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I'm part organising a Coronation party in a local care home, really looking forward to it.
I'm not an avid royalist but a friend of mine told me that no-one had organised a party for these old folk and we thought we should step in. |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I loved the queen but I’m not really that bothered anymore. If there’s a party I’ll go. Any excuse  . I’m going to a coronation picnic at school though. "
Only because you heard they had cake   |
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I’ve always been a monarchist but I’m seeing things differently these days. Somehow they don’t feel…. relevant anymore.
I know people say they bring lots of tourism, but those people would still visit Windsor castle, Buck House etc.
I know people say they’re great ambassadors for the UK. But are they? Really?
And in this age of diversity and global society, who says one family should rule them all?
I was going sit and watch the coronalisationalism but my friend has asked me to go out for the day with his kids. That actually sounds like a fun day out so I’m happy to do that instead.
I’ll watch the highlights from when Insulate Britain throw icing sugar all over the state carriage. |
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"I loved the queen but I’m not really that bothered anymore. If there’s a party I’ll go. Any excuse . I’m going to a coronation picnic at school though.
Only because you heard they had cake "
Haha. I don’t like cake! |
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"Queen Diana? I hate to break the news but……"
Princess Diana might be dead for a while now, but memory of her still runs deep both within the UK and internationally. Many still blame Charles for his infidelity with Camilla that resulted in his divorce from Diana, and by extension the Royal Family's "othering" of Diana within the family because she didn't fit into their image of what the wife of a future king or even current prince should be like.
When Elizabeth II died last year, one of the first things my mum said was "oh my god, now that ghastly woman Camilla is going to become Queen." Bear in mind my family isn't royalist in the slightest, and we're not even from the UK (though we used to be a British colony), but my mum was one of the tail-end Boomers (born in 1958), and her adult years' impression of the British Royal Family was of the Queen and Princess Diana first and foremost. I wouldn't find it surprising one bit that the late Diana's appeal across the generations remains just as strong in death as it was in life, and that many in the UK and internationally still hold her to be the true successor Queen Consort, not Camilla (for all the whitewashing that has been done). |
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Going to be difficult to avoid it.
I'm looking for something else which is novel or imaginative to do on the day.
I remember that when there was a day off for Charles and Diana's wedding, a group of my anti-royalist colleagues deliberately went to France for the day! |
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"I am looking forward to the party in my village because of the way it’s going to bring the community together.
But my feelings toward the monarchy have shifted somewhat since the Queen died. "
I was fairly cynical about QE 2 I'm even more so about CR3. |
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"I am looking forward to the party in my village because of the way it’s going to bring the community together.
But my feelings toward the monarchy have shifted somewhat since the Queen died.
I was fairly cynical about QE 2 I'm even more so about CR3. "
What other postcodes are you cynical about? |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I loved the queen but I’m not really that bothered anymore. If there’s a party I’ll go. Any excuse . I’m going to a coronation picnic at school though.
Only because you heard they had cake
Haha. I don’t like cake!"
Free food why not saves cooking remember to take a goody bag |
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"I am looking forward to the party in my village because of the way it’s going to bring the community together.
But my feelings toward the monarchy have shifted somewhat since the Queen died.
I was fairly cynical about QE 2 I'm even more so about CR3.
What other postcodes are you cynical about? "
All of them. Cut me in half and I have cynic written in me like a stick of rock |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It wont be the event his mother had
Even in death she still upstages him"
Because the Age of Deference is over.
The only practical political reason why there's still a British royal family and sovereign is because he or she is the head of the British government, a role that is only hereditary in nature. Imagine changing King Charles III for President Rishi Sunak or Keir Starmer (or god forbid, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn in past years). Anti-monarchists in the UK really should be careful what they wish for. |
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I’m on the side that thinks it should have ended with HRH QEII, I have not seen the point in a monarch for a while, just my opinion, not looking for an argument.
