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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!

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By *acdoodleMan  over a year ago

Birmingham

I know exactly how you feel but just get in with it and enjoy yourself. Loads of funny and interesting things disgust on here leave the cliques to the cliquers I say x

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!"

At the risk of being a bit 'contentious', why not be a bit extreme?.

One regular (wholly in the bowel movement sense) poster has already confessed to deliberately posting provocative messages.

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By *rs and mr sanddancerCouple  over a year ago

Boldon

If there is one then I'm not in it - I post as and when I feel and as honestly as I can. There is banter going on between regular posters but I don't think this can be classed as being the 'c' word.

I've been attacked when something I've written has been misinterpreted - mainly because I didn't express myself completely and missed context information but I have also had support and agreement on other posts so just keep posting and take nothing to heart xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I know exactly how you feel but just get in with it and enjoy yourself. Loads of funny and interesting things disgust on here leave the cliques to the cliquers I say x"

Disgust?!??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I dont think there is either ...... sometimes it appears like it but thats cos like minded people are all posting similar things ........... just keep posting and join in ............ and before you know it you will be as insane as the rest of us !!!!

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By *rs and mr sanddancerCouple  over a year ago

Boldon


"I know exactly how you feel but just get in with it and enjoy yourself. Loads of funny and interesting things disgust on here leave the cliques to the cliquers I say x

Disgust?!??"

Oh no! The grammar spelling police will be out next lol

I hope the poster meant discussed but then again.......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!"

Not as a whole however there are groups who flock together and self praise the same as happens in a pub or a club. There are other elements that feel threatened by newcomers so are a little aggressive in the hope they give it up. There are others who see one person as being weaker or less competent and take great delight in feeding off their flesh. It happens on many a site and not specific to here.

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By *acdoodleMan  over a year ago

Birmingham


"I know exactly how you feel but just get in with it and enjoy yourself. Loads of funny and interesting things disgust on here leave the cliques to the cliquers I say x

Disgust?!??

Oh no! The grammar spelling police will be out next lol

I hope the poster meant discussed but then again.......

"

Oh no. Not the spelling police I'm off sharpish x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I dont think there is either ...... sometimes it appears like it but thats cos like minded people are all posting similar things ........... just keep posting and join in ............ and before you know it you will be as insane as the rest of us !!!! "

I am getting there lol

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By *acdoodleMan  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!

Not as a whole however there are groups who flock together and self praise the same as happens in a pub or a club. There are other elements that feel threatened by newcomers so are a little aggressive in the hope they give it up. There are others who see one person as being weaker or less competent and take great delight in feeding off their flesh. It happens on many a site and not specific to here. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The way I see it is you join in and make friends. That's how the forum works. I don't think there's a clique I think there's regulars. There's a difference.

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By *r and mrs sanddancerCouple  over a year ago

BOLDON COLLIERY


"I know exactly how you feel but just get in with it and enjoy yourself. Loads of funny and interesting things disgust on here leave the cliques to the cliquers I say x

Disgust?!??

Oh no! The grammar spelling police will be out next lol

I hope the poster meant discussed but then again.......

"

oh is it just the old grans that can be spelling police now

where's granny crumpet when you need her

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!

Not as a whole however there are groups who flock together and self praise the same as happens in a pub or a club. There are other elements that feel threatened by newcomers so are a little aggressive in the hope they give it up. There are others who see one person as being weaker or less competent and take great delight in feeding off their flesh. It happens on many a site and not specific to here. "

Raymond - we do believe yer onto something.

X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think it's gone back to being good fun. It went through a stage of being awful so I stayed away. Lots of new faces now mingled in with the "regs" and it's nice to see. Banter and nippy-ness seems to be on a more even keel now

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

Of course there is, in fact i think there are three or four, some move from one to another....ive been here too long and seen so many come and go....

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I think it's gone back to being good fun. It went through a stage of being awful so I stayed away. Lots of new faces now mingled in with the "regs" and it's nice to see. Banter and nippy-ness seems to be on a more even keel now "

Nippy ness? Explain x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hi guys! It's been said many a time before - and fingers crossed Fabio (definite non clique member) will come along with his perfect 'pub' analogy. (Only so I don't have to search the forums and cut and paste!)

If not - do a quick search using the word. 'Clique' and see what crops up. I used to think there was one - til I joined it - sorry, meant got involved with the forums more and got to know sound regulars and new posters alike.

Please, please , please - the myth is only perpetuated by those that use it as a cop out or who don't want to use the forums for the right reasons - asking questions, replying to posts - or just contributing as and when they want to the endless sources of amusement!

Come one - come all !!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think it's gone back to being good fun. It went through a stage of being awful so I stayed away. Lots of new faces now mingled in with the "regs" and it's nice to see. Banter and nippy-ness seems to be on a more even keel now

Nippy ness? Explain x"

Sorry, that's my Scottish coming through lol best way I can describe it is people poking at each other for a fight and being generally obnoxious!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Everyone that uses the forums was a newbie once.

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By *rs and mr sanddancerCouple  over a year ago

Boldon


"I know exactly how you feel but just get in with it and enjoy yourself. Loads of funny and interesting things disgust on here leave the cliques to the cliquers I say x

Disgust?!??

Oh no! The grammar spelling police will be out next lol

I hope the poster meant discussed but then again.......

Oh no. Not the spelling police I'm off sharpish x"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I love the forum been made very welcome and people seem to have the same warped sense of humour as me lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi guys! It's been said many a time before - and fingers crossed Fabio (definite non clique member) will come along with his perfect 'pub' analogy. (Only so I don't have to search the forums and cut and paste!)

If not - do a quick search using the word. 'Clique' and see what crops up. I used to think there was one - til I joined it - sorry, meant got involved with the forums more and got to know sound regulars and new posters alike.

Please, please , please - the myth is only perpetuated by those that use it as a cop out or who don't want to use the forums for the right reasons - asking questions, replying to posts - or just contributing as and when they want to the endless sources of amusement!

Come one - come all !! "

we had something similar to this a few days ago .......... where a few of us said the same, we thought everyone knew and met each other regularly when we first started posting and then found out that they didnt all meet up often lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi guys! It's been said many a time before - and fingers crossed Fabio (definite non clique member) will come along with his perfect 'pub' analogy. (Only so I don't have to search the forums and cut and paste!)

If not - do a quick search using the word. 'Clique' and see what crops up. I used to think there was one - til I joined it - sorry, meant got involved with the forums more and got to know sound regulars and new posters alike.

Please, please , please - the myth is only perpetuated by those that use it as a cop out or who don't want to use the forums for the right reasons - asking questions, replying to posts - or just contributing as and when they want to the endless sources of amusement!

Come one - come all !! "

Well I don't cop out or don't want to use the forums and I can see cliques in the forums so that blows your theory out of the water.

