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The police are searching for madeleine mccann in portugal.
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
I read the news and apparently the police have started digging near a reservoir in portugal.
It comes after the german state prosecutor hanns christian wolters said the authorities "have grounds to believe that we could find evidence there (in the reservoir".
He added that he cannot disclose it here at the moment for tactical reasons.
What do you think of the latest about it, do you think that the clue they have could finally solve it? I hope that it might be a closure to it. |
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....He added that he cannot disclose it here at the moment for tactical reasons.
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I know Fab is at the cutting edge of modern life, but didnt realise we were that significant.
Will they be posting in the forum when they can disclose it, or will it be a status update?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I still think her parents had something to do with it and it still staggers me that no action was taken against them for having left their young children unattended. |
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"I still think her parents had something to do with it and it still staggers me that no action was taken against them for having left their young children unattended."
Can't agree on the first bit, absolutely no way.
Second bit 100% true, guilty of child neglect & should have criminal records.
Lastly there is no reason for British coppers to be in attendance at the reservoir, its no more than a jolly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Goncalo Amaral said a German drifter would be falsely blamed as a patsy way before Christian B was ever mentioned.
THE DOGS
How many times did they alert in the apartment 5a and hire car
oh and Kates clothes
CAN THE DOGS BE WRONG?
so many times ?
different places ?
all directly related to GUESS WHO ?
The Parents
Kate and Gerry McCann
guilty your honour
Mrs C |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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**Getting injunctions and gagging orders to silence people.
**Not answering standard questions (48) to be precise- even know it could/would probably help. I know lawyers can tell their clients to not answer in case you incriminate yourself. But that's ridiculous if you're 100% innocent in ANYTHING.
** Shutting down/hindering prospective leads/investigators.
** Refusing a lie detector (it can't be used in court anyways.)
** Discrediting the sniffer dogs.
** Sticking with the "abduction" claim when said dogs alerted to DNA etc- why not sit back and accept or say to themselves-
"maybe something did happen in this apartment?" IF THEY were INNOCENT of everything, why not go along with it and prompt further questioning? Like maybe someone did hurt our child in here but we know for sure it wasn't us approach...
This would of been more "normal" in a
"parents are showing genuine signs of innocence and are CLEARLY helping not hindering any potential lead/evidence..... |
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I'm guessing that without some very precise evidence behind their motivation to search, that this could be just another in the long line of dead ends.
It would certainly be best if there was closure |
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By *oofy321Man
over a year ago
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"Goncalo Amaral said a German drifter would be falsely blamed as a patsy way before Christian B was ever mentioned.
THE DOGS
How many times did they alert in the apartment 5a and hire car
oh and Kates clothes
CAN THE DOGS BE WRONG?
so many times ?
different places ?
all directly related to GUESS WHO ?
The Parents
Kate and Gerry McCann
guilty your honour
Mrs C "
Whats your source? Are you directly involved? You have access to all the police reports? Your involved? Or you just read stuff in the papers and make your stuff up? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The internet is packed out with budding Miss Marples"
Agree with you, budding Miss Marples and idiots peddling conspiracy theories and postulating on hypotheses made up to satisfy their fertile imaginations.  |
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"The internet is packed out with budding Miss Marples
Agree with you, budding Miss Marples and idiots peddling conspiracy theories and postulating on hypotheses made up to satisfy their fertile imaginations. "
This |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm guessing that without some very precise evidence behind their motivation to search, that this could be just another in the long line of dead ends.
It would certainly be best if there was closure "
It's been searched twice already |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Goncalo Amaral said a German drifter would be falsely blamed as a patsy way before Christian B was ever mentioned.
THE DOGS
How many times did they alert in the apartment 5a and hire car
oh and Kates clothes
CAN THE DOGS BE WRONG?
so many times ?
different places ?
all directly related to GUESS WHO ?
The Parents
Kate and Gerry McCann
guilty your honour
Mrs C
Whats your source? Are you directly involved? You have access to all the police reports? Your involved? Or you just read stuff in the papers and make your stuff up?"
It's all in the files that are open to the public |
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By *oofy321Man
over a year ago
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"The internet is packed out with budding Miss Marples
Agree with you, budding Miss Marples and idiots peddling conspiracy theories and postulating on hypotheses made up to satisfy their fertile imaginations. "
These people forget that there is a family missing a child...I can't imagine what that feels like |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
Ben Needham disappeared aged 1 on Kos in 1991. Still missing.
There are 395 records of children who have been reported as missing since 2007, who were under the age of 10 years old at the time of the missing incident, that are still open. So they are still believed to be missing.
