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"I would rather die alone and never have a single moment of intimacy again than risk rejection. That's not hyperbole. It's literally true." Oh, Elephantis, that makes me sad, my friend. Seriously? I mean, I know what you mean. When you really get the feels for someone and go for broke with a message, it sucks being shot down. But alone for the rest of your life? That’s a sad thought. | |||
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"Rejection hurts. Sometimes I take a rush of blood to the head and do it though " Fully agree | |||
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"I would rather die alone and never have a single moment of intimacy again than risk rejection. That's not hyperbole. It's literally true. Oh, Elephantis, that makes me sad, my friend. Seriously? I mean, I know what you mean. When you really get the feels for someone and go for broke with a message, it sucks being shot down. But alone for the rest of your life? That’s a sad thought." I was thinking the same. Sorry to hear it but I also don’t get it. | |||
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"Nah, we message always - what’s the point in saying nothing as you’ll never know. Even if someone says no, which we get, you’ve lost nothing still as you know then and can move on. Plus we didn’t have much to lose as we don’t know them fully anyway. If you don’t shoot you’ll never score… K" Amen to this. I am with you. | |||
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"I'm crafting a marriage proposal...I'm hesitant because it'd be my first message to him, but that's OK yes? " Seems reasonable to me. | |||
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"Definitely rejection, it's crippling... Soul destroying. I'd rather not know " More fool them, beautiful lady | |||
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"Just reading the Without Context thread and I am amazed at the number of people who don’t message someone they want to. I don’t get that - what have you got to lose? What stops you from messaging people?" People are scared of rejection | |||
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"Too many rejections and/or no shows. " I am sure at least one person has shown up | |||
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"I'm crafting a marriage proposal...I'm hesitant because it'd be my first message to him, but that's OK yes? " I will! I mean, erm, go for it | |||
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"I would rather die alone and never have a single moment of intimacy again than risk rejection. That's not hyperbole. It's literally true. Oh, Elephantis, that makes me sad, my friend. Seriously? I mean, I know what you mean. When you really get the feels for someone and go for broke with a message, it sucks being shot down. But alone for the rest of your life? That’s a sad thought." Don't feel sorry for me! Luckily, not everyone is as cowardly as me, so I do get occasional messages. | |||
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"Just reading the Without Context thread and I am amazed at the number of people who don’t message someone they want to. I don’t get that - what have you got to lose? What stops you from messaging people?" I don’t mind messaging women/couples to get a conversation going (that said, I haven’t felt like it for ages). My occasional reticence is down to not wanting to be shot down by anyone I actually really like. If I know they’re not interested, I’d rather save myself the disappointment and try to move on. | |||
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"I would rather die alone and never have a single moment of intimacy again than risk rejection. That's not hyperbole. It's literally true. Oh, Elephantis, that makes me sad, my friend. Seriously? I mean, I know what you mean. When you really get the feels for someone and go for broke with a message, it sucks being shot down. But alone for the rest of your life? That’s a sad thought. Don't feel sorry for me! Luckily, not everyone is as cowardly as me, so I do get occasional messages. " Splendid! | |||
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"I'm crafting a marriage proposal...I'm hesitant because it'd be my first message to him, but that's OK yes? " Ooh. Following | |||
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"Distance." Fully agree why are all the hotties so far away | |||
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"Just reading the Without Context thread and I am amazed at the number of people who don’t message someone they want to. I don’t get that - what have you got to lose? What stops you from messaging people?" What’s the point? I’m not what most people are looking for. I don’t want to be a pain or a pest. | |||
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"Do not fit profile requirements." That I can understand and seems reasonable. | |||
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"Distance." This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. | |||
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"Distance. This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. " It all depends on what you are looking for I guess, making an one off trip to Scotland for example is doable but when you’re focused on something far more regular, it just is not practical | |||
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"I’ll never message asking to meet. I’ll sometimes maybe message just in a friendly way if I like someone and work out if I think they may be interested from that. Depends how I’m feeling. Sometimes I’m really confident and sometimes I literally have no confidence at all. " I would not be able to work out what someone thinks from an oblique message - if you are interested then that’s what a wink is for in my opinion. | |||
