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"You know ladies do it too. They have straight on their profile even though they only want to meet women. So it goes both ways. " I must admit I don’t often look at women’s profiles as I don’t meet single women so I’ll take your word for that. Obviously I’m bi but it says that in my profile and in the write up part. Still don’t get it though. Or why they do it. Either sex can answer. Please. | |||
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"Barring the obvious 'Fab straight' I really think a lot of people who sign up have no idea what many tick boxes actually mean. I always imagine somebody coming out of a shitty divorce, lived within a bubble for a decade or two and nature's urges have dragged them here looking for sexual satisfaction, they have no idea what DP, DVP, MMF, MFM, stag, vixen, HW and in this case TV/TS, either that or they believe until they have played the bi/bi-curious box doesn't fit them." I can accept newbies may not get the acronyms. That would explain some but not the nes who then have verified meets with men and or from TVS, but still say they are straight. | |||
"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you. "you do know all trans women are women right thus you can be into trans and be straight trans women are women or at least that's what I was always told | |||
"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you. you do know all trans women are women right thus you can be into trans and be straight trans women are women or at least that's what I was always told"Hence why I said TVS. I didn’t say Ts because they could be post op TS. but I am specifically talking about transvestites. Which for me means men who enjoy dressing in female clothes. (It’s more rare to have women dressing in men’s clothes calling themselves TV). So guys who choose to present as female but still have a penis not a vagina and are not wanting to become female. Just like dressing up. | |||
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"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you. you do know all trans women are women right thus you can be into trans and be straight trans women are women or at least that's what I was always told
Hence why I said TVS. I didn’t say Ts because they could be post op TS. but I am specifically talking about transvestites. Which for me means men who enjoy dressing in female clothes. (It’s more rare to have women dressing in men’s clothes calling themselves TV). So guys who choose to present as female but still have a penis not a vagina and are not wanting to become female. Just like dressing up.
"Yeah but also depends if they just Crossens or if they actually feel female as if they do then they are still women cock and all just caus ether aint got op yet don't mean aint women iv saw some on here even call them self women and say they wouldn't even sleep with trans they consider themselves straight women | |||
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"Where abouts south west you if you don’t mind me asking " I’m not sure who you are asking this question too? I can’t see anyone saying anything about the south west.  | |||
"Also as I said I'm not the authority figure on this im sure tv and such would be happy to answer these questions I can only answer them from pov of I am totally straight but can't control a fetish say for shiny clothes if someone's whos a hot TV wears them then I cant say I'm not attracted to them as the pique my sexual radar on other things rather than sexual gender etc and I view all who dress and act or wanna be a women as a women just my opinion tho and understand other will have wide views" Someone who wants to be a woman or views themselves as female is trans sexual. T’s. Someone who is male but wears women’s clothes is transvestite. I am talking about men who wear women’s clothes. Not TS. They are two very different things. That’s why I’m asking the question of guys. It may be as someone else said, that they just don’t know the difference. | |||
"Also as I said I'm not the authority figure on this im sure tv and such would be happy to answer these questions I can only answer them from pov of I am totally straight but can't control a fetish say for shiny clothes if someone's whos a hot TV wears them then I cant say I'm not attracted to them as the pique my sexual radar on other things rather than sexual gender etc and I view all who dress and act or wanna be a women as a women just my opinion tho and understand other will have wide views" So from your point of view then as long as they dress female and present as female you would meet them sexually even though they have a penis, and don’t think your bi because they look like women? So the vagina isn’t relevant, is that what you mean?? | |||
"Also as I said I'm not the authority figure on this im sure tv and such would be happy to answer these questions I can only answer them from pov of I am totally straight but can't control a fetish say for shiny clothes if someone's whos a hot TV wears them then I cant say I'm not attracted to them as the pique my sexual radar on other things rather than sexual gender etc and I view all who dress and act or wanna be a women as a women just my opinion tho and understand other will have wide views So from your point of view then as long as they dress female and present as female you would meet them sexually even though they have a penis, and don’t think your bi because they look like women? So the vagina isn’t relevant, is that what you mean??" to me all both are femal ts or tv and I maybe the one maken the bad assumptions but as for sex no I would never have actually intercoms with them as I need a vagina for arouse and to get hard but thats not to say that if say a male who wants be a women or is a crosse dresser dresses in exact thing to get me arouse I won't as its my fetish but is that to say I want a full interiors relationship no I'm only speaking from my pov from the fact I am straight but find alot of tv and ts wear arousing fetish wear and do they look hot in it yeah thats like say a women doesn't look hot in it to me thers mo difference but naked form there a difference if you get me ..... again my own personal view I don't have long term relationships with tv but my fwb wants to fucj a sissy one or have them fuck her while I watch | |||
