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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
A 22 stone man was turned away from a dentist because he was too heavy for the dentist's chair. He was then told that he was not welcome at the dentist any more and removed from their patient list. Is this fair. It's all over the news. |
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He'll probably end up getting it for free at a specialist NHS with bariatric seats designed for errmmm girthy people.
Think about what could potentially happen if his dentist had been treating him and the chair failed and the drill slipped. could cause a nasty injury. |
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"22st isn't really all that heavy, my pals 23 and isn't even fat just very tall and well built. No modern dentist chair would struggle with 22st."
Most don't, but some older or less expensive ones are limited to 21st. Some expensive can take 35st |
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22st isn't alot at all for a chairs limit, most rugby players pack 20st, the big boys like Jonah Lomu has to be 22st+ at their biggest.
I mean 20st Rugby Player Vs 20st non sport look very different, but I wonder if the same dentist would turn about equally heavy but fit looking people. |
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over a year ago
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No it isn't fair, there's room for adjustment to fit people's needs. There's always judgement for how big a person is but no compassion for the reason they are that way in the first place. |
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"22st isn't alot at all for a chairs limit, most rugby players pack 20st, the big boys like Jonah Lomu has to be 22st+ at their biggest.
I mean 20st Rugby Player Vs 20st non sport look very different, but I wonder if the same dentist would turn about equally heavy but fit looking people. "
Well if the person is too heavy for the chair, then it doesn't matter how fit they may be if their weight is the same then they are still too heavy aren't they? |
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Aren't some people judgy....
Nobody knows why the patient is 22stone....
He could be a 6ft 6 rugby player n incredibly physically fit.
That aside, if he's too heavy to fit in the dentist's chair, then he's too heavy to fit in a dentist's chair and insurance would be invalid, and could also cause further issues with the chair as a result of being 'overweight' meaning if the next person to get in it appears to break it and is injured, I'd imagine it would be an insurance nightmare
It's a very sensitive subject that should be broached with care tho,
I use to hate when heavier people used to turn up to go riding and we'd have to say things like 'sorry we cannot accommodate' we don't have a horse capable of carrying you.
It used to be the most awkward of situations!
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How would the dentist know ? Does he weigh everyone ?
Look up Andrew Porter for example, he's over 20st, 125kg in season so prob 130+ off season.
I doubt they would even consider his weight.
"22st isn't alot at all for a chairs limit, most rugby players pack 20st, the big boys like Jonah Lomu has to be 22st+ at their biggest.
I mean 20st Rugby Player Vs 20st non sport look very different, but I wonder if the same dentist would turn about equally heavy but fit looking people.
Well if the person is too heavy for the chair, then it doesn't matter how fit they may be if their weight is the same then they are still too heavy aren't they?"
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"How would the dentist know ? Does he weigh everyone ?
Look up Andrew Porter for example, he's over 20st, 125kg in season so prob 130+ off season.
I doubt they would even consider his weight.
22st isn't alot at all for a chairs limit, most rugby players pack 20st, the big boys like Jonah Lomu has to be 22st+ at their biggest.
I mean 20st Rugby Player Vs 20st non sport look very different, but I wonder if the same dentist would turn about equally heavy but fit looking people.
Well if the person is too heavy for the chair, then it doesn't matter how fit they may be if their weight is the same then they are still too heavy aren't they?"
To be honest Andrew porter does look like he would weigh more than your average Joe, so if I was a dentist with a chair that only takes a certain weight and I thought someone could be close to being over it, I would err on the side of caution for insurance purposes. Whether someone is very muscular and 22st or obese and 22 st it is still the same, and they would be taking a risk if they knew the chair may not handle it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A 22 stone man was turned away from a dentist because he was too heavy for the dentist's chair. He was then told that he was not welcome at the dentist any more and removed from their patient list. Is this fair. It's all over the news. "
He was advised, politely that he was too big for the chair and that he would require a dentist with a bariatric facility.
He then became angry telling them exactly what he thought of them which is why he was asked to leave and removed from the list. His behaviour led to this. |
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Ok yeah I get it’s not fair but think about it from a business point of view? Why should a small business have to pay tens of thousands to cater for a very small minority who are that heavy? It’s just not cost effective. An airline for example would make the person pay for 2 seats but not as simple as that for a dentist. Yeah it’s not ideal and not nice but sometimes people need to take responsibility for their own problems and not go crying attention seeking to newspapers  |
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"A 22 stone man was turned away from a dentist because he was too heavy for the dentist's chair. He was then told that he was not welcome at the dentist any more and removed from their patient list. Is this fair. It's all over the news. "
Fat shaming is a real thing. Even on this website. So many large people are turned off. As a chubby chaser I spoke to many guys who refuse going our have a sexual life because the abuse and rejection they go trough. All the fit bunnies can f*ck off if they can’t tell a man/woman no without ruining their self esteem. It’s painful to hear people feel down because their weight especially when shamed for it. I am really furious reading the article and it’s happening more than you imagine. |
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What would have happened if the dentist chair had collapsed?
