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over a year ago
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School is not the place. It’s confusing enough for adults let alone children. I’d rather see education from an early age on positive gender models straight and gay to start addressing toxic masculinity/femininity. |
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"School is not the place. It’s confusing enough for adults let alone children. I’d rather see education from an early age on positive gender models straight and gay to start addressing toxic masculinity/femininity. "
Yes. Along with what consent means, drilled home over and over and over in as many different ways as is humanly possible. |
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"School is not the place. It’s confusing enough for adults let alone children. I’d rather see education from an early age on positive gender models straight and gay to start addressing toxic masculinity/femininity.
Yes. Along with what consent means, drilled home over and over and over in as many different ways as is humanly possible."
The consent thing is to be fair. |
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"What’s everyone’s thoughts on trans being spoke about in school what age is too young
Why do they need to talk about it in schools? What would they talk about? "
Presumably they'll promote an understanding and tolerant viewpoint |
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By *rder66Man
over a year ago
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Until recently, I was a secondary teacher and the whole school system is shite.
Some school are full of racism, sexism and full of misogynistic behavour. There is behavoural issues from students, lack of funding for school and to much pressure on Maths and English subjects.
The expressive arts subjects are the first to go and children are losing the ability to learn how to express themselves.
It's not just about sitting in a class being told about lifestyles and cultures, its also about kids being able to learn about themselve and also questions ideas, lifestyle and cultures, possitive and negative and to do this in a safe enviroment.
If kids can't learn about themselves, there own feeling and emotions and have these challenged in a safe space then they can't truely understand other people, from an emotional perspective.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"School is not the place. It’s confusing enough for adults let alone children. I’d rather see education from an early age on positive gender models straight and gay to start addressing toxic masculinity/femininity. "
I think you've pretty much nailed it with your comment!
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By (user no longer on site)
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My daughter is 9. She has a friend at school (also 9) who identifies as a boy. He was getting bullied relentlessly at school, every single day until her class was sat down and learned a little about it. Now the kids understand it a bit more than they used to, he can go to school like every other child. It just depends on the how much is taught and at what age. I think kids should have a basic understanding of gender and different sexualities by a certain age and of course as mentioned above consent. |
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I discussed the subject with my eldest pair after we saw a rainbow flag outside the fire station. They had no problem understanding the idea aged 7 and 10. They know that mummy has a girl cousin who was born a boy and a boy cousin who was born a girl. I have no issues with them discussing this at school. |
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"I discussed the subject with my eldest pair after we saw a rainbow flag outside the fire station. They had no problem understanding the idea aged 7 and 10. They know that mummy has a girl cousin who was born a boy and a boy cousin who was born a girl. I have no issues with them discussing this at school. "
Thank you for sharing xxx  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What’s everyone’s thoughts on trans being spoke about in school what age is too young"
It is talked about in schools constantly , by the students how on earth would you stop that ?
The curriculum changes to evolve with changing times , as society begins to accept all genders what would be the point if schools trying to ignore that. Open honest discussions about gender and sexuality are never harmful
Yes in an ideal world parents would teach their own children about everything but they don't so schools do it. |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"I discussed the subject with my eldest pair after we saw a rainbow flag outside the fire station. They had no problem understanding the idea aged 7 and 10. They know that mummy has a girl cousin who was born a boy and a boy cousin who was born a girl. I have no issues with them discussing this at school. "
And it really is as simple as that.
I'm still lost as to how or why this causes so much stress and anger |
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By *ate_BMan
over a year ago
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I get why some would like schools to address the issue as some parents pass too much of their hate/ignorance onto their children. Fingers crossed by the time the kids leave school and cross into the workplace, they’ll have an open mind. |
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This subject gets more and more boring teach kids this teach kids that"why can't the first rule let kids be kids.They have the rest of their lives too discover who they are and what they want to be.parents should parent and teachers in my opinion should listen to what parents want instead of dismissing them as phobic rude people |
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Children need to be taught what responsibility really is, consequences of their actions to people and the environment, respect and discipline, respect everyone for the choices they have made and this should be in early years too, no means no, everyone matters and you have a responsibility to do your best for you and the people around you, tea bag before milk, that kind of stuff should be in the curriculum to stop them becoming monsters |
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Let them go there for what they are there for!
Learning maths English etc..
There's more than enough information freely available just about everywhere for them to fully understand.
If they ask the. Yes tell them but it's down to parents to parent their children.
Life's tough and confusing let them run around play chase and hopscotch just enjoy being carefree just for few years longer before the complexities of life is thrust upon them. |
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"Children need to be taught what responsibility really is, consequences of their actions to people and the environment, respect and discipline, respect everyone for the choices they have made and this should be in early years too, no means no, everyone matters and you have a responsibility to do your best for you and the people around you, tea bag before milk, that kind of stuff should be in the curriculum to stop them becoming monsters "
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No age is too young to start talking about it . The problem as I see it is to ensure that the content/context of those early conversations are age appropriate.
Like it or not , children are going to be exposed to the fact that trans people exist in the world from a younger age and I don’t think it will do anyone any good to act like it not a thing but there’s obviously a danger of giving too much info too soon so it’s a fine line
In my mind it’s the same as having conversations about people with differing physical abilities. Children aren’t stupid, they observe these things and become curious about other people, it’s only natural they’d become curious about someone that might not immediately or outwardly fit into either of the rigidly defined blur or pink boxes. Don’t avoid that curiosity, embrace it but always, always make it age appropriate.
The one caveat that I’d mention is that I’m particularly conciliatory of the risk of creating more confusion by children having a multitude of options suddenly available to them and I might get some stick from fellow lgbt folk but it in having these conversations it should be emphasised that there’s nothing wrong in being happy with who they are as they are and that statistically most people are happy they way they are.
I’m kind of in a stream of consciousness now and probably rambling so I’ll leave it there. I know there will be plenty who will disagree with me and that’s perfectly fine, it’s just my two cents worth in response to OP |
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Without going into too much detail, our experience is that very young children can be/are tolerant. I think it comes from a really inclusive and tolerant bunch of parents, as well as a nurturing and supportive school environment. Whatever they do at the school, we are wholly supportive of. There are very young children and parents/grandparents who span the disability, trans, gay/lesbian spectra, yet everyone appears to co-exist peacefully and cohesively. |
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