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"I think a lot of men who have straight on their profile and are looking for CD/TV or even transsexuals are in denial. Some will not admit to being bi or even bi curious, I get lots of messages from men that have straight on their profile." Thank you Sophia. I think you may be right. If they haven’t tried it but want to meet CDs, TVs etc then I think there must at least be some curiosity or what’s the point in meeting. But I’ve literally seen at least 10 profiles tonight where they say they are straight in the bio and some even reiterate it in the text and yet say they will meet TV’s. There must be a lot of tea drinking and chatting about fabric or something if they are not meeting for sex. | |||
"I think a lot of men who have straight on their profile and are looking for CD/TV or even transsexuals are in denial. Some will not admit to being bi or even bi curious, I get lots of messages from men that have straight on their profile. Thank you Sophia. I think you may be right. If they haven’t tried it but want to meet CDs, TVs etc then I think there must at least be some curiosity or what’s the point in meeting. But I’ve literally seen at least 10 profiles tonight where they say they are straight in the bio and some even reiterate it in the text and yet say they will meet TV’s. There must be a lot of tea drinking and chatting about fabric or something if they are not meeting for sex. " Haha, I wouldn't meet anyone that isn't honest enough to admit that they are at least bi-curious and I am certainly not going to let them act out their fantasy or curiosity with me. I know that a lot of women will not meet men that have bisexual or have looking for TV on their profiles which I completely understand. | |||
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"Very simply most men don’t want to damage their chances of meeting females / couples on here that don’t like bi men (Which is probably at least 70% of women / couples ) I guess It’s just about playing odds " Your pics are amazing  | |||
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"tbh i think some guys are gay/bi and in denial. whilst some are straight (myself) with some interesting stories to why they hold on to there hetrosexual status. for myself i have no interest in men whatsoever. but when i was about 19/20 i was cat fished by a ts who gave me head a few times before i clicked but then it was to late and what happened happened and i came harder than i ever do.ive always been a head fiend and ts/tv are so available and put in so much effort that its hard to cut them out mylife for good cos sometimes u need that A10 head and unlike women A Ts will be super focused on making sure u get what u need. like most sexual stuff once u experience somthing even if u consider it taboo. its hard to let it go. and sexual activities are things men especially find hard to walk away from ... i think some ppl r natrually gay. some get converted and others get exposed to their world via catfish like myself or they experiment when at a point of desperation." Experiment at the point of desperation? Wow. | |||
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"tbh i think some guys are gay/bi and in denial. whilst some are straight (myself) with some interesting stories to why they hold on to there hetrosexual status. for myself i have no interest in men whatsoever. but when i was about 19/20 i was cat fished by a ts who gave me head a few times before i clicked but then it was to late and what happened happened and i came harder than i ever do.ive always been a head fiend and ts/tv are so available and put in so much effort that its hard to cut them out mylife for good cos sometimes u need that A10 head and unlike women A Ts will be super focused on making sure u get what u need. like most sexual stuff once u experience somthing even if u consider it taboo. its hard to let it go. and sexual activities are things men especially find hard to walk away from ... i think some ppl r natrually gay. some get converted and others get exposed to their world via catfish like myself or they experiment when at a point of desperation. Experiment at the point of desperation? Wow. "Does he mean it's like Prison Gay because they can't meet the women and couples. | |||
"tbh i think some guys are gay/bi and in denial. whilst some are straight (myself) with some interesting stories to why they hold on to there hetrosexual status. for myself i have no interest in men whatsoever. but when i was about 19/20 i was cat fished by a ts who gave me head a few times before i clicked but then it was to late and what happened happened and i came harder than i ever do.ive always been a head fiend and ts/tv are so available and put in so much effort that its hard to cut them out mylife for good cos sometimes u need that A10 head and unlike women A Ts will be super focused on making sure u get what u need. like most sexual stuff once u experience somthing even if u consider it taboo. its hard to let it go. and sexual activities are things men especially find hard to walk away from ... i think some ppl r natrually gay. some get converted and others get exposed to their world via catfish like myself or they experiment when at a point of desperation. Experiment at the point of desperation? Wow.
