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"Any tipsters on here with any good winner/ew bets to share "The prices have dropped on the top 10 horses, so you need to put a few quid on to get a return. But I've got a few quid on Any Second Now | |||
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"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum." I’ll get my popcorn ready | |||
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"I have done two £3 each way bets on Corach Rambler & Gaillard Du Mensil and £1.50 each way on Galvin let’s hope for a good race and all horses and jockeys come back safely " Have no idea but have put on corach rambler here’s fingers crossed | |||
"Sam Brown. 2.50ew Lifetime ambition.1.25ew Ain't that a shame.1.25ew" Yay in the SB club!! | |||
"Wont tip a horse but will advise that studying the form is a good bet. GN is a luck heavy race but a good stayer on low weights always has a chance" I've never done it by for. I've always just picked by name | |||
"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum." Can you explain how using tongue ties, bits, horses running till their lungs bleed, using whips to mimic an attack by a predator from behind, and then shooting thrm if they get injured is not cruel. Put it this way. Would you put your child through that. If the answer is no, then why is it ok to put a horse through it. If people think the GN is such a spectacle, then they should be forced to watch the whole event. So when a poor horss is being murdered track side, instead of screening it off, they shoukd show the execution on the big screens all round the course | |||
"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum. Can you explain how using tongue ties, bits, horses running till their lungs bleed, using whips to mimic an attack by a predator from behind, and then shooting thrm if they get injured is not cruel. Put it this way. Would you put your child through that. If the answer is no, then why is it ok to put a horse through it. If people think the GN is such a spectacle, then they should be forced to watch the whole event. So when a poor horss is being murdered track side, instead of screening it off, they shoukd show the execution on the big screens all round the course" I like your energy but dont expend it too much, after all they race horses for another 300+ days a year so you need to keep some in the tank | |||
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"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum. Can you explain how using tongue ties, bits, horses running till their lungs bleed, using whips to mimic an attack by a predator from behind, and then shooting thrm if they get injured is not cruel. Put it this way. Would you put your child through that. If the answer is no, then why is it ok to put a horse through it. If people think the GN is such a spectacle, then they should be forced to watch the whole event. So when a poor horss is being murdered track side, instead of screening it off, they shoukd show the execution on the big screens all round the course" This! Spot on | |||
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"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum. Can you explain how using tongue ties, bits, horses running till their lungs bleed, using whips to mimic an attack by a predator from behind, and then shooting thrm if they get injured is not cruel. Put it this way. Would you put your child through that. If the answer is no, then why is it ok to put a horse through it. If people think the GN is such a spectacle, then they should be forced to watch the whole event. So when a poor horss is being murdered track side, instead of screening it off, they shoukd show the execution on the big screens all round the course" Your very passionate about it aren't you, do u have much experience of working with animals? I'm going to guess not, otherwise you'd know that whip use isnt to imitate the attack of a predator from behind and that whip use is regulated in racing, And that tongue ties were left back in the 90s and are also illegal within the sport, not.to mention that a good strong 90% of ridden horses wear a bit! Racehorses are bred to race, they live in absolute luxury and what for nothing, they're finely tuned atheletes, they weigh half a tonne, if they didn't want to race there is nothing a 5ft, 7stone piss wet through jockey cn do to make them! Statistically more horses are humanely euthanaised as a result of broken limbs in accidents at home, in the field.... Should we ban them from living outside, just as nature intended aswell, just to be on the safe side? | |||
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"Got thrown out bookies a few years ago for asking to place a bet on how many horses would be murdered on course during the so called 'festival' week"   xxx | |||
"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum. Can you explain how using tongue ties, bits, horses running till their lungs bleed, using whips to mimic an attack by a predator from behind, and then shooting thrm if they get injured is not cruel. Put it this way. Would you put your child through that. If the answer is no, then why is it ok to put a horse through it. If people think the GN is such a spectacle, then they should be forced to watch the whole event. So when a poor horss is being murdered track side, instead of screening it off, they shoukd show the execution on the big screens all round the course"  1000% xx | |||
"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum. Can you explain how using tongue ties, bits, horses running till their lungs bleed, using whips to mimic an attack by a predator from behind, and then shooting thrm if they get injured is not cruel. Put it this way. Would you put your child through that. If the answer is no, then why is it ok to put a horse through it. If people think the GN is such a spectacle, then they should be forced to watch the whole event. So when a poor horss is being murdered track side, instead of screening it off, they shoukd show the execution on the big screens all round the course Your very passionate about it aren't you, do u have much experience of working with animals? I'm going to guess not, otherwise you'd know that whip use isnt to imitate the attack of a predator from behind and that whip use is regulated in racing, And that tongue ties were left back in the 90s and are also illegal within the sport, not.to mention that a good strong 90% of ridden horses wear a bit! Racehorses are bred to race, they live in absolute luxury and what for nothing, they're finely tuned atheletes, they weigh half a tonne, if they didn't want to race there is nothing a 5ft, 7stone piss wet through jockey cn do to make them! Statistically more horses are humanely euthanaised as a result of broken limbs in accidents at home, in the field.... Should we ban them from living outside, just as nature intended aswell, just to be on the safe side? " Ohh that old chestnut!  | |||
"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum. Can you explain how using tongue ties, bits, horses running till their lungs bleed, using whips to mimic an attack by a predator from behind, and then shooting thrm if they get injured is not cruel. Put it this way. Would you put your child through that. If the answer is no, then why is it ok to put a horse through it. If people think the GN is such a spectacle, then they should be forced to watch the whole event. So when a poor horss is being murdered track side, instead of screening it off, they shoukd show the execution on the big screens all round the course Your very passionate about it aren't you, do u have much experience of working with animals? I'm going to guess not, otherwise you'd know that whip use isnt to imitate the attack of a predator from behind and that whip use is regulated in racing, And that tongue ties were left back in the 90s and are also illegal within the sport, not.to mention that a good strong 90% of ridden horses wear a bit! Racehorses are bred to race, they live in absolute luxury and what for nothing, they're finely tuned atheletes, they weigh half a tonne, if they didn't want to race there is nothing a 5ft, 7stone piss wet through jockey cn do to make them! Statistically more horses are humanely euthanaised as a result of broken limbs in accidents at home, in the field.... Should we ban them from living outside, just as nature intended aswell, just to be on the safe side? Don't pander to the minority lodging inbreds...that's the problem with the world at the moment...the melts thinking they know what's best for the majority whilst generally being clueless...if you don't like horse racing I have one answer "SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DONT WATCH"" Lovely! | |||
"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum. Can you explain how using tongue ties, bits, horses running till their lungs bleed, using whips to mimic an attack by a predator from behind, and then shooting thrm if they get injured is not cruel. Put it this way. Would you put your child through that. If the answer is no, then why is it ok to put a horse through it. If people think the GN is such a spectacle, then they should be forced to watch the whole event. So when a poor horss is being murdered track side, instead of screening it off, they shoukd show the execution on the big screens all round the course Your very passionate about it aren't you, do u have much experience of working with animals? I'm going to guess not, otherwise you'd know that whip use isnt to imitate the attack of a predator from behind and that whip use is regulated in racing, And that tongue ties were left back in the 90s and are also illegal within the sport, not.to mention that a good strong 90% of ridden horses wear a bit! Racehorses are bred to race, they live in absolute luxury and what for nothing, they're finely tuned atheletes, they weigh half a tonne, if they didn't want to race there is nothing a 5ft, 7stone piss wet through jockey cn do to make them! Statistically more horses are humanely euthanaised as a result of broken limbs in accidents at home, in the field.... Should we ban them from living outside, just as nature intended aswell, just to be on the safe side? " If the use of a whip isnt cruel in any sense, be it in the mind, or paun, then why would there be a need to regulate it. As for living in luxury, if solitary confinement for a majority of the day apart from training is luxury them ask charles bronson how that feels. You believe what the glorified show you. And they have so much respect, that one of the very top trainers in britain was sat on top of a dead horse laughing. Yup, they sure do love them animals hey | |||
"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum. Can you explain how using tongue ties, bits, horses running till their lungs bleed, using whips to mimic an attack by a predator from behind, and then shooting thrm if they get injured is not cruel. Put it this way. Would you put your child through that. If the answer is no, then why is it ok to put a horse through it. If people think the GN is such a spectacle, then they should be forced to watch the whole event. So when a poor horss is being murdered track side, instead of screening it off, they shoukd show the execution on the big screens all round the course Your very passionate about it aren't you, do u have much experience of working with animals? I'm going to guess not, otherwise you'd know that whip use isnt to imitate the attack of a predator from behind and that whip use is regulated in racing, And that tongue ties were left back in the 90s and are also illegal within the sport, not.to mention that a good strong 90% of ridden horses wear a bit! Racehorses are bred to race, they live in absolute luxury and what for nothing, they're finely tuned atheletes, they weigh half a tonne, if they didn't want to race there is nothing a 5ft, 7stone piss wet through jockey cn do to make them! Statistically more horses are humanely euthanaised as a result of broken limbs in accidents at home, in the field.... Should we ban them from living outside, just as nature intended aswell, just to be on the safe side? If the use of a whip isnt cruel in any sense, be it in the mind, or paun, then why would there be a need to regulate it. As for living in luxury, if solitary confinement for a majority of the day apart from training is luxury them ask charles bronson how that feels. You believe what the glorified show you. And they have so much respect, that one of the very top trainers in britain was sat on top of a dead horse laughing. Yup, they sure do love them animals hey" These threads always go like this . I have horses and yes they live a great life. It’s pointless trying to even educate people who think like this so I don’t even bother anymore. Most people don’t have a bloody clue.
