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Not a huge fan of action shots, dick pics and a million veris but that’s my personal choice
An opening message with more than one word helps, as does not being rude or wanting to meet RIGHT NOW  | |||
"OMG ...... it's you ! you have nice tits for a bloke"  Way to test my pelvic floor this morning. | |||
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"I’d say personality, looks and similar ‘likes’ in that order
Not a huge fan of action shots, dick pics and a million veris but that’s my personal choice
An opening message with more than one word helps, as does not being rude or wanting to meet RIGHT NOW "A particular liking for chicken helps right? | |||
"I’d say personality, looks and similar ‘likes’ in that order
Not a huge fan of action shots, dick pics and a million veris but that’s my personal choice
An opening message with more than one word helps, as does not being rude or wanting to meet RIGHT NOW
A particular liking for chicken helps right?"Depends on how you’re planning to eat it | |||
"OMG ...... it's you ! you have nice tits for a bloke Way to test my pelvic floor this morning. "Fucks sake
That'll teach me to view profiles before commenting. 
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"OMG ...... it's you ! you have nice tits for a bloke" lol | |||
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"OMG ...... it's you ! you have nice tits for a bloke" Is this in reference to my first pic See its feedback like that I need.
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"From reading other threads a high value man is one who doesn't ask the fora for advice. " Very fair point! I am new here though and it's very different to how I meet women in real life. | |||
"OMG ...... it's you ! you have nice tits for a bloke Is this in reference to my first pic See its feedback like that I need.
"oh yes they don't like to see competition i mean other women in the pics....... Its a no no | |||
"OP you've mentioned dick pics in your opening question. One I forgot to include was this. Guys that don't post photos where it's 95% someone else and 5% dick/hand/tongue/elbow/armpit So my first pic lol. Thanks for the feedback! The idea of photos is to market yourself. If your target market is women then posting photos of other women isn't always going to attract them to you. They may compare themselves. They may consider it indiscreet. Or they may fancy her more than you and the only messages you get from them are the ones asking for her details for some FF fun.
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"Zero expectations. Sense of humour. Doesn't have 213 slightly differently angled cock shot photos. Doesn't blame other mens behaviour for affecting his time on Fab. Doesn't blame 'the ratios' for any perceived lack of success. Patient. Understands no reply is a reply. Realises that men are just as welcome on site as anyone else and are as important to some as those legendary 'unicorns' are to others. A *I could go on but I'll leave some space for others "Yes something that has worked for me is being very chill and polite. I struggle with the no reply is a reply though. I would rather it be deleted so at least I know. Although women are overwhelmed so I assume they dont have time to reply? Also people just randomly going quiet. Does the no reply apply to that? As personally I just say "not feeling it but all the best". Others have said happy Fabbing which I think is a cool polite know. Personally dont like the ghosting but it is what it is. | |||
"It's subjective. We are all looking for different things. " Don’t go saying things like that, you’ll only confuse the poor guy | |||
"It's subjective. We are all looking for different things. Don’t go saying things like that, you’ll only confuse the poor guy" Nah makes complete sense. | |||
"I’d say personality, looks and similar ‘likes’ in that order
Not a huge fan of action shots, dick pics and a million veris but that’s my personal choice
An opening message with more than one word helps, as does not being rude or wanting to meet RIGHT NOW
A particular liking for chicken helps right?
Depends on how you’re planning to eat it "With the juices covering my face and finger lickin good | |||
"Zero expectations. Sense of humour. Doesn't have 213 slightly differently angled cock shot photos. Doesn't blame other mens behaviour for affecting his time on Fab. Doesn't blame 'the ratios' for any perceived lack of success. Patient. Understands no reply is a reply. Realises that men are just as welcome on site as anyone else and are as important to some as those legendary 'unicorns' are to others. A *I could go on but I'll leave some space for others
Yes something that has worked for me is being very chill and polite.
I struggle with the no reply is a reply though. I would rather it be deleted so at least I know. Although women are overwhelmed so I assume they dont have time to reply?
Also people just randomly going quiet. Does the no reply apply to that? As personally I just say "not feeling it but all the best".