As for celebrating, won’t be doing any of that either, the whole thing has made work very busy and a bloody nightmare, any time off I would of had on the 6th is now going to be full of traffic and closed shops. |
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I was fairly cynical about QE 2 I'm even more so about CR3.
What other postcodes are you cynical about?
KC3 perhaps, wherever that is?"
By rights should be the 'Royal' borough of Kensington and Chelsea! |
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"I loved the queen but I’m not really that bothered anymore. If there’s a party I’ll go. Any excuse . I’m going to a coronation picnic at school though.
Only because you heard they had cake
Haha. I don’t like cake!
Free food why not saves cooking remember to take a goody bag "
Oh there’s no free food! We have to take our own |
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"Queen Diana? I hate to break the news but……
Princess Diana might be dead for a while now, but memory of her still runs deep both within the UK and internationally. Many still blame Charles for his infidelity with Camilla that resulted in his divorce from Diana, and by extension the Royal Family's "othering" of Diana within the family because she didn't fit into their image of what the wife of a future king or even current prince should be like.
When Elizabeth II died last year, one of the first things my mum said was "oh my god, now that ghastly woman Camilla is going to become Queen." Bear in mind my family isn't royalist in the slightest, and we're not even from the UK (though we used to be a British colony), but my mum was one of the tail-end Boomers (born in 1958), and her adult years' impression of the British Royal Family was of the Queen and Princess Diana first and foremost. I wouldn't find it surprising one bit that the late Diana's appeal across the generations remains just as strong in death as it was in life, and that many in the UK and internationally still hold her to be the true successor Queen Consort, not Camilla (for all the whitewashing that has been done). "
An interesting and insightful submission.
Would be fun if the route became lined with spectators bearing placards bearing Diana's image but I imagine the authorities will have thought ahead on that possibility. Or they will after reading my post! |
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"Imagine changing King Charles III for President Rishi Sunak or Keir Starmer (or god forbid, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn in past years). Anti-monarchists in the UK really should be careful what they wish for. "
Well, should a series of disasters occur, we could end up with King Harry. Just think about that! |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
Newcastle |
"I loved the queen but I’m not really that bothered anymore. If there’s a party I’ll go. Any excuse . I’m going to a coronation picnic at school though.
Only because you heard they had cake
Haha. I don’t like cake!
Free food why not saves cooking remember to take a goody bag
Oh there’s no free food! We have to take our own "
Have a pure melt down as you're about to enter the main entrance hopefully some kind soul gives you some of theirs to take with you |
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"Imagine changing King Charles III for President Rishi Sunak or Keir Starmer (or god forbid, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn in past years). Anti-monarchists in the UK really should be careful what they wish for.
Well, should a series of disasters occur, we could end up with King Harry. Just think about that!"
I'd be happy with that hes a top bloke  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Imagine changing King Charles III for President Rishi Sunak or Keir Starmer (or god forbid, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn in past years). Anti-monarchists in the UK really should be careful what they wish for.
Well, should a series of disasters occur, we could end up with King Harry. Just think about that!"
A king who's actually fought in a war? Last time that happened was when Richard III was at Bosworth! |
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By *rder66Man
over a year ago
Tatooine |
"Imagine changing King Charles III for President Rishi Sunak or Keir Starmer (or god forbid, Boris Johnson or Jeremy Corbyn in past years). Anti-monarchists in the UK really should be careful what they wish for.
Well, should a series of disasters occur, we could end up with King Harry. Just think about that!
I'd be happy with that hes a top bloke "
What makes you think I want any of them?
A president can be voted in and out, not a monarch.
