decent but shrewd fair ground people. 3. TRAVELLERS, these let the above down, violent, dishonest & arrogant. Will cohesrse, bl@ckmail & bully at will, break into land & leave an absolute mess after vandalism to steal any copper/lead etc. | |||
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" They do claim to be a ethnic group. They are. So let's just gas them, nobody would feel like complaining then and they could go back to worrying about house prices, immigrants, other poor people amd thevweather. Job done.
Bit harsh but I guess you're just being in keeping with Stalin.
You know they say Marxist dictators body count if you add em all up, Lenin, Stalin, pol pot, mao, that north Korean dingbat, exceeds the 250 million mark?
I was being satirical. Sorry I had to point it out
Oh. And Stalin wasn't a Marxist( he executed quite a few of them you know,and neither was Pol Pot.
The North Korean dingbat is just an authoritarian yob.its notbha4d to see he has no relation to Marxism.
Next you'll be telling me Jeremy Corbyn is a terrorist loving Marxist.."Can someone translate please, he's off on one again. | |||
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"In my line of work I encounter them all the time and have to deal with the mess they leave, the trouble they cause, and the disregard for anyone but themselves. So I have no positive view of them." Totally agree with this! Anyone whos all happy clappy about them have obviously never encountered them. | |||
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"We take people as we find them, regardless of background and beliefs! Good and bad in every community and wrong to generalise on a complete society of people. Let's face if you went to an area in the county that had a high proportion indian or black people and was unlucky enough to get mugged, you wouldn't then say that all indians or blacks was bad people! Or would you... Be nice to hear from some gypsy/travellers on the forum, if there's any on here... And best wishes and happy fabbing to them if there is! X" The bleeding heart niavity is very apparent, in any other walk of life I,d say take as you find but not with travellers. These people choose to live as they do, I really cannot see any correlation with skin colour or area predominantly Black or Asian. Even the Police are weary of them & won't enter a site alone. I honestly hope you don't experience them as so many do but they'll be so pleased to meet you. | |||
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"Let's face if you went to an area in the county that had a high proportion indian or black people and was unlucky enough to get mugged, you wouldn't then say that all indians or blacks was bad people! Or would you... " 
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"We take people as we find them, regardless of background and beliefs! Good and bad in every community and wrong to generalise on a complete society of people. Let's face if you went to an area in the county that had a high proportion indian or black people and was unlucky enough to get mugged, you wouldn't then say that all indians or blacks was bad people! Or would you... Be nice to hear from some gypsy/travellers on the forum, if there's any on here... And best wishes and happy fabbing to them if there is! X" By the way I agree. I think generally they are possibly the the most demonised group in our society. It’s difficult because so many people share valid lived experiences but also having worked with and spoken to people from traveler communities it’s clear the way that stereotypes and generalisations have impacted them. I think people with negative experiences are fair to be wary but not fair to apply their experiences to the entire group. | |||
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"Ones I've come across and I really don't like to generalise are not good imo and the police are mainly scared of getting involved tbh! X Travellers moved into a closed factory site next to where I worked they stole five bikes mine was couple of months old and cost me £700. We called the police and when they turned up they told me to claim on my insurance as they wouldn’t go onto the site to even look. " Sounds about right! X | |||
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"They are a scourge on decent people." • Some gypsies are decent people.  | |||
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"They are discriminated against. That's just fact." Ever wonder why? | |||
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"When they've been in a group or campsite they've lived up to every stereotype. Dirty, thieving scum. When a few came to the boxing club I had they were dead on. They're another group that lefties tend to ignore the vile sexist, misogynistic behaviour though. " Some showed up to a gym in Stoke, got offered the free trial session, tried nick a load of focus pads and gloves after. | |||
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"When they've been in a group or campsite they've lived up to every stereotype. Dirty, thieving scum. When a few came to the boxing club I had they were dead on. They're another group that lefties tend to ignore the vile sexist, misogynistic behaviour though. Some showed up to a gym in Stoke, got offered the free trial session, tried nick a load of focus pads and gloves after. "That's what I thought would happen if I'm honest but it didn't. They seemed genuinely decent people and behaved and did as they were asked. | |||
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"They are discriminated against. That's just fact." Yes and they deserve to be because of the way they behave. | |||
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"They are a scourge on decent people. • Some gypsies are decent people. "Have you met any I haven't | |||
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"They are a scourge on decent people. • Some gypsies are decent people.
