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"Other countries have Tesco too." Other countries have better places to buy food | |||
"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. " Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories. | |||
"Was the woman okay? " I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone. | |||
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"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. " Well she has terrible neighbours | |||
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"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories. " I don't know anything about politics, but you are probably right. | |||
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"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene " Since heard she has a broken hip | |||
"Is this post secretly sponsored by Asda. Trying to besmirch poor tesco. " Nope | |||
"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene Since heard she has a broken hip " So their call not to move her was right…. Except of course she could have died from internal bleeding, hypothermia and shock while she was waiting …. | |||
"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene Since heard she has a broken hip " Fair chance she'll die. That's the harsh reality. Medically anything over an hour is considered a 'long lie', 10 hours is serious. She's possibly got pressure sores and is at high risk of hypothermia, pneumonia and rhabdomilitis. She'll definitely be dehydrated. Any of thise can prive fatal let alone all of them. They might decide she's too weak too operate and if they do her recovery will be impacted potentially fatally. Lots of elderly people die post op of fractured hips leaving someone on the floor for 10 hours massively increases the liklihood. A government that has destroyed the NHS to the extent there is not enough staff to respond to a call like this have blood on their hands. | |||
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"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene Since heard she has a broken hip Fair chance she'll die. That's the harsh reality. Medically anything over an hour is considered a 'long lie', 10 hours is serious. She's possibly got pressure sores and is at high risk of hypothermia, pneumonia and rhabdomilitis. She'll definitely be dehydrated. Any of thise can prive fatal let alone all of them. They might decide she's too weak too operate and if they do her recovery will be impacted potentially fatally. Lots of elderly people die post op of fractured hips leaving someone on the floor for 10 hours massively increases the liklihood. A government that has destroyed the NHS to the extent there is not enough staff to respond to a call like this have blood on their hands. " Wow....I hope not but whe. You out it like that...that's heartbreaking. | |||
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"So it’s the fault of the state / NHS / Ambulance that an old lady near where you live was left laying on the ground for 10 hours? " No. Tesco... it's because of Tesco | |||
"Its next to impossible to find Catherine wheels in the shops! " You can get those liquorice ones with the torpedo in the middle tho ....... lush | |||
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"I can not believe someone would not take the lady to hospital in there car ffs I would 100% be late to somewhere for that... Supermarkets are crap now but youngsters will not support small shops so we are all fucked with rubbish food " You'd lift someone with a broken hip into your car and drive them to hospital? As well intentioned as that is, there's a very good reason why people simply can't do that, namely the lady would be inexcruciating pain | |||
"I can not believe someone would not take the lady to hospital in there car ffs I would 100% be late to somewhere for that... Supermarkets are crap now but youngsters will not support small shops so we are all fucked with rubbish food " It can be very dangerous to move someone with a hip/femur fracture. Not to mention excruciatingly painful for the person. The advice from healthcare professionals is don't try to move someone who might have a pelvic, hip/femur or spinal fracture. It's not exactly safe moving someone with a smaller bone broken, especially if it's a complex or open fracture. We should have the right emergency healthcare in place. | |||
"I can not believe someone would not take the lady to hospital in there car ffs I would 100% be late to somewhere for that... Supermarkets are crap now but youngsters will not support small shops so we are all fucked with rubbish food You'd lift someone with a broken hip into your car and drive them to hospital? As well intentioned as that is, there's a very good reason why people simply can't do that, namely the lady would be inexcruciating pain " Well clearly I would assess the patient didn't think it would be that bad because of the wait. | |||
"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene Since heard she has a broken hip Fair chance she'll die. That's the harsh reality. Medically anything over an hour is considered a 'long lie', 10 hours is serious. She's possibly got pressure sores and is at high risk of hypothermia, pneumonia and rhabdomilitis. She'll definitely be dehydrated. Any of thise can prive fatal let alone all of them. They might decide she's too weak too operate and if they do her recovery will be impacted potentially fatally. Lots of elderly people die post op of fractured hips leaving someone on the floor for 10 hours massively increases the liklihood. A government that has destroyed the NHS to the extent there is not enough staff to respond to a call like this have blood on their hands. Wow....I hope not but whe. You out it like that...that's heartbreaking." It's brutal. But that is the reality and no one is sharing it. The death would require an inquest but you can almost guarantee that unless the family kick up a huge fuss the Coroner will ignore the delay and record the death as being due to post op complications not the delay. (Honourable mention to the Coroner for Norfolk has had the courage to write to NHS England with a prevention of future deaths report linked to ambulance delays, but that can be ignored and is also very much the exception) | |||