I don't care for the royals or politics, all man made to create control and a fake sense of nation. |
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I could not care less. And I don’t know anyone who does. Regional thing? Class thing? Religious thing? Me….some over privileged family having millions of tax payers money wasted while greatest hits radio has an appeal to feed uk kids from working families…. Twisted morals |
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By *adCherriesCouple
over a year ago
Cheshire/Northwest |
"I could not care less. And I don’t know anyone who does. Regional thing? Class thing? Religious thing? Me….some over privileged family having millions of tax payers money wasted while greatest hits radio has an appeal to feed uk kids from working families…. Twisted morals "
Yes because places without a monarchy don't have starving children 
Yes I'm looking forward to it |
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"I could not care less. And I don’t know anyone who does. Regional thing? Class thing? Religious thing? Me….some over privileged family having millions of tax payers money wasted while greatest hits radio has an appeal to feed uk kids from working families…. Twisted morals
Yes because places without a monarchy don't have starving children
Yes I'm looking forward to it "
Do those places spend millions of tax payers money on very rich people having a party while their kids starve though? |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
West Wales and Cardiff |
"I’m a Republican, so will be working and walking in the hills.
Yma o Hyd
To escape all the hype mate you are going to have to go on a long walk. "
Ha!
I’ll do it somehow. I managed to miss virtually all the coverage etc following the Queen’s passing. |
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"I’m a Republican, so will be working and walking in the hills.
Yma o Hyd
To escape all the hype mate you are going to have to go on a long walk. "
Not really, most people aren’t bothered according to most polls |
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Well I shall be watching it all and buying all the news papers. It will be history to pass on to my grandchildren. My oldest grandchild might remember it but my youngest won't have a clue. I will have fun discussing it in later years about it |
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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago
Northampton Somewhere |
It's fallen on my weekend off which suits me, although I'll just watch the highlights. We've been invited to a street party from 10 onwards, £15 a head ~ no thanks, don't like my neighbours too much!
I'll just take my dog out....all day |
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I really don’t get it. Please tell me why lots of money on watching people you don’t know, who don’t care about you, as they go through a pointless ceremony with head of a church which means nothing to vast majority, with no say in how country is run, is in any way worth the money or time ???? |
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"I really don’t get it. Please tell me why lots of money on watching people you don’t know, who don’t care about you, as they go through a pointless ceremony with head of a church which means nothing to vast majority, with no say in how country is run, is in any way worth the money or time ????"
Probably for the same reason that they will watch football being played by people they don't know and who don't care about them either. You left out 'rich' by the way. I was itching to include that as well! |
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"I really don’t get it. Please tell me why lots of money on watching people you don’t know, who don’t care about you, as they go through a pointless ceremony with head of a church which means nothing to vast majority, with no say in how country is run, is in any way worth the money or time ????
Probably for the same reason that they will watch football being played by people they don't know and who don't care about them either. You left out 'rich' by the way. I was itching to include that as well!"
Are you equating watching football that people enjoy like going to theatre, cinema, but choose to pay, with using tax payers money which you have no choice over? Really ?? |
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"I am looking forward to the party in my village because of the way it’s going to bring the community together.
But my feelings toward the monarchy have shifted somewhat since the Queen died.
I was fairly cynical about QE 2 I'm even more so about CR3. "
Any thoughts on CR7? |
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"I am looking forward to the party in my village because of the way it’s going to bring the community together.
But my feelings toward the monarchy have shifted somewhat since the Queen died.
I was fairly cynical about QE 2 I'm even more so about CR3.
Any thoughts on CR7?"
Nowhere near as good as Messi |
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"I really don’t get it. Please tell me why lots of money on watching people you don’t know, who don’t care about you, as they go through a pointless ceremony with head of a church which means nothing to vast majority, with no say in how country is run, is in any way worth the money or time ????
Probably for the same reason that they will watch football being played by people they don't know and who don't care about them either. You left out 'rich' by the way. I was itching to include that as well!
Are you equating watching football that people enjoy like going to theatre, cinema, but choose to pay, with using tax payers money which you have no choice over? Really ??"