Does he mean it's like Prison Gay because they can't meet the women and couples."Seems so to me. Though I wouldn’t call it prison ‘gay’. Bring gay isn’t a series of physical acts simply devoid of the opposite sex. | |||
"tbh i think some guys are gay/bi and in denial. whilst some are straight (myself) with some interesting stories to why they hold on to there hetrosexual status. for myself i have no interest in men whatsoever. but when i was about 19/20 i was cat fished by a ts who gave me head a few times before i clicked but then it was to late and what happened happened and i came harder than i ever do.ive always been a head fiend and ts/tv are so available and put in so much effort that its hard to cut them out mylife for good cos sometimes u need that A10 head and unlike women A Ts will be super focused on making sure u get what u need. like most sexual stuff once u experience somthing even if u consider it taboo. its hard to let it go. and sexual activities are things men especially find hard to walk away from ... i think some ppl r natrually gay. some get converted and others get exposed to their world via catfish like myself or they experiment when at a point of desperation. Experiment at the point of desperation? Wow.
Does he mean it's like Prison Gay because they can't meet the women and couples.
Seems so to me. Though I wouldn’t call it prison ‘gay’. Bring gay isn’t a series of physical acts simply devoid of the opposite sex. "A lot of people in Prison claim to be straight and some you wouldn't want to argue with. | |||
"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you. "They ain't straight. I've seen straight male profiles who are only looking to meet tv/ts. Some gay and bisexual men think that straight men will have sex with them and they believe they have had sex with straight men. That's just nonsense. They don't know the meaning of the word straight. I had a man message me asking for sex and when I said no sorry I'm straight and not looking to meet men. He said "that's ok I only meet straight men for sex" Ffs it's so stupid it annoys me. | |||
"tbh i think some guys are gay/bi and in denial. whilst some are straight (myself) with some interesting stories to why they hold on to there hetrosexual status. for myself i have no interest in men whatsoever. but when i was about 19/20 i was cat fished by a ts who gave me head a few times before i clicked but then it was to late and what happened happened and i came harder than i ever do.ive always been a head fiend and ts/tv are so available and put in so much effort that its hard to cut them out mylife for good cos sometimes u need that A10 head and unlike women A Ts will be super focused on making sure u get what u need. like most sexual stuff once u experience somthing even if u consider it taboo. its hard to let it go. and sexual activities are things men especially find hard to walk away from ... i think some ppl r natrually gay. some get converted and others get exposed to their world via catfish like myself or they experiment when at a point of desperation. Experiment at the point of desperation? Wow.
Does he mean it's like Prison Gay because they can't meet the women and couples.
Seems so to me. Though I wouldn’t call it prison ‘gay’. Bring gay isn’t a series of physical acts simply devoid of the opposite sex.
A lot of people in Prison claim to be straight and some you wouldn't want to argue with. "Don’t think I’d want to argue with any of them tbh. | |||
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"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you. "Although I prefer the term transwoman to TS and for all intents and purposes I am a woman hence my profile, I am technically TS also. Get confusing doesn’t it lol Would you say a man interested in me was straight, bi or gay?  | |||
"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you. "It's really not surprising that many single male profiles do this, when it's acceptable in Fab for female and couple profiles to go "no bisexual men". In fact I'd say single male profiles who even dare to openly state that they're bi, or say they're looking for women/TV/TS in their "seeking" section are the brave ones. I think you'd be more than familiar with straight single male profiles with not a lick of open indication that they're looking for TV/TS slipping into your messages looking to meet you for some secretive sexy fun. If indicating in any way shape or form that you're into say 10% of the site population (who are trans) puts you into potential doubt with 30/40% of the site population (who are females and couples), when you're one of the 50% of the site (who are single male profiles), of which maybe 5% of that 50% single male population have ANYTHING coming CLOSE to having a "regular Fab sex life" on here, how many single men will willingly shoot their "Fab desirability" in the foot by indicating that they're open to meeting trans people? | |||
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"To the OP. In most cases I would say they are lying because they think of they put bi on their profile woman generally won't want anything to do with them." | |||
"To the OP. In most cases I would say they are lying because they think of they put bi on their profile woman generally won't want anything to do with them. "Bi-erasure on here is such a massive problem I think. Well Male Bi-erasure anyway, Femme bi seems to be celebrated, never understood the double standard on that one  | |||
"To the OP. In most cases I would say they are lying because they think of they put bi on their profile woman generally won't want anything to do with them.
