FabSwingers.com > Forums > The Lounge > Animals Attack
Animals Attack
Jump to: Newest in thread
 |
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Reports that dog attacks on humans are increasing in the UK but globally shark attacks are decreasing..
Tom is no fan of sharks so overfishing has some benefits..
Should society regulate dogs more closely
Dog attacks on the rise.
It's all over the news |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
Forum Mod Cheeseville, Somerset |
"Reports that dog attacks on humans are increasing in the UK but globally shark attacks are decreasing..
Tom is no fan of sharks so overfishing has some benefits..
Should society regulate dogs more closely
Dog attacks on the rise.
It's all over the news"
Source?
I'd suggest that not being a dick to a dog reduces the liklihood of an attack.
A |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Reports that dog attacks on humans are increasing in the UK but globally shark attacks are decreasing..
Tom is no fan of sharks so overfishing has some benefits..
Should society regulate dogs more closely
Dog attacks on the rise.
It's all over the news
Source?
I'd suggest that not being a dick to a dog reduces the liklihood of an attack.
A"
Please educate us on that one.. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Tom is old enough and should know better than to refer to himself in the third party."
He might have reached the trinity level? Me myself and I? Son father holy spirit??  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Reports that dog attacks on humans are increasing in the UK but globally shark attacks are decreasing..
Tom is no fan of sharks so overfishing has some benefits..
Should society regulate dogs more closely
Dog attacks on the rise.
It's all over the news
Source?
I'd suggest that not being a dick to a dog reduces the liklihood of an attack.
A"
Sounds like victim blaming here obi. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong "
I saw a little guy in our park being dragged along the grass by his Rottweiler who was chasing a poodle… it looked like a water skiing attempt gone wrong. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them "
The Rottweiler was on a lead, sadly the owner was on his frr et ont being dragged along…  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Tom is old enough and should know better than to refer to himself in the third party.
He might have reached the trinity level? Me myself and I? Son father holy spirit?? "
When Tom was born his mother thought he was the second coming of the Messiah ,
She had a photo of him and when she showed it to people they took one look and exclaimed JESUS CHRIST ! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Tom is old enough and should know better than to refer to himself in the third party.
He might have reached the trinity level? Me myself and I? Son father holy spirit??
When Tom was born his mother thought he was the second coming of the Messiah ,
She had a photo of him and when she showed it to people they took one look and exclaimed JESUS CHRIST ! "
 |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Tom is old enough and should know better than to refer to himself in the third party.
He might have reached the trinity level? Me myself and I? Son father holy spirit??
When Tom was born his mother thought he was the second coming of the Messiah ,
She had a photo of him and when she showed it to people they took one look and exclaimed JESUS CHRIST ! "
Tom's mother is dead so this comment is not appreciated |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them
Not true! Law states under control! X
Off a lead is not under control "
It is if they have good recall ! X |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Tom is old enough and should know better than to refer to himself in the third party.
He might have reached the trinity level? Me myself and I? Son father holy spirit??
When Tom was born his mother thought he was the second coming of the Messiah ,
She had a photo of him and when she showed it to people they took one look and exclaimed JESUS CHRIST !
Tom's mother is dead so this comment is not appreciated "
May she rest in peace Tom, no disrespect intended |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them
Not true! Law states under control! X
Off a lead is not under control
It is if they have good recall ! X"
So they bite a child and you recall them
Nonsense |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them
Not true! Law states under control! X
Off a lead is not under control
It is if they have good recall ! X
So they bite a child and you recall them
Nonsense"
Um nope! That's silly comment! X |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them
Not true! Law states under control! X
Off a lead is not under control
It is if they have good recall ! X
So they bite a child and you recall them
Nonsense
Um nope! That's silly comment! X"
It's reality.
All dogs should be muzzled in public |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them
Not true! Law states under control! X
Off a lead is not under control
It is if they have good recall ! X
So they bite a child and you recall them
Nonsense
Um nope! That's silly comment! X
It's reality.
All dogs should be muzzled in public"
Disagree! Maybe on lead in parks etc! Would be no need to muzzle then?? X |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
"
All dogs should walked on a short lead in public, and not on those god awful extension things, they are just dangerous. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Any animal can lash out.
Any living thing can have a bad day.
Humans are far worse than any other species in the planet.
Shouldn’t we be better controlled in the way we behave before going on about controling everything else on the planet and failing miserably as our murky past have more than often proved?
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Any animal can lash out.
Any living thing can have a bad day.
Humans are far worse than any other species in the planet.