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"Do not fit profile requirements. That I can understand and seems reasonable. " Height, bald head etc if I read it and I don't fit you move on. It's simple | |||
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"I’ll never message asking to meet. I’ll sometimes maybe message just in a friendly way if I like someone and work out if I think they may be interested from that. Depends how I’m feeling. Sometimes I’m really confident and sometimes I literally have no confidence at all. I would not be able to work out what someone thinks from an oblique message - if you are interested then that’s what a wink is for in my opinion." Maybe. I’ve never used those or even look at them. I can work it out if I chat enough. | |||
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"Distance. This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. " It's often the first thing I consider. I've no choice. | |||
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"Distance." I don't mind traveling for the person. | |||
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"Distance. This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. It all depends on what you are looking for I guess, making an one off trip to Scotland for example is doable but when you’re focused on something far more regular, it just is not practical " I agree. And also depending if you have a lot of other commitments. No chance I can travel miles and miles to meet someone on a regular basis and I’m not interested in one offs. | |||
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"Distance. This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. " I look at it, cry inside and ignore it. Because I agree | |||
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"Not being enough " Being too much as well xx | |||
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"Not being enough " Stop that. You're the sort of woman I'd take away for a dirty week away | |||
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"Fear of rejection and body image issues. " ,, this | |||
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"Not being enough " And that | |||
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"Fear of rejection and body image issues. " And that | |||
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"Honestly I'll look at who they have met and if I'm nothing like them it's doesn't matter if I like them I won't message as I doubt they'd be interested anyway Tinder x" And definitely that | |||
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"Distance. This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. It all depends on what you are looking for I guess, making an one off trip to Scotland for example is doable but when you’re focused on something far more regular, it just is not practical I agree. And also depending if you have a lot of other commitments. No chance I can travel miles and miles to meet someone on a regular basis and I’m not interested in one offs. " I've tried it before and I know it doesn't work for me. It limits me, and then I limit myself further. I'm a plonker. | |||
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"Distance. This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. It all depends on what you are looking for I guess, making an one off trip to Scotland for example is doable but when you’re focused on something far more regular, it just is not practical I agree. And also depending if you have a lot of other commitments. No chance I can travel miles and miles to meet someone on a regular basis and I’m not interested in one offs. " Same hence why I try to avoid such interactions. | |||
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"Not being enough " Whaaaaa, you’re amazing x | |||
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"Not being enough Stop that. You're the sort of woman I'd take away for a dirty week away" Oh you | |||
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"Distance. This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. It all depends on what you are looking for I guess, making an one off trip to Scotland for example is doable but when you’re focused on something far more regular, it just is not practical I agree. And also depending if you have a lot of other commitments. No chance I can travel miles and miles to meet someone on a regular basis and I’m not interested in one offs. I've tried it before and I know it doesn't work for me. It limits me, and then I limit myself further. I'm a plonker. " Yeah me too. A couple of times . I’ll go an hour though so I suppose half way could be someone 2 hours away and I’m in a good position being within no more than 30 minutes of 5 counties | |||
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"Distance. This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. It all depends on what you are looking for I guess, making an one off trip to Scotland for example is doable but when you’re focused on something far more regular, it just is not practical I agree. And also depending if you have a lot of other commitments. No chance I can travel miles and miles to meet someone on a regular basis and I’m not interested in one offs. I've tried it before and I know it doesn't work for me. It limits me, and then I limit myself further. I'm a plonker. " I have done this too and the furthest was a four hour flight away | |||
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"Not being enough " Say...what... You need more motivational quotes lol | |||
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"Never live your life regretting things you’ve not done. If you’re rejected then move on, you’ll live and get over it. I will always tell someone on here if I find them attractive. " And I have to say it was appreciated | |||