And find me one person horse owner or not who thought what that trainer did was ok?? | |||
"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum. Can you explain how using tongue ties, bits, horses running till their lungs bleed, using whips to mimic an attack by a predator from behind, and then shooting thrm if they get injured is not cruel. Put it this way. Would you put your child through that. If the answer is no, then why is it ok to put a horse through it. If people think the GN is such a spectacle, then they should be forced to watch the whole event. So when a poor horss is being murdered track side, instead of screening it off, they shoukd show the execution on the big screens all round the course Your very passionate about it aren't you, do u have much experience of working with animals? I'm going to guess not, otherwise you'd know that whip use isnt to imitate the attack of a predator from behind and that whip use is regulated in racing, And that tongue ties were left back in the 90s and are also illegal within the sport, not.to mention that a good strong 90% of ridden horses wear a bit! Racehorses are bred to race, they live in absolute luxury and what for nothing, they're finely tuned atheletes, they weigh half a tonne, if they didn't want to race there is nothing a 5ft, 7stone piss wet through jockey cn do to make them! Statistically more horses are humanely euthanaised as a result of broken limbs in accidents at home, in the field.... Should we ban them from living outside, just as nature intended aswell, just to be on the safe side? If the use of a whip isnt cruel in any sense, be it in the mind, or paun, then why would there be a need to regulate it. As for living in luxury, if solitary confinement for a majority of the day apart from training is luxury them ask charles bronson how that feels. You believe what the glorified show you. And they have so much respect, that one of the very top trainers in britain was sat on top of a dead horse laughing. Yup, they sure do love them animals hey" Like banging yr head against a wall! They won't listen! X x | |||
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"I have done two £3 each way bets on Corach Rambler & Gaillard Du Mensil and £1.50 each way on Galvin let’s hope for a good race and all horses and jockeys come back safely " are they dead certs?  | |||
"I have done two £3 each way bets on Corach Rambler & Gaillard Du Mensil and £1.50 each way on Galvin let’s hope for a good race and all horses and jockeys come back safely are they dead certs? ". No such thing as a dead cert in the Grand National as it one of only 2-3 races run over 4 miles most are 3 - 3 and a half miles so lots of horses will be going into the unknown | |||
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"Looks like race maybe delayed thanks to these animal right protesters " Just seen this. If people want to protest fine but this is not a peaceful protest. | |||
"Looks like race maybe delayed thanks to these animal right protesters Just seen this. If people want to protest fine but this is not a peaceful protest. " . Looks like only a few have managed to get onto the course | |||
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"I worry for the jockeys if this gets underway. " I was just thinking the same. Whoever is responsible for security should be sacked! | |||
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"I worry for the jockeys if this gets underway. I was just thinking the same. Whoever is responsible for security should be sacked!" How do you keep such a vast perimeter secure | |||
"Looks like race maybe delayed thanks to these animal right protesters Just seen this. If people want to protest fine but this is not a peaceful protest. . Looks like only a few have managed to get onto the course " Thankfully. Looks like they've managed to get it under control | |||
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"I worry for the jockeys if this gets underway. I was just thinking the same. Whoever is responsible for security should be sacked! How do you keep such a vast perimeter secure " Well if security is your business, I wouldn't have thought it wasn't that difficult. | |||
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"I have done two £3 each way bets on Corach Rambler & Gaillard Du Mensil and £1.50 each way on Galvin let’s hope for a good race and all horses and jockeys come back safely are they dead certs? ". Well I got the 1st at 19/2 & 3rd at 12/1 so £50.40 in my Ladbrokes online account happy days | |||
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"Well done to all connected with a remarkable horse, Corach Rambler.. Fantastic bit of training . Also congratulate the security etc and I am so pleased for the majority of people in Liverpool who just love this race. As for the bunny cuddlers, you had your 15 minutes of fame today and raised awareness even if the timing wasn't ideal,but can I suggest you listen to the interview with Peter Scudamore about the relationship between man and horse... It is very important that racing listens to those who would like it abolished, because of this dialogue over the years many changes have taken place...fences much safer, whips padded and things will continue to evolve in the interest of all.." . The trainer Lucinda Russell and jockey Derek Fox won the Grand National in 2017 with a horse called One For Arthur who passed away this year.As Peter Scudamore said maybe the animal rights protesters should come and have a look at the stables and how well treated the horses are.As has already been pointed out many changes have taken place over the years with regards to the horses health and safety and making racing safer. | |||
"Well done to all connected with a remarkable horse, Corach Rambler.. Fantastic bit of training . Also congratulate the security etc and I am so pleased for the majority of people in Liverpool who just love this race. As for the bunny cuddlers, you had your 15 minutes of fame today and raised awareness even if the timing wasn't ideal,but can I suggest you listen to the interview with Peter Scudamore about the relationship between man and horse... It is very important that racing listens to those who would like it abolished, because of this dialogue over the years many changes have taken place...fences much safer, whips padded and things will continue to evolve in the interest of all... The trainer Lucinda Russell and jockey Derek Fox won the Grand National in 2017 with a horse called One For Arthur who passed away this year.As Peter Scudamore said maybe the animal rights protesters should come and have a look at the stables and how well treated the horses are.As has already been pointed out many changes have taken place over the years with regards to the horses health and safety and making racing safer." Whilst I don't agree with protesting! How about when the horses get injured and have to b shot?? Just for man's pleasure and greed? X | |||
"Well done to all connected with a remarkable horse, Corach Rambler.. Fantastic bit of training . Also congratulate the security etc and I am so pleased for the majority of people in Liverpool who just love this race. As for the bunny cuddlers, you had your 15 minutes of fame today and raised awareness even if the timing wasn't ideal,but can I suggest you listen to the interview with Peter Scudamore about the relationship between man and horse... It is very important that racing listens to those who would like it abolished, because of this dialogue over the years many changes have taken place...fences much safer, whips padded and things will continue to evolve in the interest of all... The trainer Lucinda Russell and jockey Derek Fox won the Grand National in 2017 with a horse called One For Arthur who passed away this year.As Peter Scudamore said maybe the animal rights protesters should come and have a look at the stables and how well treated the horses are.As has already been pointed out many changes have taken place over the years with regards to the horses health and safety and making racing safer. Whilst I don't agree with protesting! How about when the horses get injured and have to b shot?? Just for man's pleasure and greed? X" . Unfortunately horses will get injured and have to be put down.It’s probably best that the animal doesn’t suffer any longer than it has to. | |||
"Well done to all connected with a remarkable horse, Corach Rambler.. Fantastic bit of training . Also congratulate the security etc and I am so pleased for the majority of people in Liverpool who just love this race. As for the bunny cuddlers, you had your 15 minutes of fame today and raised awareness even if the timing wasn't ideal,but can I suggest you listen to the interview with Peter Scudamore about the relationship between man and horse... It is very important that racing listens to those who would like it abolished, because of this dialogue over the years many changes have taken place...fences much safer, whips padded and things will continue to evolve in the interest of all... The trainer Lucinda Russell and jockey Derek Fox won the Grand National in 2017 with a horse called One For Arthur who passed away this year.As Peter Scudamore said maybe the animal rights protesters should come and have a look at the stables and how well treated the horses are.As has already been pointed out many changes have taken place over the years with regards to the horses health and safety and making racing safer. Whilst I don't agree with protesting! How about when the horses get injured and have to b shot?? Just for man's pleasure and greed? X. Unfortunately horses will get injured and have to be put down.It’s probably best that the animal doesn’t suffer any longer than it has to." It wouldn't if it didn't race in these ridiculous races?? X | |||
"Well done to all connected with a remarkable horse, Corach Rambler.. Fantastic bit of training . Also congratulate the security etc and I am so pleased for the majority of people in Liverpool who just love this race. As for the bunny cuddlers, you had your 15 minutes of fame today and raised awareness even if the timing wasn't ideal,but can I suggest you listen to the interview with Peter Scudamore about the relationship between man and horse... It is very important that racing listens to those who would like it abolished, because of this dialogue over the years many changes have taken place...fences much safer, whips padded and things will continue to evolve in the interest of all... The trainer Lucinda Russell and jockey Derek Fox won the Grand National in 2017 with a horse called One For Arthur who passed away this year.As Peter Scudamore said maybe the animal rights protesters should come and have a look at the stables and how well treated the horses are.As has already been pointed out many changes have taken place over the years with regards to the horses health and safety and making racing safer." Around 200 horses die in UK races every year. That's not my idea of sport. If it was bullfighting, everybody would be outraged. | |||