I was thinking more about not wasting my money and time on watching the coronation. Certainly not worth it! |
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Were having an afternoon tea dance with our group. A good excuse for and additional dance and social not to mention cake and the union jack waist coat and bow tie and cufflinks well I got them for the jubilee so dont suppose I will get too many more chances to wear then. |
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"I am looking forward to the party in my village because of the way it’s going to bring the community together.
But my feelings toward the monarchy have shifted somewhat since the Queen died.
I was fairly cynical about QE 2 I'm even more so about CR3.
Any thoughts on CR7?"
Plenty  |
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"I'm part organising a Coronation party in a local care home, really looking forward to it.
I'm not an avid royalist but a friend of mine told me that no-one had organised a party for these old folk and we thought we should step in."
Jane that is really thoughtful of you what a lovely thing to do. I spent a while in a care home and it is amazing how much they get from things like this, and we all have to remember when we are old and all the sex and fun has gone we will be thankful for a kind sole like yourself. Good on you |
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By *adCherriesCouple
over a year ago
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"I could not care less. And I don’t know anyone who does. Regional thing? Class thing? Religious thing? Me….some over privileged family having millions of tax payers money wasted while greatest hits radio has an appeal to feed uk kids from working families…. Twisted morals
Yes because places without a monarchy don't have starving children
Yes I'm looking forward to it
Do those places spend millions of tax payers money on very rich people having a party while their kids starve though? "
Because presidents are free and don't have parties? |
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"I could not care less. And I don’t know anyone who does. Regional thing? Class thing? Religious thing? Me….some over privileged family having millions of tax payers money wasted while greatest hits radio has an appeal to feed uk kids from working families…. Twisted morals
Yes because places without a monarchy don't have starving children
Yes I'm looking forward to it
Do those places spend millions of tax payers money on very rich people having a party while their kids starve though?
Because presidents are free and don't have parties? "
presidents paid to carry out a job. Like a PM. Uk pays Both. One isn’t necessary |
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By *adCherriesCouple
over a year ago
Cheshire/Northwest |
"I could not care less. And I don’t know anyone who does. Regional thing? Class thing? Religious thing? Me….some over privileged family having millions of tax payers money wasted while greatest hits radio has an appeal to feed uk kids from working families…. Twisted morals
Yes because places without a monarchy don't have starving children
Yes I'm looking forward to it
Do those places spend millions of tax payers money on very rich people having a party while their kids starve though?
Because presidents are free and don't have parties?
presidents paid to carry out a job. Like a PM. Uk pays Both. One isn’t necessary "
It's reported that its going to cost £100 million but bring back £1billion, so why are you bothered? |
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"I could not care less. And I don’t know anyone who does. Regional thing? Class thing? Religious thing? Me….some over privileged family having millions of tax payers money wasted while greatest hits radio has an appeal to feed uk kids from working families…. Twisted morals
Yes because places without a monarchy don't have starving children
Yes I'm looking forward to it
Do those places spend millions of tax payers money on very rich people having a party while their kids starve though?
Because presidents are free and don't have parties?
presidents paid to carry out a job. Like a PM. Uk pays Both. One isn’t necessary
It's reported that its going to cost £100 million but bring back £1billion, so why are you bothered?"
How will it? It’s reported they bring in tourists. Also untrue. And short term? Brexit is good too?? Lol |
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By *opinovMan
over a year ago
Point Nemo, Cumbria |
It's just a huge anachronistic waste of money when we can ill afford it, and there's no actual costed evidence to demonstrate the royalty bring in more than they cost us.
If folks are so keen to pay to support a monarchy then let them do so by voluntary donation. Personally, I'd rather pay our nurses. |
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"I’ve always been a monarchist but I’m seeing things differently these days. Somehow they don’t feel…. relevant anymore.
I know people say they bring lots of tourism, but those people would still visit Windsor castle, Buck House etc.
I know people say they’re great ambassadors for the UK. But are they? Really?
And in this age of diversity and global society, who says one family should rule them all?
