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By *oofy321 OP Man
over a year ago
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Just been sentenced to 19 months for flashing...this evil cunt is already serving a full life sentence..so I ask...was this extra sentence a waste of tax payers money? Or am I missing something? I understand the victims would want justice |
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"Just been sentenced to 19 months for flashing...this evil cunt is already serving a full life sentence..so I ask...was this extra sentence a waste of tax payers money? Or am I missing something? I understand the victims would want justice "
It's a separate offence and as such needs a separate sentence.
The System can't just say fuck it ..... and leave it undealt with. |
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"Just been sentenced to 19 months for flashing...this evil cunt is already serving a full life sentence..so I ask...was this extra sentence a waste of tax payers money? Or am I missing something? I understand the victims would want justice "
It's not a waste because he is unlikely to serve the whole life sentence. So, hopefully, whatever he does end up now serving will be longer. |
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By *oofy321 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Just been sentenced to 19 months for flashing...this evil cunt is already serving a full life sentence..so I ask...was this extra sentence a waste of tax payers money? Or am I missing something? I understand the victims would want justice
It's not a waste because he is unlikely to serve the whole life sentence. So, hopefully, whatever he does end up now serving will be longer."
People on full life sentences will die in prison |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just been sentenced to 19 months for flashing...this evil cunt is already serving a full life sentence..so I ask...was this extra sentence a waste of tax payers money? Or am I missing something? I understand the victims would want justice "
I agree. It all smacks now of 'playing to the gallery' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just been sentenced to 19 months for flashing...this evil cunt is already serving a full life sentence..so I ask...was this extra sentence a waste of tax payers money? Or am I missing something? I understand the victims would want justice
It's not a waste because he is unlikely to serve the whole life sentence. So, hopefully, whatever he does end up now serving will be longer.
People on full life sentences will die in prison "
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Imagine three sisters. One is a violent little fucker.
She punches your lights out. Then kicks your sister all around the garden.
You mum deals out a suitable punishment for kicking your sister around the garden.
You tell your mum about what she did to you and your mum says....... just leave it, she's been punished for what she did to your sister.
Would that be okay ? |
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It’s lip service but it’s a valuable lesson for the Met. (Possibly)
Justice for the victims as well. Which I think is very important considering the wider picture.
The whole case disgusts me she was just walking home.  |
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"Justice isn't only for the criminal it's for the victims of the crime and wider society"
Exactly this. As you said, OP, it’s closure for the victims.
But as Granny said, there are crimes recorded in the system and they need be written off with justification, or for someone ti be charged, tried and sentenced.
Granted it makes no difference to Couzens’ sentence (he will literally die in prison) but one system has to work for everyone. That applies equally to those not on full-life sentences. |
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"Justice isn't only for the criminal it's for the victims of the crime and wider society
But he's not being punished for this crime...when he dies he can't serve the extra sentence "
The victims have seen justice meted out for the crime commited against them though, which is partially the purpose of the judicial system. |
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"Justice isn't only for the criminal it's for the victims of the crime and wider society
But he's not being punished for this crime...when he dies he can't serve the extra sentence "
A great many sentences are served concurrently anyway. So, ostensibly, the subject isn’t punished for every crime. |
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"It's not a waste because he is unlikely to serve the whole life sentence. So, hopefully, whatever he does end up now serving will be longer.
People on full life sentences will die in prison "
Was he given a whole life tariff? |
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By *oofy321 OP Man
over a year ago
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"It's not a waste because he is unlikely to serve the whole life sentence. So, hopefully, whatever he does end up now serving will be longer.
People on full life sentences will die in prison
Was he given a whole life tariff?"
Yes,no parole |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"I don’t think it’s a waste of time.. Every crime should be accounted for and sentences given appropriately."
Agree with a hearing / crimes accounted for but sentencing part is a joke, they often serve them concurrently too. |
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By *.T.Man
over a year ago
Glasgow |
By securing a conviction, the victim can now get compensation?
Better than being told "he's banged up for life, no point in prosecuting him for a lesser crime". It isn't lesser for the victims. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How did he even get the job in the first place "
He got the job because he knew how to get through the process unfortunately.
It seems the New Met Commissioner is shaking the place up and ridding the force of all the evil serving within it. |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
"How did he even get the job in the first place "
Because Police Officers are drawn from society rather than made in The Police Officer Factory.
At the time he joined, he was either "Not A Bad Person," or he was "A Bad Person" who hadn't been caught and nobody knew he was "A Bad Person."
Think about your career or industry and think of the people that are unsuited to it. It's the same in every job.
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By *.T.Man
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"How did he even get the job in the first place
Because Police Officers are drawn from society rather than made in The Police Officer Factory.
At the time he joined, he was either "Not A Bad Person," or he was "A Bad Person" who hadn't been caught and nobody knew he was "A Bad Person."