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"Distance. This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. It all depends on what you are looking for I guess, making an one off trip to Scotland for example is doable but when you’re focused on something far more regular, it just is not practical I agree. And also depending if you have a lot of other commitments. No chance I can travel miles and miles to meet someone on a regular basis and I’m not interested in one offs. I've tried it before and I know it doesn't work for me. It limits me, and then I limit myself further. I'm a plonker. Yeah me too. A couple of times . I’ll go an hour though so I suppose half way could be someone 2 hours away and I’m in a good position being within no more than 30 minutes of 5 counties " I live in the middle of nowhere and would happily travel 2 hours for the right person as I love driving anyway but it has to be a two way thing. | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort." this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead | |||
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"Distance. This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. It all depends on what you are looking for I guess, making an one off trip to Scotland for example is doable but when you’re focused on something far more regular, it just is not practical I agree. And also depending if you have a lot of other commitments. No chance I can travel miles and miles to meet someone on a regular basis and I’m not interested in one offs. I've tried it before and I know it doesn't work for me. It limits me, and then I limit myself further. I'm a plonker. Yeah me too. A couple of times . I’ll go an hour though so I suppose half way could be someone 2 hours away and I’m in a good position being within no more than 30 minutes of 5 counties " An hour is doable, for sure. | |||
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"Not being enough Whaaaaa, you’re amazing x " You're so lovely | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead " No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years | |||
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"Honestly I'll look at who they have met and if I'm nothing like them it's doesn't matter if I like them I won't message as I doubt they'd be interested anyway Tinder x And definitely that " This one is a killer | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years " Boom - this is the key. Everyone thinks someone is out of their league when in fact no one is. | |||
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"Fear of rejection, cause I'm a big girl " This is me as well. | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years Boom - this is the key. Everyone thinks someone is out of their league when in fact no one is." I just don't agree. You might not like the phrase "out of their league" but people generally gravitate towards people of their level of attractiveness. | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years " I think it’s such a shame this is a thing for humans. There’s no such thing as leagues, it’s purely down to attraction or a lack of it (and not just physical attraction). | |||
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"Past experience stops me messaging. I really like them but I suspect I may not meet their preference in one area. Last time I did meet someone who I suspected the same of it did not end well for me. Humiliating, absolutely destroyed my confidence for about 18 months." Would anyone really say no those thighs?! | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years I think it’s such a shame this is a thing for humans. There’s no such thing as leagues, it’s purely down to attraction or a lack of it (and not just physical attraction). " This is what I think too. Not all women go for what’s seen as the “typically attractive” man. Half the celebrities people mention on here and in real life I just don’t see it at all. Having said that I do often think there’s no way he’ll want to meet me. | |||
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"The thing that gets me is when people say things like "but no, you're x/y/z, you shouldn't feel that way". Don't say that, please. It can make the person feel like their feelings aren't valid, aren't acceptable. And like they're not being taken seriously. It's crappy feeling this way, but our feelings are valid. Try saying something along the lines of "you might think it, but I think a/b/c"" | |||
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"The thing that gets me is when people say things like "but no, you're x/y/z, you shouldn't feel that way". Don't say that, please. It can make the person feel like their feelings aren't valid, aren't acceptable. And like they're not being taken seriously. It's crappy feeling this way, but our feelings are valid. Try saying something along the lines of "you might think it, but I think a/b/c"" | |||
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"Past experience stops me messaging. I really like them but I suspect I may not meet their preference in one area. Last time I did meet someone who I suspected the same of it did not end well for me. Humiliating, absolutely destroyed my confidence for about 18 months. Would anyone really say no those thighs?!" I could handle thigh rejection. When what's between them is apparently not big enough and she points and laughs, that's a difficult one to brush off. | |||
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" I just don't agree. You might not like the phrase "out of their league" but people generally gravitate towards people of their level of attractiveness. " I think attraction is subjective and therefore that's not actually the case. Someone way out of my league is apparently gravitating towards me | |||