"I think this country started going down the pan once people started referring to the ground, the pavement or the street surface as 'the floor' (pronounced flaw-er)." What? | |||
"I think this country started going down the pan once people started referring to the ground, the pavement or the street surface as 'the floor' (pronounced flaw-er). What?" Even worse when nobody understands what I said! | |||
"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. " Very sad state of affairs - similar situation on my mums road in Dec. The lady had broken something and was lying on the pavement for hours. The neighbours covered her with coats and blankets, but it must still have been very uncomfortable. I hope 'your' lady has a positive outcome x | |||
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" I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. " I'm not sad about this | |||
"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene Since heard she has a broken hip Fair chance she'll die. That's the harsh reality. Medically anything over an hour is considered a 'long lie', 10 hours is serious. She's possibly got pressure sores and is at high risk of hypothermia, pneumonia and rhabdomilitis. She'll definitely be dehydrated. Any of thise can prive fatal let alone all of them. They might decide she's too weak too operate and if they do her recovery will be impacted potentially fatally. Lots of elderly people die post op of fractured hips leaving someone on the floor for 10 hours massively increases the liklihood. A government that has destroyed the NHS to the extent there is not enough staff to respond to a call like this have blood on their hands. Wow....I hope not but whe. You out it like that...that's heartbreaking. It's brutal. But that is the reality and no one is sharing it. The death would require an inquest but you can almost guarantee that unless the family kick up a huge fuss the Coroner will ignore the delay and record the death as being due to post op complications not the delay. (Honourable mention to the Coroner for Norfolk has had the courage to write to NHS England with a prevention of future deaths report linked to ambulance delays, but that can be ignored and is also very much the exception)" Gait play indeed to the coroner...I can imagine the kind of consequences that can be felt when going against the grain. It is indeed brutal and outrageous... that poor poor woman and her family. For surely they will all now pay the price. | |||
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"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories. " The OP lives in Wales. The NHS is run by Labour in Wales. | |||
"Its next to impossible to find Catherine wheels in the shops! You can get those liquorice ones with the torpedo in the middle tho ....... lush" I can’t find them anywhere. | |||
"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories. The OP lives in Wales. The NHS is run by Labour in Wales. " Sorry, i have no idea where 'Pretty City' is. While true that the NHS is 'ran by Labour' due to devolution, it is still funded by our Conservative government and as the issue is clearly chronic levels of underfunding across the NHS in England, Scotland and Wales I'd argue that the blame still lies with the Tory Party. | |||
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"As if she was left that long, outrageous! Surely some neighbours could have made a makeshift splint out of pillows and scarves at worst and done a team lift to get her inside and warm once it was ascertained no serious head or neck injuries were sustained...hypothermia is a bigger concern in this weather!" Sadly she would be dead from massive blood loss a lot quicker than from hypothermia if any breaks compromised an artery as she was moved by well meaning but not qualified people.. Whilst it's far too long to have to wait regardless of age or injury etc it sounds like she did get to hospital alive.. | |||
"As if she was left that long, outrageous! Surely some neighbours could have made a makeshift splint out of pillows and scarves at worst and done a team lift to get her inside and warm once it was ascertained no serious head or neck injuries were sustained...hypothermia is a bigger concern in this weather! Sadly she would be dead from massive blood loss a lot quicker than from hypothermia if any breaks compromised an artery as she was moved by well meaning but not qualified people.. Whilst it's far too long to have to wait regardless of age or injury etc it sounds like she did get to hospital alive.." That's a rare occurrence with hip fractures and I doubt she'd sit perfectly still in one position all day anyway so it's what I would look to do but then I am qualified so i understand why others might be reluctant | |||