There is the other side of looking at it that follows the principle the people who are in cliques or groups are the ones who voice the loudest there isn't one.

The facts though point towards not one clique but a number of them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi guys! It's been said many a time before - and fingers crossed Fabio (definite non clique member) will come along with his perfect 'pub' analogy. (Only so I don't have to search the forums and cut and paste!)

If not - do a quick search using the word. 'Clique' and see what crops up. I used to think there was one - til I joined it - sorry, meant got involved with the forums more and got to know sound regulars and new posters alike.

Please, please , please - the myth is only perpetuated by those that use it as a cop out or who don't want to use the forums for the right reasons - asking questions, replying to posts - or just contributing as and when they want to the endless sources of amusement!

Come one - come all !!

Well I don't cop out or don't want to use the forums and I can see cliques in the forums so that blows your theory out of the water.

There is the other side of looking at it that follows the principle the people who are in cliques or groups are the ones who voice the loudest there isn't one.

The facts though point towards not one clique but a number of them. "

surely a clique is a group of people that dont let others in ............. if there are cliques on here only the same members of those cliques would be able to post ............ the forums allow everyone to post and regular posters encourage others to post as well that doesnt signify a clique

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


" ................

.............. we thought everyone knew and met each other regularly when we first started posting and then found out that they didnt all meet up often lol "

Or that they don't exist outwith their own imagination.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am not in a clique, just a league of my own.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi guys! It's been said many a time before - and fingers crossed Fabio (definite non clique member) will come along with his perfect 'pub' analogy. (Only so I don't have to search the forums and cut and paste!)

If not - do a quick search using the word. 'Clique' and see what crops up. I used to think there was one - til I joined it - sorry, meant got involved with the forums more and got to know sound regulars and new posters alike.

Please, please , please - the myth is only perpetuated by those that use it as a cop out or who don't want to use the forums for the right reasons - asking questions, replying to posts - or just contributing as and when they want to the endless sources of amusement!

Come one - come all !!

Well I don't cop out or don't want to use the forums and I can see cliques in the forums so that blows your theory out of the water.

There is the other side of looking at it that follows the principle the people who are in cliques or groups are the ones who voice the loudest there isn't one.

The facts though point towards not one clique but a number of them.

surely a clique is a group of people that dont let others in ............. if there are cliques on here only the same members of those cliques would be able to post ............ the forums allow everyone to post and regular posters encourage others to post as well that doesnt signify a clique "

There are groups who DON'T welcome new posters, there is a thread from earlier today where a newer poster was picked on by multiple regulars. There are people who have been constantly belittled by certain groups. People have had timeouts, threads removed etc and this has gone on for years. You might feel uncomfortable people pointing this out but to try an pretend its all nicey nicey is a very blinkered _iew.

There are many who don't get involved and walk their own path but there are many others who have flock mentality and will join in on a bitchfeist on an individual. Obviously I can't name names but ~I think if you have been on here a while its impossible to miss.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


" .............

There are groups who DON'T welcome new posters, there is a thread from earlier today where a newer poster was picked on by multiple regulars. There are people who have been constantly belittled by certain groups. People have had timeouts, threads removed etc and this has gone on for years. You might feel uncomfortable people pointing this out but to try an pretend its all nicey nicey is a very blinkered _iew.

There are many who don't get involved and walk their own path but there are many others who have flock mentality and will join in on a bitchfeist on an individual. Obviously I can't name names but ~I think if you have been on here a while its impossible to miss. "

There are groups which only welcome new posters who don't rock the boat.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

As we thought, so no different to posting pretty much anywhere on the net.

It's a shame; really thought Fabs was different. Based on what we don't know.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I just see it as people who know each other. I've not been on here too long yet I talk to anyone on here. I've not felt pushed out.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

following on from above, yes people have had timeouts, yes people follow others, and as other people have pointed out we were all newcomers once, I wasn't joining in with that post today because I knew it was getting contentious and the contraversials ones I keep away from - in every level of society you will get people of likemindness sticking together - newcomers are welcome otherwise there wouldnt be the likes of me in here and a few other new posters

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"As we thought, so no different to posting pretty much anywhere on the net.

It's a shame; really thought Fabs was different. Based on what we don't know."

It's not about Fab. Fab, compared to much of the web is very, very tolerant.

Fabsters, however, are a different kettle of fish.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why would FAB be any different to any forum boards?

By nature of natural distribution, there will always be those who feel they do not belong to the majority.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"following on from above, yes people have had timeouts, yes people follow others, and as other people have pointed out we were all newcomers once, I wasn't joining in with that post today because I knew it was getting contentious and the contraversials ones I keep away from - in every level of society you will get people of likemindness sticking together - newcomers are welcome otherwise there wouldnt be the likes of me in here and a few other new posters "

So you see you are well aware when its happening, who is doing it and who is the victim. The only question I have to ask is why you went to lengths to try and put forward the opposite.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Why would FAB be any different to any forum boards?

By nature of natural distribution, there will always be those who feel they do not belong to the majority.

"

Yeah, like BNF members, Tory cabinets ministers and similar low-lifes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Why naturally, because we thought the lifestyle would reflect itself in the people. So, welcoming, accommodating, inclusive.

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Why would FAB be any different to any forum boards?

By nature of natural distribution, there will always be those who feel they do not belong to the majority.

Yeah, like BNF members, Tory cabinets ministers and similar low-lifes.

"

So people who feel excluded on here are low lifes then? What strange thing to say.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"following on from above, yes people have had timeouts, yes people follow others, and as other people have pointed out we were all newcomers once, I wasn't joining in with that post today because I knew it was getting contentious and the contraversials ones I keep away from - in every level of society you will get people of likemindness sticking together - newcomers are welcome otherwise there wouldnt be the likes of me in here and a few other new posters

So you see you are well aware when its happening, who is doing it and who is the victim. The only question I have to ask is why you went to lengths to try and put forward the opposite. "

that wasnt a clique that was one post today out of how many?

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Why would FAB be any different to any forum boards?

By nature of natural distribution, there will always be those who feel they do not belong to the majority.

Yeah, like BNF members, Tory cabinets ministers and similar low-lifes.

So people who feel excluded on here are low lifes then? What strange thing to say. "

What a strange thing to question.

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Why would FAB be any different to any forum boards?

By nature of natural distribution, there will always be those who feel they do not belong to the majority.

Yeah, like BNF members, Tory cabinets ministers and similar low-lifes.

So people who feel excluded on here are low lifes then? What strange thing to say.

What a strange thing to question."

Not really given the thread subject....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Since when does one find one agreeing with everyone else in a group situation?

I have not.

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By *nnyMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"...............

So people who feel excluded on here are low lifes then? What strange thing to say.

What a strange thing to question.Not really given the thread subject...."

Not strange at all. Especially in the context of the OP.

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Since when does one find one agreeing with everyone else in a group situation?

I have not.