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"Past experience stops me messaging. I really like them but I suspect I may not meet their preference in one area. Last time I did meet someone who I suspected the same of it did not end well for me. Humiliating, absolutely destroyed my confidence for about 18 months. Would anyone really say no those thighs?! I could handle thigh rejection. When what's between them is apparently not big enough and she points and laughs, that's a difficult one to brush off." That's an awful thing to do to someone. I'm sorry. | |||
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"Past experience stops me messaging. I really like them but I suspect I may not meet their preference in one area. Last time I did meet someone who I suspected the same of it did not end well for me. Humiliating, absolutely destroyed my confidence for about 18 months. Would anyone really say no those thighs?! I could handle thigh rejection. When what's between them is apparently not big enough and she points and laughs, that's a difficult one to brush off." I know. I remember you saying. That’s such a shit thing to do. And I get why you felt like that xx | |||
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"The thing that gets me is when people say things like "but no, you're x/y/z, you shouldn't feel that way". Don't say that, please. It can make the person feel like their feelings aren't valid, aren't acceptable. And like they're not being taken seriously. It's crappy feeling this way, but our feelings are valid. Try saying something along the lines of "you might think it, but I think a/b/c"" Feels like some of that here is simping, do you think? It's frustrating when I see people being so honest and vulnerable but what they've said is immediately negated. | |||
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"Most of the time i think they are out of my league" I agree. | |||
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"Just reading the Without Context thread and I am amazed at the number of people who don’t message someone they want to. I don’t get that - what have you got to lose? What stops you from messaging people?" I do message people, but not always. I might think they won't be interested in me. Lack of confidence. I'm also crap at making first moves at times. | |||
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"I don’t like rejection…. And I’m a realist, I hate the term ‘leagues’ but I am aware of my looks and there are some absolutely beautiful men who I would message if I was better looking and more in their ‘league’. That, and I’m lazy." You shouldnt feel like you cant measage anyone you are incedibly hot | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years Boom - this is the key. Everyone thinks someone is out of their league when in fact no one is. I just don't agree. You might not like the phrase "out of their league" but people generally gravitate towards people of their level of attractiveness. " I can give you a list of things that I don’t find attractive about myself. I can also give you a list of people who I think are top drawer who don’t actually care about those things. It took me a long time to realise that different people like different things and you may well have that thing they want in bucket loads. | |||
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"Just reading the Without Context thread and I am amazed at the number of people who don’t message someone they want to. I don’t get that - what have you got to lose? What stops you from messaging people?" On Fab I find it tricky because what if they send me a face picture and I’m not even remotely attracted to them, then what? Awkward back step? Oh I know messaged you first but erm actually no thanks | |||
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"Most of the time i think they are out of my league" Yes this for me too is part of the reason I don’t | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years Boom - this is the key. Everyone thinks someone is out of their league when in fact no one is. I just don't agree. You might not like the phrase "out of their league" but people generally gravitate towards people of their level of attractiveness. " I agree with your don't agree. Just being a realist. It's different if they want to punch down and make the first move but life experience tells me that with the opposite sex to stay in my lane until invited. It is what it is.. | |||
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"Fear of rejection, cause I'm a big girl This is me as well. " Nonsense - we love BBW . I do . That idea of Barbie is perfect and everyone else is crap ? Is Magazine . Is social media making everyone Slaiv to sale products : Same engine as church now is social magazine They make money making us feel like shit . Men shy in front of they mates cause they in love and have a massive hard on with a big girl in the local bar . He loves look at her for ages But is embarrassing cause everyone wil laugh She ? She is depressive , cause she likes him , loves when each other eyes cross in the air But is convinced she is dimmed cause is so big and hate herself . Nonsense : is all market . Social brain wash Is fake . Bigger girls is hot . I love BBW . And many others do . And the idiot who dares to humiliate a lady for any reason related to that ? is not a man . is a fragment of embarrassment among us . | |||