Why has only one case had circa £13m spent on it and is still being actively investigated?
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"I still think the parents should of been prosecuted for neglect , something doesn't sit right for me with them "
I agree, unfortunately you cannot be charged under English law for a child neglect offence that is carried out overseas. |
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By *oofy321Man
over a year ago
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"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this. "
Because the mccaans are successful and middle class...so they must be guilty |
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By *hagTonight OP Man
over a year ago
From the land of haribos. |
"I agree with you Shag. I hope it brings peace to her family especially her siblings whose lives must have been seriously impacted "
Yes. I also hope that it brings peace with the family and yes, especially to them as well.
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this. "
He was in and out of a farmhouse being renovated and was being looked after by his grandparents. Children are out of sight of parents all the time even in their own homes and back gardens.
Definitely out of sight if you've gone out and left them completely unaccompanied so you can eat and drink for a few hours.
There's a bit of a difference and the comparison is a serious stretch.
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"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this.
He was in and out of a farmhouse being renovated and was being looked after by his grandparents. Children are out of sight of parents all the time even in their own homes and back gardens.
Definitely out of sight if you've gone out and left them completely unaccompanied so you can eat and drink for a few hours.
There's a bit of a difference and the comparison is a serious stretch.
A"
Do you think so? I wouldn't have let my kids wander in and out of a house that was being renovated at that age or assumed they'd been taken out on a cousins moped when I couldn't find them and the idea of being so casual about the care of any future grandchildren I might have makes me anxious before it's even happened. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this.
He was in and out of a farmhouse being renovated and was being looked after by his grandparents. Children are out of sight of parents all the time even in their own homes and back gardens.
Definitely out of sight if you've gone out and left them completely unaccompanied so you can eat and drink for a few hours.
There's a bit of a difference and the comparison is a serious stretch.
A
Do you think so? I wouldn't have let my kids wander in and out of a house that was being renovated at that age or assumed they'd been taken out on a cousins moped when I couldn't find them and the idea of being so casual about the care of any future grandchildren I might have makes me anxious before it's even happened. "
Was he left alone with no supervision as Madeline was? No
Was he deliberately left alone? No
Both are tragedies but only one was a case of parental neglect. Accidents involving children happen all the time even when supervised. When unsupervised the risk is higher.
There's a massive difference between a child being out of sight for seconds/minutes and deliberately leaving one alone for several hours. The McCanns admitted leaving their children alone for up to three hours, four nights in a row.
No comparison at all.
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"Ben Needham disappeared aged 1 on Kos in 1991. Still missing.
There are 395 records of children who have been reported as missing since 2007, who were under the age of 10 years old at the time of the missing incident, that are still open. So they are still believed to be missing.
Why has only one case had circa £13m spent on it and is still being actively investigated?
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. Because the family is linked to one of the biggest PR & Marketing agencies with some very good contacts in press and other circles? |
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"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this.
He was in and out of a farmhouse being renovated and was being looked after by his grandparents. Children are out of sight of parents all the time even in their own homes and back gardens.
Definitely out of sight if you've gone out and left them completely unaccompanied so you can eat and drink for a few hours.
There's a bit of a difference and the comparison is a serious stretch.
A
Do you think so? I wouldn't have let my kids wander in and out of a house that was being renovated at that age or assumed they'd been taken out on a cousins moped when I couldn't find them and the idea of being so casual about the care of any future grandchildren I might have makes me anxious before it's even happened.
Was he left alone with no supervision as Madeline was? No
Was he deliberately left alone? No
Both are tragedies but only one was a case of parental neglect. Accidents involving children happen all the time even when supervised. When unsupervised the risk is higher.
There's a massive difference between a child being out of sight for seconds/minutes and deliberately leaving one alone for several hours. The McCanns admitted leaving their children alone for up to three hours, four nights in a row.
No comparison at all.
A
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I think this is an occasion where we'll have to agree to disagree |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this.
He was in and out of a farmhouse being renovated and was being looked after by his grandparents. Children are out of sight of parents all the time even in their own homes and back gardens.
Definitely out of sight if you've gone out and left them completely unaccompanied so you can eat and drink for a few hours.
There's a bit of a difference and the comparison is a serious stretch.
A
Do you think so? I wouldn't have let my kids wander in and out of a house that was being renovated at that age or assumed they'd been taken out on a cousins moped when I couldn't find them and the idea of being so casual about the care of any future grandchildren I might have makes me anxious before it's even happened.
Was he left alone with no supervision as Madeline was? No
Was he deliberately left alone? No
Both are tragedies but only one was a case of parental neglect. Accidents involving children happen all the time even when supervised. When unsupervised the risk is higher.
