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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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in this land.... No
how other countries enforce their laws, up to them as long as they are transparent & fairly enforced to ensure visitors understand any consequences if they CHOOSE to ignore or break them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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previous post:
anyone should know better...however...I still sit and think of the corruption of many of these types of countries...there are those in power that have done so much more wrongs, and will never be accountable for the horrific things they have done)or paid to have done).
Then there is the spectacle of how they execute
The people around the world that sit at the top of the social spectrum arent that much different when it comes to crime(drugs,prostitution,slavery,violations of human rights)..they just get away with it. |
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"in this land.... No
how other countries enforce their laws, up to them as long as they are transparent & fairly enforced to ensure visitors understand any consequences if they CHOOSE to ignore or break them."
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"A simple yes or no!
should drug dealers face the death sentence?"
So those prescription painkillers you had for your back ache, your best mates got toothache, here have some of these, take the pain away. Let's face it, we've all done it at some point. Against the law, punishable under drug dealing. Willing to die to help a mate out? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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In this country no not after reading about the 24-year career, Albert Pierrepoint who executed 435 people including Ruth Ellis, Lord Haw-Haw and Timothy Evens. He later became a fierce opponent of the death penalty
Pierrepoint wrote in his autobiography: " All the men and women whom I have faced at that final moment convince me that in what I have done I have not prevented a single murder. And if death does not work to deter one person, it should not be held to deter any ... capital punishment, in my _iew, achieved nothing except revenge." |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no life and i mean life non of this out after 15 years shit life as in die in prison "
I also disagree with this concept. A whole life sentence is as good as a death sentence. |
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"In this country no not after reading about the 24-year career, Albert Pierrepoint who executed 435 people including Ruth Ellis, Lord Haw-Haw and Timothy Evens. He later became a fierce opponent of the death penalty
Pierrepoint wrote in his autobiography: " All the men and women whom I have faced at that final moment convince me that in what I have done I have not prevented a single murder. And if death does not work to deter one person, it should not be held to deter any ... capital punishment, in my _iew, achieved nothing except revenge.""
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"no life and i mean life non of this out after 15 years shit life as in die in prison
I also disagree with this concept. A whole life sentence is as good as a death sentence."
Did you see that old guy in the Trevor McDonald inter_iew the other day? He got his death sentence taken away, and instead was given a 150 year incarceration. He will die in prison, but he preferred knowing he will die naturally, rather then at the hands of another. |
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"A simple yes or no!
should drug dealers face the death sentence?
No. Nor anyone else. No death penalty, ever."
agree, its barbaric and the system occasionally gets it wrong without it being the ultimate penalty.... |
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"A simple yes or no!
should drug dealers face the death sentence?
So those prescription painkillers you had for your back ache, your best mates got toothache, here have some of these, take the pain away. Let's face it, we've all done it at some point. Against the law, punishable under drug dealing. Willing to die to help a mate out?"
no offence meant, but what a pathetic reply |
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"A simple yes or no!
should drug dealers face the death sentence?
So those prescription painkillers you had for your back ache, your best mates got toothache, here have some of these, take the pain away. Let's face it, we've all done it at some point. Against the law, punishable under drug dealing. Willing to die to help a mate out?
no offence meant, but what a pathetic reply"
Oh I'm sorry, I'll stick to what you asked in your op. Like a good girl.
No. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"no life and i mean life non of this out after 15 years shit life as in die in prison
I also disagree with this concept. A whole life sentence is as good as a death sentence.
Did you see that old guy in the Trevor McDonald inter_iew the other day? He got his death sentence taken away, and instead was given a 150 year incarceration. He will die in prison, but he preferred knowing he will die naturally, rather then at the hands of another."
Didn't see that, but given the choice between being killed in a potentially painful way on the whim of someone else and living a dull, empty life in a cage I think I'd take the latter too. Were his family invited to comment? |
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"no life and i mean life non of this out after 15 years shit life as in die in prison
I also disagree with this concept. A whole life sentence is as good as a death sentence.
Did you see that old guy in the Trevor McDonald inter_iew the other day? He got his death sentence taken away, and instead was given a 150 year incarceration. He will die in prison, but he preferred knowing he will die naturally, rather then at the hands of another.
Didn't see that, but given the choice between being killed in a potentially painful way on the whim of someone else and living a dull, empty life in a cage I think I'd take the latter too. Were his family invited to comment?"
No they weren't. It was a fascinating programme, 'Inside Death Row'. Worth a watch. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Drug dealers-no
Rapists, murderers, pedos, mps-yes.
I don't have a problem with people smoking round me or doing whatever. As long as it's not smack or they're going loco, it's not my business |
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By (user no longer on site)
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For dealers of the nastier, more destructive drugs like heroin, alcohol, crack, meth etc the sentences should be much heavier, but not the death penalty. Some of the soft drugs need re-classifying or decriminalising. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"For dealers of the nastier, more destructive drugs like heroin, alcohol, crack, meth etc the sentences should be much heavier, but not the death penalty. Some of the soft drugs need re-classifying or decriminalising."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Drug dealers-no
Rapists, murderers, pedos, mps-yes.