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"Just reading the Without Context thread and I am amazed at the number of people who don’t message someone they want to. I don’t get that - what have you got to lose? What stops you from messaging people? I don’t mind messaging women/couples to get a conversation going (that said, I haven’t felt like it for ages). My occasional reticence is down to not wanting to be shot down by anyone I actually really like. If I know they’re not interested, I’d rather save myself the disappointment and try to move on." I have had a secret (can't remember if i told you, i usually do..) crush on you for quite some time. What usually stops me is distance.. Having said that, if you reply ( no pressure) in the forum, I'll never catch it. X | |||
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"Past experience stops me messaging. I really like them but I suspect I may not meet their preference in one area. Last time I did meet someone who I suspected the same of it did not end well for me. Humiliating, absolutely destroyed my confidence for about 18 months. Would anyone really say no those thighs?! I could handle thigh rejection. When what's between them is apparently not big enough and she points and laughs, that's a difficult one to brush off." Thats just disgusting behaviour, bullet dodged there. Sending hugs. | |||
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"Just reading the Without Context thread and I am amazed at the number of people who don’t message someone they want to. I don’t get that - what have you got to lose? What stops you from messaging people? On Fab I find it tricky because what if they send me a face picture and I’m not even remotely attracted to them, then what? Awkward back step? Oh I know messaged you first but erm actually no thanks" I have had people say I am not for them after they have sent the first message and I have sent a picture. That life. I think I would rather have a “thanks but not for me” than a straight block. | |||
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"Past experience stops me messaging. I really like them but I suspect I may not meet their preference in one area. Last time I did meet someone who I suspected the same of it did not end well for me. Humiliating, absolutely destroyed my confidence for about 18 months. Would anyone really say no those thighs?! I could handle thigh rejection. When what's between them is apparently not big enough and she points and laughs, that's a difficult one to brush off." What a silly girl, she clearly has no idea what the attraction is of a strong pair of thighs! | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years Boom - this is the key. Everyone thinks someone is out of their league when in fact no one is. I just don't agree. You might not like the phrase "out of their league" but people generally gravitate towards people of their level of attractiveness. I can give you a list of things that I don’t find attractive about myself. I can also give you a list of people who I think are top drawer who don’t actually care about those things. It took me a long time to realise that different people like different things and you may well have that thing they want in bucket loads." It's my experience as a single woman that if it looks too good to be true, it is. I'm a pragmatic person. And I've been used enough times to be very cynical about men's interest. (That's my experience, not gendered). | |||
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"The thing that gets me is when people say things like "but no, you're x/y/z, you shouldn't feel that way". Don't say that, please. It can make the person feel like their feelings aren't valid, aren't acceptable. And like they're not being taken seriously. It's crappy feeling this way, but our feelings are valid. Try saying something along the lines of "you might think it, but I think a/b/c" Feels like some of that here is simping, do you think? It's frustrating when I see people being so honest and vulnerable but what they've said is immediately negated. " I don't know about simping so much, I think it is usually genuine. But negating honesty and vulnerability is the part that makes me sad. | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years Boom - this is the key. Everyone thinks someone is out of their league when in fact no one is. I just don't agree. You might not like the phrase "out of their league" but people generally gravitate towards people of their level of attractiveness. I agree with your don't agree. Just being a realist. It's different if they want to punch down and make the first move but life experience tells me that with the opposite sex to stay in my lane until invited. It is what it is.." I don’t think life experience and fab experience are the same thing - they definitely aren’t for me. | |||
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"As I've read through this thread tonight I've started to write a comment numerous times and then thought, nah that's a load of nonsense your typing. Probably the same reasons that stop me replying more tonight are the same reasons I have very few conversations of any substance with someone on here. Although it does happen and when it does it suprises me. " Just go for it and press send on the comments | |||
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"Just reading the Without Context thread and I am amazed at the number of people who don’t message someone they want to. I don’t get that - what have you got to lose? What stops you from messaging people?" I just never be so bold to think they'd be interested | |||
