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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new!" At the risk of being a bit 'contentious', why not be a bit extreme?. One regular (wholly in the bowel movement sense) poster has already confessed to deliberately posting provocative messages. | |||
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"I know exactly how you feel but just get in with it and enjoy yourself. Loads of funny and interesting things disgust on here leave the cliques to the cliquers I say x" Disgust?!?? | |||
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"I know exactly how you feel but just get in with it and enjoy yourself. Loads of funny and interesting things disgust on here leave the cliques to the cliquers I say x Disgust?!??" Oh no! The grammar spelling police will be out next lol I hope the poster meant discussed but then again....... | |||
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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new!" Not as a whole however there are groups who flock together and self praise the same as happens in a pub or a club. There are other elements that feel threatened by newcomers so are a little aggressive in the hope they give it up. There are others who see one person as being weaker or less competent and take great delight in feeding off their flesh. It happens on many a site and not specific to here. | |||
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"I know exactly how you feel but just get in with it and enjoy yourself. Loads of funny and interesting things disgust on here leave the cliques to the cliquers I say x Disgust?!?? Oh no! The grammar spelling police will be out next lol I hope the poster meant discussed but then again....... " Oh no. Not the spelling police I'm off sharpish x | |||
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"I dont think there is either ...... sometimes it appears like it but thats cos like minded people are all posting similar things ........... just keep posting and join in ............ and before you know it you will be as insane as the rest of us !!!! " I am getting there lol | |||
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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new! Not as a whole however there are groups who flock together and self praise the same as happens in a pub or a club. There are other elements that feel threatened by newcomers so are a little aggressive in the hope they give it up. There are others who see one person as being weaker or less competent and take great delight in feeding off their flesh. It happens on many a site and not specific to here. " | |||
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"I know exactly how you feel but just get in with it and enjoy yourself. Loads of funny and interesting things disgust on here leave the cliques to the cliquers I say x Disgust?!?? Oh no! The grammar spelling police will be out next lol I hope the poster meant discussed but then again....... " oh is it just the old grans that can be spelling police now where's granny crumpet when you need her | |||
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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new! Not as a whole however there are groups who flock together and self praise the same as happens in a pub or a club. There are other elements that feel threatened by newcomers so are a little aggressive in the hope they give it up. There are others who see one person as being weaker or less competent and take great delight in feeding off their flesh. It happens on many a site and not specific to here. " Raymond - we do believe yer onto something. X | |||
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"I think it's gone back to being good fun. It went through a stage of being awful so I stayed away. Lots of new faces now mingled in with the "regs" and it's nice to see. Banter and nippy-ness seems to be on a more even keel now " Nippy ness? Explain x | |||
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"I think it's gone back to being good fun. It went through a stage of being awful so I stayed away. Lots of new faces now mingled in with the "regs" and it's nice to see. Banter and nippy-ness seems to be on a more even keel now Nippy ness? Explain x" Sorry, that's my Scottish coming through lol best way I can describe it is people poking at each other for a fight and being generally obnoxious! | |||
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"I know exactly how you feel but just get in with it and enjoy yourself. Loads of funny and interesting things disgust on here leave the cliques to the cliquers I say x Disgust?!?? Oh no! The grammar spelling police will be out next lol I hope the poster meant discussed but then again....... Oh no. Not the spelling police I'm off sharpish x" | |||
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"Hi guys! It's been said many a time before - and fingers crossed Fabio (definite non clique member) will come along with his perfect 'pub' analogy. (Only so I don't have to search the forums and cut and paste!) If not - do a quick search using the word. 'Clique' and see what crops up. I used to think there was one - til I joined it - sorry, meant got involved with the forums more and got to know sound regulars and new posters alike. Please, please , please - the myth is only perpetuated by those that use it as a cop out or who don't want to use the forums for the right reasons - asking questions, replying to posts - or just contributing as and when they want to the endless sources of amusement! Come one - come all !! " we had something similar to this a few days ago .......... where a few of us said the same, we thought everyone knew and met each other regularly when we first started posting and then found out that they didnt all meet up often lol | |||
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"Hi guys! It's been said many a time before - and fingers crossed Fabio (definite non clique member) will come along with his perfect 'pub' analogy. (Only so I don't have to search the forums and cut and paste!) If not - do a quick search using the word. 'Clique' and see what crops up. I used to think there was one - til I joined it - sorry, meant got involved with the forums more and got to know sound regulars and new posters alike. Please, please , please - the myth is only perpetuated by those that use it as a cop out or who don't want to use the forums for the right reasons - asking questions, replying to posts - or just contributing as and when they want to the endless sources of amusement! Come one - come all !! " Well I don't cop out or don't want to use the forums and I can see cliques in the forums so that blows your theory out of the water. There is the other side of looking at it that follows the principle the people who are in cliques or groups are the ones who voice the loudest there isn't one. The facts though point towards not one clique but a number of them. | |||