Others have said happy Fabbing which I think is a cool polite know. Personally dont like the ghosting but it is what it is."There are many reasons people don't reply. If they do, even with a 'thanks but no thanks' then if at a later date they apply filters to block men messaging, anyone they've previously messaged is immune to that filter. Some men can get stroppy. (Not all obvs) And given many (like us) view a profile before even opening a message it may not ever have been read. We just delete if there's something in he profile that puts us off - pictures, text content or even something as simple as a username. Any reference to 'alpha', 'dom', 'bull', or a name based on some claim of massive cock size or sexual prowess and we gile those in the virtual 'Jay from Inbetweeners' folder and hit delete and block faster than Usain Bolt. A | |||
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"I googled 'high value man'. It's a phrase I'm starting to see often. I would say value yourself and other people and don't try to live up to a catch phrase. "Shit.
I just googled it and the first hit was a site called "The Adult Man" and it defined it as this.
"A high-value man is a man who’s committed to the masculine core evolutionary mandate—to generate resources and solve problems, provide safety and security for his circle, tribe, and family, and help the tribe survive and thrive."
Sounds far too 'Tate' like for me I'm afraid. It listed 12 apparently desirable traits and then led to some BS links about top dating tips to get better results with women.
Oddly the article started out with the author saying he'd been divorced after 10 years of marriage.
Having read the article I'm surprised it took that long. 
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"Morning all, So I have come back to the site after years and years away. This time is had a few meets, meet some nice people and had an amazing amount of ghosting lol. So I am curious what makes a man attractive or high value on this site? In particular the profile before you start talking? Well dressed? Good physique Looking good naked? Videos / photos with other attractive women/men if that's your thing? Funny witty bio? Really good skills demonstrated in videos such as.. Squirting Oral sex Stamina when fcking A large thick cock or all of it? Having been verified by lots of people so you know the man is safe and what hes like? I am curious to understand people thoughts on this. Lots of posts about dick pics and harassment so want to ensure I do it right and we all have fun "Had you been listening to Andrew Tate/Fresh and fit when you posted this question? | |||
"I googled 'high value man'. It's a phrase I'm starting to see often. I would say value yourself and other people and don't try to live up to a catch phrase.
Shit.
I just googled it and the first hit was a site called "The Adult Man" and it defined it as this.
"A high-value man is a man who’s committed to the masculine core evolutionary mandate—to generate resources and solve problems, provide safety and security for his circle, tribe, and family, and help the tribe survive and thrive."
Sounds far too 'Tate' like for me I'm afraid. It listed 12 apparently desirable traits and then led to some BS links about top dating tips to get better results with women.
Oddly the article started out with the author saying he'd been divorced after 10 years of marriage.
Having read the article I'm surprised it took that long.
A"Yeah. It's that mind set again isn't it. I didn't dare Google 'high value woman' | |||
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"I googled 'high value man'. It's a phrase I'm starting to see often. I would say value yourself and other people and don't try to live up to a catch phrase.
Shit.
I just googled it and the first hit was a site called "The Adult Man" and it defined it as this.
"A high-value man is a man who’s committed to the masculine core evolutionary mandate—to generate resources and solve problems, provide safety and security for his circle, tribe, and family, and help the tribe survive and thrive."
Sounds far too 'Tate' like for me I'm afraid. It listed 12 apparently desirable traits and then led to some BS links about top dating tips to get better results with women.
Oddly the article started out with the author saying he'd been divorced after 10 years of marriage.
Having read the article I'm surprised it took that long.
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Yeah. It's that mind set again isn't it.
I didn't dare Google 'high value woman' "The problem is that young men will google this, read it and believe it. There are too many of these so called 'experts' cropping up online these days, steering men down a road that should never be travelled. And definitely too many believers of this crap starting to appear on sites such as Fab. Sometimes I really think the internet needs switching off. 
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"I googled 'high value man'. It's a phrase I'm starting to see often. I would say value yourself and other people and don't try to live up to a catch phrase.
Shit.
I just googled it and the first hit was a site called "The Adult Man" and it defined it as this.
"A high-value man is a man who’s committed to the masculine core evolutionary mandate—to generate resources and solve problems, provide safety and security for his circle, tribe, and family, and help the tribe survive and thrive."
Sounds far too 'Tate' like for me I'm afraid. It listed 12 apparently desirable traits and then led to some BS links about top dating tips to get better results with women.
Oddly the article started out with the author saying he'd been divorced after 10 years of marriage.
Having read the article I'm surprised it took that long.
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Yeah. It's that mind set again isn't it.
I didn't dare Google 'high value woman'
The problem is that young men will google this, read it and believe it.
There are too many of these so called 'experts' cropping up online these days, steering men down a road that should never be travelled.
And definitely too many believers of this crap starting to appear on sites such as Fab.
Sometimes I really think the internet needs switching off.