Have you met any I haven't "Could you be loving a very sheltered life ? Some of the best people I know are English Roma gypsies | |||
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"What I think they do get discriminated against because of the reputation. But like all races their are good and bad" The two sets of travellers that we had on our local playground/ junior football team pitch well and truly deserved the reputation. Driving cars on playing fields , feces and mountains of rubbish left on playground, several dog attacks etc. Increased burglaries in the area ( although can't prove this was them as no one was caught, the crime was constant and a marked increase whilst they were there, could just be local criminals taking advantage of the scapegoat) | |||
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"Come on FAB pull this down, but here we are again the most discriminated people on the planet! This is out of order now after reading some of these comments " Agreed totally uncalled for! X | |||
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"Come on FAB pull this down, but here we are again the most discriminated people on the planet! This is out of order now after reading some of these comments Agreed totally uncalled for! X" Come on mods pull it please it’s offensive | |||
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"Come on FAB pull this down, but here we are again the most discriminated people on the planet! This is out of order now after reading some of these comments " The problem that you have is there is not many who encounter you who have had a positive experience. You are set apart from the rest of society because that's what you choose to do. My personal experience of you traveller's have been negative. Like I said my recent job and a previous one was clearing up the mess you leave behind you. Frankly I cannot even conceive of you ever genuinely being in this lifestyle, unless it is sto gain access or information to ones property, and I would not trust a traveller further than I can spit. Where I used to hack out one of the fields we used was camped on. When they left the mess was indescribable. You are disliked fir a reason. Pay the price for the life you want to lead. | |||
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"They are a scourge on decent people. • Some gypsies are decent people.
Have you met any I haven't "In your job you are dealing with literal criminals, have you considered this may have influenced your views? In my job the traveller clients we had, despite appearing rough, were in fact more respectful and less entitled than many of our middle class clientele. | |||
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"They are a scourge on decent people. • Some gypsies are decent people.
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In your job you are dealing with literal criminals, have you considered this may have influenced your views? In my job the traveller clients we had, despite appearing rough, were in fact more respectful and less entitled than many of our middle class clientele." | |||
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"They are a scourge on decent people. • Some gypsies are decent people.
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In your job you are dealing with literal criminals, have you considered this may have influenced your views? In my job the traveller clients we had, despite appearing rough, were in fact more respectful and less entitled than many of our middle class clientele."Well if you mean burnt out caravans dragged on a road outside a travellers site set alight and rubbish flytipped and my passing by my local green seeing your campsites when you leave and mounds of rubbish and the crime wave that hits while you are there. Like some on here I always gave you the benefit of the doubt. Ut seeing your behavior first hand at work and when I used to ride and just recently a traveller camp I can assure you that I have yer to see a single positive action. You operate outside the rest of us behave how you want and terrorise wherever you go. The day I see you leave a campsite in good order, you behave n the area you live in. And treat outsiders with decency I will change my view. Until then my stance bases on my first hand observation remains unchanged. I would also question any traveller who was into this lifestyle. I cannot conceive of you doing it without ulterior motive. Travellers do not ever mix outside their communities | |||
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"They are a scourge on decent people. • Some gypsies are decent people.
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In your job you are dealing with literal criminals, have you considered this may have influenced your views? In my job the traveller clients we had, despite appearing rough, were in fact more respectful and less entitled than many of our middle class clientele."You also mention the words clients. If a traveller wants something to his her her ad advantage they will be as nice as pie. But that won't stop them stealing the oxygen around you of they cab sell it. I call it as I see it | |||
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"They are a scourge on decent people. • Some gypsies are decent people.
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In your job you are dealing with literal criminals, have you considered this may have influenced your views? In my job the traveller clients we had, despite appearing rough, were in fact more respectful and less entitled than many of our middle class clientele.
You also mention the words clients. If a traveller wants something to his her her ad advantage they will be as nice as pie. But that won't stop them stealing the oxygen around you of they cab sell it.
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"I’ve seen perfectly normal threads be removed for a few jokes that might be in bad taste but blatant discrimination like this is allowed. I’ll never understand the rules of the forums "Absolutely! | |||
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"We take people as we find them, regardless of background and beliefs! Good and bad in every community and wrong to generalise on a complete society of people. Let's face if you went to an area in the county that had a high proportion indian or black people and was unlucky enough to get mugged, you wouldn't then say that all indians or blacks was bad people! Or would you... Be nice to hear from some gypsy/travellers on the forum, if there's any on here... And best wishes and happy fabbing to them if there is! X By the way I agree. I think generally they are possibly the the most demonised group in our society. It’s difficult because so many people share valid lived experiences but also having worked with and spoken to people from traveler communities it’s clear the way that stereotypes and generalisations have impacted them. I think people with negative experiences are fair to be wary but not fair to apply their experiences to the entire group. " Then it's up to them to sort the bad behaviour in their community. Change the behaviour change the perception. | |||
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