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"Hi guys! It's been said many a time before - and fingers crossed Fabio (definite non clique member) will come along with his perfect 'pub' analogy. (Only so I don't have to search the forums and cut and paste!) If not - do a quick search using the word. 'Clique' and see what crops up. I used to think there was one - til I joined it - sorry, meant got involved with the forums more and got to know sound regulars and new posters alike. Please, please , please - the myth is only perpetuated by those that use it as a cop out or who don't want to use the forums for the right reasons - asking questions, replying to posts - or just contributing as and when they want to the endless sources of amusement! Come one - come all !! Well I don't cop out or don't want to use the forums and I can see cliques in the forums so that blows your theory out of the water. There is the other side of looking at it that follows the principle the people who are in cliques or groups are the ones who voice the loudest there isn't one. The facts though point towards not one clique but a number of them. " surely a clique is a group of people that dont let others in ............. if there are cliques on here only the same members of those cliques would be able to post ............ the forums allow everyone to post and regular posters encourage others to post as well that doesnt signify a clique | |||
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" ................ .............. we thought everyone knew and met each other regularly when we first started posting and then found out that they didnt all meet up often lol " Or that they don't exist outwith their own imagination. | |||
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"Hi guys! It's been said many a time before - and fingers crossed Fabio (definite non clique member) will come along with his perfect 'pub' analogy. (Only so I don't have to search the forums and cut and paste!) If not - do a quick search using the word. 'Clique' and see what crops up. I used to think there was one - til I joined it - sorry, meant got involved with the forums more and got to know sound regulars and new posters alike. Please, please , please - the myth is only perpetuated by those that use it as a cop out or who don't want to use the forums for the right reasons - asking questions, replying to posts - or just contributing as and when they want to the endless sources of amusement! Come one - come all !! Well I don't cop out or don't want to use the forums and I can see cliques in the forums so that blows your theory out of the water. There is the other side of looking at it that follows the principle the people who are in cliques or groups are the ones who voice the loudest there isn't one. The facts though point towards not one clique but a number of them. surely a clique is a group of people that dont let others in ............. if there are cliques on here only the same members of those cliques would be able to post ............ the forums allow everyone to post and regular posters encourage others to post as well that doesnt signify a clique " There are groups who DON'T welcome new posters, there is a thread from earlier today where a newer poster was picked on by multiple regulars. There are people who have been constantly belittled by certain groups. People have had timeouts, threads removed etc and this has gone on for years. You might feel uncomfortable people pointing this out but to try an pretend its all nicey nicey is a very blinkered _iew. There are many who don't get involved and walk their own path but there are many others who have flock mentality and will join in on a bitchfeist on an individual. Obviously I can't name names but ~I think if you have been on here a while its impossible to miss. | |||
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" ............. There are groups who DON'T welcome new posters, there is a thread from earlier today where a newer poster was picked on by multiple regulars. There are people who have been constantly belittled by certain groups. People have had timeouts, threads removed etc and this has gone on for years. You might feel uncomfortable people pointing this out but to try an pretend its all nicey nicey is a very blinkered _iew. There are many who don't get involved and walk their own path but there are many others who have flock mentality and will join in on a bitchfeist on an individual. Obviously I can't name names but ~I think if you have been on here a while its impossible to miss. " There are groups which only welcome new posters who don't rock the boat. | |||
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"As we thought, so no different to posting pretty much anywhere on the net. It's a shame; really thought Fabs was different. Based on what we don't know." It's not about Fab. Fab, compared to much of the web is very, very tolerant. Fabsters, however, are a different kettle of fish. | |||
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"following on from above, yes people have had timeouts, yes people follow others, and as other people have pointed out we were all newcomers once, I wasn't joining in with that post today because I knew it was getting contentious and the contraversials ones I keep away from - in every level of society you will get people of likemindness sticking together - newcomers are welcome otherwise there wouldnt be the likes of me in here and a few other new posters " So you see you are well aware when its happening, who is doing it and who is the victim. The only question I have to ask is why you went to lengths to try and put forward the opposite. | |||
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"Why would FAB be any different to any forum boards? By nature of natural distribution, there will always be those who feel they do not belong to the majority. " Yeah, like BNF members, Tory cabinets ministers and similar low-lifes. | |||
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"Why would FAB be any different to any forum boards? By nature of natural distribution, there will always be those who feel they do not belong to the majority. Yeah, like BNF members, Tory cabinets ministers and similar low-lifes. " So people who feel excluded on here are low lifes then? What strange thing to say. | |||
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"following on from above, yes people have had timeouts, yes people follow others, and as other people have pointed out we were all newcomers once, I wasn't joining in with that post today because I knew it was getting contentious and the contraversials ones I keep away from - in every level of society you will get people of likemindness sticking together - newcomers are welcome otherwise there wouldnt be the likes of me in here and a few other new posters So you see you are well aware when its happening, who is doing it and who is the victim. The only question I have to ask is why you went to lengths to try and put forward the opposite. " that wasnt a clique that was one post today out of how many? | |||
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"Why would FAB be any different to any forum boards? By nature of natural distribution, there will always be those who feel they do not belong to the majority. Yeah, like BNF members, Tory cabinets ministers and similar low-lifes. So people who feel excluded on here are low lifes then? What strange thing to say. " What a strange thing to question. | |||
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"Why would FAB be any different to any forum boards? By nature of natural distribution, there will always be those who feel they do not belong to the majority. Yeah, like BNF members, Tory cabinets ministers and similar low-lifes. So people who feel excluded on here are low lifes then? What strange thing to say. What a strange thing to question." Not really given the thread subject.... | |||