Bi-erasure on here is such a massive problem I think. Well Male Bi-erasure anyway, Femme bi seems to be celebrated, never understood the double standard on that one "It's not just on here, it's in the whole LGBT/general human society too. We're shit at viewing things in anything other than binary black and white terms. You must be either one or the other, for or against. There's no range. There's no nuance. And above all else, we care too much about labels. It's not who I am, but what I do that should define me. | |||
" It's not just on here, it's in the whole LGBT/general human society too. We're shit at viewing things in anything other than binary black and white terms. You must be either one or the other, for or against. There's no range. There's no nuance. And above all else, we care too much about labels. It's not who I am, but what I do that should define me. " So so true
But can we also just take a moment and acknowledge the sneaky Batman reference  | |||
"To the OP. In most cases I would say they are lying because they think of they put bi on their profile woman generally won't want anything to do with them.
Bi-erasure on here is such a massive problem I think. Well Male Bi-erasure anyway, Femme bi seems to be celebrated, never understood the double standard on that one
It's not just on here, it's in the whole LGBT/general human society too. We're shit at viewing things in anything other than binary black and white terms. You must be either one or the other, for or against. There's no range. There's no nuance. And above all else, we care too much about labels. It's not who I am, but what I do that should define me. "No, labels are still important, if I go to a shop, I want the Taste the difference meal, not the value brand meal that had a taste the difference sticker on it. They should mean something, people should just be more honest. It's the dishonesty that annoys people. | |||
"No, labels are still important, if I go to a shop, I want the Taste the difference meal, not the value brand meal that had a taste the difference sticker on it. They should mean something, people should just be more honest. It's the dishonesty that annoys people. " I’m not sure that analogy works? People are far more nuanced and individual than products on a shelf. It’s generally only for other’s benefit that we fit itself into boxes and labels to save them the effort of getting to know us as individuals | |||
"To the OP. In most cases I would say they are lying because they think of they put bi on their profile woman generally won't want anything to do with them.
Bi-erasure on here is such a massive problem I think. Well Male Bi-erasure anyway, Femme bi seems to be celebrated, never understood the double standard on that one
It's not just on here, it's in the whole LGBT/general human society too. We're shit at viewing things in anything other than binary black and white terms. You must be either one or the other, for or against. There's no range. There's no nuance. And above all else, we care too much about labels. It's not who I am, but what I do that should define me.
No, labels are still important, if I go to a shop, I want the Taste the difference meal, not the value brand meal that had a taste the difference sticker on it.
They should mean something, people should just be more honest.
It's the dishonesty that annoys people. "Is there any incentive on this site or in general society for people to be honest about anything? Bear in mind, it cannot be SELECTIVE permissiveness for SELECTED honesties. Because that'd just be hypocrisy. | |||
"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you. "Glad you asked this as I wonder the same. I won't entertain any man who says he is straight but looking for a TV/TS. It's a thanks but no thanks and wiah you well. | |||
"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you.
Glad you asked this as I wonder the same. I won't entertain any man who says he is straight but looking for a TV/TS. It's a thanks but no thanks and wiah you well. "Everyone’s entitled to their own preferences of course. Out of curiosity would you feel the same about a bi-man who was looking for a tv/ts ? | |||
"No, labels are still important, if I go to a shop, I want the Taste the difference meal, not the value brand meal that had a taste the difference sticker on it. They should mean something, people should just be more honest. It's the dishonesty that annoys people. I’m not sure that analogy works? People are far more nuanced and individual than products on a shelf. It’s generally only for other’s benefit that we fit itself into boxes and labels to save them the effort of getting to know us as individuals " It works because if people are looking for a genuinely straight man but he is meeting TV/TS then they are not, they don't want to be duped. It is a preference of theirs that should be respected. He has 'Straight' on his profile though. The Straight therefore starts to mean nothing if everyone is doing it. We need a super straight label then. | |||
"To the OP. In most cases I would say they are lying because they think of they put bi on their profile woman generally won't want anything to do with them.