I was going sit and watch the coronalisationalism but my friend has asked me to go out for the day with his kids. That actually sounds like a fun day out so I’m happy to do that instead.
I’ll watch the highlights from when Insulate Britain throw icing sugar all over the state carriage."
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I'm looking forward to it.
The Royal family are pretty much the only thing that England has these days in terms of identity.
We are not allowed to be patriotic anymore, even though the Welsh and Scottish are allowed to be fiercely independent and patriotic.
As a country we seem to have been trying to be so American in stead of European that are we now the 51st state?
This is an ancient and historic country with a very rich not always pleasant history and just dismissing the royal family as being unimportant and unnecessary is ignoring a few thousand years of history.
I like having a King or Queen I love all the pomp and ceremony it's just who we are, without them we are just well I'm not sure as the government is fucking embarrassing and doesn't give a shit.
Long live the King. |
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"It's just a huge anachronistic waste of money when we can ill afford it, and there's no actual costed evidence to demonstrate the royalty bring in more than they cost us.
If folks are so keen to pay to support a monarchy then let them do so by voluntary donation. Personally, I'd rather pay our nurses."
Bet you won't be complaining about the extra Bank Holiday tho?
Anyone who hates the royals but is more than happy to take a paid Bank holiday why not give up your day helping out at a local charity. |
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"I'm looking forward to it.
The Royal family are pretty much the only thing that England has these days in terms of identity.
We are not allowed to be patriotic anymore, even though the Welsh and Scottish are allowed to be fiercely independent and patriotic.
As a country we seem to have been trying to be so American in stead of European that are we now the 51st state?
This is an ancient and historic country with a very rich not always pleasant history and just dismissing the royal family as being unimportant and unnecessary is ignoring a few thousand years of history.
I like having a King or Queen I love all the pomp and ceremony it's just who we are, without them we are just well I'm not sure as the government is fucking embarrassing and doesn't give a shit.
Long live the King."
Who says you’re not allowed to be patriotic? |
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"I'm looking forward to it.
The Royal family are pretty much the only thing that England has these days in terms of identity.
We are not allowed to be patriotic anymore, even though the Welsh and Scottish are allowed to be fiercely independent and patriotic.
As a country we seem to have been trying to be so American in stead of European that are we now the 51st state?
This is an ancient and historic country with a very rich not always pleasant history and just dismissing the royal family as being unimportant and unnecessary is ignoring a few thousand years of history.
I like having a King or Queen I love all the pomp and ceremony it's just who we are, without them we are just well I'm not sure as the government is fucking embarrassing and doesn't give a shit.
Long live the King.
Who says you’re not allowed to be patriotic? "
Unfortunately being a patriotic Englishman was hijacks by football hooligans and the far right it's hard to be the former without being perceived as the latter today. |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
West Wales and Cardiff |
"We are not allowed to be patriotic anymore, even though the Welsh and Scottish are allowed to be fiercely independent and patriotic "
These days, you get arrested and thrown in jail just for being English .
I’d say how grateful I am that we are “allowed” to be “fiercely independent and patriotic” (though I don’t feel I’m either, myself). However, the amount of vile and ill-formed comments this week about a Welsh organisation wanting to call a Welsh landscape by its original Welsh name, I think you’ll find it’s actually pretty f****** hard work being “fiercely independent” |
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"We are not allowed to be patriotic anymore, even though the Welsh and Scottish are allowed to be fiercely independent and patriotic
These days, you get arrested and thrown in jail just for being English .
I’d say how grateful I am that we are “allowed” to be “fiercely independent and patriotic” (though I don’t feel I’m either, myself). However, the amount of vile and ill-formed comments this week about a Welsh organisation wanting to call a Welsh landscape by its original Welsh name, I think you’ll find it’s actually pretty f****** hard work being “fiercely independent” "
Stewart Lee??? Yes!! Lol |
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"It's just a huge anachronistic waste of money when we can ill afford it, and there's no actual costed evidence to demonstrate the royalty bring in more than they cost us.