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"............... So people who feel excluded on here are low lifes then? What strange thing to say. What a strange thing to question.Not really given the thread subject...." Not strange at all. Especially in the context of the OP. | |||
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"Since when does one find one agreeing with everyone else in a group situation? I have not. " Its not about agreeing necessarily pearl, its about accepting what other peoples perceptions are as i see it? | |||
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"Since when does one find one agreeing with everyone else in a group situation? I have not. Its not about agreeing necessarily pearl, its about accepting what other peoples perceptions are as i see it? " and thats it in a nutshell, we all have different perceptions and should have the ability to be tolerant and accepting of others | |||
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"following on from above, yes people have had timeouts, yes people follow others, and as other people have pointed out we were all newcomers once, I wasn't joining in with that post today because I knew it was getting contentious and the contraversials ones I keep away from - in every level of society you will get people of likemindness sticking together - newcomers are welcome otherwise there wouldnt be the likes of me in here and a few other new posters So you see you are well aware when its happening, who is doing it and who is the victim. The only question I have to ask is why you went to lengths to try and put forward the opposite. " Having been on here a number of years - it seems to me that the people who shout 'clique' the loudest fall into two camps. Those that by their own unwillingness to join in in a constructive and positive manner make themselves appear unpopular - and those that feel the due to the length of time they've apparently 'been on the scene' feel they have some kind of god given gift to 'educate' others as to. 'How things are'. The forums are an opportunity for all. Introduce yourselves, ask questions, talk bollocks, and yes, on occasion give and take the piss in a friendly, lighthearted way. It seems to me that over the last couple of years things have been a lot more welcoming to nod and all . But as is always the case with the forums - if things irritate you - as the guidance notes say - maybe it's best to take a step back and not post. | |||
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"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet " I'll join if you invite me | |||
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"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet I'll join if you invite me " Me too ! Do I get a hat? | |||
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"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet I'll join if you invite me Me too ! Do I get a hat? " You may have to blag a Fez off Funky | |||
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"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet I'll join if you invite me " Will have to hear you purring first | |||
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"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet I'll join if you invite me Me too ! Do I get a hat? You may have to blag a Fez off Funky " No worries - when he /invictus reappears from wherever their time machine pops up ill ask nicely! | |||
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"Four fookin' years, and no one's joined my uber clique yet I'll join if you invite me Will have to hear you purring first " It's a deal | |||
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"Right, so I've got a sharp dressed man in a Fez and a noisy cat Well it's a start I suppose " Fuck me! If that's not the perfect clique I'm not Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen! Bugger! | |||
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" If that's not the perfect clique I'm not Lawrence Llewelyn Bowen!" Does that mean I'm going to have to let "Smoocher" out from under my floorboards "?" | |||
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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new!" I agree fully with this, would definitely say there's a handful or so that I would describe as being in a clique | |||
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"There was a thread today started by a newbie, their first post ever in the forums, and I sat and watched for a while as the poor person was linched!! It wasn't pleasant to watch at all!! And all to often this happens, someone will start a post that maybe sounds silly or not very intellectual and it's like feeding time in the lions den! My guess is that person won't be posting again in the forums, which is a great shame as we were all new once! And yes I would say there is a clique from time to time, as there is in any forum boards " Seen lots of newbies post and get lynched just because they have asked something that's already been asked. I can see harm in answering their questions in a helpful manner, direct them nicely to search forums feature, which they may not know exists. Writing comments like pull up chair and pass pop corn, is hardly welcoming or helpful | |||
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"following on from above, yes people have had timeouts, yes people follow others, and as other people have pointed out we were all newcomers once, I wasn't joining in with that post today because I knew it was getting contentious and the contraversials ones I keep away from - in every level of society you will get people of likemindness sticking together - newcomers are welcome otherwise there wouldnt be the likes of me in here and a few other new posters So you see you are well aware when its happening, who is doing it and who is the victim. The only question I have to ask is why you went to lengths to try and put forward the opposite. Having been on here a number of years - it seems to me that the people who shout 'clique' the loudest fall into two camps. Those that by their own unwillingness to join in in a constructive and positive manner make themselves appear unpopular - and those that feel the due to the length of time they've apparently 'been on the scene' feel they have some kind of god given gift to 'educate' others as to. 'How things are'. The forums are an opportunity for all. Introduce yourselves, ask questions, talk bollocks, and yes, on occasion give and take the piss in a friendly, lighthearted way. It seems to me that over the last couple of years things have been a lot more welcoming to nod and all . But as is always the case with the forums - if things irritate you - as the guidance notes say - maybe it's best to take a step back and not post." In your generalisation you have forgotten that there is quite a few like me who have also been here a few years. I certainly wouldn't count myself in either group as I have no desire to join in some of the uninteresting nonsensical crap that they have to post several times per day nor the hijacking of another thread as they do, nor do I go around thinking I am gods gift because I have been here a few years; that would make me arrogant, something I most certainly am not! There is a huge difference in joining in in a constructive and positive manner to having a laugh about another member by lynching, as another poster said, or hijacking their thread because they can and will, hiding behind their keyboard bored shitless with nothing to do. | |||