Bi-erasure on here is such a massive problem I think. Well Male Bi-erasure anyway, Femme bi seems to be celebrated, never understood the double standard on that one
It's not just on here, it's in the whole LGBT/general human society too. We're shit at viewing things in anything other than binary black and white terms. You must be either one or the other, for or against. There's no range. There's no nuance. And above all else, we care too much about labels. It's not who I am, but what I do that should define me.
No, labels are still important, if I go to a shop, I want the Taste the difference meal, not the value brand meal that had a taste the difference sticker on it.
They should mean something, people should just be more honest.
It's the dishonesty that annoys people.
Is there any incentive on this site or in general society for people to be honest about anything? Bear in mind, it cannot be SELECTIVE permissiveness for SELECTED honesties. Because that'd just be hypocrisy. "People are obviously gonna try represent themselves in the best way possible with maybe a few white lies. That is deception though. | |||
"It works because if people are looking for a genuinely straight man but he is meeting TV/TS then they are not, they don't want to be duped. It is a preference of theirs that should be respected. He has 'Straight' on his profile though. The Straight therefore starts to mean nothing if everyone is doing it. We need a super straight label then. " If anything from my perspective it goes to prove how much that analogy doesn’t work. Labels are o put as good as people impression of them. You mentioned about brands in a supermarket. Well one supermarket’s “best of” brand might be equal to another supermarket's value range. Think m and s compared to Lidl for example. Half the problem here is that trans people (and those looking for them) are limited by the very limited option of tv/ts where that encompasses such a huge range of personal situations. I’m not going to go into the argument of needing more options, that’s been discussed over and over here and never gets anywhere. But it does go to show that technically the category ranges from someone who occasionally wears their wives underwear through to someone such as myself who has lived exclusively for the last decade and has had multiple, permanent medical interventions. The label just doesn’t work and it’s why getting to know an individual is so important. My interpretation of that label may be different to yours | |||
"It works because if people are looking for a genuinely straight man but he is meeting TV/TS then they are not, they don't want to be duped. It is a preference of theirs that should be respected. He has 'Straight' on his profile though. The Straight therefore starts to mean nothing if everyone is doing it. We need a super straight label then. If anything from my perspective it goes to prove how much that analogy doesn’t work. Labels are o put as good as people impression of them. You mentioned about brands in a supermarket. Well one supermarket’s “best of” brand might be equal to another supermarket's value range. Think m and s compared to Lidl for example. Half the problem here is that trans people (and those looking for them) are limited by the very limited option of tv/ts where that encompasses such a huge range of personal situations. I’m not going to go into the argument of needing more options, that’s been discussed over and over here and never gets anywhere. But it does go to show that technically the category ranges from someone who occasionally wears their wives underwear through to someone such as myself who has lived exclusively for the last decade and has had multiple, permanent medical interventions. The label just doesn’t work and it’s why getting to know an individual is so important. My interpretation of that label may be different to yours " Label is meant to classify something accurately if it's incorrect it needs a new label which their is choice for. This is just about men who call themselves straight who meet TV/TS. Which to most is an inaccurate label. | |||
"Label is meant to classify something accurately if it's incorrect it needs a new label which their is choice for. This is just about men who call themselves straight who meet TV/TS. Which to most is an inaccurate label. " That maybe a nice idea in theory but I’m afraid the world isn’t that black and white as much as you’d like it to be. Particularly on this site, we have to work with the options available and they just don’t align with the wonders of human sexuality and gender spectrums. I don’t profess to preach to anyone that they should think the same way as me, but I believe that a man interested in me is straight (or at least bi). If they aligned as gay, I be a bit annoyed. Perhaps you feel differently and you know what, that okay. I don’t agree with you but that’s okay. It just goes to show that labels are subject to perception no matter how many of them you may have, want, or invent in the future | |||
