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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So are there many people on Fab who are actually more interested in dating and a potential relationship or would most people say they just want some nsa fun?
Personally I came on fab looking to meet someone ideally for dating or a relationship which I’m struggling to find as I found people on ‘normal’ dating sites were not too receptive to sexual preferences/kink etc
Would love to hear others thoughts and particularly from likeminded individuals who are interested in a relationship off fab ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago
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I'm not .I actually met my partner on here 7.5 yeara ago though, neither of us were initially looking for more.
Ive seen loads of people get together with someone on fan and on the forums too.so i think many are open to more than fun. |
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There’s two similar threads running here, so please forgive the cop and paste, OP.
I am on some online dating apps. For me, things get serious with someone once it becomes sexual. It’s at that point I hide my fab profile and concentrate on the relationship. I don’t share my fab experiences with them unless I sense it will be taken well.
If I have to choose, a ‘normal’ relationship is more important to me. But, ideally, I’d like to find someone who would be open to the swinging lifestyle. Meeting and dating someone I meet on Fab would be great. Interested parties will find a link to the application form at the bottom of this page.
*Please bear in mind that not all applicants will get an interview. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother."
That’s interesting that I found it to be the opposite. I’m on Badoo and PoF and find it difficult to meet someone who’s is sexually openminded or partial to more than vanilla.. more difficult to open a mature dialogue about sex and preferences etc as they tend to run s mile thinking your a perv |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother.
That’s interesting that I found it to be the opposite. I’m on Badoo and PoF and find it difficult to meet someone who’s is sexually openminded or partial to more than vanilla.. more difficult to open a mature dialogue about sex and preferences etc as they tend to run s mile thinking your a perv "
Perhaps try Feeld and OKC. Far more likely to meet open minded individuals there. |
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother.
That’s interesting that I found it to be the opposite. I’m on Badoo and PoF and find it difficult to meet someone who’s is sexually openminded or partial to more than vanilla.. more difficult to open a mature dialogue about sex and preferences etc as they tend to run s mile thinking your a perv "
I’m not surprised! How many women have you encountered that really really like football? And think how popular football is compared to swinging. It’s a niche lifestyle. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Here a person knows straight away what the other person wants sexually , on dating sites a person doesn't...being here skips a lot of stuff."
Yes that’s quite true to an extent but only downside is people on fab not looking for a relationship, well most or not many I’ve come across anyway.
Would be nice to have a dating section or are on fab I think |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother.
That’s interesting that I found it to be the opposite. I’m on Badoo and PoF and find it difficult to meet someone who’s is sexually openminded or partial to more than vanilla.. more difficult to open a mature dialogue about sex and preferences etc as they tend to run s mile thinking your a perv
I’m not surprised! How many women have you encountered that really really like football? And think how popular football is compared to swinging. It’s a niche lifestyle."
I don't think I'm even a swinger and I prefer that to bloody football ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother.
That’s interesting that I found it to be the opposite. I’m on Badoo and PoF and find it difficult to meet someone who’s is sexually openminded or partial to more than vanilla.. more difficult to open a mature dialogue about sex and preferences etc as they tend to run s mile thinking your a perv "
Interesting but we travelling in parallel universes my friend.
I never initiate sex talk on dating apps because it's not a criteria I'm looking for in a partner but they very quickly bring it up. I find a lot of them have come from repressed relationships so have lot of pent up sexual desire. Actually reckon I'm more likely to find a partner on here than a dating site, it's totally topsy turvy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I much prefer fab to dating sites.
I do better here and the men are also much more interesting.
I don't think I'm really seeking "proper " relationship anymore, much as I'm filled with romantic nations, I don't think those on their own are enough.
In general the men I have met here over the years have all been far more respectful than the ones on dating sites .
I realise I'm the annoying non swinger type but I don't think I'm spoiling anyone else's fun by being here and seeking out my own.. |
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother.
That’s interesting that I found it to be the opposite. I’m on Badoo and PoF and find it difficult to meet someone who’s is sexually openminded or partial to more than vanilla.. more difficult to open a mature dialogue about sex and preferences etc as they tend to run s mile thinking your a perv
I’m not surprised! How many women have you encountered that really really like football? And think how popular football is compared to swinging. It’s a niche lifestyle.
I don't think I'm even a swinger and I prefer that to bloody football "
Well, as long as you’re not kicking balls in meets we’re safe! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother.
