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"Chugger lol never heard that name before" Cant remember where it came from now lol | |||
"Chugger lol never heard that name before Cant remember where it came from now lol" CHarity mUGGER | |||
"I have had similar experiences from female chuggers, they try and flatter you and give you compliments etc, just to try to get you to sign up. Like you though, I am very cautious about giving my details to a stranger in the street. I do give to charity, through a subscription i set up via the charities website - and while I appreciate that they have to do a lot to get our money, the street vending approach must have limited value." It was the whole personal space thing and being called "luv" by someone so young trying to sort of sell something. | |||
"Chugger lol never heard that name before Cant remember where it came from now lol CHarity mUGGER" Cheers Onny  | |||
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"Chugger lol never heard that name before Cant remember where it came from now lol CHarity mUGGER Cheers Onny "Hate them with a passion!! They're rude, pushy and don't like taking no for an answer! That and I'd rather give directly to charities than chuggers - paying someone to pressure people to donate is not on in my book! | |||
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"An RSPB chugger asked me "Do you like birds" "Not since the accident" "What accident" he asked "I don't like to talk about it" He left it at that." I like that one lol I normally do ignore them but for some stupid reason I thought I'd give him a chance. At 12quid an hour they can bugger off! If I was hard faced Id give it a go  | |||
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"Not quite a chugger but our local big issue vendor who's of Spanish or Mexican descent has a mouth full of gold teeth and apparently at the end of his shift he climbs into his Audi a4 and drives home to his family. Apparently there is a Facebook pertition about it ?" Which of those 'crimes' would bar him from being a Big Issue seller? | |||
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"Im not the big issue police but I thought the whole thing was set up so homeless people were vendors and the proceeds of theyre sales would either help them pay for food or a bed for the night" So are you listening to heresay about this person....or have you follwed them home in their Audi A4 and sat outside their house?... These things tend to turn out to be urban myths | |||
"Im not the big issue police but I thought the whole thing was set up so homeless people were vendors and the proceeds of theyre sales would either help them pay for food or a bed for the night" It's not quite that straighforward. Sellers don't actually have to be homeless. The 'rule' is "Becoming a vendor gives people who are homeless or sleeping rough, in temporary accommodation, in danger of losing a home or unemployed and facing financial crisis the opportunity to sell a weekly entertainment and current affairs magazine to earn money." | |||
"Just been into town and got stopped by a chugger. He was about 18 if that and kept calling me 'luv' and stood right up close (in my personal space) which made me feel really uncomfortable. At first I thought, I'll hear you out, as I was early for an interview and felt a bit sorry for him as it's freezing out. Anyway, he asked my first name, which I told him, but he proceeded to call me 'luv'. Started saying I looked good and all that shite, felt like I was being touted by a club promoter in Tenerife or somewhere. He then sped read from a card about this charity. Which would be one I'd support, but I wasnt willing to give my bank details to a stranger on the street and told him so. He then went on and said "But its only 2.50 a week luv. What the big deal?!" At that point I just shook my head and walked off. I now know why I and a lot of others avoid them. Has anyone else had a similar experience with a 'chugger' (charity workers on the street)?" They get a very very brusque 'no thank you' from me. I have one charity which I regularly donate to. I loathe the end of checkout ones - usually children (scouts, etc) who offer to pack your shopping (badly). I feel it is emotional manipulation - making you feel guilty enough to put some money in the bucket. I never ever give them a thing and pack my own bags. | |||
"Im not the big issue police but I thought the whole thing was set up so homeless people were vendors and the proceeds of theyre sales would either help them pay for food or a bed for the night It's not quite that straighforward. Sellers don't actually have to be homeless. The 'rule' is "Becoming a vendor gives people who are homeless or sleeping rough, in temporary accommodation, in danger of losing a home or unemployed and facing financial crisis the opportunity to sell a weekly entertainment and current affairs magazine to earn money."" Is there any ruling on Gold Teeth? Or a stipulation that the vendor may only drive a 20 year old Ford Escort? | |||
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"Just say already signed up. Always gets an 'oh' and crestfallen look" He he I do this too. No comeback from them and not rude. No one actually asks what I signed up for Scarlett | |||
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"i dont understand how they are allowed to perster you (and follow you down the street one one occasion) yet the little old ladies collecting for the local dog charity etc are not allowed to rattle their tins in supermarket doorways....they just have to sit there all hopeful that someone will dontate "Amongst the rules they should abide by are fundraisers must not: ¦follow a person for more than three steps ¦stand within 3m of a shop doorway, cashpoint, pedestrian crossing or station entrance ¦sign up to a Direct Debit anyone unable to give informed consent through illness, disability, or drink or drugs ¦approach any members of the public who are working, such as tour guides or newspaper vendors Local councils can add rules about times, locations etc. | |||