"Label is meant to classify something accurately if it's incorrect it needs a new label which their is choice for. This is just about men who call themselves straight who meet TV/TS. Which to most is an inaccurate label. That maybe a nice idea in theory but I’m afraid the world isn’t that black and white as much as you’d like it to be. Particularly on this site, we have to work with the options available and they just don’t align with the wonders of human sexuality and gender spectrums. I don’t profess to preach to anyone that they should think the same way as me, but I believe that a man interested in me is straight (or at least bi). If they aligned as gay, I be a bit annoyed. Perhaps you feel differently and you know what, that okay. I don’t agree with you but that’s okay. It just goes to show that labels are subject to perception no matter how many of them you may have, want, or invent in the future " World would be chaos without labels. They are some labels which accurately describe people on here and some which don't. The definition of Straight. 'Sexually or romantically attracted exclusively to people of the other sex' It is pretty black and white to most people. You're getting into semantics. | |||
"World would be chaos without labels. They are some labels which accurately describe people on here and some which don't. The definition of Straight. 'Sexually or romantically attracted exclusively to people of the other sex' It is pretty black and white to most people. You're getting into semantics." Op asked a question, all I’m trying to do is answer that question not trying to start an argument or debate semantics. I’m just very happy for you that in your experience the existing labels have worked so far. All I can say is that for others they don’t and that’s why they end up being interpreted. I’m sorry if that answer doesn’t work for you and feel free to continue thinking it’s somehow a mis truth but it’s the closest I can get to an answer for OP’s question. | |||
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"I think a lot of men who have straight on their profile and are looking for CD/TV or even transsexuals are in denial. Some will not admit to being bi or even bi curious, I get lots of messages from men that have straight on their profile. Thank you Sophia. I think you may be right. If they haven’t tried it but want to meet CDs, TVs etc then I think there must at least be some curiosity or what’s the point in meeting. But I’ve literally seen at least 10 profiles tonight where they say they are straight in the bio and some even reiterate it in the text and yet say they will meet TV’s. There must be a lot of tea drinking and chatting about fabric or something if they are not meeting for sex. Haha, I wouldn't meet anyone that isn't honest enough to admit that they are at least bi-curious and I am certainly not going to let them act out their fantasy or curiosity with me. I know that a lot of women will not meet men that have bisexual or have looking for TV on their profiles which I completely understand." Good for you. Stick by your own boundaries girl xxx | |||
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"In my humble opinion if a guy is attracted to the female form they are straight, regardless if the person has a cock or not?" Being attracted to the female form is one thing, having sex with a tv/ts is not what a straight man does. He is bisexual. | |||
"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you.
Glad you asked this as I wonder the same. I won't entertain any man who says he is straight but looking for a TV/TS. It's a thanks but no thanks and wiah you well.
Everyone’s entitled to their own preferences of course. Out of curiosity would you feel the same about a bi-man who was looking for a tv/ts ? "I know the question wasn't to me, but I find men who are bi a hell of a lot more attractive than the straight guys who are in denial. | |||
"A lot of guys put straight on their profile instead of bi. They feel that straight women and straight couples won't meet them if they are openly bi. In a lot of cases they are probably correct." This is absolutely the main reason for most men on here 100%. fab is a numbers game for single men mostly ... most guys will do whatever they can to increase the odds in their favour . | |||
"If you're fucking a TV you're gay as the sky is blue. " bisexual is the term you are seeking here ... Gay would be same sex only attraction ... men are gay/ women are gay means they only go with their same sex and never the opposite sex .. the majority of men into TV/Trans Women are also fucking women as well ... so its almost impossible for them to be gay , as much as a hetresoxsxual would claim to can only go straight . | |||
"Just had one right now! Probably as a result of them reading this as they are not local. Straight guy looking for tvs. I am a bloke in a wig!!!" Lol. I love that you don’t mince your words. It makes total sense to me that a TV is a bloke who loves the feeling of wearing clothes etc that are traditionally seen as female. I think I can wear any bloody thing and so can you but when I wear trousers it doesn’t make me a bloke and when you wear stockings or heels or a dress it doesn’t make you a woman. That for me is the fundamental thing about being a TV. I also get that a TS is something different. That’s about someone wanting to be female. This is why I was specifically talking about TV. If a guy is fancying another guy surely that’s bi xxxx | |||
"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you.
Glad you asked this as I wonder the same. I won't entertain any man who says he is straight but looking for a TV/TS. It's a thanks but no thanks and wiah you well.
Everyone’s entitled to their own preferences of course. Out of curiosity would you feel the same about a bi-man who was looking for a tv/ts ?