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"I’m just chuckling at ‘we are the master race’ …….all we have done is decimate the planets natural resources, wage war on every single different ethnicity and create a capitalist system which feeds the 0.1 percent, there’s many an apex predator out there which could quite easily destroy us either individually or en masse, locusts can swarm and destroy millions of tonnes of food in hours, killer whales will not stop if you are in the water fucking about, bears will eat you alive, master race? No respect for the natural environment or indeed animals, horses included, it’s barbaric, stop it " Chuckle chuckle, you see any other species building houses, roads, bridges, planes, trains etc or running banks, creating industry. Pretty silly argument when you consider it. No Whale, Bear or Apex predator has achieved anything of note in thousands of years but we can just shoot them dead like the master race we are. Emotion got in the way of you making a valid point. | |||
"Well done to all connected with a remarkable horse, Corach Rambler.. Fantastic bit of training . Also congratulate the security etc and I am so pleased for the majority of people in Liverpool who just love this race. As for the bunny cuddlers, you had your 15 minutes of fame today and raised awareness even if the timing wasn't ideal,but can I suggest you listen to the interview with Peter Scudamore about the relationship between man and horse... It is very important that racing listens to those who would like it abolished, because of this dialogue over the years many changes have taken place...fences much safer, whips padded and things will continue to evolve in the interest of all... The trainer Lucinda Russell and jockey Derek Fox won the Grand National in 2017 with a horse called One For Arthur who passed away this year.As Peter Scudamore said maybe the animal rights protesters should come and have a look at the stables and how well treated the horses are.As has already been pointed out many changes have taken place over the years with regards to the horses health and safety and making racing safer. Around 200 horses die in UK races every year. That's not my idea of sport. If it was bullfighting, everybody would be outraged." This is a tiny minority of horses that race, it is worth mentioning that these wonderful creatures wouldn't have a life at all if it wasn't for breeding and racing...I have worked with racehorses and have also worked with problem families and from my experience many horses are treated better than some children. | |||
"Daft each way bet on Born by the sea, simply because I was. " Damn thing only went and won me £55. Lol | |||
"Daft each way bet on Born by the sea, simply because I was. Damn thing only went and won me £55. Lol" . That’s the good thing about the Grand National they pay out on the first 6 places if you do each way which it seems like you did well done | |||
"Daft each way bet on Born by the sea, simply because I was. Damn thing only went and won me £55. Lol. That’s the good thing about the Grand National they pay out on the first 6 places if you do each way which it seems like you did well done " That's OK if you bet online but as often is the case betting shops only paid 5 places.. Skybet paid 7 | |||
"Well done to all connected with a remarkable horse, Corach Rambler.. Fantastic bit of training . Also congratulate the security etc and I am so pleased for the majority of people in Liverpool who just love this race. As for the bunny cuddlers, you had your 15 minutes of fame today and raised awareness even if the timing wasn't ideal,but can I suggest you listen to the interview with Peter Scudamore about the relationship between man and horse... It is very important that racing listens to those who would like it abolished, because of this dialogue over the years many changes have taken place...fences much safer, whips padded and things will continue to evolve in the interest of all... The trainer Lucinda Russell and jockey Derek Fox won the Grand National in 2017 with a horse called One For Arthur who passed away this year.As Peter Scudamore said maybe the animal rights protesters should come and have a look at the stables and how well treated the horses are.As has already been pointed out many changes have taken place over the years with regards to the horses health and safety and making racing safer. Around 200 horses die in UK races every year. That's not my idea of sport. If it was bullfighting, everybody would be outraged. This is a tiny minority of horses that race, it is worth mentioning that these wonderful creatures wouldn't have a life at all if it wasn't for breeding and racing...I have worked with racehorses and have also worked with problem families and from my experience many horses are treated better than some children. " Well that's OK then, we graciously look after horses, then put a man on their back, whip them over impossible jumps and kill them. Nice. | |||
"Well done to all connected with a remarkable horse, Corach Rambler.. Fantastic bit of training . Also congratulate the security etc and I am so pleased for the majority of people in Liverpool who just love this race. As for the bunny cuddlers, you had your 15 minutes of fame today and raised awareness even if the timing wasn't ideal,but can I suggest you listen to the interview with Peter Scudamore about the relationship between man and horse... It is very important that racing listens to those who would like it abolished, because of this dialogue over the years many changes have taken place...fences much safer, whips padded and things will continue to evolve in the interest of all... The trainer Lucinda Russell and jockey Derek Fox won the Grand National in 2017 with a horse called One For Arthur who passed away this year.As Peter Scudamore said maybe the animal rights protesters should come and have a look at the stables and how well treated the horses are.As has already been pointed out many changes have taken place over the years with regards to the horses health and safety and making racing safer. Around 200 horses die in UK races every year. That's not my idea of sport. If it was bullfighting, everybody would be outraged. This is a tiny minority of horses that race, it is worth mentioning that these wonderful creatures wouldn't have a life at all if it wasn't for breeding and racing...I have worked with racehorses and have also worked with problem families and from my experience many horses are treated better than some children. Well that's OK then, we graciously look after horses, then put a man on their back, whip them over impossible jumps and kill them. Nice." Just a few, collateral damage. | |||
"I’m just chuckling at ‘we are the master race’ …….all we have done is decimate the planets natural resources, wage war on every single different ethnicity and create a capitalist system which feeds the 0.1 percent, there’s many an apex predator out there which could quite easily destroy us either individually or en masse, locusts can swarm and destroy millions of tonnes of food in hours, killer whales will not stop if you are in the water fucking about, bears will eat you alive, master race? No respect for the natural environment or indeed animals, horses included, it’s barbaric, stop it Chuckle chuckle, you see any other species building houses, roads, bridges, planes, trains etc or running banks, creating industry. Pretty silly argument when you consider it. No Whale, Bear or Apex predator has achieved anything of note in thousands of years but we can just shoot them dead like the master race we are. Emotion got in the way of you making a valid point." Yes that’s right shoot everything because you know what ? Shooting and dominance is the way forward, just kill everything and plunder, master race after all, that’s what we do, no exit strategy needed because we are masters, we don’t need a plan …… honestly | |||
"I’m just chuckling at ‘we are the master race’ …….all we have done is decimate the planets natural resources, wage war on every single different ethnicity and create a capitalist system which feeds the 0.1 percent, there’s many an apex predator out there which could quite easily destroy us either individually or en masse, locusts can swarm and destroy millions of tonnes of food in hours, killer whales will not stop if you are in the water fucking about, bears will eat you alive, master race? No respect for the natural environment or indeed animals, horses included, it’s barbaric, stop it Chuckle chuckle, you see any other species building houses, roads, bridges, planes, trains etc or running banks, creating industry. Pretty silly argument when you consider it. No Whale, Bear or Apex predator has achieved anything of note in thousands of years but we can just shoot them dead like the master race we are. Emotion got in the way of you making a valid point. Yes that’s right shoot everything because you know what ? Shooting and dominance is the way forward, just kill everything and plunder, master race after all, that’s what we do, no exit strategy needed because we are masters, we don’t need a plan …… honestly " It makes him feel like 'the master race' though Thoughts with the lives lost at the Good old 'Grand' National today | |||
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"As Peter Scudamore said maybe the animal rights protesters should come and have a look at the stables and how well treated the horses are. " Anyone else wondering whether Peter Scudamore had a vested interest in proffering that facile argument? How do comfortable stables negate the risk of injury and death from this gambling driven steeplechasing event? No doubt while the horse is waiting to be shot, it is content to have played up and played the game in the name of sport and can therefore die happy. Anyone asked them? Mr Scudamore for starters? | |||
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"Just to stoke the fires here - one of the horses that sadly died during todays race was as a result of the protests that took place. The horses owner came out to say that due to the delays the horse got unusually wound up & didnt take the first fence properly - falling for the first time in its career. By all accounts the horse was placid before the delays took place - so despite what they claim, those who protested today in advocation of animal safety actually directly contributed to at least one horses death. " Comparable argument with that of Peter Scudamore? | |||