There's a massive difference between a child being out of sight for seconds/minutes and deliberately leaving one alone for several hours. The McCanns admitted leaving their children alone for up to three hours, four nights in a row.
No comparison at all.
A
I think this is an occasion where we'll have to agree to disagree"
And thats fine.
I just don't see it as comparable to deliberately and consciously leave young children alone for hours vs leaving them with grandparents where they may have been out of sight for minutes.
One was completely avoidable and may have changed the outcome. The other, to me anyway, was far less avoidable.
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"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this.
He was in and out of a farmhouse being renovated and was being looked after by his grandparents. Children are out of sight of parents all the time even in their own homes and back gardens.
Definitely out of sight if you've gone out and left them completely unaccompanied so you can eat and drink for a few hours.
There's a bit of a difference and the comparison is a serious stretch.
A
Do you think so? I wouldn't have let my kids wander in and out of a house that was being renovated at that age or assumed they'd been taken out on a cousins moped when I couldn't find them and the idea of being so casual about the care of any future grandchildren I might have makes me anxious before it's even happened.
Was he left alone with no supervision as Madeline was? No
Was he deliberately left alone? No
Both are tragedies but only one was a case of parental neglect. Accidents involving children happen all the time even when supervised. When unsupervised the risk is higher.
There's a massive difference between a child being out of sight for seconds/minutes and deliberately leaving one alone for several hours. The McCanns admitted leaving their children alone for up to three hours, four nights in a row.
No comparison at all.
A
I think this is an occasion where we'll have to agree to disagree
And thats fine.
I just don't see it as comparable to deliberately and consciously leave young children alone for hours vs leaving them with grandparents where they may have been out of sight for minutes.
One was completely avoidable and may have changed the outcome. The other, to me anyway, was far less avoidable.
A"
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"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this. "
Was it comparable & never knew that, was he left for a short period whilst someone went to the loo or similar or actually left for a prolonged period.
I,m aware the McCanns left their kids 55metres away to go to dinner so the mixed feelings are immense sympathy but also immense anger.
But more than anything disgust! |
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"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this.
Was it comparable & never knew that, was he left for a short period whilst someone went to the loo or similar or actually left for a prolonged period.
I,m aware the McCanns left their kids 55metres away to go to dinner so the mixed feelings are immense sympathy but also immense anger.
But more than anything disgust!"
It's unclear from what I've read how long elapsed between last seeing Ben and realising he was missing. The people who were charged with his care were busy renovating and at first assumed he'd wandered off or had been taken out on his uncle's moped so didn't immediately inform the police.
Whether it's comparable or not is up to the individual to decide but personally I think leaving child of under two to play alone isn't acceptable |
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By *aekaeWoman
over a year ago
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"Ben Needham disappeared aged 1 on Kos in 1991. Still missing.
There are 395 records of children who have been reported as missing since 2007, who were under the age of 10 years old at the time of the missing incident, that are still open. So they are still believed to be missing.
Why has only one case had circa £13m spent on it and is still being actively investigated?
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. Because the family is linked to one of the biggest PR & Marketing agencies with some very good contacts in press and other circles?"
Were they linked before their daughter went missing, or have they harnessed the force of a PR and marketing company to keep the case in the public conscious since she went missing? |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this.
Was it comparable & never knew that, was he left for a short period whilst someone went to the loo or similar or actually left for a prolonged period.
I,m aware the McCanns left their kids 55metres away to go to dinner so the mixed feelings are immense sympathy but also immense anger.
But more than anything disgust!
It's unclear from what I've read how long elapsed between last seeing Ben and realising he was missing. The people who were charged with his care were busy renovating and at first assumed he'd wandered off or had been taken out on his uncle's moped so didn't immediately inform the police.
Whether it's comparable or not is up to the individual to decide but personally I think leaving child of under two to play alone isn't acceptable "
It isn't a direct comparison with the Mcgann case though. One from what I have heard is Grandparents letting a small child play outside alone , the other is parents leaving three children under 4 alone in an unlocked apartment while they went for food.
I personally wouldn't have left a 21 month old child to play outside alone just as I wouldn't leave my children alone while I went out for a meal
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"The internet is packed out with budding Miss Marples
Agree with you, budding Miss Marples and idiots peddling conspiracy theories and postulating on hypotheses made up to satisfy their fertile imaginations. "
You do not need to think very hard or posess any specialist skills to see that this case and apparently well connected people involved have been treated very differently to other missing child cases over the years.
