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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

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By *enrietteandSamCouple  over a year ago

Staffordshire

Other countries have Tesco too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Was the woman okay?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Other countries have Tesco too."

Other countries have better places to buy food

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By *ohn KanakaMan  over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

"

Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Was the woman okay? "

I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone.

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By *xperimentalswitchMan  over a year ago

West Midlands

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So it’s the fault of the state / NHS / Ambulance that an old lady near where you live was left laying on the ground for 10 hours?

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman  over a year ago

Carlisle usually


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

"

Well she has terrible neighbours

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By *xperimentalswitchMan  over a year ago

West Midlands

Is this post secretly sponsored by Asda. Trying to besmirch poor tesco.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories.

"

I don't know anything about politics, but you are probably right.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene "

Since heard she has a broken hip

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Is this post secretly sponsored by Asda. Trying to besmirch poor tesco. "

Nope

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene

Since heard she has a broken hip "

So their call not to move her was right….

Except of course she could have died from internal bleeding, hypothermia and shock while she was waiting ….

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By *ohn KanakaMan  over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene

Since heard she has a broken hip "

Fair chance she'll die. That's the harsh reality.

Medically anything over an hour is considered a 'long lie', 10 hours is serious.

She's possibly got pressure sores and is at high risk of hypothermia, pneumonia and rhabdomilitis. She'll definitely be dehydrated. Any of thise can prive fatal let alone all of them. They might decide she's too weak too operate and if they do her recovery will be impacted potentially fatally.

Lots of elderly people die post op of fractured hips leaving someone on the floor for 10 hours massively increases the liklihood.

A government that has destroyed the NHS to the extent there is not enough staff to respond to a call like this have blood on their hands.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

The poor woman

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By *ornucopiaMan  over a year ago

Bexley

The supermarket* near me might do well to get rid of their wet fish counter. It is not a good advert for anything, least of all the lacklustre fish on display.

*I will leave you to guess which one we are talking about!

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By *phroditeWoman  over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

I actually do not think that there is anything wrong as such with this country but we have a two party system that does not give much choice.

The reason I am saying this is that I have met so many decent people over the years from all walks of life. People who will go out of their way to help somebody in need, people who are genuinely charitable as well. Then there is that wonderful sense of humour, that prevails in times of adversity to name but a couple of things.

I really do believe it is not the country or its people but an outdated, unfair system that makes it appear a bad place.

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By *etcplCouple  over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

Its next to impossible to find Catherine wheels in the shops!

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By *nabelle21Woman  over a year ago

B38


"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene

Since heard she has a broken hip

Fair chance she'll die. That's the harsh reality.

Medically anything over an hour is considered a 'long lie', 10 hours is serious.

She's possibly got pressure sores and is at high risk of hypothermia, pneumonia and rhabdomilitis. She'll definitely be dehydrated. Any of thise can prive fatal let alone all of them. They might decide she's too weak too operate and if they do her recovery will be impacted potentially fatally.

Lots of elderly people die post op of fractured hips leaving someone on the floor for 10 hours massively increases the liklihood.

A government that has destroyed the NHS to the extent there is not enough staff to respond to a call like this have blood on their hands.

"

Wow....I hope not but whe. You out it like that...that's heartbreaking.

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By *iscofansMan  over a year ago

WOMBOURNE

Too long to wait. It has been like this all year and it is scary. I dread been ill.

Tesco announced that some time ago. I think you will find that will happen all over because of the price of energy. Every time you into a store each week loads of items go up 25p. It is dreadful. Priced out now really.

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By *ack 500Man  over a year ago

stafford

It’s awful news about the hot food counters at tesco

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By *ornucopiaMan  over a year ago

Bexley

I think this country started going down the pan once people started referring to the ground, the pavement or the street surface as 'the floor' (pronounced flaw-er).

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"So it’s the fault of the state / NHS / Ambulance that an old lady near where you live was left laying on the ground for 10 hours? "

No. Tesco... it's because of Tesco

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Its next to impossible to find Catherine wheels in the shops! "

You can get those liquorice ones with the torpedo in the middle tho ....... lush

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple  over a year ago

Cumbria

I can not believe someone would not take the lady to hospital in there car ffs I would 100% be late to somewhere for that...

Supermarkets are crap now but youngsters will not support small shops so we are all fucked with rubbish food

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By *ohn KanakaMan  over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"I can not believe someone would not take the lady to hospital in there car ffs I would 100% be late to somewhere for that...

Supermarkets are crap now but youngsters will not support small shops so we are all fucked with rubbish food "

You'd lift someone with a broken hip into your car and drive them to hospital? As well intentioned as that is, there's a very good reason why people simply can't do that, namely the lady would be inexcruciating pain

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"I can not believe someone would not take the lady to hospital in there car ffs I would 100% be late to somewhere for that...

Supermarkets are crap now but youngsters will not support small shops so we are all fucked with rubbish food "

It can be very dangerous to move someone with a hip/femur fracture. Not to mention excruciatingly painful for the person. The advice from healthcare professionals is don't try to move someone who might have a pelvic, hip/femur or spinal fracture. It's not exactly safe moving someone with a smaller bone broken, especially if it's a complex or open fracture. We should have the right emergency healthcare in place.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple  over a year ago

Cumbria


"I can not believe someone would not take the lady to hospital in there car ffs I would 100% be late to somewhere for that...

Supermarkets are crap now but youngsters will not support small shops so we are all fucked with rubbish food

You'd lift someone with a broken hip into your car and drive them to hospital? As well intentioned as that is, there's a very good reason why people simply can't do that, namely the lady would be inexcruciating pain "

Well clearly I would assess the patient didn't think it would be that bad because of the wait.