A"Lol except don't switch my internet off I need it for baby Yoda memes. | |||
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"I absolutely hate the term "high value" and anything similar. So my top tip would be... Don't be someone who thinks that "high value", "elite" and terms like it are acceptable." Oh yes this ^^^ | |||
"Zero expectations. Sense of humour. Doesn't have 213 slightly differently angled cock shot photos. Doesn't blame other mens behaviour for affecting his time on Fab. Doesn't blame 'the ratios' for any perceived lack of success. Patient. Understands no reply is a reply. Realises that men are just as welcome on site as anyone else and are as important to some as those legendary 'unicorns' are to others. A *I could go on but I'll leave some space for others
Yes something that has worked for me is being very chill and polite.
I struggle with the no reply is a reply though. I would rather it be deleted so at least I know. Although women are overwhelmed so I assume they dont have time to reply?
Also people just randomly going quiet. Does the no reply apply to that? As personally I just say "not feeling it but all the best".
Others have said happy Fabbing which I think is a cool polite know. Personally dont like the ghosting but it is what it is."This is not ghosting . The reason women don't reply to say a polite no it a vast majority do not accept the no either trying to convince (vomits) or call you fat or ugly so we gave up trying to polite. 0 expectations is best for sure | |||
"I’d say personality, looks and similar ‘likes’ in that order
Not a huge fan of action shots, dick pics and a million veris but that’s my personal choice
An opening message with more than one word helps, as does not being rude or wanting to meet RIGHT NOW
A particular liking for chicken helps right?
Depends on how you’re planning to eat it
With the juices covering my face and finger lickin good "That is the correct answer | |||
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"I'm fully aware I'm the dried up piece of bread pudding in the bakery window, surrounded by éclairs, sprinkle doughnuts and apple turnovers. " Can i have custard with my bread pudding, and are there raisins in it, and I love the dried up edges and a soggy middle. | |||
"Morning all, So I have come back to the site after years and years away. This time is had a few meets, meet some nice people and had an amazing amount of ghosting lol. So I am curious what makes a man attractive or high value on this site? In particular the profile before you start talking? Well dressed? Good physique Looking good naked? Videos / photos with other attractive women/men if that's your thing? Funny witty bio? Really good skills demonstrated in videos such as.. Squirting Oral sex Stamina when fcking A large thick cock or all of it? Having been verified by lots of people so you know the man is safe and what hes like? I am curious to understand people thoughts on this. Lots of posts about dick pics and harassment so want to ensure I do it right and we all have fun
Had you been listening to Andrew Tate/Fresh and fit when you posted this question?"No I work in the mental health field at an extremely high level hence the discretion. Unfortunately Andrew Tate etc took this term from world renowned psychologists David Buss and Neuroscientist Andrew Hubberman. Not the other way around. | |||
"Zero expectations. Sense of humour. Doesn't have 213 slightly differently angled cock shot photos. Doesn't blame other mens behaviour for affecting his time on Fab. Doesn't blame 'the ratios' for any perceived lack of success. Patient. Understands no reply is a reply. Realises that men are just as welcome on site as anyone else and are as important to some as those legendary 'unicorns' are to others. A *I could go on but I'll leave some space for others
Yes something that has worked for me is being very chill and polite.
I struggle with the no reply is a reply though. I would rather it be deleted so at least I know. Although women are overwhelmed so I assume they dont have time to reply?
Also people just randomly going quiet. Does the no reply apply to that? As personally I just say "not feeling it but all the best".
Others have said happy Fabbing which I think is a cool polite know. Personally dont like the ghosting but it is what it is.
This is not ghosting . The reason women don't reply to say a polite no it a vast majority do not accept the no either trying to convince (vomits) or call you fat or ugly so we gave up trying to polite.
0 expectations is best for sure "OK that makes sense. Diddnt look at it like that. | |||
"I googled 'high value man'. It's a phrase I'm starting to see often. I would say value yourself and other people and don't try to live up to a catch phrase.
Shit.
I just googled it and the first hit was a site called "The Adult Man" and it defined it as this.
"A high-value man is a man who’s committed to the masculine core evolutionary mandate—to generate resources and solve problems, provide safety and security for his circle, tribe, and family, and help the tribe survive and thrive."
Sounds far too 'Tate' like for me I'm afraid. It listed 12 apparently desirable traits and then led to some BS links about top dating tips to get better results with women.
Oddly the article started out with the author saying he'd been divorced after 10 years of marriage.
Having read the article I'm surprised it took that long.
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Yeah. It's that mind set again isn't it.
I didn't dare Google 'high value woman'
The problem is that young men will google this, read it and believe it.