Some families have been left agonising over their missing child for many years with not a fraction of the money and manpower thrown at this case.
There is clearly more to this than is immediately apparent.
If this girl had been the child of a single mother then that mother would have had very different treatment.
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"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this.
Was it comparable & never knew that, was he left for a short period whilst someone went to the loo or similar or actually left for a prolonged period.
I,m aware the McCanns left their kids 55metres away to go to dinner so the mixed feelings are immense sympathy but also immense anger.
But more than anything disgust!
It's unclear from what I've read how long elapsed between last seeing Ben and realising he was missing. The people who were charged with his care were busy renovating and at first assumed he'd wandered off or had been taken out on his uncle's moped so didn't immediately inform the police.
Whether it's comparable or not is up to the individual to decide but personally I think leaving child of under two to play alone isn't acceptable "
No it's not but waters down your critical questioning of the Needhams not being as criticised when compared to the McCanns as we have plenty of details on them & undoubtedlythe Needham grandparents were definitely niave but not deliberate in their actions.
Perversely I feel if the McCanns did get a criminal record for neglect they would of gained more sympathy. Something smells about them getting an easy run due to social standing.
I heard someone on the radio yesterday saying "we've all done it" so should sympathise with the McCanns. No, most of us would never leave our kids even in our own homes & go out for a meal.
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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I saw this yesterday yes, first proper lead in 15 years. I hope it brings closure.
I also read that the fake Madeline McCann May now be charged with child porn & recruiting children into sex work……what a crazy world.
I really feel For the Mcanns, bad enough losing a kid but the continued hate from the press and public and the fake Madeline is vile and a reflection of some very sick people |
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over a year ago
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"Ben Needham was 21 months old and playing outside, alone and unattended. I've never heard anyone criticised for this.
Was it comparable & never knew that, was he left for a short period whilst someone went to the loo or similar or actually left for a prolonged period.
I,m aware the McCanns left their kids 55metres away to go to dinner so the mixed feelings are immense sympathy but also immense anger.
But more than anything disgust!
It's unclear from what I've read how long elapsed between last seeing Ben and realising he was missing. The people who were charged with his care were busy renovating and at first assumed he'd wandered off or had been taken out on his uncle's moped so didn't immediately inform the police.
Whether it's comparable or not is up to the individual to decide but personally I think leaving child of under two to play alone isn't acceptable "
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over a year ago
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Didn't they search that area years ago when she first went missing? I doubt they'll find anything of significance now.
I don't believe this Christian guy did it - I think it's easy to pin it on him as he was in the area, well known peadophile and sex offender etc and he's clearly very dangerous but no charges bought to him ? No massive evidence? Hmmm.
I do think she's dead though. X |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Mrs Bulger briefly stopped holding Jamie's hand in the butchers. It was the first time she had not used the pushchair. "
I have resisted till now...but what has that got to do with anything on this thread?
Are you trying to say that was in comparsion to the two cases being talked about on here? |
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"Mrs Bulger briefly stopped holding Jamie's hand in the butchers. It was the first time she had not used the pushchair.
I have resisted till now...but what has that got to do with anything on this thread?
Are you trying to say that was in comparsion to the two cases being talked about on here?"
It's definitely in comparison to one. A child left alone for a few minutes with a parent/guardian relatively nearby vs willful neglect of leaving your kids essentially home alone 4 nights in a row while you went out to eat and get pissed.
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Why are people trying to compare other cases, there's zero comparisons in any of the other missing cases except they are children.
I hope it brings come closure although it's already been searched.
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"Mrs Bulger briefly stopped holding Jamie's hand in the butchers. It was the first time she had not used the pushchair.
I have resisted till now...but what has that got to do with anything on this thread?
Are you trying to say that was in comparsion to the two cases being talked about on here?It's definitely in comparison to one. A child left alone for a few minutes with a parent/guardian relatively nearby vs willful neglect of leaving your kids essentially home alone 4
nights in a row while you went out to eat and get pissed.
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"Mrs Bulger briefly stopped holding Jamie's hand in the butchers. It was the first time she had not used the pushchair.
I have resisted till now...but what has that got to do with anything on this thread?
Are you trying to say that was in comparsion to the two cases being talked about on here?It's definitely in comparison to one. A child left alone for a few minutes with a parent/guardian relatively nearby vs willful neglect of leaving your kids essentially home alone 4
nights in a row while you went out to eat and get pissed.
Were the McCanns pissed then?"
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Why are people trying to compare other cases, there's zero comparisons in any of the other missing cases except they are children.
I hope it brings come closure although it's already been searched.