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"Just to stoke the fires here - one of the horses that sadly died during todays race was as a result of the protests that took place. The horses owner came out to say that due to the delays the horse got unusually wound up & didnt take the first fence properly - falling for the first time in its career. By all accounts the horse was placid before the delays took place - so despite what they claim, those who protested today in advocation of animal safety actually directly contributed to at least one horses death. " | |||
"A disgusting display of man’s disregard for other animals. But, hey humans make cash " | |||
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"A disgusting display of man’s disregard for other animals. But, hey humans make cash " Agreed. 3 horses died and for what? Those blaming the protestors need to remember that horses regularly die at this event. The horses wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the money that can be made. | |||
"Rip Hill sixteen! We really need to ban this barbaric so called sport for vile humans greed and pleasure! " So many thousands of horses would be euthanized from that outcome | |||
"Rip Hill sixteen! We really need to ban this barbaric so called sport for vile humans greed and pleasure! So many thousands of horses would be euthanized from that outcome "Is that the horse that protesters sacrificed in a vile display of mob violence and lawlessness ? | |||
"Rip Hill sixteen! We really need to ban this barbaric so called sport for vile humans greed and pleasure! " Not happening any time soon, thousands enjoy the sport, nothing Barbaric about it which means savagely cruel as the horses are treated beyond well. Bull fighting is Barbaric as the bull is ultimately brutalised to death & surely you can see the horses are treated beyond well but accidents happen in sport. Feeling emotional about it doesn't make it wrong. | |||
"Rip Hill sixteen! We really need to ban this barbaric so called sport for vile humans greed and pleasure! So many thousands of horses would be euthanized from that outcome
Is that the horse that protesters sacrificed in a vile display of mob violence and lawlessness ?
"Nope! Not the protesters!the vile organisers /promoters/supporters of this vile so called sport! | |||
"Rip Hill sixteen! We really need to ban this barbaric so called sport for vile humans greed and pleasure! Not happening any time soon, thousands enjoy the sport, nothing Barbaric about it which means savagely cruel as the horses are treated beyond well. Bull fighting is Barbaric as the bull is ultimately brutalised to death & surely you can see the horses are treated beyond well but accidents happen in sport. Feeling emotional about it doesn't make it wrong. " Have to agree to disagree on that!  | |||
"Rip Hill sixteen! We really need to ban this barbaric so called sport for vile humans greed and pleasure! So many thousands of horses would be euthanized from that outcome "Um nope! Lots of kind humans would step in and take them in! My friend has a ex race horse amongst her 7 horses! | |||
"A disgusting display of man’s disregard for other animals. But, hey humans make cash Agreed. 3 horses died and for what? Those blaming the protestors need to remember that horses regularly die at this event. The horses wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the money that can be made." But possibly one less if they didn't disrupt its build up. | |||
"Just gonna park myself here, for no reason other than to watch the wet wipes who wouldn't know the biting end, from the shite-ing end of a horse bang the 'racing is cruel' drum. Can you explain how using tongue ties, bits, horses running till their lungs bleed, using whips to mimic an attack by a predator from behind, and then shooting thrm if they get injured is not cruel. Put it this way. Would you put your child through that. If the answer is no, then why is it ok to put a horse through it. If people think the GN is such a spectacle, then they should be forced to watch the whole event. So when a poor horss is being murdered track side, instead of screening it off, they shoukd show the execution on the big screens all round the course" Yawn…… | |||
"A disgusting display of man’s disregard for other animals. But, hey humans make cash Agreed. 3 horses died and for what? Those blaming the protestors need to remember that horses regularly die at this event. The horses wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the money that can be made." Those blaming the protesters (which I don't stand with btw) are just using them as a cop out! X | |||
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"Rip Hill sixteen! We really need to ban this barbaric so called sport for vile humans greed and pleasure! So many thousands of horses would be euthanized from that outcome
Um nope! Lots of kind humans would step in and take them in! My friend has a ex race horse amongst her 7 horses! "Horses are being abandoned by the droves due to the cost of living crisis. I counted six dead ones in a field not too long ago. A mother and foul were abandoned by the side of the road at the local industrial estate. I seriously doubt people will have the means to take thousands of horses. | |||
"Rip Hill sixteen! We really need to ban this barbaric so called sport for vile humans greed and pleasure! So many thousands of horses would be euthanized from that outcome
Um nope! Lots of kind humans would step in and take them in! My friend has a ex race horse amongst her 7 horses! "They would be sold for meat. | |||
"Rip Hill sixteen! We really need to ban this barbaric so called sport for vile humans greed and pleasure! So many thousands of horses would be euthanized from that outcome
Um nope! Lots of kind humans would step in and take them in! My friend has a ex race horse amongst her 7 horses!
They would be sold for meat."So just go on with the cycle of barbaric events then?? All I see here is excuses for justification ! | |||
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"They shouldn't ban horse racing but I do think its about time they got rid of the hurdles and just raced on the flat." you know there's a difference between national hunt horses and flat racing horses. | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs." Maybe there needs to be an equally 'good hard look' at steeplechasing. Oh, I'm forgetting. The horses love it and are philosophical about the risk of getting shot. Still, full marks to the owners of the freaked out horse previously mentioned for placing first in the 'cause célèbre' race. Initially I thought they might simply be bad losers (not a good thing to be in 'sport'). Overall, in the responsibility debate, the blood is more on the hands of the racing industry for creating the jeopardy in the first place. | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. Maybe there needs to be an equally 'good hard look' at steeplechasing. Oh, I'm forgetting. The horses love it and are philosophical about the risk of getting shot. Still, full marks to the owners of the freaked out horse previously mentioned for placing first in the 'cause célèbre' race. Initially I thought they might simply be bad losers (not a good thing to be in 'sport'). Overall, in the responsibility debate, the blood is more on the hands of the racing industry for creating the jeopardy in the first place. " exactly! 100% x | |||
"They shouldn't ban horse racing but I do think its about time they got rid of the hurdles and just raced on the flat.you know there's a difference between national hunt horses and flat racing horses. " Quite right. There is no rhyming slang in 'flat racing'! | |||
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"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. Maybe there needs to be an equally 'good hard look' at steeplechasing. Oh, I'm forgetting. The horses love it and are philosophical about the risk of getting shot. Still, full marks to the owners of the freaked out horse previously mentioned for placing first in the 'cause célèbre' race. Initially I thought they might simply be bad losers (not a good thing to be in 'sport'). Overall, in the responsibility debate, the blood is more on the hands of the racing industry for creating the jeopardy in the first place. " No it's not. The responsibility is on the hands of the people who support racing and all the other sports that we animals include in, a horse can have a unrecoverable injury at any time in any (including olympics) sports/shows, but daring stunts is what the people love and pay to see no... | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. Maybe there needs to be an equally 'good hard look' at steeplechasing. Oh, I'm forgetting. The horses love it and are philosophical about the risk of getting shot. Still, full marks to the owners of the freaked out horse previously mentioned for placing first in the 'cause célèbre' race. Initially I thought they might simply be bad losers (not a good thing to be in 'sport'). Overall, in the responsibility debate, the blood is more on the hands of the racing industry for creating the jeopardy in the first place. No it's not. The responsibility is on the hands of the people who support racing and all the other sports that we animals include in, a horse can have a unrecoverable injury at any time in any (including olympics) sports/shows, but daring stunts is what the people love and pay to see no..." this for me sums up sport that includes animals, accidents happen, you can blame others but ultimately it could as easily happen in the wild jumping over a fallen tree etc | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs." I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong?? | |||
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"Had £50 on Corach Rambler Nice wee return of £550 "I had £15 to win | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong??" Maybe not if the protesters are behaving badly(I don't watch telly so haven't seen them in order to comment on their terrorist status). However, I certainly don't support the disposability of horses' lives through the so called sport of steeplechasing. I'm not one of the people the protesters need to sway. I'm with them in principle, not necessarily with their tactics. Nevertheless, I'm still bemused by the illogical 'blood on their hands' rhetoric on here. Far too simplistic but all good emotive stuff! | |||