There are too many of these so called 'experts' cropping up online these days, steering men down a road that should never be travelled.
And definitely too many believers of this crap starting to appear on sites such as Fab.
Sometimes I really think the internet needs switching off.
A"Yes I understand that but what dont realise it is a legit term used in biological and psychological studies of human behaviour. It's been around since the 70's. I should have explained that to be fair as I found out through this post how people view that phrase and the connection to people like Andrew Tate. | |||
"I googled 'high value man'. It's a phrase I'm starting to see often. I would say value yourself and other people and don't try to live up to a catch phrase.
Shit.
I just googled it and the first hit was a site called "The Adult Man" and it defined it as this.
"A high-value man is a man who’s committed to the masculine core evolutionary mandate—to generate resources and solve problems, provide safety and security for his circle, tribe, and family, and help the tribe survive and thrive."
Sounds far too 'Tate' like for me I'm afraid. It listed 12 apparently desirable traits and then led to some BS links about top dating tips to get better results with women.
Oddly the article started out with the author saying he'd been divorced after 10 years of marriage.
Having read the article I'm surprised it took that long.
A
Yeah. It's that mind set again isn't it.
I didn't dare Google 'high value woman'
The problem is that young men will google this, read it and believe it.
There are too many of these so called 'experts' cropping up online these days, steering men down a road that should never be travelled.
And definitely too many believers of this crap starting to appear on sites such as Fab.
Sometimes I really think the internet needs switching off.
A
Yes I understand that but what dont realise it is a legit term used in biological and psychological studies of human behaviour. It's been around since the 70's.
I should have explained that to be fair as I found out through this post how people view that phrase and the connection to people like Andrew Tate."I just wonder why you used it and some of the other phrases in your post. Were you aware of the connotations? | |||
"I googled 'high value man'. It's a phrase I'm starting to see often. I would say value yourself and other people and don't try to live up to a catch phrase.
Shit.
I just googled it and the first hit was a site called "The Adult Man" and it defined it as this.
"A high-value man is a man who’s committed to the masculine core evolutionary mandate—to generate resources and solve problems, provide safety and security for his circle, tribe, and family, and help the tribe survive and thrive."
Sounds far too 'Tate' like for me I'm afraid. It listed 12 apparently desirable traits and then led to some BS links about top dating tips to get better results with women.
Oddly the article started out with the author saying he'd been divorced after 10 years of marriage.
Having read the article I'm surprised it took that long.
A
Yeah. It's that mind set again isn't it.
I didn't dare Google 'high value woman'
The problem is that young men will google this, read it and believe it.
There are too many of these so called 'experts' cropping up online these days, steering men down a road that should never be travelled.
And definitely too many believers of this crap starting to appear on sites such as Fab.
Sometimes I really think the internet needs switching off.
A
Yes I understand that but what dont realise it is a legit term used in biological and psychological studies of human behaviour. It's been around since the 70's.
I should have explained that to be fair as I found out through this post how people view that phrase and the connection to people like Andrew Tate.
I just wonder why you used it and some of the other phrases in your post. Were you aware of the connotations?"No I was not aware. I did not mean to cause offence. I got the term from David Buss many years ago. It's just a way of saying a desirable mate with a lot of attention compared others. When looking at human or animal eating behaviour is where the term originated. I know who Andrew Tate is but did not know he used this phrase or people would connect it to him. So I apologise if it has come across in a different light that intended. | |||
"I googled 'high value man'. It's a phrase I'm starting to see often. I would say value yourself and other people and don't try to live up to a catch phrase.
Shit.
I just googled it and the first hit was a site called "The Adult Man" and it defined it as this.
"A high-value man is a man who’s committed to the masculine core evolutionary mandate—to generate resources and solve problems, provide safety and security for his circle, tribe, and family, and help the tribe survive and thrive."
Sounds far too 'Tate' like for me I'm afraid. It listed 12 apparently desirable traits and then led to some BS links about top dating tips to get better results with women.
Oddly the article started out with the author saying he'd been divorced after 10 years of marriage.
Having read the article I'm surprised it took that long.
A
Yeah. It's that mind set again isn't it.
I didn't dare Google 'high value woman'
The problem is that young men will google this, read it and believe it.
There are too many of these so called 'experts' cropping up online these days, steering men down a road that should never be travelled.
And definitely too many believers of this crap starting to appear on sites such as Fab.
Sometimes I really think the internet needs switching off.
A
Yes I understand that but what dont realise it is a legit term used in biological and psychological studies of human behaviour. It's been around since the 70's.