Shouldn’t we be better controlled in the way we behave before going on about controling everything else on the planet and failing miserably as our murky past have more than often proved?
"
*Sagely nods* |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
All dogs should walked on a short lead in public, and not on those god awful extension things, they are just dangerous. "
This
It's just common sense. While the law says that dogs don't have to be kept on leads in public places however there are orders in place which means dogs have to be on leads in public areas such as children's play parks, sport fields, beaches and roads.
Highway code says thar dogs need to be leashed along places shared with cyclists and horse riders....
And yep, those extendable leads are dangerous |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I’ve owned many dogs throughout my life, all have been different. One rescue I had to muzzle outside, our bulldog was fine off lead yet my yorkie when I was younger always needed a lead.
I and my children have grown up with Rottweilers.
Owners should be aware of the individual dogs.
I’ve come across far more humans who need muzzling than I have dogs!
Mrs |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Tom would bring back the dog licence. Every dog owner has to apply for one and sit before a local panel of a Police Inspector, a Magistrate, and a local community leader.
The applicant needs to justify why they want a particular dog and breed and made to attend lessons
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I have a German Shepherd, he's pretty reactive so I take him out later on at night when it's quieter, always on a lead and away from other people....If I want to walk him off lead I usually pay for a private field. He can run and explore without fear of being approached....
His reactivity comes from being bitten by another dog who was off lead.....Owner had no leg to stand on because my dog was on lead minding his own....
Rehab and training is long and slow and, he is getting better and can play with familier dogs for a few minutes but I annihilate play so he gets the pleasure feelings and remembers for next time....I still take him out controlled because one move caused by an idiotic owners dog would set training back however many months and I will always refer to him as reactive because all it can take is one mistake |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them
Not true! Law states under control! X
Off a lead is not under control
It is if they have good recall ! X
So they bite a child and you recall them
Nonsense
Um nope! That's silly comment! X
It's reality.
All dogs should be muzzled in public"
Muzzles have different uses. Tom wouldn’t know because Tom doesn’t like dogs, so that makes Tom narrow minded
Greyhounds usually wear muzzles out in public because they have been trained as a racing dog to chase small animals (even stuffies) who then at the end of the chase get to mouth the stuffy, few GHs can tell the difference between a toy rabbit on a bit of string being towed by a winch in order to train them to run, and real rabbit/small animal including cats, and smaller dogs.
Dogs also wear muzzles to stop them eating shit off the ground when out on a walk, also to stop them nipping other dogs, getting grumpy in play and using their teeth.
Dog being off lead in public is seen as not being in full control. Even a dog with a good recall can choose to not come back, no dog has a 100% recall unless it’s been highly trained, such as police/army dogs, but then you never see them having a game of fetch in the public park do you?
If you can’t trust the dog to come back in a recall, don’t have it off lead. If the dog is not good with kids, don’t have it off lead. If the dog needs a good run in safety, take it to a Run Free secured area.
The dog is never to blame, it’s 100% the owner, yet the dog usually pays for the owners mistake with their life!
Incidentally there are areas which will have signs that a dog must be on a lead or under close control. If you/your dog cannot do close control, put a lead on. Close Control (for those who don’t know) means the dog is off lead but stuck beside you as if it were on a lead. It’s an advanced training technique
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Tom would bring back the dog licence. Every dog owner has to apply for one and sit before a local panel of a Police Inspector, a Magistrate, and a local community leader.
The applicant needs to justify why they want a particular dog and breed and made to attend lessons
"
What about licensing cows? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them "
Incorrect.
In public places, you must keep your dog 'under control'. Generally, this means close to you and ideally on a lead. If they're not on a lead, they need to be under control in another way, such as paying attention to your voice commands. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Tom would bring back the dog licence. Every dog owner has to apply for one and sit before a local panel of a Police Inspector, a Magistrate, and a local community leader.
The applicant needs to justify why they want a particular dog and breed and made to attend lessons
"
All dogs are obliged to b microchip which is same as having licence well better! X |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"The average Joe has no comprehension about dog control
In the wrong hands a dog can be a lethal weapon.. "
Your header is wrong - Animals Attack - but really you mean dogs. Click bait  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Tom would bring back the dog licence. Every dog owner has to apply for one and sit before a local panel of a Police Inspector, a Magistrate, and a local community leader.
The applicant needs to justify why they want a particular dog and breed and made to attend lessons
All dogs are obliged to b microchip which is same as having licence well better! X"
A microchip only identifies the dog. It does not stop them attacking |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
All dogs should walked on a short lead in public, and not on those god awful extension things, they are just dangerous. "
Both my dogs are walked on extendible leads, until they are let off at the park.