"

Its not about agreeing necessarily pearl, its about accepting what other peoples perceptions are as i see it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Since when does one find one agreeing with everyone else in a group situation?

I have not.

Its not about agreeing necessarily pearl, its about accepting what other peoples perceptions are as i see it? "

and thats it in a nutshell, we all have different perceptions and should have the ability to be tolerant and accepting of others

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"following on from above, yes people have had timeouts, yes people follow others, and as other people have pointed out we were all newcomers once, I wasn't joining in with that post today because I knew it was getting contentious and the contraversials ones I keep away from - in every level of society you will get people of likemindness sticking together - newcomers are welcome otherwise there wouldnt be the likes of me in here and a few other new posters

So you see you are well aware when its happening, who is doing it and who is the victim. The only question I have to ask is why you went to lengths to try and put forward the opposite. "

Having been on here a number of years - it seems to me that the people who shout 'clique' the loudest fall into two camps.

Those that by their own unwillingness to join in in a constructive and positive manner make themselves appear unpopular - and those that feel the due to the length of time they've apparently 'been on the scene' feel they have some kind of god given gift to 'educate' others as to. 'How things are'.

The forums are an opportunity for all. Introduce yourselves, ask questions, talk bollocks, and yes, on occasion give and take the piss in a friendly, lighthearted way.

It seems to me that over the last couple of years things have been a lot more welcoming to nod and all . But as is always the case with the forums - if things irritate you - as the guidance notes say - maybe it's best to take a step back and not post.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There was a thread today started by a newbie, their first post ever in the forums, and I sat and watched for a while as the poor person was linched!!

It wasn't pleasant to watch at all!!

And all to often this happens, someone will start a post that maybe sounds silly or not very intellectual and it's like feeding time in the lions den!

My guess is that person won't be posting again in the forums, which is a great shame as we were all new once!

And yes I would say there is a clique from time to time, as there is in any forum boards

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And I will also add that most of the time the forums are a fun place! We have made some friends on them, some that we have met at a social and quite a few that we havent!

At the end of the day you get out of this site what you put in!

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By *ce WingerMan  over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman  over a year ago

Deviant City


"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet "

I'll join if you invite me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet

I'll join if you invite me "

Me too ! Do I get a hat?

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By *ce WingerMan  over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet

I'll join if you invite me

Me too ! Do I get a hat? "

You may have to blag a Fez off Funky

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By *ce WingerMan  over a year ago

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"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet

I'll join if you invite me "

Will have to hear you purring first

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet

I'll join if you invite me

Me too ! Do I get a hat?

You may have to blag a Fez off Funky "

No worries - when he /invictus reappears from wherever their time machine pops up ill ask nicely!

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By *hole Lotta RosieWoman  over a year ago

Deviant City


"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet

I'll join if you invite me

Will have to hear you purring first "

It's a deal

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By *ce WingerMan  over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Right, so I've got a sharp dressed man in a Fez and a noisy cat

Well it's a start I suppose

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Right, so I've got a sharp dressed man in a Fez and a noisy cat

Well it's a start I suppose "

Fuck me!

If that's not the perfect clique I'm not Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen!

Bugger!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ohhhhhhh you mentioned the "C" word

you do know the golden rule is never mention the c word....as the c gang all insist there's no such thing

I travel alone thru the forums and alone I stand

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By *ce WingerMan  over a year ago

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"

If that's not the perfect clique I'm not Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen!"

Does that mean I'm going to have to let "Smoocher" out from under my floorboards "?"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I like to devour the Lesser Spotted Swinger with a passion. One can usually spot them hiding in the undergrowth trying not to be noticed but I'm onto them!

Why hello there! MuHahaha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!"

I agree fully with this, would definitely say there's a handful or so that I would describe as being in a clique

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There was a thread today started by a newbie, their first post ever in the forums, and I sat and watched for a while as the poor person was linched!!

It wasn't pleasant to watch at all!!

And all to often this happens, someone will start a post that maybe sounds silly or not very intellectual and it's like feeding time in the lions den!

My guess is that person won't be posting again in the forums, which is a great shame as we were all new once!

And yes I would say there is a clique from time to time, as there is in any forum boards "

Seen lots of newbies post and get lynched just because they have asked something that's already been asked. I can see harm in answering their questions in a helpful manner, direct them nicely to search forums feature, which they may not know exists. Writing comments like pull up chair and pass pop corn, is hardly welcoming or helpful

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By *ce WingerMan  over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Ah shit, there was me hoping to go get some shuteye and you have to mention popcorn

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"following on from above, yes people have had timeouts, yes people follow others, and as other people have pointed out we were all newcomers once, I wasn't joining in with that post today because I knew it was getting contentious and the contraversials ones I keep away from - in every level of society you will get people of likemindness sticking together - newcomers are welcome otherwise there wouldnt be the likes of me in here and a few other new posters

So you see you are well aware when its happening, who is doing it and who is the victim. The only question I have to ask is why you went to lengths to try and put forward the opposite.

Having been on here a number of years - it seems to me that the people who shout 'clique' the loudest fall into two camps.

Those that by their own unwillingness to join in in a constructive and positive manner make themselves appear unpopular - and those that feel the due to the length of time they've apparently 'been on the scene' feel they have some kind of god given gift to 'educate' others as to. 'How things are'.

The forums are an opportunity for all. Introduce yourselves, ask questions, talk bollocks, and yes, on occasion give and take the piss in a friendly, lighthearted way.

It seems to me that over the last couple of years things have been a lot more welcoming to nod and all . But as is always the case with the forums - if things irritate you - as the guidance notes say - maybe it's best to take a step back and not post."

In your generalisation you have forgotten that there is quite a few like me who have also been here a few years. I certainly wouldn't count myself in either group as I have no desire to join in some of the uninteresting nonsensical crap that they have to post several times per day nor the hijacking of another thread as they do, nor do I go around thinking I am gods gift because I have been here a few years; that would make me arrogant, something I most certainly am not!

There is a huge difference in joining in in a constructive and positive manner to having a laugh about another member by lynching, as another poster said, or hijacking their thread because they can and will, hiding behind their keyboard bored shitless with nothing to do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And I will also add that most of the time the forums are a fun place! We have made some friends on them, some that we have met at a social and quite a few that we havent!

At the end of the day you get out of this site what you put in! "

With this comment, it is almost like you are back tracking on what you have said above

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!"

Why on earth would you want to 'belong' to any percieved inner circle?

There are members on here who will only reply to each others posts and end up derailing threads and openly flirting. But they aren't always the same members, so to say there is a 'clique' is probably incorrect. As others have said, its more than one and I am sure people do feel pressured to belong.

Just be yourselves and join in or don't join in as you wish. There's no rule that says you have to agree slavishly with anyone on here to get approval. You'll notice your posts igmored and any good points you make passed over for a flirt fest but you have to get used to that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Why on earth would you want to 'belong' to any percieved inner circle?