Think about your career or industry and think of the people that are unsuited to it. It's the same in every job.
Gbat "
Harold Shipman and Harry Hill were both GP's. You can't blame a profession for someone being a cold blooded killer or shit comedian. *Turns to camera, raises eyebrow* |
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"It's not a waste because he is unlikely to serve the whole life sentence. So, hopefully, whatever he does end up now serving will be longer.
People on full life sentences will die in prison
Was he given a whole life tariff?
Yes,no parole "
Oh, that's better than I expected, tbh. |
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There's often a complaint that victims are not given their chance to see a perpetrator brought to book, in this case they have had their say and he's been dealt with..
Plus there's a case of misconduct in public office/ gross misconduct for the officers who failed in their duties to deal with the initial complaint which this conviction will have consequences.. |
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"How did he even get the job in the first place
Because Police Officers are drawn from society rather than made in The Police Officer Factory.
At the time he joined, he was either "Not A Bad Person," or he was "A Bad Person" who hadn't been caught and nobody knew he was "A Bad Person."
Think about your career or industry and think of the people that are unsuited to it. It's the same in every job.
Gbat "
I thought he was something like a 'guard' or boyguard , a heavy for a gvt office or similar and then transferred to the met ......
I don't think he joined up as a rookie and learned his profession as such ..
I'm going to check that out to see if I am just recalling bullshit |
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The officer joined the Kent Special Constabulary in 2002 and moved to the Civil Nuclear Constabulary in 2011. In September 2018, he transferred over to the Met Police.
Couzens served in a Safer Neighbourhood team, he was part of a response team in Bromley, and in February 2020 he was moved to the prestigious Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Command.
Weird Route..... |
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Lots of talk about had the police followed this up properly, he may not have gone on to kill Sarah.
As much as I’d wish this were true, even if they did, he’d of still went on and killed someone else, he had intentions of murdering. |
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By *hoirCouple
over a year ago
Clacton/Bury St. Edmunds |
"People on full life sentences will die in prison "
This isn't true anymore. Changes in law set by ECHR means they have to have a chance of release. They can still die in prison of course but the chance of release is set in law.
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Why waste tax payers money on keeping this evil piece of sh*te in nice warm prison, with three square meals a day. 
I think he should be publicly castrated on the centre spot at Wembley, with a blunt rusty blade, and left to bleed out. |
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"People on full life sentences will die in prison
This isn't true anymore. Changes in law set by ECHR means they have to have a chance of release. They can still die in prison of course but the chance of release is set in law.
C"
Not true. A few years ago statue was enabled to allow judges the ability to apply whole life sentences for particularly worthy cases. |
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"How did he even get the job in the first place "
Erm, because they forgot ask if he was a rapist and murderer at interview.
Or maybe, just maybe, he gained those particular proclivities after he was recruited  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just been sentenced to 19 months for flashing...this evil cunt is already serving a full life sentence..so I ask...was this extra sentence a waste of tax payers money? Or am I missing something? I understand the victims would want justice
It's not a waste because he is unlikely to serve the whole life sentence. So, hopefully, whatever he does end up now serving will be longer.
People on full life sentences will die in prison "
Not alway unfortunately. Budget cuts see prisoners eligible for parole all the time before release. |
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"Just been sentenced to 19 months for flashing...this evil cunt is already serving a full life sentence..so I ask...was this extra sentence a waste of tax payers money? Or am I missing something? I understand the victims would want justice
It's not a waste because he is unlikely to serve the whole life sentence. So, hopefully, whatever he does end up now serving will be longer.
People on full life sentences will die in prison
Not alway unfortunately. Budget cuts see prisoners eligible for parole all the time before release. "
This is true for those sentenced to ‘life’ in prison. That is usually 15-30 years. Those given whole-life sentences will never be eligible for parole. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The officer joined the Kent Special Constabulary in 2002 and moved to the Civil Nuclear Constabulary in 2011. In September 2018, he transferred over to the Met Police.
Couzens served in a Safer Neighbourhood team, he was part of a response team in Bromley, and in February 2020 he was moved to the prestigious Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Command.
Weird Route..... "
Not really. People who can't join a real police force often come through a pretend one like CNC or BTP. CNC would have meant that he was firearms trained when he joined the Met. Those skills are in great demand in most forces these days so it's highly likely any shortcomings were overlooked as he filled a need. Parliamentary and Diplomatic Command is not prestigious. they are pretty much gate guardians, which is what he would have done in CNC. |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
"Why waste tax payers money on keeping this evil piece of sh*te in nice warm prison, with three square meals a day.
I think he should be publicly castrated on the centre spot at Wembley, with a blunt rusty blade, and left to bleed out. "
This actually says a lot about you rather than him.