How on earth are those leads dangerous??? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
All dogs should walked on a short lead in public, and not on those god awful extension things, they are just dangerous.
Both my dogs are walked on extendible leads, until they are let off at the park.
How on earth are those leads dangerous???"
If the park is public they should not be off the lead surely |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Reports that dog attacks on humans are increasing in the UK but globally shark attacks are decreasing..
Tom is no fan of sharks so overfishing has some benefits..
Should society regulate dogs more closely
Dog attacks on the rise.
It's all over the news"
Animals are not not to blame,it’s the owners fault how he/she raises the dog.
Dog attacks happen in our neighbourhood as well,but it’s all down to what owners does it to calm down dog,or maybe dog felt in danger or treated to react like it.. there was a saying-dog is like a mirror to a owner. Look at person and you will be able to tell..
Mrs |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
So glad Tom isn’t in charge of anything he would just ban everything. There are far more people on people attacks in Uk than dogs on people attacks. There are no bad dogs just bad owners. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"The average Joe has no comprehension about dog control
In the wrong hands a dog can be a lethal weapon.. "
So can a car.
So can a motorbike
So can a powertool.
So can a kitchen knife.
There's only one person on this thread without any comprehension |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"So glad Tom isn’t in charge of anything he would just ban everything. There are far more people on people attacks in Uk than dogs on people attacks. There are no bad dogs just bad owners. "
Lots of bad dog owners...in a public place these buggers should be on a lead |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
All dogs should walked on a short lead in public, and not on those god awful extension things, they are just dangerous.
Both my dogs are walked on extendible leads, until they are let off at the park.
How on earth are those leads dangerous???
If the park is public they should not be off the lead surely "
That wasn't my question.
My question was how are the extendible leads dangerous??
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"So glad Tom isn’t in charge of anything he would just ban everything. There are far more people on people attacks in Uk than dogs on people attacks. There are no bad dogs just bad owners.
Lots of bad dog owners...in a public place these buggers should be on a lead "
Yes plenty of people I know should be on leads in public |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong "
I walked past a guy on a narrow pathway where i live i knew something was going on because he moved the dog to his otherside but as i went past the dog went for me it was all he could do to restrain it, he could tell i wasnt happy i said to him that dogs on the dangerous dogs list and it should have a muzzle on it and he said to me i shouldnt be scared lol  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
All dogs should walked on a short lead in public, and not on those god awful extension things, they are just dangerous.
Both my dogs are walked on extendible leads, until they are let off at the park.
How on earth are those leads dangerous???
If the park is public they should not be off the lead surely
That wasn't my question.
My question was how are the extendible leads dangerous??
"
Some Cyclists have found them dangerous |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
All dogs should walked on a short lead in public, and not on those god awful extension things, they are just dangerous.
Both my dogs are walked on extendible leads, until they are let off at the park.
How on earth are those leads dangerous???
If the park is public they should not be off the lead surely
That wasn't my question.
My question was how are the extendible leads dangerous??
Some Cyclists have found them dangerous "
Since when??? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago
Derbyshire village |
"Reports that dog attacks on humans are increasing in the UK but globally shark attacks are decreasing..
Tom is no fan of sharks so overfishing has some benefits..
Should society regulate dogs more closely
Dog attacks on the rise.
It's all over the news"
Dead easy to not get attacked by sharks... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
All dogs should walked on a short lead in public, and not on those god awful extension things, they are just dangerous.
Both my dogs are walked on extendible leads, until they are let off at the park.
How on earth are those leads dangerous???
If the park is public they should not be off the lead surely
That wasn't my question.
My question was how are the extendible leads dangerous??
Some Cyclists have found them dangerous
Since when??? "
Since they ride into the leads..
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong I walked past a guy on a narrow pathway where i live i knew something was going on because he moved the dog to his otherside but as i went past the dog went for me it was all he could do to restrain it, he could tell i wasnt happy i said to him that dogs on the dangerous dogs list and it should have a muzzle on it and he said to me i shouldnt be scared lol "
Just because dog breed is listed as dangerous,doesn’t mean dog in general is born mean.. grow up…
My dog is massive but she have sweet and loving personality,what people don’t see,but what they see it’s big dog, big dog-straight danger… 
Mrs |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Reports that dog attacks on humans are increasing in the UK but globally shark attacks are decreasing..
Tom is no fan of sharks so overfishing has some benefits..
Should society regulate dogs more closely
Dog attacks on the rise.
It's all over the news
Dead easy to not get attacked by sharks..."