That’s interesting that I found it to be the opposite. I’m on Badoo and PoF and find it difficult to meet someone who’s is sexually openminded or partial to more than vanilla.. more difficult to open a mature dialogue about sex and preferences etc as they tend to run s mile thinking your a perv
Interesting but we travelling in parallel universes my friend.
I never initiate sex talk on dating apps because it's not a criteria I'm looking for in a partner but they very quickly bring it up. I find a lot of them have come from repressed relationships so have lot of pent up sexual desire. Actually reckon I'm more likely to find a partner on here than a dating site, it's totally topsy turvy "
Sorry maybe i didn’t write clearly, I don't initiate sex talk on dating sites as I’m not there for that as a priority I’m more interested in establishing some kind of compatibility and mutual interest ms etc but I was merely referring to as and when some discussion about intimacy comes up and preferences etc
Well if I did find a parent on here that would be fantastic.. fingers crossed |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I like that dating sites like tinder now have the ENM, swinging and poly options to select from. That's made it a lot less hassle."
Does it? That’s good to know I may have to try tinder. I’m on Badoo and PoF they don’t have any questions like that to add to preferences etc |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Totally agree with you , been on pof and a case of u want to fuck at least on here u know what it's all about "
Yes that’s true to some as we can get straight to the point on fab whereas on dating sites you can’t talk about stuff like that until you have established some kind of rapport or compatibility ![](/icons/s/sad.gif) |
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother.
That’s interesting that I found it to be the opposite. I’m on Badoo and PoF and find it difficult to meet someone who’s is sexually openminded or partial to more than vanilla.. more difficult to open a mature dialogue about sex and preferences etc as they tend to run s mile thinking your a perv
Interesting but we travelling in parallel universes my friend.
I never initiate sex talk on dating apps because it's not a criteria I'm looking for in a partner but they very quickly bring it up. I find a lot of them have come from repressed relationships so have lot of pent up sexual desire. Actually reckon I'm more likely to find a partner on here than a dating site, it's totally topsy turvy
Sorry maybe i didn’t write clearly, I don't initiate sex talk on dating sites as I’m not there for that as a priority I’m more interested in establishing some kind of compatibility and mutual interest ms etc but I was merely referring to as and when some discussion about intimacy comes up and preferences etc
Well if I did find a parent on here that would be fantastic.. fingers crossed "
I got what you meant just saying in my experience they quickly reveal that they want to be swinging from the chandeliers. |
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Perhaps try Feeld and OKC. Far more likely to meet open minded individuals there. "
I haven't tried Feeld, yet, but OKC is full of fakes and scammers, plus the search location works really bizarrely. At least FAB is pretty good in those respects, they are rather important things for a site. Maybe I'll try Feeld later...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm currently in a 'I don't want another relationship' after a break up where I was in one.
In time that will calm down I'm sure.
But besides that I'm here because I realise a relationship is bloody difficult for me for the foreseeable and would mean the other person making more sacrifices than me. And I can't ask someone else to make those sacrifices as I feel its shitty and one sided and affects them a hell of a lot more than me. Plus given the age range I would go for it makes it harder. Its based purely on my circumstances and isn't going to change for a while yet.
This has been completely reinforced by the relationship I've just had. So I'm back to being a ruthless ice queen on the whole relationship thing.
I want friends that I can hang out with as well as get naked with. It's then 50/50 on effort, time and any sacrifices made.
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Perhaps try Feeld and OKC. Far more likely to meet open minded individuals there.
I haven't tried Feeld, yet, but OKC is full of fakes and scammers, plus the search location works really bizarrely. At least FAB is pretty good in those respects, they are rather important things for a site. Maybe I'll try Feeld later...
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Agree on OKC, weird app that doesn’t seem to work very well. I’ve binned it now. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Most on here are on dating sites too looking for an easy hook up
Its hard to find someone who's actually interested in dating anymore "
I second that...
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother.
That’s interesting that I found it to be the opposite. I’m on Badoo and PoF and find it difficult to meet someone who’s is sexually openminded or partial to more than vanilla.. more difficult to open a mature dialogue about sex and preferences etc as they tend to run s mile thinking your a perv
Interesting but we travelling in parallel universes my friend.
I never initiate sex talk on dating apps because it's not a criteria I'm looking for in a partner but they very quickly bring it up. I find a lot of them have come from repressed relationships so have lot of pent up sexual desire. Actually reckon I'm more likely to find a partner on here than a dating site, it's totally topsy turvy
Sorry maybe i didn’t write clearly, I don't initiate sex talk on dating sites as I’m not there for that as a priority I’m more interested in establishing some kind of compatibility and mutual interest ms etc but I was merely referring to as and when some discussion about intimacy comes up and preferences etc
Well if I did find a parent on here that would be fantastic.. fingers crossed
I got what you meant just saying in my experience they quickly reveal that they want to be swinging from the chandeliers."