Just be yourselves and join in or don't join in as you wish."

This....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Why on earth would you want to 'belong' to any percieved inner circle?

Just be yourselves and join in or don't join in as you wish.

This.... "

Yes this

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By *ohohoWoman  over a year ago

Up North

I feel that I need to comment on this thread. As a relative newcomer I have found the forum informative and friendly. People have answered my questions and given really useful advice. Of course their are people who are regulars on here as on any forum, but they have been the most welcoming.

Just my opinion and experience on here so far

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!

Not as a whole however there are groups who flock together and self praise the same as happens in a pub or a club. There are other elements that feel threatened by newcomers so are a little aggressive in the hope they give it up. There are others who see one person as being weaker or less competent and take great delight in feeding off their flesh. It happens on many a site and not specific to here. "

I agree with you Raymondo.

There are some on here that talk utter bollocks all the time, those that are sycophants that group together, those that come on for fun and are genuinely funny, those that use it as keyboard warriors.

I never used the forums when I first joined, because I did not like the cliqueyness of some. My OH was a regular contributer and said to give it a try. I now post as I feel fit and what I feel like posting... and bollocks to what others think, join in or dont, makes no difference to me.

I dont know what thread it was where the clique circled and attacked the newbie, but I find that sad. I am sure these people would not do that in real life. Bullying is abhorrent and I hope the MODs took action.

I know I have had private conversations and PMs with people on here for a few months now, all of us agreeing that the forums are not what they were and are being spoiled by a few. But the only way to change that is to participate, and not abandon it all together.

But as Voltaire once said "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

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By *empting Devil.Woman  over a year ago

Sheffield

If it is a clique it's one you can gain membership of by dint of sharp elbows and a determination to keep posting even if you occasionally get shot down!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!"

we would love to be in your gang xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am one of those who will openly flirt with people I fancy even during a completely unrelated subject being discussed. It's no different to real life when, in a group of people, some will flirt in the hope it may lead somewhere else later.

This is a site primarily devoted to people who have above average sex drives and want to find others with which to share that, but it's not just about sex, there needs to be that spark (for some) and a bit of banter between people who have seen each other's photos and want to get to know the person behind them goes a long way to satisfying the cravings for sex we all had that drove us to join a site like this in the first place.

Obviously, the longer someone has been a member here the more 'friends' they are likely to have made, the more banter they are likely to engage in and they are more likely to be seen by newbies as established members of a clique.

But here's the thing about cliques:

They don't exist to people who are considered by others to be in them. Only people who feel on the outside looking in feel that there are cliques. Over time they become known and they automatically become part of the fabric of the site, and lo, a newbie joins and sees them as part of a clique.

All it takes on here to succeed is time and typing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well I'm a relative newbie too and I don't think that at all! I class it as some have known each other a long time, and understand and get each others sense of humour. Yes there are some who are very nasty and I've been gobsmacked at some of the comments. But that's just their negativity! I myself love the fact that there is serious Informative posts and also some that have had me spitting out my coffee with laughter. The Diversity of the Formums is what, for me made them very addictive

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By *nfieldishCouple  over a year ago

Enfield

That

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is there a clique – well no, I don’t think there is, not in dictionary definition terms anyway (as some of you have pointed out), but there groups of prolific posters who, shall we say, share the love between each other.

The evidence is there as to why people would think it – take the ‘Fab Forum awards’ where the winner is the man/woman/rubber farm animal with 3 whole votes – given the number of people posting/reading on the forums, the fact someone won the award for ‘Best Worn like a Hat’ with three whole votes does mean that either the majority are not interested or simply don’t vote - as its perceived as an ‘inner circle love-in’.

There have been widely mentioned parties, planned out in the forums but bereft of attendees save for what I think quite a few people perceive as ‘the popular few’. The whole ‘Colin’ in-joke was all over forums, but only a handful of people were actually in on the joke.

The above are not criticisms – they are some acute observations as to why some people *may* think there is a clique.

Far more people read than post. I think people see a topic thread, watch people posting good, well thought out responses just to be ignored because three or four people are having a sideways chat and a couple of others are hanging on the coat-tails. Then there are others who post to be provocative, illicit a strong reaction or just general want to see the forums burn with a war of words. When the slanging starts, it scares many people off so they don’t feel they dare post.

I stopped being bothered by what people I’ve never met (nor am likely to meet) think of who I am based on my posts in a public forum on a swinging site. As long as I don’t break the rules and I feel that what post is fair and considered (from my point of _iew) I really don’t care what other people think. I have no agenda for getting in anyone’s panties, or do I expect to be on anyone’s award list or private party invites. People can choose to read, respond, ignore, criticise how they see fit.

Just get stuck in and post, the rest will take care of itself.

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush

I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. "

Ok, I fess up, I'm in a clique, but it's so cliquey that it's a clique of one and no, you can't fucking join. It's mine! All mine!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. "

The problem is though, that membership and operation of the perceived clique is just that - subjective perception by an individual.

Others will refute it, some will disagree with the membership list.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Others will refute it, some will disagree with the membership list. "

If ya name's not on the list ya ain't coming in. Got it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Others will refute it, some will disagree with the membership list.

If ya name's not on the list ya ain't coming in. Got it? "

I 'got it' a loooong time ago!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. "

In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Others will refute it, some will disagree with the membership list.

If ya name's not on the list ya ain't coming in. Got it?

I 'got it' a loooong time ago! "

ok, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, wanna buy some photos of my wife?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Others will refute it, some will disagree with the membership list.

If ya name's not on the list ya ain't coming in. Got it?

I 'got it' a loooong time ago!

ok, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, wanna buy some photos of my wife? "

Cant I just see then for free on here?

Or are these the special interest ones?

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By *bbandflowCouple  over a year ago

South Devon


"Is there a clique – well no, I don’t think there is, not in dictionary definition terms anyway (as some of you have pointed out), but there groups of prolific posters who, shall we say, share the love between each other.

The evidence is there as to why people would think it – take the ‘Fab Forum awards’ where the winner is the man/woman/rubber farm animal with 3 whole votes – given the number of people posting/reading on the forums, the fact someone won the award for ‘Best Worn like a Hat’ with three whole votes does mean that either the majority are not interested or simply don’t vote - as its perceived as an ‘inner circle love-in’.

There have been widely mentioned parties, planned out in the forums but bereft of attendees save for what I think quite a few people perceive as ‘the popular few’. The whole ‘Colin’ in-joke was all over forums, but only a handful of people were actually in on the joke.

The above are not criticisms – they are some acute observations as to why some people *may* think there is a clique.

Far more people read than post. I think people see a topic thread, watch people posting good, well thought out responses just to be ignored because three or four people are having a sideways chat and a couple of others are hanging on the coat-tails. Then there are others who post to be provocative, illicit a strong reaction or just general want to see the forums burn with a war of words. When the slanging starts, it scares many people off so they don’t feel they dare post.