If the sharks are on leads?? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"So glad Tom isn’t in charge of anything he would just ban everything. There are far more people on people attacks in Uk than dogs on people attacks. There are no bad dogs just bad owners.
Lots of bad dog owners...in a public place these buggers should be on a lead "
You want to put dog owners on leads? Bit kinky for you! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
All dogs should walked on a short lead in public, and not on those god awful extension things, they are just dangerous.
Both my dogs are walked on extendible leads, until they are let off at the park.
How on earth are those leads dangerous???
If the park is public they should not be off the lead surely
That wasn't my question.
My question was how are the extendible leads dangerous??
Some Cyclists have found them dangerous
Since when???
Since they ride into the leads..
"
And how do they do that if the dog is on the pavement??
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *inx.x3Woman
over a year ago
Bath |
"So glad Tom isn’t in charge of anything he would just ban everything. There are far more people on people attacks in Uk than dogs on people attacks. There are no bad dogs just bad owners.
Lots of bad dog owners...in a public place these buggers should be on a lead "
No they shouldn’t. My dog has good recall and stays close.
She’s allowed off lead as she’s under control. Tom can stay indoors if he doesn’t like it. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Tom would bring back the dog licence. Every dog owner has to apply for one and sit before a local panel of a Police Inspector, a Magistrate, and a local community leader.
The applicant needs to justify why they want a particular dog and breed and made to attend lessons
All dogs are obliged to b microchip which is same as having licence well better! X
A microchip only identifies the dog. It does not stop them attacking "
Neither does a licence??? X |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago
somerset |
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his Doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong I walked past a guy on a narrow pathway where i live i knew something was going on because he moved the dog to his otherside but as i went past the dog went for me it was all he could do to restrain it, he could tell i wasnt happy i said to him that dogs on the dangerous dogs list and it should have a muzzle on it and he said to me i shouldnt be scared lol "
Dobermans are not on the dangerous dogs list at all please get your infomation right as it silly quotes like that that give a bad name however the man should be warned if he has no control of his dog ....
people who let there dogs of the leads around other that cannot control them are breaking the law ... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Tom has been trained to defend himself against dogs and wild wolves..
Not everyone has this training..
Keep your dog on a lead and preferably a muzzle in a public place.
Id rather muzzle certain narrow-minded shit-stirring trolls."
Well said
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago
somerset |
dog licence should be compulsory and you should be able to prove you have the money to look after and train as well as have knowledge of that breed i belive no one under 25 should be aloud to own a dog and full insurance should be compulsory too .. leave the breeds alone and ban the dickhead owners
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
All dogs should walked on a short lead in public, and not on those god awful extension things, they are just dangerous.
Both my dogs are walked on extendible leads, until they are let off at the park.
How on earth are those leads dangerous???
If the park is public they should not be off the lead surely
That wasn't my question.
My question was how are the extendible leads dangerous??
"
And I answered albeit privately as it’s off topic a bit |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *oxy jWoman
over a year ago
somerset |
There is no blanket law requiring dogs to be kept on a lead in all public spaces. However, there are a series of orders that mean you have to leash your dog in certain places in your local area, for example children's play areas, sports pitches, roads, parks and beaches.
If your dog is not on a short lead on pavements and roads you could be issued with an £80 fixed penalty
both segmants of the net uk law and local orders |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"There is no blanket law requiring dogs to be kept on a lead in all public spaces. However, there are a series of orders that mean you have to leash your dog in certain places in your local area, for example children's play areas, sports pitches, roads, parks and beaches.
If your dog is not on a short lead on pavements and roads you could be issued with an £80 fixed penalty
both segmants of the net uk law and local orders"
Tom has challenged many a dog owner under the Common Law where it is an offence to be Outrageously Out of Control of a Canine on Common Land..
The buggers usually shit themselves when Tom tells the owners that they could be in front of the beak |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Reports that dog attacks on humans are increasing in the UK but globally shark attacks are decreasing..
Tom is no fan of sharks so overfishing has some benefits..
Should society regulate dogs more closely
Dog attacks on the rise.
It's all over the news"
I’d suggest regulating ownership, not all humans are clever enough to own a dog. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them "
Actually the law says dogs should not be dangerously out of control.
Local byelaws might make lead stipulations.
BTW. There are no bad dogs, just bad owners. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Tom should be careful quoting the law without fully knowing the law.
What are the stated cases setting precedent on what dangerously out if control means? You ought to swot up on them. It means more than not on a lead.