Ah well then you’ve been lucky on the dating sites brother lol I need someone with fab open-mindedness who’s wanting to date with a view to something serious/long term ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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I was lucky to find my long term fwb on fab. I think it’s perfect although as hard as finding hens teeth to meet someone likeminded dating from the off here you can. No need to suppress your true sexual intentions. |
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I think I may have been lucky finding someone who actually wants to have a relationship on another site. There's several other issues that may mean it's not going to work.
We are taking openly about that though so it's not poisoning the well.
But yeah I think a lot of people are either not interested in or avoiding relationships. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm open to dating or nsa on here. I don't take it seriously and people I meet are just like mates I fuck (unless we decide to date etc) which has only happened twice in 10 years and didn't enjoy it haha! But doesn't put me off.
I'm on dating apps too; if I meet someone I like then I come off fab.
For me dating is a slow burner and difficult to be more open about what I am into sexually (even though it shouldn't be ) fab is non judgemental. |
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"I'm open to dating or nsa on here. I don't take it seriously and people I meet are just like mates I fuck (unless we decide to date etc) which has only happened twice in 10 years and didn't enjoy it haha! But doesn't put me off.
I'm on dating apps too; if I meet someone I like then I come off fab.
For me dating is a slow burner and difficult to be more open about what I am into sexually (even though it shouldn't be ) fab is non judgemental."
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"I'm open to dating or nsa on here. I don't take it seriously and people I meet are just like mates I fuck (unless we decide to date etc) which has only happened twice in 10 years and didn't enjoy it haha! But doesn't put me off.
I'm on dating apps too; if I meet someone I like then I come off fab.
For me dating is a slow burner and difficult to be more open about what I am into sexually (even though it shouldn't be ) fab is non judgemental.
Feeld "
I'm on it. Only seem to attract poly people already partnered (not what I'd like dating wise) x |
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"I'm open to dating or nsa on here. I don't take it seriously and people I meet are just like mates I fuck (unless we decide to date etc) which has only happened twice in 10 years and didn't enjoy it haha! But doesn't put me off.
I'm on dating apps too; if I meet someone I like then I come off fab.
For me dating is a slow burner and difficult to be more open about what I am into sexually (even though it shouldn't be ) fab is non judgemental.
Feeld
I'm on it. Only seem to attract poly people already partnered (not what I'd like dating wise) x"
I seem to attract single women who are only into NSA on there ![](/icons/s/eek.gif) |
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"I'm open to dating or nsa on here. I don't take it seriously and people I meet are just like mates I fuck (unless we decide to date etc) which has only happened twice in 10 years and didn't enjoy it haha! But doesn't put me off.
I'm on dating apps too; if I meet someone I like then I come off fab.
For me dating is a slow burner and difficult to be more open about what I am into sexually (even though it shouldn't be ) fab is non judgemental.
Feeld
I'm on it. Only seem to attract poly people already partnered (not what I'd like dating wise) x
I seem to attract single women who are only into NSA on there "
Or in the process of moving countries! |
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"I'm open to dating or nsa on here. I don't take it seriously and people I meet are just like mates I fuck (unless we decide to date etc) which has only happened twice in 10 years and didn't enjoy it haha! But doesn't put me off.
I'm on dating apps too; if I meet someone I like then I come off fab.
For me dating is a slow burner and difficult to be more open about what I am into sexually (even though it shouldn't be ) fab is non judgemental.
Feeld
I'm on it. Only seem to attract poly people already partnered (not what I'd like dating wise) x
I seem to attract single women who are only into NSA on there
Or in the process of moving countries!"
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"I'm open to dating or nsa on here. I don't take it seriously and people I meet are just like mates I fuck (unless we decide to date etc) which has only happened twice in 10 years and didn't enjoy it haha! But doesn't put me off.
I'm on dating apps too; if I meet someone I like then I come off fab.
For me dating is a slow burner and difficult to be more open about what I am into sexually (even though it shouldn't be ) fab is non judgemental.
Feeld
I'm on it. Only seem to attract poly people already partnered (not what I'd like dating wise) x
I seem to attract single women who are only into NSA on there
Or in the process of moving countries!