"As if she was left that long, outrageous! Surely some neighbours could have made a makeshift splint out of pillows and scarves at worst and done a team lift to get her inside and warm once it was ascertained no serious head or neck injuries were sustained...hypothermia is a bigger concern in this weather! Sadly she would be dead from massive blood loss a lot quicker than from hypothermia if any breaks compromised an artery as she was moved by well meaning but not qualified people.. Whilst it's far too long to have to wait regardless of age or injury etc it sounds like she did get to hospital alive.. That's a rare occurrence with hip fractures and I doubt she'd sit perfectly still in one position all day anyway so it's what I would look to do but then I am qualified so i understand why others might be reluctant " Might not only be her hip though so until a professional has done a full initial survey I wouldn't move her if she's not in immediate risk of further injury, especially as she's elderly .. | |||
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"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. " Try your local Butcher/veg shop | |||
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"I find it appalling that this Government can find the money to continue to build Cameron's train set aka HS2 but cannot find the money to prevent the NHS from collapsing. " The money's there alright when they want to find it - but they only want to find it when it's a get rich quick scheme for them or their mates. | |||
"All comes down to politics, media manipulation and the easily led. I can't see that changing anytime soon." 100% the powers and media view is like docile domesticated animals! | |||
"Is this post secretly sponsored by Asda. Trying to besmirch poor tesco. " | |||
"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment." My boss at the time purchased a tvr car with his seiss grant. | |||
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"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment." The op is about paramedics and a Supermarket!! | |||
"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. " Easy answer, ambo, poloce and fire are understaffed under paid and badly equipped. Same for hospitals. As for companies like Tesco, only want to make fast easy profit and that’s it. | |||
"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment. The op is about paramedics and a Supermarket!! " Those darn paramedics and retail workers turning up all through the pandemic | |||
"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment. My boss at the time purchased a tvr car with his seiss grant." Sshhh, not supposed to mention that. | |||
"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment. My boss at the time purchased a tvr car with his seiss grant." Your boss has a poor choice of cars, I had a TVR a few years ago and it lived up to its name Trouble Very Regularly many times. | |||
"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment. The op is about paramedics and a Supermarket!! Those darn paramedics and retail workers turning up all through the pandemic " Unbelievable | |||
"I blame Boris for paying workers 80% of wages to stay home, they have not wanted to graft since, but fook me if you are waiting for Starmer to bring a recovery I think some are in for a dissapointment." I was one of those who got paid 80 percent for staying at home. It was the last thing I wanted to do and I actually lost my job for the first time in my life as a direct result but I understood why it had to happen. I also know many people who worked throughout lockdown and have changed jobs since because they couldn't take the relentless stress. | |||
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"The other week my neighbour fell down his stairs. We went to help, but an ambulance turned up about 10 minutes later. Another turned up a few minutes after that. HEMS was also activated, but was stood down en-route by the first crew. We live in England, where we have to pay for prescriptions and hospital parking. The OP lives in Wales, where the NHS is run by Labour. No doubt the poor woman will get free painkillers, and her relatives will get free parking when they visit her in hospital, but I'd rather have an ambulance turn up in good time to an accident. In these times when it's hard for everyone across the UK, maybe the Welsh government should re-think its priorities." You do know that there are huge delays with ambulances in England too? | |||
"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. " its the rise in the cost of power thats caused it i imagine | |||
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"The other week my neighbour fell down his stairs. We went to help, but an ambulance turned up about 10 minutes later. Another turned up a few minutes after that. HEMS was also activated, but was stood down en-route by the first crew. We live in England, where we have to pay for prescriptions and hospital parking. The OP lives in Wales, where the NHS is run by Labour. No doubt the poor woman will get free painkillers, and her relatives will get free parking when they visit her in hospital, but I'd rather have an ambulance turn up in good time to an accident. In these times when it's hard for everyone across the UK, maybe the Welsh government should re-think its priorities." The last time I visited a hospital in Wales I had to pay for parking | |||
"Was is a big Tesco or little Tesco ? " big one. | |||
"The other week my neighbour fell down his stairs. We went to help, but an ambulance turned up about 10 minutes later. Another turned up a few minutes after that. HEMS was also activated, but was stood down en-route by the first crew. We live in England, where we have to pay for prescriptions and hospital parking. The OP lives in Wales, where the NHS is run by Labour. No doubt the poor woman will get free painkillers, and her relatives will get free parking when they visit her in hospital, but I'd rather have an ambulance turn up in good time to an accident. In these times when it's hard for everyone across the UK, maybe the Welsh government should re-think its priorities. You do know that there are huge delays with ambulances in England too? " Yep my local A & E have declared critical incidents a few times recently. Ambulances are queuing up outside. | |||