After reading the article I would say this could have been handled more sensitively, it must have been shocking and frustrating to be refused treatment after traveling there.
I've noticed that in the outpatient departments of hospitals chairs suitable for larger people are available now but I don't know the cost of buying and installing a chair that would safely take over the weight that current dentist chairs are able to.
This could have been avoided if the dentist surgery had checked with patients before the appointment but to be honest I'd be a bit miffed if the receptionist asked "name, address, weight?" |
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By *asmartsCouple
over a year ago
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"22st isn't really all that heavy, my pals 23 and isn't even fat just very tall and well built. No modern dentist chair would struggle with 22st.
22st is extremely heavy regardless of build!"
Was just thinking same! |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"22st isn't alot at all for a chairs limit, most rugby players pack 20st, the big boys like Jonah Lomu has to be 22st+ at their biggest.
I mean 20st Rugby Player Vs 20st non sport look very different, but I wonder if the same dentist would turn about equally heavy but fit looking people. "
Jonah hasn't been 22st+ for nearly a decade. 
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By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Reports that when the gentleman was refused then there was some sort of altercation...
Poor fella just wanted his teeth looked at..
He could of been treated standing up or laying on the floor surely ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well if he was to heavy for the chair how would they treat him"
Patients do not have to be sat in a dental chair to be treated thankfully, there are always ways around it. At times patients are unable to move out of their wheelchairs for example yet it is always possible. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A 22 stone man was turned away from a dentist because he was too heavy for the dentist's chair. He was then told that he was not welcome at the dentist any more and removed from their patient list. Is this fair. It's all over the news. "
If he’s too big for the chair then the dentist can’t treat him. I’m sure the dentist would much rather be charging him a fortune for treatment. He needs to go and find a dentist with a chair that can take him.
I’m sure it’s pragmatism rather than anything personal. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There is possibly more to this story than what has been portrayed ie how did this patient react towards staff when he was informed the chair would not cope with his weight?
It would likely to be a breach of GDC guidelines to refuse to treat a patient simply on the basis of a chairs capability. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'd imagine going over the chairs weight limit would invalidate any insurance should the worst happen.
yet another reason the worlds broken"
Not as broken as that chair would be |
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By *mma29Couple
over a year ago
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"Reports that when the gentleman was refused then there was some sort of altercation...
Poor fella just wanted his teeth looked at..
He could of been treated standing up or laying on the floor surely ?"
It would be hard work doing it on the floor, like pulling teeth.  |
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By *nkyCplCouple
over a year ago
Northampton |
Not read the article, but I put it 100% on the person denied treatment.
Did they give the surgery a heads up prior to arriving? I have a massively overweight friend and because she’s self aware she tends to ask in advance to save any awkwardness. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I’ve got pliers and jack daniels for anaesthesia, also will do it for free as long as I can post the video of said procedure on my new dragons den venture called ‘drill it and fill it’ …. It’s a bit like ‘only fans’ but with less smiley faces, it’s well backed |
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"Reports that when the gentleman was refused then there was some sort of altercation...
Poor fella just wanted his teeth looked at..
He could have been treated standing up or laying on the floor surely ?"
It’s usually after the treatment when they give you the bill that you lie on the floor, having fainted. |
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"No it isn't fair, there's room for adjustment to fit people's needs. There's always judgement for how big a person is but no compassion for the reason they are that way in the first place. "
The reason is they are eating more than they need. Compassion leads to people thinking obesity isn't a big deal despite the health risks.
We freaked out about covid deaths and shut the country down but obesity has lead to a lot more death, not to mention the strain it puts on the health system.
Personally I don't care how people live their life but you can't just eat what you want without consequences unfortunately. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"22st isn't alot at all for a chairs limit, most rugby players pack 20st, the big boys like Jonah Lomu has to be 22st+ at their biggest.
I mean 20st Rugby Player Vs 20st non sport look very different, but I wonder if the same dentist would turn about equally heavy but fit looking people. "
Exactly this! I know guys with less than 10% body fat hitting 20 stone plus year round. |
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"A 22 stone man was turned away from a dentist because he was too heavy for the dentist's chair. He was then told that he was not welcome at the dentist any more and removed from their patient list. Is this fair. It's all over the news. "
Yes, maybe he'll realise he needs to lose weight sharp
22 stone isn't healthy at all |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I went to the dentist over 6 years ago. I was over 22 stone but I never had an issue in sitting in the chair I also wasn't refused the tooth extraction treatment. Surely since then chairs have been made more sturdy? If I was to go now with my now heavier weight I suppose I would have to say before i booked it |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Perhaps a new niche for dentist chair manufacturers "
I have never encountered a chair in 30 years, working in several different practices that would not have coped with that weight.
I am not speaking about me personally I should add  |
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