"They shouldn't ban horse racing but I do think its about time they got rid of the hurdles and just raced on the flat." The Grand National isnt ran over hurdles… | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong?? Maybe not if the protesters are behaving badly(I don't watch telly so haven't seen them in order to comment on their terrorist status). However, I certainly don't support the disposability of horses' lives through the so called sport of steeplechasing. I'm not one of the people the protesters need to sway. I'm with them in principle, not necessarily with their tactics. Nevertheless, I'm still bemused by the illogical 'blood on their hands' rhetoric on here. Far too simplistic but all good emotive stuff! " I think what the issue is here is that those who dont agree with horse racing arent entering the reality that by protesting they can well be adding to the issue rather than ‘saving’ horses. I think a lot of points are missed on the horses such as their stellar treatment & the fact that if horse racing was the cease then essentially youre wiping out an entire breed of an animal out, as these horses have been bred specifically to race & outside the sphere of racing or its associated practices these horses dont make for much use to anyone. Add in to that an assumption that those who tend to the horses dont actually care about them is so misguided, nobody is more upset when a horse dies than jta owners, stable hands, groomers & the conditional jockeys who ride these horses out every day in all conditions. What I will accept from the argument however is the Grand National has to change - as a horse racing fan from local P2P’s to the Gold Cup - the National is a farce, the qualifying criteria is too simple, too many jockeys are lacking in experience, there’s too many horses & its ran over a mile too far. If I owned a race horse, I wouldnt entertain a runner in the National | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong?? Maybe not if the protesters are behaving badly(I don't watch telly so haven't seen them in order to comment on their terrorist status). However, I certainly don't support the disposability of horses' lives through the so called sport of steeplechasing. I'm not one of the people the protesters need to sway. I'm with them in principle, not necessarily with their tactics. Nevertheless, I'm still bemused by the illogical 'blood on their hands' rhetoric on here. Far too simplistic but all good emotive stuff! " Agree! X | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong?? Maybe not if the protesters are behaving badly(I don't watch telly so haven't seen them in order to comment on their terrorist status). However, I certainly don't support the disposability of horses' lives through the so called sport of steeplechasing. I'm not one of the people the protesters need to sway. I'm with them in principle, not necessarily with their tactics. Nevertheless, I'm still bemused by the illogical 'blood on their hands' rhetoric on here. Far too simplistic but all good emotive stuff! I think what the issue is here is that those who dont agree with horse racing arent entering the reality that by protesting they can well be adding to the issue rather than ‘saving’ horses. I think a lot of points are missed on the horses such as their stellar treatment & the fact that if horse racing was the cease then essentially youre wiping out an entire breed of an animal out, as these horses have been bred specifically to race & outside the sphere of racing or its associated practices these horses dont make for much use to anyone. Add in to that an assumption that those who tend to the horses dont actually care about them is so misguided, nobody is more upset when a horse dies than jta owners, stable hands, groomers & the conditional jockeys who ride these horses out every day in all conditions. What I will accept from the argument however is the Grand National has to change - as a horse racing fan from local P2P’s to the Gold Cup - the National is a farce, the qualifying criteria is too simple, too many jockeys are lacking in experience, there’s too many horses & its ran over a mile too far. If I owned a race horse, I wouldnt entertain a runner in the National" Yes they would eventuality b wiped out ! Same as cows/sheep etc in great numbers if we stopped eating them! Which imo is not a bad thing! If I and my family were being bred for food or whatever I would rather we became extinct! | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong?? Maybe not if the protesters are behaving badly(I don't watch telly so haven't seen them in order to comment on their terrorist status). However, I certainly don't support the disposability of horses' lives through the so called sport of steeplechasing. I'm not one of the people the protesters need to sway. I'm with them in principle, not necessarily with their tactics. Nevertheless, I'm still bemused by the illogical 'blood on their hands' rhetoric on here. Far too simplistic but all good emotive stuff! I think what the issue is here is that those who dont agree with horse racing arent entering the reality that by protesting they can well be adding to the issue rather than ‘saving’ horses. I think a lot of points are missed on the horses such as their stellar treatment & the fact that if horse racing was the cease then essentially youre wiping out an entire breed of an animal out, as these horses have been bred specifically to race & outside the sphere of racing or its associated practices these horses dont make for much use to anyone. Add in to that an assumption that those who tend to the horses dont actually care about them is so misguided, nobody is more upset when a horse dies than jta owners, stable hands, groomers & the conditional jockeys who ride these horses out every day in all conditions. What I will accept from the argument however is the Grand National has to change - as a horse racing fan from local P2P’s to the Gold Cup - the National is a farce, the qualifying criteria is too simple, too many jockeys are lacking in experience, there’s too many horses & its ran over a mile too far. If I owned a race horse, I wouldnt entertain a runner in the National Yes they would eventuality b wiped out ! Same as cows/sheep etc in great numbers if we stopped eating them! Which imo is not a bad thing! If I and my family were being bred for food or whatever I would rather we became extinct!" Im sorry but at the point you start advocating for animals to wiped from the planet youve just gone too far with your argument, completely nonsensical | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong?? Maybe not if the protesters are behaving badly(I don't watch telly so haven't seen them in order to comment on their terrorist status). However, I certainly don't support the disposability of horses' lives through the so called sport of steeplechasing. I'm not one of the people the protesters need to sway. I'm with them in principle, not necessarily with their tactics. Nevertheless, I'm still bemused by the illogical 'blood on their hands' rhetoric on here. Far too simplistic but all good emotive stuff! I think what the issue is here is that those who dont agree with horse racing arent entering the reality that by protesting they can well be adding to the issue rather than ‘saving’ horses. I think a lot of points are missed on the horses such as their stellar treatment & the fact that if horse racing was the cease then essentially youre wiping out an entire breed of an animal out, as these horses have been bred specifically to race & outside the sphere of racing or its associated practices these horses dont make for much use to anyone. Add in to that an assumption that those who tend to the horses dont actually care about them is so misguided, nobody is more upset when a horse dies than jta owners, stable hands, groomers & the conditional jockeys who ride these horses out every day in all conditions. What I will accept from the argument however is the Grand National has to change - as a horse racing fan from local P2P’s to the Gold Cup - the National is a farce, the qualifying criteria is too simple, too many jockeys are lacking in experience, there’s too many horses & its ran over a mile too far. If I owned a race horse, I wouldnt entertain a runner in the National Yes they would eventuality b wiped out ! Same as cows/sheep etc in great numbers if we stopped eating them! Which imo is not a bad thing! If I and my family were being bred for food or whatever I would rather we became extinct! Im sorry but at the point you start advocating for animals to wiped from the planet youve just gone too far with your argument, completely nonsensical" Not to me! I'm talking animals used by us vile humans for whatever reason we see fit! The best bet would b for humans to die out and leave the animals to this world! We have totally ruined it! Unfortunately that will never happen! | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong?? Maybe not if the protesters are behaving badly(I don't watch telly so haven't seen them in order to comment on their terrorist status). However, I certainly don't support the disposability of horses' lives through the so called sport of steeplechasing. I'm not one of the people the protesters need to sway. I'm with them in principle, not necessarily with their tactics. Nevertheless, I'm still bemused by the illogical 'blood on their hands' rhetoric on here. Far too simplistic but all good emotive stuff! I think what the issue is here is that those who dont agree with horse racing arent entering the reality that by protesting they can well be adding to the issue rather than ‘saving’ horses. I think a lot of points are missed on the horses such as their stellar treatment & the fact that if horse racing was the cease then essentially youre wiping out an entire breed of an animal out, as these horses have been bred specifically to race & outside the sphere of racing or its associated practices these horses dont make for much use to anyone. Add in to that an assumption that those who tend to the horses dont actually care about them is so misguided, nobody is more upset when a horse dies than jta owners, stable hands, groomers & the conditional jockeys who ride these horses out every day in all conditions. What I will accept from the argument however is the Grand National has to change - as a horse racing fan from local P2P’s to the Gold Cup - the National is a farce, the qualifying criteria is too simple, too many jockeys