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"Mrs Bulger briefly stopped holding Jamie's hand in the butchers. It was the first time she had not used the pushchair.
I have resisted till now...but what has that got to do with anything on this thread?
Are you trying to say that was in comparsion to the two cases being talked about on here?It's definitely in comparison to one. A child left alone for a few minutes with a parent/guardian relatively nearby vs willful neglect of leaving your kids essentially home alone 4
nights in a row while you went out to eat and get pissed.
Were the McCanns pissed then?"
The group drank between 6 to 8 bottles of wine between 9 of them the previous 3 nights, with 2 out of 6 bottles being ordered but untouched the night of the disappearance. I'd say its feasible they had a pretty good buzz on that night.
Is it unfathomable that people who would leave multiple young kids unattended would also get d*unk? |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Mrs Bulger briefly stopped holding Jamie's hand in the butchers. It was the first time she had not used the pushchair.
I have resisted till now...but what has that got to do with anything on this thread?
Are you trying to say that was in comparsion to the two cases being talked about on here?It's definitely in comparison to one. A child left alone for a few minutes with a parent/guardian relatively nearby vs willful neglect of leaving your kids essentially home alone 4 nights in a row while you went out to eat and get pissed.
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I don't think so. If The bulger child was left outside of a shop playing on the floor while she shopped inside then I would say, what were you thinking. But letting go of a child while you get your purse out is not the same thing at all
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"Mrs Bulger briefly stopped holding Jamie's hand in the butchers. It was the first time she had not used the pushchair.
I have resisted till now...but what has that got to do with anything on this thread?
Are you trying to say that was in comparsion to the two cases being talked about on here?It's definitely in comparison to one. A child left alone for a few minutes with a parent/guardian relatively nearby vs willful neglect of leaving your kids essentially home alone 4 nights in a row while you went out to eat and get pissed.
I don't think so. If The bulger child was left outside of a shop playing on the floor while she shopped inside then I would say, what were you thinking. But letting go of a child while you get your purse out is not the same thing at all
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It's more similar than trying to compare fucking off to a restraint to eat and drink with a child going missing from just outside your house while they were briefly unattended. |
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I can't remember how she was thought to be taken? Did she leave their rooms or was someone supposed to have come in? It's all about their sense of security and whether the kids were happy been left for me. If they honestly felt it was secure enough then it's hard to judge imo. But kids do wander sometimes. I don't know.
This story is such a keeper partly because of how tough this actual question is for people I think. pt |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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So we have no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?, they were in a group of 9 adults, who knows which of those 9 adults drank the most, or even drank any of the wine?
We went out a couple of weeks ago in a large group of 16 adults for an Indian meal, highly likely that over a dozen bottles of wine or more were d*unk within the group......did Jane and I drink most of it?....or actually none of it? |
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"I can't remember how she was thought to be taken? Did she leave their rooms or was someone supposed to have come in? It's all about their sense of security and whether the kids were happy been left for me. If they honestly felt it was secure enough then it's hard to judge imo. But kids do wander sometimes. I don't know.
This story is such a keeper partly because of how tough this actual question is for people I think. pt"
The kids were young as fuck. It doesn't matter how happy they were being left. If we are talking 11/12 year old then I'd agree but 3 year old kids should never be left alone while you go out for a meal.
It's neglect, plain and simple. If this was some chavvy council estate parents the world would have been a lot less sympathetic IMO |
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"So we have no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?, they were in a group of 9 adults, who knows which of those 9 adults drank the most, or even drank any of the wine?
We went out a couple of weeks ago in a large group of 16 adults for an Indian meal, highly likely that over a dozen bottles of wine or more were d*unk within the group......did Jane and I drink most of it?....or actually none of it?"
Well given most of the group had kids, some fucker was either an alcoholic or drinking while they left their kids alone.
Did you leave a 3 year old home alone while you went for the Indian? If not it isnt really comparable is it?
They are deplorable humans at best, monsters if they had any hand in it. |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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"So we have no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?, they were in a group of 9 adults, who knows which of those 9 adults drank the most, or even drank any of the wine?
We went out a couple of weeks ago in a large group of 16 adults for an Indian meal, highly likely that over a dozen bottles of wine or more were d*unk within the group......did Jane and I drink most of it?....or actually none of it?Well given most of the group had kids, some fucker was either an alcoholic or drinking while they left their kids alone.
Did you leave a 3 year old home alone while you went for the Indian? If not it isnt really comparable is it?
They are deplorable humans at best, monsters if they had any hand in it."
So that's a no then?.......no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?