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"And I will also add that most of the time the forums are a fun place! We have made some friends on them, some that we have met at a social and quite a few that we havent! At the end of the day you get out of this site what you put in! " With this comment, it is almost like you are back tracking on what you have said above | |||
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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new!" Why on earth would you want to 'belong' to any percieved inner circle? There are members on here who will only reply to each others posts and end up derailing threads and openly flirting. But they aren't always the same members, so to say there is a 'clique' is probably incorrect. As others have said, its more than one and I am sure people do feel pressured to belong. Just be yourselves and join in or don't join in as you wish. There's no rule that says you have to agree slavishly with anyone on here to get approval. You'll notice your posts igmored and any good points you make passed over for a flirt fest but you have to get used to that. | |||
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" Why on earth would you want to 'belong' to any percieved inner circle? Just be yourselves and join in or don't join in as you wish." This.... | |||
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" Why on earth would you want to 'belong' to any percieved inner circle? Just be yourselves and join in or don't join in as you wish. This.... " Yes this | |||
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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new! Not as a whole however there are groups who flock together and self praise the same as happens in a pub or a club. There are other elements that feel threatened by newcomers so are a little aggressive in the hope they give it up. There are others who see one person as being weaker or less competent and take great delight in feeding off their flesh. It happens on many a site and not specific to here. " I agree with you Raymondo. There are some on here that talk utter bollocks all the time, those that are sycophants that group together, those that come on for fun and are genuinely funny, those that use it as keyboard warriors. I never used the forums when I first joined, because I did not like the cliqueyness of some. My OH was a regular contributer and said to give it a try. I now post as I feel fit and what I feel like posting... and bollocks to what others think, join in or dont, makes no difference to me. I dont know what thread it was where the clique circled and attacked the newbie, but I find that sad. I am sure these people would not do that in real life. Bullying is abhorrent and I hope the MODs took action. I know I have had private conversations and PMs with people on here for a few months now, all of us agreeing that the forums are not what they were and are being spoiled by a few. But the only way to change that is to participate, and not abandon it all together. But as Voltaire once said "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" | |||
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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new!" we would love to be in your gang xxx | |||
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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new!" | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. " Ok, I fess up, I'm in a clique, but it's so cliquey that it's a clique of one and no, you can't fucking join. It's mine! All mine!! | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. " The problem is though, that membership and operation of the perceived clique is just that - subjective perception by an individual. Others will refute it, some will disagree with the membership list. | |||
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"Others will refute it, some will disagree with the membership list. " If ya name's not on the list ya ain't coming in. Got it? | |||
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"Others will refute it, some will disagree with the membership list. If ya name's not on the list ya ain't coming in. Got it? " I 'got it' a loooong time ago! | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. " In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way. | |||
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"Others will refute it, some will disagree with the membership list. If ya name's not on the list ya ain't coming in. Got it? I 'got it' a loooong time ago! " ok, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, wanna buy some photos of my wife? | |||
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"Others will refute it, some will disagree with the membership list. If ya name's not on the list ya ain't coming in. Got it? I 'got it' a loooong time ago! ok, nudge, nudge, wink, wink, wanna buy some photos of my wife? " Cant I just see then for free on here? Or are these the special interest ones? | |||
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"Is there a clique – well no, I don’t think there is, not in dictionary definition terms anyway (as some of you have pointed out), but there groups of prolific posters who, shall we say, share the love between each other. The evidence is there as to why people would think it – take the ‘Fab Forum awards’ where the winner is the man/woman/rubber farm animal with 3 whole votes – given the number of people posting/reading on the forums, the fact someone won the award for ‘Best Worn like a Hat’ with three whole votes does mean that either the majority are not interested or simply don’t vote - as its perceived as an ‘inner circle love-in’. There have been widely mentioned parties, planned out in the forums but bereft of attendees save for what I think quite a few people perceive as ‘the popular few’. The whole ‘Colin’ in-joke was all over forums, but only a handful of people were actually in on the joke. The above are not criticisms – they are some acute observations as to why some people *may* think there is a clique. Far more people read than post. I think people see a topic thread, watch people posting good, well thought out responses just to be ignored because three or four people are having a sideways chat and a couple of others are hanging on the coat-tails. Then there are others who post to be provocative, illicit a strong reaction or just general want to see the forums burn with a war of words. When the slanging starts, it scares many people off so they don’t feel they dare post. I stopped being bothered by what people I’ve never met (nor am likely to meet) think of who I am based on my posts in a public forum on a swinging site. As long as I don’t break the rules and I feel that what post is fair and considered (from my point of _iew) I really don’t care what other people think. I have no agenda for getting in anyone’s panties, or do I expect to be on anyone’s award list or private