Trust me, I know my shit (which I always pick up in a poo bag and dispose of appropriately) |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them "
It really doesn't. If you could point us in the direction of this law it would be appreciated. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them
It really doesn't. If you could point us in the direction of this law it would be appreciated."
Some local byelaws might make these requirements, but the general law of the land makes it an offence to allow a dog to be dangerously out of control.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them
It really doesn't. If you could point us in the direction of this law it would be appreciated.
Some local byelaws might make these requirements, but the general law of the land makes it an offence to allow a dog to be dangerously out of control.
"
And just not being on a lead does not, in law, make a dog dangerously out of control |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong
I saw a little guy in our park being dragged along the grass by his Rottweiler who was chasing a poodle… it looked like a water skiing attempt gone wrong."
I've got that image in my.mind now and it's hilarious |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong "
Ive had german shepherds all my life. All trained well should i not be allowed to have them off lead... its usually the little "friendly" dogs that come bounding up off lead barking thats the problem and owners with their heads too busy in phones, not paying attention or not trainning their dogs reca thats the problem .. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Dogs should be under control. Most dog owners do this for the safety of their dogs & others.
Some people do stupid things however, like owning dogs & letting them be a danger, or talking in the third person. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"There is no blanket law requiring dogs to be kept on a lead in all public spaces. However, there are a series of orders that mean you have to leash your dog in certain places in your local area, for example children's play areas, sports pitches, roads, parks and beaches.
If your dog is not on a short lead on pavements and roads you could be issued with an £80 fixed penalty
both segmants of the net uk law and local orders
Tom has challenged many a dog owner under the Common Law where it is an offence to be Outrageously Out of Control of a Canine on Common Land..
The buggers usually shit themselves when Tom tells the owners that they could be in front of the beak"
I would belly laugh in your face!! X |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them "
Shame we can’t apply that law to these feral teenagers in the news all the time attacking each other |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
They say dogs behaviour is a result of the owner, that prob true to an extent but if I get attacked by a border collie because his owner has allowed him become aggressive I will have no prob fighting that dog off.
If the same owner had a pitbull that attacked me there would be a totally different outcome.
Most dog bites are attributed to common household pets like labradors and spaniels for example but 100% of fatal and life changing attacks are attributed to a narrow band of breeds. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
Most dog bites are attributed to common household pets like labradors and spaniels for example but 100% of fatal and life changing attacks are attributed to a narrow band of breeds."
2 Dachshunds involved in the highly publicised recent fatal one! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Tom was out walking one day in a park with his ex wife. A German Shepherd off a lead started growling barking and chasing us. Tom could not run faster than the dog but luckily he could run faster than his ex wife .. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
My 20 cents after having a few partners who were dog owners.
Its the owners who are the problem. imho
People are or some people are weary of dogs either by being attacked by them or know or read of dog attacks, or they fear for their children.
Its up to the owners if in the future there are other attacks on humans which could lead to a ban on ownership, or so many hoops to jump through dog ownership could be made more difficult to obtain.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Nobody is qualified to look at a dog and say it’s on the banned list. Not even the police which has been proven. Breed Specific Legislation uses a set of measurements so even a working stock Labrador could be potentially measured and fall into the dangerous dogs category.
My Staffie would sooner lick you to death or run the other way. gets walked off lead in the park but put on it if I see a dog we don’t know or had a bad interaction with previously.
She regularly walks with a ‘people’ reactive beagle who wears a ‘nervous’ collar and halti all down to arseholes on electric bikes nearly running him over and idiots not controlling their kids when it comes to behaviour around dogs.
There’s Dobbies, Rotties, GSDs and XL bullies who are all pals with my dog and are just big dopes but the dangerous ones are the wee dogs who seem to have serious aggression issues.
Some people and their kids should be fitted with muzzles and put on leads in public. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
"Nobody is qualified to look at a dog and say it’s on the banned list. Not even the police which has been proven. Breed Specific Legislation uses a set of measurements so even a working stock Labrador could be potentially measured and fall into the dangerous dogs category.
My Staffie would sooner lick you to death or run the other way. gets walked off lead in the park but put on it if I see a dog we don’t know or had a bad interaction with previously.
She regularly walks with a ‘people’ reactive beagle who wears a ‘nervous’ collar and halti all down to arseholes on electric bikes nearly running him over and idiots not controlling their kids when it comes to behaviour around dogs.
There’s Dobbies, Rotties, GSDs and XL bullies who are all pals with my dog and are just big dopes but the dangerous ones are the wee dogs who seem to have serious aggression issues.
Some people and their kids should be fitted with muzzles and put on leads in public."