I stopped being bothered by what people I’ve never met (nor am likely to meet) think of who I am based on my posts in a public forum on a swinging site. As long as I don’t break the rules and I feel that what post is fair and considered (from my point of _iew) I really don’t care what other people think. I have no agenda for getting in anyone’s panties, or do I expect to be on anyone’s award list or private party invites. People can choose to read, respond, ignore, criticise how they see fit.

Just get stuck in and post, the rest will take care of itself.

"

You couldn't be more spot on if you had smashed a Phd in Spottonishness at a top Uni!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. "

and get banned for naming and shaming?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. "

I have been here now over 4 / 5 years and when i first come i feel it was hard to chat with out others getting together backing each other up ... That come from people being friends and meeting them at clubs thay have a strong bond and you see it here and come across as a click ... Myself i have my own mind and will say things how i see them no matter what others say ... as i have to be true to myself ... things here are alot better now and other sites i have been on are really bad so always felt ok here as we know the mods on other sites you don't alot of the time and no one to be there if you need help.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Maybe it's their personal preference to be in said clique/s

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way."

Oh yes, so you do. Good post

Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved.

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am one of those who will openly flirt with people I fancy even during a completely unrelated subject being discussed. It's no different to real life when, in a group of people, some will flirt in the hope it may lead somewhere else later.

This is a site primarily devoted to people who have above average sex drives and want to find others with which to share that, but it's not just about sex, there needs to be that spark (for some) and a bit of banter between people who have seen each other's photos and want to get to know the person behind them goes a long way to satisfying the cravings for sex we all had that drove us to join a site like this in the first place.

Obviously, the longer someone has been a member here the more 'friends' they are likely to have made, the more banter they are likely to engage in and they are more likely to be seen by newbies as established members of a clique.

But here's the thing about cliques:

They don't exist to people who are considered by others to be in them. Only people who feel on the outside looking in feel that there are cliques. Over time they become known and they automatically become part of the fabric of the site, and lo, a newbie joins and sees them as part of a clique.

All it takes on here to succeed is time and typing."

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush


"

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

and get banned for naming and shaming? "

24 hours is hardly going to kill someone if they feel that strongly about it

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent

Who or what is Colin?! X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who or what is Colin?! X "

You reeealy want to know?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who or what is Colin?! X "

A plastic chicken who toured the cocks and breasts of the country

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By *bbandflowCouple  over a year ago

South Devon


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way.

Oh yes, so you do. Good post

Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved.

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that. "

'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

and get banned for naming and shaming?

24 hours is hardly going to kill someone if they feel that strongly about it "

Ok go on then fire away, who are they?

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way.

Oh yes, so you do. Good post

Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved.

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that.

'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?"

In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine.

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By *bbandflowCouple  over a year ago

South Devon


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way.

Oh yes, so you do. Good post

Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved.

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that.

'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?

In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine. "

Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users

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By *els_BellsWoman  over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc

Yes and no.

Sometimes some posts have an 'in' joke which is off putting. Some threads can go off on a tangent. Some threads can be like a pack of wolves ready to pounce. I think Prof said it well. (bit long so didnt copy no offence, just on my phone)

If I dont like a post I will 99% of the time move on.

I have gotten into arguments with other posters who may have been perceived as part of the clique. Do I care? Do I fig.

Only time I care is if I realise I am wrong and I will hold my hands up and will try and apologise.

Posters who feel theres a clique, I guess a lot of forumites (posters and lurkers) have felt it over some time, my advice would be just post and have fun. If you feel you are being picked on, criticised and so on report the post.

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By *els_BellsWoman  over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that.

'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?

In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine.

Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users"

I state in my post 'users' and 'lurkers' as I differentiate between them as who knows how many lurk?!

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way.

Oh yes, so you do. Good post

Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved.

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that.

'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?

In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine.

Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users"

Because the points raised were regarding people not wanting to join in because they were put off/wary. My example of the 'Colin' scenario was showing how it actually encouraged others who hadn't posted before to join in.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

whenever it comes up I always wonder what the complaint is...

is it that there is a clique and people want to be part of it.....

there are certain things that like it or not people have to realise....

some people are drawn together because they have been talking for a long time, or because they have met at the various socials or clubs

some people are drawn to various types of threads.... some are drawn to the serious, some are drawn to the fluff, some are drawn to complete dross....

some people are going to annoy the hell out of you... some people aren't.... and some will speak up with reagrds to that, and others wont...

but clique is one of those words that it is easy to throw out there... normally for those who haven't been around ....

pub analogy coming... actually forget it... I'll ask a question instead...

when was the last time a stranger went into a pub and everyone shouted there name and greeted them like a long lost brother....

I'm guessing unless the pub is "cheers", its never happened... and even then they don't

am I part of a clique... hell no!, I'll comment on stuff i am interested in... what i see is a group of people who have gotten to know each other over time.. just like you would in a pub.... damn it I said i wouldn't go there!!!!

now... i missed what happened earlier so I can't comment, if it was removed... good, people now probably have 48hrs to think about it....

it is a big all encompassing group of varying opinions out there.... the object isn't to like everyone, the object is to be civil enough so that everyone can co-exist....

do i think that throwing out the clique accusations do that.... no....it just throws people backs up and creates more turmoil in the very thing we are trying to do..... co-exist!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way.

Oh yes, so you do. Good post

Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved.

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that.

'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?"

I'd say so.

Forum newbies: new to the forums

Forum lurkers: those who read the forums but rarely post

Forum regulars: speaks for itself.

Class: any distinction between different things; classification; type

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well I'm a relative newbie too and I don't think that at all! I class it as some have known each other a long time, and understand and get each others sense of humour. Yes there are some who are very nasty and I've been gobsmacked at some of the comments. But that's just their negativity! I myself love the fact that there is serious Informative posts and also some that have had me spitting out my coffee with laughter. The Diversity of the Formums is what, for me made them very addictive "

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo


"

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

and get banned for naming and shaming?

24 hours is hardly going to kill someone if they feel that strongly about it "

Be careful with that advice....sometimes it is more than 24 hours and if people get many of them they get a perm

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By *londeCazWoman  over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way.

Oh yes, so you do. Good post

Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved.

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that.

'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?

In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine.

Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users"

Lurkers - those who mostly read the forums, seldom post (can sometimes be found dipping their toe on "Lurker and Newbie" shout out threads)...can't bring any to mind as don't see names often enough to remember

Newbies - we were all there once, out of interest I checked back t'other day to find my first post(s) and they seemed to be Nov of 2011 so I didn't lurk for long before diving in...current example of newbie is Sirjohnnie, maybe in a couple of months he'll be a regular (not sure how long the probation period is )

Regular - fixture and fitting of the forum for as long as they're around (such as myself), possibly perceived as part of the clique, may have a picture stashed somewhere with a plastic chicken (or wooden duck seeing as Colin couldn't be found in Cumbria)

It's not terms that are meant to be divisive or demeaning (that's not the word I'm groping for but I can't think of another one) as I read your post to imply, classifications don't necessarily have to do that...for example the group "jockeys" can be subdivided into profeshnuls , amateurs, national hunt, hackers and flat racers

To the OP - is there a clique? I don't think so, but if anyone wants to PM me as a clique member along with other members then that's not a problem - there are some posters whose style of writing appeals to me (nowt to do with sexy pics, honest) and I'll almost always contribute to posts they start and there are others who don't appeal as much or at all and I seldom contribute to those threads unless it's a serious subject I feel I need to state my opinion on (doesn't happen often, I struggle to take things too seriously). I also abhor bullying and will take issue on threads where I perceive there to be an issue - this doesn't mean I think those doing the bullying are part of some clique

Anyhow, that's far too fecking serious for 10 am...I'm off to the bookies to put a tenner each way on "Tesco's Finest" in the 3.40 at Cheltenham

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By *unky monkeyMan  over a year ago

in the night garden

I would be surprised if perceived clique members are even aware they are _iewed that way and even more so I think to everyone that shouts 'clique' the clique members are different and unique to their personal experience.

We can't name and shame but I'd bet a significant amount of internet points that if everyone had to post who they thought was in a clique we would end up with a fuck off list featuring more or less every forum user.

An old chinese internet proverb: The clique exists within.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

Ok, I fess up, I'm in a clique, but it's so cliquey that it's a clique of one and no, you can't fucking join. It's mine! All mine!! "

Can I be on your clique? We're the only ones who make sense on here!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

Ok, I fess up, I'm in a clique, but it's so cliquey that it's a clique of one and no, you can't fucking join. It's mine! All mine!!

Can I be on your clique? We're the only ones who make sense on here! "

No, fuck off.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You know what happens if you mention clique 3 times you all get bumped back to Kansas !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You know what happens if you mention clique 3 times you all get bumped back to Kansas ! "

Or bettleguise appears I'm

Not sure which I'm

Too much of a Colin too try !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that.

'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?

In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine.

Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users

I state in my post 'users' and 'lurkers' as I differentiate between them as who knows how many lurk?! "

I just 'lurked' all the way to the last post, and I was a 'newbie' in the forums once upon a time (and I hasten to add, made to feel extremely welcome)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Betelgeuse is the star in the upper left corner of the constellation of Orion, and it's due to go supernova sometime soon, maybe even as soon as next year, around tea time. We'll see it as a second sun in our sky for a few weeks and it will light up the night sky like our own sun does during the day. Can't wait. I like supernovas.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Betelgeuse is the star in the upper left corner of the constellation of Orion, and it's due to go supernova sometime soon, maybe even as soon as next year, around tea time. We'll see it as a second sun in our sky for a few weeks and it will light up the night sky like our own sun does during the day. Can't wait. I like supernovas. "

Oh get you dr Brian cox if it does go into supernova 'things can only get better'

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

and get banned for naming and shaming?

24 hours is hardly going to kill someone if they feel that strongly about it

Be careful with that advice....sometimes it is more than 24 hours and if people get many of them they get a perm "

a curly perm..

bugger that..

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By *els_BellsWoman  over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that.

'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?

In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine.

Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users

I state in my post 'users' and 'lurkers' as I differentiate between them as who knows how many lurk?!

I just 'lurked' all the way to the last post, and I was a 'newbie' in the forums once upon a time (and I hasten to add, made to feel extremely welcome) "

I just jumped in with both feet, but I admit I initially felt like the OP.

I still feel like it now on occasions as I dont post as often, but there are forms of cliques in all walks of life I guess.

Im too gobby and moody at times to be in anyone else's clique, I'm in my own little world and happy here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that.

'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?

In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine.

Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users

I state in my post 'users' and 'lurkers' as I differentiate between them as who knows how many lurk?!

I just 'lurked' all the way to the last post, and I was a 'newbie' in the forums once upon a time (and I hasten to add, made to feel extremely welcome)

I just jumped in with both feet, but I admit I initially felt like the OP.

I still feel like it now on occasions as I dont post as often, but there are forms of cliques in all walks of life I guess.

Im too gobby and moody at times to be in anyone else's clique, I'm in my own little world and happy here

"

I like your thinking.

IF there is a clique, I couldn't give a monkeys chuff if I'm in it or not. Forum threads, good/bad/flirty/hijacked are what makes the fab-world go around. The mods will deal with what they deem inappropriate posts, as they see fit. People will always have an opinion, its human nature - and sometimes its easier to articulate it via a keyboard (sometimes not ) But its just that, opinions, and we're all entitled to them, agreeable or not

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By *els_BellsWoman  over a year ago

with the moon n stars somewhere in gtr manc


"

I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that.

'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?

In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine.

Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users

I state in my post 'users' and 'lurkers' as I differentiate between them as who knows how many lurk?!

I just 'lurked' all the way to the last post, and I was a 'newbie' in the forums once upon a time (and I hasten to add, made to feel extremely welcome)

I just jumped in with both feet, but I admit I initially felt like the OP.

I still feel like it now on occasions as I dont post as often, but there are forms of cliques in all walks of life I guess.

Im too gobby and moody at times to be in anyone else's clique, I'm in my own little world and happy here

I like your thinking.

IF there is a clique, I couldn't give a monkeys chuff if I'm in it or not. Forum threads, good/bad/flirty/hijacked are what makes the fab-world go around. The mods will deal with what they deem inappropriate posts, as they see fit. People will always have an opinion, its human nature - and sometimes its easier to articulate it via a keyboard (sometimes not ) But its just that, opinions, and we're all entitled to them, agreeable or not "

spot on for me x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I get most of my enjoyment of fab out of the forums and have met in person some amazing people who I now genuinely can all friends. If there is a clique (which I don't think there is) its made of a group of people who chat regularly on here, in private and have or are going to meet.

There was a group of 5 of us in Canada at stupid o'clock last night and we were having a great chat, now these people I have met because of the forums. One I have met in a club, one beats me at words with friends, one I'm on a meet with next week and one, when I am next down in the south west, I hope to meet for a chat. These people aren't part of a clique, they are regulars I talk to.

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush

Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In the social sciences, the word "clique" is used to describe a group of 2 to 12 (averaging 5 or 6) "persons who interact with each other more regularly and intensely than others in the same setting".[1] Interacting with cliques is part of normative social development regardless of gender, ethnicity, or popularity. Although cliques are most commonly studied during adolescence and middle childhood, they exist in all age groups.