are lacking in experience, there’s too many horses & its ran over a mile too far. If I owned a race horse, I wouldnt entertain a runner in the National" The jockey fefinitrly dont give a toss. They will just hop on their next pay cheque of the day and race the next race. And that guy sat laughing on a dead horsw really showed he cared hey. And hes just one who got caught out. How many more have that attitude, but never get outed | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong?? Maybe not if the protesters are behaving badly(I don't watch telly so haven't seen them in order to comment on their terrorist status). However, I certainly don't support the disposability of horses' lives through the so called sport of steeplechasing. I'm not one of the people the protesters need to sway. I'm with them in principle, not necessarily with their tactics. Nevertheless, I'm still bemused by the illogical 'blood on their hands' rhetoric on here. Far too simplistic but all good emotive stuff! I think what the issue is here is that those who dont agree with horse racing arent entering the reality that by protesting they can well be adding to the issue rather than ‘saving’ horses. I think a lot of points are missed on the horses such as their stellar treatment & the fact that if horse racing was the cease then essentially youre wiping out an entire breed of an animal out, as these horses have been bred specifically to race & outside the sphere of racing or its associated practices these horses dont make for much use to anyone. Add in to that an assumption that those who tend to the horses dont actually care about them is so misguided, nobody is more upset when a horse dies than jta owners, stable hands, groomers & the conditional jockeys who ride these horses out every day in all conditions. What I will accept from the argument however is the Grand National has to change - as a horse racing fan from local P2P’s to the Gold Cup - the National is a farce, the qualifying criteria is too simple, too many jockeys are lacking in experience, there’s too many horses & its ran over a mile too far. If I owned a race horse, I wouldnt entertain a runner in the National The jockey fefinitrly dont give a toss. They will just hop on their next pay cheque of the day and race the next race. And that guy sat laughing on a dead horsw really showed he cared hey. And hes just one who got caught out. How many more have that attitude, but never get outed" That was Elliot who is a trainer. That was disgraceful & he was rightfully banned for some time with his stables still not recovering. Trainers are probably different from others as they have to maintain a business head around this things (thats no excuse though) - as for jockeys thats a completely ridiculous statement, for sure they may not ride these horses out every day but they establish bonds with horses & its a teo way street. Yes, after a horse passes they’ll saddle up again but thats because *its literally their job & if they dont they dont get paid* but that doesnt mean they dont care. If you think the jockeys dont care look at one after they fall or unseat, the first thing any of them do is rush to their horse to check theyre okay. Like ive said, just because you may or may bot agree, please dont equate people to not caring about these animals & use that as a crutch on which to support your argument. | |||
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"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong?? Maybe not if the protesters are behaving badly(I don't watch telly so haven't seen them in order to comment on their terrorist status). However, I certainly don't support the disposability of horses' lives through the so called sport of steeplechasing. I'm not one of the people the protesters need to sway. I'm with them in principle, not necessarily with their tactics. Nevertheless, I'm still bemused by the illogical 'blood on their hands' rhetoric on here. Far too simplistic but all good emotive stuff! I think what the issue is here is that those who dont agree with horse racing arent entering the reality that by protesting they can well be adding to the issue rather than ‘saving’ horses. I think a lot of points are missed on the horses such as their stellar treatment & the fact that if horse racing was the cease then essentially youre wiping out an entire breed of an animal out, as these horses have been bred specifically to race & outside the sphere of racing or its associated practices these horses dont make for much use to anyone. Add in to that an assumption that those who tend to the horses dont actually care about them is so misguided, nobody is more upset when a horse dies than jta owners, stable hands, groomers & the conditional jockeys who ride these horses out every day in all conditions. What I will accept from the argument however is the Grand National has to change - as a horse racing fan from local P2P’s to the Gold Cup - the National is a farce, the qualifying criteria is too simple, too many jockeys are lacking in experience, there’s too many horses & its ran over a mile too far. If I owned a race horse, I wouldnt entertain a runner in the National The jockey fefinitrly dont give a toss. They will just hop on their next pay cheque of the day and race the next race. And that guy sat laughing on a dead horsw really showed he cared hey. And hes just one who got caught out. How many more have that attitude, but never get outed That was Elliot who is a trainer. That was disgraceful & he was rightfully banned for some time with his stables still not recovering. Trainers are probably different from others as they have to maintain a business head around this things (thats no excuse though) - as for jockeys thats a completely ridiculous statement, for sure they may not ride these horses out every day but they establish bonds with horses & its a teo way street. Yes, after a horse passes they’ll saddle up again but thats because *its literally their job & if they dont they dont get paid* but that doesnt mean they dont care. If you think the jockeys dont care look at one after they fall or unseat, the first thing any of them do is rush to their horse to check theyre okay. Like ive said, just because you may or may bot agree, please dont equate people to not caring about these animals & use that as a crutch on which to support your argument. " i beileve he got 9 month ban. You feel that is some time | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong?? Maybe not if the protesters are behaving badly(I don't watch telly so haven't seen them in order to comment on their terrorist status). However, I certainly don't support the disposability of horses' lives through the so called sport of steeplechasing. I'm not one of the people the protesters need to sway. I'm with them in principle, not necessarily with their tactics. Nevertheless, I'm still bemused by the illogical 'blood on their hands' rhetoric on here. Far too simplistic but all good emotive stuff! I think what the issue is here is that those who dont agree with horse racing arent entering the reality that by protesting they can well be adding to the issue rather than ‘saving’ horses. I think a lot of points are missed on the horses such as their stellar treatment & the fact that if horse racing was the cease then essentially youre wiping out an entire breed of an animal out, as these horses have been bred specifically to race & outside the sphere of racing or its associated practices these horses dont make for much use to anyone. Add in to that an assumption that those who tend to the horses dont actually care about them is so misguided, nobody is more upset when a horse dies than jta owners, stable hands, groomers & the conditional jockeys who ride these horses out every day in all conditions. What I will accept from the argument however is the Grand National has to change - as a horse racing fan from local P2P’s to the Gold Cup - the National is a farce, the qualifying criteria is too simple, too many jockeys are lacking in experience, there’s too many horses & its ran over a mile too far. If I owned a race horse, I wouldnt entertain a runner in the National The jockey fefinitrly dont give a toss. They will just hop on their next pay cheque of the day and race the next race. And that guy sat laughing on a dead horsw really showed he cared hey. And hes just one who got caught out. How many more have that attitude, but never get outed That was Elliot who is a trainer. That was disgraceful & he was rightfully banned for some time with his stables still not recovering. Trainers are probably different from others as they have to maintain a business head around this things (thats no excuse though) - as for jockeys thats a completely ridiculous statement, for sure they may not ride these horses out every day but they establish bonds with horses & its a teo way street. Yes, after a horse passes they’ll saddle up again but thats because *its literally their job & if they dont they dont get paid* but that doesnt mean they dont care. If you think the jockeys dont care look at one after they fall or unseat, the first thing any of them do is rush to their horse to check theyre okay. Like ive said, just because you may or may bot agree, please dont equate people to not caring about these animals & use that as a crutch on which to support your argument. i beileve he got 9 month ban. You feel that is some time" No, he should have been banned for longer but thanks to the ill faith argument youve misinterpreted my comment because I wasnt sure how long he served so wasnt willing to put a figure on it | |||
"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. " Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes | |||
"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes" This is why bad faith debate around the race produces no results btw. If its constructed more thoughtfully youd find a lot of racing fans - myself included - would agree that a 4m+ race is far too long a race & one of the things they could change about the race to potentially improve safety. However, dont dismiss a 15 minute delay so out of hand as it will have no doubt had a negative effect on the horses in terms of concentration & routine | |||
"Best get them out the way! Kreosote …good over fences. Dusty Carpet….never been beaten. Tank top…..not a great jumper though " | |||
