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Seen the documentary on Channel 4 so I am not too sure.
He maybe 70 but he’s still a very scary individual I still think if he was in some sort of stressful situation, like a road rage incident, he could do some real damage to another person.
He should’ve been out a long time ago, but his behaviour in Prison is the reason he’s still incarcerated. I’m not too sure his behaviour outside of the walls is guaranteed to be safe for the general public. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He's too volatile to be out in society.
My Father in law was a Psychiatric Nurse at Rampton Hospital when Bronson was incarcerated there. He said he he was mostly placid but would turn in an instant over the slightest thing.
Father in Law used to play cards with him at times and he would say that he was jokey, mild mannered guy but he always said he shouldn't ever be let out in society |
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By *rder66Man
over a year ago
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There are many more dangerous people in todays society, who are left to cause serious harm through anti-social behavour withing cummunities. this results in servere anxiety and stress to hard working people. These people are left to continue causing harm without any remorse or action taken against them.
Let him die a free man, he has served his time.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He should be released. But with enough support.
I’m deeply uncomfortable about the state having the power to detain someone this long for a non capital crime. |
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By *lueFireCouple
over a year ago
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I was all for him being released....until I saw the documentary, his son just seems like a freeloader living of his dad's name and all the "fake news" stories just made me think "wanker" |
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"He should be released. But with enough support.
I’m deeply uncomfortable about the state having the power to detain someone this long for a non capital crime. "
And if he kills then presumably it could be argued that the State should have protected the victim.. |
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By *rtyIanMan
over a year ago
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"He should be released. But with enough support.
I’m deeply uncomfortable about the state having the power to detain someone this long for a non capital crime.
And if he kills then presumably it could be argued that the State should have protected the victim.. "
He’s never killed
He’s had the opportunity to but hasn’t
I’d have him as my neighbour over the nonces that get a minimal sentence in an open prison |
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"He should be released. But with enough support.
I’m deeply uncomfortable about the state having the power to detain someone this long for a non capital crime.
And if he kills then presumably it could be argued that the State should have protected the victim..
He’s never killed
He’s had the opportunity to but hasn’t
I’d have him as my neighbour over the nonces that get a minimal sentence in an open prison "
Good luck with that one.. |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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"I was all for him being released....until I saw the documentary, his son just seems like a freeloader living of his dad's name and all the "fake news" stories just made me think "wanker""
Yes, I only watched the first episode and felt the sane, it was weird.
Bit he showed no insight and no remorse and seemed to still revel in his notoriorty. That's not a combination for parole.
I feel sorry for the guy, the system has fucked him up good and proper. |
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Should he be released, not sure, with huge restrictions and close supervision maybe.
Would I mind him living in the flat above me? Sure why not, I don't think he would pose a threat to mine or my families safety. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A mates brother-in-law worked at Wakefield prison when Bronson/Salvador was there.
Because of how he was treated, they didn't have a single incident.
That fact he's spent longer in Solitary than any other prisoner, would contribute alot to his MH, as well as his PTSD
He admits he always felt is was it was a case of 'him against them'.
I think its fair to say he's institutionalised now.
Maybe a move to an open prison with gradual controlled release into the outside world to help him adjust.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He should be released. But with enough support.
I’m deeply uncomfortable about the state having the power to detain someone this long for a non capital crime.
And this is a great point."
And they wouldn't have to exercise the power to detain him if he stopped doing stupid shit. |
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By *ate_BMan
over a year ago
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Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago. |
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"Well we already have murderers, rapists and pedophiles walking our streets.
Is he that bad ?
Yep.. "
Is he Tom ? What has he done that would stop him from serving his sentence and then being released.
Don't bother telling me , I know his history.
He was NOT jailed for life.
He's done his sentence.
Let him out or incarcerate him until his death on a WouldaShouldaCouldaMight.
He's done his time ... let him out./ |
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"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago."
He has paid.
He has paid by the laws of this country
He has done the time that society gave him . |
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"Well we already have murderers, rapists and pedophiles walking our streets.
Is he that bad ?
Yep..
Is he Tom ? What has he done that would stop him from serving his sentence and then being released.
Don't bother telling me , I know his history.
He was NOT jailed for life.
He's done his sentence.
Let him out or incarcerate him until his death on a WouldaShouldaCouldaMight.
He's done his time ... let him out./"
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By *ate_BMan
over a year ago
London |
"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago.
He has paid.
He has paid by the laws of this country
He has done the time that society gave him ."
To all three of your points you’re right, but I’d like to add that if you reoffend you’re giving the parole board a reason to deny release and considering that good behaviour is seen as a means for early release, I don’t think he’s done himself many favours.
Maybe a move to a psychiatric unit that provides greater freedom would be a good start. |
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"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago.