If folks are so keen to pay to support a monarchy then let them do so by voluntary donation. Personally, I'd rather pay our nurses.
Bet you won't be complaining about the extra Bank Holiday tho?
Anyone who hates the royals but is more than happy to take a paid Bank holiday why not give up your day helping out at a local charity."
How about Charlie and his 1.8 BILLION personal wealth helping out a charity by paying for the whole pointless show? |
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"I'm looking forward to it.
The Royal family are pretty much the only thing that England has these days in terms of identity.
We are not allowed to be patriotic anymore, even though the Welsh and Scottish are allowed to be fiercely independent and patriotic.
As a country we seem to have been trying to be so American in stead of European that are we now the 51st state?
This is an ancient and historic country with a very rich not always pleasant history and just dismissing the royal family as being unimportant and unnecessary is ignoring a few thousand years of history.
I like having a King or Queen I love all the pomp and ceremony it's just who we are, without them we are just well I'm not sure as the government is fucking embarrassing and doesn't give a shit.
Long live the King."
Not embarrassing to think people are better then you and deserve wealth by luck of birth? Or having a prince who paid off trafficked girl? ? |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
West Wales and Cardiff |
"We are not allowed to be patriotic anymore, even though the Welsh and Scottish are allowed to be fiercely independent and patriotic
These days, you get arrested and thrown in jail just for being English .
I’d say how grateful I am that we are “allowed” to be “fiercely independent and patriotic” (though I don’t feel I’m either, myself). However, the amount of vile and ill-formed comments this week about a Welsh organisation wanting to call a Welsh landscape by its original Welsh name, I think you’ll find it’s actually pretty f****** hard work being “fiercely independent”
Stewart Lee??? Yes!! Lol "
Indeed mate - these days you get arrested and thrown in prison, just for being English |
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"Agreed. Pensioners can barely heat their homes and this abomination costs millions. I shall not be partaking"
But we still will not b able to heat our homes? Weather or not the money is spent on coronation? Like many of my friends this pensioner and no doubt lots of others will b looking forward to watching it x |
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My opinion is that we have come to a point in history where for various reasons the monarchy is unpopular. This isn't the first time and probably not the last. I think a lot more people feel able to speak against the institution and individuals within it now than ever before and Charles has hardly been a model of princely virtue. Can the Buckingham palace propoganda machine pull it round? Probably, they've done a pretty good job with the queen consort, Prince William and Prince Harry and Meghan.
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By *opinovMan
over a year ago
Point Nemo, Cumbria |
"It's just a huge anachronistic waste of money when we can ill afford it, and there's no actual costed evidence to demonstrate the royalty bring in more than they cost us.
If folks are so keen to pay to support a monarchy then let them do so by voluntary donation. Personally, I'd rather pay our nurses.
Bet you won't be complaining about the extra Bank Holiday tho?
Anyone who hates the royals but is more than happy to take a paid Bank holiday why not give up your day helping out at a local charity."
Wow... the presumption here. Yeah, I'll be working that whole day, and I don't mind at all. The only bank holidays I'll take off will be one in May and another in August - aside from that, I can take as much paid holiday as I like whenever I please.
Also, just because people increasingly recognise the monarchy for the publicly funded hegemony of privilege it is, doesn't mean they 'hate'. The label of hate is what you've ascribed to something closer to 'disaproval' and a perfectly reasonable unwillingness to be forced to pay into it when there are far more deserving needs. I might disapprove of the kind of low-brow jingoists who perpetuate it, but that doesn't mean I hate them.