You do know that not all of the McCann's group actually had children don't you? |
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"So we have no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?, they were in a group of 9 adults, who knows which of those 9 adults drank the most, or even drank any of the wine?
We went out a couple of weeks ago in a large group of 16 adults for an Indian meal, highly likely that over a dozen bottles of wine or more were d*unk within the group......did Jane and I drink most of it?....or actually none of it?Well given most of the group had kids, some fucker was either an alcoholic or drinking while they left their kids alone.
Did you leave a 3 year old home alone while you went for the Indian? If not it isnt really comparable is it?
They are deplorable humans at best, monsters if they had any hand in it.
So that's a no then?.......no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?
You do know that not all of the McCann's group actually had children don't you?"
Six out of nine had children, one was a grandparent. It's a pretty decent majority.
The waiters in the resteraunt have also given interviews that the entire group were all drinking. Ranging from the 6 to 8 bottles of wine to some even saying cocktails and spirits.
Proof enough for me, I'm biased however, not in the habit of defending neglectful parents who either got their kid taken and murdered or killed her themselves and covered it up. |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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"So we have no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?, they were in a group of 9 adults, who knows which of those 9 adults drank the most, or even drank any of the wine?
We went out a couple of weeks ago in a large group of 16 adults for an Indian meal, highly likely that over a dozen bottles of wine or more were d*unk within the group......did Jane and I drink most of it?....or actually none of it?Well given most of the group had kids, some fucker was either an alcoholic or drinking while they left their kids alone.
Did you leave a 3 year old home alone while you went for the Indian? If not it isnt really comparable is it?
They are deplorable humans at best, monsters if they had any hand in it.
So that's a no then?.......no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?
You do know that not all of the McCann's group actually had children don't you?Six out of nine had children, one was a grandparent. It's a pretty decent majority.
The waiters in the resteraunt have also given interviews that the entire group were all drinking. Ranging from the 6 to 8 bottles of wine to some even saying cocktails and spirits.
Proof enough for me, I'm biased however, not in the habit of defending neglectful parents who either got their kid taken and murdered or killed her themselves and covered it up. "
So again.....no actual proof of the McCann's being "pissed"?
Just because you want it to be true it doesn't make it true.
Any ACTUAL evidence of the McCanns having submitted blood alcohol readings on the night of the disappearance?
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"So we have no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?, they were in a group of 9 adults, who knows which of those 9 adults drank the most, or even drank any of the wine?
We went out a couple of weeks ago in a large group of 16 adults for an Indian meal, highly likely that over a dozen bottles of wine or more were d*unk within the group......did Jane and I drink most of it?....or actually none of it?Well given most of the group had kids, some fucker was either an alcoholic or drinking while they left their kids alone.
Did you leave a 3 year old home alone while you went for the Indian? If not it isnt really comparable is it?
They are deplorable humans at best, monsters if they had any hand in it.
So that's a no then?.......no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?
You do know that not all of the McCann's group actually had children don't you?Six out of nine had children, one was a grandparent. It's a pretty decent majority.
The waiters in the resteraunt have also given interviews that the entire group were all drinking. Ranging from the 6 to 8 bottles of wine to some even saying cocktails and spirits.
Proof enough for me, I'm biased however, not in the habit of defending neglectful parents who either got their kid taken and murdered or killed her themselves and covered it up.
So again.....no actual proof of the McCann's being "pissed"?
Just because you want it to be true it doesn't make it true.
Any ACTUAL evidence of the McCanns having submitted blood alcohol readings on the night of the disappearance?
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Eye witness accounts are enough for me. Their child is dead and gone because of their actions so fuck them and anyone defending them.
I also didn't realise I had to build a criminal case to have an opinion on a swingers forum. I left my bloodtest kits in my other lab coat  |
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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago
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"I saw this yesterday yes, first proper lead in 15 years. I hope it brings closure.
I also read that the fake Madeline McCann May now be charged with child porn & recruiting children into sex work……what a crazy world.
I really feel For the Mcanns, bad enough losing a kid but the continued hate from the press and public and the fake Madeline is vile and a reflection of some very sick people "
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
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"I still think her parents had something to do with it and it still staggers me that no action was taken against them for having left their young children unattended."
. I don’t think the parents had anything to do with it but I believe that if the parents had lived on a housing estate with low paid jobs or on benefits the other two children would have been taken away from them
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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"I still think her parents had something to do with it and it still staggers me that no action was taken against them for having left their young children unattended.. I don’t think the parents had anything to do with it but I believe that if the parents had lived on a housing estate with low paid jobs or on benefits the other two children would have been taken away from them"
If it happened in this country yes, however it happened in Portugal and the McCanns can't have their other children taken away by UK authorities for something that happened abroad. |
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"I saw this yesterday yes, first proper lead in 15 years. I hope it brings closure.