I should have explained that to be fair as I found out through this post how people view that phrase and the connection to people like Andrew Tate.
I just wonder why you used it and some of the other phrases in your post. Were you aware of the connotations?
No I was not aware.
I did not mean to cause offence.
I got the term from David Buss many years ago.
It's just a way of saying a desirable mate with a lot of attention compared others.
When looking at human or animal eating behaviour is where the term originated.
I know who Andrew Tate is but did not know he used this phrase or people would connect it to him.
So I apologise if it has come across in a different light that intended."I don't think anyone has taken offence. David Buss has collaborated with Jordan Peterson hasn't he? | |||
"I googled 'high value man'. It's a phrase I'm starting to see often. I would say value yourself and other people and don't try to live up to a catch phrase.
Shit.
I just googled it and the first hit was a site called "The Adult Man" and it defined it as this.
"A high-value man is a man who’s committed to the masculine core evolutionary mandate—to generate resources and solve problems, provide safety and security for his circle, tribe, and family, and help the tribe survive and thrive."
Sounds far too 'Tate' like for me I'm afraid. It listed 12 apparently desirable traits and then led to some BS links about top dating tips to get better results with women.
Oddly the article started out with the author saying he'd been divorced after 10 years of marriage.
Having read the article I'm surprised it took that long.
A
Yeah. It's that mind set again isn't it.
I didn't dare Google 'high value woman'
The problem is that young men will google this, read it and believe it.
There are too many of these so called 'experts' cropping up online these days, steering men down a road that should never be travelled.
And definitely too many believers of this crap starting to appear on sites such as Fab.
Sometimes I really think the internet needs switching off.
A
Yes I understand that but what dont realise it is a legit term used in biological and psychological studies of human behaviour. It's been around since the 70's.
I should have explained that to be fair as I found out through this post how people view that phrase and the connection to people like Andrew Tate.
I just wonder why you used it and some of the other phrases in your post. Were you aware of the connotations?
No I was not aware.
I did not mean to cause offence.
I got the term from David Buss many years ago.
It's just a way of saying a desirable mate with a lot of attention compared others.
When looking at human or animal eating behaviour is where the term originated.
I know who Andrew Tate is but did not know he used this phrase or people would connect it to him.
So I apologise if it has come across in a different light that intended.
I don't think anyone has taken offence.
David Buss has collaborated with Jordan Peterson hasn't he?"To be fair I'd never heard of Buss so I googled him. Here's what I found out about his 'Mate Theory'
"Mate value is derived from Charles Darwin's theory of evolution and sexual selection, as well as the social exchange theory of relationships. Mate value is defined as the sum of traits that are perceived as desirable, representing genetic quality and/or fitness (biology), an indication of a potential mate's reproductive success. Based on mate desirability and mate preference, mate value underpins mate selection and the formation of romantic relationships.
Mate value can predict availability of mates, for example, a higher mate value means one is desirable to more individuals and so can afford to be more choosy in mate selection. Thus, one's own mate value can influence trait and mate preferences, it has been shown that an individual will show preference for another who has a similar mate value, to avoid rejection. Specifically, one could infer that one's own mate value has a direct impact upon partner choice through the biological market theory. Here, it is believed that 'high-market' (more attractive individuals), are able to translate mate preference into actual choice, primarily due to the fact they have more to offer, such as positive health markers, consequently affecting reproductive success. Ultimately, mate value has been suggested as a 'determining factor in mate choice', consequently influencing the reproductive success of an individual."
So not a million miles from the twaddle that Tate and his ilk spout now.
It may be old psychology but the dates I saw were a lot more recent than you state - the oldest I could find reference to was 1989, with a lot more recent articles.
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Apart from the obvious of not having a cock womble profile I would say biggest thing is chatting to ladies like human beings and not sex objects albeit with appropriate flirting. However, not sure one size fits and any of us are higher value than others. Really depends on the lady or couple in question and finding those that you gel with. Would say videos demonstrating supposed sexual prowess probably not the way to go with most. Best of luck on your new journey. | |||
"Displaying veris helps for a little social validation
Apart from the obvious of not having a cock womble profile I would say biggest thing is chatting to ladies like human beings and not sex objects albeit with appropriate flirting. However, not sure one size fits and any of us are higher value than others. Really depends on the lady or couple in question and finding those that you gel with. Would say videos demonstrating supposed sexual prowess probably not the way to go with most. Best of luck on your new journey. "Thanks for the helpful response | |||
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