I know the question wasn't to me, but I find men who are bi a hell of a lot more attractive than the straight guys who are in denial. "Honesty is always more attractive. | |||
"Op like one poster said, a fair few men are attracted to the feminity of TVs, so even when they meet them for sexual activity they still consider themselves 100 per cent straight. You would be surprised by how many 100 per cent straight who have had more cock than we have". You may be right. | |||
"I have a friend who dresses (very well I might add) purely to fuck guys who won't fuck him when he presents as a man " Now that’s interesting. Good for him if it’s working for him x | |||
"I think a lot put straight because bi guys get a bit of a bad reputation. Wrongly so in my opinion, bi women are some how lauded as unicorns but bi guys don’t get the same treatment! To be honest, I think labels create the issue, if we took away labels and you could just decide who you chatted to/played with based on attraction regardless of sexual orientation it would be a much better world! " I wouldn’t have a problem with this. I’m bi but not attracted to all women or all men. I just feel more drawn to some x | |||
"It's complicated and I don't pretend to have a definitive answer. I am the sort of transvestite the OP describes. I have no desire to transition and consider myself a crossdressing male. I make this clear in my profile. I get lots of contact from males who identify as straight. I think that for many of these guys, the female aesthetic means they can categorise me in their minds as not male even if they accept I am not female. Almost a 3rd gender or even non gender. This allows them to convince themselves that playing with me is not playing with a guy, hence they can't be gay or even bi. There is also the fact that identifying as bi does restrict their chances with some 'real' women. Plus the fact that society is not as open and accepting as we would like to think." Thanks for sharing this. I am starting to think that it does seem to come down to stigma. It’s starting to seem that a woman being bi is ok. A guy being gay is ok but a guy being bi is somehow seen as not ok. If we can’t accept sexuality on fab what chance does the general population stand. | |||
"It’s complicated and I do pretend to have a simple answer. Most straight men can’t buy a T-shirt without the tacit approval of their mates. This also applies to anything more important. I’m so bored of it all. Fuck who you like. If you’re worried about being judged by a woman who (very probably) has no interest in you anyway go for it. Waste your life. Just don’t make your hettie-bro issues other peoples problems. " Love this x | |||
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"Yes, lots of messages from straight guys. They don't want to put bi on their profile as it will spoil their chances with women, that's their words when I ask, not mine. Fab straight is another thing and some direct me to their bi or gay profile on fab guys. I remind them that I am a 14 stone bloke in a wig and that usually cools them off. The ones that still want to meet after everything I have said are usually a good meet. Met one guy and he wasn't impressed, made me a coffee, I got changed and did make up and wig and he could not leave me alone, there is "straight" and straight until you put some high heels on. Not sure that answers your question, but its my experience here." I guess it’s different for many of them given the comments. Some are lying to improve their chance of getting women. Some are disillusioned and some don’t seem to think that if you don’t look at the cock it doesn’t exist. | |||
"Just had one right now! Probably as a result of them reading this as they are not local. Straight guy looking for tvs. I am a bloke in a wig!!! Lol. I love that you don’t mince your words. It makes total sense to me that a TV is a bloke who loves the feeling of wearing clothes etc that are traditionally seen as female. I think I can wear any bloody thing and so can you but when I wear trousers it doesn’t make me a bloke and when you wear stockings or heels or a dress it doesn’t make you a woman. That for me is the fundamental thing about being a TV. I also get that a TS is something different. That’s about someone wanting to be female. This is why I was specifically talking about TV. If a guy is fancying another guy surely that’s bi xxxx" I liked that comment. And what you are saying OP makes sense. I just can't imagine a straight man bending over and saying.. Go on have a go of that  | |||
"I dont worry about it, what someone else wants to do or how they label themselves isn't my business. " | |||
"Straight guys see feminine tgirls as women with a little extra and generally aren't interested in meeting other guys.Hope that makes sense." Thank you. | |||
"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you.
Although I prefer the term transwoman to TS and for all intents and purposes I am a woman hence my profile, I am technically TS also.