He has paid.
He has paid by the laws of this country
He has done the time that society gave him .
To all three of your points you’re right, but I’d like to add that if you reoffend you’re giving the parole board a reason to deny release and considering that good behaviour is seen as a means for early release, I don’t think he’s done himself many favours.
Maybe a move to a psychiatric unit that provides greater freedom would be a good start."
If ? If ?
Did he re offend ? |
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I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all |
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all "
Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? |
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all
Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? "
Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public? |
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all
Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ?
Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public?"
No. |
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all
Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ?
Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public?
No. "
I wonder if their families do |
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By *ate_BMan
over a year ago
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"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago.
He has paid.
He has paid by the laws of this country
He has done the time that society gave him .
To all three of your points you’re right, but I’d like to add that if you reoffend you’re giving the parole board a reason to deny release and considering that good behaviour is seen as a means for early release, I don’t think he’s done himself many favours.
Maybe a move to a psychiatric unit that provides greater freedom would be a good start.
If ? If ?
Did he re offend ?"
Unfortunately for Mr Bronson, he did. Not sure how that compared to previous offences. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all
Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ?
Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public?"
Only when they’re not at work |
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all
Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ?
Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public?
Only when they’re not at work "
Same for police, firemen, soldiers, nurses, doctors, teachers, parole officers etc I assume then |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all
Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ?
Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public?
Only when they’re not at work
Same for police, firemen, soldiers, nurses, doctors, teachers, parole officers etc I assume then"
police and soldiers yes. Along with prison officers they’re taught control and restraint. They choose a career that comes unfortunately with violence risk |
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all
Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ?
Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public?
Only when they’re not at work
Same for police, firemen, soldiers, nurses, doctors, teachers, parole officers etc I assume then police and soldiers yes. Along with prison officers they’re taught control and restraint. They choose a career that comes unfortunately with violence risk "
Violent risk makes them not members of the public then, it's a view I suppose, I think farmers face the most risk at work but not violent risk I guess |
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all
Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ?
Yes, do you not consider prison wardens members of the public?
No.
I wonder if their families do "
Why don't you say something. |
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"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago.
He has paid.
He has paid by the laws of this country
He has done the time that society gave him .
To all three of your points you’re right, but I’d like to add that if you reoffend you’re giving the parole board a reason to deny release and considering that good behaviour is seen as a means for early release, I don’t think he’s done himself many favours.
Maybe a move to a psychiatric unit that provides greater freedom would be a good start.
If ? If ?
Did he re offend ?
Unfortunately for Mr Bronson, he did. Not sure how that compared to previous offences."
I read he was on a discretionary life sentence... I've not heard of that before so I am beginning to understand how they manage to keep things elastic. I really thought his time was served but evidently , not. |
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"Reminds me of the Shamima Begum situation. Some say she poses no threat but there’s always the question why/how did she end up in Syria? And Bronson’s case, if he behaved himself he would’ve been out a long time ago.
He has paid.
He has paid by the laws of this country
He has done the time that society gave him .
To all three of your points you’re right, but I’d like to add that if you reoffend you’re giving the parole board a reason to deny release and considering that good behaviour is seen as a means for early release, I don’t think he’s done himself many favours.
Maybe a move to a psychiatric unit that provides greater freedom would be a good start.
If ? If ?
Did he re offend ?
Unfortunately for Mr Bronson, he did. Not sure how that compared to previous offences.
I read he was on a discretionary life sentence... I've not heard of that before so I am beginning to understand how they manage to keep things elastic. I really thought his time was served but evidently , not."
Just for context I know a qualified psychiatric nurse who became a journalist for the nursing times, he interviewed Bronson and said he was never more scared for his safety, if he's deemed not safe by experts I'm going with their view |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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So the "son" in the documentary isn't his son. Its been a weird 6 year publicity stunt designed to raise Bronson's profile.
And there is your answer as to why he should never be released |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Well we already have murderers, rapists and pedophiles walking our streets.
Is he that bad ?
Yep.. "
I wouldn't say that. He's an old age pensioner.. how bad can he be ? |
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By *istalloverCouple
over a year ago
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I doubt he will be released.
1) He will become a TV / media celebrity overnight for the wrong reasons upon release.
glorifying crime like Dave Courtney and his cronies going on about being matey with the Krays and their shenanigans and having a good old larf about prison life and kicking people's heads in.
Unfortunately he will become a role model for some of today's youngsters too.
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"I don't think he should, still a very dangerous person and it's been shown from his behaviour he can't always control the violence, better for him and the public that he isn't released, unkind perhaps but for the better good for all
Why is it better for the public ? Has he ever harmed a member of the public ? "
Yes, a voluntary prison art teacher, he beat him and held him captive at knifepoint.
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