I also read that the fake Madeline McCann May now be charged with child porn & recruiting children into sex work……what a crazy world.
I really feel For the Mcanns, bad enough losing a kid but the continued hate from the press and public and the fake Madeline is vile and a reflection of some very sick people "
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
Edmonton |
"I still think her parents had something to do with it and it still staggers me that no action was taken against them for having left their young children unattended.. I don’t think the parents had anything to do with it but I believe that if the parents had lived on a housing estate with low paid jobs or on benefits the other two children would have been taken away from them
If it happened in this country yes, however it happened in Portugal and the McCanns can't have their other children taken away by UK authorities for something that happened abroad."
. Thanks Janes Hubby for this information I had no idea that was the law.Seems a strange law to me but it is what it is |
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"I still think her parents had something to do with it and it still staggers me that no action was taken against them for having left their young children unattended.. I don’t think the parents had anything to do with it but I believe that if the parents had lived on a housing estate with low paid jobs or on benefits the other two children would have been taken away from them
If it happened in this country yes, however it happened in Portugal and the McCanns can't have their other children taken away by UK authorities for something that happened abroad."
No way, British nationals have a protection by law & these British parents failed to protect their kids. If this were the case these Pedro's going to the Philippines to commit crimes wouldn't get done. |
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"I still think her parents had something to do with it and it still staggers me that no action was taken against them for having left their young children unattended.. I don’t think the parents had anything to do with it but I believe that if the parents had lived on a housing estate with low paid jobs or on benefits the other two children would have been taken away from them
If it happened in this country yes, however it happened in Portugal and the McCanns can't have their other children taken away by UK authorities for something that happened abroad.
No way, British nationals have a protection by law & these British parents failed to protect their kids. If this were the case these Pedro's going to the Philippines to commit crimes wouldn't get done. "
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By *aekaeWoman
over a year ago
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"So we have no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?, they were in a group of 9 adults, who knows which of those 9 adults drank the most, or even drank any of the wine?
We went out a couple of weeks ago in a large group of 16 adults for an Indian meal, highly likely that over a dozen bottles of wine or more were d*unk within the group......did Jane and I drink most of it?....or actually none of it?Well given most of the group had kids, some fucker was either an alcoholic or drinking while they left their kids alone.
Did you leave a 3 year old home alone while you went for the Indian? If not it isnt really comparable is it?
They are deplorable humans at best, monsters if they had any hand in it.
So that's a no then?.......no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?
You do know that not all of the McCann's group actually had children don't you?Six out of nine had children, one was a grandparent. It's a pretty decent majority.
The waiters in the resteraunt have also given interviews that the entire group were all drinking. Ranging from the 6 to 8 bottles of wine to some even saying cocktails and spirits.
Proof enough for me, I'm biased however, not in the habit of defending neglectful parents who either got their kid taken and murdered or killed her themselves and covered it up.
So again.....no actual proof of the McCann's being "pissed"?
Just because you want it to be true it doesn't make it true.
Any ACTUAL evidence of the McCanns having submitted blood alcohol readings on the night of the disappearance?
Eye witness accounts are enough for me. Their child is dead and gone because of their actions so fuck them and anyone defending them.
I also didn't realise I had to build a criminal case to have an opinion on a swingers forum. I left my bloodtest kits in my other lab coat "
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By *B69Woman
over a year ago
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I met the family a few years back at a children’s sporting event and have to say I felt sorry for them, once people realised who they were, they were constantly being watched and gossiped about it wasn’t nice to see, I felt sorry for the siblings who were just trying to enjoy their weekend. |
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"I met the family a few years back at a children’s sporting event and have to say I felt sorry for them, once people realised who they were, they were constantly being watched and gossiped about it wasn’t nice to see, I felt sorry for the siblings who were just trying to enjoy their weekend."
I've seen that too. It was very sad, especially for their other children. |
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"I still think her parents had something to do with it and it still staggers me that no action was taken against them for having left their young children unattended.. I don’t think the parents had anything to do with it but I believe that if the parents had lived on a housing estate with low paid jobs or on benefits the other two children would have been taken away from them
If it happened in this country yes, however it happened in Portugal and the McCanns can't have their other children taken away by UK authorities for something that happened abroad.
No way, British nationals have a protection by law & these British parents failed to protect their kids. If this were the case these Pedro's going to the Philippines to commit crimes wouldn't get done.