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"The thing that gets me is when people say things like "but no, you're x/y/z, you shouldn't feel that way". Don't say that, please. It can make the person feel like their feelings aren't valid, aren't acceptable. And like they're not being taken seriously. It's crappy feeling this way, but our feelings are valid. Try saying something along the lines of "you might think it, but I think a/b/c" Feels like some of that here is simping, do you think? It's frustrating when I see people being so honest and vulnerable but what they've said is immediately negated. I don't know about simping so much, I think it is usually genuine. But negating honesty and vulnerability is the part that makes me sad." I'm too cynical compared to you, Posh! You say things so much nicer ( bad English but...) | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years I think it’s such a shame this is a thing for humans. There’s no such thing as leagues, it’s purely down to attraction or a lack of it (and not just physical attraction). This is what I think too. Not all women go for what’s seen as the “typically attractive” man. Half the celebrities people mention on here and in real life I just don’t see it at all. Having said that I do often think there’s no way he’ll want to meet me. " And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) | |||
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"As I've read through this thread tonight I've started to write a comment numerous times and then thought, nah that's a load of nonsense your typing. Probably the same reasons that stop me replying more tonight are the same reasons I have very few conversations of any substance with someone on here. Although it does happen and when it does it suprises me. " I've always found if I'm prepared to take the risk and open up on a forum, other people will respond. And the conversations open up. Maybe ? | |||
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"The thing that gets me is when people say things like "but no, you're x/y/z, you shouldn't feel that way". Don't say that, please. It can make the person feel like their feelings aren't valid, aren't acceptable. And like they're not being taken seriously. It's crappy feeling this way, but our feelings are valid. Try saying something along the lines of "you might think it, but I think a/b/c"" I’m afraid that’s all completely wrong | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years I think it’s such a shame this is a thing for humans. There’s no such thing as leagues, it’s purely down to attraction or a lack of it (and not just physical attraction). This is what I think too. Not all women go for what’s seen as the “typically attractive” man. Half the celebrities people mention on here and in real life I just don’t see it at all. Having said that I do often think there’s no way he’ll want to meet me. And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here)" Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! | |||
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"As I've read through this thread tonight I've started to write a comment numerous times and then thought, nah that's a load of nonsense your typing. Probably the same reasons that stop me replying more tonight are the same reasons I have very few conversations of any substance with someone on here. Although it does happen and when it does it suprises me. I've always found if I'm prepared to take the risk and open up on a forum, other people will respond. And the conversations open up. Maybe ? " Maybe I just need to give myself a shake then | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years I think it’s such a shame this is a thing for humans. There’s no such thing as leagues, it’s purely down to attraction or a lack of it (and not just physical attraction). This is what I think too. Not all women go for what’s seen as the “typically attractive” man. Half the celebrities people mention on here and in real life I just don’t see it at all. Having said that I do often think there’s no way he’ll want to meet me. And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! " I often think I'm just not going to be as good at the sex, after I've read the veris. I'm no pretzel. | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead No such thing as leagues though. Someone said that to me once and it turned out I’d thought the same so neither of us had messaged. We saw each other for 2 years I think it’s such a shame this is a thing for humans. There’s no such thing as leagues, it’s purely down to attraction or a lack of it (and not just physical attraction). This is what I think too. Not all women go for what’s seen as the “typically attractive” man. Half the celebrities people mention on here and in real life I just don’t see it at all. Having said that I do often think there’s no way he’ll want to meet me. And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! I often think I'm just not going to be as good at the sex, after I've read the veris. I'm no pretzel. " pretzel | |||
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" I often think I'm just not going to be as good at the sex, after I've read the veris. I'm no pretzel. I think the best sex is as much in the mind as anything else and everyone can be good at that." Finding that psychological connection is essential however not everyone is on the same wavelength. | |||
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" And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! " Yes, I must admit I do that, too. I know what I look like compared to other guys and so when I see someone I fancy I *might* think “She’ll never go for me given the choices she’s got”. But the point to which we have both eluded is that one just never knows. It’s not always about just physical attraction or, if it is, they might be more into abc than xyz. | |||
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"Distance. This is one thing I never look at as I'm here to find guys I like, not guys that are convenient. " I think the same way. But then I got really into someone (different site) down in Swansea. Just wasn't possible for it to work. I was a bit gutted, must be life in my dark heart still somewhere. | |||