If people who are in favour of a monarchy want to retain it then good luck to them. Perhaps, instead of scrounging off the rest of us who can see better uses for our hard earned taxes, they shouldn't mind paying for it themselves by voluntary donation if they want it so much. After all, if the monarchy is so popular then enough of them will and the monarchy can carry on no problem, and allow the rest of us to be more secure in the knowledge that we're better funding public services. |
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"Ive only just found out we get the Monday off too, So Im happy. Might go to a beach if everyone is busy having street parties. "
Could be the saving of Eureka if the weather is good. Stuart very generously threw an open house party for the Queen's funeral. A magnanimous act which I haven't forgotten.
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"I'm ignoring it zero respect for the obvious reason
What obvious reason? That you're a republican?
Or maybe just a democrat... as in democracy? "
Sure. I was genuinely curious. I don't have an especially strong view. We do we live in a democracy already (even if it's slightly flawed); the monarchy has no real role in government, beyond ceremony. If we removed it (and there are strong arguments that it's an outdated institution), we'd become a republic! |
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By *opinovMan
over a year ago
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"Nope i think the queen was the last royal for me, Charlie boy doesn't cut it  "
We should've taken the opportunity to abolish the monarchy when she died - it's well overdue time to break the cycle. Hopefully, that'll happen when Charles dies. |
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"I'm ignoring it zero respect for the obvious reason
What obvious reason? That you're a republican?
Or maybe just a democrat... as in democracy?
Sure. I was genuinely curious. I don't have an especially strong view. We do we live in a democracy already (even if it's slightly flawed); the monarchy has no real role in government, beyond ceremony. If we removed it (and there are strong arguments that it's an outdated institution), we'd become a republic!"
There are some convincing studies that indicate the UK is now an oligarchy rather than a democracy, maybe we have not quite reached that point but we on the road.
We are told repeatedly that the monarch has no role but the reality seems at odds with that. The Queen had over 1000 bills altered to suit her. The PM meets regularly with the monarch in secret, so we have no idea how much influence is exerted beyond what we see in the tax advantaged duchies. |
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"I'm ignoring it zero respect for the obvious reason
What obvious reason? That you're a republican?
Or maybe just a democrat... as in democracy?
Sure. I was genuinely curious. I don't have an especially strong view. We do we live in a democracy already (even if it's slightly flawed); the monarchy has no real role in government, beyond ceremony. If we removed it (and there are strong arguments that it's an outdated institution), we'd become a republic!
There are some convincing studies that indicate the UK is now an oligarchy rather than a democracy, maybe we have not quite reached that point but we on the road.
We are told repeatedly that the monarch has no role but the reality seems at odds with that. The Queen had over 1000 bills altered to suit her. The PM meets regularly with the monarch in secret, so we have no idea how much influence is exerted beyond what we see in the tax advantaged duchies. "
See the then Prince Charles black spider memos
Also the monarch often use their speeches to influence policy or to make their wishes on certain matters known. |
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By *etro1940sCouple
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We will be celebrating - picnic in the park down near the river with friends at Kingston on the Sunday ; probably watching the coverage on the Saturday - it is a personal thing but we believe these events bring us together as Brits (plus the Commonwealth). A & G |
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"I'm ignoring it zero respect for the obvious reason
What obvious reason? That you're a republican?
Or maybe just a democrat... as in democracy?
Sure. I was genuinely curious. I don't have an especially strong view. We do we live in a democracy already (even if it's slightly flawed); the monarchy has no real role in government, beyond ceremony. If we removed it (and there are strong arguments that it's an outdated institution), we'd become a republic!
There are some convincing studies that indicate the UK is now an oligarchy rather than a democracy, maybe we have not quite reached that point but we on the road.
We are told repeatedly that the monarch has no role but the reality seems at odds with that. The Queen had over 1000 bills altered to suit her. The PM meets regularly with the monarch in secret, so we have no idea how much influence is exerted beyond what we see in the tax advantaged duchies. "
My view - and it's a personal one, obviously - is that any influence is marginal. And certainly on the biggest policy issues, but I agree influence is greater than nil overall. There are definitely pros and cons for an alternative system, but on balance I'd stick with what we have, given the choice. Lord knows who "the people" would elect as Head of State! |
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"Nope i think the queen was the last royal for me, Charlie boy doesn't cut it
We should've taken the opportunity to abolish the monarchy when she died - it's well overdue time to break the cycle. Hopefully, that'll happen when Charles dies."