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"Was the woman okay? I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone." The country would be in the same state no matter who was in charge. | |||
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"Was the woman okay? I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone. The country would be in the same state no matter who was in charge. " I dint think that's true. Truss cost us billions in a matter of days, Johnson, lied ahd partied throughout covid while the government spent billions on a useless track and trace system and in contracts to their mates fir non existent PPE. We are paying far more for our utilities than the rest of Europe while utilities companues record record profits, brexit was sold to is on lies and is an unmitigated disaster that has damaged the economy and brought no tangible benefits. The public sector is bareky finctioning after 12 years of austerity has crippled it, the police are at breaking pount, the NHS is collapsing around us... I could go on but I think my point is made, I'd argue, almost anyone else been in charge over the last 13 years would have been less disastrous! | |||
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"Was the woman okay? I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone. The country would be in the same state no matter who was in charge. I dint think that's true. Truss cost us billions in a matter of days, Johnson, lied ahd partied throughout covid while the government spent billions on a useless track and trace system and in contracts to their mates fir non existent PPE. We are paying far more for our utilities than the rest of Europe while utilities companues record record profits, brexit was sold to is on lies and is an unmitigated disaster that has damaged the economy and brought no tangible benefits. The public sector is bareky finctioning after 12 years of austerity has crippled it, the police are at breaking pount, the NHS is collapsing around us... I could go on but I think my point is made, I'd argue, almost anyone else been in charge over the last 13 years would have been less disastrous!" When you say ‘almost anyone else’ would you include Corbyn in that category? Or Dianne Abbott? Seriously? How about if Nick Clegg had done a deal with Milliband? Do you think a Lib/Lab coalition could have dug us out of the economic mire post banking collapse? Maybe your ‘anyone else’ would be Eddie Izzard and Stephen Fry? ‘Almost anyone else’!!! PSML | |||
"Slightly off topic here but part of the problem with the country is that utility companies, train and bus companies, in fact nearly every big organisation is that they are either foreign owned or venture capitalist owned. Because of that, any profits go overseas or to shareholders and there is little incentive to reinvest. Because of this many services that we are provided with or customers of are second rate and not good enough. The train operators spend more money servicing their debt than they do on maintenance, how scary is that? Theres a cost of living crisis partly brought about because we are so reliant on other countries providing our food and energy, people can't get by on what they have, the roads are full of potholes, everyone is on strike. I don't know who to blame but the Tories have been in power for over 10 years and things have just got worse and worse. " You know the real problem with this country (particularly since Brexit, but to a degree way before it) isn’t the complete utter shit leadership you have , it’s the even worse followship. Citizens of the UK are utterly clueless who they are or what they want anymore, so any idiot like bj and Hancock can become a politician now and even pm if they try hard enough and cheat enough Good luck sorting that one out | |||
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"Was the woman okay? I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone. The country would be in the same state no matter who was in charge. I dint think that's true. Truss cost us billions in a matter of days, Johnson, lied ahd partied throughout covid while the government spent billions on a useless track and trace system and in contracts to their mates fir non existent PPE. We are paying far more for our utilities than the rest of Europe while utilities companues record record profits, brexit was sold to is on lies and is an unmitigated disaster that has damaged the economy and brought no tangible benefits. The public sector is bareky finctioning after 12 years of austerity has crippled it, the police are at breaking pount, the NHS is collapsing around us... I could go on but I think my point is made, I'd argue, almost anyone else been in charge over the last 13 years would have been less disastrous! When you say ‘almost anyone else’ would you include Corbyn in that category? Or Dianne Abbott? Seriously? How about if Nick Clegg had done a deal with Milliband? Do you think a Lib/Lab coalition could have dug us out of the economic mire post banking collapse? Maybe your ‘anyone else’ would be Eddie Izzard and Stephen Fry? ‘Almost anyone else’!!! PSML" Yes I would include Corbyn in that category. He would have been a great leader for this country and actually cared about the welfare of all of us. If people actually did their own research instead of quoting bbc headlines then they would think that too. If he was actually as bad as people made out, why did the media come after him so hard? What was they scared of? A world of capitalism collapsing around them, that's what. | |||