"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes This is why bad faith debate around the race produces no results btw. If its constructed more thoughtfully youd find a lot of racing fans - myself included - would agree that a 4m+ race is far too long a race & one of the things they could change about the race to potentially improve safety. However, dont dismiss a 15 minute delay so out of hand as it will have no doubt had a negative effect on the horses in terms of concentration & routine " Even the owners said itd have no effect, due to being mature experienced animals. Used to variety of situations. What should happen, is any horse a certain length back should be pulled out. Running it full send with no hope proves they only want to say theyve completed the GN. even odds tell you whose likely to be a mile behind | |||
"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes" 
These horses go from 0 to 25 mph, they are not standing still calmly waiting to go. They bustle and jostle with each other because they absolutely love galloping. The over-dose of adrenaline is very often too much for the race horses to cope with and they drop too quickly and that is why the 14 minute delay, being worked up higher and higher was so damaging, too many false starts will have this effect as well. | |||
"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes This is why bad faith debate around the race produces no results btw. If its constructed more thoughtfully youd find a lot of racing fans - myself included - would agree that a 4m+ race is far too long a race & one of the things they could change about the race to potentially improve safety. However, dont dismiss a 15 minute delay so out of hand as it will have no doubt had a negative effect on the horses in terms of concentration & routine Even the owners said itd have no effect, due to being mature experienced animals. Used to variety of situations. What should happen, is any horse a certain length back should be pulled out. Running it full send with no hope proves they only want to say theyve completed the GN. even odds tell you whose likely to be a mile behind" Totally incorrect unfortunately. The owner of the horse that died attributed the fall to the delays in which the horse got worked up (said horse had never fallen in its career including 3x round Aintree) As for running them so far behind many horses are pulled up, those who arent (usually in the latter stages of the race) are done so under instruction, this is usually for ‘work’, to discover a horses limits or temprament as well as practice. Even in those cases if a jockey thinks a horse wont stay the trip safely they’ll PU | |||
"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes
These horses go from 0 to 25 mph, they are not standing still calmly waiting to go. They bustle and jostle with each other because they absolutely love galloping. The over-dose of adrenaline is very often too much for the race horses to cope with and they drop too quickly and that is why the 14 minute delay, being worked up higher and higher was so damaging, too many false starts will have this effect as well."I believe this was also a reason behind the starters going to a standing start after one false start all week. Even at Cheltenham a few weeks back the starters were quite generous with their trotting pace as to not hold the horses for longee than needed. | |||
"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes This is why bad faith debate around the race produces no results btw. If its constructed more thoughtfully youd find a lot of racing fans - myself included - would agree that a 4m+ race is far too long a race & one of the things they could change about the race to potentially improve safety. However, dont dismiss a 15 minute delay so out of hand as it will have no doubt had a negative effect on the horses in terms of concentration & routine Even the owners said itd have no effect, due to being mature experienced animals. Used to variety of situations. What should happen, is any horse a certain length back should be pulled out. Running it full send with no hope proves they only want to say theyve completed the GN. even odds tell you whose likely to be a mile behind Totally incorrect unfortunately. The owner of the horse that died attributed the fall to the delays in which the horse got worked up (said horse had never fallen in its career including 3x round Aintree) As for running them so far behind many horses are pulled up, those who arent (usually in the latter stages of the race) are done so under instruction, this is usually for ‘work’, to discover a horses limits or temprament as well as practice. Even in those cases if a jockey thinks a horse wont stay the trip safely they’ll PU" Well of course the owner not gonna take responsibility himself! When there's a convenient group to blame! | |||
"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes
These horses go from 0 to 25 mph, they are not standing still calmly waiting to go. They bustle and jostle with each other because they absolutely love galloping. The over-dose of adrenaline is very often too much for the race horses to cope with and they drop too quickly and that is why the 14 minute delay, being worked up higher and higher was so damaging, too many false starts will have this effect as well."What would they be doing if not on a track with a weasel on their back, and a bit hitting pressure points in their mouth. Would they be looking at each other nodding, to say lets race. Probably not. | |||
" These horses go from 0 to 25 mph, they are not standing still calmly waiting to go. " do you think we will be getting electric horses any time soon? They could do 0-60 and carry a set of jumper leads. | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong??" Nobody said they were. It was a statement about the incident in context to the discussion. If you’re feeling like the statement applies to you then that’s on you. I’m all for people’s right to protest peacefully. As soon as protesters resort to anything like yesterday’s scenes they’ve completely lost any credibility. | |||
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"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes
These horses go from 0 to 25 mph, they are not standing still calmly waiting to go. They bustle and jostle with each other because they absolutely love galloping. The over-dose of adrenaline is very often too much for the race horses to cope with and they drop too quickly and that is why the 14 minute delay, being worked up higher and higher was so damaging, too many false starts will have this effect as well.
What would they be doing if not on a track with a weasel on their back, and a bit hitting pressure points in their mouth. Would they be looking at each other nodding, to say lets race. Probably not. "Actually its likely they would. Horses are hard wired to run & in the wild actually run in packs for miles upon miles. Ive noticed one recurring theme with your arguments & its mainly born from either ignorance or complete misinformation. If you want to have a progressive or constructive discussion, please dont form your opinions on half truths | |||
"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes
These horses go from 0 to 25 mph, they are not standing still calmly waiting to go. They bustle and jostle with each other because they absolutely love galloping. The over-dose of adrenaline is very often too much for the race horses to cope with and they drop too quickly and that is why the 14 minute delay, being worked up higher and higher was so damaging, too many false starts will have this effect as well.
What would they be doing if not on a track with a weasel on their back, and a bit hitting pressure points in their mouth. Would they be looking at each other nodding, to say lets race. Probably not. "I live in the New Forest, and believe me - the horses and ponies race and chase each other around all the time. They love a good gallop. The donkeys watch them with a bemused look on their faces.
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"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes
These horses go from 0 to 25 mph, they are not standing still calmly waiting to go. They bustle and jostle with each other because they absolutely love galloping. The over-dose of adrenaline is very often too much for the race horses to cope with and they drop too quickly and that is why the 14 minute delay, being worked up higher and higher was so damaging, too many false starts will have this effect as well.
What would they be doing if not on a track with a weasel on their back, and a bit hitting pressure points in their mouth. Would they be looking at each other nodding, to say lets race. Probably not.
Actually its likely they would. Horses are hard wired to run & in the wild actually run in packs for miles upon miles. Ive noticed one recurring theme with your arguments & its mainly born from either ignorance or complete misinformation. If you want to have a progressive or constructive discussion, please dont form your opinions on half truths"All I see in his comments are caring and compassion unlike alot of others here! Just greed and uncaring! | |||
"Terrorism is terrorism no matter what you dress it up as. A group of people that disagree with others way of life and use intimidation, criminal damage and violence to try and force their views on others. Peaceful protest is perfectly acceptable. Terrorism isn’t. Anyone defending the actions of yesterdays terrorists at aintree needs to have a good hard look at their beliefs. I cant see the people on this thread defending these protesters?? Correct me if I'm wrong?? Nobody said they were. It was a statement about the incident in context to the discussion. If you’re feeling like the statement applies to you then that’s on you. I’m all for people’s right to protest peacefully. As soon as protesters resort to anything like yesterday’s scenes they’ve completely lost any credibility. " I beg to differ! | |||
"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes
These horses go from 0 to 25 mph, they are not standing still calmly waiting to go. They bustle and jostle with each other because they absolutely love galloping. The over-dose of adrenaline is very often too much for the race horses to cope with and they drop too quickly and that is why the 14 minute delay, being worked up higher and higher was so damaging, too many false starts will have this effect as well.
What would they be doing if not on a track with a weasel on their back, and a bit hitting pressure points in their mouth. Would they be looking at each other nodding, to say lets race. Probably not.
I live in the New Forest, and believe me - the horses and ponies race and chase each other around all the time. They love a good gallop. The donkeys watch them with a bemused look on their faces.