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By *ohn KanakaMan  over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene

Since heard she has a broken hip

Fair chance she'll die. That's the harsh reality.

Medically anything over an hour is considered a 'long lie', 10 hours is serious.

She's possibly got pressure sores and is at high risk of hypothermia, pneumonia and rhabdomilitis. She'll definitely be dehydrated. Any of thise can prive fatal let alone all of them. They might decide she's too weak too operate and if they do her recovery will be impacted potentially fatally.

Lots of elderly people die post op of fractured hips leaving someone on the floor for 10 hours massively increases the liklihood.

A government that has destroyed the NHS to the extent there is not enough staff to respond to a call like this have blood on their hands.

Wow....I hope not but whe. You out it like that...that's heartbreaking."

It's brutal. But that is the reality and no one is sharing it.

The death would require an inquest but you can almost guarantee that unless the family kick up a huge fuss the Coroner will ignore the delay and record the death as being due to post op complications not the delay. (Honourable mention to the Coroner for Norfolk has had the courage to write to NHS England with a prevention of future deaths report linked to ambulance delays, but that can be ignored and is also very much the exception)

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By *tooveMan  over a year ago

belfast


"I think this country started going down the pan once people started referring to the ground, the pavement or the street surface as 'the floor' (pronounced flaw-er)."

What?

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By *ornucopiaMan  over a year ago

Bexley


"I think this country started going down the pan once people started referring to the ground, the pavement or the street surface as 'the floor' (pronounced flaw-er).

What?"

Even worse when nobody understands what I said!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

"

Very sad state of affairs - similar situation on my mums road in Dec. The lady had broken something and was lying on the pavement for hours. The neighbours covered her with coats and blankets, but it must still have been very uncomfortable.

I hope 'your' lady has a positive outcome x

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By *tephanjMan  over a year ago

Kettering

At present everything is to be blamed on our government. Between them they have messed up everything from Brexit to inflation. And they have no idea how to fix it. In a famous line from dad's army we are all doomed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

"

I'm not sad about this

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By *nabelle21Woman  over a year ago

B38


"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene

Since heard she has a broken hip

Fair chance she'll die. That's the harsh reality.

Medically anything over an hour is considered a 'long lie', 10 hours is serious.

She's possibly got pressure sores and is at high risk of hypothermia, pneumonia and rhabdomilitis. She'll definitely be dehydrated. Any of thise can prive fatal let alone all of them. They might decide she's too weak too operate and if they do her recovery will be impacted potentially fatally.

Lots of elderly people die post op of fractured hips leaving someone on the floor for 10 hours massively increases the liklihood.

A government that has destroyed the NHS to the extent there is not enough staff to respond to a call like this have blood on their hands.

Wow....I hope not but whe. You out it like that...that's heartbreaking.

It's brutal. But that is the reality and no one is sharing it.

The death would require an inquest but you can almost guarantee that unless the family kick up a huge fuss the Coroner will ignore the delay and record the death as being due to post op complications not the delay. (Honourable mention to the Coroner for Norfolk has had the courage to write to NHS England with a prevention of future deaths report linked to ambulance delays, but that can be ignored and is also very much the exception)"

Gait play indeed to the coroner...I can imagine the kind of consequences that can be felt when going against the grain.

It is indeed brutal and outrageous... that poor poor woman and her family. For surely they will all now pay the price.

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By *nabelle21Woman  over a year ago

B38

*Fair*

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories.

"

The OP lives in Wales. The NHS is run by Labour in Wales.

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By *etcplCouple  over a year ago

Gapping Fanny


"Its next to impossible to find Catherine wheels in the shops!

You can get those liquorice ones with the torpedo in the middle tho ....... lush"

I can’t find them anywhere.

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By *ohn KanakaMan  over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories.

The OP lives in Wales. The NHS is run by Labour in Wales. "

Sorry, i have no idea where 'Pretty City' is.

While true that the NHS is 'ran by Labour' due to devolution, it is still funded by our Conservative government and as the issue is clearly chronic levels of underfunding across the NHS in England, Scotland and Wales I'd argue that the blame still lies with the Tory Party.

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By *mma29Couple  over a year ago

wirral

As if she was left that long, outrageous! Surely some neighbours could have made a makeshift splint out of pillows and scarves at worst and done a team lift to get her inside and warm once it was ascertained no serious head or neck injuries were sustained...hypothermia is a bigger concern in this weather!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"As if she was left that long, outrageous! Surely some neighbours could have made a makeshift splint out of pillows and scarves at worst and done a team lift to get her inside and warm once it was ascertained no serious head or neck injuries were sustained...hypothermia is a bigger concern in this weather!"

Sadly she would be dead from massive blood loss a lot quicker than from hypothermia if any breaks compromised an artery as she was moved by well meaning but not qualified people..

Whilst it's far too long to have to wait regardless of age or injury etc it sounds like she did get to hospital alive..

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By *mma29Couple  over a year ago

wirral


"As if she was left that long, outrageous! Surely some neighbours could have made a makeshift splint out of pillows and scarves at worst and done a team lift to get her inside and warm once it was ascertained no serious head or neck injuries were sustained...hypothermia is a bigger concern in this weather!

Sadly she would be dead from massive blood loss a lot quicker than from hypothermia if any breaks compromised an artery as she was moved by well meaning but not qualified people..

Whilst it's far too long to have to wait regardless of age or injury etc it sounds like she did get to hospital alive.."