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" And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! Yes, I must admit I do that, too. I know what I look like compared to other guys and so when I see someone I fancy I *might* think “She’ll never go for me given the choices she’s got”. But the point to which we have both eluded is that one just never knows. It’s not always about just physical attraction or, if it is, they might be more into abc than xyz." True. FAF? | |||
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" And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! Yes, I must admit I do that, too. I know what I look like compared to other guys and so when I see someone I fancy I *might* think “She’ll never go for me given the choices she’s got”. But the point to which we have both eluded is that one just never knows. It’s not always about just physical attraction or, if it is, they might be more into abc than xyz." I think we're all our own worst critics when it comes to attractiveness | |||
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" And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! Yes, I must admit I do that, too. I know what I look like compared to other guys and so when I see someone I fancy I *might* think “She’ll never go for me given the choices she’s got”. But the point to which we have both eluded is that one just never knows. It’s not always about just physical attraction or, if it is, they might be more into abc than xyz. True. FAF?" Haha!!! You little rascal Yea, go in then, I’ve got some time to kill this weekend | |||
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" And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! Yes, I must admit I do that, too. I know what I look like compared to other guys and so when I see someone I fancy I *might* think “She’ll never go for me given the choices she’s got”. But the point to which we have both eluded is that one just never knows. It’s not always about just physical attraction or, if it is, they might be more into abc than xyz." It is about physical attraction first, then she gets to know you then if you pass the getting to know, you get to meet | |||
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"Not being enough Stop that. You're the sort of woman I'd take away for a dirty week away Oh you " Well I would. Past interactions tell me time and money would be well spent. An investment dont doubt yourself xx | |||
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" And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! Yes, I must admit I do that, too. I know what I look like compared to other guys and so when I see someone I fancy I *might* think “She’ll never go for me given the choices she’s got”. But the point to which we have both eluded is that one just never knows. It’s not always about just physical attraction or, if it is, they might be more into abc than xyz. I think we're all our own worst critics when it comes to attractiveness " We worry that everyone sees our flaws when in reality everyone is worried about theirs and don’t notice ours. | |||
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"The thing that gets me is when people say things like "but no, you're x/y/z, you shouldn't feel that way". Don't say that, please. It can make the person feel like their feelings aren't valid, aren't acceptable. And like they're not being taken seriously. It's crappy feeling this way, but our feelings are valid. Try saying something along the lines of "you might think it, but I think a/b/c" I’m afraid that’s all completely wrong " You're pulling my pigtails, aren't you | |||
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" And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! Yes, I must admit I do that, too. I know what I look like compared to other guys and so when I see someone I fancy I *might* think “She’ll never go for me given the choices she’s got”. But the point to which we have both eluded is that one just never knows. It’s not always about just physical attraction or, if it is, they might be more into abc than xyz. True. FAF? Haha!!! You little rascal Yea, go in then, I’ve got some time to kill this weekend " Deal. Wear those tight pants | |||
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"The thing that gets me is when people say things like "but no, you're x/y/z, you shouldn't feel that way". Don't say that, please. It can make the person feel like their feelings aren't valid, aren't acceptable. And like they're not being taken seriously. It's crappy feeling this way, but our feelings are valid. Try saying something along the lines of "you might think it, but I think a/b/c" I’m afraid that’s all completely wrong You're pulling my pigtails, aren't you " My day wouldn’t be complete if I wasn’t pulling something | |||
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"The thing that gets me is when people say things like "but no, you're x/y/z, you shouldn't feel that way". Don't say that, please. It can make the person feel like their feelings aren't valid, aren't acceptable. And like they're not being taken seriously. It's crappy feeling this way, but our feelings are valid. Try saying something along the lines of "you might think it, but I think a/b/c" I’m afraid that’s all completely wrong You're pulling my pigtails, aren't you My day wouldn’t be complete if I wasn’t pulling something " I feel like that about sucking | |||
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" And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! Yes, I must admit I do that, too. I know what I look like compared to other guys and so when I see someone I fancy I *might* think “She’ll never go for me given the choices she’s got”. But the point to which we have both eluded is that one just never knows. It’s not always about just physical attraction or, if it is, they might be more into abc than xyz. True. FAF? Haha!!! You little rascal Yea, go in then, I’ve got some time to kill this weekend Deal. Wear those tight pants " Pervert As long as you wear those stockings | |||