Get confusing doesn’t it lol
Would you say a man interested in me was straight, bi or gay? "Honestly I would view you differently than a TV as your situation is more complex. Some T’s women have a vagina and no penis so physically are female. I guess for me a guy who wants to have sex with another person who has a penis and no vagina is bi or gay or curious. | |||
"Do you think it’s because porn is front and centre in many single men’s lives, they can’t watch the same thing over and over surely, it’s the rabbit hole, with many avenues and many things to explore, also on here there some TS, pre op and TG that are quite simply gorgeous too, so why wouldn’t men’s tiny little brains just think oh fuck it I love giving anal and she’s got her heels on" I think this is truer than you know. A kind of ‘fuck it she looks good and I like anal and women don’t respond ‘ kind of mentality. | |||
"Do you think it’s because porn is front and centre in many single men’s lives, they can’t watch the same thing over and over surely, it’s the rabbit hole, with many avenues and many things to explore, also on here there some TS, pre op and TG that are quite simply gorgeous too, so why wouldn’t men’s tiny little brains just think oh fuck it I love giving anal and she’s got her heels on I think this is truer than you know. A kind of ‘fuck it she looks good and I like anal and women don’t respond ‘ kind of mentality. " I used to work with a bloke who to all intents and purposes was as ‘straight’ as could be but he once let out that he dressed as a woman, lace heels party dress and loved to get fucked by guys, he often would complain Monday about being sore but to him it was his little alter ego coming out to play, all the rest of the time at work wouldn’t even guess, it wasn’t a regular thing either it was almost like he just needed to do it, I’m sure Freud would blame his overbearing mother or suchlike and he was a happy bloke, just every now and again he likes to ‘go off the rails’ (his words not mine) he’s probably still doing it, tell you what he was an absolute demon with the ladies on a night out, he could charm the winter knickers off a nun :D | |||
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"Do you think it’s because porn is front and centre in many single men’s lives, they can’t watch the same thing over and over surely, it’s the rabbit hole, with many avenues and many things to explore, also on here there some TS, pre op and TG that are quite simply gorgeous too, so why wouldn’t men’s tiny little brains just think oh fuck it I love giving anal and she’s got her heels on I think this is truer than you know. A kind of ‘fuck it she looks good and I like anal and women don’t respond ‘ kind of mentality. I used to work with a bloke who to all intents and purposes was as ‘straight’ as could be but he once let out that he dressed as a woman, lace heels party dress and loved to get fucked by guys, he often would complain Monday about being sore but to him it was his little alter ego coming out to play, all the rest of the time at work wouldn’t even guess, it wasn’t a regular thing either it was almost like he just needed to do it, I’m sure Freud would blame his overbearing mother or suchlike and he was a happy bloke, just every now and again he likes to ‘go off the rails’ (his words not mine) he’s probably still doing it, tell you what he was an absolute demon with the ladies on a night out, he could charm the winter knickers off a nun :D" The last sentence made me laugh. | |||
"Could it be that they are looking for quite a vanilla BF GF type relationship and haven't come to terms with their Bisexuality? That was my best attempt at saying something sensible...need a lie down now." Well done for having a sensible thought whilst on fab. You deserve a lay down now | |||
"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you. "Because we like cock but not on men I don’t fancy men I couldn’t touch one But A very convincing trans is a massive turn on | |||
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"A couple of other threads have just resurfaced on the forum too which I think quite aptly describes the issue. Lots of men have described how they thought they were completely straight when they came here but upon being exposed to other “options” ( for want of a better word ) they’re now being to question that so are seeking out tv/ts to explore that side of them but aren’t yet ready to make the statement that they are bi. Seems perfectly reasonable to me " I agree I have put bicurious for the reasons you have said | |||
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"Hi. Please don’t take offence this is a genuine question. Many guys say they are looking for women or TVs or TS. yet their profile says they are straight. If they are meeting other men (in the case of meeting TVS) then how can they be straight? Can some of you guys who do this please explain it as o really do want to understand it. Thank you. "closet gays lol | |||
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"I met a guy who said he’d only have sex with women or bi guys. Had no issue being fucked up the arse by a bi guy, but wouldn’t meet a gay guy. Bizarre. " This one I found even more bizarre than my initial question. | |||
"Its a mental barrier for guys to describe themselves as gay or bi. Call it self denial. Like has been already mentioned, some have straight so they don't lose a opportunity with a woman. Some don't even have looking for TS/TV on their profile, but will message Tgirls. I actually prefer guys like that, as I usually think they are only interested in having sex with me like they would a female and not interested in my male parts, which am not into. But some then aay how they want to suck me, thats where I go, your definitely bi mate, lol... "What about the ones who are definitely not hi but want to share sucking a cock with their woman or are happy to suck a cock after it’s fucked a women? They say it’s not gay or bi because they dont do guys without a woman there. | |||
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