That's a rare occurrence with hip fractures and I doubt she'd sit perfectly still in one position all day anyway so it's what I would look to do but then I am qualified so i understand why others might be reluctant

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"As if she was left that long, outrageous! Surely some neighbours could have made a makeshift splint out of pillows and scarves at worst and done a team lift to get her inside and warm once it was ascertained no serious head or neck injuries were sustained...hypothermia is a bigger concern in this weather!

Sadly she would be dead from massive blood loss a lot quicker than from hypothermia if any breaks compromised an artery as she was moved by well meaning but not qualified people..

Whilst it's far too long to have to wait regardless of age or injury etc it sounds like she did get to hospital alive..

That's a rare occurrence with hip fractures and I doubt she'd sit perfectly still in one position all day anyway so it's what I would look to do but then I am qualified so i understand why others might be reluctant "

Might not only be her hip though so until a professional has done a full initial survey I wouldn't move her if she's not in immediate risk of further injury, especially as she's elderly ..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well it would be a longer list than "what's right"

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By *ornucopiaMan  over a year ago

Bexley

I've had a pneumonia jab in anticipation of my inevitable hip breaking fall.

Normal sequence of events is:

Get old. Fall over. Break hip. Go to Hospital. Get pneumonia. Leave hospital in your box.

Removing pneumonia from the list could be a life saver.

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By *arkus1812Man  over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

I find it appalling that this Government can find the money to continue to build Cameron's train set aka HS2 but cannot find the money to prevent the NHS from collapsing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

"

Try your local Butcher/veg shop

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

People who vote for the same crap and then moan about it later mostly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

All comes down to politics, media manipulation and the easily led.

I can't see that changing anytime soon.

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By *usie pTV/TS  over a year ago

taunton

I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment.

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By *ornLordMan  over a year ago

Wiltshire and London


"I find it appalling that this Government can find the money to continue to build Cameron's train set aka HS2 but cannot find the money to prevent the NHS from collapsing. "

The money's there alright when they want to find it - but they only want to find it when it's a get rich quick scheme for them or their mates.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"All comes down to politics, media manipulation and the easily led.

I can't see that changing anytime soon."

100% the powers and media view is like docile domesticated animals!

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By *omRachCouple  over a year ago

Wirral


"Is this post secretly sponsored by Asda. Trying to besmirch poor tesco. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment."

My boss at the time purchased a tvr car with his seiss grant.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What's ambulance waiting times got to do with Tesco?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

That is so sad and just one case. This country is in such a mess

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment."

The op is about paramedics and a Supermarket!!

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By *ingu and The ApeCouple  over a year ago

The Igloo


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

"

Easy answer, ambo, poloce and fire are understaffed under paid and badly equipped. Same for hospitals. As for companies like Tesco, only want to make fast easy profit and that’s it.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment.

The op is about paramedics and a Supermarket!! "

Those darn paramedics and retail workers turning up all through the pandemic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment.

My boss at the time purchased a tvr car with his seiss grant."

Sshhh, not supposed to mention that.

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By *arkus1812Man  over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment.

My boss at the time purchased a tvr car with his seiss grant."

Your boss has a poor choice of cars, I had a TVR a few years ago and it lived up to its name Trouble Very Regularly many times.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment.

The op is about paramedics and a Supermarket!!

Those darn paramedics and retail workers turning up all through the pandemic "

Unbelievable

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By *ealitybitesMan  over a year ago

Belfast


"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment."

I was one of those who got paid 80 percent for staying at home.

It was the last thing I wanted to do and I actually lost my job for the first time in my life as a direct result but I understood why it had to happen.

I also know many people who worked throughout lockdown and have changed jobs since because they couldn't take the relentless stress.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The other week my neighbour fell down his stairs. We went to help, but an ambulance turned up about 10 minutes later. Another turned up a few minutes after that. HEMS was also activated, but was stood down en-route by the first crew. We live in England, where we have to pay for prescriptions and hospital parking. The OP lives in Wales, where the NHS is run by Labour. No doubt the poor woman will get free painkillers, and her relatives will get free parking when they visit her in hospital, but I'd rather have an ambulance turn up in good time to an accident. In these times when it's hard for everyone across the UK, maybe the Welsh government should re-think its priorities.

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By *ohn KanakaMan  over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"The other week my neighbour fell down his stairs. We went to help, but an ambulance turned up about 10 minutes later. Another turned up a few minutes after that. HEMS was also activated, but was stood down en-route by the first crew. We live in England, where we have to pay for prescriptions and hospital parking. The OP lives in Wales, where the NHS is run by Labour. No doubt the poor woman will get free painkillers, and her relatives will get free parking when they visit her in hospital, but I'd rather have an ambulance turn up in good time to an accident. In these times when it's hard for everyone across the UK, maybe the Welsh government should re-think its priorities."

You do know that there are huge delays with ambulances in England too?

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By *TG3Man  over a year ago

Dorchester


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

"

its the rise in the cost of power thats caused it i imagine

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Was is a big Tesco or little Tesco ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"The other week my neighbour fell down his stairs. We went to help, but an ambulance turned up about 10 minutes later. Another turned up a few minutes after that. HEMS was also activated, but was stood down en-route by the first crew. We live in England, where we have to pay for prescriptions and hospital parking. The OP lives in Wales, where the NHS is run by Labour. No doubt the poor woman will get free painkillers, and her relatives will get free parking when they visit her in hospital, but I'd rather have an ambulance turn up in good time to an accident. In these times when it's hard for everyone across the UK, maybe the Welsh government should re-think its priorities."