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"From a men's perspective I can only presume that they don't message because their message will simply add to the other person's ever-increasing InBox, and thus remain unread for perpetuity. The perception remains that it's a futile effort. · this too. Heard all the stories of womens inundated in boxes and think why bother adding to it. I always work on the assumption that ultimately if someone likes you they will let you know. I'm a very small fish in a very big pond. I very aware that the people I like are WAY out of my league so just add them to my hotlist instead " • Regardless of whether being in or out of someone's league matters or not, it's still a normal human condition to feel that way. I don't prescribe to the "league" theory; my reservations are down to not meeting their criteria. Hence why I haven't sent an •introductory• message in almost two years. Women do indeed send messages. | |||
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"Just reading the Without Context thread and I am amazed at the number of people who don’t message someone they want to. I don’t get that - what have you got to lose? What stops you from messaging people? I do message people, but not always. I might think they won't be interested in me. Lack of confidence. I'm also crap at making first moves at times. " I struggle with aprocahing a starter in public . Online I don’t struggle to message . I’m shielded . And once we meet , hang out , I may be dead to jump on a lady , but respecting her space , I feel very shy . Then I struggle with a first move . I been taken as not being interested for this before … she thought I didn’t wanted when I was only being polite and a gentleman ^^ | |||
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" And what I also meant to write is that no one in this world is better than anyone else. That’s what leagues make think of - elitism. Horrible. We’re all human beans. We might look and think differently but we’re equally valuable and valid. Therefore, one should never feel out of someone else’s league. If you fancy them, great. They may not fancy you and that is just a personal preference. But if they do…… (insert fireworks emoji here) Yeah I’ve never liked the league thing. Hate it. But I do get the not messaging someone because you think they’re too hot for you thing. Or looking at who they’ve met before and seeing how hot they are! Yes, I must admit I do that, too. I know what I look like compared to other guys and so when I see someone I fancy I *might* think “She’ll never go for me given the choices she’s got”. But the point to which we have both eluded is that one just never knows. It’s not always about just physical attraction or, if it is, they might be more into abc than xyz. True. FAF? Haha!!! You little rascal Yea, go in then, I’ve got some time to kill this weekend Deal. Wear those tight pants Pervert As long as you wear those stockings " No problem | |||
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"Ironicy in all other aspects of life I am super outgoing and confident. When someone has clearly expressed an interest I have no problem. I just never put myself forward as potentially being anyone's first choice. I always think she could do much better than me. It's probably the only negative emotion I have about myself. Probably stems from being told I was ugly and no one would ever want me by my parents. To this day my mum still says it. Weird. This is a great thread so much better than the usual drivel, thank you OP and everyone that has contributed." I agree great thoughts from everyone. | |||
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"Pretty much first 3 replays summed it all up for me. I've never "chatted" anyone up, never asked anyone out, assume everyone out of my league. I have never messaged anyone first and never will." I’d chat to you if you were near us.. love your pics | |||
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"Rejection hurts. Sometimes I take a rush of blood to the head and do it though Fully agree" Rejection and I’m to old | |||
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"For me personally, I've been in that position where I've liked someone too much and I do everything to not go there again. " I can understand that, when it’s self protection then your own self care is paramount, but for me I also think what if? And thats what makes me want to try. But any man that gets to have your attention on them is a truly lucky guy. | |||
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"Distance. Fully agree why are all the hotties so far away " But ravel mate, take the plunge. I travelled all the way to Glasgow and had a fantastic time. | |||
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"Distance. Fully agree why are all the hotties so far away But ravel mate, take the plunge. I travelled all the way to Glasgow and had a fantastic time. " Jeezz that’s not a short trip | |||
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"Distance. Fully agree why are all the hotties so far away But ravel mate, take the plunge. I travelled all the way to Glasgow and had a fantastic time. Jeezz that’s not a short trip " No but we made a full weekend of it and it went far too quickly. But was an awesome weekend. | |||
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"Distance. Fully agree why are all the hotties so far away But ravel mate, take the plunge. I travelled all the way to Glasgow and had a fantastic time. Jeezz that’s not a short trip No but we made a full weekend of it and it went far too quickly. But was an awesome weekend. " Aww that Makes the travelling worth while then | |||
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