party invites. People can choose to read, respond, ignore, criticise how they see fit. Just get stuck in and post, the rest will take care of itself. " You couldn't be more spot on if you had smashed a Phd in Spottonishness at a top Uni! | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. " I have been here now over 4 / 5 years and when i first come i feel it was hard to chat with out others getting together backing each other up ... That come from people being friends and meeting them at clubs thay have a strong bond and you see it here and come across as a click ... Myself i have my own mind and will say things how i see them no matter what others say ... as i have to be true to myself ... things here are alot better now and other sites i have been on are really bad so always felt ok here as we know the mods on other sites you don't alot of the time and no one to be there if you need help. | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way." Oh yes, so you do. Good post Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved. I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that. | |||
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"I am one of those who will openly flirt with people I fancy even during a completely unrelated subject being discussed. It's no different to real life when, in a group of people, some will flirt in the hope it may lead somewhere else later. This is a site primarily devoted to people who have above average sex drives and want to find others with which to share that, but it's not just about sex, there needs to be that spark (for some) and a bit of banter between people who have seen each other's photos and want to get to know the person behind them goes a long way to satisfying the cravings for sex we all had that drove us to join a site like this in the first place. Obviously, the longer someone has been a member here the more 'friends' they are likely to have made, the more banter they are likely to engage in and they are more likely to be seen by newbies as established members of a clique. But here's the thing about cliques: They don't exist to people who are considered by others to be in them. Only people who feel on the outside looking in feel that there are cliques. Over time they become known and they automatically become part of the fabric of the site, and lo, a newbie joins and sees them as part of a clique. All it takes on here to succeed is time and typing." | |||
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"Who or what is Colin?! X " You reeealy want to know? | |||
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"Who or what is Colin?! X " A plastic chicken who toured the cocks and breasts of the country | |||
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" I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. and get banned for naming and shaming? 24 hours is hardly going to kill someone if they feel that strongly about it " Ok go on then fire away, who are they? | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way. Oh yes, so you do. Good post Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved. I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that. 'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?" In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine. | |||
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" I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that. 'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then? In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine. Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users" I state in my post 'users' and 'lurkers' as I differentiate between them as who knows how many lurk?! | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way. Oh yes, so you do. Good post Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved. I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that. 'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then? In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine. Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users" Because the points raised were regarding people not wanting to join in because they were put off/wary. My example of the 'Colin' scenario was showing how it actually encouraged others who hadn't posted before to join in. | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way. Oh yes, so you do. Good post Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved. I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that. 'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then?" I'd say so. Forum newbies: new to the forums Forum lurkers: those who read the forums but rarely post Forum regulars: speaks for itself. Class: any distinction between different things; classification; type | |||
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"Well I'm a relative newbie too and I don't think that at all! I class it as some have known each other a long time, and understand and get each others sense of humour. Yes there are some who are very nasty and I've been gobsmacked at some of the comments. But that's just their negativity! I myself love the fact that there is serious Informative posts and also some that have had me spitting out my coffee with laughter. The Diversity of the Formums is what, for me made them very addictive " | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. In my loooong rambling post, I do throw out a few ideas as to why some people may think there is a perceived clique in operation, by the way. Oh yes, so you do. Good post Not sure I agree that Colin was an 'in joke' though. I started that off as a take off of all the rate my cock threads at the time, and it went bloody mental lol. It certainly wasn't just a select few involved. I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that. 'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then? In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine. Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users" Lurkers - those who mostly read the forums, seldom post (can sometimes be found dipping their toe on "Lurker and Newbie" shout out threads)...can't bring any to mind as don't see names often enough to remember Newbies - we were all there once, out of interest I checked back t'other day to find my first post(s) and they seemed to be Nov of 2011 so I didn't lurk for long before diving in...current example of newbie is Sirjohnnie, maybe in a couple of months he'll be a regular (not sure how long the probation period is ) Regular - fixture and fitting of the forum for as long as they're around (such as myself), possibly perceived as part of the clique, may have a picture stashed somewhere with a plastic chicken (or wooden duck seeing as Colin couldn't be found in Cumbria) It's not terms that are meant to be divisive or demeaning (that's not the word I'm groping for but I can't think of another one) as I read your post to imply, classifications don't necessarily have to do that...for example the group "jockeys" can be subdivided into profeshnuls , amateurs, national hunt, hackers and flat racers To the OP - is there a clique? I don't think so, but if anyone wants to PM me as a clique member along with other members then that's not a problem - there are some posters whose style of writing appeals to me (nowt to do with sexy pics, honest) and I'll almost always contribute to posts they start and there are others who don't appeal as much or at all and I seldom contribute to those threads unless it's a serious subject I feel I need to state my opinion on (doesn't happen often, I struggle to take things too seriously). I also abhor bullying and will take issue on threads where I perceive there to be an issue - this doesn't mean I think those doing the bullying are part of some clique Anyhow, that's far too fecking serious for 10 am...I'm off to the bookies to put a tenner each way on "Tesco's Finest" in the 3.40 at Cheltenham | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. Ok, I fess up, I'm in a clique, but it's so cliquey that it's a clique of one and no, you can't fucking join. It's mine! All mine!! " Can I be on your clique? We're the only ones who make sense on here! | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. Ok, I fess up, I'm in a clique, but it's so cliquey that it's a clique of one and no, you can't fucking join. It's mine! All mine!! Can I be on your clique? We're the only ones who make sense on here! " No, fuck off. | |||