The last time I visited a hospital in Wales I had to pay for parking

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Was is a big Tesco or little Tesco ? "

big one.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The other week my neighbour fell down his stairs. We went to help, but an ambulance turned up about 10 minutes later. Another turned up a few minutes after that. HEMS was also activated, but was stood down en-route by the first crew. We live in England, where we have to pay for prescriptions and hospital parking. The OP lives in Wales, where the NHS is run by Labour. No doubt the poor woman will get free painkillers, and her relatives will get free parking when they visit her in hospital, but I'd rather have an ambulance turn up in good time to an accident. In these times when it's hard for everyone across the UK, maybe the Welsh government should re-think its priorities.

You do know that there are huge delays with ambulances in England too? "

Yep my local A & E have declared critical incidents a few times recently. Ambulances are queuing up outside.

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By *TG3Man  over a year ago

Dorchester

If you can read this message pull back cunt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Was the woman okay?

I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone."

The country would be in the same state no matter who was in charge.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

One of the advantages of being old is that I know when politicians and the media are spinning bullshit. The NHS has been struggling since the mid 80s to my knowledge because I regularly saw queues of ambulances outside A&E back then, plus my father was a senior ambulance officer. It’s not a new phenomenon and every government since the 70’s has had a hand in it. They are all self serving tossers. The media just hypes everything up because it makes great news.

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By *ohn KanakaMan  over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"Was the woman okay?

I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone.

The country would be in the same state no matter who was in charge. "

I dint think that's true. Truss cost us billions in a matter of days, Johnson, lied ahd partied throughout covid while the government spent billions on a useless track and trace system and in contracts to their mates fir non existent PPE. We are paying far more for our utilities than the rest of Europe while utilities companues record record profits, brexit was sold to is on lies and is an unmitigated disaster that has damaged the economy and brought no tangible benefits. The public sector is bareky finctioning after 12 years of austerity has crippled it, the police are at breaking pount, the NHS is collapsing around us... I could go on but I think my point is made, I'd argue, almost anyone else been in charge over the last 13 years would have been less disastrous!

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By *ig_time_CharlieMan  over a year ago

Cambridge and London

Slightly off topic here but part of the problem with the country is that utility companies, train and bus companies, in fact nearly every big organisation is that they are either foreign owned or venture capitalist owned.

Because of that, any profits go overseas or to shareholders and there is little incentive to reinvest.

Because of this many services that we are provided with or customers of are second rate and not good enough.

The train operators spend more money servicing their debt than they do on maintenance, how scary is that?

Theres a cost of living crisis partly brought about because we are so reliant on other countries providing our food and energy, people can't get by on what they have, the roads are full of potholes, everyone is on strike.

I don't know who to blame but the Tories have been in power for over 10 years and things have just got worse and worse.

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By *dventurous biMan  over a year ago

tesside


"Was the woman okay?

I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone.

The country would be in the same state no matter who was in charge.

I dint think that's true. Truss cost us billions in a matter of days, Johnson, lied ahd partied throughout covid while the government spent billions on a useless track and trace system and in contracts to their mates fir non existent PPE. We are paying far more for our utilities than the rest of Europe while utilities companues record record profits, brexit was sold to is on lies and is an unmitigated disaster that has damaged the economy and brought no tangible benefits. The public sector is bareky finctioning after 12 years of austerity has crippled it, the police are at breaking pount, the NHS is collapsing around us... I could go on but I think my point is made, I'd argue, almost anyone else been in charge over the last 13 years would have been less disastrous!"

When you say ‘almost anyone else’ would you include Corbyn in that category? Or Dianne Abbott?

Seriously?

How about if Nick Clegg had done a deal with Milliband? Do you think a Lib/Lab coalition could have dug us out of the economic mire post banking collapse?

Maybe your ‘anyone else’ would be Eddie Izzard and Stephen Fry?

‘Almost anyone else’!!! PSML

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Slightly off topic here but part of the problem with the country is that utility companies, train and bus companies, in fact nearly every big organisation is that they are either foreign owned or venture capitalist owned.

Because of that, any profits go overseas or to shareholders and there is little incentive to reinvest.

Because of this many services that we are provided with or customers of are second rate and not good enough.

The train operators spend more money servicing their debt than they do on maintenance, how scary is that?

Theres a cost of living crisis partly brought about because we are so reliant on other countries providing our food and energy, people can't get by on what they have, the roads are full of potholes, everyone is on strike.

I don't know who to blame but the Tories have been in power for over 10 years and things have just got worse and worse. "

You know the real problem with this country (particularly since Brexit, but to a degree way before it) isn’t the complete utter shit leadership you have , it’s the even worse followship.

Citizens of the UK are utterly clueless who they are or what they want anymore, so any idiot like bj and Hancock can become a politician now and even pm if they try hard enough and cheat enough

Good luck sorting that one out

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

I mean Hancock ffs, people somewhere must have actually voted for him. Who are they ? These are the ones to blame , take away thier voting rights and lock them up

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Was the woman okay?

I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone.

The country would be in the same state no matter who was in charge.

I dint think that's true. Truss cost us billions in a matter of days, Johnson, lied ahd partied throughout covid while the government spent billions on a useless track and trace system and in contracts to their mates fir non existent PPE. We are paying far more for our utilities than the rest of Europe while utilities companues record record profits, brexit was sold to is on lies and is an unmitigated disaster that has damaged the economy and brought no tangible benefits. The public sector is bareky finctioning after 12 years of austerity has crippled it, the police are at breaking pount, the NHS is collapsing around us... I could go on but I think my point is made, I'd argue, almost anyone else been in charge over the last 13 years would have been less disastrous!