"Was the woman okay? I don't know. I just think its ridiculous how things have gone. The country would be in the same state no matter who was in charge. I dint think that's true. Truss cost us billions in a matter of days, Johnson, lied ahd partied throughout covid while the government spent billions on a useless track and trace system and in contracts to their mates fir non existent PPE. We are paying far more for our utilities than the rest of Europe while utilities companues record record profits, brexit was sold to is on lies and is an unmitigated disaster that has damaged the economy and brought no tangible benefits. The public sector is bareky finctioning after 12 years of austerity has crippled it, the police are at breaking pount, the NHS is collapsing around us... I could go on but I think my point is made, I'd argue, almost anyone else been in charge over the last 13 years would have been less disastrous! When you say ‘almost anyone else’ would you include Corbyn in that category? Or Dianne Abbott? Seriously? How about if Nick Clegg had done a deal with Milliband? Do you think a Lib/Lab coalition could have dug us out of the economic mire post banking collapse? Maybe your ‘anyone else’ would be Eddie Izzard and Stephen Fry? ‘Almost anyone else’!!! PSML" I think when we have consecutively worse governments for the last 12 years and given the utterly disastrous situation we are in now, it's whatifism at it's worst to suggest others would have been worse. Would corbyn and Abbott have cost the country billions in a matter if days? Well never know but its unlikely isn't it? Has any other government won with a majority that Johnson had (which was enough to pretty much guarantee them at least the next GE, potentially the next 2 or 3) for 3 years later to be performing so badly 3 years later thst front benchers are quitting politics to save face and others are hunting for ever rarer safe seats? That is unprecedented, nit just in Britain but globally. The banking collapse was global yet how we reacted was again arguably the weakest (on other countries people went to prison, we've just reversed the cap on bonuses) and our economy has been slower to recover. So again its massive whstifism to suggest it may havevbeen worse, when nowhere else anywhere in the world responded worse. The inability to hold politicians respinsonsible for their failings is a huge part of the problem we find ourselves in. How many prime ministers have we had in the last year? And the last 12 years, and how many of them resigned? Non of this is normal, it's not happening anywhere else in the world, who else do you blame other than the party that have been in power fir 12 years and overseen this chaos | |||
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"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories. " | |||
"How much is the wage." There's no such thing as just an ambulance driver. But emergency care assistants, who work alongside paramedics and will drive while the more highly qualified paramedic attends to the patient, start on £21,730. | |||
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"I should of said that they said not to move her until an ambulance had arrived at the scene Since heard she has a broken hip Fair chance she'll die. That's the harsh reality. Medically anything over an hour is considered a 'long lie', 10 hours is serious. She's possibly got pressure sores and is at high risk of hypothermia, pneumonia and rhabdomilitis. She'll definitely be dehydrated. Any of thise can prive fatal let alone all of them. They might decide she's too weak too operate and if they do her recovery will be impacted potentially fatally. Lots of elderly people die post op of fractured hips leaving someone on the floor for 10 hours massively increases the liklihood. A government that has destroyed the NHS to the extent there is not enough staff to respond to a call like this have blood on their hands. " my nana had a fall in her bathroom and broke her hip. Just like you mentioned they said that operating would be too risky for her. Fortunately she's a tough old woman and still going. | |||
"Slightly off topic here but part of the problem with the country is that utility companies, train and bus companies, in fact nearly every big organisation is that they are either foreign owned or venture capitalist owned. Because of that, any profits go overseas or to shareholders and there is little incentive to reinvest. Because of this many services that we are provided with or customers of are second rate and not good enough. The train operators spend more money servicing their debt than they do on maintenance, how scary is that? Theres a cost of living crisis partly brought about because we are so reliant on other countries providing our food and energy, people can't get by on what they have, the roads are full of potholes, everyone is on strike. I don't know who to blame but the Tories have been in power for over 10 years and things have just got worse and worse. You know the real problem with this country (particularly since Brexit, but to a degree way before it) isn’t the complete utter shit leadership you have , it’s the even worse followship. Citizens of the UK are utterly clueless who they are or what they want anymore, so any idiot like bj and Hancock can become a politician now and even pm if they try hard enough and cheat enough Good luck sorting that one out " I don't think cheat would be the right word but they do know how to play the media into thinking that they are bumbling morons while preserving their own self interests. | |||