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"The officer joined the Kent Special Constabulary in 2002 and moved to the Civil Nuclear Constabulary in 2011. In September 2018, he transferred over to the Met Police.
Couzens served in a Safer Neighbourhood team, he was part of a response team in Bromley, and in February 2020 he was moved to the prestigious Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Command.
Weird Route.....
Not really. People who can't join a real police force often come through a pretend one like CNC or BTP. CNC would have meant that he was firearms trained when he joined the Met. Those skills are in great demand in most forces these days so it's highly likely any shortcomings were overlooked as he filled a need. Parliamentary and Diplomatic Command is not prestigious. they are pretty much gate guardians, which is what he would have done in CNC."
Which is what I said. But thanks for explaining it to me.
Weird route. |
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"Why waste tax payers money on keeping this evil piece of sh*te in nice warm prison, with three square meals a day.
I think he should be publicly castrated on the centre spot at Wembley, with a blunt rusty blade, and left to bleed out.
This actually says a lot about you rather than him.
Gbat "
I had the same reaction to that post.
People who imagine that shouting for public displays of slow death through painful violence of a sexual nature somehow makes them a 'good guy' should maybe consider how they represent themselves.
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" I had the same reaction to that post.
People who imagine that shouting for public displays of slow death through painful violence of a sexual nature somehow makes them a 'good guy' should maybe consider how they represent themselves.
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Oh, bless .
Another "do gooder" that will probably be appealing for the early release of rapists and murderers like Charles Bronson (no, not the actor) and Couzens to be released from prison early, because they've "served their time" and been good boys.
For me, IT'S NOT about sexual gratification or wanting to appear as a " good guy".
It's about this countries tax payers money being put to good use. Rather than wasting it on keeping scum in a warm environment with three meals a day, when honest law abiding citizens are living in squalor, hungry and cold.
Obviously where a death sentence is muted, there would have to be 110% proof of the crime committed and no chance of a wrongful conviction.
Oh, and for the record, I am a good guy.
I'm a widower that nursed my late partner for SEVEN years due to cancer.
I lookout for the 85yo lady next door, doing her DIY and shopping when she needs. And I regularly donate to my local hospice. |
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By *.T.Man
over a year ago
Glasgow |
" I had the same reaction to that post.
People who imagine that shouting for public displays of slow death through painful violence of a sexual nature somehow makes them a 'good guy' should maybe consider how they represent themselves.
Oh, bless .
Another "do gooder" that will probably be appealing for the early release of rapists and murderers like Charles Bronson (no, not the actor) and Couzens to be released from prison early, because they've "served their time" and been good boys.
For me, IT'S NOT about sexual gratification or wanting to appear as a " good guy".
It's about this countries tax payers money being put to good use. Rather than wasting it on keeping scum in a warm environment with three meals a day, when honest law abiding citizens are living in squalor, hungry and cold.
Obviously where a death sentence is muted, there would have to be 110% proof of the crime committed and no chance of a wrongful conviction.
Oh, and for the record, I am a good guy.
I'm a widower that nursed my late partner for SEVEN years due to cancer.
I lookout for the 85yo lady next door, doing her DIY and shopping when she needs. And I regularly donate to my local hospice. "
Charles Bronson is a nutter and has been convicted of attempted murder, but hasn't killed anyone. |
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I think it’s important for the victims to know that he’s been punished for what he did to them.
They are suffering enough with survivor guilt, given what he did to Sarah Everard. This is some way to put their minds at ease. |
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over a year ago
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Obviously where a death sentence is muted, there would have to be 110% proof of the crime committed and no chance of a wrongful conviction.
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How does that work? |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
Not all that North of North London |
" I had the same reaction to that post.
People who imagine that shouting for public displays of slow death through painful violence of a sexual nature somehow makes them a 'good guy' should maybe consider how they represent themselves.
Oh, bless .
Another "do gooder" that will probably be appealing for the early release of rapists and murderers like Charles Bronson (no, not the actor) and Couzens to be released from prison early, because they've "served their time" and been good boys.
For me, IT'S NOT about sexual gratification or wanting to appear as a " good guy".
It's about this countries tax payers money being put to good use. Rather than wasting it on keeping scum in a warm environment with three meals a day, when honest law abiding citizens are living in squalor, hungry and cold.
Obviously where a death sentence is muted, there would have to be 110% proof of the crime committed and no chance of a wrongful conviction.
Oh, and for the record, I am a good guy.
I'm a widower that nursed my late partner for SEVEN years due to cancer.
I lookout for the 85yo lady next door, doing her DIY and shopping when she needs. And I regularly donate to my local hospice. "
Have yiu considered moving to a country where brutal public executions are the norm?