When you say ‘almost anyone else’ would you include Corbyn in that category? Or Dianne Abbott?

Seriously?

How about if Nick Clegg had done a deal with Milliband? Do you think a Lib/Lab coalition could have dug us out of the economic mire post banking collapse?

Maybe your ‘anyone else’ would be Eddie Izzard and Stephen Fry?

‘Almost anyone else’!!! PSML"

Yes I would include Corbyn in that category. He would have been a great leader for this country and actually cared about the welfare of all of us. If people actually did their own research instead of quoting bbc headlines then they would think that too. If he was actually as bad as people made out, why did the media come after him so hard? What was they scared of? A world of capitalism collapsing around them, that's what.

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By *ohn KanakaMan  over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"Was the woman okay?

I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone.

The country would be in the same state no matter who was in charge.

I dint think that's true. Truss cost us billions in a matter of days, Johnson, lied ahd partied throughout covid while the government spent billions on a useless track and trace system and in contracts to their mates fir non existent PPE. We are paying far more for our utilities than the rest of Europe while utilities companues record record profits, brexit was sold to is on lies and is an unmitigated disaster that has damaged the economy and brought no tangible benefits. The public sector is bareky finctioning after 12 years of austerity has crippled it, the police are at breaking pount, the NHS is collapsing around us... I could go on but I think my point is made, I'd argue, almost anyone else been in charge over the last 13 years would have been less disastrous!

When you say ‘almost anyone else’ would you include Corbyn in that category? Or Dianne Abbott?

Seriously?

How about if Nick Clegg had done a deal with Milliband? Do you think a Lib/Lab coalition could have dug us out of the economic mire post banking collapse?

Maybe your ‘anyone else’ would be Eddie Izzard and Stephen Fry?

‘Almost anyone else’!!! PSML"

I think when we have consecutively worse governments for the last 12 years and given the utterly disastrous situation we are in now, it's whatifism at it's worst to suggest others would have been worse.

Would corbyn and Abbott have cost the country billions in a matter if days? Well never know but its unlikely isn't it?

Has any other government won with a majority that Johnson had (which was enough to pretty much guarantee them at least the next GE, potentially the next 2 or 3) for 3 years later to be performing so badly 3 years later thst front benchers are quitting politics to save face and others are hunting for ever rarer safe seats? That is unprecedented, nit just in Britain but globally.

The banking collapse was global yet how we reacted was again arguably the weakest (on other countries people went to prison, we've just reversed the cap on bonuses) and our economy has been slower to recover. So again its massive whstifism to suggest it may havevbeen worse, when nowhere else anywhere in the world responded worse.

The inability to hold politicians respinsonsible for their failings is a huge part of the problem we find ourselves in. How many prime ministers have we had in the last year? And the last 12 years, and how many of them resigned?

Non of this is normal, it's not happening anywhere else in the world, who else do you blame other than the party that have been in power fir 12 years and overseen this chaos

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By *ohn heaneyMan  over a year ago

kildare

The country is currently 2000 ambulance drivers medics short because of low wages being offered

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By *usie pTV/TS  over a year ago

taunton

How much is the wage.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories.

"

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"How much is the wage."

There's no such thing as just an ambulance driver. But emergency care assistants, who work alongside paramedics and will drive while the more highly qualified paramedic attends to the patient, start on £21,730.

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By *ellhungvweMan  over a year ago

Cheltenham

It is amusing that there is currently a thread about how the country is going down hill …. in the Irish section.

Is it a forum requirement that every country has people who think it is fucked?

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By *issalignedTV/TS  over a year ago

London

I guess the OP will have to find a batter plaice to buy fish

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By *ainbows_can_be_metal_tooCouple  over a year ago

Darlington


"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene

Since heard she has a broken hip

Fair chance she'll die. That's the harsh reality.

Medically anything over an hour is considered a 'long lie', 10 hours is serious.

She's possibly got pressure sores and is at high risk of hypothermia, pneumonia and rhabdomilitis. She'll definitely be dehydrated. Any of thise can prive fatal let alone all of them. They might decide she's too weak too operate and if they do her recovery will be impacted potentially fatally.

Lots of elderly people die post op of fractured hips leaving someone on the floor for 10 hours massively increases the liklihood.

A government that has destroyed the NHS to the extent there is not enough staff to respond to a call like this have blood on their hands.

"

my nana had a fall in her bathroom and broke her hip.

Just like you mentioned they said that operating would be too risky for her. Fortunately she's a tough old woman and still going.

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By *ainbows_can_be_metal_tooCouple  over a year ago

Darlington


"Slightly off topic here but part of the problem with the country is that utility companies, train and bus companies, in fact nearly every big organisation is that they are either foreign owned or venture capitalist owned.

Because of that, any profits go overseas or to shareholders and there is little incentive to reinvest.

Because of this many services that we are provided with or customers of are second rate and not good enough.

The train operators spend more money servicing their debt than they do on maintenance, how scary is that?

Theres a cost of living crisis partly brought about because we are so reliant on other countries providing our food and energy, people can't get by on what they have, the roads are full of potholes, everyone is on strike.

I don't know who to blame but the Tories have been in power for over 10 years and things have just got worse and worse.

You know the real problem with this country (particularly since Brexit, but to a degree way before it) isn’t the complete utter shit leadership you have , it’s the even worse followship.

Citizens of the UK are utterly clueless who they are or what they want anymore, so any idiot like bj and Hancock can become a politician now and even pm if they try hard enough and cheat enough

Good luck sorting that one out "

I don't think cheat would be the right word but they do know how to play the media into thinking that they are bumbling morons while preserving their own self interests.