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"You know what happens if you mention clique 3 times you all get bumped back to Kansas ! " Or bettleguise appears I'm Not sure which I'm Too much of a Colin too try ! | |||
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" I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that. 'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then? In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine. Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users I state in my post 'users' and 'lurkers' as I differentiate between them as who knows how many lurk?! " I just 'lurked' all the way to the last post, and I was a 'newbie' in the forums once upon a time (and I hasten to add, made to feel extremely welcome) | |||
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"Betelgeuse is the star in the upper left corner of the constellation of Orion, and it's due to go supernova sometime soon, maybe even as soon as next year, around tea time. We'll see it as a second sun in our sky for a few weeks and it will light up the night sky like our own sun does during the day. Can't wait. I like supernovas. " Oh get you dr Brian cox if it does go into supernova 'things can only get better' | |||
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" I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that. 'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then? In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine. Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users I state in my post 'users' and 'lurkers' as I differentiate between them as who knows how many lurk?! I just 'lurked' all the way to the last post, and I was a 'newbie' in the forums once upon a time (and I hasten to add, made to feel extremely welcome) " I just jumped in with both feet, but I admit I initially felt like the OP. I still feel like it now on occasions as I dont post as often, but there are forms of cliques in all walks of life I guess. Im too gobby and moody at times to be in anyone else's clique, I'm in my own little world and happy here | |||
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" I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that. 'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then? In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine. Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users I state in my post 'users' and 'lurkers' as I differentiate between them as who knows how many lurk?! I just 'lurked' all the way to the last post, and I was a 'newbie' in the forums once upon a time (and I hasten to add, made to feel extremely welcome) I just jumped in with both feet, but I admit I initially felt like the OP. I still feel like it now on occasions as I dont post as often, but there are forms of cliques in all walks of life I guess. Im too gobby and moody at times to be in anyone else's clique, I'm in my own little world and happy here " I like your thinking. IF there is a clique, I couldn't give a monkeys chuff if I'm in it or not. Forum threads, good/bad/flirty/hijacked are what makes the fab-world go around. The mods will deal with what they deem inappropriate posts, as they see fit. People will always have an opinion, its human nature - and sometimes its easier to articulate it via a keyboard (sometimes not ) But its just that, opinions, and we're all entitled to them, agreeable or not | |||
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" I had more interaction with forum newbies and lurkers than ever before as a result of that. 'Forum newbies' 'lurkers' are they a class apart then? In your eyes maybe but certainly not mine. Then why classify them, thought we are all simply forum users I state in my post 'users' and 'lurkers' as I differentiate between them as who knows how many lurk?! I just 'lurked' all the way to the last post, and I was a 'newbie' in the forums once upon a time (and I hasten to add, made to feel extremely welcome) I just jumped in with both feet, but I admit I initially felt like the OP. I still feel like it now on occasions as I dont post as often, but there are forms of cliques in all walks of life I guess. Im too gobby and moody at times to be in anyone else's clique, I'm in my own little world and happy here I like your thinking. IF there is a clique, I couldn't give a monkeys chuff if I'm in it or not. Forum threads, good/bad/flirty/hijacked are what makes the fab-world go around. The mods will deal with what they deem inappropriate posts, as they see fit. People will always have an opinion, its human nature - and sometimes its easier to articulate it via a keyboard (sometimes not ) But its just that, opinions, and we're all entitled to them, agreeable or not " spot on for me x | |||
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"In the social sciences, the word "clique" is used to describe a group of 2 to 12 (averaging 5 or 6) "persons who interact with each other more regularly and intensely than others in the same setting".[1] Interacting with cliques is part of normative social development regardless of gender, ethnicity, or popularity. Although cliques are most commonly studied during adolescence and middle childhood, they exist in all age groups. This was taken from Wikipedia! The definition of clique, So reading this definition, would you still say there isn't a clique? " Clique has negative connotations in my opinion and I think that is why most, including myself, are so vehemently against it as a word. | |||
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"In the social sciences, the word "clique" is used to describe a group of 2 to 12 (averaging 5 or 6) "persons who interact with each other more regularly and intensely than others in the same setting".[1] Interacting with cliques is part of normative social development regardless of gender, ethnicity, or popularity. Although cliques are most commonly studied during adolescence and middle childhood, they exist in all age groups. This was taken from Wikipedia! The definition of clique, So reading this definition, would you still say there isn't a clique? Clique has negative connotations in my opinion and I think that is why most, including myself, are so vehemently against it as a word. " I can see where your coming from, but it doesn't have to be negative, it's just the way it's perceived in the forums! We all have our own individual ways and opinions, which is what makes the forums! | |||