I don't think it's a great app tbh. "
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"I'm open to dating or nsa on here. I don't take it seriously and people I meet are just like mates I fuck (unless we decide to date etc) which has only happened twice in 10 years and didn't enjoy it haha! But doesn't put me off.
I'm on dating apps too; if I meet someone I like then I come off fab.
For me dating is a slow burner and difficult to be more open about what I am into sexually (even though it shouldn't be ) fab is non judgemental.
Feeld
I'm on it. Only seem to attract poly people already partnered (not what I'd like dating wise) x
I seem to attract single women who are only into NSA on there
Or in the process of moving countries!
I don't think it's a great app tbh.
Just move down to Liverpool "
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother.
I second that. "
I third it (if nobody else already has).
Dating sites are far more productive. People are usually looking for someone of the opposite sex for sex, not another try at marriage.
I am on fab for the forum and to keep in touch with the dwindling number of Eureka loyalists.
I have met the odd one or two on dating sites who just want keyboard friends and others who aren't going to part up until they get a diamond ring on their finger, but usually even a first date is productive if the spark is there. |
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By *amierebelMan
over a year ago
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother.
I second that.
I third it (if nobody else already has).
Dating sites are far more productive. People are usually looking for someone of the opposite sex for sex, not another try at marriage.
I am on fab for the forum and to keep in touch with the dwindling number of Eureka loyalists.
I have met the odd one or two on dating sites who just want keyboard friends and others who aren't going to part up until they get a diamond ring on their finger, but usually even a first date is productive if the spark is there."
Fourthed it. Normal dating sites are easy to hook up on as in comparison to fab itself, the forums here are great though
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"I'm open to dating or nsa on here. I don't take it seriously and people I meet are just like mates I fuck (unless we decide to date etc) which has only happened twice in 10 years and didn't enjoy it haha! But doesn't put me off.
I'm on dating apps too; if I meet someone I like then I come off fab.
For me dating is a slow burner and difficult to be more open about what I am into sexually (even though it shouldn't be ) fab is non judgemental."
I would dispute Fab being non judgemental, found quite a few are very judgemental! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother.
That’s interesting that I found it to be the opposite. I’m on Badoo and PoF and find it difficult to meet someone who’s is sexually openminded or partial to more than vanilla.. more difficult to open a mature dialogue about sex and preferences etc as they tend to run s mile thinking your a perv
I’m not surprised! How many women have you encountered that really really like football? And think how popular football is compared to swinging. It’s a niche lifestyle.
I don't think I'm even a swinger and I prefer that to bloody football
Well, as long as you’re not kicking balls in meets we’re safe!"
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By (user no longer on site)
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Perhaps try Feeld and OKC. Far more likely to meet open minded individuals there.
I haven't tried Feeld, yet, but OKC is full of fakes and scammers, plus the search location works really bizarrely. At least FAB is pretty good in those respects, they are rather important things for a site. Maybe I'll try Feeld later...
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To be fair I gave up on OKC a while ago, but it does depend on your area. Same with Feeld. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm open to dating a relationships from Fab, not a member of any dating apps though as they're just so tiresome, disconnected, fake, sure people try to sell themselves on Fab too but I feel the general attitude is a lot more relaxed, open and honest.
I did find myself in a relationship from Fab last summer, which came about as it was stated in my profile at the time, she saw what I was looking for, liked me, then sent a wink and that was that.
I think if I try looking for a relationship with someone I meet online, it would need to be on Fab, as it's pretty clear that we are here for sex, we value sex highly as a part of my life, and regular sex in a relationship with like-minded people is the glue to keep it going, especially when the sex is the most connected and intimate you've ever had. |
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I’m not surprised! How many women have you encountered that really really like football? And think how popular football is compared to swinging. It’s a niche lifestyle.
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I now realise why I do so well on dating sites.
It's because I don't like football! |
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"I found opposite. Dating sites were randy buggers. FAB is the least sexist site of them all oddly enough. If it wasn't for the forum I wouldn't bother."
Haha I concur! Which would u say is the randiest site? Haha |
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"So are there many people on Fab who are actually more interested in dating and a potential relationship or would most people say they just want some nsa fun?
Personally I came on fab looking to meet someone ideally for dating or a relationship which I’m struggling to find as I found people on ‘normal’ dating sites were not too receptive to sexual preferences/kink etc
Would love to hear others thoughts and particularly from likeminded individuals who are interested in a relationship off fab "
This is what i would like too, the fub of the lifestyle with a partner in crime |
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By *TG3Man
over a year ago
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"So are there many people on Fab who are actually more interested in dating and a potential relationship or would most people say they just want some nsa fun?