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By *uksungCouple  over a year ago

wednesbury

In my opinion we ate no longer a 1st rate country. I e been to numerous third world countries and war torn countries (rebuilt)where they have better health care much better roads better public transport and generally safer and more picturesque places. Now I'm not saying all are like this but when you compare England to some we are now a dogs shit hole

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By *ellhungvweMan  over a year ago

Cheltenham


"In my opinion we ate no longer a 1st rate country. I e been to numerous third world countries and war torn countries (rebuilt)where they have better health care much better roads better public transport and generally safer and more picturesque places. Now I'm not saying all are like this but when you compare England to some we are now a dogs shit hole"

Really? Every war torn country I have been to in Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia is nothing but a complete shithole. Most of those places _might_ have a (barely) functioning hospital in the capital but else where in the country you are pretty much on your own.

There is also _no_ way these places are safer than here - in most of these places gang r*pe, extortion and k*dnapping are par for the course.

We have issues (as does pretty much every country) but I would much rather live here than the vast majority of the world for basic health and safety reasons.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Country is fucked and it is getting fucked up more and more day by day by a combination of fuck ups.

I could go on and on.. however I think the term fucked pretty much sums it up.

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By *usie pTV/TS  over a year ago

taunton

We the citizens make the country

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By *aitonelMan  over a year ago

Away for Christmas

"Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope"

Trade out the word American for country of relevance and there you have your answer.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Country is fucked and it is getting fucked up more and more day by day by a combination of fuck ups.

I could go on and on.. however I think the term fucked pretty much sums it up. "

SNAFU

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Slightly off topic here but part of the problem with the country is that utility companies, train and bus companies, in fact nearly every big organisation is that they are either foreign owned or venture capitalist owned.

Because of that, any profits go overseas or to shareholders and there is little incentive to reinvest.

Because of this many services that we are provided with or customers of are second rate and not good enough.

The train operators spend more money servicing their debt than they do on maintenance, how scary is that?

Theres a cost of living crisis partly brought about because we are so reliant on other countries providing our food and energy, people can't get by on what they have, the roads are full of potholes, everyone is on strike.

I don't know who to blame but the Tories have been in power for over 10 years and things have just got worse and worse.

You know the real problem with this country (particularly since Brexit, but to a degree way before it) isn’t the complete utter shit leadership you have , it’s the even worse followship.

Citizens of the UK are utterly clueless who they are or what they want anymore, so any idiot like bj and Hancock can become a politician now and even pm if they try hard enough and cheat enough

Good luck sorting that one out

I don't think cheat would be the right word but they do know how to play the media into thinking that they are bumbling morons while preserving their own self interests.

"

By cheat I mean pretending they are public servants when it’s just a tactical move for growing those business.

Hancock’s and many others stint as an MP is similar to a year backpacking - a bit wider experience, build your contacts, have a break and then get back to business a bit wiser and better connected

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By *rHotNottsMan  over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"In my opinion we ate no longer a 1st rate country. I e been to numerous third world countries and war torn countries (rebuilt)where they have better health care much better roads better public transport and generally safer and more picturesque places. Now I'm not saying all are like this but when you compare England to some we are now a dogs shit hole

Really? Every war torn country I have been to in Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia is nothing but a complete shithole. Most of those places _might_ have a (barely) functioning hospital in the capital but else where in the country you are pretty much on your own.

There is also _no_ way these places are safer than here - in most of these places gang r*pe, extortion and k*dnapping are par for the course.

We have issues (as does pretty much every country) but I would much rather live here than the vast majority of the world for basic health and safety reasons."

What a load of rubbish

Healthcare in the countries I go to - Middle East, Africa and Latin America - is all far far better than the UK. You never need to wait for treatment and get access to top consultants / specialists as a walk-in customer.

A&E May be lacking but these countries are not full of idiots that get pissed beat each other up and go to A&E every weekend, you generally don’t need much of an A&E function outside chavvy England , people look after their health much more and take more responsibility.

On crime I have colleagues in Lagos Nigeria refusing to come to London now because it isn’t safe , the crime rate and chances of being attacked in the uk cities or downtown urban areas is much higher than any country I go to. I feel very safe in Lagos, São Paulo, not so safe across the city here or in b south or east London

Organised crime is the uk is also totally out of control now in just about every town and city

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By *ouple1Couple  over a year ago

Preston

We can all see the super rich getting richer whilst the workers are seeing our pay packets shrink

We watch dodgy deals being done with our political leaders and I think it's fair to say that most of us have no faith in the current political system

Now I am very pleased to say that I have never voted Tory and never will do - but Labour on the other hand are pale blue and not a great deal between them

I feel like I am in a political wilderness with no real way out

On that basis I think my vote will be going to the Green party to give them a chance for a change, not that I know mutch about them - call it a protest vote if you like

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By *dy635guyMan  over a year ago

Lincoln

It's partly a capacity problem in the NHS exacerbated by bed blocking due to a lack of capacity in social care.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my opinion we ate no longer a 1st rate country. I e been to numerous third world countries and war torn countries (rebuilt)where they have better health care much better roads better public transport and generally safer and more picturesque places. Now I'm not saying all are like this but when you compare England to some we are now a dogs shit hole

Really? Every war torn country I have been to in Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia is nothing but a complete shithole. Most of those places _might_ have a (barely) functioning hospital in the capital but else where in the country you are pretty much on your own.

There is also _no_ way these places are safer than here - in most of these places gang r*pe, extortion and k*dnapping are par for the course.

We have issues (as does pretty much every country) but I would much rather live here than the vast majority of the world for basic health and safety reasons.