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"In the social sciences, the word "clique" is used to describe a group of 2 to 12 (averaging 5 or 6) "persons who interact with each other more regularly and intensely than others in the same setting".[1] Interacting with cliques is part of normative social development regardless of gender, ethnicity, or popularity. Although cliques are most commonly studied during adolescence and middle childhood, they exist in all age groups. This was taken from Wikipedia! The definition of clique, So reading this definition, would you still say there isn't a clique? Clique has negative connotations in my opinion and I think that is why most, including myself, are so vehemently against it as a word. I can see where your coming from, but it doesn't have to be negative, it's just the way it's perceived in the forums! We all have our own individual ways and opinions, which is what makes the forums! " To me the word clique means no one else is welcome which is certainly not the case here. I agree yesterday it all went a bit Pete Tong with a newbie but quite honestly I think it was inevitable and I was dealt with by HPC quickly. I maintain that there is a group of regulars and the way to join in is to talk. | |||
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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new!" Are you suggesting that no one listens or replies to your opinions? | |||
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"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana? " The latter!! Now leave me alone to my one woman clique | |||
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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new!" OP - you jump in whenever, wherever and as often as you want. All forums, no matter what the subject matter, are the same - try and imagine a playground roundabout: all the time kids are on it, it's going round and round, so if you want to jump on it, you have to get up to speed a little then go for it! Once you're on it, you're up with everyone else. That's what forums, or message boards, are like. The one I used to help invigilate years ago was no different - in fact I would say it was a LOT more off-putting for newcomers than the ones on Fabs would ever be, and was on a subject far removed from this which you would have thought would be 'welcoming'. It was anything but... Anyway, we don't have a 'clique' on here...... "Faberatti" - YES!!!!! But not a clique.... And welcome, by the way | |||
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"it is just a big group of mates joshing and having a laugh.... now depending on how & what you post, what is between your legs, how internet/forum savvy you are, how some react to you and of course, your reaction.... put all of that and some more into a big melting pot, out comes a welcomed forumite, or not !!! it is what it is... " | |||
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"it is just a big group of mates joshing and having a laugh.... now depending on how & what you post, what is between your legs, how internet/forum savvy you are, how some react to you and of course, your reaction.... put all of that and some more into a big melting pot, out comes a welcomed forumite, or not !!! it is what it is... " Ohhhhh View,,,,,,, Now I’ve got that old "Blue Mink" song buzzing about in my head,,,,,,,,,, | |||
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"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana? " OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again? | |||
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"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana? OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again? " no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man | |||
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"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana? OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again? no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man " | |||
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"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana? OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again? no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man " He doesn't miss a trick does he? | |||
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"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana? OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again? no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man He doesn't miss a trick does he?" Was just thinking the same | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. Ok, I fess up, I'm in a clique, but it's so cliquey that it's a clique of one and no, you can't fucking join. It's mine! All mine!! Can I be on your clique? We're the only ones who make sense on here! No, fuck off. " hurt.com | |||
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"I agree regarding the points about OP's being attacked in certain instances. However , I wouldn't say it is necessarily the same group of people doing it. I just wish someone would have the bottle to define what and who this "clique" is so we can put it to bed once and for all. Ok, I fess up, I'm in a clique, but it's so cliquey that it's a clique of one and no, you can't fucking join. It's mine! All mine!! Can I be on your clique? We're the only ones who make sense on here! No, fuck off. hurt.com " Ok, you're in. Who do you wanna talk about? | |||
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"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look. " You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you? | |||
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"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look. You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you? " | |||
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"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look. You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you? " Wad he say??? | |||
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"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana? OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again? no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man He doesn't miss a trick does he? Was just thinking the same " Aw come on, ONE of his posts was sensible and relevant | |||