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"In my opinion we ate no longer a 1st rate country. I e been to numerous third world countries and war torn countries (rebuilt)where they have better health care much better roads better public transport and generally safer and more picturesque places. Now I'm not saying all are like this but when you compare England to some we are now a dogs shit hole" Really? Every war torn country I have been to in Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia is nothing but a complete shithole. Most of those places _might_ have a (barely) functioning hospital in the capital but else where in the country you are pretty much on your own. There is also _no_ way these places are safer than here - in most of these places gang r*pe, extortion and k*dnapping are par for the course. We have issues (as does pretty much every country) but I would much rather live here than the vast majority of the world for basic health and safety reasons. | |||
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"Country is fucked and it is getting fucked up more and more day by day by a combination of fuck ups. I could go on and on.. however I think the term fucked pretty much sums it up. " SNAFU | |||
"Slightly off topic here but part of the problem with the country is that utility companies, train and bus companies, in fact nearly every big organisation is that they are either foreign owned or venture capitalist owned. Because of that, any profits go overseas or to shareholders and there is little incentive to reinvest. Because of this many services that we are provided with or customers of are second rate and not good enough. The train operators spend more money servicing their debt than they do on maintenance, how scary is that? Theres a cost of living crisis partly brought about because we are so reliant on other countries providing our food and energy, people can't get by on what they have, the roads are full of potholes, everyone is on strike. I don't know who to blame but the Tories have been in power for over 10 years and things have just got worse and worse. You know the real problem with this country (particularly since Brexit, but to a degree way before it) isn’t the complete utter shit leadership you have , it’s the even worse followship. Citizens of the UK are utterly clueless who they are or what they want anymore, so any idiot like bj and Hancock can become a politician now and even pm if they try hard enough and cheat enough Good luck sorting that one out I don't think cheat would be the right word but they do know how to play the media into thinking that they are bumbling morons while preserving their own self interests. " By cheat I mean pretending they are public servants when it’s just a tactical move for growing those business. Hancock’s and many others stint as an MP is similar to a year backpacking - a bit wider experience, build your contacts, have a break and then get back to business a bit wiser and better connected | |||
"In my opinion we ate no longer a 1st rate country. I e been to numerous third world countries and war torn countries (rebuilt)where they have better health care much better roads better public transport and generally safer and more picturesque places. Now I'm not saying all are like this but when you compare England to some we are now a dogs shit hole Really? Every war torn country I have been to in Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia is nothing but a complete shithole. Most of those places _might_ have a (barely) functioning hospital in the capital but else where in the country you are pretty much on your own. There is also _no_ way these places are safer than here - in most of these places gang r*pe, extortion and k*dnapping are par for the course. We have issues (as does pretty much every country) but I would much rather live here than the vast majority of the world for basic health and safety reasons." What a load of rubbish Healthcare in the countries I go to - Middle East, Africa and Latin America - is all far far better than the UK. You never need to wait for treatment and get access to top consultants / specialists as a walk-in customer. A&E May be lacking but these countries are not full of idiots that get pissed beat each other up and go to A&E every weekend, you generally don’t need much of an A&E function outside chavvy England , people look after their health much more and take more responsibility. On crime I have colleagues in Lagos Nigeria refusing to come to London now because it isn’t safe , the crime rate and chances of being attacked in the uk cities or downtown urban areas is much higher than any country I go to. I feel very safe in Lagos, São Paulo, not so safe across the city here or in b south or east London Organised crime is the uk is also totally out of control now in just about every town and city | |||
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"In my opinion we ate no longer a 1st rate country. I e been to numerous third world countries and war torn countries (rebuilt)where they have better health care much better roads better public transport and generally safer and more picturesque places. Now I'm not saying all are like this but when you compare England to some we are now a dogs shit hole Really? Every war torn country I have been to in Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia is nothing but a complete shithole. Most of those places _might_ have a (barely) functioning hospital in the capital but else where in the country you are pretty much on your own. There is also _no_ way these places are safer than here - in most of these places gang r*pe, extortion and k*dnapping are par for the course. We have issues (as does pretty much every country) but I would much rather live here than the vast majority of the world for basic health and safety reasons. What a load of rubbish Healthcare in the countries I go to - Middle East, Africa and Latin America - is all far far better than the UK. You never need to wait for treatment and get access to top consultants / specialists as a walk-in customer. A&E May be lacking but these countries are not full of idiots that get pissed beat each other up and go to A&E every weekend, you generally don’t need much of an A&E function outside chavvy England , people look after their health much more and take more responsibility. On crime I have colleagues in Lagos Nigeria refusing to come to London now because it isn’t safe , the crime rate and chances of being attacked in the uk cities or downtown urban areas is much higher than any country I go to. I feel very safe in Lagos, São Paulo, not so safe across the city here or in b south or east London Organised crime is the uk is also totally out of control now in just about every town and city " Cheers for being factfully honest!! | |||