This was taken from Wikipedia! The definition of clique,

So reading this definition, would you still say there isn't a clique?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In the social sciences, the word "clique" is used to describe a group of 2 to 12 (averaging 5 or 6) "persons who interact with each other more regularly and intensely than others in the same setting".[1] Interacting with cliques is part of normative social development regardless of gender, ethnicity, or popularity. Although cliques are most commonly studied during adolescence and middle childhood, they exist in all age groups.

This was taken from Wikipedia! The definition of clique,

So reading this definition, would you still say there isn't a clique?

"

Clique has negative connotations in my opinion and I think that is why most, including myself, are so vehemently against it as a word.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In the social sciences, the word "clique" is used to describe a group of 2 to 12 (averaging 5 or 6) "persons who interact with each other more regularly and intensely than others in the same setting".[1] Interacting with cliques is part of normative social development regardless of gender, ethnicity, or popularity. Although cliques are most commonly studied during adolescence and middle childhood, they exist in all age groups.

This was taken from Wikipedia! The definition of clique,

So reading this definition, would you still say there isn't a clique?

Clique has negative connotations in my opinion and I think that is why most, including myself, are so vehemently against it as a word. "

I can see where your coming from, but it doesn't have to be negative, it's just the way it's perceived in the forums!

We all have our own individual ways and opinions, which is what makes the forums!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In the social sciences, the word "clique" is used to describe a group of 2 to 12 (averaging 5 or 6) "persons who interact with each other more regularly and intensely than others in the same setting".[1] Interacting with cliques is part of normative social development regardless of gender, ethnicity, or popularity. Although cliques are most commonly studied during adolescence and middle childhood, they exist in all age groups.

This was taken from Wikipedia! The definition of clique,

So reading this definition, would you still say there isn't a clique?

Clique has negative connotations in my opinion and I think that is why most, including myself, are so vehemently against it as a word.

I can see where your coming from, but it doesn't have to be negative, it's just the way it's perceived in the forums!

We all have our own individual ways and opinions, which is what makes the forums!

"

To me the word clique means no one else is welcome which is certainly not the case here. I agree yesterday it all went a bit Pete Tong with a newbie but quite honestly I think it was inevitable and I was dealt with by HPC quickly. I maintain that there is a group of regulars and the way to join in is to talk.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!"

Are you suggesting that no one listens or replies to your opinions?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana? "

The latter!! Now leave me alone to my one woman clique

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

it is just a big group of mates joshing and having a laugh.... now depending on how & what you post, what is between your legs, how internet/forum savvy you are, how some react to you and of course, your reaction....

put all of that and some more into a big melting pot, out comes a welcomed forumite, or not !!!

it is what it is...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I recommend a rather cunning strategy of simply posting whatever you want, whenever you want, whilst remaining totally apathetic to the debate surrounding the alleged existence of any so called clique undermining your pleasure in doing so. .......

It works for me !!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!"

OP - you jump in whenever, wherever and as often as you want. All forums, no matter what the subject matter, are the same - try and imagine a playground roundabout: all the time kids are on it, it's going round and round, so if you want to jump on it, you have to get up to speed a little then go for it! Once you're on it, you're up with everyone else.

That's what forums, or message boards, are like. The one I used to help invigilate years ago was no different - in fact I would say it was a LOT more off-putting for newcomers than the ones on Fabs would ever be, and was on a subject far removed from this which you would have thought would be 'welcoming'. It was anything but...

Anyway, we don't have a 'clique' on here...... "Faberatti" - YES!!!!! But not a clique....

And welcome, by the way

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"it is just a big group of mates joshing and having a laugh.... now depending on how & what you post, what is between your legs, how internet/forum savvy you are, how some react to you and of course, your reaction....

put all of that and some more into a big melting pot, out comes a welcomed forumite, or not !!!

it is what it is...

"

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By *taffs_hotwifeCouple  over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look.

All you people the feel left out of discussions and blame it on a clique, try talking and joining in, if you still feel like your being bullied or ganged up on report and hit ignore, move onto the next thread and talk to someone worth there salt.

Forums all over the web are the same and will never change. Just like life you get all types of folk helping you, some bitching about you and the worst ones who help you then bitch about you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"it is just a big group of mates joshing and having a laugh.... now depending on how & what you post, what is between your legs, how internet/forum savvy you are, how some react to you and of course, your reaction....

put all of that and some more into a big melting pot, out comes a welcomed forumite, or not !!!

it is what it is...

"

Ohhhhh View,,,,,,, Now I’ve got that old "Blue Mink" song buzzing about in my head,,,,,,,,,,

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By *unky monkeyMan  over a year ago

in the night garden


"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana? "

OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana?

OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again? "

no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man

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By *unky monkeyMan  over a year ago

in the night garden


"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana?

OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again?

no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana?

OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again?

no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man "

He doesn't miss a trick does he?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Well We can't accuse ANYONE now of ignoring us.

We knew offering up a deliberately evocative post would do the trick!

Only joking. Thanks for all your varied opinions on this subject and for the PMs too xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana?

OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again?

no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man

He doesn't miss a trick does he?"

Was just thinking the same

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

Ok, I fess up, I'm in a clique, but it's so cliquey that it's a clique of one and no, you can't fucking join. It's mine! All mine!!

Can I be on your clique? We're the only ones who make sense on here!

No, fuck off. "

hurt.com

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it.

I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all.

Ok, I fess up, I'm in a clique, but it's so cliquey that it's a clique of one and no, you can't fucking join. It's mine! All mine!!

Can I be on your clique? We're the only ones who make sense on here!

No, fuck off.

hurt.com "

Ok, you're in. Who do you wanna talk about?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look.

"

You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look.

You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you?

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look.

You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you?

"

Wad he say???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana?

OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again?

no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man

He doesn't miss a trick does he?

Was just thinking the same "

Aw come on, ONE of his posts was sensible and relevant

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By *ongJohnSilversMan  over a year ago

Oxted

I hope there's no too big a clique on here, sure people have/make friends they chat to regularly but for someone like me who is relatively new to this site people seem friendly enough and most are welcoming!

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By *im and whoreCouple  over a year ago

near bangor


"Hi guys! It's been said many a time before - and fingers crossed Fabio (definite non clique member) will come along with his perfect 'pub' analogy. (Only so I don't have to search the forums and cut and paste!)

If not - do a quick search using the word. 'Clique' and see what crops up. I used to think there was one - til I joined it - sorry, meant got involved with the forums more and got to know sound regulars and new posters alike.

Please, please , please - the myth is only perpetuated by those that use it as a cop out or who don't want to use the forums for the right reasons - asking questions, replying to posts - or just contributing as and when they want to the endless sources of amusement!

Come one - come all !!

Well I don't cop out or don't want to use the forums and I can see cliques in the forums so that blows your theory out of the water.

There is the other side of looking at it that follows the principle the people who are in cliques or groups are the ones who voice the loudest there isn't one.