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"Hi guys! It's been said many a time before - and fingers crossed Fabio (definite non clique member) will come along with his perfect 'pub' analogy. (Only so I don't have to search the forums and cut and paste!) If not - do a quick search using the word. 'Clique' and see what crops up. I used to think there was one - til I joined it - sorry, meant got involved with the forums more and got to know sound regulars and new posters alike. Please, please , please - the myth is only perpetuated by those that use it as a cop out or who don't want to use the forums for the right reasons - asking questions, replying to posts - or just contributing as and when they want to the endless sources of amusement! Come one - come all !! Well I don't cop out or don't want to use the forums and I can see cliques in the forums so that blows your theory out of the water. There is the other side of looking at it that follows the principle the people who are in cliques or groups are the ones who voice the loudest there isn't one. The facts though point towards not one clique but a number of them. surely a clique is a group of people that dont let others in ............. if there are cliques on here only the same members of those cliques would be able to post ............ the forums allow everyone to post and regular posters encourage others to post as well that doesnt signify a clique There are groups who DON'T welcome new posters, there is a thread from earlier today where a newer poster was picked on by multiple regulars. There are people who have been constantly belittled by certain groups. People have had timeouts, threads removed etc and this has gone on for years. You might feel uncomfortable people pointing this out but to try an pretend its all nicey nicey is a very blinkered _iew. There are many who don't get involved and walk their own path but there are many others who have flock mentality and will join in on a bitchfeist on an individual. Obviously I can't name names but ~I think if you have been on here a while its impossible to miss. " | |||
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"I hope there's no too big a clique on here, sure people have/make friends they chat to regularly but for someone like me who is relatively new to this site people seem friendly enough and most are welcoming!" Stick around... you might want to reconsider that _iewpoint in time... | |||
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" There are groups who DON'T welcome new posters" That's some generalisation. It implies that there is an active group of the same users making life here intolerable for newcomers. I'm sure Admin would have stamped all over them if that were the case. It appears that 'slamming the noobie' is subjective, as I clearly remember a guy posting in here about swinging with his mum. He was hounded out by almost everyone who posted on his thread. I'm not defending him as I thought he was disgusting as did everyone else, but by the postings on THIS thread it seems that it's ok to hound a noobie if we all do it but not if only a few do it. That's a tad hypocritical. | |||
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" There are groups who DON'T welcome new posters That's some generalisation. It implies that there is an active group of the same users making life here intolerable for newcomers. I'm sure Admin would have stamped all over them if that were the case. It appears that 'slamming the noobie' is subjective, as I clearly remember a guy posting in here about swinging with his mum. He was hounded out by almost everyone who posted on his thread. I'm not defending him as I thought he was disgusting as did everyone else, but by the postings on THIS thread it seems that it's ok to hound a noobie if we all do it but not if only a few do it. That's a tad hypocritical." Slamming the Noobie! Now, when I read that, I thought of something entirely different! I don't think there's enough bromide in my tea today - I'm getting all sorts of funny thoughts. | |||
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"Monkeys chuff ! Is that a short haired brunette one? Or a little cheeky one that grapples with your banana? OoOoOoOoOo! has this turned into a bum thread about me again? no hijacking allowed, back to your machine building young man He doesn't miss a trick does he? Was just thinking the same Aw come on, ONE of his posts was sensible and relevant " Can a mod delete the post she is referring to. I can't have this! | |||
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"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look. You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you? " You are aware there is a difference between a fleeting visit from time to time and spending all your waking hours on an Internet forum? | |||
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"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look. You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you? You are aware there is a difference between a fleeting visit from time to time and spending all your waking hours on an Internet forum?" I would do, but that would detract from my forum posting time | |||
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"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look. You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you? You are aware there is a difference between a fleeting visit from time to time and spending all your waking hours on an Internet forum? I would do, but that would detract from my forum posting time " Just checking. Now pass me your popcorn | |||
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"Personally I find it quite tragic that certain posters spend nearly all their waking hours on this site. There's a whole world out there for all you little keyboard warriors to explore. Cut out the popcorn and shit stirring and go take a look. You are aware that by posting on the forum in order to decry those who post on it offers up a level of irony which may cause nosebleeds in those who are of an intelligent disposition, do you? You are aware there is a difference between a fleeting visit from time to time and spending all your waking hours on an Internet forum? I would do, but that would detract from my forum posting time Just checking. Now pass me your popcorn " Sweet or Salty | |||
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"Salty popcorn and bukkake within two posts of each other. " click click. | |||
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"Salty popcorn and bukkake within two posts of each other. click click. " You leave that Bukkake-Salted Popcorn for 24 hours near a warm radiator, you can probably add Toffee to the list of available flavours too | |||
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"Salty popcorn and bukkake within two posts of each other. click click. You leave that Bukkake-Salted Popcorn for 24 hours near a warm radiator, you can probably add Toffee to the list of available flavours too" mmmmmm sweet and sour | |||
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"Hurry up. I want the last word" tuff lol | |||
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"Points we make are - in our opinion - fairly well-balanced. We try to join the debate. Yet we do feel largely like we are outside the inner circle. Weird, we're hardly new! Why on earth would you want to 'belong' to any percieved inner circle? There are members on here who will only reply to each others posts and end up derailing threads and openly flirting. But they aren't always the same members, so to say there is a 'clique' is probably incorrect. As others have said, its more than one and I am sure people do feel pressured to belong. Just be yourselves and join in or don't join in as you wish. There's no rule that says you have to agree slavishly with anyone on here to get approval. You'll notice your posts igmored and any good points you make passed over for a flirt fest but you have to get used to that." Excellent point | |||
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"Hurry up. I want the last word" WORD | |||
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