There may be something in this. Small dogs being overly aggressive could link in to small man syndrome. Men trying to compensate for their lack of height |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong
Doberman are lovely dogs! Any dog with good recall is ok of lead! X"
Do you know of one that can recite the entire table of elements ? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong
Doberman are lovely dogs! Any dog with good recall is ok of lead! X
Do you know of one that can recite the entire table of elements ?"
Mine get a bit stuck with the noble gasses |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong
Ive had german shepherds all my life. All trained well should i not be allowed to have them off lead... its usually the little "friendly" dogs that come bounding up off lead barking thats the problem and owners with their heads too busy in phones, not paying attention or not trainning their dogs reca thats the problem .."
yes but i suppose the point is how does the unsuspecting public know which ones which, we don't and dog owners are oblivious they love their animal  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Tom once watched a police dog display at a local fete. The lady policeman said she had great recall until the Alstion saw a rabbit and chased it. The red faced police lady had to run after her own dog. Who was recalling who? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Most of the dog problems are down to owners not training them properly or have the correct thought process to own a dog. "
Yes. But the American pro-gun lobby will, similarly, say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Most of the dog problems are down to owners not training them properly or have the correct thought process to own a dog.
Yes. But the American pro-gun lobby will, similarly, say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”. "
Should we say the same about cars perhaps? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his Doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong I walked past a guy on a narrow pathway where i live i knew something was going on because he moved the dog to his otherside but as i went past the dog went for me it was all he could do to restrain it, he could tell i wasnt happy i said to him that dogs on the dangerous dogs list and it should have a muzzle on it and he said to me i shouldnt be scared lol
Dobermans are not on the dangerous dogs list at all please get your infomation right as it silly quotes like that that give a bad name however the man should be warned if he has no control of his dog ....
people who let there dogs of the leads around other that cannot control them are breaking the law ... "
Yes but this man was aggressive with it for example who am i to walk past HIS dog sort of attitude and I've known a doberman to eat through a fence they may not be on the dangerous dog list but in the wrong hands they are dangerous, i didn't actually mention dobermans incidentally |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Most of the dog problems are down to owners not training them properly or have the correct thought process to own a dog.
Yes. But the American pro-gun lobby will, similarly, say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”.
Should we say the same about cars perhaps?"
No because British drivers are already treated like criminals by the police |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Most of the dog problems are down to owners not training them properly or have the correct thought process to own a dog.
Yes. But the American pro-gun lobby will, similarly, say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”.
Should we say the same about cars perhaps?No because British drivers are already treated like criminals by the police "
Interesting .... |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Most of the dog problems are down to owners not training them properly or have the correct thought process to own a dog.
Yes. But the American pro-gun lobby will, similarly, say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”.
Should we say the same about cars perhaps?"
Yes |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Most of the dog problems are down to owners not training them properly or have the correct thought process to own a dog.
Yes. But the American pro-gun lobby will, similarly, say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”.
Should we say the same about cars perhaps?No because British drivers are already treated like criminals by the police
Interesting ...."
true |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Most of the dog problems are down to owners not training them properly or have the correct thought process to own a dog.
Yes. But the American pro-gun lobby will, similarly, say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”.
Should we say the same about cars perhaps?No because British drivers are already treated like criminals by the police
Interesting ....true "
In your vast experience of British policing.
OK.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong
Doberman are lovely dogs! Any dog with good recall is ok of lead! X
Do you know of one that can recite the entire table of elements ?"
Yes my great grandog ! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong
Doberman are lovely dogs! Any dog with good recall is ok of lead! X
Do you know of one that can recite the entire table of elements ?
Yes my great grandog ! "
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Most of the dog problems are down to owners not training them properly or have the correct thought process to own a dog.
Yes. But the American pro-gun lobby will, similarly, say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”.
Should we say the same about cars perhaps?No because British drivers are already treated like criminals by the police
Interesting ....true
In your vast experience of British policing.
OK.
"
You're not are you PC Jennie? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Most of the dog problems are down to owners not training them properly or have the correct thought process to own a dog.
Yes. But the American pro-gun lobby will, similarly, say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people”.
Should we say the same about cars perhaps?No because British drivers are already treated like criminals by the police
Interesting ....true
In your vast experience of British policing.
OK.
You're not are you PC Jennie? "
Was for 25 years.