What a load of rubbish

Healthcare in the countries I go to - Middle East, Africa and Latin America - is all far far better than the UK. You never need to wait for treatment and get access to top consultants / specialists as a walk-in customer.

A&E May be lacking but these countries are not full of idiots that get pissed beat each other up and go to A&E every weekend, you generally don’t need much of an A&E function outside chavvy England , people look after their health much more and take more responsibility.

On crime I have colleagues in Lagos Nigeria refusing to come to London now because it isn’t safe , the crime rate and chances of being attacked in the uk cities or downtown urban areas is much higher than any country I go to. I feel very safe in Lagos, São Paulo, not so safe across the city here or in b south or east London

Organised crime is the uk is also totally out of control now in just about every town and city "

Cheers for being factfully honest!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my opinion we ate no longer a 1st rate country. I e been to numerous third world countries and war torn countries (rebuilt)where they have better health care much better roads better public transport and generally safer and more picturesque places. Now I'm not saying all are like this but when you compare England to some we are now a dogs shit hole"

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS  over a year ago

Stockport


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

"

Last year my father had a fall in his home and it took multiple 999 calls and 36 hours for an ambulance to be sent. Then another 10 hours waiting in the ambulance in the hospital car park because every bed was occupied.

All totally caused by 12 years of catastrophic tory policies that have systematically drained resources from everything that was once good in this country and directed the money into their own pockets and those of their billionaire masters. I only hope that there is a special place reserved in hell for those few that have taken so much from so many. In a pinch though I would settle for removing citizenship from them all, throwing them in the english channel, and telling them to swim to Rwanda.

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By *illen5Man  over a year ago

Bath

Are these 2 things connected?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I believe that we are witness to the biggest transfer of wealth from the masses to the rich in history so far .

700 million or more has disappeared, PPE, furlough etc.

Watch daily politics on the iplayer I think the date is 19/01/2023, its a real eye opener.

if you want to that is.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I actually do not think that there is anything wrong as such with this country but we have a two party system that does not give much choice.

The reason I am saying this is that I have met so many decent people over the years from all walks of life. People who will go out of their way to help somebody in need, people who are genuinely charitable as well. Then there is that wonderful sense of humour, that prevails in times of adversity to name but a couple of things.

I really do believe it is not the country or its people but an outdated, unfair system that makes it appear a bad place. "

At least you have 2 parties.

Up here in Scotland it's one party

SNP little hitlers

Wanting to BAN everything - smoking, alcohol, petrol/ diesel cars, distilleries can't even use peat for burning and distilling.

SNP are the only party to have Banned Music in bars, clubs and restaurants and all hospitality during covid.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A lot is wrong with country

Divided people

Mass illegal immigration

Financial turmoil

Major bout's of wokesim and political correctness

Corruption

Violence

Criminals

A dodgy police force either too soft or committing crimes themselves

Silence on grooming gangs (ongoing)

Lack of understanding of reality

Hypocrisy and lack of accountability on both side of the political spectrum

Drugs

Poverty

ILiteracy

Failures in education

And much more besides.

Although still better than some alternative nations

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By *adMerWoman  over a year ago

Sandwich


"At present everything is to be blamed on our government. Between them they have messed up everything from Brexit to inflation. And they have no idea how to fix it. In a famous line from dad's army we are all doomed "

Not just THIS government. None of these things happened overnight. It’s been years and years of mismanagement!!

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By *adMerWoman  over a year ago

Sandwich


"At present everything is to be blamed on our government. Between them they have messed up everything from Brexit to inflation. And they have no idea how to fix it. In a famous line from dad's army we are all doomed

Not just THIS government. None of these things happened overnight. It’s been years and years of mismanagement!!"

Not by just one party either. Politicians are for the most part self-serving whatever flavour of politics they espouse.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"At present everything is to be blamed on our government. Between them they have messed up everything from Brexit to inflation. And they have no idea how to fix it. In a famous line from dad's army we are all doomed

Not just THIS government. None of these things happened overnight. It’s been years and years of mismanagement!!"

All went down hill from Tony Blair the monster of Britains politics and should be in prison

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By *ohn KanakaMan  over a year ago

Not all that North of North London


"At present everything is to be blamed on our government. Between them they have messed up everything from Brexit to inflation. And they have no idea how to fix it. In a famous line from dad's army we are all doomed

Not just THIS government. None of these things happened overnight. It’s been years and years of mismanagement!!

All went down hill from Tony Blair the monster of Britains politics and should be in prison "

16 years on, most of which most have been tory rule, I'm not sure Blair (despite taking us in to an illegal and pointless war) can be blamed for the current issues?

Personally I'd suggest the instability of 5 different PMs (all of whom have resigned during their premiership except the current incumbent) in 6 years might be a bigger factor

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I wonder is anyone who voted to leave the European union regretting it now. Will anyone even admit to it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I wonder is anyone who voted to leave the European union regretting it now. Will anyone even admit to it. "

In or out of the EU means nothing to myself.

I haven't regretted the UK pulling out and I have no concerns.

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By *ora the explorerWoman  over a year ago

Paradise, Herts


"I wonder is anyone who voted to leave the European union regretting it now. Will anyone even admit to it. "

I can’t see how they can’t regret it!

Will they admit it? Course they won’t

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nothing is wrong with the country except the muppets who are meant to run it.

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By *TG3Man  over a year ago

Dorchester


"I wonder is anyone who voted to leave the European union regretting it now. Will anyone even admit to it.

In or out of the EU means nothing to myself.