Wuat you suggested is barbaric. Public executions including torture to entertain a bayong crowd havevjo place in a civilised society and nor do those who think this somehow represents justice |
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" Have yiu considered moving to a country where brutal public executions are the norm?
Wuat you suggested is barbaric. Public executions including torture to entertain a bayong crowd havevjo place in a civilised society and nor do those who think this somehow represents justice"
From your reply , I deduce that you're quite happy to live in "civilised society" that accepts brutal sexual attacks and murders as the norm. As long as it doesn't affect your family.
Perhaps if this country had the death penalty instead of a cosy prison life, it might deter people from committing such crimes
Try thinking about the families of the victims and what they might want. |
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By *.T.Man
over a year ago
Glasgow |
" Have yiu considered moving to a country where brutal public executions are the norm?
Wuat you suggested is barbaric. Public executions including torture to entertain a bayong crowd havevjo place in a civilised society and nor do those who think this somehow represents justice
From your reply , I deduce that you're quite happy to live in "civilised society" that accepts brutal sexual attacks and murders as the norm. As long as it doesn't affect your family.
Perhaps if this country had the death penalty instead of a cosy prison life, it might deter people from committing such crimes
Try thinking about the families of the victims and what they might want."
We had the death penalty. It didn't stop murderers.
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The purpose of this additional case is important. It shows that the net were culpable and enabling of this man’s evil. It demonstrated, through the inaction of the met, that this man felt invincible and above the law.
It demonstrates that if a “relatively minor” crime had been prosecuted, then a greater crime might not have been committed.
It’s an important message, letting people get away with the “small stuff” can lead to devastating consequences |
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By *ohn KanakaMan
over a year ago
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" Have yiu considered moving to a country where brutal public executions are the norm?
What you suggested is barbaric. Public executions including torture to entertain a baying crowd have no place in a civilised society and nor do those who think this somehow represents justice
From your reply , I deduce that you're quite happy to live in "civilised society" that accepts brutal sexual attacks and murders as the norm. As long as it doesn't affect your family.
Perhaps if this country had the death penalty instead of a cosy prison life, it might deter people from committing such crimes
Try thinking about the families of the victims and what they might want."
But you didn't argue for the death sentence. You argued he should be publicly castrated with a rusty blade and left to bleed out.
And that is sick.
Also I'd love to know how you deduced that "I'm quite happy to live in "civilised society" that accepts brutal sexual attacks and murders as the norm. As long as it doesn't affect your family". That's quite a leap |
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" I had the same reaction to that post.
People who imagine that shouting for public displays of slow death through painful violence of a sexual nature somehow makes them a 'good guy' should maybe consider how they represent themselves.
Oh, bless .
Another "do gooder" that will probably be appealing for the early release of rapists and murderers like Charles Bronson (no, not the actor) and Couzens to be released from prison early, because they've "served their time" and been good boys.
For me, IT'S NOT about sexual gratification or wanting to appear as a " good guy".
It's about this countries tax payers money being put to good use. Rather than wasting it on keeping scum in a warm environment with three meals a day, when honest law abiding citizens are living in squalor, hungry and cold.
Obviously where a death sentence is muted, there would have to be 110% proof of the crime committed and no chance of a wrongful conviction.
Oh, and for the record, I am a good guy.
I'm a widower that nursed my late partner for SEVEN years due to cancer.
I lookout for the 85yo lady next door, doing her DIY and shopping when she needs. And I regularly donate to my local hospice. "
I'd be quite willing to hear your views if they made sense.
Let me know when you start... |
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By *batMan
over a year ago
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" Perhaps if this country had the death penalty instead of a cosy prison life, it might deter people from committing such crimes
Try thinking about the families of the victims and what they might want."
If that were true, why does the US have a greater rate of homicide than the UK? It's a society so violent that they have to teach little children how to behave when murderers are running around their schools killing people.
You didn't even advocate the death penalty, you wanted a public mutilation. You are actually displaying the same tendencies as the people you want to see killed.
And how you ever reach the conclusion that being disgusted by your attitude somehow equates to accepting sex attacks and murders as the norm, well that's some leap of a nonsensical logic. It's simply not true.
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I used to live down south and was living in Balham at the time Sarah everard was abducted and murdered, and I swear Wayne couzens was either on fab, tinder, bumble or hinge, because I know for some unfortunate reason I matched with him or he messaged me on here. |
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"I used to live down south and was living in Balham at the time Sarah everard was abducted and murdered, and I swear Wayne couzens was either on fab, tinder, bumble or hinge, because I know for some unfortunate reason I matched with him or he messaged me on here."
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"I used to live down south and was living in Balham at the time Sarah everard was abducted and murdered, and I swear Wayne couzens was either on fab, tinder, bumble or hinge, because I know for some unfortunate reason I matched with him or he messaged me on here."
Glad you didn't get to suffer from him |
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