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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I just read this on another site, however have not cross checked it.
'If you should ever be forced [by a robber] to withdraw money from a cash machine, you can notify the police by entering your pin# in reverse.
For example, if your pin is 1234, then you should enter 4321.
The ATM system recognises your pin is backwards.
The ATM will still give you the money (Really?) you requested, but unknown to the robber the police will be informed (again really??)
All ATM's carry this emergency sequencer by law.
This information was recently broadcast on crimestoppers, however it is seldom used because people just do not know.'
So I do not know if this is accurate, and cash from the machine, for putting the pin in backwards  well if the pin is wrong, I dont think cash should be dispensed.
But in theory I think the idea has merit.
Unless your pin is 1221 or something similiar 
Now I am not brave enough to try this, and I cant see the police getting anywhere near the cash machine in time,
Would a possible idea be; if the cash machine were to shut down and keep the card, if a special pin was used. (For a limited time) However as a lot of people get the pin wrong anyway, this might not be a great idea  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" wouldn't it immediately invalidate thousands of pins that were genuinely the same as yours in reverse and vice versa?"
The pin is stored on a chip on the card. So the machine can easily make the distinction.
Otherwise, if I put my pin in wrong I could theoretically take money from other people's account. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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" wouldn't it immediately invalidate thousands of pins that were genuinely the same as yours in reverse and vice versa?"
well no as the system would recognise that you had put 'your' pin in backwards, so someone else having a pin, that was yours in reverse would have no effect on your card.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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" wouldn't it immediately invalidate thousands of pins that were genuinely the same as yours in reverse and vice versa?
The pin is stored on a chip on the card. So the machine can easily make the distinction.
Otherwise, if I put my pin in wrong I could theoretically take money from other people's account."
Besides, its only a 4 digit number which means there's only 9999 combinations, so many people share the same pin. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's a myth, check snopes
Someone did think of the idea but its not in practice. The banks have a few reasons why they rejected it, one being that being forced to type in your pin under duress, is stressful enough situation without having to think of your pin backwards whilst acting normal so as not to alert suspicion. |
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By *wanzMan
over a year ago
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"It's a myth, check snopes
Someone did think of the idea but its not in practice. The banks have a few reasons why they rejected it, one being that being forced to type in your pin under duress, is stressful enough situation without having to think of your pin backwards whilst acting normal so as not to alert suspicion. "
Its also not the best idea to argue with someone holding a weapon to your person ... If you mess up - they may turn nasty ...
NOT that I know what the solution is - just giving another reason why not to put it in incorrectly .. |
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ADT alarms do this. (Or used to). They had a "panic" feature. If you entered the PIN backwards (which supposes a non-palindromic PIN) it would disable the alarm, but alert the monitoring centre. If I recall correctly they had an option to make a phone call to the premises with a pre-arranged codeword you could give, if you really were being held hostage.
To return to the main theme, there's little incentive on banks to reduce fraud as long as they're not losing out by it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Actually if you dispute a cash withdrawal on your account, it is up to the bank to prove you did make it, and not vice versa.
Admitted they are terrible and will write to you saying, you need to prove you did not make the transaction.
The finiancial ombudsman over turned a massive 80%+ of complaints in the customers favour.
Yes I know I have been watching too many day time, consumer tv things but that I logged in my head, just in case  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Actually if you dispute a cash withdrawal on your account, it is up to the bank to prove you did make it, and not vice versa.
Admitted they are terrible and will write to you saying, you need to prove you did not make the transaction.
The finiancial ombudsman over turned a massive 80%+ of complaints in the customers favour.
Yes I know I have been watching too many day time, consumer tv things but that I logged in my head, just in case "
Amongst other things, this is one of the reasons ATM machines have built in cameras. |
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