You were saying? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong
Ive had german shepherds all my life. All trained well should i not be allowed to have them off lead... its usually the little "friendly" dogs that come bounding up off lead barking thats the problem and owners with their heads too busy in phones, not paying attention or not trainning their dogs reca thats the problem ..yes but i suppose the point is how does the unsuspecting public know which ones which, we don't and dog owners are oblivious they love their animal "
Because they are trained to heal and have good recall unlike most of the wee yappers that coming bounding up that should also be. I dont allow my do to go up to people unless invited to. So to me the fault lies in un trained owners |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong
Ive had german shepherds all my life. All trained well should i not be allowed to have them off lead... its usually the little "friendly" dogs that come bounding up off lead barking thats the problem and owners with their heads too busy in phones, not paying attention or not trainning their dogs reca thats the problem ..yes but i suppose the point is how does the unsuspecting public know which ones which, we don't and dog owners are oblivious they love their animal
Because they are trained to heal and have good recall unlike most of the wee yappers that coming bounding up that should also be. I dont allow my do to go up to people unless invited to. So to me the fault lies in un trained owners"
lots of people don't train their dogs to heal especially in this area theirs an inordinate amount of pooch owners in this part of the country its almost a requirement |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In my local park some idiotic dog owner let's his doberman off the lead...what could possibly go wrong
Ive had german shepherds all my life. All trained well should i not be allowed to have them off lead... its usually the little "friendly" dogs that come bounding up off lead barking thats the problem and owners with their heads too busy in phones, not paying attention or not trainning their dogs reca thats the problem ..yes but i suppose the point is how does the unsuspecting public know which ones which, we don't and dog owners are oblivious they love their animal
Because they are trained to heal and have good recall unlike most of the wee yappers that coming bounding up that should also be. I dont allow my do to go up to people unless invited to. So to me the fault lies in un trained ownerslots of people don't train their dogs to heal especially in this area theirs an inordinate amount of pooch owners in this part of the country its almost a requirement "
I think if someone thinks they are responsible to own a dog they should have to do trainning with it. No matter what breed. It should be a must! Mine have all had their good citiziens awards. I do that to protect my dogs. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ssex_tom OP Man
over a year ago
Chelmsford |
Tom wonders if when they build new housing estates that a developer builds one only for dog free families. Nobody on the estate allowed to own a dog and a law that forbids future owners from owning them. A byelaw to forbid outsiders walking dogs there. It would be a dog shit free zone effectivly.
Tom wonders what they would call this development.
Houndsfree Estate perhaps |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Tom wonders if when they build new housing estates that a developer builds one only for dog free families. Nobody on the estate allowed to own a dog and a law that forbids future owners from owning them. A byelaw to forbid outsiders walking dogs there. It would be a dog shit free zone effectivly.
Tom wonders what they would call this development.
Houndsfree Estate perhaps "
Unethical |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Tom wonders if when they build new housing estates that a developer builds one only for dog free families. Nobody on the estate allowed to own a dog and a law that forbids future owners from owning them. A byelaw to forbid outsiders walking dogs there. It would be a dog shit free zone effectivly.
Tom wonders what they would call this development.
Houndsfree Estate perhaps
Unethical "
I wouldn't live there but not sure it unethical. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *avexxMan
over a year ago
cheshire |
dog attacks you didnt hear of them much years ago,, breeding as gone haywire not going to mention the breed but they have fighting instinct,, plus maybe the main point bad bad owners no ability to train dogs never been socialised,, |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them "
Some human should be on a lead too. How many people get attacked by dogs compared to other humans..?
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *avexxMan
over a year ago
cheshire |
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them
Some human should be on a lead too. How many people get attacked by dogs compared to other humans..?
"
,, i certainly dont disagree with you,, |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
Attack dogs should not existThe army uses them SAS branch use the Belgian malinois visious dogs trained to climb trees and can get over 20' fences "
I have a Belgian Malinois and a Dutch Shepherd, I also spend every day training them. Amazing dogs but not pets or for the faint hearted! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them
It really doesn't. If you could point us in the direction of this law it would be appreciated.
Some local byelaws might make these requirements, but the general law of the land makes it an offence to allow a dog to be dangerously out of control.
"
Are you a dog walker or work in the capacity of dogs? Just curious |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"Attack dogs should always be on a short lead
Attack dogs should not existThe army uses them SAS branch use the Belgian malinois visious dogs trained to climb trees and can get over 20' fences
I have a Belgian Malinois and a Dutch Shepherd, I also spend every day training them. Amazing dogs but not pets or for the faint hearted! "
Agree that BM are definitely not for the faint of hearts or indeed novice owners. However they are highly intelligent & can learn ver fast. Dutch Shepherds are gorgeous dogs |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"
Most dog bites are attributed to common household pets like labradors and spaniels for example but 100% of fatal and life changing attacks are attributed to a narrow band of breeds.