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"Just say already signed up. Always gets an 'oh' and crestfallen look" They're usually around in packs and that's what I say, "Just signed up with your mate down the road." Works every time. I do it with RAC/AA too. In fact anyone trying to get me to sign up I always say I'm already a donator. | |||
"I loathe the end of checkout ones - usually children (scouts, etc) who offer to pack your shopping (badly). I feel it is emotional manipulation - making you feel guilty enough to put some money in the bucket. I never ever give them a thing and pack my own bags." ditto. If I wanted my loaves of bread flat packed I'd let them pack them for me, but I like my bread nice and plump. | |||
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"i dont understand how they are allowed to perster you (and follow you down the street one one occasion) yet the little old ladies collecting for the local dog charity etc are not allowed to rattle their tins in supermarket doorways....they just have to sit there all hopeful that someone will dontate "I think there's a new law came out recently regarding "chuggers" only allowed to follow you for a couple of steps or something along those lines. They can't follow you or harass you. | |||
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"Just been into town and got stopped by a chugger. He was about 18 if that and kept calling me 'luv' and stood right up close (in my personal space) which made me feel really uncomfortable. At first I thought, I'll hear you out, as I was early for an interview and felt a bit sorry for him as it's freezing out. Anyway, he asked my first name, which I told him, but he proceeded to call me 'luv'. Started saying I looked good and all that shite, felt like I was being touted by a club promoter in Tenerife or somewhere. He then sped read from a card about this charity. Which would be one I'd support, but I wasnt willing to give my bank details to a stranger on the street and told him so. He then went on and said "But its only 2.50 a week luv. What the big deal?!" At that point I just shook my head and walked off. I now know why I and a lot of others avoid them. Has anyone else had a similar experience with a 'chugger' (charity workers on the street)?" 'Fuck off' is normally sufficient for them to get the message | |||
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"Having worked in the charity world, (for an overseas disaster relief agency), I can honestly say, with some insight, that I detest the chugging that goes on in the streets. The problem however, is that it works Sure, the chuggers rarely work for the actual charity, but instead for a company that the charity has contracted, that in the first year takes most of your donations, (point this out next time you're stopped). However, the charities really do benefit after year 1, and evidence shows most people won't stop a £2 direct debit.... Especially if the marketing is right..... It makes money for the charity, and gets the brand out there. Personally, we made the choice not to use chuggers because of the responses like these on here, but, for some, it does work If you want to give to charity, set up a direct debit directly to the charity, that way you can be sure they are getting all your money. And yes, giving money to a charity is infinitely better than giving goods, they can use the money most appropriately, don't have the storage and distribution costs locally, and can actually put the money into the communities they are trying to help...." Hear what you say, but the thought that a charity is *paying* a PRIVATE COMPANY to raise donations, whilst many people give their time freely - and unawarely - to the same charity makes us sick to our stomach. The only way we will gove to charity is very carefully selected special events charity (like the Scottish schoolgirl who set up a justgiving page for meals for African schoolkids). Macmillan, Help the Aged, etc can go without. Making a profit out of charity ... very Tory idea  | |||
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" ........ And yes, giving money to a charity is infinitely better than giving goods, they can use the money most appropriately, don't have the storage and distribution costs locally, and can actually put the money into the communities they are trying to help...." It also makes it easier for them to pay their own wages. Whilst I appreciate that charities feel it's important to keep themselves going so they can continue to do 'good work', there are some, I put it no stronger than that, which seem to exist for no more reason than to pay senior members of staff far more than they'd ever earn in the real world. Factor in the duplication of effort where loads of charities are doing very similar work whilst having to support the overheads of each of them and you begin to wonder just how much of any money raised end up going to the intended cause. | |||
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"I'm not going to deny that is true of some charities. I guess you just have to do your research, look at their accounts and make your own mind up if you trust them to maximise your donation Cynicism is necessary, but don't let it pervade. Sermon over!" Looking at the accounts 1) isn't as easy as it sounds. Despite their obligations, some charities drag their heels about releasing such info and 2) rarely does more than reveal the salaries of a few senior members of staff. The Charity Commission and OSCR need to do some work in this area. | |||
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"Id love to know how long the average person the chugger signs up, stays with that charity before they cancel. Im not sure its much use if they sign people up on a high street, for that person to then cancel 3 months later. " you're right, its not....see my earlier comment about the amount of time the chugging company get the majority of the donations. But, over 50% of people dont cancle until at least year 3... | |||
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