I haven't regretted the UK pulling out and I have no concerns. "

My feelings to we shouldn't have entered it, we were already part of Europe (geographically) that was enough and we still are

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset


""Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope"

Trade out the word American for country of relevance and there you have your answer. "

The problem with politicians these days is that they don't get into politics for the good of the people, they do it for self serving reasons and to benefit businesses, donors and the elite.

They don't just come from random homes, random parents, random schools, universities and businesses.

They're groomed for politics from an early age, supported by those seeking an ability to shape policy from outside of government, funded by businesses with agendas and have their careers 'managed' by staff, script writers and lawyers.

It's pretty much impossible for the ordinary man on the street to enter politics. There's plenty of folk out there more capable, more astute, more principled and more honest that would excel in government. But the doors are closed to them.

Ask yourself why multi-millionaires seek office as an MP with and £85k salary that they earn in a week from outside investments and directorships at private companies.

It's not for the benefit of Joe Public is it...........

A

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By *usie pTV/TS  over a year ago

taunton

Gawd almighty where have some of you been, have you never heard the ditty Britains never never never will be ruled.

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By *htcMan  over a year ago

MK

Over population is the problem.

Lack of care all about money is the other problem.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nothing wrong with the Country...it's the people in it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Nothing wrong with the Country...it's the people in it. "

And more and more coming into it. We can't cope as it is.

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay

There is nothing wrong with this country, there can always be things that can be improved like the NHS and policing, but compared to most other nations I think we are pretty damn lucky.

And no......we are most certainly not full or overcrowded, in fact the UK workforce is around 1.2m workers short.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nothing wrong with the Country...it's the people in it.

And more and more coming into it. We can't cope as it is."

Bang On, every town, village and City right now are building hundreds if not thousands of homes, where are all the people coming from to fill these homes.

over a thousand being built in Perth, hundreds in Bridge of Earn, Hundreds in Auchterarder, Hundred in Stanley, Hundreds in Scone, Hundreds in Kinross & Milnathort, all surrounding villages in Perthshire are having massive expansion

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By *inky_couple2020Couple  over a year ago

North West


"Nothing wrong with the Country...it's the people in it.

And more and more coming into it. We can't cope as it is.

Bang On, every town, village and City right now are building hundreds if not thousands of homes, where are all the people coming from to fill these homes.

over a thousand being built in Perth, hundreds in Bridge of Earn, Hundreds in Auchterarder, Hundred in Stanley, Hundreds in Scone, Hundreds in Kinross & Milnathort, all surrounding villages in Perthshire are having massive expansion"

There's a lot of housebuilding here too. But the new estates (of private housing, much of it in the "luxury" category) are not filled with asylum seekers. Weird, eh?!

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By *eeman1Man  over a year ago

Liverpool

Aside from technology we do seem to be going backwards with everything else. But then again it’s what the green / environmentalists etc want is for us to go back to the old times. It’s a fashion craze

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nothing wrong with the Country...it's the people in it.

And more and more coming into it. We can't cope as it is.

Bang On, every town, village and City right now are building hundreds if not thousands of homes, where are all the people coming from to fill these homes.

over a thousand being built in Perth, hundreds in Bridge of Earn, Hundreds in Auchterarder, Hundred in Stanley, Hundreds in Scone, Hundreds in Kinross & Milnathort, all surrounding villages in Perthshire are having massive expansion

There's a lot of housebuilding here too. But the new estates (of private housing, much of it in the "luxury" category) are not filled with asylum seekers. Weird, eh?! "

I have started a new thread on this, I would appreciate your post, just numbers of homes you guess are being built around your area.

thank you in advance

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By *riar BelisseWoman  over a year ago

Delightful Bliss


"There is nothing wrong with this country, there can always be things that can be improved like the NHS and policing, but compared to most other nations I think we are pretty damn lucky.

And no......we are most certainly not full or overcrowded, in fact the UK workforce is around 1.2m workers short."

That's for law abiding tax payable positions though. There are many more people than that in this country working on the dark side.

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By *ornucopiaMan  over a year ago

Bexley

The majority of the population are being taken for mugs by politicians and entrepreneurs who are in a position to look after themselves in hard times.

It is really as simple as that.

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By *lik and PaulCouple  over a year ago

cahoots


"Other countries have Tesco too.

Other countries have better places to buy food "

So does this country

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nothing changes ,rectories in the 16th century had strong shutters on groundfloor windows to stop starving villages getting in, 10 percent of nothing is tough to bear, nowadays the rich just build a bigger wall round the countryclub

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

"

Every little helps.

The most helpful thing people could do in this country, is stop voting bloody tory.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive.

I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this.

Every little helps.

The most helpful thing people could do in this country, is stop voting bloody tory."

Would it really be much better if another party was running the show. I think politicians are all in it for themselves.

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By *usie pTV/TS  over a year ago

taunton

Best thing all the whingers can do is grow some balls and fook off to another country if they thing its so rosie.

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By *usie pTV/TS  over a year ago

taunton

k

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan  over a year ago

nearby


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm.

Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories.

"

Junior doctors are to challenge the government over their falling pay in real terms with a campaign which highlights that they are paid a lower hourly rate than some store workers are to get from April at the food retail chain Pret a Manger

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm.

Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories.

Junior doctors are to challenge the government over their falling pay in real terms with a campaign which highlights that they are paid a lower hourly rate than some store workers are to get from April at the food retail chain Pret a Manger"

I would love every single junior doctor to produce their Net wage slip and yearly P60.

Junior Doctors are paid well and they complain when they Max out their pension contributions

The number of doctors exceeding the pension annual allowance in 2021-22 has increased by almost 70 per cent compared to the previous tax year

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