I don't have a problem with people smoking round me or doing whatever. As long as it's not smack or they're going loco, it's not my business"
What happens when someone gets wrongly convicted of murder, and is executed before the error is discovered? |
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"Drug dealers-no
Rapists, murderers, pedos, mps-yes.
I don't have a problem with people smoking round me or doing whatever. As long as it's not smack or they're going loco, it's not my business
What happens when someone gets wrongly convicted of murder, and is executed before the error is discovered?"
Then that's the fuck up of the court. And If they were convicted and sentenced then that's gotta be grounds for it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Drug dealers-no
Rapists, murderers, pedos, mps-yes.
I don't have a problem with people smoking round me or doing whatever. As long as it's not smack or they're going loco, it's not my business
What happens when someone gets wrongly convicted of murder, and is executed before the error is discovered? Then that's the fuck up of the court. And If they were convicted and sentenced then that's gotta be grounds for it "
Grounds for what? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Drug dealers-no
Rapists, murderers, pedos, mps-yes.
I don't have a problem with people smoking round me or doing whatever. As long as it's not smack or they're going loco, it's not my business
What happens when someone gets wrongly convicted of murder, and is executed before the error is discovered? Then that's the fuck up of the court. And If they were convicted and sentenced then that's gotta be grounds for it
Grounds for what?"
Grounds for the conviction. There has to be evidence. |
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By *almh5Couple
over a year ago
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Well I'm glad to see there have obviously been no miscarrieges of justice in this country, particularly the ones where the police have decided who is guilty and manipulate the evidence to convict the person. |
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Evidence can be planted, evidence can be tainted, judges and juries can be bought.
While conviction by human judgement is the norm, there will always be fuck ups. That is the nature of human judgement. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Drug dealers-no
Rapists, murderers, pedos, mps-yes.
I don't have a problem with people smoking round me or doing whatever. As long as it's not smack or they're going loco, it's not my business
What happens when someone gets wrongly convicted of murder, and is executed before the error is discovered? Then that's the fuck up of the court. And If they were convicted and sentenced then that's gotta be grounds for it
Grounds for what?
Grounds for the conviction. There has to be evidence."
But that's the whole point. Evidence doesn't necessarily mean proof. If you honestly believe nobody has ever been wrongly convicted of murder, child sex offences or rape, I'd suggest you're far too trusting of the British legal system. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Drug dealers-no
Rapists, murderers, pedos, mps-yes.
I don't have a problem with people smoking round me or doing whatever. As long as it's not smack or they're going loco, it's not my business
What happens when someone gets wrongly convicted of murder, and is executed before the error is discovered? Then that's the fuck up of the court. And If they were convicted and sentenced then that's gotta be grounds for it
Grounds for what?
Grounds for the conviction. There has to be evidence.
But that's the whole point. Evidence doesn't necessarily mean proof. If you honestly believe nobody has ever been wrongly convicted of murder, child sex offences or rape, I'd suggest you're far too trusting of the British legal system."
I know it's happened in the past. I wouldn't trust anything the government says/does. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Drug dealers-no
Rapists, murderers, pedos, mps-yes.
I don't have a problem with people smoking round me or doing whatever. As long as it's not smack or they're going loco, it's not my business
What happens when someone gets wrongly convicted of murder, and is executed before the error is discovered? Then that's the fuck up of the court. And If they were convicted and sentenced then that's gotta be grounds for it
Grounds for what?
Grounds for the conviction. There has to be evidence.
But that's the whole point. Evidence doesn't necessarily mean proof. If you honestly believe nobody has ever been wrongly convicted of murder, child sex offences or rape, I'd suggest you're far too trusting of the British legal system.
I know it's happened in the past. I wouldn't trust anything the government says/does. "
But you'd be happy for them to start slaughtering people upon conviction? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Drug dealers-no
Rapists, murderers, pedos, mps-yes.
I don't have a problem with people smoking round me or doing whatever. As long as it's not smack or they're going loco, it's not my business
What happens when someone gets wrongly convicted of murder, and is executed before the error is discovered? Then that's the fuck up of the court. And If they were convicted and sentenced then that's gotta be grounds for it
Grounds for what?
Grounds for the conviction. There has to be evidence.
But that's the whole point. Evidence doesn't necessarily mean proof. If you honestly believe nobody has ever been wrongly convicted of murder, child sex offences or rape, I'd suggest you're far too trusting of the British legal system.
I know it's happened in the past. I wouldn't trust anything the government says/does.
But you'd be happy for them to start slaughtering people upon conviction?"
If there was a way to have absolute proof (unlikely) then yes.
This whole thing's hypothetical anyways. Not like it's going to happen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Taking out the emotional argument regards the right or wrongs of the death penalty ……
Without radical changes to the UK legal systems where it is still necessary prior to all sentencing that the courts establish if the outcome of the accused actions where as intended….!.
So unless the courts could prove a drug dealer supplied with the intent to kill there would be no president to impose a like for like punishment if indeed such a penalty still existed as an option …  |
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