The facts though point towards not one clique but a number of them.

surely a clique is a group of people that dont let others in ............. if there are cliques on here only the same members of those cliques would be able to post ............ the forums allow everyone to post and regular posters encourage others to post as well that doesnt signify a clique

There are groups who DON'T welcome new posters, there is a thread from earlier today where a newer poster was picked on by multiple regulars. There are people who have been constantly belittled by certain groups. People have had timeouts, threads removed etc and this has gone on for years. You might feel uncomfortable people pointing this out but to try an pretend its all nicey nicey is a very blinkered _iew.

There are many who don't get involved and walk their own path but there are many others who have flock mentality and will join in on a bitchfeist on an individual. Obviously I can't name names but ~I think if you have been on here a while its impossible to miss. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hope there's no too big a clique on here, sure people have/make friends they chat to regularly but for someone like me who is relatively new to this site people seem friendly enough and most are welcoming!"

Stick around... you might want to reconsider that _iewpoint in time...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

There are groups who DON'T welcome new posters"

That's some generalisation. It implies that there is an active group of the same users making life here intolerable for newcomers. I'm sure Admin would have stamped all over them if that were the case.

It appears that 'slamming the noobie' is subjective, as I clearly remember a guy posting in here about swinging with his mum. He was hounded out by almost everyone who posted on his thread. I'm not defending him as I thought he was disgusting as did everyone else, but by the postings on THIS thread it seems that it's ok to hound a noobie if we all do it but not if only a few do it.

That's a tad hypocritical.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

p.s. it's not acceptable to hound any noobie.

..but I think what may start as a joke/wisecrack can very quickly spiral out of control.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

there are little cliques that run around here but who cares.

shouldnt stop anyone voicing themselves

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By *issHottieBottieWoman  over a year ago

Kent

When I was at school there were 8 of is that were inseparable. We weren't the cool kids (far from it) or the geek squad. Just a regular bunch of friends. Suppose we could of been classed as a clique then. I always assumed (and it's been mentioned on other forums I've been on) that the clique were the ones who were kind of bossy and in charge and not very nice to anyone else. X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

There are groups who DON'T welcome new posters

That's some generalisation. It implies that there is an active group of the same users making life here intolerable for newcomers. I'm sure Admin would have stamped all over them if that were the case.

It appears that 'slamming the noobie' is subjective, as I clearly remember a guy posting in here about swinging with his mum. He was hounded out by almost everyone who posted on his thread. I'm not defending him as I thought he was disgusting as did everyone else, but by the postings on THIS thread it seems that it's ok to hound a noobie if we all do it but not if only a few do it.

That's a tad hypocritical."

Slamming the Noobie!

Now, when I read that, I thought of something entirely different!

I don't think there's enough bromide in my tea today - I'm getting all sorts of funny thoughts.

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By *unky monkeyMan  over a year ago

in the night garden


"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana?

OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again?

no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man

He doesn't miss a trick does he?

Was just thinking the same

Aw come on, ONE of his posts was sensible and relevant "

Can a mod delete the post she is referring to. I can't have this!

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By *taffs_hotwifeCouple  over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look.

You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you?

"

You are aware there is a difference between a fleeting visit from time to time and spending all your waking hours on an Internet forum?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look.

You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you?

You are aware there is a difference between a fleeting visit from time to time and spending all your waking hours on an Internet forum?"

I would do, but that would detract from my forum posting time

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By *taffs_hotwifeCouple  over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look.

You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you?

You are aware there is a difference between a fleeting visit from time to time and spending all your waking hours on an Internet forum?

I would do, but that would detract from my forum posting time

"

Just checking. Now pass me your popcorn

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look.

You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you?

You are aware there is a difference between a fleeting visit from time to time and spending all your waking hours on an Internet forum?

I would do, but that would detract from my forum posting time

Just checking. Now pass me your popcorn "

Sweet or Salty

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think this site should have a 'pay per wank' facility and end all these popularity contests and accusations of cliqueyness. We'd know whose top of the clique tree by how many have wanked over them.

Ah fuck it, let's just go to a club and do it for real. Bukkake anyone? One lump or two?

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By *taffs_hotwifeCouple  over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Salty popcorn and bukkake within two posts of each other.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Salty popcorn and bukkake within two posts of each other. "

click click.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Salty popcorn and bukkake within two posts of each other.

click click. "

You leave that Bukkake-Salted Popcorn for 24 hours near a warm radiator, you can probably add Toffee to the list of available flavours too

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By *taffs_hotwifeCouple  over a year ago

Wolverhampton


"Salty popcorn and bukkake within two posts of each other.

click click.

You leave that Bukkake-Salted Popcorn for 24 hours near a warm radiator, you can probably add Toffee to the list of available flavours too"

mmmmmm sweet and sour

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

forums are what you make of them...

i don't always post in the lounge but as i post and reply to dribble im happier in the lounge area but im not in no clique

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush

Hurry up. I want the last word

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hurry up. I want the last word"

tuff lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

perhaps I can have it - please - I am asking nicely lol

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush

Bet I get it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I want it!

Bet it's DaveEwing though - be the fourth one in a week......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

u will get it !!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle.

Weird, we're hardly new!

Why on earth would you want to 'belong' to any percieved inner circle?

There are members on here who will only reply to each others posts and end up derailing threads and openly flirting. But they aren't always the same members, so to say there is a 'clique' is probably incorrect. As others have said, its more than one and I am sure people do feel pressured to belong.

Just be yourselves and join in or don't join in as you wish. There's no rule that says you have to agree slavishly with anyone on here to get approval. You'll notice your posts igmored and any good points you make passed over for a flirt fest but you have to get used to that."

Excellent point

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush

It's mine I tell you. I have developed a system

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By *isscheekychopsWoman  over a year ago

The land of grey peas and bacon

Is it me Ohh please please....

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush


"Hurry up. I want the last word"

WORD

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By *londeCazWoman  over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

Ooooh, please let me have the last word

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just treat others as you would like to be treated folks....join the respect clique

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush

Are you sure

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just treat others as you would like to be treated folks....join the respect clique

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just treat others as you would like to be treated folks....join the respect clique

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just treat others as you would like to be treated folks....join the respect clique

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is it me?... Is it? Really? ...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just treat others as you would like to be treated folks....join the respect clique

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just treat others as you would like to be treated folks....join the respect clique

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Look, if you're gonna steal, at least make it interesting... or are you stuck on a mobile and can't highlight the text to replace it huh huh huh?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just treat others as you would like to be treated folks....join the respect clique

Nuff said

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is it?

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush

So immature

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well who'd of thought it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

not me for one!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

just

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

5 places

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

from

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

the

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You'll get put in the naughty step for being the last poster Ben! ..........oh shit

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By *Ryan-Man  over a year ago

In Your Bush

200 first poster ever. Do what you like now dweebs

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