Personally I came on fab looking to meet someone ideally for dating or a relationship which I’m struggling to find as I found people on ‘normal’ dating sites were not too receptive to sexual preferences/kink etc
Would love to hear others thoughts and particularly from likeminded individuals who are interested in a relationship off fab " its the same difference, sex forms the basis of any relationship so if you meet somebody you like the potential is always there ![](/icons/s/2/halo.gif) |
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"I've found ppl on dating sites especially the free ones full of ppl just wanting sex, tbh these days there isn't much difference between them n fab"
That's why dating sites work so well.
Fab, on the other hand is full of blokes pretending to be couples or blokes pretending that their wife/GF (who is blissfully unaware that the bloke is on fab) is up for a threesome but, in practice, won't be available but he is happy to suck cock.
No such problems on dating sites. Just good old uncomplicated nookie, often on a first date if the chemistry is right. No need even to pretend that you love giving oral totally selflessly without asking for for a shag in return. On dating sites you get the shag first! |
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"Yes same. I get plenty of matches on dating sites but no where near on here though unfortunately
Was that for dating or casual hook ups?"
Well, everyone pretends it's dating but, in reality, why meet someone of the opposite sex if sex isn't the motivation? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Gave up on dating sites and dating generally a long time ago.
If you are not careful, the next step is giving up on life!"
It’s not giving up on life, it’s realising one isn’t attractive to women and being honest enough in not having much to offer a relationship. |
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"So are there many people on Fab who are actually more interested in dating and a potential relationship or would most people say they just want some nsa fun?
Personally I came on fab looking to meet someone ideally for dating or a relationship which I’m struggling to find as I found people on ‘normal’ dating sites were not too receptive to sexual preferences/kink etc
Would love to hear others thoughts and particularly from likeminded individuals who are interested in a relationship off fab "
I am open to dating/relationship
But not a swinging relationship..
With Fab you know sex talk isn't taboo to chat about..after all sex can be funny
As for dating sites a lot of the guys are looking for sex despite saying they want a relationship so I point them towards Fab.
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I find as a single male you're more likely to find a shag off dating sites , that's how I've been finding it but with fab you get the forums which I like and you can keep things private |
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My first dating site was fitness singles where I met my partner of now almost 15 years.
However fitness singles was very interesting. Must have went on about 30 dates in total, some where just regularly people like me who went to the gym. But some where so extreme that went nuts when I ordered a burger and a beer for dinner and some had no interest in fitness just wanted to have sex with bodybuilders (hehe ill take that) |
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"….
Personally I came on fab looking to meet someone ideally for dating or a relationship which I’m struggling to find as I found people on ‘normal’ dating sites were not too receptive to sexual preferences/kink etc
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Personally, I find people are normally receptive to anything most things if they like you. And let’s consider your talking to a stranger…. And there’s the problem I’ve found.
On here it’s straight up kink, even meeting for just sex (and nothing more) could be a kink.
Dating sites are filled with people who don’t know wtf they want. Some do, most won’t even tell you. |
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"I'm currently in a 'I don't want another relationship' after a break up where I was in one.
In time that will calm down I'm sure.
But besides that I'm here because I realise a relationship is bloody difficult for me for the foreseeable and would mean the other person making more sacrifices than me. And I can't ask someone else to make those sacrifices as I feel its shitty and one sided and affects them a hell of a lot more than me. Plus given the age range I would go for it makes it harder. Its based purely on my circumstances and isn't going to change for a while yet.
This has been completely reinforced by the relationship I've just had. So I'm back to being a ruthless ice queen on the whole relationship thing.
I want friends that I can hang out with as well as get naked with. It's then 50/50 on effort, time and any sacrifices made.
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Being with someone and then it goes south is very very difficult, absolutely, here as you say is 50/50 , both know why there here ..but if a person is with the wrong person it's some waste of time..it really really is.
PS...you're not an Ice Queen , not by any stretch of the imagination..you're just being real and practical and saying it as you feel. |
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"Dating sites are full of guys that lie and tell you anything just to get sex.
At least on here guys are honest that all they want is sex.
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"Dating sites are full of guys that lie and tell you anything just to get sex.
At least on here guys are honest that all they want is sex.
This!"
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Dating sites are horrible to those that are too shy for what they're all about, here everyone knows what everyone else wants or is into from the start so if they want to meet up and then decide they like each other enough to fuck they they do , a lot of early stuff is bypassed here. |
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