Doubt it, because William and Catherine are quite popular. |
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"Nope i think the queen was the last royal for me, Charlie boy doesn't cut it
We should've taken the opportunity to abolish the monarchy when she died - it's well overdue time to break the cycle. Hopefully, that'll happen when Charles dies.
Doubt it, because William and Catherine are quite popular. "
Unlikely that I shall ever find out! |
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"Nope i think the queen was the last royal for me, Charlie boy doesn't cut it
We should've taken the opportunity to abolish the monarchy when she died - it's well overdue time to break the cycle. Hopefully, that'll happen when Charles dies.
Doubt it, because William and Catherine are quite popular. "
They do seem to be don't they. |
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"Nope i think the queen was the last royal for me, Charlie boy doesn't cut it
We should've taken the opportunity to abolish the monarchy when she died - it's well overdue time to break the cycle. Hopefully, that'll happen when Charles dies.
Doubt it, because William and Catherine are quite popular.
They do seem to be don't they. "
It's all down to which royals the newspapers decide we should like. |
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By *opinovMan
over a year ago
Point Nemo, Cumbria |
"Nope i think the queen was the last royal for me, Charlie boy doesn't cut it
We should've taken the opportunity to abolish the monarchy when she died - it's well overdue time to break the cycle. Hopefully, that'll happen when Charles dies.
Doubt it, because William and Catherine are quite popular. "
Well, he's 74 now so we're talking likely in 20 years or so. A lot can happen in that time. Perhaps William might decide to abolish monarchy off his own bat in favour of a quiet life - I doubt it though, so probably best to wean them off the public tit sooner rather than later. |
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"Obviously being Irish I have zero interest in the event or the people involved."
I’d love to be in Dublin with a pint (or maybe 2) of Guinness and ignore it all. |
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"Obviously being Irish I have zero interest in the event or the people involved.
I’d love to be in Dublin with a pint (or maybe 2) of Guinness and ignore it all. "
That's obviously more obvious (the likelyhood of Guinness drinking) than the obvious conclusion that anyone from Belfast is obviously a British subject, even though they might obviously be Irish! |
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"Not my king."
For those of us with Channel Islands' allegiance the late Queen was always known as 'La Reine, notre Duc'(of Normandy and, oddly, taking the male title). Charles will become 'Le Roi, notre Duc'.
Camilla will presumably become 'Duchess Consort (of Normandy)' to the tradition loving islanders.
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"Obviously being Irish I have zero interest in the event or the people involved.
I’d love to be in Dublin with a pint (or maybe 2) of Guinness and ignore it all.
That's obviously more obvious (the likelyhood of Guinness drinking) than the obvious conclusion that anyone from Belfast is obviously a British subject, even though they might obviously be Irish!"
Or that everyone in Ireland actually drinks alcohol. |
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"Obviously being Irish I have zero interest in the event or the people involved.
I’d love to be in Dublin with a pint (or maybe 2) of Guinness and ignore it all.
That's obviously more obvious (the likelyhood of Guinness drinking) than the obvious conclusion that anyone from Belfast is obviously a British subject, even though they might obviously be Irish!
Or that everyone in Ireland actually drinks alcohol. "
Quite! |
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"Nope i think the queen was the last royal for me, Charlie boy doesn't cut it
We should've taken the opportunity to abolish the monarchy when she died - it's well overdue time to break the cycle. Hopefully, that'll happen when Charles dies.
Doubt it, because William and Catherine are quite popular.
They do seem to be don't they.
It's all down to which royals the newspapers decide we should like."
And the palace spin doctors |
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