2 Dachshunds involved in the highly publicised recent fatal one!"
Think you will find it was the big Japanese dog that ripped that poor girls throat out! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *etcplCouple
over a year ago
Gapping Fanny |
"Reports that dog attacks on humans are increasing in the UK but globally shark attacks are decreasing..
Tom is no fan of sharks so overfishing has some benefits..
Should society regulate dogs more closely
Dog attacks on the rise.
It's all over the news"
Can we not just train Sharks to operate mech suits so they can take out the dogs? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"In a public place the law says that every dog should be on a lead...
Inconsiderate owners flout the law .. shame on them
It really doesn't. If you could point us in the direction of this law it would be appreciated.
Some local byelaws might make these requirements, but the general law of the land makes it an offence to allow a dog to be dangerously out of control.
Are you a dog walker or work in the capacity of dogs? Just curious "
No but was employed in a capacity where I needed to know legal stuff like that |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"There's no such thing as a bad dog just bad owners."
Sorry. I don’t agree with that.
There is good and bad in all of nature.
Some more aggressive than others.
But yes. The way a dog is treated and trained is incredibly important.
However. It only takes one moment to change any animals behaviour.
Be it fear, pain or any other medium that causes any outburst contrary to its usual behaviour.
I still can’t believe we are debating this when you look at the behaviour of humans as a whole.
Who are we to judge and impose our will and control on any other member of any species on the planet…. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Don't start me on dog and attacks on livestock.. we have had to shoot a few over recent years .. bad owners and vicious killers. I've reported many belligerent abusive dog walkers unfortunately. Licencing probably won't stop a lot of it .. but heavy fines will. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"There's no such thing as a bad dog just bad owners.
Sorry. I don’t agree with that.
There is good and bad in all of nature.
Some more aggressive than others.
But yes. The way a dog is treated and trained is incredibly important.
However. It only takes one moment to change any animals behaviour.
Be it fear, pain or any other medium that causes any outburst contrary to its usual behaviour.
I still can’t believe we are debating this when you look at the behaviour of humans as a whole.
Who are we to judge and impose our will and control on any other member of any species on the planet…."
Agree with this 100% x |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
Most dog bites are attributed to common household pets like labradors and spaniels for example but 100% of fatal and life changing attacks are attributed to a narrow band of breeds.
2 Dachshunds involved in the highly publicised recent fatal one!
Think you will find it was the big Japanese dog that ripped that poor girls throat out!"
If you read the sentence properly you will see there’s nothing about any Dachshund giving the fatal blow. It simply says there were 2 dachshunds involved in the in the highly publicised recent fatal one. It doesn’t say anything about them ripping anyones throat out.
In any case who in their right mind will walk that many dogs together, such a diverse amount of dogs & all tied to her bloody (no pun intended) belt. If she had them on proper leads and she let go of them she would have had a chance to get away from them/get them back under control, she wouldn’t have tripped over them, or got the leads wrapped around her legs. Im sorry to say but it was an accident waiting to happen |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"
Most dog bites are attributed to common household pets like labradors and spaniels for example but 100% of fatal and life changing attacks are attributed to a narrow band of breeds.
2 Dachshunds involved in the highly publicised recent fatal one!
Think you will find it was the big Japanese dog that ripped that poor girls throat out!"
I’ve had a look in various sources for a list of the breeds that she was walking, the only breeds given were Dachshund & Leonburger - both of which originate in Germany. So where did the “Japanese” dog info come from? Also her throat wasn’t ripped out, she died from multiple bites in the neck, which one was a bite in the jugular artery
If there’s one thing I hate, it’s people who sprout shit they don’t know anything about |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"So the most evil dogs are German ?"
The dog responsible for the most bites on people in the UK is the Jack Russel terrier. Followed by the border Collie.. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"So the most evil dogs are German ?
The dog responsible for the most bites on people in the UK is the Jack Russel terrier. Followed by the border Collie.."
Actually it’s not, it’s Dachshunds which are most likely to bite you. Border Collie? They don’t bite  . Labs will bite before a BC will |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"So the most evil dogs are German ?
The dog responsible for the most bites on people in the UK is the Jack Russel terrier. Followed by the border Collie..
Actually it’s not, it’s Dachshunds which are most likely to bite you. Border Collie? They don’t bite . Labs will bite before a BC will"
https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/family-and-parenting/dogs-that-might-bite-here-are-the-10-breeds-of-adorable-dog-who-are-most-likely-to-bite-nip-and-snap-including-the-loving-border-collie-3770323 |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