Bess x"Theres a difference between play gallop for a few mins here and there, all animals do it, but not all animals are pushed to tgeir absolute limit by some weasel sat on top. | |||
"Any tipsters on here with any good winner/ew bets to share "Death race to many horses. You want to look at past winners, Red Rum (buried at Aintree finish post) Desert Orchid, both big strapping horses built to easily get over those big fences, with enough stamina to keep galloping. Horses are not naturally jumpers, they have to learn how to. Many owners put the horse in the race knowing it will finish them off so they can collect the insurance money. It’s a truly disgusting race. It’s time Joe Pubic realised that | |||
"... but not all animals are pushed to tgeir absolute limit by some weasel sat on top." Like motor bikes? Sorry, couldn't miss a banter opportunity as good as that one! | |||
"... but not all animals are pushed to tgeir absolute limit by some weasel sat on top. Like motor bikes? Sorry, couldn't miss a banter opportunity as good as that one!" Hardly the same. A motorcycle is a machine, if you burst the engine it can be fixed. If you burst a horse, he could be fixed but he’d never race again. Racing is about breeding the best animals to break them while they are still young… too young, horses skeletons don’t fuse enough for light weight riders until they are around 4 years old. 6 years for full work training, some breeds aren’t at their working best til they are 7, 8, or 9 years old. Thoroughbreds are raced from a year onwards - still babies, still growing, still developing. The flat racing happens all year round, it may not go forward if the ground is frozen, but it still goes ahead if the ground is soggy, this can cause injuries as the horses can’t get enough traction, this causes check ligaments and pulled tendons even broken bones as they are not strong enough as babies. | |||
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"Horses are not naturally jumpers, they have to learn how to. Many owners put the horse in the race knowing it will finish them off so they can collect the insurance money. It’s a truly disgusting race. It’s time Joe Pubic realised that" I don't think this is true at all, what evidence do you have that this happens? I would imagine the insurance premium of a horse, racing in the national would be extremely expensive. Simply entering a horse into the race in the hope it dies for a payout sounds stupid. | |||
"Bi ker boy tell me how did Gavin get injured in the GN? Was it from the whip, a tongue tie or a fence? No it was the protesters throwing a ladder over the security fence and the ladder put a big nasty cut in the horses leg. Did that result in a broken neck, leg, or bolt being put in its skull though. Best thing ive heard is the horses coukd get exhausted by a 14 minute delay having to walk around, but it was ok to run them full send for 9 minutes
These horses go from 0 to 25 mph, they are not standing still calmly waiting to go. They bustle and jostle with each other because they absolutely love galloping. The over-dose of adrenaline is very often too much for the race horses to cope with and they drop too quickly and that is why the 14 minute delay, being worked up higher and higher was so damaging, too many false starts will have this effect as well."Maybe they shouldn't have gone ahead with the race then? | |||
"Horses are not naturally jumpers, they have to learn how to. Many owners put the horse in the race knowing it will finish them off so they can collect the insurance money. It’s a truly disgusting race. It’s time Joe Pubic realised that I don't think this is true at all, what evidence do you have that this happens? I would imagine the insurance premium of a horse, racing in the national would be extremely expensive. Simply entering a horse into the race in the hope it dies for a payout sounds stupid." Well it might sound stupid to you, but it’s true. There are 40 horses in the GD yet there is a limit on all other NH races, why do you think that is? I’ve been involved with horses for years. It is well known that if a horse is loosing its worth trainers and owners will put it into a race to get their last few pennies from it and either PTS after, or on the field if there’s an accident or maybe even sell it to rehab so it can become a riding horse. I know people in the industry and they think it’s a horrible race | |||
"Horses are not naturally jumpers, they have to learn how to. Many owners put the horse in the race knowing it will finish them off so they can collect the insurance money. It’s a truly disgusting race. It’s time Joe Pubic realised that I don't think this is true at all, what evidence do you have that this happens? I would imagine the insurance premium of a horse, racing in the national would be extremely expensive. Simply entering a horse into the race in the hope it dies for a payout sounds stupid. Well it might sound stupid to you, but it’s true. There are 40 horses in the GD yet there is a limit on all other NH races, why do you think that is? I’ve been involved with horses for years. It is well known that if a horse is loosing its worth trainers and owners will put it into a race to get their last few pennies from it and either PTS after, or on the field if there’s an accident or maybe even sell it to rehab so it can become a riding horse. I know people in the industry and they think it’s a horrible race " Paying to enter a horse into a horse race in the "hope" it dies which you first said, sounds like hearsay or urban myth. | |||
"Horses are not naturally jumpers, they have to learn how to. Many owners put the horse in the race knowing it will finish them off so they can collect the insurance money. It’s a truly disgusting race. It’s time Joe Pubic realised that I don't think this is true at all, what evidence do you have that this happens? I would imagine the insurance premium of a horse, racing in the national would be extremely expensive. Simply entering a horse into the race in the hope it dies for a payout sounds stupid. Well it might sound stupid to you, but it’s true. There are 40 horses in the GD yet there is a limit on all other NH races, why do you think that is? I’ve been involved with horses for years. It is well known that if a horse is loosing its worth trainers and owners will put it into a race to get their last few pennies from it and either PTS after, or on the field if there’s an accident or maybe even sell it to rehab so it can become a riding horse. I know people in the industry and they think it’s a horrible race " Or sell it to Tesco's | |||
"Horses are not naturally jumpers, they have to learn how to. Many owners put the horse in the race knowing it will finish them off so they can collect the insurance money. It’s a truly disgusting race. It’s time Joe Pubic realised that I don't think this is true at all, what evidence do you have that this happens? I would imagine the insurance premium of a horse, racing in the national would be extremely expensive. Simply entering a horse into the race in the hope it dies for a payout sounds stupid. Well it might sound stupid to you, but it’s true. There are 40 horses in the GD yet there is a limit on all other NH races, why do you think that is? I’ve been involved with horses for years. It is well known that if a horse is loosing its worth trainers and owners will put it into a race to get their last few pennies from it and either PTS after, or on the field if there’s an accident or maybe even sell it to rehab so it can become a riding horse. I know people in the industry and they think it’s a horrible race Or sell it to Tesco's " That’s not funny, and it wasn’t Tesco, it was Findus | |||
"Horses are not naturally jumpers, they have to learn how to. Many owners put the horse in the race knowing it will finish them off so they can collect the insurance money. It’s a truly disgusting race. It’s time Joe Pubic realised that I don't think this is true at all, what evidence do you have that this happens? I would imagine the insurance premium of a horse, racing in the national would be extremely expensive. Simply entering a horse into the race in the hope it dies for a payout sounds stupid. Well it might sound stupid to you, but it’s true. There are 40 horses in the GD yet there is a limit on all other NH races, why do you think that is? I’ve been involved with horses for years. It is well known that if a horse is loosing its worth trainers and owners will put it into a race to get their last few pennies from it and either PTS after, or on the field if there’s an accident or maybe even sell it to rehab so it can become a riding horse. I know people in the industry and they think it’s a horrible race Paying to enter a horse into a horse race in the "hope" it dies which you first said, sounds like hearsay or urban myth." Hearsay, urban myth or absolute bol locks I'd say the latter. | |||
"Horses are not naturally jumpers, they have to learn how to. Many owners put the horse in the race knowing it will finish them off so they can collect the insurance money. It’s a truly disgusting race. It’s time Joe Pubic realised that I don't think this is true at all, what evidence do you have that this happens? I would imagine the insurance premium of a horse, racing in the national would be extremely expensive. Simply entering a horse into the race in the hope it dies for a payout sounds stupid. Well it might sound stupid to you, but it’s true. There are 40 horses in the GD yet there is a limit on all other NH races, why do you think that is? I’ve been involved with horses for years. It is well known that if a horse is loosing its worth trainers and owners will put it into a race to get their last few pennies from it and either PTS after, or on the field if there’s an accident or maybe even sell it to rehab so it can become a riding horse. I know people in the industry and they think it’s a horrible race Or sell it to Tesco's That’s not funny, and it wasn’t Tesco, it was Findus " Not funny? It's hilarious | |||
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"Kitty’s Light was the winner and I had the winner for the second National in a row." (trumpet) | |||
"So today was the Scottish Grand National sadly a horse had to be put down in a previous race but no fatalities in the Scottish Grand National which had 3 less fences to jump, about 500 metres less to run and although 23 runners were to take part in the end it was 18 instead of 40. The animal rights protesters were out again and the race was delayed by a few minutes.Kitty’s Light was the winner and I had the winner for the second National in a row. I wonder if this National will make the news like last week National " No there wasn't much coverage of it tbh. | |||
"So today was the Scottish Grand National sadly a horse had to be put down in a previous race but no fatalities in the Scottish Grand National which had 3 less fences to jump, about 500 metres less to run and although 23 runners were to take part in the end it was 18 instead of 40. The animal rights protesters were out again and the race was delayed by a few minutes.Kitty’s Light was the winner and I had the winner for the second National in a row. I wonder if this National will make the news like last week National No there wasn't much coverage of it tbh. " There really isn’t a lot of coverage of horse racing as it’s not really a sport people can identify with or take part in. | |||