"In my opinion we ate no longer a 1st rate country. I e been to numerous third world countries and war torn countries (rebuilt)where they have better health care much better roads better public transport and generally safer and more picturesque places. Now I'm not saying all are like this but when you compare England to some we are now a dogs shit hole" | |||
"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. " Last year my father had a fall in his home and it took multiple 999 calls and 36 hours for an ambulance to be sent. Then another 10 hours waiting in the ambulance in the hospital car park because every bed was occupied. All totally caused by 12 years of catastrophic tory policies that have systematically drained resources from everything that was once good in this country and directed the money into their own pockets and those of their billionaire masters. I only hope that there is a special place reserved in hell for those few that have taken so much from so many. In a pinch though I would settle for removing citizenship from them all, throwing them in the english channel, and telling them to swim to Rwanda. | |||
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"I actually do not think that there is anything wrong as such with this country but we have a two party system that does not give much choice. The reason I am saying this is that I have met so many decent people over the years from all walks of life. People who will go out of their way to help somebody in need, people who are genuinely charitable as well. Then there is that wonderful sense of humour, that prevails in times of adversity to name but a couple of things. I really do believe it is not the country or its people but an outdated, unfair system that makes it appear a bad place. " At least you have 2 parties. Up here in Scotland it's one party SNP little hitlers Wanting to BAN everything - smoking, alcohol, petrol/ diesel cars, distilleries can't even use peat for burning and distilling. SNP are the only party to have Banned Music in bars, clubs and restaurants and all hospitality during covid. | |||
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"At present everything is to be blamed on our government. Between them they have messed up everything from Brexit to inflation. And they have no idea how to fix it. In a famous line from dad's army we are all doomed " Not just THIS government. None of these things happened overnight. It’s been years and years of mismanagement!! | |||
"At present everything is to be blamed on our government. Between them they have messed up everything from Brexit to inflation. And they have no idea how to fix it. In a famous line from dad's army we are all doomed Not just THIS government. None of these things happened overnight. It’s been years and years of mismanagement!!" Not by just one party either. Politicians are for the most part self-serving whatever flavour of politics they espouse. | |||
"At present everything is to be blamed on our government. Between them they have messed up everything from Brexit to inflation. And they have no idea how to fix it. In a famous line from dad's army we are all doomed Not just THIS government. None of these things happened overnight. It’s been years and years of mismanagement!!" All went down hill from Tony Blair the monster of Britains politics and should be in prison | |||
"At present everything is to be blamed on our government. Between them they have messed up everything from Brexit to inflation. And they have no idea how to fix it. In a famous line from dad's army we are all doomed Not just THIS government. None of these things happened overnight. It’s been years and years of mismanagement!! All went down hill from Tony Blair the monster of Britains politics and should be in prison " 16 years on, most of which most have been tory rule, I'm not sure Blair (despite taking us in to an illegal and pointless war) can be blamed for the current issues? Personally I'd suggest the instability of 5 different PMs (all of whom have resigned during their premiership except the current incumbent) in 6 years might be a bigger factor | |||
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"I wonder is anyone who voted to leave the European union regretting it now. Will anyone even admit to it. " In or out of the EU means nothing to myself. I haven't regretted the UK pulling out and I have no concerns. | |||
"I wonder is anyone who voted to leave the European union regretting it now. Will anyone even admit to it. " I can’t see how they can’t regret it! Will they admit it? Course they won’t | |||
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"I wonder is anyone who voted to leave the European union regretting it now. Will anyone even admit to it. In or out of the EU means nothing to myself. I haven't regretted the UK pulling out and I have no concerns. " My feelings to we shouldn't have entered it, we were already part of Europe (geographically) that was enough and we still are | |||
""Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope" Trade out the word American for country of relevance and there you have your answer. " The problem with politicians these days is that they don't get into politics for the good of the people, they do it for self serving reasons and to benefit businesses, donors and the elite. They don't just come from random homes, random parents, random schools, universities and businesses. They're groomed for politics from an early age, supported by those seeking an ability to shape policy from outside of government, funded by businesses with agendas and have their careers 'managed' by staff, script writers and lawyers. It's pretty much impossible for the ordinary man on the street to enter politics. There's plenty of folk out there more capable, more astute, more principled and more honest that would excel in government. But the doors are closed to them. Ask yourself why multi-millionaires seek office as an MP with and £85k salary that they earn in a week from outside investments and directorships at private companies. It's not for the benefit of Joe Public is it........... A | |||
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"Nothing wrong with the Country...it's the people in it. " And more and more coming into it. We can't cope as it is. | |||
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"Nothing wrong with the Country...it's the people in it. And more and more coming into it. We can't cope as it is." Bang On, every town, village and City right now are building hundreds if not thousands of homes, where are all the people coming from to fill these homes. over a thousand being built in Perth, hundreds in Bridge of Earn, Hundreds in Auchterarder, Hundred in Stanley, Hundreds in Scone, Hundreds in Kinross & Milnathort, all surrounding villages in Perthshire are having massive expansion | |||
"Nothing wrong with the Country...it's the people in it. And more and more coming into it. We can't cope as it is. Bang On, every town, village and City right now are building hundreds if not thousands of homes, where are all the people coming from to fill these homes. over a thousand being built in Perth, hundreds in Bridge of Earn, Hundreds in Auchterarder, Hundred in Stanley, Hundreds in Scone, Hundreds in Kinross & Milnathort, all surrounding villages in Perthshire are having massive expansion" There's a lot of housebuilding here too. But the new estates (of private housing, much of it in the "luxury" category) are not filled with asylum seekers. Weird, eh?! | |||
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"Nothing wrong with the Country...it's the people in it. And more and more coming into it. We can't cope as it is. Bang On, every town, village and City right now are building hundreds if not thousands of homes, where are all the people coming from to fill these homes. over a thousand being built in Perth, hundreds in Bridge of Earn, Hundreds in Auchterarder, Hundred in Stanley, Hundreds in Scone, Hundreds in Kinross & Milnathort, all surrounding villages in Perthshire are having massive expansion There's a lot of housebuilding here too. But the new estates (of private housing, much of it in the "luxury" category) are not filled with asylum seekers. Weird, eh?! " I have started a new thread on this, I would appreciate your post, just numbers of homes you guess are being built around your area. thank you in advance | |||
"There is nothing wrong with this country, there can always be things that can be improved like the NHS and policing, but compared to most other nations I think we are pretty damn lucky. And no......we are most certainly not full or overcrowded, in fact the UK workforce is around 1.2m workers short." That's for law abiding tax payable positions though. There are many more people than that in this country working on the dark side. | |||
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"Other countries have Tesco too. Other countries have better places to buy food " So does this country | |||
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"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. " Every little helps. The most helpful thing people could do in this country, is stop voting bloody tory. | |||
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"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. All the time she was outside on the ground waiting for them to arrive. I went to Tesco earlier and they have done away with the hot food counter and the fish stall forever ! Staff told me all tesco stores are doing this. Every little helps. The most helpful thing people could do in this country, is stop voting bloody tory." Would it really be much better if another party was running the show. I think politicians are all in it for themselves. | |||
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"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories. " Junior doctors are to challenge the government over their falling pay in real terms with a campaign which highlights that they are paid a lower hourly rate than some store workers are to get from April at the food retail chain Pret a Manger | |||
"An old lady where I live was found outside on the ground at 11am when the ambulance was called and they didn't turn up until 9pm. Well I'm blaming the first one firmly on the tories. Junior doctors are to challenge the government over their falling pay in real terms with a campaign which highlights that they are paid a lower hourly rate than some store workers are to get from April at the food retail chain Pret a Manger" I would love every single junior doctor to produce their Net wage slip and yearly P60. Junior Doctors are paid well and they complain when they Max out their pension contributions The number of doctors exceeding the pension annual allowance in 2021-22 has increased by almost 70 per cent compared to the previous tax year | |||