Bit unfair for the Pedro's in the world."
Apoligises to Pedro's everywhere, maybe slipped a random 'r' in by mistake. |
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By *ndycoinsMan
over a year ago
Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton, |
"I still think her parents had something to do with it and it still staggers me that no action was taken against them for having left their young children unattended."
If they had left their children unattended in this country they would have been prosecuted and had the other kids removed from their "care".Very sad that Maddie paid the price for their actions. |
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"So we have no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?, they were in a group of 9 adults, who knows which of those 9 adults drank the most, or even drank any of the wine?
We went out a couple of weeks ago in a large group of 16 adults for an Indian meal, highly likely that over a dozen bottles of wine or more were d*unk within the group......did Jane and I drink most of it?....or actually none of it?Well given most of the group had kids, some fucker was either an alcoholic or drinking while they left their kids alone.
Did you leave a 3 year old home alone while you went for the Indian? If not it isnt really comparable is it?
They are deplorable humans at best, monsters if they had any hand in it.
So that's a no then?.......no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?
You do know that not all of the McCann's group actually had children don't you?Six out of nine had children, one was a grandparent. It's a pretty decent majority.
The waiters in the resteraunt have also given interviews that the entire group were all drinking. Ranging from the 6 to 8 bottles of wine to some even saying cocktails and spirits.
Proof enough for me, I'm biased however, not in the habit of defending neglectful parents who either got their kid taken and murdered or killed her themselves and covered it up.
So again.....no actual proof of the McCann's being "pissed"?
Just because you want it to be true it doesn't make it true.
Any ACTUAL evidence of the McCanns having submitted blood alcohol readings on the night of the disappearance?
Eye witness accounts are enough for me. Their child is dead and gone because of their actions so fuck them and anyone defending them.
I also didn't realise I had to build a criminal case to have an opinion on a swingers forum. I left my bloodtest kits in my other lab coat
Eye witness accounts are notoriously unreliable. Ask 5 people what they saw, they'll give a different picture."
Yes and that's why it varies in how much/what type of alcohol but everyone interviewed said the group was drinking heavily.
At best I believe they are guilty of neglect because they decided food and drinks were more important than the safety of their kids. I hope the death of their daughter haunts them forever because they don't deserve to be let off the hook for causing this.
Only people I feel sorry for in this are the kids. |
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"So we have no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?, they were in a group of 9 adults, who knows which of those 9 adults drank the most, or even drank any of the wine?
We went out a couple of weeks ago in a large group of 16 adults for an Indian meal, highly likely that over a dozen bottles of wine or more were d*unk within the group......did Jane and I drink most of it?....or actually none of it?Well given most of the group had kids, some fucker was either an alcoholic or drinking while they left their kids alone.
Did you leave a 3 year old home alone while you went for the Indian? If not it isnt really comparable is it?
They are deplorable humans at best, monsters if they had any hand in it.
So that's a no then?.......no actual proof that the McCanns were pissed?
You do know that not all of the McCann's group actually had children don't you?Six out of nine had children, one was a grandparent. It's a pretty decent majority.
The waiters in the resteraunt have also given interviews that the entire group were all drinking. Ranging from the 6 to 8 bottles of wine to some even saying cocktails and spirits.
Proof enough for me, I'm biased however, not in the habit of defending neglectful parents who either got their kid taken and murdered or killed her themselves and covered it up.
So again.....no actual proof of the McCann's being "pissed"?
Just because you want it to be true it doesn't make it true.
Any ACTUAL evidence of the McCanns having submitted blood alcohol readings on the night of the disappearance?
Eye witness accounts are enough for me. Their child is dead and gone because of their actions so fuck them and anyone defending them.
I also didn't realise I had to build a criminal case to have an opinion on a swingers forum. I left my bloodtest kits in my other lab coat
Eye witness accounts are notoriously unreliable. Ask 5 people what they saw, they'll give a different picture.Yes and that's why it varies in how much/what type of alcohol but everyone interviewed said the group was drinking heavily.
At best I believe they are guilty of neglect because they decided food and drinks were more important than the safety of their kids. I hope the death of their daughter haunts them forever because they don't deserve to be let off the hook for causing this.
Only people I feel sorry for in this are the kids. "
who 10 years on aren't kids anymore they lost their sister and in a young life that must be devastating  |
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"I hope the death of their daughter haunts them forever
Have you ever considered therapy or why you would feel like that? Do you think it’s an attractive quality ? "
Therapy for having an opinion that doesn't match yours 
Don't be mad because lots of people don't support the Mcscamms abduction theory, there's more evidence that supports her death in apartment |
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